>
From kkinard at att.net Tue Jan 3 19:49:29 2012
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 19:49:29 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] Slats Wolf
Message-ID: <4F03B029.4010604@att.net>
Hi Netters,
I got a letter from Marie Wolf today saying that Slats had passed away
on November 26. Was this on Rovernet and I just missed it?
Roverly,
Kent K.
From vern at inkspotco.com Tue Jan 3 20:09:17 2012
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 18:09:17 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] Slats Wolf
In-Reply-To: <4F03B029.4010604@att.net>
References: <4F03B029.4010604@att.net>
Message-ID: <8E2B1C01-228F-4F94-8D05-B82F6908B399@inkspotco.com>
I never read it.
Sad news indeed. My condolences.
Yours
Vern
On 2012-01-03, at 5:49 PM, Kent Kinard wrote:
>
> Hi Netters,
> I got a letter from Marie Wolf today saying that Slats had passed away on November 26. Was this on Rovernet and I just missed it?
>
> Roverly,
> Kent K.
>
> **************************************
> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
Inkspot Type & Design 250 864 5619 in at inkspotco.com
From veetwinrider at yahoo.com Tue Jan 3 20:29:53 2012
From: veetwinrider at yahoo.com (roland)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 18:29:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Slats Wolf
In-Reply-To: <4F03B029.4010604@att.net>
Message-ID: <1325644193.40776.YahooMailClassic@web180507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Please pass on our sincere sympathies Kent.
?
roland, Roverless.
--- On Tue, 1/3/12, Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> wrote:
From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net>
Subject: [Rovernet ] Slats Wolf
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Date: Tuesday, January 3, 2012, 5:49 PM
Hi Netters,
I got a letter from Marie Wolf today saying that Slats had passed away on November 26.? Was this on Rovernet and I just missed it?
Roverly,
Kent K.
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From kkinard at att.net Tue Jan 3 21:35:53 2012
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 21:35:53 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] Slats Wolf
In-Reply-To: <8E2B1C01-228F-4F94-8D05-B82F6908B399@inkspotco.com>
References: <4F03B029.4010604@att.net>
<8E2B1C01-228F-4F94-8D05-B82F6908B399@inkspotco.com>
Message-ID: <4F03C919.30102@att.net>
Netters,
If this wasn't on Rovernet, then you may express your condolences to
Marie directly at:
Marie Wolfe
3403 N.W. 166th Street
Ridgefield, WA 98642
Slats had a number of MG's and a P5 Mk.II automatic. Marie has
expressed an interest in disposing of the cars.
Roverly,
Kent K.
Vern Klukas wrote:
> I never read it.
>
> Sad news indeed. My condolences.
>
> Yours
> Vern
> On 2012-01-03, at 5:49 PM, Kent Kinard wrote:
>
>
>> Hi Netters,
>> I got a letter from Marie Wolf today saying that Slats had passed away on November 26. Was this on Rovernet and I just missed it?
>>
>> Roverly,
>> Kent K.
>>
>> **************************************
>> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>>
>>
> Inkspot Type& Design 250 864 5619 in at inkspotco.com
>
>
>
>
>
> **************************************
> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
>
>
From lingfield51 at btopenworld.com Wed Jan 4 02:01:43 2012
From: lingfield51 at btopenworld.com (Partviking)
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 08:01:43 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Slats Wolf
In-Reply-To: <8E2B1C01-228F-4F94-8D05-B82F6908B399@inkspotco.com>
References: <4F03B029.4010604@att.net>
<8E2B1C01-228F-4F94-8D05-B82F6908B399@inkspotco.com>
Message-ID: <1325664103.67200.YahooMailNeo@web86706.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
So sorry to hear of Slats passing, one of the many 'names' that I remember from when I first joined Rovernet nearly 12 years ago and a regular contributor, he'll be sadly missed.
Alan Francis (partviking)
________________________________
From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com>
To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, 4 January 2012, 2:09
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Slats Wolf
I never read it.
Sad news indeed. My condolences.
Yours
Vern
On 2012-01-03, at 5:49 PM, Kent Kinard wrote:
>
> Hi Netters,
> I got a letter from Marie Wolf today saying that Slats had passed away on November 26.? Was this on Rovernet and I just missed it?
>
> Roverly,
> Kent K.
>
> **************************************
> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
Inkspot Type & Design??? 250 864 5619??? in at inkspotco.com
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Wed Jan 4 02:43:17 2012
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 09:43:17 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Slats Wolf
In-Reply-To: <4F03C919.30102@att.net>
References: <4F03B029.4010604@att.net><8E2B1C01-228F-4F94-8D05-B82F6908B399@inkspotco.com>
<4F03C919.30102@att.net>
Message-ID: <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B9596013D0532@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel>
Dear friends,
sad news.
Never read on Rovernet.
I meet him with Maria here in Rome when they were here on holyday.
He was a kind man.
It is a real pity.
My deepest condolences.
Best regards, ciao, GR.
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Kent Kinard
Inviato: mercoled? 4 gennaio 2012 4.36
A: Rovernet
Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet ] Slats Wolf
Netters,
If this wasn't on Rovernet, then you may express your condolences to
Marie directly at:
Marie Wolfe
3403 N.W. 166th Street
Ridgefield, WA 98642
Slats had a number of MG's and a P5 Mk.II automatic. Marie has
expressed an interest in disposing of the cars.
Roverly,
Kent K.
Vern Klukas wrote:
> I never read it.
>
> Sad news indeed. My condolences.
>
> Yours
> Vern
> On 2012-01-03, at 5:49 PM, Kent Kinard wrote:
>
>
>> Hi Netters,
>> I got a letter from Marie Wolf today saying that Slats had passed away on November 26. Was this on Rovernet and I just missed it?
>>
>> Roverly,
>> Kent K.
>>
>> **************************************
>> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>>
>>
> Inkspot Type& Design 250 864 5619 in at inkspotco.com
>
>
>
>
>
> **************************************
> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
>
>
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From irishrover1 at live.com Wed Jan 4 04:23:34 2012
From: irishrover1 at live.com (Frederick Ben Rodgers)
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 07:23:34 -0300
Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Slats Wolf
In-Reply-To: <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B9596013D0532@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel>
References: <4F03B029.4010604@att.net><8E2B1C01-228F-4F94-8D05-B82F6908B399@inkspotco.com>,
<4F03C919.30102@att.net>,
<39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B9596013D0532@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel>
Message-ID: <COL111-W403BCD8C55A268A43549C287970@phx.gbl>
Hi Folks
What sad news, I never knew Slats but enjoyed talking with him via the Rovernet, he was a knowledgeable and helpful roverguy. He will be missed.
Ben (irishrover)
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> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 09:43:17 +0100
> From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Slats Wolf
>
>
> Dear friends,
>
> sad news.
> Never read on Rovernet.
> I meet him with Maria here in Rome when they were here on holyday.
> He was a kind man.
> It is a real pity.
> My deepest condolences.
>
> Best regards, ciao, GR.
>
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Kent Kinard
> Inviato: mercoled? 4 gennaio 2012 4.36
> A: Rovernet
> Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet ] Slats Wolf
>
>
> Netters,
> If this wasn't on Rovernet, then you may express your condolences to
> Marie directly at:
> Marie Wolfe
> 3403 N.W. 166th Street
> Ridgefield, WA 98642
>
> Slats had a number of MG's and a P5 Mk.II automatic. Marie has
> expressed an interest in disposing of the cars.
>
> Roverly,
> Kent K.
>
> Vern Klukas wrote:
> > I never read it.
> >
> > Sad news indeed. My condolences.
