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From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Sat Aug 4 08:48:37 2012
From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson)
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 14:48:37 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Power steering fluid
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I know from reading that Redline MTL is best for the manual gearbox ( i have a 5 speed conversion in one of my 3500S) but what is the best power steering fluid to use
ThanksBill Robertson
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From lafbery at shaw.ca Sat Aug 4 13:19:24 2012
From: lafbery at shaw.ca (Barry Lafbery)
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 12:19:24 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Power steering fluid
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When I had my 3500s I used red ATV had no problems.
Barry
I know from reading that Redline MTL is best for the manual gearbox ( i have
a 5 speed conversion in one of my 3500S) but what is the best power steering
fluid to use
ThanksBill Robertson
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From Nash4447 at cs.com Sat Aug 4 21:46:18 2012
From: Nash4447 at cs.com (Nash4447 at cs.com)
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 23:46:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Power steering fluid
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Type F should be used in Borg Warner auto trannies.
Glenn Los Angeles
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From james.moison at gmail.com Sat Aug 4 22:17:34 2012
From: james.moison at gmail.com (james moison)
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 22:17:34 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Power steering fluid
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Most people of that era use ATF. However, I have always used conventional
power steering fluid. More expensive but designed for the application.
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Barry Lafbery <lafbery at shaw.ca> wrote:
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> When I had my 3500s I used red ATV had no problems.
>
> Barry
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> I know from reading that Redline MTL is best for the manual gearbox ( i
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From RoverP6 at gmx.de Tue Aug 7 05:51:28 2012
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 13:51:28 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2x P6 / USA
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/eduardoolivera/7713525962/
Known on Rovernet ?
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info
From tom at rymes.net Tue Aug 7 08:24:53 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2012 10:24:53 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2x P6 / USA
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I added an English translation for anyone who was interested. The pair
is/was owned by a married couple.
Tom
On 08/07/2012 7:51 AM, RoverP6 at gmx.de wrote:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/eduardoolivera/7713525962/
>
> Known on Rovernet ?
>
> Rudiger
> www.RoverP6.info
From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Tue Aug 7 16:45:18 2012
From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (Steve Manwell)
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2012 18:45:18 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2x P6 / USA
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Hi Tom and Rudiger,
News travels around the world fast these days...
These are Charlie Stutt's Rovers on display this past Saturday at the
Hemmings Sports and Exotic show in Saratoga Springs, NY.
We had a little Rover get-together at the show including Dirk Burrowes
who brought his Rover bicycles and his 105R, Stephen Beer who has a P2
and P6, and myself. I went over in a modern car and drove one of
Charlie's Rovers. I had his green 1968 2000TC on the way up and he
drove the April Yellow 1967 2000 Automatic that had been his wife's
car. I had driven various TC's in the past, but I drove the automatic
later in the day and found it to be a very pleasant drive. Both of
these 2000's have over 200,000 miles on them.
Charlie has attended nearly every Rover event in the Northeast in one or
the other, and sometimes both, of these Rovers over the past dozen or so
years, but couldn't make it to this year's RoveAmerica, so we enjoyed
catching up with him this weekend.
Steve Manwell
On 8/7/2012 10:24 AM, Tom Rymes wrote:
>
> I added an English translation for anyone who was interested. The pair
> is/was owned by a married couple.
>
> Tom
>
> On 08/07/2012 7:51 AM, RoverP6 at gmx.de wrote:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/eduardoolivera/7713525962/
>>
>> Known on Rovernet ?
>>
>> Rudiger
>> www.RoverP6.info
>
>
> **************************************
> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
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From gbbourque at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 18:48:51 2012
From: gbbourque at gmail.com (garrett bourque)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 20:48:51 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2x P6 / USA
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Hello Rovernet,
I am glad that everyone had fun at the car show in Saratoga Springs. I
actually used to live there for a year or two when I was little, before my
family moved to Maine.
I am having a very busy automotive summer. My father and I have our '56
Porsche Speedster on the road for the first time after a very long
restoration. My mother rode to the hospital to have me in 1967 in this
car! This is the car that got me into cars, since I used to play in it
after it was in storage on our farm and taken off the road, when I was
little.
I am building, in my business, a 109 Land Rover station wagon for a
customer, from scratch, on a new galvanized frame. I expect to finish it
over the winter. The owner bought a huge number of new body panels, before
he came to me, as he found them available over time, so it should be quite
nice when it is finished.
My Rover '70 3500S is driving beautifully! It has been the most
dependable, satisfuing to drive car that I have owned in a long time!!
I am rebuilding the engine in my '94 Volvo 960, 6 cylinder station
wagon. It is a nice old car, with very little body rust, that I have
gotten sort of attached to over time, so I decided to freshen up the
engine.
The Jag 3.8 SType and my extended cab Land Rover pickup, both of which I
restored, have been receiving some attention as neither were in serious use
last summer. The Jag had a starter problem and the Land Rover has a
steering shimmy that I am on my way to curing.
Since I proposed the question at the Rover gathering, "How many Rovers
did everyone own?" I figured that I should level with everyone and explain
what has been keeping me busy up here in Maine lately. My best to everyone
and have a great summer! Garrett Bourque
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Steve Manwell <s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu
> wrote:
>
> Hi Tom and Rudiger,
>
> News travels around the world fast these days...
>
> These are Charlie Stutt's Rovers on display this past Saturday at the
> Hemmings Sports and Exotic show in Saratoga Springs, NY.
>
> We had a little Rover get-together at the show including Dirk Burrowes who
> brought his Rover bicycles and his 105R, Stephen Beer who has a P2 and P6,
> and myself. I went over in a modern car and drove one of Charlie's Rovers.
> I had his green 1968 2000TC on the way up and he drove the April Yellow
> 1967 2000 Automatic that had been his wife's car. I had driven various
> TC's in the past, but I drove the automatic later in the day and found it
> to be a very pleasant drive. Both of these 2000's have over 200,000 miles
> on them.
>
> Charlie has attended nearly every Rover event in the Northeast in one or
> the other, and sometimes both, of these Rovers over the past dozen or so
> years, but couldn't make it to this year's RoveAmerica, so we enjoyed
> catching up with him this weekend.
>
> Steve Manwell
>
>
>
> On 8/7/2012 10:24 AM, Tom Rymes wrote:
>
>>
>> I added an English translation for anyone who was interested. The pair
>> is/was owned by a married couple.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> On 08/07/2012 7:51 AM, RoverP6 at gmx.de wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**eduardoolivera/7713525962/<http://www.flickr.com/photos/eduardoolivera/7713525962/>
>>>
>>> Known on Rovernet ?
>>>
>>> Rudiger
>>> www.RoverP6.info <http://www.roverp6.info/>
>>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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From kkinard at att.net Tue Aug 7 19:33:56 2012
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2012 20:33:56 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] How many Rovers?
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Hi Garrett,
Having missed the gathering (our second grandson of the summer arrived
two weeks ago), I was unaware that you asked the question. My answer is:
1-P4, 3-Mk 5, 1-P5B, 5-P6, 5-P6B, 3-SD1, 4-RRClassic...but most are
junk. Only 6 restorations in progress. I swear I'm going to retire next
June....yes, you've heard that before.
Roverepeatedly,
Kent Kinard
garrett bourque wrote:
> Hello Rovernet,
> I am glad that everyone had fun at the car show in Saratoga Springs. I
> actually used to live there for a year or two when I was little, before my
> family moved to Maine.
> I am having a very busy automotive summer. My father and I have our '56
> Porsche Speedster on the road for the first time after a very long
> restoration. My mother rode to the hospital to have me in 1967 in this
> car! This is the car that got me into cars, since I used to play in it
> after it was in storage on our farm and taken off the road, when I was
> little.
> I am building, in my business, a 109 Land Rover station wagon for a
> customer, from scratch, on a new galvanized frame. I expect to finish it
> over the winter. The owner bought a huge number of new body panels, before
> he came to me, as he found them available over time, so it should be quite
> nice when it is finished.
> My Rover '70 3500S is driving beautifully! It has been the most
> dependable, satisfuing to drive car that I have owned in a long time!!
> I am rebuilding the engine in my '94 Volvo 960, 6 cylinder station
> wagon. It is a nice old car, with very little body rust, that I have
> gotten sort of attached to over time, so I decided to freshen up the
> engine.
> The Jag 3.8 SType and my extended cab Land Rover pickup, both of which I
> restored, have been receiving some attention as neither were in serious use
> last summer. The Jag had a starter problem and the Land Rover has a
> steering shimmy that I am on my way to curing.
> Since I proposed the question at the Rover gathering, "How many Rovers
> did everyone own?" I figured that I should level with everyone and explain
> what has been keeping me busy up here in Maine lately. My best to everyone
> and have a great summer! Garrett Bourque
>
> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Steve Manwell <s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu
>> wrote:
>> Hi Tom and Rudiger,
>>
>> News travels around the world fast these days...
>>
>> These are Charlie Stutt's Rovers on display this past Saturday at the
>> Hemmings Sports and Exotic show in Saratoga Springs, NY.
>>
>> We had a little Rover get-together at the show including Dirk Burrowes who
>> brought his Rover bicycles and his 105R, Stephen Beer who has a P2 and P6,
>> and myself. I went over in a modern car and drove one of Charlie's Rovers.
>> I had his green 1968 2000TC on the way up and he drove the April Yellow
>> 1967 2000 Automatic that had been his wife's car. I had driven various
>> TC's in the past, but I drove the automatic later in the day and found it
>> to be a very pleasant drive. Both of these 2000's have over 200,000 miles
>> on them.
