[ROVERNET - UK] Explaining things

Paul Smith Paul.Smith at auroraenergy.com.au
Wed Mar 15 21:02:24 GMT 2006


1.  I can't fit any more in.
2.  I don't have a wife.
Thus, no problem.

PVS

-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com
[mailto:rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com]On Behalf Of Dirk Burrowes
Sent: Wednesday, 15 March 2006 9:58 pm
To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Explaining things


I guess explaining things on the Rovernet is a lot like explaining to your
wife why you want to buy another Rover. You have to keep doing it over and
over again.

-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com
[mailto:rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com] On Behalf Of
rovernet-request at lyris.ccdata.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 5:30 AM
To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
Subject: rovernet Digest, Vol 40, Issue 26

Send rovernet mailing list submissions to
	rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com

To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
	http://mailman.nipltd.com/mailman/listinfo/rovernet
or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
	rovernet-request at lyris.ccdata.com

You can reach the person managing the list at
	rovernet-owner at lyris.ccdata.com

When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
than "Re: Contents of rovernet digest..."


[ROVERNET-UK]

Today's Topics:

   1. Re:  TC2000, 3500s for sale in Texas (Glen WIlson)
   2. RE:  TC2000, 3500s for sale in Texas (Glen WIlson)
   3.  Re: rovernet Digest, Vol 40, Issue 24 (TheOrganDoctor at aol.com)
   4. Re:  TC2000, 3500s for sale in Texas (Peter Huttemeier)
   5. Re:  Re: rovernet Digest, Vol 40, Issue 24 (Brooks)
   6. Re:  TC2000, 3500s for sale in Texas (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
   7. Re:  Re: rovernet Digest, Vol 40, Issue 24 (Glen WIlson)
   8. Re:  TC2000, 3500s for sale in Texas (Glen WIlson)
   9. Re:  TC2000, 3500s for sale in Texas (Glen WIlson)
  10. Re:  TC2000, 3500s for sale in Texas (Pjemail at aol.com)


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Message: 1
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:37:21 -0500
From: Glen WIlson <glenwilson at cavtel.net>
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] TC2000, 3500s for sale in Texas
To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
Message-ID: <1142379441.5998.15.camel at ubuntu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 23:48 +0100, RoverP6 at gmx.de wrote:
> 
> DonB4t worry, be happy  :-)
> 
> Rudiger
> www.RoverP6.info

And hope that Rudiger never sets you straight...

;-)

Glen




------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:41:03 -0500
From: Glen WIlson <glenwilson at cavtel.net>
Subject: RE: [ROVERNET - UK] TC2000, 3500s for sale in Texas
To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
Message-ID: <1142379663.5998.17.camel at ubuntu>
Content-Type: text/plain

YIKES.

Smile when you say that, partner.

;-)

On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 23:33 +0000, steve bridge wrote:
> I just got my voice recognition software Dolan the goalie in go 18 I just 
> got my voice recognition software going. Now I add that to the next the
next 
> not makes without valve found not the next makes mix.  call the fire 
> department, message board fire. I've never been able vendors send the 
> difference  between of peace 6 be 56 be six be peace 6 (I never have
gotten 
> the difference between a P6B, P6, etc.)
> thank you for being my victims. I don't know of this is faster or not, but