> >
> > Yours
> > Vern
> > On 2012-01-03, at 5:49 PM, Kent Kinard wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Hi Netters,
> >> I got a letter from Marie Wolf today saying that Slats had passed away on November 26. Was this on Rovernet and I just missed it?
> >>
> >> Roverly,
> >> Kent K.
> >>
> >> **************************************
> >> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
> >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> >>
> >>
> > Inkspot Type& Design 250 864 5619 in at inkspotco.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > **************************************
> > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> **************************************
> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
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From sdibdin at gmail.com Wed Jan 4 14:45:08 2012
From: sdibdin at gmail.com (Steven Dibdin)
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 15:45:08 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Slats Wolf
In-Reply-To: <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B9596013D0532@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel>
References: <4F03B029.4010604@att.net>
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<4F03C919.30102@att.net>
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Message-ID: <9817FAEB-CA64-43E6-A5C8-23DFFB671793@gmail.com>
I'm very sorry to hear about Slats passing. I spoke with him a few times as he had been kind enough to check out my 2000tc before I bought and had it shipped across country.
He was honest, very knowledgable and fun to talk with. He also helped me as I got know my car.
The world is poorer for his absence.
Steven
Sent from my iPhone, please excuse any typing errors
From kkinard at att.net Wed Jan 11 17:11:16 2012
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 17:11:16 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] Marie Wolfe's email, Slats' cars
Message-ID: <4F0E1714.9000003@att.net>
Hi Netters,
For those of you waiting to get in touch with Slats' wife, Marie, you
can copy her address from this email.
Marie is hoping for help in disposing of Slats cars, including the P5
Mk. II Automatic. She would like some help from the RCCC establishing a
fair price for the Rover. I will not offer an opinion since I know a
potential buyer and do not wish to put him in touch with Marie until
there is an accurate estimate of the car's value.
Marie is located just north of Portland, OR, across the river in
Washington state.
Roverly,
Kent K.
From magnet at roverclub.org Thu Jan 12 06:45:07 2012
From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 07:45:07 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 rt hand outer sill
Message-ID: <4F0ED5D3.2000807@roverclub.org>
A friend, Owen Evans of Napanee, Ontario, is looking for an undamaged
right-hand outer sill (rocker panel) for his 1970 3500S. Can anyone help?
Owen writes;
"The car, by the way, is a 1970 registered as '71. It has 35,000 miles
on it and runs extremely well. Just about everything is original with
the following exceptions
- overflow tank added to the radiator
-upgraded seat belts
-K&N air filters
-a period Nardi steering wheel
I disconnected the vacuum advance, that made a big improvement in the
general running of the car. The suspension squeaks because of the 40
year old bushings.
Chrome is all original and flawless. Paint is original, not quite
perfect but excellent for the number of miles on the car. The interior
is also near flawless, only the driver's seat shows it has been used.
I have a wonderful time driving on our little used country roads around
here."
TIA,
Bill Daddis
From kkinard at att.net Thu Jan 12 07:24:11 2012
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 07:24:11 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 rt hand outer sill
In-Reply-To: <4F0ED5D3.2000807@roverclub.org>
References: <4F0ED5D3.2000807@roverclub.org>
Message-ID: <4F0EDEFB.8050502@att.net>
meHi Bill,
I know I have one loose and ready to ship, just don't know which side. I
can find out Saturday. Ask him to contact me off list.
Roverly,
Kent K.
Magnet wrote:
>
> A friend, Owen Evans of Napanee, Ontario, is looking for an undamaged
> right-hand outer sill (rocker panel) for his 1970 3500S. Can anyone help?
>
> Owen writes;
>
> "The car, by the way, is a 1970 registered as '71. It has 35,000 miles
> on it and runs extremely well. Just about everything is original with
> the following exceptions
> - overflow tank added to the radiator
> -upgraded seat belts
> -K&N air filters
> -a period Nardi steering wheel
> I disconnected the vacuum advance, that made a big improvement in the
> general running of the car. The suspension squeaks because of the 40
> year old bushings.
> Chrome is all original and flawless. Paint is original, not quite
> perfect but excellent for the number of miles on the car. The interior
> is also near flawless, only the driver's seat shows it has been used.
> I have a wonderful time driving on our little used country roads
> around here."
>
> TIA,
>
> Bill Daddis
>
> **************************************
> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
>
From tom at rymes.net Thu Jan 12 09:04:32 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 10:04:32 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 rt hand outer sill
In-Reply-To: <4F0ED5D3.2000807@roverclub.org>
References: <4F0ED5D3.2000807@roverclub.org>
Message-ID: <4F0EF680.2040905@rymes.net>
On 01/12/2012 7:45 AM, Magnet wrote:
> I disconnected the vacuum advance, that made a big improvement in the
> general running of the car. The suspension squeaks because of the 40
> year old bushings.
This is somewhat off-topic, but perhaps the reason that this improved
things is that the distributor is old and has never been rebuilt.
Because of this, the old, weak springs allow too much advance to begin
with, and the vac advance adds even more.
I would recommend that anyone with an old car that has not had their
distributor rebuilt and recurved send it out to Jeff at Advanced
Distributors (http://www.advanceddistributors.com). It can really make a
world of difference, and is not a major expense.
Tom
PS: I have no connection to Jeff, other than as a satisfied customer....
From dmesmg at juno.com Thu Jan 12 09:40:59 2012
From: dmesmg at juno.com (dmesmg at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 15:40:59 GMT
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Federal --distributor vacuum unit
Message-ID: <20120112.104059.3510.0@webmail05.vgs.untd.com>
Tom,
I believe that the 3500S Federal cars actually had a vacuum 'retard' feature --that the vacuum unit actually (purposely) served to retard the advance. I also believe this was done with respect to the then-current emissions laws in the US.
Agreed that Jeff Schlemmer at Advanced Distributors does a wonderful job rebuilding the old Lucas distributors. He rebuilt the one for my MGA this past fall and it came back beautiful --new bushing for the shaft, new distributor plate and components, and new red (higher quality) rotor.
Best regards,
Dan
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From tom at rymes.net Thu Jan 12 09:42:57 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 10:42:57 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Federal --distributor vacuum unit
In-Reply-To: <20120112.104059.3510.0@webmail05.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20120112.104059.3510.0@webmail05.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <4F0EFF81.7050203@rymes.net>
On 01/12/2012 10:40 AM, dmesmg at juno.com wrote:
> Tom,
> I believe that the 3500S Federal cars actually had a vacuum 'retard' feature --that the vacuum unit actually (purposely) served to retard the advance. I also believe this was done with respect to the then-current emissions laws in the US.
>
> Agreed that Jeff Schlemmer at Advanced Distributors does a wonderful job rebuilding the old Lucas distributors. He rebuilt the one for my MGA this past fall and it came back beautiful --new bushing for the shaft, new distributor plate and components, and new red (higher quality) rotor.
>
> Best regards,
> Dan
That thought actually crossed my mind, Dan. Perhaps the diaphragm broke
and was creating a vacuum leak?
Either way you slice it, though, a ~40 year old distributor could
probably use a little TLC by this point. A proper recurve REALLY makes a
big difference for an MGC, and it really woke up the Riley, too.
Tom
From R.Thornton at adelaidecitycouncil.com Thu Jan 12 16:46:24 2012
From: R.Thornton at adelaidecitycouncil.com (Robert Thornton)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 22:46:24 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Federal --distributor vacuum unit
In-Reply-To: <20120112.104059.3510.0@webmail05.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20120112.104059.3510.0@webmail05.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <7E8B027C3DFF8B4AA8DAD97EB57851CB0B0143FB@ACCEX01.adelaide.sa.gov.au>
The Australian spec series 1 3500 SD1s had the same retard 'feature' on the Lucas Opus Distributor (along with other anti pollution gear like EGR valves and cylinder head air pumps).