>>
>> Charlie has attended nearly every Rover event in the Northeast in one or
>> the other, and sometimes both, of these Rovers over the past dozen or so
>> years, but couldn't make it to this year's RoveAmerica, so we enjoyed
>> catching up with him this weekend.
>>
>> Steve Manwell
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/7/2012 10:24 AM, Tom Rymes wrote:
>>
>>> I added an English translation for anyone who was interested. The pair
>>> is/was owned by a married couple.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> On 08/07/2012 7:51 AM, RoverP6 at gmx.de wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**eduardoolivera/7713525962/<http://www.flickr.com/photos/eduardoolivera/7713525962/>
>>>>
>>>> Known on Rovernet ?
>>>>
>>>> Rudiger
>>>> www.RoverP6.info <http://www.roverp6.info/>
>>>>
>>>
>>> ****************************************
>>> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
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>>>
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From esailer at snet.net Tue Aug 7 19:46:43 2012
From: esailer at snet.net (Ted Sailer)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 18:46:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2x P6 / USA
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Sent from my iPad
On Aug 7, 2012, at 6:45 PM, Steve Manwell <s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu> wrote:
Hi Tom and Rudiger,
News travels around the world fast these days...
These are Charlie Stutt's Rovers on display this past Saturday at the Hemmings Sports and Exotic show in Saratoga Springs, NY.
We had a little Rover get-together at the show including Dirk Burrowes who brought his Rover bicycles and his 105R, Stephen Beer who has a P2 and P6, and myself. I went over in a modern car and drove one of Charlie's Rovers. I had his green 1968 2000TC on the way up and he drove the April Yellow 1967 2000 Automatic that had been his wife's car. I had driven various TC's in the past, but I drove the automatic later in the day and found it to be a very pleasant drive. Both of these 2000's have over 200,000 miles on them.
Charlie has attended nearly every Rover event in the Northeast in one or the other, and sometimes both, of these Rovers over the past dozen or so years, but couldn't make it to this year's RoveAmerica, so we enjoyed catching up with him this weekend.
Steve Manwell
On 8/7/2012 10:24 AM, Tom Rymes wrote:
I added an English translation for anyone who was interested. The pair is/was owned by a married couple.
Tom
On 08/07/2012 7:51 AM, RoverP6 at gmx.de wrote:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/eduardoolivera/7713525962/
Known on Rovernet ?
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info
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From tom at rymes.net Wed Aug 8 07:04:59 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2012 09:04:59 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] A Little Good News, A Little Bad News...
Message-ID: <502263FB.80900@rymes.net>
I sent this before with a picture, but that was too big, so here goes again:
Good news first: I finally got the car back together, and the automatic transmission cable adjusted. Cleaned the car up a bit, borrowed a shooting location (no, that's not my house!), and took some photos of the P5 today. I am seriously considering selling the car, so I'm glad to have photos for posterity and future listings. It has been really nice having the car cleaned up and together, plus the extra confidence of knowing that the transmission is adjusted properly.
Here's a link to the unedited photos (lots of redundant shots!):https://picasaweb.google.com/rymes60/RoverP5August2012?authuser=0&feat=directlink
The BAD news: being a fool, I somehow managed to put the car in park while still in motion. It's a long story and I am ashamed to admit it....
Anyhow, the expected result (a broken parking pawl in the transmission) seems to have resulted (modern transmissions are more forgiving in this arena, I think). CRAP!!!!!! Just when I thought I wasn't going to have to remove the transmission! Maybe it's a sign...
Tom
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From tom at rymes.net Thu Aug 9 15:47:04 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 17:47:04 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] P5: Sidelights with headlights?
Message-ID: <D9EF3E34-72E2-4504-B9FD-98ADB6D4A654@rymes.net>
So, I was reading the owner's manual for my P5 today and it mentioned that NADA cars are wired to switch off the sidelights when the headlights are on. I also noticed that they mention that the headlight switch is three position (sidelights/off/headlights), but my car is only two position (on/off). It seemed to me that the home market cars (and non-NADA exports) were wired such that the sidelights would be on with the headlights.
Personally, I would like to have the sidelights on with the headlights, both for looks, and also so the red corner markers are illuminated at night. Has anyone done this before?
Many thanks,
Tom
From dmaxwell at as.net Thu Aug 9 16:47:16 2012
From: dmaxwell at as.net (dmaxwell at as.net)
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 15:47:16 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] P5: Sidelights with headlights?
Message-ID: <50243df4.7a72.b5a35b90.5b63f994@as.net>
Hi Tom,
If I remember right (and it's been 15 years since I've had the
lights on), when the headlights are on, the side lights (on either
side of the fender but not the ones with the red crystal indicators)
are off as they are the turn lights. If I move the stalk lever (not
to be confused with the turn lever or the overdrive lever), the
headlights go out and the round lights above the headlight (with the
red crystal indicators) come on. I may be wrong about this and am
ready to be corrected about this.
David
>
> --- Original message ---
> Subject: [Rovernet ] P5: Sidelights with headlights?
> From: Tom Rymes <tom at rymes.net>
> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Date: Thursday, 08/09/2012 15:10
>
>
> So, I was reading the owner's manual for my P5 today and it mentioned
> that NADA cars are wired to switch off the sidelights when the
> headlights are on. I also noticed that they mention that the headlight
> switch is three position (sidelights/off/headlights), but my car is
> only two position (on/off). It seemed to me that the home market cars
> (and non-NADA exports) were wired such that the sidelights would be on
> with the headlights.
>
> Personally, I would like to have the sidelights on with the
> headlights, both for looks, and also so the red corner markers are
> illuminated at night. Has anyone done this before?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Tom
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From tom at rymes.net Thu Aug 9 20:54:37 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 22:54:37 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] P5: Sidelights with headlights?
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David,
My car currently works just as you describe. The manual implied that the home market cars leave the fender lights (with the red crystal indicator) illuminated when the headlights are on.
I was wondering if anyone here has modified their car to work this way.
Tom
On Aug 9, 2012, at 6:47 PM, dmaxwell at as.net wrote:
>
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> If I remember right (and it's been 15 years since I've had the lights on), when the headlights are on, the side lights (on either side of the fender but not the ones with the red crystal indicators) are off as they are the turn lights. If I move the stalk lever (not to be confused with the turn lever or the overdrive lever), the headlights go out and the round lights above the headlight (with the red crystal indicators) come on. I may be wrong about this and am ready to be corrected about this.
>
> David
>
>>
>> --- Original message ---
>> Subject: [Rovernet ] P5: Sidelights with headlights?
>> From: Tom Rymes <tom at rymes.net>
>> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>> Date: Thursday, 08/09/2012 15:10
>>
>>
>> So, I was reading the owner's manual for my P5 today and it mentioned that NADA cars are wired to switch off the sidelights when the headlights are on. I also noticed that they mention that the headlight switch is three position (sidelights/off/headlights), but my car is only two position (on/off). It seemed to me that the home market cars (and non-NADA exports) were wired such that the sidelights would be on with the headlights.
>>
>> Personally, I would like to have the sidelights on with the headlights, both for looks, and also so the red corner markers are illuminated at night. Has anyone done this before?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Tom
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From veetwinrider at yahoo.com Thu Aug 9 21:00:53 2012
From: veetwinrider at yahoo.com (roland)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 20:00:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] P5: Sidelights with headlights?
In-Reply-To: <9EB18A70-57AC-451C-8ED2-09441FF132BD@rymes.net>
Message-ID: <1344567653.79138.YahooMailClassic@web180514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
My old P5 also worked just either headlamps, or parking lamps, never both.
Roland
--- On Thu, 8/9/12, Tom Rymes <tom at rymes.net> wrote:
From: Tom Rymes <tom at rymes.net>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P5: Sidelights with headlights?
To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Date: Thursday, August 9, 2012, 7:54 PM
David,
My car currently works just as you describe. The manual implied that the home market cars leave the fender lights (with the red crystal indicator) illuminated when the headlights are on.
I was wondering if anyone here has modified their car to work this way.
Tom
On Aug 9, 2012, at 6:47 PM, dmaxwell at as.net wrote:
>
>
> Hi Tom,
>
>???If I remember right (and it's been 15 years since I've had the lights on), when the headlights are on, the side lights (on either side of the fender but not the ones with the red crystal indicators) are off as they are the turn lights.? If I move the stalk lever (not to be confused with the turn lever or the overdrive lever), the headlights go out and the round lights above the headlight (with the red crystal indicators) come on.? I may be wrong about this and am ready to be corrected about this.
>
> David
>
>>
>> --- Original message ---
>> Subject: [Rovernet ] P5: Sidelights with headlights?
>> From: Tom Rymes <tom at rymes.net>
>> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>> Date: Thursday, 08/09/2012 15:10
>>
>>
>> So, I was reading the owner's manual for my P5 today and it mentioned that NADA cars are wired to switch off the sidelights when the headlights are on. I also noticed that they mention that the headlight switch is three position (sidelights/off/headlights), but my car is only two position (on/off). It seemed to me that the home market cars (and non-NADA exports) were wired such that the sidelights would be on with the headlights.
>>
>> Personally, I would like to have the sidelights on with the headlights, both for looks, and also so the red corner markers are illuminated at night. Has anyone done this before?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Tom
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From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com Fri Aug 10 12:33:47 2012
From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe)
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 18:33:47 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] P5: Sidelights with headlights?