> it is more fun. I hope that  IT starts working better!!!
> 
> >From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> >To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> >Subject: RE: [ROVERNET - UK] TC2000, 3500s for sale in Texas
> >Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:52:30 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >Ray,
> >I don't think the email came out the way it was
> >intended.  I have been guilty of sending of email
> >meaning one thing and the receiver inferring something
> >else.  A face to face discussion conveys body
> >language, intention, and allows instant feedback. Damn
> >email.....
> >
> >
> >Eric
> >
> >
> >--- Ray <raywilkins at optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > > Well that put me in my place, didn't it!
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com
> > > [mailto:rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com] On Behalf
> > > Of Pjemail at aol.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 14 March 2006 11:09 PM
> > > To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> > > Subject: RE: [ROVERNET - UK] TC2000, 3500s for sale
> > > in Texas
> > >
> > > I thought the misconception that all 3500S models
> > > had manual transmission
> > > would by now have been dispelled on the Rovernet.
> > > The V8 version of the P6
> > > was introduced to North America as the 3500S, and
> > > all of these had automatic
> > > transmissions. After exports to N. America ceased
> > > the 3500S manual was
> > > introduced in late 1971 to the rest of the world.
> > >
> > > Pierre Janusz
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > rovernet mailing list
> > > rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> > > To unsubscribe, go to this web page, look near the
> > > bottom and follow
> > > instructions:
> > > http://mailman.nipltd.com/mailman/listinfo/rovernet
> > > Back-up list and photos at:
> > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.2/280 -
> > > Release Date: 13/03/2006
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > rovernet mailing list
> > > rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> > > To unsubscribe, go to this web page, look near the
> > > bottom and follow instructions:
> > > http://mailman.nipltd.com/mailman/listinfo/rovernet
> > > Back-up list and photos at:
> > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> > >
> >
> >
> >Webmaster & Magazine Editor:
> >The Rover Car Club of Canada -  www.roverclub.ca
> >
> >__________________________________________________
> >Do You Yahoo!?
> >Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> >http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >rovernet mailing list
> >rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> >To unsubscribe, go to this web page, look near the bottom and follow 
> >instructions:
> >http://mailman.nipltd.com/mailman/listinfo/rovernet
> >Back-up list and photos at:
> >http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> rovernet mailing list
> rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> To unsubscribe, go to this web page, look near the bottom and follow
instructions:
> http://mailman.nipltd.com/mailman/listinfo/rovernet
> Back-up list and photos at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/




------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:34:27 EST
From: TheOrganDoctor at aol.com
Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Re: rovernet Digest, Vol 40, Issue 24
To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
Message-ID: <82.3822a803.3148bb13 at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

In a message dated 3/14/2006 1:12:00 PM Eastern  Standard Time, 
rovernet-request at lyris.ccdata.com writes:

There must have  been something in the 1968 law regarding headlamps,
though. I think this  affected cars like the Jaguar XKE and the little
Fiat 850 Spider, among other  cars. It may have been a minimum height
requirement, but it also got rid of  the clear plastic fairings that the
XKE had (as well as the early Ferrari  Daytona and the Citroens,
including the SM). It's my impression that  sealed-beam headlamps were
required prior to 1968, but they certainly were  required after that,
which accounts for many sleek European having big  bulging eyes in the
U.S. export versions (including the SD1).

I don't  think the Federal regulations concerning bumper height came into
effect until  the 1975 model year when the rubber-bumpered MGs graced our
shores. I think  1974-1/2 MGs might also have had them.

These are my foggy recollections,  anyway...

Glen
In the mid 60's when I wanted to register my 1953  Jaguar XK120 in 
Connecticut (US), I had to get a special variance to keep the  non sealed
beam "tripod" 
Lucas headlamps which were "original  equipment"

Dick West  




------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:43:09 +1100
From: Peter Huttemeier <peterhut at melbpc.org.au>
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] TC2000, 3500s for sale in Texas
To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
Message-ID: <khve1250gto2t1q26m3pe0natfh9bkveu0 at 4ax.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:33:44 -0500, you wrote:


>Pierre actually stopped by at my home in PA once. A nicer gentleman
>you'd never meet. As you might expect, certain subjects are revisited
>repeatedly over the course of time, and some of us have been reading
>this list for over ten years, so it seems like it's been covered before.
>
>But he DID put you in your place, didn't he!  ;-)

A bit unnecessarily in my opinion.  While he may be an expert on
Rovers in US, i am sure he has little knowledge of the range of Rover
models and each one's individual release specs and options here in
Australia. Likewise Ray has little idea of what may have been released
in the US. That is one of the great points of this list, it is
international in perspective and the little minutiae that us Rover
Nuts like can be explained.

If it means explaining something that may have already been done
before, so what!


Cheers,

Peter H



------------------------------

Message: 5
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:21:03 -0400
From: "Brooks" <restore at nbnet.nb.ca>
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Re: rovernet Digest, Vol 40, Issue 24
To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
Message-ID: <004801c647df$7da089f0$0100a8c0 at DENNIS>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

"got rid of  the clear plastic fairings that the
XKE had "

 I think it was because there was too much glare from the angled lens...

