>
From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Fri Jul 1 16:42:10 2011
From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 17:42:10 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Electrical Harness/ brake switches.
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> Slats
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> A. Brake light switches do fail. Many folks are installing relays into this circuit because of this.
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>
One more thought about brake light switches, they do kind of have their own little dead spot, which can get filled with corrosion or crud. If you just put in a new brake switch, it may well end up filled with crud etc, so when you change the brake switch it is a good idea to totally flush the brake fluid, which you should be doing a few years anyway. Eric made mention of this on another Rover forum, so I just wanted to credit this idea to him.
James.
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From lacpsyd6 at msn.com Mon Jul 4 15:27:11 2011
From: lacpsyd6 at msn.com (LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 14:27:11 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] Wiring Woes
Message-ID: <COL111-W49ED7670C8F37DFC3FC71D835C0@phx.gbl>
Hi all,
I'd appreciate some help with wire gauge size. I'm about to order some braided wire from British Wiring and although I have the conversion chart (i.e., British 14 = 18 gauge US) I'm not sure of some of the diameter of certain wires under the hood w/o cutting into them.
Any help would be appreciated:
Ignition coil----the black ground is very thin 9 or 14? (British)Ignition coil---double braided wire [White/Black] (thicker than ground) 14 or 28? (British)Brake Fluid reservoir switch---ground appears same as ignition coilBrake Fluid reservoir switch---double wire, both White/Black braided---14 or 28? (British)
Relay 6RA --near power steering reservoir--- White/Blue braided is very thin---- 9? (British) White/Brown braided is thickest of all wires 28,44, or 65? (British)
Brown braided (not sure because so faded) is same diameter at White/Brown
Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S
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From trymes at rymes.net Mon Jul 4 15:35:11 2011
From: trymes at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 16:35:11 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Wiring Woes
In-Reply-To: <COL111-W49ED7670C8F37DFC3FC71D835C0@phx.gbl>
References: <COL111-W49ED7670C8F37DFC3FC71D835C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <57488C47-6099-43D5-AE6F-9D7E30792AF6@rymes.net>
On Jul 4, 2011, at 4:27 PM, "LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE" <lacpsyd6 at msn.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'd appreciate some help with wire gauge size.
<snip>
Lance,
It might help if we know what type of car you have.
Tom
From dmesmg at juno.com Mon Jul 4 19:49:04 2011
From: dmesmg at juno.com (dmesmg at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 20:49:04 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Wiring Woes--Lance's 3500S Federal
Message-ID: <20110704.174951.989.1384299@mailpop09.vgs.untd.com>
Tom, I believe Lance has a 1970 3500S (P6B) Federal specification car.
Photos can be found on the British V8 website --beautiful car Lance!
Dan
> Lance,
>
> It might help if we know what type of car you have.
>
> Tom
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From RoverP6 at gmx.de Tue Jul 5 06:55:32 2011
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 13:55:32 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] Italian P6 3500 S / ebay
References: <BAY153-w747EF80B3F79D31428337DE580@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <F663F68AB4064F418F1A56BE9A55996C@rw>
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250849596186?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp5197.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D250849596186%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1
Very low 484 chassis number
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info
From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Tue Jul 5 08:17:42 2011
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 15:17:42 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Italian P6 3500 S / ebay
In-Reply-To: <F663F68AB4064F418F1A56BE9A55996C@rw>
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<F663F68AB4064F418F1A56BE9A55996C@rw>
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I know this car, it belons to a lawyer of treviso, a collegue of mine.
It was previously advertised by e- mail to registro italiano rover members, it is said to be in verygood conditions, engine rebuilt and still a good paint.
I am interested in the webasto sunroof... I'd like to buy a top with webasto for my p6, to bolt it in!
Any news?
Ciao, GR.
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di RoverP6 at gmx.de
Inviato: marted? 5 luglio 2011 13.56
A: Rovernet
Oggetto: [Rovernet ] Italian P6 3500 S / ebay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250849596186?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp5197.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D250849596186%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1
Very low 484 chassis number
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info
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From lacpsyd6 at msn.com Tue Jul 5 12:55:07 2011
From: lacpsyd6 at msn.com (LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 11:55:07 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] Wiring woes redux
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Message-ID: <col111-w330A7C6E86126D3EA4DB52835F0@phx.gbl>
As noted at the end of my first post (after my name)---I have a 1970 3500S P6B
Thanks again in advance for any help with the wiring questions
Lance La Certe, Psy.D.
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 14:27:11 -0600
> From: "LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE" <lacpsyd6 at msn.com>
> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca>, <britishwiring at ameritech.net>
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> Hi all,
> I'd appreciate some help with wire gauge size. I'm about to order some braided wire from British Wiring and although I have the conversion chart (i.e., British 14 = 18 gauge US) I'm not sure of some of the diameter of certain wires under the hood w/o cutting into them.
> Any help would be appreciated:
> Ignition coil----the black ground is very thin 9 or 14? (British)Ignition coil---double braided wire [White/Black] (thicker than ground) 14 or 28? (British)Brake Fluid reservoir switch---ground appears same as ignition coilBrake Fluid reservoir switch---double wire, both White/Black braided---14 or 28? (British)
> Relay 6RA --near power steering reservoir--- White/Blue braided is very thin---- 9? (British) White/Brown braided is thickest of all wires 28,44, or 65? (British)
> Brown braided (not sure because so faded) is same diameter at White/Brown
>
>
> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S
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> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 16:35:11 -0400
> From: Tom Rymes <trymes at rymes.net>
> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
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> On Jul 4, 2011, at 4:27 PM, "LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE" <lacpsyd6 at msn.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> > I'd appreciate some help with wire gauge size.
>
> <snip>
>
> Lance,
>
> It might help if we know what type of car you have.
>
> Tom
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 20:49:04 -0400
> From: dmesmg at juno.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Wiring Woes--Lance's 3500S Federal
> Message-ID: <20110704.174951.989.1384299 at mailpop09.vgs.untd.com>
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> Tom, I believe Lance has a 1970 3500S (P6B) Federal specification car.
> Photos can be found on the British V8 website --beautiful car Lance!
>
> Dan
>
>
> > Lance,
> >
> > It might help if we know what type of car you have.
> >
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> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 13:55:32 +0200
> From: <RoverP6 at gmx.de>
> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Italian P6 3500 S / ebay
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> Very low 484 chassis number
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> Rudiger
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 15:17:42 +0200
> From: <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com>
> To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Italian P6 3500 S / ebay
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> I know this car, it belons to a lawyer of treviso, a collegue of mine.
> It was previously advertised by e- mail to registro italiano rover members, it is said to be in verygood conditions, engine rebuilt and still a good paint.
>
> I am interested in the webasto sunroof... I'd like to buy a top with webasto for my p6, to bolt it in!
>
> Any news?
>
> Ciao, GR.
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di RoverP6 at gmx.de
> Inviato: marted? 5 luglio 2011 13.56
> A: Rovernet
> Oggetto: [Rovernet ] Italian P6 3500 S / ebay
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>
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250849596186?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp5197.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D250849596186%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1
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>
> Very low 484 chassis number
>
> Rudiger
> www.RoverP6.info
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From hbob at bellsouth.net Sat Jul 9 20:50:06 2011
From: hbob at bellsouth.net (Bob Harris)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 21:50:06 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Free SD1
Message-ID: <4E19054E.6070504@bellsouth.net>
With regret I'm offering an SD1 that I've had 28 years. Has been in my
garage for 14 years, but has not moved in 10. Some rust, especially
under the bonnet, some small dents, headliner falling in. Vitesse
wheels, stainless headers, exhaust, Spax dampers.
I have a son about to become a driver and need the space. Glad to give
her freely to a good home. Sold my 1974 Lotus Europa JPS today as well.
In Asheville, NC
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From britishrover at gmail.com Sat Jul 9 21:18:18 2011
From: britishrover at gmail.com (British Rover)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 22:18:18 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Free SD1
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Hey Bob,
Being a die hard Rover fan, I guess I have the only other one in
Asheville..I would gladly take it off your hands..but don't you want
any compensation?
Dave
On 7/9/11, Bob Harris <hbob at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> With regret I'm offering an SD1 that I've had 28 years. Has been in my
> garage for 14 years, but has not moved in 10. Some rust, especially
> under the bonnet, some small dents, headliner falling in. Vitesse
> wheels, stainless headers, exhaust, Spax dampers.
>
> I have a son about to become a driver and need the space. Glad to give
> her freely to a good home. Sold my 1974 Lotus Europa JPS today as well.
>
> In Asheville, NC
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From hbob at bellsouth.net Sat Jul 9 22:13:17 2011
From: hbob at bellsouth.net (Bob Harris)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 23:13:17 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Free SD1
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Dave can you give me a personal email?
On 7/9/2011 10:18 PM, British Rover wrote:
> Hey Bob,
> Being a die hard Rover fan, I guess I have the only other one in
> Asheville..I would gladly take it off your hands..but don't you want
> any compensation?
> Dave
>
> On 7/9/11, Bob Harris<hbob at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> With regret I'm offering an SD1 that I've had 28 years. Has been in my
>> garage for 14 years, but has not moved in 10. Some rust, especially
>> under the bonnet, some small dents, headliner falling in. Vitesse
>> wheels, stainless headers, exhaust, Spax dampers.
>>
>> I have a son about to become a driver and need the space. Glad to give
>> her freely to a good home. Sold my 1974 Lotus Europa JPS today as well.
>>
>> In Asheville, NC
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From rababiuk at telusplanet.net Mon Jul 11 11:51:22 2011
From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net (Roy Babiuk)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:51:22 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] 10% Ethanol in gas
Message-ID: <1BD6928E-2A7E-4BB5-A6B6-28F671A85004@telusplanet.net>
Recently all the gas stations in my town have applied stickers on
their pumps indicating the fuel "May contain up to 10% ethanol". What,
if any, consequences could one expect in running this fuel in a Rover
P6 4 pot engine? Are there any additives to mitigate any adverse
effects?
Roy
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From trymes at rymes.net Mon Jul 11 12:35:31 2011
From: trymes at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:35:31 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] 10% Ethanol in gas
In-Reply-To: <1BD6928E-2A7E-4BB5-A6B6-28F671A85004@telusplanet.net>
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On 07/11/2011 12:51 PM, Roy Babiuk wrote:
>
> Recently all the gas stations in my town have applied stickers on their
> pumps indicating the fuel "May contain up to 10% ethanol". What, if any,
> consequences could one expect in running this fuel in a Rover P6 4 pot
> engine? Are there any additives to mitigate any adverse effects?
> Roy
Roy,
There are all sorts of horror stories out there, but most are overblown.
If you have old rubber fuel lines, the ethanol might eat them, but if
your fuel lines are that old, you ought to replace them anyway.
It wouldn't hurt to double check your mixture settings.
Tom
From renovations.plus at hotmail.com Mon Jul 11 14:21:10 2011
From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com (Dennis .)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:21:10 -0300
Subject: [Rovernet ] 10% Ethanol in gas
In-Reply-To: <1BD6928E-2A7E-4BB5-A6B6-28F671A85004@telusplanet.net>
References: <1BD6928E-2A7E-4BB5-A6B6-28F671A85004@telusplanet.net>
Message-ID: <BAY145-W32EE75A7E6BCC005E405D95450@phx.gbl>
You may want to find out if that is in all grades...In my area it does not apply to the premium grade. Older engines do have problems due to the 10% ethanol..especially older lawn mowers and snow blowers etc..but also many (if not all) older auto engines experience problems and are advised to use only premium fuel.
Dennis
> From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:51:22 -0600
> Subject: [Rovernet ] 10% Ethanol in gas
>
>
> Recently all the gas stations in my town have applied stickers on
> their pumps indicating the fuel "May contain up to 10% ethanol". What,
> if any, consequences could one expect in running this fuel in a Rover
> P6 4 pot engine? Are there any additives to mitigate any adverse
> effects?
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From mikshdik at gmail.com Tue Jul 12 04:04:39 2011
From: mikshdik at gmail.com (Mike Shaddick)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:04:39 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] 10% Ethanol in gas (Roy Babiuk)
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Rovernet Digest, Vol 135, Issue 6
Ethanol. I ran my P6B on ethanol, progressively up to80% ethanol.
This was a standard aluminium 3,500 V8. I had to bring the timing back
to TDC and play around with mixtures (HIF6 carbs) but so far no other
problems.
Mike
X
From den at aachenkennels.com Tue Jul 12 04:09:00 2011
From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:09:00 +0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] Lucas theory of electricity
Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD1617D136@Server.adoptsec.local>
Some of you may have seen this before, but I think it deserves a
re-run..
Den
ELECTRICAL THEORY BY JOSEPH LUCAS
Positive ground depends on proper circuit functioning, which is the
transmission of negative ions by retention of the visible spectral
manifestation known as "smoke".
Smoke is the thing that makes electrical circuits work. We know this to
be true because every time one lets the smoke out of an electrical
circuit, it stops working. This can be verified repeatedly through
empirical testing.
For example, if one places a copper bar across the terminals of a
battery, prodigious quantities of smoke are liberated and the battery
shortly ceases to function. In addition, if one observes smoke escaping
from an electrical component such as a Lucas voltage regulator, it will
also be observed that the component no longer functions. The logic is
elementary and inescapable!
The function of the wiring harness is to conduct the smoke from one
device to another. When the wiring springs a leak and lets all the smoke
out of the system, nothing works afterward.
Starter motors were considered unsuitable for British motorcycles for
some time largely because they consumed large quantities of smoke,
requiring very unsightly large wires.
It has been reported that Lucas electrical components are possibly more
prone to electrical leakage than their Bosch, Japanese or American
counterparts. Experts point out that this is because Lucas is British,
and all things British leak. British engines leak oil, British shock
absorbers, hydraulic forks and disk brake systems leak fluid, British
tires leak air and British Intelligence leaks national defense secrets.
Therefore, it follows that British electrical systems must leak smoke.
Once again, the logic is clear and inescapable.
In conclusion, the basic concept of transmission of electrical energy in
the form of smoke provides a logical explanation of the mysteries of
electrical components especially British units manufactured by Joseph
Lucas, Ltd..
And remember: "A gentleman does not motor about after dark."
Joseph Lucas "The Prince of Darkness"
1842-1903
A few Lucas quips:
The Lucas motto: "Get home before dark."
