[ROVERNET - UK] Raising the Rover

Tue Aug 17 11:22:50 BST 2004

Tom
Keep us posted on the "spring thing", I may want to follow that same course on my '69
TC.
Fritz Rauschenberg
Atlanta, GA

Tom Trafton wrote:

> Paul
>
> Thanks for the advice.  BTW I forgot to mention that the lead to King Spring
> Works was provided by "Dave of South Oz", a fellow Rovernetter.   I'll ask
> King Spring what the characteristics of their front springs are, to see if a
> proper balance could be maintained.
>
> Tom
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Smith" <Paul.Smith at auroraenergy.com.au>
> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 5:05 PM
> Subject: RE: [ROVERNET - UK] Raising the Rover
>
> > I reckon they would make it oversteer, unless you change the front rate
> > similarly.
> > I put standard 3500 springs in the rear of the TC and it oversteered,
> > handling was fixed when I put the 3500 front springs in (170lb/in vs
> > 150lb/in).
> > Rover did understand handling balance, and that is the biggest difference
> > between a Honda and a Rover when they shared models.  Rover reworked the
> > suspension.
> >
> > PVS
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tom Trafton [mailto:v8rover at earthlink.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 17 August 2004 9:57 am
> > To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> > Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Raising the Rover
> >
> >
> > Hi Paul
> >
> > Thought I would pass on this link to you which you may find of interest
> > http://www.kingsprings.com/Kings%20Master%20Catalogue%20041103.pdf
> >
> > It is for King Spring Works down on your continent (Ashmore City,
> > Queensland, know where that is?).  Anyway, they sell rear springs for the
> P6
> > (one size fits all, according to them) which have a very high spring rate
> of
> > 330 lb/inch, 10% higher than the heavy duty 3500 springs listed.  I am
> > wondering if these may be too stiff.  What is your opinion on this?
> >
> > BTW they don't list any of the spring parameters on their web site but I
> did
> > ask and got the following info:  free lenght = 335 mm,  wire dia = 16 mm,
> ID
> > = 110 mm    I checked their claim of  k=330 lb/in and got 336 lb/in,
> making
> > some assumptions about the number of active coils and the compressed
> height.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul Smith" <Paul.Smith at auroraenergy.com.au>
> > To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 6:50 PM
> > Subject: RE: [ROVERNET - UK] Raising the Rover
> >
> >
> > > 3500s had at least two grades btw; never seen a Heavy Duty set but they
> do
> > > exist.
> > > I also haven't seen any sagged 2000 springs, probably since 2000s didn't
> > get
> > > used for towing much.
> > > 3500 springs are shorter so the ride height is the same if you just swap
> > > them.
> > > I run 195/75 tyres on the rear of the SC, 185/70 on the front and that
> > > raises the rear a fair bit.
> > > Do the front springs too to retain roll balance (which affects oversteer
> > big
> > > time), but I think the roll bars are identical.
> > >
> > > PVS
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tom Trafton [mailto:v8rover at earthlink.net]
> > > Sent: Friday, 13 August 2004 11:39 am
> > > To: RoverNet Mailing List
> > > Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Raising the Rover
> > >
> > >
> > > Has anyone tried to raise the rear end of a P6 to compensate for sagging
> > > springs?  I would like to get the ride height up a bit;  the manual says
> > > that shims up to 3/8 inch can be used but I want to go as high as 1 inch
> > > (2.54 cm for those of you out there in civilized countries using a
> decent
> > > system of measurement).  Also per Paul Smith's suggestion,  I want to
> > > replace the springs with those from a P6B to get the ride a bit stiffer.
> > I
> > > am thinking that the higher spring rate of the P6B rear springs will
> keep
> > > the car higher but I don't know how much higher since I don't know the
> > > spring rate for the 2000 TC springs.  The manual gives no stiffness
> > > information, just free length and color code.  Anyone know the spring
> rate
> > > for these springs?  (260 lb/in for the 3500 springs)  Anyone tried to
> shim
> > > beyond the recommended max value?   All help gratefully accepted:-)
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> > >
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