[ROVERNET - UK] Rebuild kits and KinardRove '06

Sat Jul 22 12:45:52 BST 2006

Lance

I'm currently converting a 4.3 litre TVR Griffith to a
5.3 litre, using a second-hand, or is that pre-owned,
or maybe a seasoned, 4.6 litre Land Rover block. The
4.6 has cross-bolted mains. The stroker kit I bought
comes from V8 Developments in UK. The bore is 96 mm,
about 3.8 inches and the external diameter of the
liners is 99mm. To go to 100mm I have been told would
be too risky as the bore could break into the water
jacket. The kit includes a crank, top hat liners,
forged con rods, pistons, bearings etc. My engine
builder says that the con rods are  used in Chevy V8s,
and the liners come from something Japanese I think.
They were quite thick so gives you lots of options. I
shall ask him on Monday and let you know. I'm told to
expect 400 lbs/ft of torque and between 330 and 380
bhp depending on the cam. As I want a smoooth idle the
hp will be at the lower end.

Peter B

--- Kent Kinard <kkinard at wcc.net> wrote:

> Hi Lance,
> Hi Lance (and other netters),
> 
>  From reading Rimmers paper V8 catalogue, I conclude
> that 
> they only supply the stock type sleeves in their 3.5
> to 
> 3.9 conversion kits.  Stock 3.9 pistons are fine,
> but the 
> stock 3.9 sleeves are too thick and do not leave
> enough 
> meat in the cylinder wall.  I have yet to identify
> the 
> source of the thin sleeves listed by Des Hammill in
> his 
> book.  The top hat sleeves (flanged) are available
> from LA 
> Sleeve in Los Angeles but are over $600US per set. 
> (Seems 
> like I posted this a while back).  So I really don't
> know 
> what to suggest in terms of a rebuild kit...use the
> rest 
> of the Rimmers kit but not the sleeves if you are
> going to 
> a 3.7 inch bore.  All the other stuff will be good,
> but 
> check the kit when it arrives for completeness and 
> quality.  Rimmers...you can't live with them and you
> can't 
> live without them.  I received three sets of TR8
> block 
> mounts from them before I got a pair that wasn't too
> 
> warped to bolt to the block.  The first set of
> stainless 
> headers I got from them for an SD1 placed one pipe
> in the 
> same location as the steering shaft.  The forgot
> that LHD 
> cars have a steering shaft on the left.  The next
> Rimmers 
> catalogue listed separate header sets for LHD and
> RHD 
> applications and I got the first set of LHD headers
> they 
> sold...but they still didn't clear the starter
> solenoid so 
> I had to use a P6B starter...duh!
> 
> If I had read this earlier, I could have asked our
> host 
> this morning, Phil Baker, about sleeves.  Phil is 86
> and 
> lost his wife recently.  He suffers from severe
> arthritis 
> but his mind is clear and sharp.  He took us out to
> the 
> shop and showed us a prototype V12 based on
> Rover/Buick 
> components (I took a picture) which his son, Ray,
> will 
> soon begin producing.  Phil had a stack of sleeves
> for use 
> with the 3.7 inch bore sitting on a shelf and
> several 
> hundred 215 blocks to use for this project.  The
> cranks 
> are cut from huge billets and cams from special
> blanks.  I 
> felt humbled to get to talk with one of my boyhood
> heros 
> and a man who has made a great contribution to the 
> development of the Buick/Rover V8.  I worked on one
> of his 
> 5.0 liter Buick conversions many years ago and
> thought at 
> the time that it was a very beautiful piece of work.
>  No 
> man has worked with our aluminum V8's longer (Dan
> LaGrue 
> is the possible exception).  Phil is a great guy and
> I'm 
> glad I finally got to meet him.
> 
> For those who will be there, Peter and I will see
> you at 
> Bellevue tomorrow, God willing.
> 
> Roverovingly,
> Kent K.
> 
> 
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 02:51:39 -0400
>   Glen Wilson <glenwilson at cavtel.net> wrote:
> > On Monday 10 July 2006 23:50, Lance La Certe
> wrote:
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> Wanted to ask your help on engine rebuild kits.. 
> Am in 
> >>the process of
> >> rebuilding my 3.5 V8 ('70 'Federal'  3500S). 
> I've found 
> >>what appears to
> >> be, an excellent set of kits from Rimmer Bros. in
> the 
> >>UK----a 3.5 kit and a
> >> 3.9 kit.  Can anyone provide any reputable
> sources for 
> >>rebuild kits in the
> >> US? Does anyone have experience with the Rimmer
> kits?
> > 
> > Lance, 
> > 
> > Try catching Kent as he runs out the door.
> > 
> > There a re a number of sources for rebuild kits
> for the 
> >Buick 215 engine, and 
> > most (not all) of the parts are interchangeable. 
> > 
> > TS Imported Automotive
> > New-Used-Rebuilt-NOS-Performance British car
> parts. Some 
> >used cars for sale. 
> > Very strong on SD1 and V8 performance. Some older
> Rover 
> >stuff
> > 404 Basinger Road
> > Pandora, OH 45877
> > Phone: 800-543-6648 or 419-384-3022
> >Fax:  419-384-3272
> > Web Site: 
> > Email: tedtsimx at q1.net
> > USA
> > 
> > Ted Schumacher is a decent, honest guy who deals
> mostly 
> >in high performance 
> > Rover V8s. I don't know if he sells things like
> kits, 
> >but I'm pretty sure he 
> > would offer good advice. Tell him Glen WIlson said
> to 
> >remind him about the 
> > 80% discount for RSTCA members...
> > 
> > There's also a guy in Utah who deals in Rover V8s,
> but I 
> >don't see his contact 
> > info. He used to advertise every month in Hemmings
> Motor 
> >News under Rover 
> > parts.
> > 
> > Companies like Atlantic British might be a source,
> but 
> >they tend to deal more 
> > with later Range Rover engines.
> > 
> > If you are going to order from overseas, you
> should 
> >always run it by Pierre.
> > 
> > Rover Parts Services
> > Pierre responds promptly to email inquiries.
> > 11 Polworth Road
> > London SW16 2ET.
> > Phone: (011) 44 20 8696 9645 or (011) 44 20 8883
> 5309
> >Fax: (011) 44 20 8696 9645
> > Email: pjemail at aol.com
> > UK
> > 
> > My experience with Rimmer was years ago. They were
> very 
> >expensive, wouldn't 
> > lift a finger to save you money on international 
> >shipping, and they tended to 
> > always ship 90% of my order and tell me the last
> couple 
> >of crucial parts 
> > were "no longer available" (though they were
> offered for 
> >sale on their 
> > website).
> > 
> > Glen
> > 
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