In-Reply-To: <D9EF3E34-72E2-4504-B9FD-98ADB6D4A654@rymes.net>
References: <D9EF3E34-72E2-4504-B9FD-98ADB6D4A654@rymes.net>
Message-ID: <BLU157-W579D257E686FCECAFED8CDB8B30@phx.gbl>
Standard British home market and Commonwealth wiring set up of the day - not just for P5's:1. Sidelights [red market] on, headlights off. Complies with old GB legislation associated with "lighting up time" - a designated time of the evening twilight through to morning dawn when it was obligatory for a moving vehicle to show lights fore and aft. [GB pocket diaries of the day used to carry lighting up tables for every season of the year.] Also put on when weather conditions were suitable [e.g. mist, fog, heavy drizzle in overcast].2. Sidelights [red marker] on, headlights on. Normal night time driving.3. Headlights cannot be on and sidelights off. Illegal in GB since sidelights mark the outer width of the vehicle to other road users and pedestrians.
Note:In the day it was illegal to park in a GB street after nightfall and not have a warning light glowing to mark the fore and aft right side of the vehicle. GB home cars were thus wired to use what were called "park lights" - the front and rear right hand sidelights only were illuminated. If not supplied with a switch setting specifically for the purpose, the typical way of switching these on was:1. Sidelight switch on.2. Move traffic indicator lever to "right turn".
> From: tom at rymes.net
> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 17:47:04 -0400
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet ] P5: Sidelights with headlights?
>
>
> So, I was reading the owner's manual for my P5 today and it mentioned that NADA cars are wired to switch off the sidelights when the headlights are on. I also noticed that they mention that the headlight switch is three position (sidelights/off/headlights), but my car is only two position (on/off). It seemed to me that the home market cars (and non-NADA exports) were wired such that the sidelights would be on with the headlights.
>
> Personally, I would like to have the sidelights on with the headlights, both for looks, and also so the red corner markers are illuminated at night. Has anyone done this before?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Tom
> **************************************
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From tom at rymes.net Fri Aug 10 14:35:53 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 16:35:53 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] P5: Sidelights with headlights?
In-Reply-To: <BLU157-W579D257E686FCECAFED8CDB8B30@phx.gbl>
References: <D9EF3E34-72E2-4504-B9FD-98ADB6D4A654@rymes.net>
<BLU157-W579D257E686FCECAFED8CDB8B30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <B1A86A2B-67D0-4496-9A4D-78B17E39519C@rymes.net>
Richard: Thanks for the details. It is my understanding that the requirement to leave lights on at night was the major reason for hand cranks persisting in the UK far longer than in the US, too.
I would presume that attaching the power feed to the sidelights to both sides of the column mounted switch would be all that is required to make the sidelights come on with the headlights. Am I missing something?
Tom
PS: I know that the US regs forbid more than 4 forward facing lights, but I wonder why the sidelights were made to turn off when the headlights are on in NADA cars.
On Aug 10, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Richard Sharpe <trowzerkoff at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Standard British home market and Commonwealth wiring set up of the day - not just for P5's:1. Sidelights [red market] on, headlights off. Complies with old GB legislation associated with "lighting up time" - a designated time of the evening twilight through to morning dawn when it was obligatory for a moving vehicle to show lights fore and aft. [GB pocket diaries of the day used to carry lighting up tables for every season of the year.] Also put on when weather conditions were suitable [e.g. mist, fog, heavy drizzle in overcast].2. Sidelights [red marker] on, headlights on. Normal night time driving.3. Headlights cannot be on and sidelights off. Illegal in GB since sidelights mark the outer width of the vehicle to other road users and pedestrians.
> Note:In the day it was illegal to park in a GB street after nightfall and not have a warning light glowing to mark the fore and aft right side of the vehicle. GB home cars were thus wired to use what were called "park lights" - the front and rear right hand sidelights only were illuminated. If not supplied with a switch setting specifically for the purpose, the typical way of switching these on was:1. Sidelight switch on.2. Move traffic indicator lever to "right turn".
>
>> From: tom at rymes.net
>> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 17:47:04 -0400
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Subject: [Rovernet ] P5: Sidelights with headlights?
>>
>>
>> So, I was reading the owner's manual for my P5 today and it mentioned that NADA cars are wired to switch off the sidelights when the headlights are on. I also noticed that they mention that the headlight switch is three position (sidelights/off/headlights), but my car is only two position (on/off). It seemed to me that the home market cars (and non-NADA exports) were wired such that the sidelights would be on with the headlights.
>>
>> Personally, I would like to have the sidelights on with the headlights, both for looks, and also so the red corner markers are illuminated at night. Has anyone done this before?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Tom
>> **************************************
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From bsaunders at firstva.com Thu Aug 16 05:37:32 2012
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 07:37:32 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover SD1
Message-ID: <DE91BF27B13449BE918273AB4554BD18@SD1>
Hello Rovernetters,
I have a 1980 Rover SD1 that is presently on the road but will be in need of
a clutch soon and could use a bit of body work as well. The interior is the
usual SD1 sun bleached tan now and has the proper cracked dash top. Door
cards are doing the factory flapping and the back deck cover returned to the
UK on it's own. Other than that the car is in fair shape. It is dark red and
running with a 4 barrel carbuetor. Please let me know if you are interested
and it comes with a matching parts car less drive train.
Cheers,
Ben
Ben & Cathy Saunders
P O Box 846
Columbia, Va. 23038
(434) 842-3667
From tom at rymes.net Sun Aug 19 10:20:14 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 12:20:14 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S FS in Minneapolis Area: $2,600
Message-ID: <10EC9BFE-E228-447E-815D-8027091BB902@rymes.net>
Found this on Craigslist. Looks like a good project for someone!
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/cto/3180857671.html
Tom
From kkinard at att.net Sun Aug 19 16:47:08 2012
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 17:47:08 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S FS in Minneapolis Area: $2,600
In-Reply-To: <10EC9BFE-E228-447E-815D-8027091BB902@rymes.net>
References: <10EC9BFE-E228-447E-815D-8027091BB902@rymes.net>
Message-ID: <50316CEC.9050603@att.net>
Tom Rymes wrote:
> Found this on Craigslist. Looks like a good project for someone!
>
> http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/cto/3180857671.html
>
> Tom
>
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>
Hi Tom,
I know this car. The same fellow I bought my P5B Coupe from years ago.
It is a nice car, but the last time I saw it, it had an Oldsmobile block
and heads underneath the Rover intake and carbs. I did a double take
when he popped the bonnet. I believe the man's name is John Sharp.
Really nice guy. It's been a long time since I have seen the
car...probably twelve or thirteen years...maybe more.
I'd rather have your P5 saloon.
Roverly,
Kent K.
From tom at rymes.net Sun Aug 19 17:18:38 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:18:38 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S FS in Minneapolis Area: $2,600
In-Reply-To: <50316CEC.9050603@att.net>
References: <10EC9BFE-E228-447E-815D-8027091BB902@rymes.net>
<50316CEC.9050603@att.net>
Message-ID: <1A95B494-DBBE-4496-B58B-B14DCC812E27@rymes.net>
On Aug 19, 2012, at 6:47 PM, Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> wrote:
>
> Tom Rymes wrote:
>> Found this on Craigslist. Looks like a good project for someone!
>>
>> http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/cto/3180857671.html
>>
>> Tom
>>
> Hi Tom,
> I know this car. The same fellow I bought my P5B Coupe from years ago. It is a nice car, but the last time I saw it, it had an Oldsmobile block and heads underneath the Rover intake and carbs. I did a double take when he popped the bonnet. I believe the man's name is John Sharp. Really nice guy. It's been a long time since I have seen the car...probably twelve or thirteen years...maybe more.
>
> I'd rather have your P5 saloon.
>
> Roverly,
> Kent K.
Kent,
Interesting. Sounds like it's screaming for a 4.x L Rover engine and 5-speed swap!
Tom
From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Sun Aug 19 19:51:30 2012
From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (Steve Manwell)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 21:51:30 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] More Rovers for sale on Craigslist
In-Reply-To: <10EC9BFE-E228-447E-815D-8027091BB902@rymes.net>
References: <10EC9BFE-E228-447E-815D-8027091BB902@rymes.net>
Message-ID: <50319822.5080600@alum.swarthmore.edu>
1968 2000 Automatic
http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/cto/3159499704.html
1970 3500S
http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/cto/3159499704.html
3 SD1's
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/cto/3198821802.html
1964 110
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/3208433167.html
1971 Series II 2000TC with too many zeros in the price:
http://hickory.craigslist.org/cto/3123517619.html
On 8/19/2012 12:20 PM, Tom Rymes wrote:
> Found this on Craigslist. Looks like a good project for someone!
>
> http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/cto/3180857671.html
>
> Tom
>
> **************************************
> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
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>
>
From britishrover at gmail.com Sun Aug 19 20:30:54 2012
From: britishrover at gmail.com (British Rover)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 22:30:54 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] More Rovers for sale on Craigslist
In-Reply-To: <50319822.5080600@alum.swarthmore.edu>
References: <10EC9BFE-E228-447E-815D-8027091BB902@rymes.net>
<50319822.5080600@alum.swarthmore.edu>
Message-ID: <CAKQjg_Tbce9iPoatyt6PZt1oSY5z80eGqk47iCoOH_swAiro2Q@mail.gmail.com>
...Oh Man,...those SD1's WERE Pitiful!!!..Well, THREE Whales..We
couldn't SAVE..lol'''
On 8/19/12, Steve Manwell <s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu> wrote:
>
>
> 1968 2000 Automatic
> http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/cto/3159499704.html
>
> 1970 3500S
> http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/cto/3159499704.html
>
> 3 SD1's
> http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/cto/3198821802.html
>
> 1964 110
> http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/3208433167.html
>
> 1971 Series II 2000TC with too many zeros in the price:
> http://hickory.craigslist.org/cto/3123517619.html
>
>
>
>
> On 8/19/2012 12:20 PM, Tom Rymes wrote:
>> Found this on Craigslist. Looks like a good project for someone!