Lucas is the patent holder for the short circuit.
Lucas - Inventor of the first intermittent wiper.
Lucas - Inventor of the self-dimming headlamp.
The three-position Lucas switch--DIM, FLICKER and OFF. The other three
switch settings--SMOKE, SMOLDER and IGNITE.
The Original Anti-Theft Device - Lucas Electrics.
If Lucas made guns, wars would not start
Back in the '70s, Lucas decided to diversify its product line and began
manufacturing vacuum cleaners. It was the only product they offered
which did not suck.
Q: Why do the British drink warm beer? A: Because Lucas makes their
refrigerators.
This has been referred to as the smoke theory when the smoke comes out
its finished, cooked or done for.
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From A.Ward at latrobe.edu.au Tue Jul 12 06:06:04 2011
From: A.Ward at latrobe.edu.au (Alex Ward)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:06:04 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] 10% Ethanol in gas
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The P6 2000 and 2200 had incredibly high compression ratio. My last P6 (since demised) would not run on anything less than premium (98 octane). My P5 3 litre runs just fine on E10 (95 octane) but the compression ratio is much lower and I had the valve guides replaced with modern ones to avoid wear. My understanding is that Rover always used specially hardened valve seats so there is no problem with valve seat recession with the absence of lead in the fuel. But I think there is no problem with E10 as long as the octane rating is high enough. In Australia, E10 is only available in 95 octane fuel. I tried it once in the P6 but the pinging was awful and potentially damaging to the inlet valves.
Sure there are additives, but bloody expensive unless you only run the car on Sundays!
Alex
On 12/07/2011, at 5:21 AM, Dennis . wrote:
You may want to find out if that is in all grades...In my area it does not apply to the premium grade. Older engines do have problems due to the 10% ethanol..especially older lawn mowers and snow blowers etc..but also many (if not all) older auto engines experience problems and are advised to use only premium fuel.
Dennis
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To: rovernet at rovernet.ca<mailto:rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:51:22 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] 10% Ethanol in gas
Recently all the gas stations in my town have applied stickers on
their pumps indicating the fuel "May contain up to 10% ethanol". What,
if any, consequences could one expect in running this fuel in a Rover
P6 4 pot engine? Are there any additives to mitigate any adverse
effects?
Roy
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From A.Ward at latrobe.edu.au Tue Jul 12 07:18:16 2011
From: A.Ward at latrobe.edu.au (Alex Ward)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 22:18:16 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] 10% Ethanol in gas (Roy
Babiuk) ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Yes, but the P6B had a V8 with a lower compression ratio. Timing adjustment does not seem to work with the 4 cyl engines.
Alex
On 12/07/2011, at 7:04 PM, Mike Shaddick wrote:
Rovernet Digest, Vol 135, Issue 6
Ethanol. I ran my P6B on ethanol, progressively up to80% ethanol.
This was a standard aluminium 3,500 V8. I had to bring the timing back
to TDC and play around with mixtures (HIF6 carbs) but so far no other
problems.
Mike
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From A.Ward at latrobe.edu.au Tue Jul 12 07:18:17 2011
From: A.Ward at latrobe.edu.au (Alex Ward)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 22:18:17 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Lucas theory of electricity
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I like this. Rather like gremlins push the pistons up and down and when they get tired they pee oil on the piston rings, causing smoke to come out of the exhaust. Unfortunately, gremlin replacements are hard to find. They are too busy working to reproduce and can only exist in an oily environment. So if your engine runs out of oil, the engine stops working as they can't do their job or even pee any more and they die!
On 12/07/2011, at 7:09 PM, Dennis Gallacher wrote:
Some of you may have seen this before, but I think it deserves a
re-run..
Den
ELECTRICAL THEORY BY JOSEPH LUCAS
Positive ground depends on proper circuit functioning, which is the
transmission of negative ions by retention of the visible spectral
manifestation known as "smoke".
Smoke is the thing that makes electrical circuits work. We know this to
be true because every time one lets the smoke out of an electrical
circuit, it stops working. This can be verified repeatedly through
empirical testing.
For example, if one places a copper bar across the terminals of a
battery, prodigious quantities of smoke are liberated and the battery
shortly ceases to function. In addition, if one observes smoke escaping
from an electrical component such as a Lucas voltage regulator, it will
also be observed that the component no longer functions. The logic is
elementary and inescapable!
The function of the wiring harness is to conduct the smoke from one
device to another. When the wiring springs a leak and lets all the smoke
out of the system, nothing works afterward.
Starter motors were considered unsuitable for British motorcycles for
some time largely because they consumed large quantities of smoke,
requiring very unsightly large wires.
It has been reported that Lucas electrical components are possibly more
prone to electrical leakage than their Bosch, Japanese or American
counterparts. Experts point out that this is because Lucas is British,
and all things British leak. British engines leak oil, British shock
absorbers, hydraulic forks and disk brake systems leak fluid, British
tires leak air and British Intelligence leaks national defense secrets.
Therefore, it follows that British electrical systems must leak smoke.
Once again, the logic is clear and inescapable.
In conclusion, the basic concept of transmission of electrical energy in
the form of smoke provides a logical explanation of the mysteries of
electrical components especially British units manufactured by Joseph
Lucas, Ltd..
And remember: "A gentleman does not motor about after dark."
Joseph Lucas "The Prince of Darkness"
1842-1903
A few Lucas quips:
The Lucas motto: "Get home before dark."
Lucas is the patent holder for the short circuit.
Lucas - Inventor of the first intermittent wiper.
Lucas - Inventor of the self-dimming headlamp.
The three-position Lucas switch--DIM, FLICKER and OFF. The other three
switch settings--SMOKE, SMOLDER and IGNITE.
The Original Anti-Theft Device - Lucas Electrics.
If Lucas made guns, wars would not start
Back in the '70s, Lucas decided to diversify its product line and began
manufacturing vacuum cleaners. It was the only product they offered
which did not suck.
Q: Why do the British drink warm beer? A: Because Lucas makes their
refrigerators.
This has been referred to as the smoke theory when the smoke comes out
its finished, cooked or done for.
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From slbridge at hotmail.com Tue Jul 12 08:03:28 2011
From: slbridge at hotmail.com (steve bridge)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:03:28 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] 10% Ethanol in gas (Roy Babiuk)
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Ethanol has less energy and that is why fuel economy is less than with gasoline. Compression heats it up and at 12:1 compression, there is no loss of economy.
> From: A.Ward at latrobe.edu.au
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 22:18:16 +1000
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] 10% Ethanol in gas (Roy Babiuk) ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Yes, but the P6B had a V8 with a lower compression ratio. Timing adjustment does not seem to work with the 4 cyl engines.
> Alex
>
> On 12/07/2011, at 7:04 PM, Mike Shaddick wrote:
>
>
> Rovernet Digest, Vol 135, Issue 6
>
> Ethanol. I ran my P6B on ethanol, progressively up to80% ethanol.
> This was a standard aluminium 3,500 V8. I had to bring the timing back
> to TDC and play around with mixtures (HIF6 carbs) but so far no other
> problems.
>
>
> Mike
>
> X
>
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> LaTrobe University
> Victoria 3086
> Australia
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From irishrover1 at live.com Tue Jul 12 08:49:33 2011
From: irishrover1 at live.com (Frederick Ben Rodgers)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:49:33 -0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] Gas Smell??
Message-ID: <COL111-W506A0F4A9C0FCB3094C51087440@phx.gbl>
hi Folks
I have a constant smell of gas (petrol) fumes in the trunk (boot) of my 1961 Rover P4-100. There are no leaks at the pump all the connections are tight and the hole through the floor is sealed.The two small vents on the fuel pump I have attached hoses and led them outside.There is no obvious reason to be seen in the trunk. I haven't been under the car yet to check the tank but I feel quite sure its not leaking either, Any ideas?????
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Tue Jul 12 09:34:13 2011
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:34:13 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Gas Smell??
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Hi Ben,
several years ago my p6 was repainted and the tank was changed with a new one.
There was a strong smell of gas in the trunk and in the car.
After several checks we understood that the vapour exhaust pipe line was not fitted properly.
It was very easy to put it in place again.
This was the reason, no further problem later.
Best regards, ciao, GR.
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Frederick Ben Rodgers
Inviato: marted? 12 luglio 2011 15.50
A: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Oggetto: [Rovernet ] Gas Smell??
hi Folks
I have a constant smell of gas (petrol) fumes in the trunk (boot) of my 1961 Rover P4-100. There are no leaks at the pump all the connections are tight and the hole through the floor is sealed.The two small vents on the fuel pump I have attached hoses and led them outside.There is no obvious reason to be seen in the trunk. I haven't been under the car yet to check the tank but I feel quite sure its not leaking either, Any ideas?????
Regards Ben (irishrover)
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From irishrover1 at live.com Tue Jul 12 09:31:55 2011
From: irishrover1 at live.com (Frederick Ben Rodgers)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:31:55 -0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Gas Smell??
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Hi GR
Don't think that is the problem here, P4 is quite different from P6, gas tank is outside the trunk, I'm not sure if there is a vent from the tank, probably is but it would be outside too.
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> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:34:13 +0200
> From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Gas Smell??
>
>
> Hi Ben,
>
> several years ago my p6 was repainted and the tank was changed with a new one.
> There was a strong smell of gas in the trunk and in the car.
> After several checks we understood that the vapour exhaust pipe line was not fitted properly.
>
> It was very easy to put it in place again.
>
> This was the reason, no further problem later.
>
> Best regards, ciao, GR.
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Frederick Ben Rodgers
> Inviato: marted? 12 luglio 2011 15.50
> A: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Oggetto: [Rovernet ] Gas Smell??
>
>
>
> hi Folks
> I have a constant smell of gas (petrol) fumes in the trunk (boot) of my 1961 Rover P4-100. There are no leaks at the pump all the connections are tight and the hole through the floor is sealed.The two small vents on the fuel pump I have attached hoses and led them outside.There is no obvious reason to be seen in the trunk. I haven't been under the car yet to check the tank but I feel quite sure its not leaking either, Any ideas?????
> Regards Ben (irishrover)
>
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From gbbourque at gmail.com Tue Jul 12 11:30:58 2011
From: gbbourque at gmail.com (garrett bourque)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:30:58 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Gas Smell??
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Regarding Mr. Rodgers gas fume smells,
If your car has one, make sure the tank's overflow/ air vent hose is
connected and leads somewhere away from the trunk. This lets the air out as
the gas goes in.
Otherwise, if everything else looks intact, you might have a rust hole
starting in the top of your gas tank, or a leaky gas sending unit or it's
sealing gasket. Even a little bit of gasoline makes a big smell if it is in
a place where you do not want it. Good luck with it.
Garrett Bourque
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Frederick Ben Rodgers <irishrover1 at live.com
> wrote:
>
>
> hi Folks
> I have a constant smell of gas (petrol) fumes in the trunk (boot)
> of my 1961 Rover P4-100. There are no leaks at the pump all the connections
> are tight and the hole through the floor is sealed.The two small vents on
> the fuel pump I have attached hoses and led them outside.There is no obvious
> reason to be seen in the trunk. I haven't been under the car yet to check
> the tank but I feel quite sure its not leaking either, Any ideas?????
> Regards Ben (irishrover)
>
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From esailer at snet.net Tue Jul 12 19:51:56 2011
From: esailer at snet.net (Edward Sailer)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:51:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Gas Smell??
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I have exactly the same odor in my 1961 P4 100. I top the tank at the pump and it doesn't leak so I seriously doubt that the tank is corroded (and it's a California car). I also think the fill hose elbo is good for the same reason. The pump is new and doesn't leak. I can only conclude that the vent hose is the source. Any other ideas?
Ted Sailer
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On Jul 12, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Frederick Ben Rodgers <irishrover1 at live.com> wrote:
hi Folks
I have a constant smell of gas (petrol) fumes in the trunk (boot) of my 1961 Rover P4-100. There are no leaks at the pump all the connections are tight and the hole through the floor is sealed.The two small vents on the fuel pump I have attached hoses and led them outside.There is no obvious reason to be seen in the trunk. I haven't been under the car yet to check the tank but I feel quite sure its not leaking either, Any ideas?????
Regards Ben (irishrover)
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From: esailer at snet.net (Edward Sailer)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:51:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Gas Smell??
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I have exactly the same odor in my 1961 P4 100. I top the tank at the pump and it doesn't leak so I seriously doubt that the tank is corroded (and it's a California car). I also think the fill hose elbo is good for the same reason. The pump is new and doesn't leak. I can only conclude that the vent hose is the source. Any other ideas?
Ted Sailer
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On Jul 12, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Frederick Ben Rodgers <irishrover1 at live.com> wrote:
hi Folks
I have a constant smell of gas (petrol) fumes in the trunk (boot) of my 1961 Rover P4-100. There are no leaks at the pump all the connections are tight and the hole through the floor is sealed.The two small vents on the fuel pump I have attached hoses and led them outside.There is no obvious reason to be seen in the trunk. I haven't been under the car yet to check the tank but I feel quite sure its not leaking either, Any ideas?????
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From slbridge at hotmail.com Tue Jul 12 21:28:56 2011
From: slbridge at hotmail.com (steve bridge)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 02:28:56 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Gas Smell??
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Could be a rust hole on the top of the tank or under the straps, from dust collected over the years.
> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:51:56 -0700
> From: esailer at snet.net
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> CC: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Gas Smell??
>
>
> I have exactly the same odor in my 1961 P4 100. I top the tank at the pump and it doesn't leak so I seriously doubt that the tank is corroded (and it's a California car). I also think the fill hose elbo is good for the same reason. The pump is new and doesn't leak. I can only conclude that the vent hose is the source. Any other ideas?
>
> Ted Sailer
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 12, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Frederick Ben Rodgers <irishrover1 at live.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> hi Folks
> I have a constant smell of gas (petrol) fumes in the trunk (boot) of my 1961 Rover P4-100. There are no leaks at the pump all the connections are tight and the hole through the floor is sealed.The two small vents on the fuel pump I have attached hoses and led them outside.There is no obvious reason to be seen in the trunk. I haven't been under the car yet to check the tank but I feel quite sure its not leaking either, Any ideas?????
> Regards Ben (irishrover)
>
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From trymes at rymes.net Tue Jul 12 21:51:27 2011
From: trymes at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 22:51:27 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Gas Smell??
