[ROVERNET - UK] Junk on Rovernet?

Glen Wilson glenwilson at cavtel.net
Tue Apr 25 19:31:16 BST 2006


On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 11:02 -0700, Eric Russell wrote:
> John,
> The topic of "junk stuff" has been raised a few times
> in the history of the Rovernet.
> 
> One school of thought is that the Rovernet should only
> contain technical information.  That would mean that I
> would have to police the mailing list heavily and
> admonish posters frequently (maybe daily).  The list
> would be characterized by a technical piece and
> perhaps by a submission some would decide was not
> technical so that would be followed by a downer
> complaint to the list by me.
> 
> Another school of thought is a more gentle approach
> and letting a discussion flow as it might in an
> English pub on a Saturday night.
> 
> There was a time about 3 - 5 years ago when 2
> Australians and an Englishman tried to take over the
> list and rant over long periods on non-topic issues. 
> I took a firm position and banned those people.
> 
> In the U.S.A. (the land of the first amendment), I was
> supported by Glen Wilson and criticized by Stephen
> Beer on my handling of the situation.
> 
> I then came to the conclusion that there was no way on
> earth I could satisfy all people.  I am resolved to
> enjoying the contributions of those who join the list
> and not miss those who are not as open minded as I was
> told I should be. But,.... I do standby with the
> Viking's axe.....   ;-)
> 
> I think that if people enjoy the experience - they
> stay.  If they find the list is no fun anymore - they
> leave.
> 
> I have usually found the people on the list to be
> interesting and informative.  Sometimes the list
> strays off topic but returns faster than it did before
> the crunch time of a few years back.
> 
> "You can please some of the people some of the time
> but you can't please all of the people all of the
> time."
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
> --- John Burkhard <burkhaj at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Eric,
> > 
> > When I sent out the 2006 register I sent along the
> > Rovernet information. 
> > After talking to some members I found the they had
> > been on rovernet at one 
> > time but found too much NON information stuff.  I
> > deal with the junk stuff 
> > but from time to time I do find some interesting
> > items.  Take Care.  jb
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> > To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 3:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] USA Rover Club Website
> > 
> > 
> > > John,
> > > On the bottom of every Rovernet message, there is
> > a
> > > hot link to the Rovernet Info page where a new
> > person
> > > can join and a veteran can unsubscribe change his
> > > settings, or put the email "on hold" when on
> > holiday.
> > >
> > > There is also more detail on our club page here:
> > >
> > > http://www.roverclub.ca/rovernet.html
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
> > >
> > > --- John Burkhard <burkhaj at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I did a survey of the western group and found
> > that
> > >> only about half of the
> > >> respondence knew about [ROVERNET-UK]. 
> > Instructions
> > >> on how to subscribe
> > >> could be helpful.  Thank you for all your good
> > work
> > >> on this project.  jb
> > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >> From: "Stephen JC Beer" <stephen at beerinc.com>
> > >> To: "Jim Cumberland" <fjcumberland at yahoo.com>;
> > >> <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 6:12 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] USA Rover Club
> > Website
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Thanks Jim. Please keep me posted.
> > >> >
> > >> > I'm mulling over creating a F.A.Q. page.
> > >> > Would it be appropriate to look up Rovernet
> > >> archives for this sort of
> > >> > thing?
> > >> >
> > >> > Stephen
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Apr 17, 2006, at 12:44 PM, Jim Cumberland
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> I've got a friend who's an intellectual
> > property
> > >> lawyer - I'll ask her.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Cheers,e
> > >> >> Jim
> > >> >>
> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----
> > >> >> From: peter king <peter at king-co.com>
> > >> >> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> > >> >> Sent: Friday, April 7, 2006 11:47:42 AM
> > >> >> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] USA Rover Club
> > >> Website
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Stephen,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> If you find that organizations such as the
> > RSTCA
> > >> are allowed to
> > >> >> duplicate out-of print manuals with no
> > copyright
> > >> problems, I would be
> > >> >> willing to help you with the task. I do not
> > have
> > >> the capability to
> > >> >> scan multiple pages at once, but can batch
> > scan
> > >> and convert to pdf. I
> > >> >> do it every day in my business. Let me know
> > what
> > >> you find out.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> By the way, the site looks great so far!
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Thanks,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Peter King
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Apr 6, 2006, at 10:25 PM, Stephen JC Beer
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> Hello all.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> I am finally making some progress on the
> > update
> > >> / revise of the
> > >> >>> RSTCA website.
> > >> >>> My hat is off to Glen WIlson for all the
> > effort
> > >> and time he must
> > >> >>> have put in on the first go around.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Seeing Glen's posting on the original site of
> > a
> > >> Service Manual
> > >> >>> Supplement got me thinking. If we could
> > provide
> > >> a database of
> > >> >>> copyright-free older manuals we would be
> > doing
> > >> the worldwide Rover
> > >> >>> community a good service. The moment any new
> > >> Citroen DS owner joins
> > >> >>> their list they are immediately directed to
> > the
> > >> vast database of
> > >> >>> FREE downloadable parts manuals, service
> > >> manuals, bulletins, etc.
> > >> >>> for the various DS models. These people will
> > >> even burn it all onto
> > >> >>> a disc for you if you pay for postage. These
> > >> files are invaluable.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> I think for the greater Rover good we should
> > do
> > >> this -- but it is a
> > >> >>> large undertaking and I could not do it
> > alone. I
> > >> can host this
> > >> >>> stuff on my server and put it together into a
> > >> clean, easily
> > >> >>> accessible format -- but if someone knows of
> > a
> > >> way to digitally
> > >> >>> scan many pages at a time, the job might be
> > >> feasible. I can then
> > >> >>> convert these scans to downloadable PDF files
> > >> which could be
> > >> >>> accessed from the site. I have the factory
> > Rover
> > >> 2000 Service
> > >> >>> Manual, an Owner's Manual, and P2 books
> > (which
> > >> may have copyright
> > >> >>> issues that would need sorting as I had to
> > >> purchase them from an
> > >> >>> official Rover Club). This stuff should be
> > free,
> > >> dagburnit!  Its
> > >> >>> tough enough to keep these lovely cars
> > running.
> > >> ;-)
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> The work in progress...
> > >> >>> http://beerinc.com/rstca
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Cheers,
> > >> >>> Stephen Beer
> > >> >>> Milan, NY
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
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> > _______________________________________________
> > 
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