[ROVERNET - UK] Raising the Rover

Tue Aug 17 12:14:00 BST 2004

You do know you can buy variable rate springs from Ray Weekleys in the 
UK for about 50.00 pounds per pair?
I realise the exchange rate isn't brilliant and there will be freight to 
pay on top, but even so, it sounds like a much cheaper option.
I've fitted them to every P6 I've owned and although I can't speak 
scientifically about them, I have always been pleased with the results.

Ray Weekleys number is +44 1205 87080 from outside the UK.

The previous owner of my car was a keen tower. He'd made some spring 
seats which raised the rear by about 1.5 inch. They fitted in the spring 
pan on the lower arm. If I remember corrcectly they were turned from a 
solid lump of steel and weighed at least as much as the springs.

They are lurking in the garage somewhere if someone wants a picture but 
basically they look like this:

|_________|
   |     |

Rob

Fritz Rauschenberg wrote:
> Tom
> Keep us posted on the "spring thing", I may want to follow that same course on my '69
> TC.
> Fritz Rauschenberg
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> Tom Trafton wrote:
> 
> 
>>Paul
>>
>>Thanks for the advice.  BTW I forgot to mention that the lead to King Spring
>>Works was provided by "Dave of South Oz", a fellow Rovernetter.   I'll ask
>>King Spring what the characteristics of their front springs are, to see if a
>>proper balance could be maintained.
>>
>>Tom
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Paul Smith" <Paul.Smith at auroraenergy.com.au>
>>To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
>>Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 5:05 PM
>>Subject: RE: [ROVERNET - UK] Raising the Rover
>>
>>
>>>I reckon they would make it oversteer, unless you change the front rate
>>>similarly.
>>>I put standard 3500 springs in the rear of the TC and it oversteered,
>>>handling was fixed when I put the 3500 front springs in (170lb/in vs
>>>150lb/in).
>>>Rover did understand handling balance, and that is the biggest difference
>>>between a Honda and a Rover when they shared models.  Rover reworked the
>>>suspension.
>>>
>>>PVS
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Tom Trafton [mailto:v8rover at earthlink.net]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, 17 August 2004 9:57 am
>>>To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
>>>Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Raising the Rover
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi Paul
>>>
>>>Thought I would pass on this link to you which you may find of interest
>>>http://www.kingsprings.com/Kings%20Master%20Catalogue%20041103.pdf
>>>
>>>It is for King Spring Works down on your continent (Ashmore City,
>>>Queensland, know where that is?).  Anyway, they sell rear springs for the
>>
>>P6
>>
>>>(one size fits all, according to them) which have a very high spring rate
>>
>>of
>>
>>>330 lb/inch, 10% higher than the heavy duty 3500 springs listed.  I am
>>>wondering if these may be too stiff.  What is your opinion on this?
>>>
>>>BTW they don't list any of the spring parameters on their web site but I
>>
>>did
>>
>>>ask and got the following info:  free lenght = 335 mm,  wire dia = 16 mm,
>>
>>ID
>>
>>>= 110 mm    I checked their claim of  k=330 lb/in and got 336 lb/in,
>>
>>making
>>
>>>some assumptions about the number of active coils and the compressed
>>
>>height.
>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Paul Smith" <Paul.Smith at auroraenergy.com.au>
>>>To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
>>>Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 6:50 PM
>>>Subject: RE: [ROVERNET - UK] Raising the Rover
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>3500s had at least two grades btw; never seen a Heavy Duty set but they
>>
>>do
>>
>>>>exist.
>>>>I also haven't seen any sagged 2000 springs, probably since 2000s didn't
>>>
>>>get
>>>
>>>>used for towing much.
>>>>3500 springs are shorter so the ride height is the same if you just swap
>>>>them.
>>>>I run 195/75 tyres on the rear of the SC, 185/70 on the front and that
>>>>raises the rear a fair bit.
>>>>Do the front springs too to retain roll balance (which affects oversteer
>>>
>>>big
>>>
>>>>time), but I think the roll bars are identical.
>>>>
>>>>PVS
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Tom Trafton [mailto:v8rover at earthlink.net]
>>>>Sent: Friday, 13 August 2004 11:39 am
>>>>To: RoverNet Mailing List
>>>>Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Raising the Rover
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Has anyone tried to raise the rear end of a P6 to compensate for sagging
>>>>springs?  I would like to get the ride height up a bit;  the manual says
>>>>that shims up to 3/8 inch can be used but I want to go as high as 1 inch
>>>>(2.54 cm for those of you out there in civilized countries using a
>>
>>decent
>>
>>>>system of measurement).  Also per Paul Smith's suggestion,  I want to
>>>>replace the springs with those from a P6B to get the ride a bit stiffer.
>>>
>>>I
>>>
>>>>am thinking that the higher spring rate of the P6B rear springs will
>>
>>keep
>>
>>>>the car higher but I don't know how much higher since I don't know the
>>>>spring rate for the 2000 TC springs.  The manual gives no stiffness
>>>>information, just free length and color code.  Anyone know the spring
>>
>>rate
>>
>>>>for these springs?  (260 lb/in for the 3500 springs)  Anyone tried to
>>
>>shim
>>
>>>>beyond the recommended max value?   All help gratefully accepted:-)
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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