After running the Lucas dissy for 30 years, albeit with a Lumenition optronoic kit fitted, I am now using a Scorcher Distributor that I had built by Performance Ignition Services in Melbourne, uses all commonly available Bosch GM parts mounted into a Ford casing with a custom advance curve. A lot of Land Rover guys have them and they are 100% reliable, unlike the Lucas variants that are renowned for their electronic module problems, failed vacuum advance mechanisms, and rotor button issues.
Cheers
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of dmesmg at juno.com
Sent: Friday, 13 January 2012 2:11 AM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] 3500S Federal --distributor vacuum unit
Tom,
I believe that the 3500S Federal cars actually had a vacuum 'retard' feature --that the vacuum unit actually (purposely) served to retard the advance. I also believe this was done with respect to the then-current emissions laws in the US.
Agreed that Jeff Schlemmer at Advanced Distributors does a wonderful job rebuilding the old Lucas distributors. He rebuilt the one for my MGA this past fall and it came back beautiful --new bushing for the shaft, new distributor plate and components, and new red (higher quality) rotor.
Best regards,
Dan
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From renovations.plus at hotmail.com Thu Jan 12 17:51:46 2012
From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com (Dennis .)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 19:51:46 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] lucas dist advance
Message-ID: <BAY145-W61C917CDB74A9AEB100AA9959F0@phx.gbl>
Since we are on the distrubitor topic can anyone here tell me what happens when the seal does go bad ?? Also..I believe it was Bill who said he had disconnected the advance on a friends car resulting in improved performance ...how can that be ?? Does an inopperative vaccum advance not simply cause the loss of timing advance when neweded ? ...anyways..a bunch of questions for you to ponder...Thanks Regards Dennis Brooks
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From magnet at roverclub.org Thu Jan 12 19:01:31 2012
From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 20:01:31 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] lucas dist advance
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-W61C917CDB74A9AEB100AA9959F0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY145-W61C917CDB74A9AEB100AA9959F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4F0F826B.5070608@roverclub.org>
I had a vacuum advance diaphragm go bad on my 1959 "90". Two results:
(1) no vacuum advance, only centrifugal, and (2) a bit of extra air
leaking into the inlet manifold. In practice, the effect on the car's
performance was not especially significant, except at higher speeds when
the loss of some advance caused the engine to run a bit hot, and a
slight fall-off in economy.
I think the reference to disconnecting the vacuum unit may have been in
the message I received from Owen Evans, on his 3500S. As was pointed
out in an earlier post, the vacuum unit on these cars actually provides
retardation, not advance. The vacuum unit was connnected to the inlet
manifold through a little valve on the throttle linkage (Rover called it
a "vacuum switch") which allowed vacuum to operate the retard unit at
idle, giving a timing of 6 degrees *after* TDC. This was necessary, so
I'm told, to allow the engine to idle satisfactorily on the very lean
mixture needed to pass the emissions regulations. As soon as the
throttle was opened, the vacuum unit was cut off and the timing reverted
to TDC plus whatever advance the centrifugal mechanism provided.
In practice, this arrangement made for a poor idle, plus a sort of step
function in the increase in engine speed as soon as the throttle was
opened enough to cut off the vacuum retard. Eliminating this
arrangement by disconnecting the vacuum unit and fattening up the idle
mixture made for a noticeable improvement in driveability. Same was
true on the later Federal 2000TCs.
Cheers,
-- Bill D.
On 12-Jan-12 6:51 PM, Dennis . wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Since we are on the distrubitor topic can anyone here tell me what happens when the seal does go bad ?? Also..I believe it was Bill who said he had disconnected the advance on a friends car resulting in improved performance ...how can that be ?? Does an inopperative vaccum advance not simply cause the loss of timing advance when neweded ? ...anyways..a bunch of questions for you to ponder...Thanks Regards Dennis Brooks
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From adrian.mcdonald at live.com Tue Jan 17 12:05:55 2012
From: adrian.mcdonald at live.com (Adrian McDonald)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:05:55 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Universal Joint
Message-ID: <BLU154-W371EB61662ED1A12F484DA9E800@phx.gbl>
Hi there
In my eternal wire wheel swap project, the latest casualty is the universal joint on the wheel hub. Anyone in N. America have one of these, before I go to the usual suspects in the UK?
I am seemingly on a mission to sequentially destroy every part that is directly or indirectly involved with swapping to wire wheels while undertaking the task. At this point, it is becoming a bit frustrating!
Adrian
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From vern at inkspotco.com Tue Jan 17 12:23:34 2012
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:23:34 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Universal Joint
In-Reply-To: <BLU154-W371EB61662ED1A12F484DA9E800@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU154-W371EB61662ED1A12F484DA9E800@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <E86E771C-89FD-47FF-8999-71950227EA5E@inkspotco.com>
Same joint as the driveshaft joints on GMC trucks of the 70's. If my memory is correct. Might be Ford, but I think not.
Yours
Vern
On 2012-01-17, at 10:05 AM, Adrian McDonald wrote:
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>
> Hi there
>
> In my eternal wire wheel swap project, the latest casualty is the universal joint on the wheel hub. Anyone in N. America have one of these, before I go to the usual suspects in the UK?
>
> I am seemingly on a mission to sequentially destroy every part that is directly or indirectly involved with swapping to wire wheels while undertaking the task. At this point, it is becoming a bit frustrating!
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> Adrian
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From david at davidwalter.net Tue Jan 17 13:21:55 2012
From: david at davidwalter.net (David Walter)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 11:21:55 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Universal Joint
In-Reply-To: <BLU154-W371EB61662ED1A12F484DA9E800@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU154-W371EB61662ED1A12F484DA9E800@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <709A484D3DAB47AE9A9A9EFCB1A7DB93@DavidPC>
Rishad,
looks very good, will write later as I must now go to Santa Barbara to see
about the new DPC case.
David
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To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:05 AM
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Universal Joint
>
>
> Hi there
>
> In my eternal wire wheel swap project, the latest casualty is the
> universal joint on the wheel hub. Anyone in N. America have one of these,
> before I go to the usual suspects in the UK?
>
> I am seemingly on a mission to sequentially destroy every part that is
> directly or indirectly involved with swapping to wire wheels while
> undertaking the task. At this point, it is becoming a bit frustrating!
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From bsaunders at firstva.com Tue Jan 17 13:42:27 2012
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:42:27 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Universal Joint
In-Reply-To: <BLU154-W371EB61662ED1A12F484DA9E800@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU154-W371EB61662ED1A12F484DA9E800@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <526181751E6348AAB6DE2D7FE5A18D9E@SD1>
I think Vern is correct. I got the drive shaft u-joints (Chevy) locally but
the axel joints are larger so they will have a different match up. Take the
old one with you to a car parts place where they repair cars. Let me know
where you are and I will look to see what I have. I think all mine are on
the axels if I have any spares.
Ben
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From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Adrian McDonald
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:06 PM
To: Rovernet
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Universal Joint
Hi there
In my eternal wire wheel swap project, the latest casualty is the universal
joint on the wheel hub. Anyone in N. America have one of these, before I go
to the usual suspects in the UK?
I am seemingly on a mission to sequentially destroy every part that is
directly or indirectly involved with swapping to wire wheels while
undertaking the task. At this point, it is becoming a bit frustrating!