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On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:51 PM, Edward Sailer <esailer at snet.net> wrote:
> I can only conclude that the vent hose is the source. Any other ideas?
If the rubber of the hose is degraded and dry-rotted, cracks will allow gas vapor into the car. Remove the vent hose, plug the end, and try to pull a vacuum with a MityVac or similar.
Tom
From trymes at rymes.net Tue Jul 12 21:55:20 2011
From: trymes at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 22:55:20 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Gas Smell??
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On Jul 12, 2011, at 10:51 PM, Tom Rymes <trymes at rymes.net> wrote:
> On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:51 PM, Edward Sailer <esailer at snet.net> wrote:
>
>> I can only conclude that the vent hose is the source. Any other ideas?
>
> If the rubber of the hose is degraded and dry-rotted, cracks will allow gas vapor into the car. Remove the vent hose, plug the end, and try to pull a vacuum with a MityVac or similar.
I forgot to mention that, if it fails to hold a vacuum, then it's cracked....
Tom
From irishrover1 at live.com Wed Jul 13 04:40:32 2011
From: irishrover1 at live.com (Frederick Ben Rodgers)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 07:40:32 -0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] Gas Smell??
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Hi Edward
Its still a mystery, I have checked my vent hoses and they are fine, the tank is fine no leaks. I'm focusing around the filler neck now. On the top side of the filler there is a, looks like a nut with a small cotter pin thru it, do you know what its for??? maybe a vent. I have found a leak from the filler compartment into the trunk and I'm wondering if that is the fume source. I will try to plug that today. Let me know what you find and I;ll do likewise.
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> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:51:56 -0700
> From: esailer at snet.net
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> CC: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Gas Smell??
>
>
> I have exactly the same odor in my 1961 P4 100. I top the tank at the pump and it doesn't leak so I seriously doubt that the tank is corroded (and it's a California car). I also think the fill hose elbo is good for the same reason. The pump is new and doesn't leak. I can only conclude that the vent hose is the source. Any other ideas?
>
> Ted Sailer
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 12, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Frederick Ben Rodgers <irishrover1 at live.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> hi Folks
> I have a constant smell of gas (petrol) fumes in the trunk (boot) of my 1961 Rover P4-100. There are no leaks at the pump all the connections are tight and the hole through the floor is sealed.The two small vents on the fuel pump I have attached hoses and led them outside.There is no obvious reason to be seen in the trunk. I haven't been under the car yet to check the tank but I feel quite sure its not leaking either, Any ideas?????
> Regards Ben (irishrover)
>
> *************
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From irishrover1 at live.com Fri Jul 15 12:33:15 2011
From: irishrover1 at live.com (Frederick Ben Rodgers)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:33:15 -0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] Gas Sender unit!
Message-ID: <col111-w14F07A64A1BE8DF224313F87490@phx.gbl>
Hi Folks
I think I found the problem with my sender unit which caused the gas gauge to jump all over the place . When I removed it from the tank it looked to be in very good condition, in fact looked quite new. The float was free moving and no leaks, then I took the small plate off that covers the electrical part. there should be a tightly wound coil on which a fork moves down as the gas level lowers. This coil was very loose and when the fork moved along it some of the coil wires moved with the fork!. I had a spare pretty grubby and corroded unit but it wasn't possible to make one out of two. I cleaned up the old unit, used some cold weld on the holes and installed. It appears to be working, the gas gauge moved to half full and stayed there. I'm also working on the rear brakes so couldn't do a test drive to see if it actually works underway, But I feel confident it will.
Thanks for all the advice help etc.
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From mgconnor11 at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 15 13:37:55 2011
From: mgconnor11 at sbcglobal.net (Michael Connor)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:37:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Gas Sender unit!
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Ben be sure and let us know how that works out. I have the same problem withe my P4 105. I took it out last weekend and gave it a good cleaning and did not notice a loose coil . It seemed to help but did not stop it completely.
Mike Connor
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From: Frederick Ben Rodgers <irishrover1 at live.com>
Subject: [Rovernet ] Gas Sender unit!
To: "rovernet at rovernet.ca" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Date: Friday, July 15, 2011, 12:33 PM
Hi Folks
? ? ? ? ? I think I found the problem with my sender unit which caused the gas gauge to jump all over the place . When I removed it from the tank it looked to be in very good condition, in fact looked quite new. The float was free moving and no leaks, then I took the small plate off that covers the electrical part. there should be a tightly wound coil on which a fork moves down as the gas level lowers. This coil was very loose and when the fork moved along it some of the coil wires moved with the fork!. I had a spare pretty grubby and corroded unit but it wasn't possible to make one out of two. I cleaned up the old unit, used some cold weld on the holes and installed. It appears to be working, the gas gauge moved to half full and stayed there. I'm also working on the rear brakes so couldn't do a test drive to see if it actually works underway, But I feel confident it will.
Thanks for all the advice help etc.
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From irishrover1 at live.com Sat Jul 16 05:24:37 2011
From: irishrover1 at live.com (Frederick Ben Rodgers)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 08:24:37 -0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] front Bumper for a TC
Message-ID: <COL111-W38AB0E7473BE92D7A521DD87480@phx.gbl>
Hi Folks
has anyone any idea what a new original front bumper is worth. Its still in the Rover carton it came it.
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From vern at inkspotco.com Sat Jul 16 16:32:31 2011
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Inkspot)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 14:32:31 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] front Bumper for a TC
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Hi Ben
No idea but if you are asking because you are selling I'd be interested
Yours
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Inkspot Type & Design
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From irishrover1 at live.com Sat Jul 16 17:41:40 2011
From: irishrover1 at live.com (Frederick Ben Rodgers)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 20:41:40 -0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] front Bumper for a TC
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Hi Vern
Its not mine, a lady contacted me about it she wants to sell and asked me what it was worth. I've seen a photo of it and it is indeed brand new. I'm guessing it would be worth around $500 based and the cost of having one re-chromed in this area. Unfortunately I only got one response on rovernet, he offered a $100 and said he could get his re-chromed for $130??? I told him that is what he should do! What do you think you'd pay for it. Bare in mind I'm just the messenger.
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> From: vern at inkspotco.com
> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 14:32:31 -0700
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] front Bumper for a TC
>
>
> Hi Ben
>
> No idea but if you are asking because you are selling I'd be interested
>
> Yours
> Vern
>
> Inkspot Type & Design
> 250 864 5619
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From dburrowes at vy-tek.com Sun Jul 17 13:13:14 2011
From: dburrowes at vy-tek.com (Dirk Burrowes)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 14:13:14 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
Message-ID: <20110717140559.21615@web004.nyc1.bluetie.com>
It is with great sadness that I inform the Rovernet community of the passing of Eric Russell. As most of you know Eric has been a great friend to everyone Rover inclined. It is Eric we have to thank for the Rovernet and the efforts to spread knowledge worldwide regarding these cars we love.
Eric left this world with his life long partner, best friend and loving wife Linda by his side.
I am sure Linda would appreciate any comments and remembrances posted to the Rovernet regarding your memories of Eric.
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From sdibdin at gmail.com Sun Jul 17 13:15:56 2011
From: sdibdin at gmail.com (Steven Dibdin)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 19:15:56 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
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Such sad news. He was a wonderfully kind man. Always willing to help and advise on many things.
The world should always have rooms for Erics.
Best,
Steven
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> Eric left this world with his life long partner, best friend and loving wife Linda by his side.
>
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>
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From david at davidwalter.net Sun Jul 17 13:27:17 2011
From: david at davidwalter.net (David Walter)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 11:27:17 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
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That is indeed sad news, I visited Eric in 1997 at his home in Vancouver, he
was truly inviting and very friendly especially about things "Rover".
He offered good advice when I wanted to purchase Rover items and was always
there to help.
The Rovernet will certainly miss his guidance and he will be long
remembered.
My condolences to Linda.
David Walter
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> It is with great sadness that I inform the Rovernet community of the
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> to everyone Rover inclined. It is Eric we have to thank for the Rovernet
> and the efforts to spread knowledge worldwide regarding these cars we
> love.
>
> Eric left this world with his life long partner, best friend and loving
> wife Linda by his side.
>
> I am sure Linda would appreciate any comments and remembrances posted to
> the Rovernet regarding your memories of Eric.
>
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From lingfield51 at btopenworld.com Sun Jul 17 13:33:46 2011
From: lingfield51 at btopenworld.com (Partviking)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 19:33:46 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
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So sorry to hear this news, Eric really was the founding father of Rovernet.
My condolences to Linda and family
Alan Francis (partviking)
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Sent: Sunday, 17 July, 2011 19:13:14
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
It is with great sadness that I inform the Rovernet community of the passing of
Eric Russell. As most of you know Eric has been a great friend to everyone Rover
inclined. It is Eric we have to thank for the Rovernet and the efforts to spread
knowledge worldwide regarding these cars we love.
Eric left this world with his life long partner, best friend and loving wife
Linda by his side.
I am sure Linda would appreciate any comments and remembrances posted to the
Rovernet regarding your memories of Eric.
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From vern at inkspotco.com Sun Jul 17 14:06:56 2011
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 12:06:56 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
In-Reply-To: <20110717140559.21615@web004.nyc1.bluetie.com>
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Very heavy heart today.
Yours
Vern
On 2011-07-17, at 11:13 AM, Dirk Burrowes wrote:
>
> It is with great sadness that I inform the Rovernet community of the passing of Eric Russell. As most of you know Eric has been a great friend to everyone Rover inclined. It is Eric we have to thank for the Rovernet and the efforts to spread knowledge worldwide regarding these cars we love.
>
> Eric left this world with his life long partner, best friend and loving wife Linda by his side.
>
> I am sure Linda would appreciate any comments and remembrances posted to the Rovernet regarding your memories of Eric.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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From veetwinrider at yahoo.com Sun Jul 17 14:09:11 2011
From: veetwinrider at yahoo.com (roland)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 12:09:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
Message-ID: <1310929751.43017.YahooMailClassic@web180512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
This is a very sad day indeed. I considered Eric to be a very integral part of the Rover community, a friend I never met. Please give my regards to Linda. Eric was a special person.
roland
--- On Sun, 7/17/11, Dirk Burrowes <dburrowes at vy-tek.com> wrote:
From: Dirk Burrowes <dburrowes at vy-tek.com>
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Date: Sunday, July 17, 2011, 11:13 AM
It is with great sadness that I inform the Rovernet community of the passing of Eric Russell. As most of you know Eric has been a great friend to everyone Rover inclined. It is Eric we have to thank for the Rovernet and the efforts to spread knowledge worldwide regarding these cars we love.
Eric left this world with his life long partner, best friend and loving wife Linda by his side.
I am sure Linda would appreciate any comments and remembrances posted to the Rovernet regarding your memories of Eric.
-----Original Message-----
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From irishrover1 at live.com Sun Jul 17 14:16:42 2011
From: irishrover1 at live.com (Frederick Ben Rodgers)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 17:16:42 -0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
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I can hardly believe the sad news, what a dreadful loss. My heart goes out to Linda, God Bless you in your time of such a great loss.
Ben (irishrover)
*************
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> From: sdibdin at gmail.com
> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 19:15:56 +0100
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
>
>
> Such sad news. He was a wonderfully kind man. Always willing to help and advise on many things.
>
> The world should always have rooms for Erics.
>
> Best,
>
> Steven
>
> Sent from my iPhone, please excuse any typing errors
>
> On Jul 17, 2011, at 7:13 PM, "Dirk Burrowes" <dburrowes at vy-tek.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > It is with great sadness that I inform the Rovernet community of the passing of Eric Russell. As most of you know Eric has been a great friend to everyone Rover inclined. It is Eric we have to thank for the Rovernet and the efforts to spread knowledge worldwide regarding these cars we love.
> >
> > Eric left this world with his life long partner, best friend and loving wife Linda by his side.
> >
> > I am sure Linda would appreciate any comments and remembrances posted to the Rovernet regarding your memories of Eric.
> >
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From p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Jul 17 14:46:41 2011
From: p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk (p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 20:46:41 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
References: <20110717140559.21615@web004.nyc1.bluetie.com>
<71E0F16B25A74AC6A19FCEFC5DD00D5A@DavidVista>
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So glad we got to meet Eric, when he & Linda were roving in England in 2010.
So sorry we are not going to get another chance to repeat the pleasure until
we all drive our Rovers to Valhalla, that is.
Until then, the best we can do, is keep a space open in our hearts
especially to remember him as a font of rovering helpfulness.
While at the same time, we send our heartfelt condolences to his family and
especially his wife Linda.
"Valhalla is described in the Viking religion as being much like earth
except that everything is perfect. There is plenty to eat, drink and no more
hardship. The place where the best Vikings go!" ..........So it must have
loads of rovers!............. Happy roves Eric.
Already missing you.
Mark Gray, Editor RP6C
Angie Gray, Chairman RP6C
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Walter" <david at davidwalter.net>
To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
>
> That is indeed sad news, I visited Eric in 1997 at his home in Vancouver,
> he was truly inviting and very friendly especially about things "Rover".
> He offered good advice when I wanted to purchase Rover items and was
> always there to help.
>
> The Rovernet will certainly miss his guidance and he will be long
> remembered.
>
> My condolences to Linda.
>
> David Walter
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dirk Burrowes" <dburrowes at vy-tek.com>
> To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 11:13 AM
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
>
>
>>
>> It is with great sadness that I inform the Rovernet community of the
>> passing of Eric Russell. As most of you know Eric has been a great friend
>> to everyone Rover inclined. It is Eric we have to thank for the Rovernet
>> and the efforts to spread knowledge worldwide regarding these cars we
>> love.
>>
>> Eric left this world with his life long partner, best friend and loving
>> wife Linda by his side.
>>
>> I am sure Linda would appreciate any comments and remembrances posted to
>> the Rovernet regarding your memories of Eric.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rovernet-request at rovernet.ca
>> Date: 07/17/2011 01:00 PM
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From david.bass4 at ntlworld.com Sun Jul 17 15:05:23 2011
From: david.bass4 at ntlworld.com (David Bass)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 21:05:23 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
In-Reply-To: <20110717140559.21615@web004.nyc1.bluetie.com>
References: <20110717140559.21615@web004.nyc1.bluetie.com>
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I haven't contributed to Rovernet at all recently, but Iwould like to
join with everyone in expressing my sadness at Eric's passing - a proper
gent.