>>
>> http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/cto/3180857671.html
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> **************************************
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>>
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From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Mon Aug 20 10:34:12 2012
From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 16:34:12 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rally troubles
Message-ID: <BAY153-W64B97FACB76CE87C7F175CDEB90@phx.gbl>
The wife and i were running in the Presidents rally yesterday with our 3500S 5 speed..........too many of the roads while paved were potholed and bumpy and hard too run hard............about an hour and a half in to the rally the gearbox started to get a little balky...........i jumped out and looked at the fluid level and it was down slightly............one of the hump diddy jumps had caused the slave cylinder line to start to leak......i band aided it and continued ....next the front brakes started to pull slightly............as we flew by Mosport (sorry Canadian Tire Motorsports Park....don't get me going on that one) we heard a bang like a rock hit underneath........i dismissed it as a rock till i hit a pothole and it sounded like the suspension was coming through the floor then when i hit the brakes i knew we had a problem.....pulled over and checked but seen nothing.............i couldn,t see anything and the wheel turned easily so it wasn't a wheel bearing or something that exploded and i saw the brake pads were intact from what i could see.........i gave up the rally and limped home.....we quickly switched cars and completed the rally......of course we will be disqualifed but we had to finish since we were the only Rover other than a Landy........looked today and i sheared off the lower caliper bolt and the top was mostly stripped of threads...........the calipers i rebuilt but i used the old bolts.........could have been disasterous.......anyone had this happen before......i realize under normal driving you might not get this but very unusual
Bill Robertson
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From tom at rymes.net Mon Aug 20 10:40:15 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 12:40:15 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rally troubles
In-Reply-To: <BAY153-W64B97FACB76CE87C7F175CDEB90@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY153-W64B97FACB76CE87C7F175CDEB90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5032686F.7040705@rymes.net>
Bill,
I am unfamiliar with P6 calipers, but on other vehicles I have worked
on, there is normally a lock-tab to keep the bolt from being able to
back out. Was this present?
I ask only because I imagine it is much more likely for one of the bolts
to shear if it (or both) was loose.
Tom
On 08/20/2012 12:34 PM, Bill Robertson wrote:
> The wife and i were running in the Presidents rally yesterday with our 3500S 5 speed..........too many of the roads while paved were potholed and bumpy and hard too run hard............about an hour and a half in to the rally the gearbox started to get a little balky...........i jumped out and looked at the fluid level and it was down slightly............one of the hump diddy jumps had caused the slave cylinder line to start to leak......i band aided it and continued ....next the front brakes started to pull slightly............as we flew by Mosport (sorry Canadian Tire Motorsports Park....don't get me going on that one) we heard a bang like a rock hit underneath........i dismissed it as a rock till i hit a pothole and it sounded like the suspension was coming through the floor then when i hit the brakes i knew we had a problem.....pulled over and checked but seen nothing.............i couldn,t see anything and the wheel turned easily so it wasn't a wheel bearing or something that exploded and i saw the brake pads were intact from what i could see.........i gave up the rally and limped home.....we quickly switched cars and completed the rally......of course we will be disqualifed but we had to finish since we were the only Rover other than a Landy........looked today and i sheared off the lower caliper bolt and the top was mostly stripped of threads...........the calipers i rebuilt but i used the old bolts.........could have been disasterous.......anyone had this happen before......i realize under normal driving you might not get this but very unusual
> Bill Robertson
From bsaunders at firstva.com Mon Aug 20 11:21:21 2012
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:21:21 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rally troubles
In-Reply-To: <BAY153-W64B97FACB76CE87C7F175CDEB90@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY153-W64B97FACB76CE87C7F175CDEB90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <742709D2761D45F4B07FF1DC85D67E07@SD1>
Bill,
Do you think that this is why the Range Rover was built?
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Bill Robertson
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 12:34 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rally troubles
The wife and i were running in the Presidents rally yesterday with our 3500S
5 speed..........too many of the roads while paved were potholed and bumpy
and hard too run hard............about an hour and a half in to the rally
the gearbox started to get a little balky...........i jumped out and looked
at the fluid level and it was down slightly............one of the hump diddy
jumps had caused the slave cylinder line to start to leak......i band aided
it and continued ....next the front brakes started to pull
slightly............as we flew by Mosport (sorry Canadian Tire Motorsports
Park....don't get me going on that one) we heard a bang like a rock hit
underneath........i dismissed it as a rock till i hit a pothole and it
sounded like the suspension was coming through the floor then when i hit the
brakes i knew we had a problem.....pulled over and checked but seen
nothing.............i couldn,t see anything and the wheel turned easily so
it wasn't a wheel bearing or something
that exploded and i saw the brake pads were intact from what i could
see.........i gave up the rally and limped home.....we quickly switched cars
and completed the rally......of course we will be disqualifed but we had to
finish since we were the only Rover other than a Landy........looked today
and i sheared off the lower caliper bolt and the top was mostly stripped of
threads...........the calipers i rebuilt but i used the old
bolts.........could have been disasterous.......anyone had this happen
before......i realize under normal driving you might not get this but very
unusual
Bill Robertson
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From vern at inkspotco.com Mon Aug 20 12:24:33 2012
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 11:24:33 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rally troubles
In-Reply-To: <BAY153-W64B97FACB76CE87C7F175CDEB90@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY153-W64B97FACB76CE87C7F175CDEB90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CE4C7BEE-0F71-46FF-A49C-3A3F9F13DFC8@inkspotco.com>
Do you mean the calliper to upright bolts? I've never seen that problem.
Yours
Vern
On 2012-08-20, at 9:34 AM, Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> The wife and i were running in the Presidents rally yesterday with our 3500S 5 speed..........too many of the roads while paved were potholed and bumpy and hard too run hard............about an hour and a half in to the rally the gearbox started to get a little balky...........i jumped out and looked at the fluid level and it was down slightly............one of the hump diddy jumps had caused the slave cylinder line to start to leak......i band aided it and continued ....next the front brakes started to pull slightly............as we flew by Mosport (sorry Canadian Tire Motorsports Park....don't get me going on that one) we heard a bang like a rock hit underneath........i dismissed it as a rock till i hit a pothole and it sounded like the suspension was coming through the floor then when i hit the brakes i knew we had a problem.....pulled over and checked but seen nothing.............i couldn,t see anything and the wheel turned easily so it wasn't a wheel bearing or something
> that exploded and i saw the brake pads were intact from what i could see.........i gave up the rally and limped home.....we quickly switched cars and completed the rally......of course we will be disqualifed but we had to finish since we were the only Rover other than a Landy........looked today and i sheared off the lower caliper bolt and the top was mostly stripped of threads...........the calipers i rebuilt but i used the old bolts.........could have been disasterous.......anyone had this happen before......i realize under normal driving you might not get this but very unusual
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From geffandjulie at comcast.net Mon Aug 20 14:42:36 2012
From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:42:36 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rally troubles
In-Reply-To: <CE4C7BEE-0F71-46FF-A49C-3A3F9F13DFC8@inkspotco.com>
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I have been told that caliper bolts are in shear, that is, they have
deformed as tightened to spec, and should therefore never be used again.
AvMedSafe
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677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR USA 97210
503-241-8468(h) 503-799-3809 (mobile)
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From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Vern Klukas
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:25 AM
To: Rovernet
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Rally troubles
Do you mean the calliper to upright bolts? I've never seen that problem.
Yours
Vern
On 2012-08-20, at 9:34 AM, Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> The wife and i were running in the Presidents rally yesterday with our
> 3500S 5 speed..........too many of the roads while paved were potholed and
bumpy and hard too run hard............about an hour and a half in to the
rally the gearbox started to get a little balky...........i jumped out and
looked at the fluid level and it was down slightly............one of the
hump diddy jumps had caused the slave cylinder line to start to leak......i
band aided it and continued ....next the front brakes started to pull
slightly............as we flew by Mosport (sorry Canadian Tire Motorsports
Park....don't get me going on that one) we heard a bang like a rock hit
underneath........i dismissed it as a rock till i hit a pothole and it
sounded like the suspension was coming through the floor then when i hit the
brakes i knew we had a problem.....pulled over and checked but seen
nothing.............i couldn,t see anything and the wheel turned easily so
it wasn't a wheel bearing or something that exploded and i saw the brake
pads were intact from what i could see.........i gave up the rally and
limped home.....we quickly switched cars and completed the rally......of
course we will be disqualifed but we had to finish since we were the only
Rover other than a Landy........looked today and i sheared off the lower
caliper bolt and the top was mostly stripped of threads...........the
calipers i rebuilt but i used the old bolts.........could have been
disasterous.......anyone had this happen before......i realize under normal
driving you might not get this but very unusual
> Bill Robertson
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From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Mon Aug 20 15:30:14 2012
From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:30:14 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Digest, Vol 148, Issue 9
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LMAO @ Ben Thats why they built Landys...............I looked again at the sheared bolt after i easy outed it out.........I use EBC pads and they stop like mad........maybe the heat build up contributed to this.....never had a problem beforeCheers Bill
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From: kkinard at att.net
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 17:47:08 -0500
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] 3500S FS in Minneapolis Area: $2,600
Tom Rymes wrote:
> Found this on Craigslist. Looks like a good project for someone!
>
> http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/cto/3180857671.html
>
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Hi Tom,
I know this car. The same fellow I bought my P5B Coupe from years ago.