Adrian
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From RoverP6 at gmx.de Wed Jan 18 10:48:14 2012
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:48:14 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet ] web found - P6 3500 S in FL
References: <4F0ED5D3.2000807@roverclub.org>
Message-ID: <F10856523B884C85AD10124B3D9650AE@rw>
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=662251
Can?t identify this red P6 :-(
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info
From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Wed Jan 18 11:13:31 2012
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 18:13:31 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet ] R: web found - P6 3500 S in FL
In-Reply-To: <F10856523B884C85AD10124B3D9650AE@rw>
References: <4F0ED5D3.2000807@roverclub.org>
<F10856523B884C85AD10124B3D9650AE@rw>
Message-ID: <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959601498056@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel>
This very beautiful red p6!
Several years ago, I remember a similar one with external mirrors on the wings!
Best regards, ciao, GR.
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di RoverP6 at gmx.de
Inviato: mercoled? 18 gennaio 2012 17.48
A: Rovernet
Oggetto: [Rovernet ] web found - P6 3500 S in FL
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=662251
Can?t identify this red P6 :-(
Rudiger
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From magnet at roverclub.org Wed Jan 18 12:00:34 2012
From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:00:34 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] web found - P6 3500 S in FL
In-Reply-To: <F10856523B884C85AD10124B3D9650AE@rw>
References: <4F0ED5D3.2000807@roverclub.org>
<F10856523B884C85AD10124B3D9650AE@rw>
Message-ID: <4F1708C2.1080906@roverclub.org>
Don't know whose it might be, but I seem to recall seeing it at the
Bronte Creek British Car Day a few years ago. Lovely car.
Good to see that some other folk take their Rovers on extended holidays!
Cheers,
-- Bill D.
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> http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=662251
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> Can?t identify this red P6 :-(
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> Rudiger
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From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Wed Jan 18 20:05:45 2012
From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 21:05:45 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Universal Joint
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1326909604.20811.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
References: <mailman.3.1326909604.20811.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
Message-ID: <SNT105-W537BFCFBDDD1253CAD54658E860@phx.gbl>
>
>
> Hi there
>
> In my eternal wire wheel swap project, the latest casualty is the universal joint on the wheel hub. Anyone in N. America have one of these, before I go to the usual suspects in the UK?
>
> I am seemingly on a mission to sequentially destroy every part that is directly or indirectly involved with swapping to wire wheels while undertaking the task. At this point, it is becoming a bit frustrating!
>
> Adrian
>
I think that this joint is a Dana Spicer 5-178X. That is what I have listed for the Rover 2000. I am pretty sure that the 3500's are the same.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dana-Spicer-universal-joint-5-178X-/120840827512?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item1c22acb278
James.
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From dmesmg at juno.com Wed Jan 18 20:52:25 2012
From: dmesmg at juno.com (dmesmg at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 21:52:25 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] - P6 3500 S in FL
Message-ID: <20120118.185235.1668.11738@mailpop08.vgs.untd.com>
>From the photos, it appears to be a Series II 3500S in left hand drive?
(UK/European spec bumpers, Series II bonnet). Must be a rare bird with
this specification in North America?
Best regards,
Dan
____________________________________________________________
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The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried
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From adrian.mcdonald at live.com Wed Jan 18 21:16:40 2012
From: adrian.mcdonald at live.com (Adrian McDonald)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 19:16:40 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Universal Joint
In-Reply-To: <SNT105-W537BFCFBDDD1253CAD54658E860@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.3.1326909604.20811.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>,
<SNT105-W537BFCFBDDD1253CAD54658E860@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU154-W118FC5F55554A56017EAD39E860@phx.gbl>
James
Nice work!! When I wrote 3500s I meant to say 2000 anyway now I think about it. Should be easy and cheap to get hold of this. May finish the wheel project just in time for the implementation of fusion power in the home and automobile......
Cheers
Adrian
> From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 21:05:45 -0500
> Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Universal Joint
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > Hi there
> >
> > In my eternal wire wheel swap project, the latest casualty is the universal joint on the wheel hub. Anyone in N. America have one of these, before I go to the usual suspects in the UK?
> >
> > I am seemingly on a mission to sequentially destroy every part that is directly or indirectly involved with swapping to wire wheels while undertaking the task. At this point, it is becoming a bit frustrating!
> >
> > Adrian
> >
>
> I think that this joint is a Dana Spicer 5-178X. That is what I have listed for the Rover 2000. I am pretty sure that the 3500's are the same.
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dana-Spicer-universal-joint-5-178X-/120840827512?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item1c22acb278
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From kkinard at att.net Wed Jan 18 21:41:29 2012
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 21:41:29 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] - P6 3500 S in FL
In-Reply-To: <20120118.185235.1668.11738@mailpop08.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20120118.185235.1668.11738@mailpop08.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <4F1790E9.7080705@att.net>
Hi Dan,
Something is wrong here. I didn't get the original post about a 3500S in
Florida.
Anyway, unless it is the blue one from Arkansas, there is another in the
states. The one in Arkansas was an Italian market car purchased by a
serviceman stationed in Italy. As far as I know, he still owns the car.
Where was the pic posted?
Roverly,
Kent K.
dmesmg at juno.com wrote:
> > From the photos, it appears to be a Series II 3500S in left hand drive?
>
>
> (UK/European spec bumpers, Series II bonnet). Must be a rare bird with
> this specification in North America?
>
> Best regards,
> Dan
> ____________________________________________________________
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From RoverP6 at gmx.de Wed Jan 18 23:24:16 2012
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 06:24:16 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet ] - P6 3500 S in FL
References: <20120118.185235.1668.11738@mailpop08.vgs.untd.com>
<4F1790E9.7080705@att.net>
Message-ID: <F196B7D362E547E8B0EF6B89B16FB255@rw>
Kent, look at http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=662251
Rudiger
www.RovrP6.info
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Von: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at att.net>
An: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. Januar 2012 04:41
Betreff: Re: [Rovernet ] - P6 3500 S in FL
Hi Dan,
Something is wrong here. I didn't get the original post about a 3500S in
Florida.
Anyway, unless it is the blue one from Arkansas, there is another in the
states. The one in Arkansas was an Italian market car purchased by a
serviceman stationed in Italy. As far as I know, he still owns the car.
Where was the pic posted?
Roverly,
Kent K.
dmesmg at juno.com wrote:
> > From the photos, it appears to be a Series II 3500S in left hand drive?
>
>
> (UK/European spec bumpers, Series II bonnet). Must be a rare bird with
> this specification in North America?
>
> Best regards,
> Dan
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From tom at rymes.net Sat Jan 21 18:05:10 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 19:05:10 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover SD1 3500 For Sale in Memphis, TN - $875
Message-ID: <FB3DDD5B-91B1-4D5D-A369-ACE9DE024FFF@rymes.net>
I have no connection to this car or the seller, but perhaps someone is interested in this?
http://www.carsforsale.com/used_cars_for_sale/1980_Rover_3500_132640659_1
Tom
From gyfrancis at adam.com.au Mon Jan 23 06:14:45 2012
From: gyfrancis at adam.com.au (Grant Francis)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 22:44:45 +1030
Subject: [Rovernet ] Ongoing P3 rebuild
Message-ID: <4F1D4F35.5070603@adam.com.au>
Morning all,
The continuation of the rebuild of this P3 75 6light from various crates
is progressing slowly but surely. Thanks to much assistance from
numerous people here.
The wiring is now FINISHED. All renewed front to back and many, many
bare shorted wires found in the process. Lucky it was not a BBQ P3. The
main battery cable was a challenge.