David
On 17/07/2011 19:13, Dirk Burrowes wrote:
> It is with great sadness that I inform the Rovernet community of the passing of Eric Russell. As most of you know Eric has been a great friend to everyone Rover inclined. It is Eric we have to thank for the Rovernet and the efforts to spread knowledge worldwide regarding these cars we love.
>
> Eric left this world with his life long partner, best friend and loving wife Linda by his side.
>
> I am sure Linda would appreciate any comments and remembrances posted to the Rovernet regarding your memories of Eric.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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From p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Jul 17 15:06:33 2011
From: p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk (p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 21:06:33 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
References: <20110717140559.21615@web004.nyc1.bluetie.com>
Message-ID: <067A025737F149ECB3288D2D8C4E5CB9@SN037535920331>
So glad we got to meet Eric, when he & Linda were roving in England in 2010.
So sorry we are not going to get another chance to repeat the pleasure until
we all drive our Rovers to Valhalla, that is.
Until then, the best we can do, is keep a space open in our hearts
especially to remember him as a font of rovering helpfulness.
While at the same time, we send our heartfelt condolences to his family and
especially his wife Linda.
"Valhalla is described in the Viking religion as being much like earth
except that everything is perfect. There is plenty to eat, drink and no more
hardship. The place where the best Vikings go!" ..........So it must have
loads of rovers!............. Happy roves Eric.
Already missing you.
Mark Gray, Editor RP6C
Angie Gray, Chairman RP6C
From hbob at bellsouth.net Sun Jul 17 16:20:32 2011
From: hbob at bellsouth.net (Bob Harris)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 17:20:32 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
In-Reply-To: <20110717140559.21615@web004.nyc1.bluetie.com>
References: <20110717140559.21615@web004.nyc1.bluetie.com>
Message-ID: <4E235220.20405@bellsouth.net>
Will miss seeing his posts and contribution to the Rover community. We
should all take time to appreciate each of those who touch our lives.
On 7/17/2011 2:13 PM, Dirk Burrowes wrote:
> It is with great sadness that I inform the Rovernet community of the passing of Eric Russell. As most of you know Eric has been a great friend to everyone Rover inclined. It is Eric we have to thank for the Rovernet and the efforts to spread knowledge worldwide regarding these cars we love.
>
> Eric left this world with his life long partner, best friend and loving wife Linda by his side.
>
> I am sure Linda would appreciate any comments and remembrances posted to the Rovernet regarding your memories of Eric.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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From robertime at cavtel.net Sun Jul 17 18:06:48 2011
From: robertime at cavtel.net (ROBERT HEIMERL)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 19:06:48 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
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I'd also like to express my condolences to Linda. It was certainly a
pleasure interacting with Eric on Rovernet -- and a privilege meeting him in
person at the Fitchburg Rover gatherings. His great dedication, patience
and, yes, fine wit will be sorely missed.
Thanks so much to you both,
Robert Heimerl
Arlington, VA
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Frederick Ben Rodgers <irishrover1 at live.com
> wrote:
>
>
> I can hardly believe the sad news, what a dreadful loss. My heart goes out
> to Linda, God Bless you in your time of such a great loss.
> Ben (irishrover)
>
> *************
> My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available as
> E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com
> Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges,
> Royal Navy?
> then
> Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com
>
>
> > From: sdibdin at gmail.com
> > Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 19:15:56 +0100
> > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
> >
> >
> > Such sad news. He was a wonderfully kind man. Always willing to help and
> advise on many things.
> >
> > The world should always have rooms for Erics.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Steven
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone, please excuse any typing errors
> >
> > On Jul 17, 2011, at 7:13 PM, "Dirk Burrowes" <dburrowes at vy-tek.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > It is with great sadness that I inform the Rovernet community of the
> passing of Eric Russell. As most of you know Eric has been a great friend to
> everyone Rover inclined. It is Eric we have to thank for the Rovernet and
> the efforts to spread knowledge worldwide regarding these cars we love.
> > >
> > > Eric left this world with his life long partner, best friend and loving
> wife Linda by his side.
> > >
> > > I am sure Linda would appreciate any comments and remembrances posted
> to the Rovernet regarding your memories of Eric.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: rovernet-request at rovernet.ca
> > > Date: 07/17/2011 01:00 PM
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From kkinard at att.net Sun Jul 17 18:15:59 2011
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 18:15:59 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
In-Reply-To: <4E234083.50203@ntlworld.com>
References: <20110717140559.21615@web004.nyc1.bluetie.com>
<4E234083.50203@ntlworld.com>
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I know Eric only because of Rovers. I believe he had a very full and
productive life apart from the hobby we share. I feel this is so without
knowing it because of the character he displayed over the years in
performing a difficult and tiresome job, even when his health failed
several times. When things became particularly difficult, we gave him
what we could...our profound thanks for a job well done. We could never
appreciate him enough.
Each person in our special community makes a contribution to the whole,
whether great or small, selfish or selfless. Eric's contribution was
huge and his motives pure. He was recognized and his influence felt each
time we gathered, whether he was present or not, for we loved him and he
loved us. His common sense and diligence held us steady. He was a
friend, not just to us, but to so many around the world and he welcomed
strangers with wonderful hospitality. He was woven so intricately into
the fabric of our life together that his removal from us leaves a gaping
hole. There will never be a replacement...only a substitute.
To Linda: May God's peace be upon you and your memories of Eric be
joyful. Ours will be.
Kent and Sheila Kinard
From geffandjulie at comcast.net Sun Jul 17 18:44:20 2011
From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 16:44:20 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
In-Reply-To: <20110717140559.21615@web004.nyc1.bluetie.com>
References: <20110717140559.21615@web004.nyc1.bluetie.com>
Message-ID: <001901cc44db$7441fcf0$5cc5f6d0$@net>
While I never met Eric, I felt I knew him because of his kindness and
competence...and his superb taste in cars!
AvMedSafe
Geoffrey W. McCarthy MD MBA DipAvMed
677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR USA 97210
503-241-8468(h) 503-799-3809 (mobile)
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Dirk Burrowes
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 11:13 AM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
It is with great sadness that I inform the Rovernet community of the passing
of Eric Russell. As most of you know Eric has been a great friend to
everyone Rover inclined. It is Eric we have to thank for the Rovernet and
the efforts to spread knowledge worldwide regarding these cars we love.
Eric left this world with his life long partner, best friend and loving wife
Linda by his side.
I am sure Linda would appreciate any comments and remembrances posted to the
Rovernet regarding your memories of Eric.
-----Original Message-----
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From britishrover at gmail.com Sun Jul 17 18:45:05 2011
From: britishrover at gmail.com (British Rover)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 19:45:05 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
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A man I never met..but a gentleman I knew well..you reflected your
life nicely, touched so very many ..in such a very positive way!
"Sail on" Eric, may the wind continually be your earthly spirit..for
all of us, who thrived on your ability and your wonderful
character...
God Bless Linda.
Dave
Asheville, North Carolina
From scottsoldautorubber at bigpond.com.au Sun Jul 17 19:04:31 2011
From: scottsoldautorubber at bigpond.com.au (Scott Richmond)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:04:31 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
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I am very saddened by this news, Eric was a huge force in the Rover
movement, and I will always be grateful for the help he always gave, the
advice and friendship. He will be missed.
Thankyou,
Scott.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
To: "'Rovernet'" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
>
> While I never met Eric, I felt I knew him because of his kindness and
> competence...and his superb taste in cars!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On
> Behalf Of Dirk Burrowes
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 11:13 AM
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
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>
> It is with great sadness that I inform the Rovernet community of the
> passing
> of Eric Russell. As most of you know Eric has been a great friend to
> everyone Rover inclined. It is Eric we have to thank for the Rovernet and
> the efforts to spread knowledge worldwide regarding these cars we love.
>
> Eric left this world with his life long partner, best friend and loving
> wife
> Linda by his side.
>
> I am sure Linda would appreciate any comments and remembrances posted to
> the
> Rovernet regarding your memories of Eric.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-request at rovernet.ca
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From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Sun Jul 17 19:58:07 2011
From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 00:58:07 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] ARRRRRGGGHHH! or something unprintable
Message-ID: <BAY153-w211078E570B87C6D13B300DE4A0@phx.gbl>
Went to go to Brits in the Park today .....a nice British car show in Lindsay Ontario.....They also have Muscle cars on the Main street and all the side streets ...say 1200-1500 Muscle cars and such and 200 British cars in the Park..........Well left with car club but they drove too slow and i decided to take the side roads and get a better spot in the shade.......Pulled out on the main highway again and put my foot down but the throttle hung wide open as i was changing from 2nd to 3rd with a big truck closing in on me......quickly turned the car off , braked and pulled off the road.....I felt the gas pedal was working so restarted but same result.....flat out......i managed to unstick the throttle linkage but by now my TC was hurting bad........limped home on what i thought was 3 cylinders........lifted the valve cover.....turns out i was on 2 cylinders......broke 2 valve tappets(buckets) bent one valve and wrecked the spring and collets and broke the chain tensioner, yet it wedged against chain so never lost timing...............And my buddy asks how was your day.....its too hot to work in garage..........I Love my Rover ...I love my Rover ....keep telling myself that
Cheers
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From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Fri Jul 15 21:42:09 2011
From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:12:09 +0930
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
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Message-ID: <4E20FA81.1040809@ozemail.com.au>
Hi all
I never met Eric personally, but he certainly had a huge, warm heart to
all on this list and everything Rover.
He will be sadly missed, but is now in a much better place
Our condolences go out to Linda, but rest assured he is in a much better
place with his Maker.
Rest in peace mate.
God bless
Dave & Chris Read
South Oz
On 7/18/2011 3:43 AM, Dirk Burrowes wrote:
>
> It is with great sadness that I inform the Rovernet community of the passing of Eric Russell. As most of you know Eric has been a great friend to everyone Rover inclined. It is Eric we have to thank for the Rovernet and the efforts to spread knowledge worldwide regarding these cars we love.
>
> Eric left this world with his life long partner, best friend and loving wife Linda by his side.
>
> I am sure Linda would appreciate any comments and remembrances posted to the Rovernet regarding your memories of Eric.
From allangrp at gis.net Mon Jul 18 00:22:26 2011
From: allangrp at gis.net (Joe Allan)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 01:22:26 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] In Fond Memory of Eric Russell
In-Reply-To: <20110717140559.21615@web004.nyc1.bluetie.com>
References: <20110717140559.21615@web004.nyc1.bluetie.com>
Message-ID: <6393C412312040088AD009407F1BBFF3@testinst44469c>
Smile Because He Lived
You can shed tears that good friend Eric is gone,
or you can smile because he lived among us.
You can close your eyes and pray that Eric will come back,
or you can open your eyes and see all the good he left behind.
Your heart can be empty because you cannot see Eric,
or you can be full of the love that he shared with us.
You can turn your back on tomorrow and live yesterday,
or you can be happy for tomorrow because of yesterday.
You can remember Eric and only that he is now gone,
or you can cherish his memory and good work and let it live on.
You can cry and close your mind, be empty and turn back,
or you can do what Eric would want most from us:
Smile, open your eyes, love and go on.
Mari and I will miss you friend and mentor
and keep Linda in our thoughts and prayers.
Mari & Joe Allan
Sunday, 17th June 2011
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Dirk Burrowes
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 2:13 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
It is with great sadness that I inform the Rovernet community of the passing
of Eric Russell. As most of you know Eric has been a great friend to
everyone Rover inclined. It is Eric we have to thank for the Rovernet and
the efforts to spread knowledge worldwide regarding these cars we love.
Eric left this world with his life long partner, best friend and loving wife
Linda by his side.
I am sure Linda would appreciate any comments and remembrances posted to the
Rovernet regarding your memories of Eric.
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-request at rovernet.ca
Date: 07/17/2011 01:00 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 135, Issue 11
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From Chris.Powell at plesseysemi.com Mon Jul 18 02:36:12 2011
From: Chris.Powell at plesseysemi.com (Chris Powell)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 07:36:12 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
Message-ID: <FB84990D7056EE43B14E2DE7617F878A055BE28B@exchange.europe.plesseysemi.com>
I'm sorry to hear of the passing of Eric. It was great to meet him at RoveAmerica in 2009 and 2010 and to experience his enthusiasm for the Rover marque.
Chris Powell
Rover SD1 Club historian
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From RoverP6 at gmx.de Mon Jul 18 03:54:40 2011
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:54:40 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
References: <20110717140559.21615@web004.nyc1.bluetie.com>
Message-ID: <1C0A0B4F043842A08A4F96E433F0368D@rw>
Very sad news
Rest in peace, Eric - we will miss you
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info
-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: "Dirk Burrowes" <dburrowes at vy-tek.com>
An: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Gesendet: Sonntag, 17. Juli 2011 20:13
Betreff: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
It is with great sadness that I inform the Rovernet community of the passing of
Eric Russell. As most of you know Eric has been a great friend to everyone Rover
inclined. It is Eric we have to thank for the Rovernet and the efforts to spread
knowledge worldwide regarding these cars we love.
Eric left this world with his life long partner, best friend and loving wife
Linda by his side.
I am sure Linda would appreciate any comments and remembrances posted to the
Rovernet regarding your memories of Eric.
From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Mon Jul 18 05:06:40 2011
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 12:06:40 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Eric Russell
In-Reply-To: <1C0A0B4F043842A08A4F96E433F0368D@rw>
References: <20110717140559.21615@web004.nyc1.bluetie.com>
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Dear friends,
I am very sad today.
He was a kind man, very very active in our movement.
Please accept my heartfelt sympathy.
Best regards, GR.
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di RoverP6 at gmx.de
Inviato: luned? 18 luglio 2011 10.55
A: Rovernet
Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
Very sad news
Rest in peace, Eric - we will miss you
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info
-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: "Dirk Burrowes" <dburrowes at vy-tek.com>
An: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Gesendet: Sonntag, 17. Juli 2011 20:13
Betreff: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
It is with great sadness that I inform the Rovernet community of the passing of
Eric Russell. As most of you know Eric has been a great friend to everyone Rover
inclined. It is Eric we have to thank for the Rovernet and the efforts to spread
knowledge worldwide regarding these cars we love.
Eric left this world with his life long partner, best friend and loving wife
Linda by his side.
