[ROVERNET - UK] P6 rear screen seal replacement
peter king
peter at king-co.com
Thu May 15 21:29:13 BST 2008
Hi Jan, etc.
The no-sealant approach was the winner! I lubricated the seal and the
seal and screen slid in (relatively) easily. I used hand pressure to
work the screen and seal upward, then worked the jacks up in small
steps to take up the slack, rather than to press the seal upwards, as
I could not tell how much pressure the jacks were exerting on the
screen.
Will let you know how it handles the first water test. The corners of
the new seal are less form fitting than the original, and a small gap
opens up against the glass on one corner. I'm going to try to work
the back of the seal to minimize it, but may have to add sealant to
keep it tight.
Thanks for all the advice,
Peter
On May 14, 2008, at 8:47 AM, <jan.tillberg at sqc.se>
<jan.tillberg at sqc.se> wrote:
> Hi all out there! I wrote a couple of words, but it doesn't seem to
> have been sent away, so I try again.
>
> I use white spirit to clean and soften the rubber seal and make it
> flexible enough to slide in the channel/let the screen in. It's
> important to notice whether it is a laminated or hardened screen-
> they have different thicknesses and probably different rubber
> sealings. I use grease or oil to make the parts slide in properly.
> I don't use any sealant compound. It's hard to adjust the jacking
> points and the trim to raise the screen, the bolts for the jacking
> points are prone to lift and thus separating the screen from the
> lower inner sealing. The retainer in the lower middle I think
> shouldn't be used to force the screen towards the lower inner
> sealing, because that would induce tensions in the screen. The
> screen should ideally "fall in" to it's position. That's why I use
> lubricants to reduce any forces while assembling.
>
> Cheers
>
> Jan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dirk Burrowes [mailto:dirk at vy-tek.com]
> Sent: den 14 maj 2008 13:59
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Rovernet Digest, Vol 69, Issue 10
>
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> If you really want a task try installing a P5 windshield and have
> it seal
> and have the chrome trim fit and don't break window.
>
> The rear seal on the P6 I have found to be fairly easy to put in. I
> don't
> use any sealer but you can put a small amount around the edge of
> the window
> it self or at the bottom of the seal on the inside. I have always
> removed
> the rear deck when putting in or removing the window I know some
> have tried
> to install or remove without removing it I just don't know how. I
> have found
> that when the jacking points are lowered all the way down you can
> slowly
> raise these while keeping the seal in the frame. If the seal starts
> to push
> out you can use you palm to gently push or bump it in. You may as
> you get
> closer to the top need to lift the outer seal edge up with a thin
> shim to
> allow it to seat around the top and sides.
>
> I find the difficult part to align the rear deck seal to the
> curvature of
> the window. The ends of the seal are hard to match to the window
> corners. I
> have found the after market seals for this panel to not be very
> good. In the
> end I refurbished a used one in good order.
>
> Hope this works out I am looking forward to se your handy work at
> the end of
> this month at ROVEAMERICA 08
>
> Dirk
>
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> 1. P6 rear screen seal replacement (peter king)
> 2. R: P6 rear screen seal replacement (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.it)
> 3. Re: R: P6 rear screen seal replacement (jan.tillberg at sqc.se)
> 4. Re: P6 rear screen seal replacement (Netspace)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 22:31:45 -0400
> From: peter king <peter at king-co.com>
> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] P6 rear screen seal replacement
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
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> Hi all.
>
> Can anyone shed some light on the best procedure to install a new rear
> screen seal? I made a complete mess out of the job tonight, as the
> seal
> would not slide into the channel once the windshield was bedded in
> adhesive
> in it. I tried working the seal into the channel away from the
> glass, but
> that didn't work either. Then of course the adhesive started to set
> and that
> was that. A most frustrating effort.
> Tomorrow I'll try to clean the remaining adhesive off the window
> and seal
> and give it another try. That is, if I get some good advice!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 09:38:28 +0200
> From: <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.it>
> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] R: P6 rear screen seal replacement
> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
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>
> I'm also interested.
> When I repainted the car, the rear screen was removed and then
> reinstalled.
> Now, in the left corner, when I wash the car or when it rains
> strongly water
> comes in.
>
> I thenk the work will have to be done again.
>
> Regards,
> Gianluca.
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: peter king [mailto:peter at king-co.com]
> Inviato: mercoled? 14 maggio 2008 4.32
> A: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> Oggetto: [ROVERNET - UK] P6 rear screen seal replacement
>
> Hi all.
>
> Can anyone shed some light on the best procedure to install a new rear
> screen seal? I made a complete mess out of the job tonight, as the
> seal
> would not slide into the channel once the windshield was bedded in
> adhesive
> in it. I tried working the seal into the channel away from the
> glass, but
> that didn't work either. Then of course the adhesive started to set
> and that
> was that. A most frustrating effort.
> Tomorrow I'll try to clean the remaining adhesive off the window
> and seal
> and give it another try. That is, if I get some good advice!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 10:19:13 +0200
> From: <jan.tillberg at sqc.se>
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] R: P6 rear screen seal replacement
> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
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> Hi there!
>
> It can be tricky to get it tight. I clean the rubber with white
> spirit to
> get the rubber soft so it can form after the screen and channel.
> There are
> different types of rubber for different screens (i e laminated or
> hardened
> with different thicknesses). I dont believe in using seal compounds
> -use
> some non hardening and "greasy" compound instead. To install the
> shield, put
> the rubber in the channel first - then the screen.
>
> Jan
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.it [mailto:gianluca.ruotolo at enel.it]
> Sent: den 14 maj 2008 09:38
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] R: P6 rear screen seal replacement
>
>
> I'm also interested.
> When I repainted the car, the rear screen was removed and then
> reinstalled.
> Now, in the left corner, when I wash the car or when it rains
> strongly water
> comes in.
>
> I thenk the work will have to be done again.
>
> Regards,
> Gianluca.
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: peter king [mailto:peter at king-co.com]
> Inviato: mercoled? 14 maggio 2008 4.32
> A: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> Oggetto: [ROVERNET - UK] P6 rear screen seal replacement
>
> Hi all.
>
> Can anyone shed some light on the best procedure to install a new rear
> screen seal? I made a complete mess out of the job tonight, as the
> seal
> would not slide into the channel once the windshield was bedded in
> adhesive
> in it. I tried working the seal into the channel away from the
> glass, but
> that didn't work either. Then of course the adhesive started to set
> and that
> was that. A most frustrating effort.
> Tomorrow I'll try to clean the remaining adhesive off the window
> and seal
> and give it another try. That is, if I get some good advice!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 19:41:36 +1000
> From: "Netspace" <vmitps at netspace.net.au>
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] P6 rear screen seal replacement
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> Put the seal in the frame (with sealer) then slide the glass in to
> it (more
> sealer too).
>
> PVS
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "peter king" <peter at king-co.com>
> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:31 PM
> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] P6 rear screen seal replacement
>
>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> Can anyone shed some light on the best procedure to install a new
>> rear screen seal? I made a complete mess out of the job tonight, as
>> the seal would not slide into the channel once the windshield was
>> bedded in adhesive in it. I tried working the seal into the channel
>> away from the glass, but that didn't work either. Then of course the
>> adhesive started to set and that was that. A most frustrating effort.
>> Tomorrow I'll try to clean the remaining adhesive off the window and
>> seal and give it another try. That is, if I get some good advice!
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>>
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