I am now stumped a tad with the seal?? between the water pump and the
alloy base that the thermostat sits in. The new water pump has a
threaded hole in top of the casting, and the alloy base has a hole that
is directly above this threaded pump hole. Obviously there is a seal of
some sort between the 2, but for the life of me I cannot get my head
around what it would be, or how it is held in place, I reckon something
is missing. The old water pump has a rusty "lump" of something in this
area, but of no real use, and the alloy base supplied is NOT from this
engine as that base was lost somewhere in the last 10 years. I have
thought of something threading down from inside the alloy housing into
the water pump and thus sealing the gap, but does not appear to be
correct thinking.
I did not dissmantle this car, and the guy that did does not remember
too much at all.
The workshop manual I have explains in detail that this alloy housing
MUST be removed before the water pump is removed, so that also indicates
something specific is in this gap??.
Thanks in advance for any light that may be shed.
Grant Francis
Adelaide
Stralia
From DevlinS at bp.com Mon Jan 23 09:00:40 2012
From: DevlinS at bp.com (Devlin, Stewart (Contractor))
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:00:40 -0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Ongoing P3 rebuild
References: <4F1D4F35.5070603@adam.com.au>
Message-ID: <BC57A162FD2A4C4795E8EDC23BF1AB7DE67062@bp1miois002.bp1.ad.bp.com>
....sorry Grant, typo, the part number of the rubber ring is 09170
Stewart
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca on behalf of Grant Francis
Sent: Mon 23/01/2012 12:14
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet ] Ongoing P3 rebuild
Morning all,
The continuation of the rebuild of this P3 75 6light from various crates
is progressing slowly but surely. Thanks to much assistance from
numerous people here.
The wiring is now FINISHED. All renewed front to back and many, many
bare shorted wires found in the process. Lucky it was not a BBQ P3. The
main battery cable was a challenge.
I am now stumped a tad with the seal?? between the water pump and the
alloy base that the thermostat sits in. The new water pump has a
threaded hole in top of the casting, and the alloy base has a hole that
is directly above this threaded pump hole. Obviously there is a seal of
some sort between the 2, but for the life of me I cannot get my head
around what it would be, or how it is held in place, I reckon something
is missing. The old water pump has a rusty "lump" of something in this
area, but of no real use, and the alloy base supplied is NOT from this
engine as that base was lost somewhere in the last 10 years. I have
thought of something threading down from inside the alloy housing into
the water pump and thus sealing the gap, but does not appear to be
correct thinking.
I did not dissmantle this car, and the guy that did does not remember
too much at all.
The workshop manual I have explains in detail that this alloy housing
MUST be removed before the water pump is removed, so that also indicates
something specific is in this gap??.
Thanks in advance for any light that may be shed.
Grant Francis
Adelaide
Stralia
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From DevlinS at bp.com Mon Jan 23 08:58:37 2012
From: DevlinS at bp.com (Devlin, Stewart (Contractor))
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 14:58:37 -0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Ongoing P3 rebuild
References: <4F1D4F35.5070603@adam.com.au>
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Hi Grant,
I don't remember the top of the pump being threaded, but it is a long time since I had mine apart. There is a big fat rubber ring sits between the two to form a seal, part number 08170, and according to the parts list a short length of copper tube, part number 09197, that appears to sit inside the ring. I don't remember seeing the short piece of copper tube and I can only think that it is there to stop the rubber seal from restricting the size of the passage when under pressure.
Best of luck,
Stewart Devlin
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca on behalf of Grant Francis
Sent: Mon 23/01/2012 12:14
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet ] Ongoing P3 rebuild
Morning all,
The continuation of the rebuild of this P3 75 6light from various crates
is progressing slowly but surely. Thanks to much assistance from
numerous people here.
The wiring is now FINISHED. All renewed front to back and many, many
bare shorted wires found in the process. Lucky it was not a BBQ P3. The
main battery cable was a challenge.
I am now stumped a tad with the seal?? between the water pump and the
alloy base that the thermostat sits in. The new water pump has a
threaded hole in top of the casting, and the alloy base has a hole that
is directly above this threaded pump hole. Obviously there is a seal of
some sort between the 2, but for the life of me I cannot get my head
around what it would be, or how it is held in place, I reckon something
is missing. The old water pump has a rusty "lump" of something in this
area, but of no real use, and the alloy base supplied is NOT from this
engine as that base was lost somewhere in the last 10 years. I have
thought of something threading down from inside the alloy housing into
the water pump and thus sealing the gap, but does not appear to be
correct thinking.
I did not dissmantle this car, and the guy that did does not remember
too much at all.
The workshop manual I have explains in detail that this alloy housing
MUST be removed before the water pump is removed, so that also indicates
something specific is in this gap??.
Thanks in advance for any light that may be shed.
Grant Francis
Adelaide
Stralia
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From bsaunders at firstva.com Mon Jan 23 09:47:40 2012
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 10:47:40 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Ongoing P3 rebuild
In-Reply-To: <4F1D4F35.5070603@adam.com.au>
References: <4F1D4F35.5070603@adam.com.au>
Message-ID: <AF7F5AF4F49E4CF98A2A9092084AE637@SD1>
Grant,
I used the battery lead from a P4 Rover and it ift fine. As for the water
pump problem, the 100 engine uses a small rubber ring between the two
housings which makes me feel that one cen be made from a small slice of
heater hose.
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Grant Francis
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 7:15 AM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet ] Ongoing P3 rebuild
Morning all,
The continuation of the rebuild of this P3 75 6light from various crates is
progressing slowly but surely. Thanks to much assistance from numerous
people here.
The wiring is now FINISHED. All renewed front to back and many, many bare
shorted wires found in the process. Lucky it was not a BBQ P3. The main
battery cable was a challenge.
I am now stumped a tad with the seal?? between the water pump and the alloy
base that the thermostat sits in. The new water pump has a threaded hole in
top of the casting, and the alloy base has a hole that is directly above
this threaded pump hole. Obviously there is a seal of some sort between the
2, but for the life of me I cannot get my head around what it would be, or
how it is held in place, I reckon something is missing. The old water pump
has a rusty "lump" of something in this area, but of no real use, and the
alloy base supplied is NOT from this engine as that base was lost somewhere
in the last 10 years. I have thought of something threading down from inside
the alloy housing into the water pump and thus sealing the gap, but does not
appear to be correct thinking.
I did not dissmantle this car, and the guy that did does not remember too
much at all.
The workshop manual I have explains in detail that this alloy housing MUST
be removed before the water pump is removed, so that also indicates
something specific is in this gap??.
Thanks in advance for any light that may be shed.
Grant Francis
Adelaide
Stralia
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From scottsoldautorubber at bigpond.com.au Mon Jan 23 16:05:53 2012
From: scottsoldautorubber at bigpond.com.au (Scott Richmond)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 09:05:53 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet ] Ongoing P3 rebuild
References: <4F1D4F35.5070603@adam.com.au>
Message-ID: <19904992B0294B10B75AF1B7A6A6DB04@userpc>
The pump does use a big "O" ring with a copper ring in the centre. we have
them if you can not get them closer.
Thankyou,
Scott.
www.facebook.com/pages/Scotts-Old-Auto-Rubber/148580078501350
New email address: scott at scottsoldautorubber.com.au
New postal address: P.O. Box 105, Mount Waverley 3149
www.scottsoldautorubber.com.au
Open 9 - 5.00 Monday to Friday.
Closed Saturday and Sunday.
Automotive Rubber and Seals for Many Makes and Models,
12 Haughton Road, Oakleigh, Melbourne 3166, Australia.
Phone and Fax: + 61- 3 - 9563 3023
http://www.xe.net/pca/ (Currency Converter)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Grant Francis" <gyfrancis at adam.com.au>
To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 11:14 PM
Subject: [Rovernet ] Ongoing P3 rebuild
>
> Morning all,
>
> The continuation of the rebuild of this P3 75 6light from various crates
> is progressing slowly but surely. Thanks to much assistance from numerous
> people here.