Regards

 Dennis
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <TheOrganDoctor at aol.com>
To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:34 PM
Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Re: rovernet Digest, Vol 40, Issue 24


> In a message dated 3/14/2006 1:12:00 PM Eastern  Standard Time,
> rovernet-request at lyris.ccdata.com writes:
>
> There must have  been something in the 1968 law regarding headlamps,
> though. I think this  affected cars like the Jaguar XKE and the little
> Fiat 850 Spider, among other  cars. It may have been a minimum height
> requirement, but it also got rid of  the clear plastic fairings that the
> XKE had (as well as the early Ferrari  Daytona and the Citroens,
> including the SM). It's my impression that  sealed-beam headlamps were
> required prior to 1968, but they certainly were  required after that,
> which accounts for many sleek European having big  bulging eyes in the
> U.S. export versions (including the SD1).
>
> I don't  think the Federal regulations concerning bumper height came into
> effect until  the 1975 model year when the rubber-bumpered MGs graced our
> shores. I think  1974-1/2 MGs might also have had them.
>
> These are my foggy recollections,  anyway...
>
> Glen
> In the mid 60's when I wanted to register my 1953  Jaguar XK120 in
> Connecticut (US), I had to get a special variance to keep the  non sealed 
> beam "tripod"
> Lucas headlamps which were "original  equipment"
>
> Dick West
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> rovernet mailing list
> rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> To unsubscribe, go to this web page, look near the bottom and follow 
> instructions:
> http://mailman.nipltd.com/mailman/listinfo/rovernet
> Back-up list and photos at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> 





------------------------------

Message: 6
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:46:06 +0100
From: <RoverP6 at gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] TC2000, 3500s for sale in Texas
To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
Message-ID: <005f01c647fc$24f192a0$6502a8c0 at p6>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"


???

Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info




-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: "Glen WIlson" <glenwilson at cavtel.net>
An: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Mdrz 2006 00:37
Betreff: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] TC2000, 3500s for sale in Texas


On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 23:48 +0100, RoverP6 at gmx.de wrote:
>
> DonB4t worry, be happy  :-)
>
> Rudiger
> www.RoverP6.info

And hope that Rudiger never sets you straight...

;-)

Glen


_______________________________________________
rovernet mailing list
rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
To unsubscribe, go to this web page, look near the bottom and follow
instructions:
http://mailman.nipltd.com/mailman/listinfo/rovernet
Back-up list and photos at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/




------------------------------

Message: 7
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 02:48:06 -0500
From: Glen WIlson <glenwilson at cavtel.net>
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Re: rovernet Digest, Vol 40, Issue 24
To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
Message-ID: <1142408886.5867.0.camel at ubuntu>
Content-Type: text/plain

Those tripods always look very cool!  :-)

On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 19:34 -0500, TheOrganDoctor at aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 3/14/2006 1:12:00 PM Eastern  Standard Time, 
> rovernet-request at lyris.ccdata.com writes:
> 
> There must have  been something in the 1968 law regarding headlamps,
> though. I think this  affected cars like the Jaguar XKE and the little
> Fiat 850 Spider, among other  cars. It may have been a minimum height
> requirement, but it also got rid of  the clear plastic fairings that the
> XKE had (as well as the early Ferrari  Daytona and the Citroens,
> including the SM). It's my impression that  sealed-beam headlamps were
> required prior to 1968, but they certainly were  required after that,
> which accounts for many sleek European having big  bulging eyes in the
> U.S. export versions (including the SD1).
> 
> I don't  think the Federal regulations concerning bumper height came into
> effect until  the 1975 model year when the rubber-bumpered MGs graced our
> shores. I think  1974-1/2 MGs might also have had them.
> 
> These are my foggy recollections,  anyway...
> 
> Glen
> In the mid 60's when I wanted to register my 1953  Jaguar XK120 in 
> Connecticut (US), I had to get a special variance to keep the  non sealed
beam "tripod" 
> Lucas headlamps which were "original  equipment"
> 
> Dick West  
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> rovernet mailing list
> rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> To unsubscribe, go to this web page, look near the bottom and follow
instructions:
> http://mailman.nipltd.com/mailman/listinfo/rovernet
> Back-up list and photos at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/




------------------------------

Message: 8
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 02:51:38 -0500
From: Glen WIlson <glenwilson at cavtel.net>
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] TC2000, 3500s for sale in Texas
To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
Message-ID: <1142409099.5867.3.camel at ubuntu>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 07:46 +0100, RoverP6 at gmx.de wrote:
> ???
> 
> Rudiger
> www.RoverP6.info
> 

Gently teasing with a nod to your encyclopedic knowledge of what Rover
sold, where, and how many!