It is a nice car, but the last time I saw it, it had an Oldsmobile block
and heads underneath the Rover intake and carbs. I did a double take
when he popped the bonnet. I believe the man's name is John Sharp.
Really nice guy. It's been a long time since I have seen the
car...probably twelve or thirteen years...maybe more.
I'd rather have your P5 saloon.
Roverly,
Kent K.
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From: tom at rymes.net
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:18:38 -0400
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] 3500S FS in Minneapolis Area: $2,600
On Aug 19, 2012, at 6:47 PM, Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> wrote:
>
> Tom Rymes wrote:
>> Found this on Craigslist. Looks like a good project for someone!
>>
>> http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/cto/3180857671.html
>>
>> Tom
>>
> Hi Tom,
> I know this car. The same fellow I bought my P5B Coupe from years ago. It is a nice car, but the last time I saw it, it had an Oldsmobile block and heads underneath the Rover intake and carbs. I did a double take when he popped the bonnet. I believe the man's name is John Sharp. Really nice guy. It's been a long time since I have seen the car...probably twelve or thirteen years...maybe more.
>
> I'd rather have your P5 saloon.
>
> Roverly,
> Kent K.
Kent,
Interesting. Sounds like it's screaming for a 4.x L Rover engine and 5-speed swap!
Tom
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From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 21:51:30 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] More Rovers for sale on Craigslist
1968 2000 Automatic
http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/cto/3159499704.html
1970 3500S
http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/cto/3159499704.html
3 SD1's
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/cto/3198821802.html
1964 110
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/3208433167.html
1971 Series II 2000TC with too many zeros in the price:
http://hickory.craigslist.org/cto/3123517619.html
On 8/19/2012 12:20 PM, Tom Rymes wrote:
> Found this on Craigslist. Looks like a good project for someone!
>
> http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/cto/3180857671.html
>
> Tom
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From: britishrover at gmail.com
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 22:30:54 -0400
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] More Rovers for sale on Craigslist
...Oh Man,...those SD1's WERE Pitiful!!!..Well, THREE Whales..We
couldn't SAVE..lol'''
On 8/19/12, Steve Manwell <s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu> wrote:
>
>
> 1968 2000 Automatic
> http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/cto/3159499704.html
>
> 1970 3500S
> http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/cto/3159499704.html
>
> 3 SD1's
> http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/cto/3198821802.html
>
> 1964 110
> http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/3208433167.html
>
> 1971 Series II 2000TC with too many zeros in the price:
> http://hickory.craigslist.org/cto/3123517619.html
>
>
>
>
> On 8/19/2012 12:20 PM, Tom Rymes wrote:
>> Found this on Craigslist. Looks like a good project for someone!
>>
>> http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/cto/3180857671.html
>>
>> Tom
>>
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From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 16:34:12 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rally troubles
The wife and i were running in the Presidents rally yesterday with our 3500S 5 speed..........too many of the roads while paved were potholed and bumpy and hard too run hard............about an hour and a half in to the rally the gearbox started to get a little balky...........i jumped out and looked at the fluid level and it was down slightly............one of the hump diddy jumps had caused the slave cylinder line to start to leak......i band aided it and continued ....next the front brakes started to pull slightly............as we flew by Mosport (sorry Canadian Tire Motorsports Park....don't get me going on that one) we heard a bang like a rock hit underneath........i dismissed it as a rock till i hit a pothole and it sounded like the suspension was coming through the floor then when i hit the brakes i knew we had a problem.....pulled over and checked but seen nothing.............i couldn,t see anything and the wheel turned easily so it wasn't a wheel bearing or something that exploded and i saw the brake pads were intact from what i could see.........i gave up the rally and limped home.....we quickly switched cars and completed the rally......of course we will be disqualifed but we had to finish since we were the only Rover other than a Landy........looked today and i sheared off the lower caliper bolt and the top was mostly stripped of threads...........the calipers i rebuilt but i used the old bolts.........could have been disasterous.......anyone had this happen before......i realize under normal driving you might not get this but very unusual
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From: tom at rymes.net
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 12:40:15 -0400
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Rally troubles
Bill,
I am unfamiliar with P6 calipers, but on other vehicles I have worked
on, there is normally a lock-tab to keep the bolt from being able to
back out. Was this present?
I ask only because I imagine it is much more likely for one of the bolts
to shear if it (or both) was loose.
Tom
On 08/20/2012 12:34 PM, Bill Robertson wrote:
> The wife and i were running in the Presidents rally yesterday with our 3500S 5 speed..........too many of the roads while paved were potholed and bumpy and hard too run hard............about an hour and a half in to the rally the gearbox started to get a little balky...........i jumped out and looked at the fluid level and it was down slightly............one of the hump diddy jumps had caused the slave cylinder line to start to leak......i band aided it and continued ....next the front brakes started to pull slightly............as we flew by Mosport (sorry Canadian Tire Motorsports Park....don't get me going on that one) we heard a bang like a rock hit underneath........i dismissed it as a rock till i hit a pothole and it sounded like the suspension was coming through the floor then when i hit the brakes i knew we had a problem.....pulled over and checked but seen nothing.............i couldn,t see anything and the wheel turned easily so it wasn't a wheel bearing or something that exploded and i saw the brake pads were intact from what i could see.........i gave up the rally and limped home.....we quickly switched cars and completed the rally......of course we will be disqualifed but we had to finish since we were the only Rover other than a Landy........looked today and i sheared off the lower caliper bolt and the top was mostly stripped of threads...........the calipers i rebuilt but i used the old bolts.........could have been disasterous.......anyone had this happen before......i realize under normal driving you might not get this but very unusual
> Bill Robertson
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From: bsaunders at firstva.com
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:21:21 -0400
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Rally troubles
Bill,
Do you think that this is why the Range Rover was built?
Ben
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From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Bill Robertson
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 12:34 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rally troubles
The wife and i were running in the Presidents rally yesterday with our 3500S
5 speed..........too many of the roads while paved were potholed and bumpy
and hard too run hard............about an hour and a half in to the rally
the gearbox started to get a little balky...........i jumped out and looked
at the fluid level and it was down slightly............one of the hump diddy
jumps had caused the slave cylinder line to start to leak......i band aided
it and continued ....next the front brakes started to pull
slightly............as we flew by Mosport (sorry Canadian Tire Motorsports
Park....don't get me going on that one) we heard a bang like a rock hit
underneath........i dismissed it as a rock till i hit a pothole and it
sounded like the suspension was coming through the floor then when i hit the
brakes i knew we had a problem.....pulled over and checked but seen
nothing.............i couldn,t see anything and the wheel turned easily so
it wasn't a wheel bearing or something
that exploded and i saw the brake pads were intact from what i could
see.........i gave up the rally and limped home.....we quickly switched cars
and completed the rally......of course we will be disqualifed but we had to
finish since we were the only Rover other than a Landy........looked today
and i sheared off the lower caliper bolt and the top was mostly stripped of
threads...........the calipers i rebuilt but i used the old
bolts.........could have been disasterous.......anyone had this happen
before......i realize under normal driving you might not get this but very
unusual
Bill Robertson
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From vern at inkspotco.com Mon Aug 20 15:37:09 2012
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:37:09 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rally troubles
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Perhaps on modern equipment, but I have never seen any mention of one shot fasteners on Girling brakes of the time.
Yours
Vern
On 2012-08-20, at 1:42 PM, "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I have been told that caliper bolts are in shear, that is, they have
> deformed as tightened to spec, and should therefore never be used again.
>
> AvMedSafe
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
> Behalf Of Vern Klukas
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:25 AM
> To: Rovernet
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Rally troubles
>
>
> Do you mean the calliper to upright bolts? I've never seen that problem.
>
> Yours
> Vern
>
>
> On 2012-08-20, at 9:34 AM, Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> The wife and i were running in the Presidents rally yesterday with our
>> 3500S 5 speed..........too many of the roads while paved were potholed and
> bumpy and hard too run hard............about an hour and a half in to the
> rally the gearbox started to get a little balky...........i jumped out and
> looked at the fluid level and it was down slightly............one of the
> hump diddy jumps had caused the slave cylinder line to start to leak......i
> band aided it and continued ....next the front brakes started to pull
> slightly............as we flew by Mosport (sorry Canadian Tire Motorsports
> Park....don't get me going on that one) we heard a bang like a rock hit
> underneath........i dismissed it as a rock till i hit a pothole and it
> sounded like the suspension was coming through the floor then when i hit the
> brakes i knew we had a problem.....pulled over and checked but seen
> nothing.............i couldn,t see anything and the wheel turned easily so
> it wasn't a wheel bearing or something that exploded and i saw the brake
> pads were intact from what i could see.........i gave up the rally and
> limped home.....we quickly switched cars and completed the rally......of
> course we will be disqualifed but we had to finish since we were the only
> Rover other than a Landy........looked today and i sheared off the lower
> caliper bolt and the top was mostly stripped of threads...........the
> calipers i rebuilt but i used the old bolts.........could have been
> disasterous.......anyone had this happen before......i realize under normal
> driving you might not get this but very unusual
>> Bill Robertson
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Tue Aug 21 04:57:04 2012
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 12:57:04 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] R: 3500S FS in Minneapolis Area: $2,600
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Looks beautiful!
What about the engine?
Is it seized?
Ciao, best regards, GR.
-----Messaggio originale-----
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Per conto di Tom Rymes
Inviato: domenica 19 agosto 2012 18:20
A: Rovernet
Oggetto: [Rovernet ] 3500S FS in Minneapolis Area: $2,600
Found this on Craigslist. Looks like a good project for someone!