>
> The wiring is now FINISHED. All renewed front to back and many, many bare
> shorted wires found in the process. Lucky it was not a BBQ P3. The main
> battery cable was a challenge.
>
> I am now stumped a tad with the seal?? between the water pump and the
> alloy base that the thermostat sits in. The new water pump has a threaded
> hole in top of the casting, and the alloy base has a hole that is directly
> above this threaded pump hole. Obviously there is a seal of some sort
> between the 2, but for the life of me I cannot get my head around what it
> would be, or how it is held in place, I reckon something is missing. The
> old water pump has a rusty "lump" of something in this area, but of no
> real use, and the alloy base supplied is NOT from this engine as that base
> was lost somewhere in the last 10 years. I have thought of something
> threading down from inside the alloy housing into the water pump and thus
> sealing the gap, but does not appear to be correct thinking.
>
> I did not dissmantle this car, and the guy that did does not remember too
> much at all.
>
> The workshop manual I have explains in detail that this alloy housing MUST
> be removed before the water pump is removed, so that also indicates
> something specific is in this gap??.
>
> Thanks in advance for any light that may be shed.
>
> Grant Francis
> Adelaide
> Stralia
>
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From dburrowes at vy-tek.com Mon Jan 23 18:35:33 2012
From: dburrowes at vy-tek.com (Dirk Burrowes)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 19:35:33 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Digest, Vol 141, Issue 8
Message-ID: <20120123193201.21957@web001.nyc1.bluetie.com>
Hello Grant,
The original water pump was an aluminum casting. It had a threaded port with a recess that accepted a copper/brass threaded ring and protruded about 5 or 6 mm. It was designed to have a rubber ring/tube put around it to seal between the pump and the thermostat block. You need to have a tube between the the pump and the block or you will never seal this the union. I assume that you have a cast iron water pump from a Land Rover. You will be told there is no difference and this is incorrect. There is a difference in height from the original pump and the joining point to the thermostat block that will require you to extend the brass/copper nipple so it will go fully in to the thermostat block. I had to take the water pump on and off my P3 4 times to finally get a water tight seal.
Good Luck
Dirk in the States
www.Roveramerica.com
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From adrian.mcdonald at live.com Mon Jan 23 20:04:26 2012
From: adrian.mcdonald at live.com (Adrian McDonald)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 18:04:26 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Universal Joint
In-Reply-To: <526181751E6348AAB6DE2D7FE5A18D9E@SD1>
References: <BLU154-W371EB61662ED1A12F484DA9E800@phx.gbl>,
<526181751E6348AAB6DE2D7FE5A18D9E@SD1>
Message-ID: <BLU154-W55043ED3512EABFB649DE59E8B0@phx.gbl>
Something I thought would never happen: a P6 part off the shelf at Napa Auto Parts. Universal joint- Precision 331. Perfect!
The wire wheels are on! And they even go round. Now we will see if they stay on, next test.
Adrian
> From: bsaunders at firstva.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:42:27 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] 3500S Universal Joint
>
>
> I think Vern is correct. I got the drive shaft u-joints (Chevy) locally but
> the axel joints are larger so they will have a different match up. Take the
> old one with you to a car parts place where they repair cars. Let me know
> where you are and I will look to see what I have. I think all mine are on
> the axels if I have any spares.
>
> Ben
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
> Behalf Of Adrian McDonald
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:06 PM
> To: Rovernet
> Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Universal Joint
>
>
>
> Hi there
>
> In my eternal wire wheel swap project, the latest casualty is the universal
> joint on the wheel hub. Anyone in N. America have one of these, before I go
> to the usual suspects in the UK?
>
> I am seemingly on a mission to sequentially destroy every part that is
> directly or indirectly involved with swapping to wire wheels while
> undertaking the task. At this point, it is becoming a bit frustrating!
>
> Adrian
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From gyfrancis at adam.com.au Mon Jan 23 21:37:54 2012
From: gyfrancis at adam.com.au (Grant Francis)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 14:07:54 +1030
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Digest, Vol 141, Issue 8
In-Reply-To: <20120123193201.21957@web001.nyc1.bluetie.com>
References: <20120123193201.21957@web001.nyc1.bluetie.com>
Message-ID: <4F1E2792.3080301@adam.com.au>
Dirk,
You are spot on I reckon.
Yes, "same as Landrover", I have been told exactly that, so until now I
had no reason to doubt it. The 2 spare engines are both missing the
water pumps, and only one base is fitted, but it is real sad.
The old pump, or remains of same, are also cast iron, and it looks like
some bodged up "pipe" has been silver soldered into the top to achieve
what you say.
There is a huge amount of weeping witness corrosion on all the bases I
have, on the underside where that seal would normally sit/seal, so
repair will be needed, simple enough.
The thread is 1/2" UNF, with a machined flat surface cut into the cast
iron, just like a surface that uses a copper washer for sealing, and I
have found a threaded spigot in my Jag stuff that will maybe do the task
as I now understand it.
The thermostat is going to be fun, as it will need to block off this
spigot as it heats up, or the coolant will return to the suction side of
the water pump in lieu of going via the radiator. Passage of least
resistance. I will make a stat if I have to, again, no big deal.
Thanks again.
Grant from Downunder (43c today, NOT a Rover work day)
On 24/01/2012 11:05 AM, Dirk Burrowes wrote:
> Hello Grant,
>
> The original water pump was an aluminum casting. It had a threaded port with a recess that accepted a copper/brass threaded ring and protruded about 5 or 6 mm. It was designed to have a rubber ring/tube put around it to seal between the pump and the thermostat block. You need to have a tube between the the pump and the block or you will never seal this the union. I assume that you have a cast iron water pump from a Land Rover. You will be told there is no difference and this is incorrect. There is a difference in height from the original pump and the joining point to the thermostat block that will require you to extend the brass/copper nipple so it will go fully in to the thermostat block. I had to take the water pump on and off my P3 4 times to finally get a water tight seal.
>
> Good Luck
> Dirk in the States
> www.Roveramerica.com
>
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From david at davidwalter.net Mon Jan 23 22:58:48 2012
From: david at davidwalter.net (David Walter)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 20:58:48 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Universal Joint
In-Reply-To: <BLU154-W55043ED3512EABFB649DE59E8B0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU154-W371EB61662ED1A12F484DA9E800@phx.gbl>,
<526181751E6348AAB6DE2D7FE5A18D9E@SD1>
<BLU154-W55043ED3512EABFB649DE59E8B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <09B12CB2A7654E48B53F2FAB4E9A60E0@DavidPC>
Adrian,
make sure you knock the hub nuts on really tight, when I first did mine I
though they were tight and they were, but not tight enough, I still love my
wire wheels
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian McDonald" <adrian.mcdonald at live.com>
To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] 3500S Universal Joint
>
> Something I thought would never happen: a P6 part off the shelf at Napa
> Auto Parts. Universal joint- Precision 331. Perfect!
>
> The wire wheels are on! And they even go round. Now we will see if they
> stay on, next test.
>
> Adrian
>
>> From: bsaunders at firstva.com
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:42:27 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] 3500S Universal Joint
>>
>>
>> I think Vern is correct. I got the drive shaft u-joints (Chevy) locally
>> but
>> the axel joints are larger so they will have a different match up. Take
>> the
>> old one with you to a car parts place where they repair cars. Let me know
>> where you are and I will look to see what I have. I think all mine are on
>> the axels if I have any spares.