I am sure Linda would appreciate any comments and remembrances posted to the
Rovernet regarding your memories of Eric.
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From magnet at roverclub.org Mon Jul 18 06:43:57 2011
From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 07:43:57 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
In-Reply-To: <20110717140559.21615@web004.nyc1.bluetie.com>
References: <20110717140559.21615@web004.nyc1.bluetie.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP755B14E998FFA7CDD797AE914A0@phx.gbl>
We were deeply saddened to hear of Eric's passing -- he was such a kind
man with a quiet sense of humour that made him a delightful friend.
It's hard to imagine the Rover community without him.
Our thoughts and sympathy go out to Linda.
Bill and Cherie Daddis
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On 17-Jul-11 2:13 PM, Dirk Burrowes wrote:
> It is with great sadness that I inform the Rovernet community of the passing of Eric Russell. As most of you know Eric has been a great friend to everyone Rover inclined. It is Eric we have to thank for the Rovernet and the efforts to spread knowledge worldwide regarding these cars we love.
>
> Eric left this world with his life long partner, best friend and loving wife Linda by his side.
>
> I am sure Linda would appreciate any comments and remembrances posted to the Rovernet regarding your memories of Eric.
>
>
From hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu Mon Jul 18 06:57:19 2011
From: hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu (Henry Manwell)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 07:57:19 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] In Fond Memory of Eric Russell
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References: <20110717140559.21615@web004.nyc1.bluetie.com>
<6393C412312040088AD009407F1BBFF3@testinst44469c>
Message-ID: <73EB62AD-C1AB-41BA-986B-36AC11BBE2C5@alumni.bates.edu>
Eric Russell has left the world a better place than he found it. And he leaves us with the challenge of remembering his best qualities as we go forward interacting among our friends - and maybe especially, those not so friendly.
Perhaps you can tell us, Linda, whether he wrote any memoirs. I'd love to hear more about his story and, no doubt, about your important part in it, Linda.
Hank and Sally Manwell
On Jul 18, 2011, at 1:22 AM, Joe Allan wrote:
>
> Smile Because He Lived
>
> You can shed tears that good friend Eric is gone,
> or you can smile because he lived among us.
>
> You can close your eyes and pray that Eric will come back,
> or you can open your eyes and see all the good he left behind.
>
> Your heart can be empty because you cannot see Eric,
> or you can be full of the love that he shared with us.
>
> You can turn your back on tomorrow and live yesterday,
> or you can be happy for tomorrow because of yesterday.
>
> You can remember Eric and only that he is now gone,
> or you can cherish his memory and good work and let it live on.
>
> You can cry and close your mind, be empty and turn back,
> or you can do what Eric would want most from us:
>
> Smile, open your eyes, love and go on.
>
> Mari and I will miss you friend and mentor
>
> and keep Linda in our thoughts and prayers.
>
> Mari & Joe Allan
>
> Sunday, 17th June 2011
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
> Behalf Of Dirk Burrowes
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 2:13 PM
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
>
>
> It is with great sadness that I inform the Rovernet community of the passing
> of Eric Russell. As most of you know Eric has been a great friend to
> everyone Rover inclined. It is Eric we have to thank for the Rovernet and
> the efforts to spread knowledge worldwide regarding these cars we love.
>
> Eric left this world with his life long partner, best friend and loving wife
> Linda by his side.
>
> I am sure Linda would appreciate any comments and remembrances posted to the
> Rovernet regarding your memories of Eric.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-request at rovernet.ca
> Date: 07/17/2011 01:00 PM
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 135, Issue 11
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From robert at clocksoft.com Mon Jul 18 06:46:43 2011
From: robert at clocksoft.com (Robert Pinner)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 12:46:43 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
In-Reply-To: <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B9596D8536D@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel>
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Very sad news. Eric was at the forefront of the global Rover enthusiasts
community and has always run Rovernet in a friendly, informal, often
diplomatic but always enthusiastic way.
Someone who, despite having never met in person, I consider a privilege
and inspiration to have known.
From cfreeberg at juno.com Mon Jul 18 10:32:12 2011
From: cfreeberg at juno.com (cfreeberg at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:32:12 GMT
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
Message-ID: <20110718.083212.9207.0@webmail21.vgs.untd.com>
I never met Eric, but we talked on the phone occasionally, mostly to help me w/ a Rover dilemma. I can't imagine Rovernet without him. He was a fount of Rover savvy and lore. Knowing he was around lent a sense of confidence and contentment to we who are afflicted w/ the happy curse of loving cars. A real loss to us all. I join w/ all the Rovernetters who've movingly expressed their shock and sorrow at this news, and specially join with those who've hoped that Linda can put together an Eroc biography for us 'Netters.
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From irishrover1 at live.com Mon Jul 18 11:15:14 2011
From: irishrover1 at live.com (Frederick Ben Rodgers)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:15:14 -0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] Free parts
Message-ID: <COL111-W3526F0F19564605AA74D02874A0@phx.gbl>
Hi Folks
Just another reminder I still have a lot of parts in the barn for P4-P5-P6 doors, bonnets trunk lids engines gear boxes cyl heads and more, all free just cost of shipping. I have two low mileage freewheel gear boxes from 1949 & 53 P4-75's also free.
Regards Ben (irishrover)
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From peterprosser at yahoo.com Mon Jul 18 11:58:37 2011
From: peterprosser at yahoo.com (peter prosser)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:58:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Free parts
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I've replied to your posts before but never a reply.(not sure why) Perhaps its a club thing. I'm in New Brunswick which is very close compared to England. .? I am restoring(slowly) a 1959?p4.
--- On Mon, 7/18/11, Frederick Ben Rodgers <irishrover1 at live.com> wrote:
From: Frederick Ben Rodgers <irishrover1 at live.com>
Subject: [Rovernet ] Free parts
To: "rovernet at rovernet.ca" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Received: Monday, July 18, 2011, 1:15 PM
Hi Folks
? ? ? ? ? Just another reminder I still have a lot of parts in the barn for P4-P5-P6 doors, bonnets trunk lids engines gear boxes cyl heads and more, all free just cost of shipping. I have two low mileage freewheel gear boxes from 1949 & 53 P4-75's also free.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Regards Ben (irishrover)
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From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Mon Jul 18 12:08:07 2011
From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 17:08:07 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
Message-ID: <BAY153-w297A6ACA4107BF8751F54DE4A0@phx.gbl>
Condolences to the Russell family.........Eric was a fine gentleman who helped all here keep our Rover friendships going and was certainly a great help with information and advice to myself.....I will miss him ...........May he rest in peace
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From trymes at rymes.net Mon Jul 18 12:16:46 2011
From: trymes at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 13:16:46 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 Power Steering Fluid Reservoir Gasket
Message-ID: <4E246A7E.8020909@rymes.net>
Hello,
Does anyone have the measurements or a source for the large gasket that
seals the cover for a P5 power steering fluid reservoir to the body of
the reservoir?
I'm speaking of the main cover, not the dipstick gasket.
Here's a pic of the reservoir:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-v7TRp4p0ENs/Ta8oPTevg6I/AAAAAAAABhI/8zGV0E8AnKY/s1024/IMG_0202.jpg
Many thanks,
Tom
From trymes at rymes.net Mon Jul 18 12:19:28 2011
From: trymes at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 13:19:28 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 Power Steering Fluid Reservoir Gasket
In-Reply-To: <4E246A7E.8020909@rymes.net>
References: <4E246A7E.8020909@rymes.net>
Message-ID: <4E246B20.4060202@rymes.net>
On 07/18/2011 1:16 PM, Tom Rymes wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Does anyone have the measurements or a source for the large gasket that
> seals the cover for a P5 power steering fluid reservoir to the body of
> the reservoir?
>
> I'm speaking of the main cover, not the dipstick gasket.
>
> Here's a pic of the reservoir:
>
> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-v7TRp4p0ENs/Ta8oPTevg6I/AAAAAAAABhI/8zGV0E8AnKY/s1024/IMG_0202.jpg
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Tom
Hey, while I'm at it, how about a brake fluid reservoir. This is for a
3-Litre car.
Tom
From gbbourque at gmail.com Mon Jul 18 16:36:31 2011
From: gbbourque at gmail.com (garrett bourque)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 17:36:31 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 Power Steering Fluid Reservoir Gasket
In-Reply-To: <4E246A7E.8020909@rymes.net>
References: <4E246A7E.8020909@rymes.net>
Message-ID: <CAJBLATStx27U-j5771_ddn8XYTgeCvWyu_E3UhrY109KcLeJQg@mail.gmail.com>
Hello Tom and Rovernet,
The power steering reservoir in the photo is also used in 60s Jaguar
sedans. The filter inside and the top gasket are available from classic Jag
parts suppliers such as XKs unlimited in California 800 444 5247, a large
and reputable parts company. On the east coast, try SNG Barratt in New
Hampshire, the other heavy hitter selling Jag parts on this side of the
country. Their number is 1 603 622 1050. Wirh either company, tell them you
have a Jaguar Mark2 with power steering made between 60 and 66 with power
steering. The reservior and the parts of it are the same thing.
Good luck,
Garrett Bourque
GB Services Auto Restoration
Jefferson, Maine 04348
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Tom Rymes <trymes at rymes.net> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Does anyone have the measurements or a source for the large gasket that
> seals the cover for a P5 power steering fluid reservoir to the body of the
> reservoir?
>
> I'm speaking of the main cover, not the dipstick gasket.
>
> Here's a pic of the reservoir:
>
> https://lh4.googleusercontent.**com/-v7TRp4p0ENs/Ta8oPTevg6I/**
> AAAAAAAABhI/8zGV0E8AnKY/s1024/**IMG_0202.jpg<https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-v7TRp4p0ENs/Ta8oPTevg6I/AAAAAAAABhI/8zGV0E8AnKY/s1024/IMG_0202.jpg>
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Tom
>
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From trymes at rymes.net Mon Jul 18 16:43:51 2011
From: trymes at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 17:43:51 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 Power Steering Fluid Reservoir Gasket
In-Reply-To: <CAJBLATStx27U-j5771_ddn8XYTgeCvWyu_E3UhrY109KcLeJQg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4E246A7E.8020909@rymes.net>
<CAJBLATStx27U-j5771_ddn8XYTgeCvWyu_E3UhrY109KcLeJQg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49E5F8D3-EAEF-440F-8AD9-24CECE66C280@rymes.net>
On Jul 18, 2011, at 5:36 PM, garrett bourque wrote:
> Hello Tom and Rovernet,
> The power steering reservoir in the photo is also used in 60s Jaguar
> sedans. The filter inside and the top gasket are available from classic Jag
> parts suppliers such as XKs unlimited in California 800 444 5247, a large
> and reputable parts company. On the east coast, try SNG Barratt in New
> Hampshire, the other heavy hitter selling Jag parts on this side of the
> country. Their number is 1 603 622 1050. Wirh either company, tell them you
> have a Jaguar Mark2 with power steering made between 60 and 66 with power
> steering. The reservior and the parts of it are the same thing.
> Good luck,
> Garrett Bourque
> GB Services Auto Restoration
> Jefferson, Maine 04348
Thank you for the information, Garrett. You are my own personal hero.
Has anyone compiled a publicly available list of parts that can be found on other vehicles? I had heard that brake flex lines may be the same as a TR3, though details were lacking. The same goes with ordering bits from Rovers North. They are happy to try to help, but you need to know what to tell them, and a public list would be helpful...
Thanks again!
Tom
From rich at fitz.us Mon Jul 18 17:43:22 2011
From: rich at fitz.us (Richard Fitzpatrick)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:43:22 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] Free parts
In-Reply-To: <COL111-W3526F0F19564605AA74D02874A0@phx.gbl>
References: <COL111-W3526F0F19564605AA74D02874A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <E11CD5C1-CF8F-40D5-A974-D1AA9C1BDC35@fitz.us>
Hi I have 3 P5 coupes I am working on and could use any P5 Coupe body
bits as mine are all in pretty bad shape.
Richard Fitzpatrick
rich at fitz.us
On Jul 18, 2011, at 10:15 AM, Frederick Ben Rodgers wrote:
>
>
> Hi Folks
> Just another reminder I still have a lot of parts in the
> barn for P4-P5-P6 doors, bonnets trunk lids engines gear boxes cyl
> heads and more, all free just cost of shipping. I have two low
> mileage freewheel gear boxes from 1949 & 53 P4-75's also free.
> Regards Ben (irishrover)
> *************
> My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available
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From scareycolin54 at live.co.uk Mon Jul 18 17:57:56 2011
From: scareycolin54 at live.co.uk (Colin Gould)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:57:56 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Free parts
In-Reply-To: <E11CD5C1-CF8F-40D5-A974-D1AA9C1BDC35@fitz.us>
References: <COL111-W3526F0F19564605AA74D02874A0@phx.gbl>,
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Message-ID: <BLU133-W169F4D8392CC63EBFD48CC874A0@phx.gbl>
Hi All
I have just been offfered a set of 4 NEW wings ( fenders ) for a Rover P5 ---not sure if they are for a P5 or P5b yet , are they of interest to anybody ?? they are located in Swindon , England
Let me know asap , I will be looking at them Saturday 23 july to confirm exactly what they are etc etc
TTFN
Colin
> From: rich at fitz.us
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:43:22 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Free parts
>
>
> Hi I have 3 P5 coupes I am working on and could use any P5 Coupe body
> bits as mine are all in pretty bad shape.
>
> Richard Fitzpatrick
> rich at fitz.us
>
>
>
> On Jul 18, 2011, at 10:15 AM, Frederick Ben Rodgers wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Folks
> > Just another reminder I still have a lot of parts in the
> > barn for P4-P5-P6 doors, bonnets trunk lids engines gear boxes cyl
> > heads and more, all free just cost of shipping. I have two low
> > mileage freewheel gear boxes from 1949 & 53 P4-75's also free.
> > Regards Ben (irishrover)
> > *************
> > My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available
> > as E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com
> > Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS
> > Ganges, Royal Navy?
> > then
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From bsaunders at firstva.com Mon Jul 18 19:22:21 2011
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 20:22:21 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Free parts
In-Reply-To: <COL111-W3526F0F19564605AA74D02874A0@phx.gbl>
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Ben to Ben,
I am still looking for a Rover P5 manual shifter assembly to use in my P3.