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/cto/3180857671.html
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From tom at rymes.net Tue Aug 21 07:24:50 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 09:24:50 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Brake/Stop light switch - Hydraulic
In-Reply-To: <50338BCE.4010001@rymes.com>
References: <50338BCE.4010001@rymes.com>
Message-ID: <50338C22.5050605@rymes.net>
Folks,
My Mk III's brake light switch seems to have given up the ghost. I was
hoping that someone out there might point me to the correct part number
so I can find a replacement.
Perhaps it is the same part as a single-circuit P6?
Tom
From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Wed Aug 22 06:20:25 2012
From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (Steve Manwell)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 08:20:25 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Brake/Stop light switch - Hydraulic
In-Reply-To: <50338C22.5050605@rymes.net>
References: <50338BCE.4010001@rymes.com> <50338C22.5050605@rymes.net>
Message-ID: <5034CE89.7090909@alum.swarthmore.edu>
Tom,
The parts book says the stop light switch for 3 litre MkIIc and MkIII is
# 560793. The part number for 2000's -- both single and tandem circuit
-- is 531583, aka LU34446. However, both the 3 litre and 2000 books
show sealing washers at the base of the switch, so it seems that both
have straight/parallel threads, and not a tapered pipe thread.
Earlier 3 litres must have a switch with tapered pipe thread, because
the book shows no sealing washer and the switch has a different part number.
I don't know why late 3 litre and 2000 switches would have a different
part number; seam like they should be interchangeable.
--Steve
On 8/21/2012 9:24 AM, Tom Rymes wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> My Mk III's brake light switch seems to have given up the ghost. I was
> hoping that someone out there might point me to the correct part
> number so I can find a replacement.
>
> Perhaps it is the same part as a single-circuit P6?
>
> Tom
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From gofanu at cust.usachoice.net Wed Aug 22 12:05:36 2012
From: gofanu at cust.usachoice.net (Fletcher Millmore)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:05:36 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Digest, Vol 148, Issue 11
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Message-ID: <50351F70.2020802@usachoice.net>
One difference was the change from grub screw to Lucar connectors. And
Lucas was crazy about changing part numbers for no apparent reason in
the 60s and 70s; we used to get long lists of number & price changes as
often as every two weeks, and the supercession references were only
carried for a few subsequent lists - drove us crazy!
FRM
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> 1. Re: Brake/Stop light switch - Hydraulic (Steve Manwell)
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> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 08:20:25 -0400
> From: Steve Manwell <s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu>
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Brake/Stop light switch - Hydraulic
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> Tom,
>
> The parts book says the stop light switch for 3 litre MkIIc and MkIII is
> # 560793. The part number for 2000's -- both single and tandem circuit
> -- is 531583, aka LU34446. However, both the 3 litre and 2000 books
> show sealing washers at the base of the switch, so it seems that both
> have straight/parallel threads, and not a tapered pipe thread.
>
> Earlier 3 litres must have a switch with tapered pipe thread, because
> the book shows no sealing washer and the switch has a different part number.
>
> I don't know why late 3 litre and 2000 switches would have a different
> part number; seam like they should be interchangeable.
>
> --Steve
>
>
> On 8/21/2012 9:24 AM, Tom Rymes wrote:
>> Folks,
>>
>> My Mk III's brake light switch seems to have given up the ghost. I was
>> hoping that someone out there might point me to the correct part
>> number so I can find a replacement.
>>
>> Perhaps it is the same part as a single-circuit P6?
>>
>> Tom
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From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Wed Aug 22 20:16:47 2012
From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (Steve Manwell)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:16:47 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Brake/Stop light switch - Hydraulic
In-Reply-To: <5034CE89.7090909@alum.swarthmore.edu>
References: <50338BCE.4010001@rymes.com> <50338C22.5050605@rymes.net>
<5034CE89.7090909@alum.swarthmore.edu>
Message-ID: <5035928F.6050606@alum.swarthmore.edu>
Apparently most British cars used one of two types of hydraulic switches
with Lucar connectors (and before that with set screws as Fletcher
said.) The type with 1/8" x 27 tapered pipe thread appears to be more
common. This tapered type has Lucas part numbers SMB424 or 31882, and
Moss number 560-480. The other type has a 3/8" x 24 UNF non-tapered
thread matching the threads on brake pipe fittings, and I gather this
was used on P5's and P6's after about 1964.
The 3/8" x 24 switch has Lucas numbers SPB401 or 34619, 34446, 35855,
etc; see LBCarCo.com and search for SPB401.
The Intermotor part number for the 3/8" x 24 switch is 51610; see
http://www.bpnorthwest.com/index.php/brake-light-switch-3-8x24-unf.html
--Steve
On 8/22/2012 8:20 AM, Steve Manwell wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> The parts book says the stop light switch for 3 litre MkIIc and MkIII
> is # 560793. The part number for 2000's -- both single and tandem
> circuit -- is 531583, aka LU34446. However, both the 3 litre and 2000
> books show sealing washers at the base of the switch, so it seems that
> both have straight/parallel threads, and not a tapered pipe thread.
>
> Earlier 3 litres must have a switch with tapered pipe thread, because
> the book shows no sealing washer and the switch has a different part
> number.
>
> I don't know why late 3 litre and 2000 switches would have a different
> part number; seam like they should be interchangeable.
>
> --Steve
>
>
> On 8/21/2012 9:24 AM, Tom Rymes wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> My Mk III's brake light switch seems to have given up the ghost. I
>> was hoping that someone out there might point me to the correct part
>> number so I can find a replacement.
>>
>> Perhaps it is the same part as a single-circuit P6?
>>
>> Tom
>>
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From rababiuk at telusplanet.net Mon Aug 27 21:24:48 2012
From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net (Roy Babiuk)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 21:24:48 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] Looking for some fender hardware and heater fan
Message-ID: <E7675533-0240-4FBD-97CC-A25C689ADB59@telusplanet.net>
Hi All.
I am looking for right front fender hardware for a series 1 2000 TC
including;
front fender locating spigot - Part 36146
front fender washer - Part 3830
front fender spring washer - Part 3075
front fender 5/16 unf nut - Part 254831
I am also looking for a working heater fan.
Anyone have any of this?
Thanks.
Roy
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From bsaunders at firstva.com Tue Aug 28 05:38:32 2012
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 07:38:32 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Looking for some fender hardware and heater fan
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Where are you located?
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Subject: [Rovernet ] Looking for some fender hardware and heater fan
Hi All.
I am looking for right front fender hardware for a series 1 2000 TC
including; front fender locating spigot - Part 36146
front fender washer - Part 3830
front fender spring washer - Part 3075
front fender 5/16 unf nut - Part 254831
I am also looking for a working heater fan.
Anyone have any of this?
Thanks.
Roy
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From rababiuk at telusplanet.net Tue Aug 28 06:27:28 2012
From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net (Roy Babiuk)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 06:27:28 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] Looking for some fender hardware and heater fan
Message-ID: <93DBD006-1FF1-47BD-BA43-CD74C68D5A9E@telusplanet.net>
In Alberta, Canada Ben.
From ianalice at shaw.ca Tue Aug 28 11:43:05 2012
From: ianalice at shaw.ca (Alice and Ian Potts)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 10:43:05 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Looking for some fender hardware and heater fan
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I suggest that you contact Paul Watkin, on Vancouver Island, where there
is a storage of used Rover parts, including fenders. HIs e-mail is:
watcyn at shaw.ca
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> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Looking for some fender hardware and heater fan
>
>
> Hi All.
>
> I am looking for right front fender hardware for a series 1 2000 TC
> including; front fender locating spigot - Part 36146
>
> front fender washer - Part 3830
>
> front fender spring washer - Part 3075
>
> front fender 5/16 unf nut - Part 254831
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From magnet at roverclub.org Wed Aug 29 10:26:30 2012
From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:26:30 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Giving the P6B the Needle
Message-ID: <503E42B6.20404@roverclub.org>
As most North American P6B owners will know, Rover had to jump through a
number of hoops to get the 3.5 litre engine to comply with the emissions
regulations then in effect in the U.S. (Same was true, of couse, for
the 2000 models.)
One of the modifications to the V8 was an unnnaturally lean, or weak,
mixture at idle, and a distributor set-up that allowed the engine to run
on such a mixture, involving a vacuum retard capsule controlled by a
vacuum "switch" on the throttle.
From a reliability and drivability standpoint, this arrangement was
something less than ideal, and many owners have removed the vacuum
paraphernalia, reset the timing to 0 deg BTDC or a bit earlier, and
adjusted the jets to get a normal mixture at idle.
I did this some years back and the performance of the car was greatly
improved. But with the mixture set for the best idle, I always had a
suspicion that it was too rich at larger throttle openings -- the
tailpipe was sooty black and the exhaust was too loud and rather splashy
sounding. I had thought this noise might be an exhaust leak somewhere
around the manifolds or downpipes, although I couldn't actually locate
any leakage.
Then at RoveAmerica this year, I was chatting with Steve Manwell about
his 3500S, to which he had fitted new carbs, but had not yet had a
chance to sort out the choke linkage, so that the mixture was much too
rich. And behold, Steve's car was making the identical sound.
This was enough evidence to convince me that a weaker running mixture
would be a Good Thing. So I did a bit of research on SU needles --
Burlen Fuel Systems and http://www.mintylamb.co.uk/suneedle/ are very
useful resources -- and bought a set of BAK needles from Burlen. If you
compare the BAK with the original BAC (the mintylamb site has a neat
tool for this) you can see that while they are the same at small
throttle openings, the BAK needle is thicker as the piston rises
further, giving a weaker mixture.