>>
>> Ben
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Adrian McDonald
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:06 PM
>> To: Rovernet
>> Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Universal Joint
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi there
>>
>> In my eternal wire wheel swap project, the latest casualty is the
>> universal
>> joint on the wheel hub. Anyone in N. America have one of these, before I
>> go
>> to the usual suspects in the UK?
>>
>> I am seemingly on a mission to sequentially destroy every part that is
>> directly or indirectly involved with swapping to wire wheels while
>> undertaking the task. At this point, it is becoming a bit frustrating!
>>
>> Adrian
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From adrian.mcdonald at live.com Tue Jan 24 10:53:13 2012
From: adrian.mcdonald at live.com (Adrian McDonald)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 08:53:13 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Universal Joint
In-Reply-To: <09B12CB2A7654E48B53F2FAB4E9A60E0@DavidPC>
References: <BLU154-W371EB61662ED1A12F484DA9E800@phx.gbl>, ,
<526181751E6348AAB6DE2D7FE5A18D9E@SD1>,
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The last thing I need is to have to replace another bloody hub if the splines get damaged. I will up the level of violence on the hammer. I can't say that they are too hard to knock off right now so maybe I need to up the ante.
But then I only drive that car rarely, about as far from daily driver as possible without using the word "museum".
Wire wheels are the best on the sixties cars. The only thing I need to make my car more sixties is zircon blue, but that is a lottery win away .....
Adrian
Cheers
Adrian
> From: david at davidwalter.net
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 20:58:48 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] 3500S Universal Joint
>
>
> Adrian,
>
> make sure you knock the hub nuts on really tight, when I first did mine I
> though they were tight and they were, but not tight enough, I still love my
> wire wheels
>
> David
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adrian McDonald" <adrian.mcdonald at live.com>
> To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 6:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] 3500S Universal Joint
>
>
> >
> > Something I thought would never happen: a P6 part off the shelf at Napa
> > Auto Parts. Universal joint- Precision 331. Perfect!
> >
> > The wire wheels are on! And they even go round. Now we will see if they
> > stay on, next test.
> >
> > Adrian
> >
> >> From: bsaunders at firstva.com
> >> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> >> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:42:27 -0500
> >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] 3500S Universal Joint
> >>
> >>
> >> I think Vern is correct. I got the drive shaft u-joints (Chevy) locally
> >> but
> >> the axel joints are larger so they will have a different match up. Take
> >> the
> >> old one with you to a car parts place where they repair cars. Let me know
> >> where you are and I will look to see what I have. I think all mine are on
> >> the axels if I have any spares.
> >>
> >> Ben
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> >> On
> >> Behalf Of Adrian McDonald
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:06 PM
> >> To: Rovernet
> >> Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Universal Joint
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi there
> >>
> >> In my eternal wire wheel swap project, the latest casualty is the
> >> universal
> >> joint on the wheel hub. Anyone in N. America have one of these, before I
> >> go
> >> to the usual suspects in the UK?
> >>
> >> I am seemingly on a mission to sequentially destroy every part that is
> >> directly or indirectly involved with swapping to wire wheels while
> >> undertaking the task. At this point, it is becoming a bit frustrating!
> >>
> >> Adrian
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From adrian.mcdonald at live.com Wed Jan 25 20:22:27 2012
From: adrian.mcdonald at live.com (Adrian McDonald)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 18:22:27 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] misscuff
Message-ID: <BLU154-W429BCD3871D3AE257D85689E890@phx.gbl>
Dear Sir or Madam:
http://anneketepper.nl/woaint.php?dycelinkFriend=15
Thu, 26 Jan 2012 3:22:26
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From adrian.mcdonald at live.com Thu Jan 26 09:36:49 2012
From: adrian.mcdonald at live.com (Adrian McDonald)
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 07:36:49 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] misscuff
In-Reply-To: <BLU154-W429BCD3871D3AE257D85689E890@phx.gbl>
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All
As you probably realized, this was generated automatically using my email account by some pointless individual with nothing better to do.
I have not opened it and I recommend you do not either.
Adrian
> From: adrian.mcdonald at live.com
> Subject: [Rovernet ] misscuff
>
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From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Wed Jan 25 17:29:23 2012
From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 18:29:23 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Delayed and missing messages?
In-Reply-To: <BLU157-W19503879637D8758D273E1B8A10@phx.gbl>
References: <20111217.075945.1645.128653@mailpop21.vgs.untd.com>
<BLU157-W19503879637D8758D273E1B8A10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4F209053.2030600@alum.swarthmore.edu>
The email below just arrived from last year in my inbox today, and it
seems that a few other emails in various other threads have been missing
or delayed lately. Is anyone else seeing this, and does anyone know
what might be causing it?
--Steve Manwell
P.S. I haven't been too active on Rovernet lately, but happy 2012
Roving everyone.
On 12/17/2011 12:26 PM, Richard Sharpe wrote:
>
> My understanding is that the UK banger brigade argue that the cars they use are rusted relics that have no chance of passing a mandated roadworthy inspection [MOT] for use on public roads. UK Practical Classics mag led a bit of a crusade some years ago against this activity in the wake of revelations that crims associated with banger racing were pinching good quality / restored heavy metal classics specifically to meet the demand for bangers. One of their editors apparently lost a mint Ford Granada Mk1 in this way and for this purpose.
> With reference to the video clip: sad to see what looks like a Jaguar MkVII at 0:50 [these epitomized top of the range motoring in the mid-1950's] and it's gut wrenching to see a genuine rare bird in the form of a P6 station-wagon on the chopping block.
> Here in NZ, the local speedway hosted a "demolition derby" as part of an evening's entertainment. After watching a straight-panel P4 getting its quietus, I vowed never to boycott this venue - a vow kept for 12 years and counting.
>
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:59:07 -0500
>> From: dmesmg at juno.com
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Banger Racing
>>
>>
>> Hello Lance, Rudiger, and everyone,
>> I also found the video to be an unfortunate practice. Is this 'banger
>> racing' of classic era cars continuing in the UK these days?
>>
>> It has been many years since I attended a 'demolition derby' (banger
>> racing equivalent) here in the States. I remember at that time, the
>> entrants were seeking out the full sized Chevrolets, Buicks, Cadillacs,
>> and Mercurys as they were strongest platforms and held up best in the
>> numerous collisions. Presumably the Rovers and Humbers, etc are much the
>> same in the UK.
>>
>> The sounds and smells of the engines and autoboxes burning themselves up
>> with ruptured cooling lines as the entrants tried to keep them moving
>> ---well, it isn't too consistent with my interest in classic cars.
>>
>> Dan
>> ____________________________________________________________
>> 60-Year-Old Mom Looks 27
>> Mom Reveals Free Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors!
>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4eecbc9cc34c424bcffst02vuc
>>
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From geffandjulie at comcast.net Wed Jan 25 06:47:20 2012
From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 04:47:20 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] Marie Wolfe's email, Slats' cars
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References: <4F0E1714.9000003@att.net>
Message-ID: <005c01ccdb5f$7adb7300$70925900$@net>
Kent, I emailed her and have not heard back. Would you have an address or
phone? I might like the P5.
AvMedSafe
Geoffrey W. McCarthy MD MBA DipAvMed
677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR USA 97210
503-241-8468(h) 503-799-3809 (mobile)
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Kent Kinard
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 3:11 PM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.; slatsrie at comcast.net
Subject: [Rovernet ] Marie Wolfe's email, Slats' cars
Hi Netters,
For those of you waiting to get in touch with Slats' wife, Marie, you
can copy her address from this email.