This will make it look more original that the P4 shifter that I have in it
now which has a bit of a clearance problem with the bottom edge of the dash.
If you or anyone else knows where I might get this assembly please let me
know.
Cheers,
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Frederick Ben Rodgers
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 12:15 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet ] Free parts
Hi Folks
Just another reminder I still have a lot of parts in the barn for
P4-P5-P6 doors, bonnets trunk lids engines gear boxes cyl heads and more,
all free just cost of shipping. I have two low mileage freewheel gear boxes
from 1949 & 53 P4-75's also free.
Regards Ben (irishrover)
*************
My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available as
E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com
Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges,
Royal Navy?
then
Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com
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From p4roverman at yahoo.com Mon Jul 18 22:17:12 2011
From: p4roverman at yahoo.com (Rover Man)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 20:17:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell (Nelson O'Riley)
Message-ID: <1311045432.20158.YahooMailRC@web112716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Thanks for the help in the past with Rover stuff.
With RoverNet and all,? thanks Mr.Russuell
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From tnrholmes at gmail.com Mon Jul 18 22:17:40 2011
From: tnrholmes at gmail.com (Robert Holmes)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 23:17:40 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Free parts
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Ben,
Where are you located? Thanks,
Rob Holmes
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Frederick Ben Rodgers <
irishrover1 at live.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Folks
> Just another reminder I still have a lot of parts in the barn for
> P4-P5-P6 doors, bonnets trunk lids engines gear boxes cyl heads and more,
> all free just cost of shipping. I have two low mileage freewheel gear boxes
> from 1949 & 53 P4-75's also free.
> Regards Ben (irishrover)
> *************
> My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available as
> E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com
> Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges,
> Royal Navy?
> then
> Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com
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From joncarter at cox.net Mon Jul 18 23:25:29 2011
From: joncarter at cox.net (joncarter at cox.net)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 21:25:29 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Free parts
In-Reply-To: <COL111-W3526F0F19564605AA74D02874A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20110719002529.QOXGN.222902.imail@fed1rmwml40>
Hi Ben,
I picked up a 1963 P5 sedan from the SF Bay area (the rougher one of the pair mentioned on Rovernet a few months ago). I need an exhaust manifold, air cleaner, trunk lid, rear bumper, and a pair of taillight housings with lenses. Also some small pieces such as the front turn signal and running light lenses, and a straight front grille assembly. You can contact me off Rovernet regarding shipping costs and what you have available. My e-mail is: joncarter at cox.net, and I'm in Phoenix, AZ.
Thanks,
Jon Carter
---- Frederick Ben Rodgers <irishrover1 at live.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Folks
> Just another reminder I still have a lot of parts in the barn for P4-P5-P6 doors, bonnets trunk lids engines gear boxes cyl heads and more, all free just cost of shipping. I have two low mileage freewheel gear boxes from 1949 & 53 P4-75's also free.
> Regards Ben (irishrover)
> *************
> My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available as E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com
> Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges, Royal Navy?
> then
> Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com
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From p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Jul 19 02:48:01 2011
From: p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk (p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 08:48:01 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet ] Spares avaiable in San Francisco area
Message-ID: <0DEDCE584B3C428C804691385D064764@SN037535920331>
Hi All, I have just had the following email land in my inbox and thought there maybe someone interested on here..
2"I have a 4 cyl. aluminum head motor w/ fly wheel, bell housing, 4 speed trans. and 3rd. member assy. no rotors or axles I am in the San Francisco area and would to find a club or club member near by that would like to have these parts cheeeeeep! This motor belonged to a friend that died almost 2 yrs. ago. If you could forward this message thru your network of clubs you might make 2 people very happy. Thank you. Willie cashman mewillie02 at msn.com ""
Speak Soon
Warmest regards
Mark
Mark Gray
Editor, Driving Force
The Rover P6 Club
www.p6club.com
editor at p6club.com
Club line 01902 689975
Mobile 078 333 48030
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From irishrover1 at live.com Tue Jul 19 04:03:01 2011
From: irishrover1 at live.com (Frederick Ben Rodgers)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 07:03:01 -0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] Free parts
In-Reply-To: <CAB-Rr+x8A6Lm2+PP_+sQHMp_O=SStE8GhFmbAoOiK6iy18+Z5Q@mail.gmail.com>
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<CAB-Rr+x8A6Lm2+PP_+sQHMp_O=SStE8GhFmbAoOiK6iy18+Z5Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <COL111-W49C00C0B71636D52600F96874D0@phx.gbl>
Hi Robb
I'm located on Prince Edward island, Canada.
Ben
*************
My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available as E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com
Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges, Royal Navy?
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> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 23:17:40 -0400
> From: tnrholmes at gmail.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Free parts
>
>
> Ben,
> Where are you located? Thanks,
> Rob Holmes
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Frederick Ben Rodgers <
> irishrover1 at live.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Folks
> > Just another reminder I still have a lot of parts in the barn for
> > P4-P5-P6 doors, bonnets trunk lids engines gear boxes cyl heads and more,
> > all free just cost of shipping. I have two low mileage freewheel gear boxes
> > from 1949 & 53 P4-75's also free.
> > Regards Ben (irishrover)
> > *************
> > My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available as
> > E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com
> > Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges,
> > Royal Navy?
> > then
> > Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com
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From irishrover1 at live.com Tue Jul 19 04:25:17 2011
From: irishrover1 at live.com (Frederick Ben Rodgers)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 07:25:17 -0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] Free parts
In-Reply-To: <30F338BE233E4823BD35C4D89468FF65@SD1>
References: <COL111-W3526F0F19564605AA74D02874A0@phx.gbl>,
<30F338BE233E4823BD35C4D89468FF65@SD1>
Message-ID: <COL111-W8D589D7F57444477D07E5874D0@phx.gbl>
Hi Ben
Can't help you with the shifter, my P5 is auto. What about a P6 could you use it? There is a P3 for sale in Annapolis Royal, Nova Scotia. Doesn't look too bad in the photos but I doubt it would be rust free?? You can look it up on kijiji item#294104238, go to Annapolis Valley location the owner is asking $6,900 Cdn.
regards Ben
*************
My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available as E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com
Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges, Royal Navy?
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> From: bsaunders at firstva.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 20:22:21 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Free parts
>
>
> Ben to Ben,
>
> I am still looking for a Rover P5 manual shifter assembly to use in my P3.
> This will make it look more original that the P4 shifter that I have in it
> now which has a bit of a clearance problem with the bottom edge of the dash.
> If you or anyone else knows where I might get this assembly please let me
> know.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ben
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
> Behalf Of Frederick Ben Rodgers
> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 12:15 PM
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Free parts
>
>
>
> Hi Folks
> Just another reminder I still have a lot of parts in the barn for
> P4-P5-P6 doors, bonnets trunk lids engines gear boxes cyl heads and more,
> all free just cost of shipping. I have two low mileage freewheel gear boxes
> from 1949 & 53 P4-75's also free.
> Regards Ben (irishrover)
> *************
> My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available as
> E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com
> Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges,
> Royal Navy?
> then
> Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com
>
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From bsaunders at firstva.com Tue Jul 19 07:45:50 2011
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 08:45:50 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Free parts
In-Reply-To: <COL111-W8D589D7F57444477D07E5874D0@phx.gbl>
References: <COL111-W3526F0F19564605AA74D02874A0@phx.gbl>,
<30F338BE233E4823BD35C4D89468FF65@SD1>
<COL111-W8D589D7F57444477D07E5874D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <76950971E7AF452AA1B981E1F0514FDE@SD1>
Hi Ben,
That is a very nice P3 and if I did not have the one I have now I would be
very tempted to get it. I almost bought a green one from a chap in Canada
some years back but the wife said no and now I am glad she did. This one I
have now was an early 1948 LHD 75 SS that I put a 1959 Rover P4 100 drive
train in and should perform very well once on the road. I was impressed with
my 1960 P4 100 which has the same drive train.
Ben
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From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Frederick Ben Rodgers
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:25 AM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Free parts
Hi Ben
Can't help you with the shifter, my P5 is auto. What about a P6
could you use it? There is a P3 for sale in Annapolis Royal, Nova Scotia.
Doesn't look too bad in the photos but I doubt it would be rust free?? You
can look it up on kijiji item#294104238, go to Annapolis Valley location the
owner is asking $6,900 Cdn.
regards Ben
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> From: bsaunders at firstva.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 20:22:21 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Free parts
>
>
> Ben to Ben,
>
> I am still looking for a Rover P5 manual shifter assembly to use in my P3.
> This will make it look more original that the P4 shifter that I have in it
> now which has a bit of a clearance problem with the bottom edge of the
dash.
> If you or anyone else knows where I might get this assembly please let me
> know.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ben
>
> -----Original Message-----
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On
> Behalf Of Frederick Ben Rodgers
> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 12:15 PM
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Free parts
>
>
>
> Hi Folks
> Just another reminder I still have a lot of parts in the barn
for
> P4-P5-P6 doors, bonnets trunk lids engines gear boxes cyl heads and more,
> all free just cost of shipping. I have two low mileage freewheel gear
boxes
> from 1949 & 53 P4-75's also free.
> Regards Ben (irishrover)
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From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Tue Jul 19 08:10:07 2011
From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:10:07 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
In-Reply-To: <20110717140559.21615@web004.nyc1.bluetie.com>
References: <20110717140559.21615@web004.nyc1.bluetie.com>
Message-ID: <4E25822F.5090009@alum.swarthmore.edu>
Looking back over 10 to 15 years of Rover activities in the US, most of
it was facilitated in some way by Eric Russell. Rovernet and RCCC
enabled a new community of US Rover enthusiasts and connected us with
international Rover fans.
Eric put much time and effort into keeping the mechanics of Rovernet
going, but he also diplomatically maintained a congenial atmosphere. He
generously shared his expertise on Rover 2000's -- often responding to
technical questions with a detailed, step-by-step procedure.
Eric and Linda traveled to four of the Rove America events in
Massachusetts, including the latest this June. They saw the potential
in this event and enjoyed particpating, but their presence helped to
make it an international event and their enthusiasm encouraged more
people to attend. Here is a link to photos from four RA meets that
illustrate many of the thoughts that have already been shared about Eric.
One of the photos is not of Eric or Linda -- it was a photo op at RA11
that both Eric and I noticed at the same time. It's memorable to me
because Eric was enjoying the possibilities for a caption; "The doctor
is in," etc, etc.
https://picasaweb.google.com/107027439303297656543/EricRussell?authuser=0&feat=directlink
--Steve Manwell
On 7/17/2011 2:13 PM, Dirk Burrowes wrote:
> It is with great sadness that I inform the Rovernet community of the passing of Eric Russell. As most of you know Eric has been a great friend to everyone Rover inclined. It is Eric we have to thank for the Rovernet and the efforts to spread knowledge worldwide regarding these cars we love.
>
> Eric left this world with his life long partner, best friend and loving wife Linda by his side.
>
> I am sure Linda would appreciate any comments and remembrances posted to the Rovernet regarding your memories of Eric.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Tue Jul 19 08:37:43 2011
From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:37:43 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell -- corrected link to photos
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<4E25822F.5090009@alum.swarthmore.edu>
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https://picasaweb.google.com/107027439303297656543/EricRussell?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCODSobDJvt3etQE&feat=directlink
On 7/19/2011 9:10 AM, S Manwell wrote:
>
> Looking back over 10 to 15 years of Rover activities in the US, most
> of it was facilitated in some way by Eric Russell. Rovernet and RCCC
> enabled a new community of US Rover enthusiasts and connected us with
> international Rover fans.
>
> Eric put much time and effort into keeping the mechanics of Rovernet
> going, but he also diplomatically maintained a congenial atmosphere.
> He generously shared his expertise on Rover 2000's -- often responding
> to technical questions with a detailed, step-by-step procedure.
>
> Eric and Linda traveled to four of the Rove America events in
> Massachusetts, including the latest this June. They saw the potential
> in this event and enjoyed particpating, but their presence helped to
> make it an international event and their enthusiasm encouraged more
> people to attend. Here is a link to photos from four RA meets that
> illustrate many of the thoughts that have already been shared about Eric.
>
> One of the photos is not of Eric or Linda -- it was a photo op at RA11
> that both Eric and I noticed at the same time. It's memorable to me
> because Eric was enjoying the possibilities for a caption; "The doctor
> is in," etc, etc.
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/107027439303297656543/EricRussell?authuser=0&feat=directlink
>
>
> --Steve Manwell
>
>
>
> On 7/17/2011 2:13 PM, Dirk Burrowes wrote:
>> It is with great sadness that I inform the Rovernet community of the
>> passing of Eric Russell. As most of you know Eric has been a great
>> friend to everyone Rover inclined. It is Eric we have to thank for
>> the Rovernet and the efforts to spread knowledge worldwide regarding
>> these cars we love.
>>
>> Eric left this world with his life long partner, best friend and
>> loving wife Linda by his side.
>>
>> I am sure Linda would appreciate any comments and remembrances posted
>> to the Rovernet regarding your memories of Eric.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Date: 07/17/2011 01:00 PM
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From irishrover1 at live.com Tue Jul 19 08:08:13 2011
From: irishrover1 at live.com (Frederick Ben Rodgers)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:08:13 -0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 Rear axle question
Message-ID: <COL111-W2888294FF8CCA98E3AF26F874D0@phx.gbl>
Hi Folks
Another question! am I right in assuming that the rear axle application has not changed over the range of the P4's 1949-64 (exception might be Roverdrive Model) Thanks for your help.
Regards Ben (irishrover)
*************
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From dirk at vy-tek.com Tue Jul 19 12:34:40 2011
From: dirk at vy-tek.com (Dirk Burrowes)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:34:40 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric in Photos
Message-ID: <1FA050413D724CFC9FB4BB9CC29D949D@DirkPC2>
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:10:07 -0400
From: S Manwell <s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu>
To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
Message-ID: <4E25822F.5090009 at alum.swarthmore.edu>
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Looking back over 10 to 15 years of Rover activities in the US, most of
it was facilitated in some way by Eric Russell. Rovernet and RCCC
enabled a new community of US Rover enthusiasts and connected us with
international Rover fans.
Eric put much time and effort into keeping the mechanics of Rovernet
going, but he also diplomatically maintained a congenial atmosphere. He
generously shared his expertise on Rover 2000's -- often responding to
technical questions with a detailed, step-by-step procedure.