The results? Early days yet, but immediate impressions are a much
quieter engine during acceleration and no discernable difference in
performance. It will be interesting to see if the fuel economy improves
to any measurable extent, and if the colour of the tailpipe gets any
lighter.
Cheers,
-- Bill Daddis
From renovations.plus at hotmail.com Wed Aug 29 11:32:47 2012
From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com (Dennis .)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:32:47 -0300
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
Message-ID: <BAY145-W6A94B502463442749AD7495A00@phx.gbl>
I had noticed a rather unusually hard time with keeping my carbs set properly and when I mentioned it to a fellow (former Rover dealership mechanic) he quickly sumised that I should solder closed the little (1/4") round valve that is a part of the butterfly in my carbs...he said these were often trouble and having it opperating was only lucky at best...any thoughts ? regards Dennis Brooks
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Wed Aug 29 11:49:39 2012
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 19:49:39 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Giving the P6B the Needle
In-Reply-To: <503E42B6.20404@roverclub.org>
References: <503E42B6.20404@roverclub.org>
Message-ID: <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959601E68E08@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel>
Very interesting and well written!
Ciao, GR.
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Magnet
Inviato: mercoled? 29 agosto 2012 18:27
A: ROVERNET
Oggetto: [Rovernet ] Giving the P6B the Needle
As most North American P6B owners will know, Rover had to jump through a number of hoops to get the 3.5 litre engine to comply with the emissions regulations then in effect in the U.S. (Same was true, of couse, for the 2000 models.)
One of the modifications to the V8 was an unnnaturally lean, or weak, mixture at idle, and a distributor set-up that allowed the engine to run on such a mixture, involving a vacuum retard capsule controlled by a vacuum "switch" on the throttle.
From a reliability and drivability standpoint, this arrangement was something less than ideal, and many owners have removed the vacuum paraphernalia, reset the timing to 0 deg BTDC or a bit earlier, and adjusted the jets to get a normal mixture at idle.
I did this some years back and the performance of the car was greatly improved. But with the mixture set for the best idle, I always had a suspicion that it was too rich at larger throttle openings -- the tailpipe was sooty black and the exhaust was too loud and rather splashy sounding. I had thought this noise might be an exhaust leak somewhere around the manifolds or downpipes, although I couldn't actually locate any leakage.
Then at RoveAmerica this year, I was chatting with Steve Manwell about his 3500S, to which he had fitted new carbs, but had not yet had a chance to sort out the choke linkage, so that the mixture was much too rich. And behold, Steve's car was making the identical sound.
This was enough evidence to convince me that a weaker running mixture would be a Good Thing. So I did a bit of research on SU needles -- Burlen Fuel Systems and http://www.mintylamb.co.uk/suneedle/ are very useful resources -- and bought a set of BAK needles from Burlen. If you compare the BAK with the original BAC (the mintylamb site has a neat tool for this) you can see that while they are the same at small throttle openings, the BAK needle is thicker as the piston rises further, giving a weaker mixture.
The results? Early days yet, but immediate impressions are a much quieter engine during acceleration and no discernable difference in performance. It will be interesting to see if the fuel economy improves to any measurable extent, and if the colour of the tailpipe gets any lighter.
Cheers,
-- Bill Daddis
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From irishrover1 at live.com Wed Aug 29 11:33:32 2012
From: irishrover1 at live.com (Frederick Ben Rodgers)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:33:32 -0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-W6A94B502463442749AD7495A00@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY145-W6A94B502463442749AD7495A00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <COL111-W43EAB9AAC4E25B8CBC495E87A00@phx.gbl>
Hi Dennis
I have certainly heard of this remedy before, but whether it works or not I can't say. If you are going to do it make sure you don't upset the balance of the butterfly with too much solder (weight)
Cheers Ben
Author of LILY & ME , and THE ROYAL NAVY & ME
Visit blog and website wwwirishroversbooks.com
> From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:32:47 -0300
> Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I had noticed a rather unusually hard time with keeping my carbs set properly and when I mentioned it to a fellow (former Rover dealership mechanic) he quickly sumised that I should solder closed the little (1/4") round valve that is a part of the butterfly in my carbs...he said these were often trouble and having it opperating was only lucky at best...any thoughts ? regards Dennis Brooks
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From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com Wed Aug 29 12:55:27 2012
From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:55:27 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-W6A94B502463442749AD7495A00@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY145-W6A94B502463442749AD7495A00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU157-W54F76E638AE9A6454B2C3B8A00@phx.gbl>
What keeps going adrift on the carb? The mixture setting?
> From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:32:47 -0300
> Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I had noticed a rather unusually hard time with keeping my carbs set properly and when I mentioned it to a fellow (former Rover dealership mechanic) he quickly sumised that I should solder closed the little (1/4") round valve that is a part of the butterfly in my carbs...he said these were often trouble and having it opperating was only lucky at best...any thoughts ? regards Dennis Brooks
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From tom at rymes.net Wed Aug 29 13:02:36 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:02:36 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
In-Reply-To: <BLU157-W54F76E638AE9A6454B2C3B8A00@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY145-W6A94B502463442749AD7495A00@phx.gbl>
<BLU157-W54F76E638AE9A6454B2C3B8A00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <503E674C.1080701@rymes.net>
It is my understanding that, the springs are designed to only allow air
past when the throttle snaps shut at high RPMs, like when shifting
gears. As the springs age they begin to allow air past the butterfly at
idle, and become irregular in their opening, causing problems when
idling due to all of the extra air passing.
Most rebuilders will replace the butterfly with a solid one, and others
will solder the valve shut.
Tom
On 08/29/2012 2:55 PM, Richard Sharpe wrote:
> What keeps going adrift on the carb? The mixture setting?
>
>> From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:32:47 -0300
>> Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
>>
>> I had noticed a rather unusually hard time with keeping my carbs set properly and when I mentioned it to a fellow (former Rover dealership mechanic) he quickly sumised that I should solder closed the little (1/4") round valve that is a part of the butterfly in my carbs...he said these were often trouble and having it opperating was only lucky at best...any thoughts ? regards Dennis Brooks
From sdibdin at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 13:17:46 2012
From: sdibdin at gmail.com (Steven Dibdin)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:17:46 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-W6A94B502463442749AD7495A00@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY145-W6A94B502463442749AD7495A00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAC5dAAf_h=OdBUeUtnUE8X_qp149y-5vHPE8tSKGTNJW+0Bo5g@mail.gmail.com>
Hey Dennis,
The poppet valve (as it's known) has always been a pain. I had them on my
TR7's too and ended up soldering them closed too. It did make carb settings
a lot more stable with no perceivable change in performance above idle.
The return springs weaken with age and mess up your airflow causing
a variable closed throttle condition. They were originally fitted as
a fuel saving device to lean out the mixture at idle.
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Dennis . <renovations.plus at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I had noticed a rather unusually hard time with keeping my carbs set
> properly and when I mentioned it to a fellow (former Rover dealership
> mechanic) he quickly sumised that I should solder closed the little (1/4")
> round valve that is a part of the butterfly in my carbs...he said these
> were often trouble and having it opperating was only lucky at best...any
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From tom at rymes.net Wed Aug 29 17:07:17 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 19:07:17 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 Mk III Transmission Mount & Tailshaft Gasket
Message-ID: <B63CAB5F-18B5-4B53-A77A-9228285A7AB7@rymes.net>
Does anyone out there have a North American source for a Transmission mount and a tailshaft gasket for the B-W T35 transmission in my '66 Mk III P5?
Any help appreciated before I order from the usual suspects in the UK.
Thank you,
Tom
From renovations.plus at hotmail.com Wed Aug 29 18:22:16 2012
From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com (Dennis .)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 21:22:16 -0300
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
In-Reply-To: <BLU157-W54F76E638AE9A6454B2C3B8A00@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY145-W6A94B502463442749AD7495A00@phx.gbl>,
<BLU157-W54F76E638AE9A6454B2C3B8A00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY145-W2576C616C89579597793595A70@phx.gbl>
Yes...he said that this was a problem with these carbs from NEW...it could be fine one day ..off the next and fine again the next...and of course like any sane person ...we keep fiddling wioth the mixture not knowing that this little freaky valve was never any good in the first place unless we were one of the few very lucky people. > From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:55:27 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
>
>
>
> What keeps going adrift on the carb? The mixture setting?
>
> > From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com
> > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:32:47 -0300
> > Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
> >
> >
> >
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From vern at inkspotco.com Wed Aug 29 21:39:20 2012
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:39:20 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-W2576C616C89579597793595A70@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY145-W6A94B502463442749AD7495A00@phx.gbl>,
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<BAY145-W2576C616C89579597793595A70@phx.gbl>
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While the valves did give problems, there was another game at play at the time. Dealer's and mechanics were not, in general, equipped & trained to deal with the intricate systems of the early pollution controls systems. And, to be fair, neither did the manufacturers. All in all it was a time of much teeth gnashing.
First we would try lapping the little valve against the butterfly with a little fine compound, which made things right for awhile. Failing that we'd substitute a solid butterfly or solder the valve.
Yours
Vern
On 2012-08-29, at 5:22 PM, "Dennis ." <renovations.plus at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Yes...he said that this was a problem with these carbs from NEW...it could be fine one day ..off the next and fine again the next...and of course like any sane person ...we keep fiddling wioth the mixture not knowing that this little freaky valve was never any good in the first place unless we were one of the few very lucky people. > From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:55:27 +0000
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
>>
>>
>>
>> What keeps going adrift on the carb? The mixture setting?