Glen




------------------------------

Message: 9
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 03:15:05 -0500
From: Glen WIlson <glenwilson at cavtel.net>
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] TC2000, 3500s for sale in Texas
To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
Message-ID: <1142410505.5867.25.camel at ubuntu>
Content-Type: text/plain




On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 13:43 +1100, Peter Huttemeier wrote:

> A bit unnecessarily in my opinion.  While he may be an expert on
> Rovers in US, i am sure he has little knowledge of the range of Rover
> models and each one's individual release specs and options here in
> Australia. Likewise Ray has little idea of what may have been released
> in the US. That is one of the great points of this list, it is
> international in perspective and the little minutiae that us Rover
> Nuts like can be explained.
> 
> If it means explaining something that may have already been done
> before, so what!
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Peter H

Peter,

Pierre's comment was, indeed, a little bit snippy, but I found it more
amusing than offensive, partly because he is usually so unerringly
polite and helpful. I didn't see any smileys in Ray's reply, but when I
read it, I heard Steve Martin saying, "Well, EXCUSE me!"  

;-)

If there were no newcomers, when would we old-timers have any
opportunities to impress other people with our Rover smarts?

Finally, Australia has a rich and interesting automotive heritage of
models imported as well as models designed and manufactured there, to
say nothing of the great racers and race cars it has produced. Since you
are an independent lot, Australia has produced a lot of automotive
literature that never made it over to the USA (Who cares about those
Yanks?). I am always very interested to hear about Australian automotive
matters and especially enjoy postings on that subject.

Anyway, Ray seems to be all right with this, and Pierre will no doubt
apologize profusely and offer Ray a lifetime supply of free Rover parts
(less shipping) when he wakes up and reads these posts! 

Maybe next time, I'll just resist putting my two-cents worth into the
mix!

Don't worry, be happy...

Glen




------------------------------

Message: 10
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:28:54 -0500
From: Pjemail at aol.com
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] TC2000, 3500s for sale in Texas
To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
Message-ID: <052B5725.7DA2C2AB.00195882 at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

I have now woken up and am amazed at the trail which my (well
intentioned)message has caused. Obviously I will need to take a refresher
course in politeness in e-mails.

I posted my message because I was surprised, given the North American
origins and general domination of the Rovernet, that regular users might be
unaware that the 3500S designation was used for the V8 cars exported to
North America at a time when the manual transmission version had not been
introduced. These cars are so regularly mentioned that I just assumed that
pretty much everyone on the Rovernet knew this as it's not one of the most
obscure facts about the cars. I am well used to the beliefs amongst those of
my fellow countrymen who don't have the advantage of knowing about Rovers in
an international context that "S" means manual transmission, but with the
international exchange on the Rovernet I thought people learnt very quickly
that there had been the "oddity",  from the perspective of the rest of the
world, of the 3500S auto in North America.

Anyway, apologies to anyone who found my mode of expression anything less
than courteous. Oh, and by the way Glen, I was diappointed not to receive a
card for my 100th Birthday :).

Pierre Janusz





------------------------------

_______________________________________________
rovernet mailing list
rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
To unsubscribe, go to this web page, scroll to the bottom, and follow
instructions:
http://mailman.nipltd.com/mailman/listinfo/rovernet
Back-up list and photos at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/

End of rovernet Digest, Vol 40, Issue 26
****************************************



_______________________________________________
rovernet mailing list
rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
To unsubscribe, go to this web page, look near the bottom and follow
instructions:
http://mailman.nipltd.com/mailman/listinfo/rovernet
Back-up list and photos at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/




More information about the rovernet mailing list