Marie is hoping for help in disposing of Slats cars, including the P5
Mk. II Automatic. She would like some help from the RCCC establishing a
fair price for the Rover. I will not offer an opinion since I know a
potential buyer and do not wish to put him in touch with Marie until
there is an accurate estimate of the car's value.
Marie is located just north of Portland, OR, across the river in
Washington state.
Roverly,
Kent K.
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From kkinard at att.net Thu Jan 26 17:22:22 2012
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 17:22:22 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] Delayed and missing messages?
In-Reply-To: <4F209053.2030600@alum.swarthmore.edu>
References: <20111217.075945.1645.128653@mailpop21.vgs.untd.com> <BLU157-W19503879637D8758D273E1B8A10@phx.gbl>
<4F209053.2030600@alum.swarthmore.edu>
Message-ID: <4F21E02E.8000301@att.net>
Hi Steve,
I have suspected that some are dropped or delayed. I got the second post
on one thread, but never got the first.
Roverly,
Kent K.
S Manwell wrote:
>
> The email below just arrived from last year in my inbox today, and it
> seems that a few other emails in various other threads have been
> missing or delayed lately. Is anyone else seeing this, and does anyone
> know what might be causing it?
>
> --Steve Manwell
>
> P.S. I haven't been too active on Rovernet lately, but happy 2012
> Roving everyone.
>
>
> On 12/17/2011 12:26 PM, Richard Sharpe wrote:
>>
>> My understanding is that the UK banger brigade argue that the cars
>> they use are rusted relics that have no chance of passing a mandated
>> roadworthy inspection [MOT] for use on public roads. UK Practical
>> Classics mag led a bit of a crusade some years ago against this
>> activity in the wake of revelations that crims associated with banger
>> racing were pinching good quality / restored heavy metal classics
>> specifically to meet the demand for bangers. One of their editors
>> apparently lost a mint Ford Granada Mk1 in this way and for this
>> purpose.
>> With reference to the video clip: sad to see what looks like a Jaguar
>> MkVII at 0:50 [these epitomized top of the range motoring in the
>> mid-1950's] and it's gut wrenching to see a genuine rare bird in the
>> form of a P6 station-wagon on the chopping block.
>> Here in NZ, the local speedway hosted a "demolition derby" as part of
>> an evening's entertainment. After watching a straight-panel P4
>> getting its quietus, I vowed never to boycott this venue - a vow kept
>> for 12 years and counting.
>>
>>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>>> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:59:07 -0500
>>> From: dmesmg at juno.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Banger Racing
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Lance, Rudiger, and everyone,
>>> I also found the video to be an unfortunate practice. Is this 'banger
>>> racing' of classic era cars continuing in the UK these days?
>>>
>>> It has been many years since I attended a 'demolition derby' (banger
>>> racing equivalent) here in the States. I remember at that time, the
>>> entrants were seeking out the full sized Chevrolets, Buicks, Cadillacs,
>>> and Mercurys as they were strongest platforms and held up best in the
>>> numerous collisions. Presumably the Rovers and Humbers, etc are much
>>> the
>>> same in the UK.
>>>
>>> The sounds and smells of the engines and autoboxes burning
>>> themselves up
>>> with ruptured cooling lines as the entrants tried to keep them moving
>>> ---well, it isn't too consistent with my interest in classic cars.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>> 60-Year-Old Mom Looks 27
>>> Mom Reveals Free Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors!
>>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4eecbc9cc34c424bcffst02vuc
>>>
>>> **************************************
>>> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
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From adrian.mcdonald at live.com Sun Jan 29 10:21:49 2012
From: adrian.mcdonald at live.com (Adrian McDonald)
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 08:21:49 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] william_taylor47
Message-ID: <BLU154-W969082CC17EDFAEFA09119E8C0@phx.gbl>
Hi! Only for you!
http://landentools.com/gorecceb.php?cominID=83
Sun, 29 Jan 2012 17:21:49
_________________________________
"Just at this moment Caleb came in, bringing his plate of apples, with an air of great importance and satisfaction." (c) Shaelina vypisi
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From hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu Sun Jan 29 13:17:35 2012
From: hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu (Henry Manwell)
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 14:17:35 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] william_taylor47
In-Reply-To: <BLU154-W969082CC17EDFAEFA09119E8C0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU154-W969082CC17EDFAEFA09119E8C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BC434018-AF9B-4EE5-8F77-ABDF3E42D27E@alumni.bates.edu>
Turns out the link here is a scam..........at least as it came in to my computer.
Hank
On Jan 29, 2012, at 11:21 AM, Adrian McDonald wrote:
>
> Hi! Only for you!
> http://landentools.com/gorecceb.php?cominID=83
>
>
> Sun, 29 Jan 2012 17:21:49
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From tom at rymes.net Sun Jan 29 13:27:07 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 14:27:07 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] william_taylor47
In-Reply-To: <BC434018-AF9B-4EE5-8F77-ABDF3E42D27E@alumni.bates.edu>
References: <BLU154-W969082CC17EDFAEFA09119E8C0@phx.gbl>
<BC434018-AF9B-4EE5-8F77-ABDF3E42D27E@alumni.bates.edu>
Message-ID: <9B20FBAD-9712-4CF7-9E2A-187603A9FADD@rymes.net>
On Jan 29, 2012, at 2:17 PM, Henry Manwell wrote:
>
> Turns out the link here is a scam..........at least as it came in to my computer.
>
> Hank
Hank, et al:
Most of you already know this, but if you see an e-mail that only has a link in it and no text to describe it and tell you what it is, it's 99% certain to be a scam. Just delete it and move on!
Tom
From adrian.mcdonald at live.com Mon Jan 30 17:14:15 2012
From: adrian.mcdonald at live.com (Adrian McDonald)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:14:15 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] msaquarius425
Message-ID: <BLU154-W21E7CFA08CE13844082A9E9E8D0@phx.gbl>
Please, accept my best wishes!
http://itsmf.biz/bbpoeb.php?jzarankpage=79
Tue, 31 Jan 2012 0:14:12
_____________________
"Come, you give him to me, and I will give you my flag-staff." (c) Caylah wgheath
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From adrian.mcdonald at live.com Tue Jan 31 00:37:18 2012
From: adrian.mcdonald at live.com (Adrian McDonald)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:37:18 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] william_taylor47
In-Reply-To: <9B20FBAD-9712-4CF7-9E2A-187603A9FADD@rymes.net>
References: <BLU154-W969082CC17EDFAEFA09119E8C0@phx.gbl>,
<BC434018-AF9B-4EE5-8F77-ABDF3E42D27E@alumni.bates.edu>,
<9B20FBAD-9712-4CF7-9E2A-187603A9FADD@rymes.net>
Message-ID: <BLU154-W359A8547415E3A17BC95929E720@phx.gbl>
All
Do not open any more emails from my email address. After several years of trouble free computing I have finally been got by the sad losers who waster their time wasting other peoples time. I will have to wipe my computer and start again as obviously my lack of virus software has caused an issue.
Sorry for the inconvenience, but of course it has nothing whatsoever to do with me as I have better things to do with my time....
Adrian
> From: tom at rymes.net
> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 14:27:07 -0500
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] william_taylor47
>
>
> On Jan 29, 2012, at 2:17 PM, Henry Manwell wrote:
>
> >
> > Turns out the link here is a scam..........at least as it came in to my computer.
> >
> > Hank
>
> Hank, et al:
>
> Most of you already know this, but if you see an e-mail that only has a link in it and no text to describe it and tell you what it is, it's 99% certain to be a scam. Just delete it and move on!
>
> Tom
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