Eric and Linda traveled to four of the Rove America events in
Massachusetts, including the latest this June. They saw the potential
in this event and enjoyed particpating, but their presence helped to
make it an international event and their enthusiasm encouraged more
people to attend. Here is a link to photos from four RA meets that
illustrate many of the thoughts that have already been shared about Eric.
One of the photos is not of Eric or Linda -- it was a photo op at RA11
that both Eric and I noticed at the same time. It's memorable to me
because Eric was enjoying the possibilities for a caption; "The doctor
is in," etc, etc.
<https://picasaweb.google.com/107027439303297656543/EricRussell?authuser=0&f
eat=directlink>
https://picasaweb.google.com/107027439303297656543/EricRussell?authuser=0&fe
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From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com Tue Jul 19 14:02:32 2011
From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 19:02:32 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 Rear axle question
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There may be detail changes, but AFAIK the basic design remained unchanged throughout. Diff gear ratios were changed however - especially between units ordered with or specified without overdrive. Swapping out diffs units is an easy job and are interchangeable with Series 2/2A Land Rovers, albeit with very different gear ratios!
> From: irishrover1 at live.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:08:13 -0200
> Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 Rear axle question
>
>
>
> Hi Folks
> Another question! am I right in assuming that the rear axle application has not changed over the range of the P4's 1949-64 (exception might be Roverdrive Model) Thanks for your help.
> Regards Ben (irishrover)
>
> *************
> My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available as E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com
> Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges, Royal Navy?
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From irishrover1 at live.com Tue Jul 19 14:40:48 2011
From: irishrover1 at live.com (Frederick Ben Rodgers)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:40:48 -0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 Rear axle question
In-Reply-To: <BLU157-w55B116936A1F4134B2E5C5B84D0@phx.gbl>
References: <COL111-W2888294FF8CCA98E3AF26F874D0@phx.gbl>,
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Hi Richard
Thanks for the quick response,I think you are right, I have four or five rear axles here from different cars and they all look the same. I'm not going to do the job until I lay the car up for winter then it will just be a matter of matching.
regards Ben (irishrover)
*************
My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available as E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com
Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges, Royal Navy?
then
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> From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 19:02:32 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P4 Rear axle question
>
>
>
> There may be detail changes, but AFAIK the basic design remained unchanged throughout. Diff gear ratios were changed however - especially between units ordered with or specified without overdrive. Swapping out diffs units is an easy job and are interchangeable with Series 2/2A Land Rovers, albeit with very different gear ratios!
>
> > From: irishrover1 at live.com
> > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:08:13 -0200
> > Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 Rear axle question
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Folks
> > Another question! am I right in assuming that the rear axle application has not changed over the range of the P4's 1949-64 (exception might be Roverdrive Model) Thanks for your help.
> > Regards Ben (irishrover)
> >
> > *************
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From adrian.mcdonald at live.com Tue Jul 19 23:06:33 2011
From: adrian.mcdonald at live.com (Adrian McDonald)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:06:33 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
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I also have been rather quiet of late, like a few others but even in my relatively short and low radar Rover activities it is clear that Eric was a nice fellow, and liked to help others. If everyone could be a little bit more like that, well that would reduce a lot of problems everywhere.
Adrian
> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 14:13:14 -0400
> CC:
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> From: dburrowes at vy-tek.com
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell
>
>
> It is with great sadness that I inform the Rovernet community of the passing of Eric Russell. As most of you know Eric has been a great friend to everyone Rover inclined. It is Eric we have to thank for the Rovernet and the efforts to spread knowledge worldwide regarding these cars we love.
>
> Eric left this world with his life long partner, best friend and loving wife Linda by his side.
>
> I am sure Linda would appreciate any comments and remembrances posted to the Rovernet regarding your memories of Eric.
>
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From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com Wed Jul 20 04:26:19 2011
From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 09:26:19 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 Rear axle question
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Hi Ben
The axle casing is the thing that has to be right for your model, so seeing if the part number is the same across the range will be confirmatory. If pulling the axle is a planned winter project, I'd be inclined to find a direct replacement from your stock of spares and start chipping away at giving that spare a complete overhaul so that come winter you have a fully reconned unit to swap onto your car. But that's just me :7!
Cheers
Richard
> From: irishrover1 at live.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:40:48 -0200
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P4 Rear axle question
>
>
>
> Hi Richard
> Thanks for the quick response,I think you are right, I have four or five rear axles here from different cars and they all look the same. I'm not going to do the job until I lay the car up for winter then it will just be a matter of matching.
> regards Ben (irishrover)
>
> *************
> My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available as E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com
> Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges, Royal Navy?
> then
> Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com
>
>
> > From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com
> > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 19:02:32 +0000
> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P4 Rear axle question
> >
> >
> >
> > There may be detail changes, but AFAIK the basic design remained unchanged throughout. Diff gear ratios were changed however - especially between units ordered with or specified without overdrive. Swapping out diffs units is an easy job and are interchangeable with Series 2/2A Land Rovers, albeit with very different gear ratios!
> >
> > > From: irishrover1 at live.com
> > > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:08:13 -0200
> > > Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 Rear axle question
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Folks
> > > Another question! am I right in assuming that the rear axle application has not changed over the range of the P4's 1949-64 (exception might be Roverdrive Model) Thanks for your help.
> > > Regards Ben (irishrover)
> > >
> > > *************
> > > My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available as E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com
> > > Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges, Royal Navy?
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From irishrover1 at live.com Wed Jul 20 04:16:43 2011
From: irishrover1 at live.com (Frederick Ben Rodgers)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 07:16:43 -0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 Rear axle question
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Hi Richard
You read my mind, I'm in the process of preparing two half shafts for my winter project, they will be clean and painted ready to pop in (I hope).
Ben
*************
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> From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 09:26:19 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P4 Rear axle question
>
>
>
> Hi Ben
> The axle casing is the thing that has to be right for your model, so seeing if the part number is the same across the range will be confirmatory. If pulling the axle is a planned winter project, I'd be inclined to find a direct replacement from your stock of spares and start chipping away at giving that spare a complete overhaul so that come winter you have a fully reconned unit to swap onto your car. But that's just me :7!
> Cheers
> Richard
>
>
> > From: irishrover1 at live.com
> > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:40:48 -0200
> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P4 Rear axle question
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Richard
> > Thanks for the quick response,I think you are right, I have four or five rear axles here from different cars and they all look the same. I'm not going to do the job until I lay the car up for winter then it will just be a matter of matching.
> > regards Ben (irishrover)
> >
> > *************
> > My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available as E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com
> > Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges, Royal Navy?
> > then
> > Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com
> >
> >
> > > From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com
> > > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 19:02:32 +0000
> > > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P4 Rear axle question
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > There may be detail changes, but AFAIK the basic design remained unchanged throughout. Diff gear ratios were changed however - especially between units ordered with or specified without overdrive. Swapping out diffs units is an easy job and are interchangeable with Series 2/2A Land Rovers, albeit with very different gear ratios!
> > >
> > > > From: irishrover1 at live.com
> > > > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > > > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:08:13 -0200
> > > > Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 Rear axle question
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Folks
> > > > Another question! am I right in assuming that the rear axle application has not changed over the range of the P4's 1949-64 (exception might be Roverdrive Model) Thanks for your help.
> > > > Regards Ben (irishrover)
> > > >
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From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 16:52:44 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Opportunity, Rover on Mars
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http://www.corriere.it/scienze_e_tecnologie/11_luglio_20/marte-opportunity-rover_562562c0-b2c7-11e0-97dd-09b07ad852d4.shtml
Opportunity, Rover on Mars
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Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Frederick Ben Rodgers
Inviato: mercoled? 20 luglio 2011 11.17
A: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet ] P4 Rear axle question
Hi Richard
You read my mind, I'm in the process of preparing two half shafts for my winter project, they will be clean and painted ready to pop in (I hope).
Ben
*************
My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available as E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com
Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges, Royal Navy?
then
Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com
> From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 09:26:19 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P4 Rear axle question
>
>
>
> Hi Ben
> The axle casing is the thing that has to be right for your model, so seeing if the part number is the same across the range will be confirmatory. If pulling the axle is a planned winter project, I'd be inclined to find a direct replacement from your stock of spares and start chipping away at giving that spare a complete overhaul so that come winter you have a fully reconned unit to swap onto your car. But that's just me :7!
> Cheers
> Richard
>
>
> > From: irishrover1 at live.com
> > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:40:48 -0200
> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P4 Rear axle question
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Richard
> > Thanks for the quick response,I think you are right, I have four or five rear axles here from different cars and they all look the same. I'm not going to do the job until I lay the car up for winter then it will just be a matter of matching.
> > regards Ben (irishrover)
> >
> > *************
> > My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available as E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com
> > Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges, Royal Navy?
> > then
> > Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com
> >
> >
> > > From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com
> > > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 19:02:32 +0000
> > > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P4 Rear axle question
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > There may be detail changes, but AFAIK the basic design remained unchanged throughout. Diff gear ratios were changed however - especially between units ordered with or specified without overdrive. Swapping out diffs units is an easy job and are interchangeable with Series 2/2A Land Rovers, albeit with very different gear ratios!
> > >
> > > > From: irishrover1 at live.com
> > > > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > > > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:08:13 -0200
> > > > Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 Rear axle question
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Folks
> > > > Another question! am I right in assuming that the rear axle application has not changed over the range of the P4's 1949-64 (exception might be Roverdrive Model) Thanks for your help.
> > > > Regards Ben (irishrover)
> > > >
> > > > *************
> > > > My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available as E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com
> > > > Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges, Royal Navy?
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From cjchristie at cjcm-inc.com Wed Jul 20 11:40:10 2011
From: cjchristie at cjcm-inc.com (Craig Christie)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 12:40:10 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 Census 2012
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I own a 1975 Rover 2200, in Toronto, Canada. The car was originally exported
to Italy, VIN #86800491E. It is in very good condition, is licensed and
driven daily during the summer months.
Craig Christie
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 4:54 AM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 Census 2012
Hi all
I know the following has been a subject of conversation before and I know
some of you already have databases but I am conducting a census of P6's to
establish just how many are surviving.
The census was originally going to be of UK cars but seeing as our database
is already more extensive than that, I now plan to make this a worldwide
census so that we can produce a relatively accurate count so can I please
ask that you visit the page on the Rover P6 Club website which is dedicated
to the P6 Census as there is a contact email address there for details to be
sent to.
www<dot>p6club<dot>com/node/335 (please replace <dot> with . thankyou)
This census has come into being after the DVLA published statistics about
cars in the UK that are 'Licensed' and on 'SORN'. For those of you who don't
know the UK system, 'licensed' means taxed for the road and 'SORN' means
Statory Off Road Notification, in other words cars that exist on the system
but aren't on the road, for what every reason, be it the winter months,
under going restoration or just parked up. However there is a larger groupl
on 'unlicensed' cars , these may have been scraped and not declared or they
may be parked up in a garage somewhere waiting to be discovered again,
either way these are the great unknowns.
So the plan is to get a closer count to what is really out there
Please help by send what ever details you know of what ever P6's that still
exist.
Speak Soon
Warmest regards
Mark
Mark Gray
Editor, Driving Force
The Rover P6 Club
www.p6club.com
editor at p6club.com
Club line 01902 689975
Mobile 078 333 48030
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From geffandjulie at comcast.net Thu Jul 21 00:35:16 2011
From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:35:16 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 Census 2012
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<BF44618AF015435BB31F01FE710A2C41@christie>
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AvMedSafe
Geoffrey W. McCarthy MD MBA DipAvMed
677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR USA 97210
503-241-8468(h) 503-799-3809 (mobile)
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Craig Christie
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:40 AM
To: 'Rovernet'
Cc: editor at p6club.com
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P6 Census 2012
I own a 1975 Rover 2200, in Toronto, Canada. The car was originally exported
to Italy, VIN #86800491E. It is in very good condition, is licensed and
driven daily during the summer months.
Craig Christie
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 4:54 AM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 Census 2012
Hi all
I know the following has been a subject of conversation before and I know
some of you already have databases but I am conducting a census of P6's to
establish just how many are surviving.
The census was originally going to be of UK cars but seeing as our database
is already more extensive than that, I now plan to make this a worldwide
census so that we can produce a relatively accurate count so can I please
ask that you visit the page on the Rover P6 Club website which is dedicated
to the P6 Census as there is a contact email address there for details to be
sent to.
www<dot>p6club<dot>com/node/335 (please replace <dot> with . thankyou)
This census has come into being after the DVLA published statistics about
cars in the UK that are 'Licensed' and on 'SORN'. For those of you who don't
know the UK system, 'licensed' means taxed for the road and 'SORN' means
Statory Off Road Notification, in other words cars that exist on the system
but aren't on the road, for what every reason, be it the winter months,
under going restoration or just parked up. However there is a larger groupl
on 'unlicensed' cars , these may have been scraped and not declared or they
may be parked up in a garage somewhere waiting to be discovered again,
either way these are the great unknowns.
So the plan is to get a closer count to what is really out there
Please help by send what ever details you know of what ever P6's that still
exist.
Speak Soon
Warmest regards
Mark
Mark Gray
Editor, Driving Force
The Rover P6 Club
www.p6club.com
editor at p6club.com
Club line 01902 689975
Mobile 078 333 48030
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From geffandjulie at comcast.net Thu Jul 21 00:37:07 2011
From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:37:07 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Alternator woes
Message-ID: <000601cc4768$3b8ba480$b2a2ed80$@net>
I have had the alternator re-built; it tests good. But, still no charging power. The ground is good, and battery voltage is 11.7 for the field. I even cleaned the fuse contacts, but am out if ideas. Help?
PS: It is a GM-like marine alternator, but looks very similar to the shop manual photos.
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From RoverP6 at gmx.de Thu Jul 21 04:34:48 2011
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:34:48 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 with small wheels.....
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<000501cc4767$f9503a90$ebf0afb0$@net>
Message-ID: <24FCC1EE8FE4465BAEDC15DD7796DC4E@rw>
http://www.modifiedcars.com/gallery/2010/Retro_Show/high_126.jpg
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info
From renovations.plus at hotmail.com Thu Jul 21 05:44:11 2011
From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com (Dennis .)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 07:44:11 -0300
Subject: [Rovernet ] Alternator woes
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References: <000601cc4768$3b8ba480$b2a2ed80$@net>
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Good morning Geoffry...