>>
>>> From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com
>>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>>> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:32:47 -0300
>>> Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I had noticed a rather unusually hard time with keeping my carbs set properly and when I mentioned it to a fellow (former Rover dealership mechanic) he quickly sumised that I should solder closed the little (1/4") round valve that is a part of the butterfly in my carbs...he said these were often trouble and having it opperating was only lucky at best...any thoughts ? regards Dennis Brooks
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From renovations.plus at hotmail.com Thu Aug 30 01:42:07 2012
From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com (Dennis .)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 04:42:07 -0300
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
In-Reply-To: <0A3C4CC6-B1E7-457D-95C2-831638D3F95A@inkspotco.com>
References: <BAY145-W6A94B502463442749AD7495A00@phx.gbl>, ,
<BLU157-W54F76E638AE9A6454B2C3B8A00@phx.gbl>,
<BAY145-W2576C616C89579597793595A70@phx.gbl>,
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Vern... How often (say ot of every 10 cars) would this be a problem ? What were the most obvious symptoms ? Regards Dennis
> From: vern at inkspotco.com
> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:39:20 -0700
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
>
>
> While the valves did give problems, there was another game at play at the time. Dealer's and mechanics were not, in general, equipped & trained to deal with the intricate systems of the early pollution controls systems. And, to be fair, neither did the manufacturers. All in all it was a time of much teeth gnashing.
>
> First we would try lapping the little valve against the butterfly with a little fine compound, which made things right for awhile. Failing that we'd substitute a solid butterfly or solder the valve.
>
> Yours
> Vern
>
> On 2012-08-29, at 5:22 PM, "Dennis ." <renovations.plus at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> >
> >
> >
> > Yes...he said that this was a problem with these carbs from NEW...it could be fine one day ..off the next and fine again the next...and of course like any sane person ...we keep fiddling wioth the mixture not knowing that this little freaky valve was never any good in the first place unless we were one of the few very lucky people. > From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com
> >> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> >> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:55:27 +0000
> >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> What keeps going adrift on the carb? The mixture setting?
> >>
> >>> From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com
> >>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> >>> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:32:47 -0300
> >>> Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I had noticed a rather unusually hard time with keeping my carbs set properly and when I mentioned it to a fellow (former Rover dealership mechanic) he quickly sumised that I should solder closed the little (1/4") round valve that is a part of the butterfly in my carbs...he said these were often trouble and having it opperating was only lucky at best...any thoughts ? regards Dennis Brooks
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From vern at inkspotco.com Thu Aug 30 08:04:45 2012
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 07:04:45 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-W235EC73936E8A17C661DAF95A70@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY145-W6A94B502463442749AD7495A00@phx.gbl>, ,
<BLU157-W54F76E638AE9A6454B2C3B8A00@phx.gbl>,
<BAY145-W2576C616C89579597793595A70@phx.gbl>,
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I can't remember how prevalent it was, and keep in mind I was working on cars that were already several years old at that point.
Erratic idle and stalling were the symptoms.
Yours
Vern
On 2012-08-30, at 12:42 AM, "Dennis ." <renovations.plus at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Vern... How often (say ot of every 10 cars) would this be a problem ? What were the most obvious symptoms ? Regards Dennis
>> From: vern at inkspotco.com
>> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:39:20 -0700
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
>>
>>
>> While the valves did give problems, there was another game at play at the time. Dealer's and mechanics were not, in general, equipped & trained to deal with the intricate systems of the early pollution controls systems. And, to be fair, neither did the manufacturers. All in all it was a time of much teeth gnashing.
>>
>> First we would try lapping the little valve against the butterfly with a little fine compound, which made things right for awhile. Failing that we'd substitute a solid butterfly or solder the valve.
>>
>> Yours
>> Vern
>>
>> On 2012-08-29, at 5:22 PM, "Dennis ." <renovations.plus at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes...he said that this was a problem with these carbs from NEW...it could be fine one day ..off the next and fine again the next...and of course like any sane person ...we keep fiddling wioth the mixture not knowing that this little freaky valve was never any good in the first place unless we were one of the few very lucky people. > From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com
>>>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>>>> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:55:27 +0000
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What keeps going adrift on the carb? The mixture setting?
>>>>
>>>>> From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com
>>>>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>>>>> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:32:47 -0300
>>>>> Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I had noticed a rather unusually hard time with keeping my carbs set properly and when I mentioned it to a fellow (former Rover dealership mechanic) he quickly sumised that I should solder closed the little (1/4") round valve that is a part of the butterfly in my carbs...he said these were often trouble and having it opperating was only lucky at best...any thoughts ? regards Dennis Brooks
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From RoverP6 at gmx.de Thu Aug 30 08:07:04 2012
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 16:07:04 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] old P6 3500 advertisement
References: <BAY145-W6A94B502463442749AD7495A00@phx.gbl>,
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<0A3C4CC6-B1E7-457D-95C2-831638D3F95A@inkspotco.com>
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http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/538791_459799817385845_1057590426_n.jpg
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info
From calendarcrew at hotmail.co.uk Thu Aug 30 08:58:35 2012
From: calendarcrew at hotmail.co.uk (richard jones)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 15:58:35 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
In-Reply-To: <D5A81DC1-C159-4EC0-AB60-B409E6C9AA21@inkspotco.com>
References: <BAY145-W6A94B502463442749AD7495A00@phx.gbl>,
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<BAY145-W2576C616C89579597793595A70@phx.gbl>, ,
<0A3C4CC6-B1E7-457D-95C2-831638D3F95A@inkspotco.com>,
<BAY145-W235EC73936E8A17C661DAF95A70@phx.gbl>,
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Poppet valve symptom was usally a excessive idle speed, cutting out and a hesitation, simply replace the throttle discs to standard.
> From: vern at inkspotco.com
> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 07:04:45 -0700
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
>
>
> I can't remember how prevalent it was, and keep in mind I was working on cars that were already several years old at that point.
>
> Erratic idle and stalling were the symptoms.
>
> Yours
> Vern
>
>
> On 2012-08-30, at 12:42 AM, "Dennis ." <renovations.plus at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Vern... How often (say ot of every 10 cars) would this be a problem ? What were the most obvious symptoms ? Regards Dennis
> >> From: vern at inkspotco.com
> >> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:39:20 -0700
> >> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
> >>
> >>
> >> While the valves did give problems, there was another game at play at the time. Dealer's and mechanics were not, in general, equipped & trained to deal with the intricate systems of the early pollution controls systems. And, to be fair, neither did the manufacturers. All in all it was a time of much teeth gnashing.
> >>
> >> First we would try lapping the little valve against the butterfly with a little fine compound, which made things right for awhile. Failing that we'd substitute a solid butterfly or solder the valve.
> >>
> >> Yours
> >> Vern
> >>
> >> On 2012-08-29, at 5:22 PM, "Dennis ." <renovations.plus at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Yes...he said that this was a problem with these carbs from NEW...it could be fine one day ..off the next and fine again the next...and of course like any sane person ...we keep fiddling wioth the mixture not knowing that this little freaky valve was never any good in the first place unless we were one of the few very lucky people. > From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com
> >>>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> >>>> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:55:27 +0000
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> What keeps going adrift on the carb? The mixture setting?
> >>>>
> >>>>> From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com
> >>>>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> >>>>> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:32:47 -0300
> >>>>> Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I had noticed a rather unusually hard time with keeping my carbs set properly and when I mentioned it to a fellow (former Rover dealership mechanic) he quickly sumised that I should solder closed the little (1/4") round valve that is a part of the butterfly in my carbs...he said these were often trouble and having it opperating was only lucky at best...any thoughts ? regards Dennis Brooks
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From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com Thu Aug 30 12:50:06 2012
From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:50:06 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-W2576C616C89579597793595A70@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY145-W6A94B502463442749AD7495A00@phx.gbl>, ,
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Another problem with early 1970's SU's was the use of a large batch of weak jet springs so that every time you operated the manual choke there was a chance the jet nut would turn. The problem got worse with age as the jet nut threads on the main body got polished with unwanted use. I used to have to fiddle with the mixture on my sorely afflicted 1972 Austin Apache quite regularly. Most frustrating as you never knew when hard starting or rich mix would manifest themselves and compounded by my general automotive ignorance and not really knowing what I was doing lol!
> From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 21:22:16 -0300
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
>
>
>
>
> Yes...he said that this was a problem with these carbs from NEW...it could be fine one day ..off the next and fine again the next...and of course like any sane person ...we keep fiddling wioth the mixture not knowing that this little freaky valve was never any good in the first place unless we were one of the few very lucky people. > From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com
> > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:55:27 +0000
> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
> >
> >
> >
> > What keeps going adrift on the carb? The mixture setting?
> >
> > > From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com
> > > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > > Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:32:47 -0300
> > > Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 HS6 carb
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I had noticed a rather unusually hard time with keeping my carbs set properly and when I mentioned it to a fellow (former Rover dealership mechanic) he quickly sumised that I should solder closed the little (1/4") round valve that is a part of the butterfly in my carbs...he said these were often trouble and having it opperating was only lucky at best...any thoughts ? regards Dennis Brooks
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From: jaguru at bellsouth.net (jaguru at bellsouth.net)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 22:57:57 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 Mk III Transmission Mount & Tailshaft Gasket
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I believe Fatsco transmission parts in New Jersey sells BW 35 kits. James
Dean
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Rymes" <tom at rymes.net>
To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 7:07 PM
Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 Mk III Transmission Mount & Tailshaft Gasket
>
> Does anyone out there have a North American source for a Transmission
> mount and a tailshaft gasket for the B-W T35 transmission in my '66 Mk III
> P5?
>
> Any help appreciated before I order from the usual suspects in the UK.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Tom
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