[ROVERNET - UK] Clutch Hydraulics - 2000
Eric Russell
p6rovers at yahoo.com
Mon Jan 9 04:20:02 GMT 2006
Steve,
Ruth at All British Cars is the person to ask about
bleed screws. I don't have a package to which I could
refer.
Ruth = <allbritishcars at shaw.ca>
Awww....... fluid in the hose.
Once upon a time, I tried replacing my fluid with
silicone fluid (major snip of full details and tale of
woe).
I knew the servo(s) had leaked past the seal as I
drove up a steep hill on the way to work. I had
reduced power and "white" smoke was pouring out the
exhaust. I presume regular fluid would not give white
smoke but some other visual indication that
glycol/whatever was being mixed with fuel and air in
the carbs.
I totally replaced all seals, bled the sytem, and
reinstalled regular brake fluid.
You can:
1. Rebuild the servos yourself
2. Have them rebuilt locally
3. Have Ruth rebuild them
Question: Do you want the air control valve kit as
well with the shiny new nylon bits? I've ordered two.
Do you want a plain-Jane rebuild and hope that the
serve cylinder doesn't have to be resleeved?
Anyway, all is possible.
Eric
--- Steven Dibdin <sdibdin at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Good news- The readjustment and hanging slave
> cylinder bleed trick worked a
> treat. I can now change gear sweet as a nut.
>
> Bad news- I now have no brakes! I tried bleeding the
> brakes as the pedal had
> become soft after Christmas.
>
> I think the rear servo has finally died. When I got
> the car this October I
> knew that the callipers and master cylinder had been
> professionally rebuilt.
> But the servos hadn't been touched. I also knew that
> only the rear servo was
> still connected to a vacuum source. So after I bled
> the rear callipers I
> noticed that I wasn't getting any real pressure at
> the pedal. Took off the
> vacuum line to the rear servo found what looks like
> brake fluid in the hose.
>
> Eric, do you know off hand what thread/type self
> bleeding nipples I need for
> the (Girling) brakes? I know my local factor has a
> range but don't know
> which ones I'll need.
>
> Oh well, I wanted to get back under cars.... careful
> what you wish for!
>
> Cheers everybody,
>
> Steven D
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Smith" <Paul.Smith at auroraenergy.com.au>
> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 5:55 PM
> Subject: RE: [ROVERNET - UK] Clutch Hydraulics -
> 2000
>
>
> > Speaking of which, I went through exactly that
> process on Saturday.
> > Got under car to realign exhaust after fitting
> towbar. When I grabbed the
> > right wheel, it turned slightly... which it
> shouldn't with handbrake on.
> > Oh no, the caliper mount was loose. So that
> started 3 hours of battling
> > the
> > stupid large nut on the front of the mounting
> point. Ended up pulling out
> > the handbrake cam so I could get to it, and
> relocating the handbrake
> > tappet
> > via rebuilding caliper (which I can now do very
> quickly). Interestingly I
> > lost the tappet in the process of removal, used a
> spare.
> > Then the bleed.
> >
> > Exhaust not touched, I'd had enough, and it was
> too hot.
> >
> > PVS
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vern Klukas [mailto:vern at inkspotco.com]
> > Sent: Monday, 9 January 2006 6:38 am
> > To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> > Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Clutch Hydraulics -
> 2000
> >
> >
> > Yes, it has long been my practice to detach the
> > slave from the bellhousing and allow it to hang
> > when bleeding, so the bleed screw points up. I've
> > never had the luxury of self-bleeding screws, but
> > I have contemplated them many times, usually when
> > I have my hand stuck up the diff of a P6 opening
> > the rear caliper bleed screw with my cut down
> > 7/16 ring wrench ;-).
> >
> > Yours
> > Vern
> >
> >
> >
> >>Steven,
> >>Ruth may still have some self-bleeding
> bleed-screws
> >>which I have on all my hydraulics.
> >>
> >>In a fit of frustration with the slave cylinder
> one
> >>time, I unbolted the slave cylinder with nylon
> line
> >>attached, laid it on the garage floor, used the
> >>self-bleeder, and I removed all the air by pumping
> the
> >>clutch pedal. Sometimes desperate times call for
> >>desperate measures.
> >>
> >>I have another uncoventional tip for front brakes
> that
> >>a good friend, Art Baker, showed me.
> >>
> >>
> >>BTW, keep asking we're here to help if we can.
> >>
> >>Eric
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>--- Steven Dibdin <sdibdin at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ian,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for the offer. I'm going to try
> readjusting
> >>> and bleeding the system
> >>> today. If there it's still happening after,
> I'll
> >>> give you a yell.
> >>>
> >>> Many thanks,
> >>> Steven D
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Alice and Ian Potts" <ianalice at shaw.ca>
> >>> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 9:42 PM
> >>> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Clutch Hydraulics -
> 2000
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > `One suggestion before you begin any
> adjustment,
> >>> would be to jack up the
> >>> > front of the car, open the driver's door
> wide, get
> >>> knee pads if you can't
> >>> > get down on your knees without, head down and
> >>> under the open door.....It
> >>> > could act as a guillotine if you don't
> support the
> >>> front end properly!),
> >>> > and push down on the clutch pedal while
> watching
> >>> the throw-out arm at the
> >>> > slave cylinder. If there is any "creep"
> while
> >>> holding down the pedal, the
> >>> > master could be at fault.
> >>> > If little motion is observed at all, fluid is
> >>> passing by the pistons in
> >>> > either or both
> >>> > cylinders. In addition, the adjustments you
> >>> mention must be made.
> >>> > Cheers, Ian
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
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