It's been a while since mine was done , but I recall a breaker or relay of some sort that releates to the altenator located in my P6B in the area of the passengers glove box ...some type of modification was needed to be done there to enable proper charging if memory serves me well..
Hope this helps
Regards
Dennis Brooks
> From: geffandjulie at comcast.net
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:37:07 -0700
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Alternator woes
>
>
> I have had the alternator re-built; it tests good. But, still no charging power. The ground is good, and battery voltage is 11.7 for the field. I even cleaned the fuse contacts, but am out if ideas. Help?
>
> PS: It is a GM-like marine alternator, but looks very similar to the shop manual photos.
>
> AvMedSafe
>
> Geoffrey W. McCarthy MD MBA DipAvMed
>
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From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Thu Jul 21 06:14:43 2011
From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:44:43 +0930
Subject: [Rovernet ] Alternator woes
In-Reply-To: <000601cc4768$3b8ba480$b2a2ed80$@net>
References: <000601cc4768$3b8ba480$b2a2ed80$@net>
Message-ID: <4E280A23.9040105@ozemail.com.au>
Hi Geof,
Are you able to measure the field current?
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
On 7/21/2011 3:07 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
>
> I have had the alternator re-built; it tests good. But, still no charging power. The ground is good, and battery voltage is 11.7 for the field. I even cleaned the fuse contacts, but am out if ideas. Help?
>
> PS: It is a GM-like marine alternator, but looks very similar to the shop manual photos.
>
> Geoffrey W. McCarthy
From eightoone at comcast.net Thu Jul 21 08:11:52 2011
From: eightoone at comcast.net (eightoone at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 13:11:52 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 with small wheels.....
In-Reply-To: <24FCC1EE8FE4465BAEDC15DD7796DC4E@rw>
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Rudiger, Very cool. Would you happen to know the type of wheels used?...regards, Ed K.
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From: RoverP6 at gmx.de
To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:34:48 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 with small wheels.....
http://www.modifiedcars.com/gallery/2010/Retro_Show/high_126.jpg
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From bsaunders at firstva.com Thu Jul 21 08:26:14 2011
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:26:14 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 with small wheels.....
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I like the fire extinguisher on the rear bumper to take care of the fender
when starts to burn from the rubbing of the tires. Hope there is one on the
other side. The head light on the inner left is unusual as well.
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of eightoone at comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:12 AM
To: Rovernet
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P6 with small wheels.....
Rudiger, Very cool. Would you happen to know the type of wheels
used?...regards, Ed K.
----- Original Message -----
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de
To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:34:48 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 with small wheels.....
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From geffandjulie at comcast.net Thu Jul 21 10:14:29 2011
From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 08:14:29 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Alternator woes
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I don't think so; I don't have a DC ammeter. There is voltage to the field, even with the ignition switch off. Thanks Dave.
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-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of David Read
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 4:15 AM
To: Rovernet
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Alternator woes
Hi Geof,
Are you able to measure the field current?
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
On 7/21/2011 3:07 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
>
> I have had the alternator re-built; it tests good. But, still no charging power. The ground is good, and battery voltage is 11.7 for the field. I even cleaned the fuse contacts, but am out if ideas. Help?
>
> PS: It is a GM-like marine alternator, but looks very similar to the shop manual photos.
>
> Geoffrey W. McCarthy
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From geffandjulie at comcast.net Thu Jul 21 10:15:44 2011
From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 08:15:44 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Alternator woes
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Thanks. As I understand, early models had an external voltage regulator, mounted in the glove box. Later alternators have internal voltage regulators. Hence, I have wires there, but no box. I do have the relay, off the car.
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From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Dennis .
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 3:44 AM
To: Rovernet
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Alternator woes
Good morning Geoffry...
It's been a while since mine was done , but I recall a breaker or relay of some sort that releates to the altenator located in my P6B in the area of the passengers glove box ...some type of modification was needed to be done there to enable proper charging if memory serves me well..
Hope this helps
Regards
Dennis Brooks
> From: geffandjulie at comcast.net
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:37:07 -0700
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Alternator woes
>
>
> I have had the alternator re-built; it tests good. But, still no charging power. The ground is good, and battery voltage is 11.7 for the field. I even cleaned the fuse contacts, but am out if ideas. Help?
>
> PS: It is a GM-like marine alternator, but looks very similar to the shop manual photos.
>
> AvMedSafe
>
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From cfreeberg at juno.com Thu Jul 21 11:18:53 2011
From: cfreeberg at juno.com (cfreeberg at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:18:53 GMT
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 Census 2012
Message-ID: <20110721.091853.21356.0@webmail19.vgs.untd.com>
2 here in Wash. statte (Bellgham): 1 restoration, 1 parts car (soon to be recycled).
---------- Original Message ----------
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To: "'Rovernet'" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Cc: editor at p6club.com
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P6 Census 2012
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:35:16 -0700
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From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Craig Christie
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:40 AM
To: 'Rovernet'
Cc: editor at p6club.com
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P6 Census 2012
I own a 1975 Rover 2200, in Toronto, Canada. The car was originally exported
to Italy, VIN #86800491E. It is in very good condition, is licensed and
driven daily during the summer months.
Craig Christie
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From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 4:54 AM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 Census 2012
Hi all
I know the following has been a subject of conversation before and I know
some of you already have databases but I am conducting a census of P6's to
establish just how many are surviving.
The census was originally going to be of UK cars but seeing as our database
is already more extensive than that, I now plan to make this a worldwide
census so that we can produce a relatively accurate count so can I please
ask that you visit the page on the Rover P6 Club website which is dedicated
to the P6 Census as there is a contact email address there for details to be
sent to.
www<dot>p6club<dot>com/node/335 (please replace <dot> with . thankyou)
This census has come into being after the DVLA published statistics about
cars in the UK that are 'Licensed' and on 'SORN'. For those of you who don't
know the UK system, 'licensed' means taxed for the road and 'SORN' means
Statory Off Road Notification, in other words cars that exist on the system
but aren't on the road, for what every reason, be it the winter months,
under going restoration or just parked up. However there is a larger groupl
on 'unlicensed' cars , these may have been scraped and not declared or they
may be parked up in a garage somewhere waiting to be discovered again,
either way these are the great unknowns.
So the plan is to get a closer count to what is really out there
Please help by send what ever details you know of what ever P6's that still
exist.
Speak Soon
Warmest regards
Mark
Mark Gray
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From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Thu Jul 21 17:05:29 2011
From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 07:35:29 +0930
Subject: [Rovernet ] Alternator woes
In-Reply-To: <004301cc47b8$e57de750$b079b5f0$@net>
References: <000601cc4768$3b8ba480$b2a2ed80$@net> <4E280A23.9040105@ozemail.com.au>
<004301cc47b8$e57de750$b079b5f0$@net>
Message-ID: <4E28A2A9.7030409@ozemail.com.au>
Sorry Geff
I forgot that ammeters are not all that common in multimeters these days.
I am trying to establish if the field circuit is ok.
Is it possible to measure it's resistance instead?
The two things required for generation are field flux and armature flux.
Flux is produced by current.
IMHO, if both armature and field show as circuits on an ohmmeter and
there is voltage across both then there must be current flowing in each
and generation must occur.
Armature resistance would be very low, and field resistance may be in
the order of tens to hundreds of ohms depending on design.
HTH
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
On 7/22/2011 12:44 AM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
>
> I don't think so; I don't have a DC ammeter. There is voltage to the field, even with the ignition switch off. Thanks Dave.
>
From trymes at rymes.net Thu Jul 21 17:25:08 2011
From: trymes at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 18:25:08 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Alternator woes
In-Reply-To: <4E28A2A9.7030409@ozemail.com.au>
References: <000601cc4768$3b8ba480$b2a2ed80$@net>
<4E280A23.9040105@ozemail.com.au>
<004301cc47b8$e57de750$b079b5f0$@net>
<4E28A2A9.7030409@ozemail.com.au>
Message-ID: <5C23E5F1-4301-4CB6-9670-25E6BFB7A104@rymes.net>
One thug to keep in mind is that the ignition light is normally an integral part of the charging circuit. No light, no charge.
Tom
On Jul 21, 2011, at 6:05 PM, David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> Sorry Geff
> I forgot that ammeters are not all that common in multimeters these days.
> I am trying to establish if the field circuit is ok.
> Is it possible to measure it's resistance instead?
>
> The two things required for generation are field flux and armature flux. Flux is produced by current.
> IMHO, if both armature and field show as circuits on an ohmmeter and there is voltage across both then there must be current flowing in each and generation must occur.
>
> Armature resistance would be very low, and field resistance may be in the order of tens to hundreds of ohms depending on design.
>
> HTH
>
> Cheers
> Dave
> South Oz
>
> On 7/22/2011 12:44 AM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
>>
>> I don't think so; I don't have a DC ammeter. There is voltage to the field, even with the ignition switch off. Thanks Dave.
>>
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From geffandjulie at comcast.net Thu Jul 21 21:12:26 2011
From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:12:26 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Alternator woes
In-Reply-To: <4E28A2A9.7030409@ozemail.com.au>
References: <000601cc4768$3b8ba480$b2a2ed80$@net> <4E280A23.9040105@ozemail.com.au> <004301cc47b8$e57de750$b079b5f0$@net>
<4E28A2A9.7030409@ozemail.com.au>
Message-ID: <000601cc4814$ce139f40$6a3addc0$@net>
Thanks again Dave. I just bought a DC ammeter for $20, new. Amazing. PS:
Last October Julie and I flew to Perth from SGP and trained to Adelaide,
flew to MLB and on home. Fantastic. Portland, where I live, is a larger
scale Perth, without the sun...! Cheers-
AvMedSafe
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677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR USA 97210
503-241-8468(h) 503-799-3809 (mobile)
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of David Read
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 3:05 PM
To: Rovernet
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Alternator woes
Sorry Geff
I forgot that ammeters are not all that common in multimeters these days.
I am trying to establish if the field circuit is ok.
Is it possible to measure it's resistance instead?
The two things required for generation are field flux and armature flux.
Flux is produced by current.
IMHO, if both armature and field show as circuits on an ohmmeter and
there is voltage across both then there must be current flowing in each
and generation must occur.
Armature resistance would be very low, and field resistance may be in
the order of tens to hundreds of ohms depending on design.
HTH
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
On 7/22/2011 12:44 AM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
>
> I don't think so; I don't have a DC ammeter. There is voltage to the
field, even with the ignition switch off. Thanks Dave.
>
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From geffandjulie at comcast.net Thu Jul 21 21:13:27 2011
From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:13:27 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Alternator woes
In-Reply-To: <5C23E5F1-4301-4CB6-9670-25E6BFB7A104@rymes.net>
References: <000601cc4768$3b8ba480$b2a2ed80$@net> <4E280A23.9040105@ozemail.com.au> <004301cc47b8$e57de750$b079b5f0$@net> <4E28A2A9.7030409@ozemail.com.au>
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Message-ID: <000701cc4814$f27f0c20$d77d2460$@net>
Thanks, both correspond: The I light stays on , the ammeter discharges,
esp. when large current demands, e.g., lights are made. I'll report the ohms
and current soon.
AvMedSafe
Geoffrey W. McCarthy MD MBA DipAvMed
677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR USA 97210
503-241-8468(h) 503-799-3809 (mobile)
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Tom Rymes
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 3:25 PM
To: Rovernet
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Alternator woes
One thug to keep in mind is that the ignition light is normally an integral
part of the charging circuit. No light, no charge.
Tom
On Jul 21, 2011, at 6:05 PM, David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> Sorry Geff
> I forgot that ammeters are not all that common in multimeters these days.
> I am trying to establish if the field circuit is ok.
> Is it possible to measure it's resistance instead?
>
> The two things required for generation are field flux and armature flux.
Flux is produced by current.
> IMHO, if both armature and field show as circuits on an ohmmeter and there
is voltage across both then there must be current flowing in each and
generation must occur.
>
> Armature resistance would be very low, and field resistance may be in the
order of tens to hundreds of ohms depending on design.
>
> HTH
>
> Cheers
> Dave
> South Oz
>
> On 7/22/2011 12:44 AM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
>>
>> I don't think so; I don't have a DC ammeter. There is voltage to the
field, even with the ignition switch off. Thanks Dave.
>>
>
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From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Fri Jul 22 01:53:32 2011
From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 16:23:32 +0930
Subject: [Rovernet ] Alternator woes
In-Reply-To: <000701cc4814$f27f0c20$d77d2460$@net>
References: <000601cc4768$3b8ba480$b2a2ed80$@net> <4E280A23.9040105@ozemail.com.au> <004301cc47b8$e57de750$b079b5f0$@net> <4E28A2A9.7030409@ozemail.com.au> <5C23E5F1-4301-4CB6-9670-25E6BFB7A104@rymes.net>
<000701cc4814$f27f0c20$d77d2460$@net>
Message-ID: <4E291E6C.6050200@ozemail.com.au>
Hi Geff,
Just having a senior moment here, my previous comments were related to
an older dc generator, not an alternator.
The ignition light in an alternator circuit indicates ON if the battery
voltage is higher than the generator voltage - no charge.
The voltage across the battery should be in the order of 13.8v to 14.3v
if it is charging.
Cheers
Dave
South oz
On 7/22/2011 11:43 AM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
>
> Thanks, both correspond: The I light stays on , the ammeter discharges,
> esp. when large current demands, e.g., lights are made. I'll report the ohms
> and current soon.
>
> AvMedSafe
> Geoffrey W. McCarthy MD MBA DipAvMed
<snip>
From trymes at rymes.net Sat Jul 23 13:03:38 2011
From: trymes at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 14:03:38 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] '67 P6 on Worcester, MA Craigslist
Message-ID: <6E9BC97B-F6C0-43B6-AEAC-559E74DB5B33@rymes.net>
Listed for parts. As always, "ran when parked".
http://worcester.craigslist.org/pts/2463427836.html
Tom
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From: trymes at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 14:04:08 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] '68 PC 2000tc on Spokane CL for parts
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From geffandjulie at comcast.net Sat Jul 23 13:34:16 2011
From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 11:34:16 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Alternator woes
In-Reply-To: <4E291E6C.6050200@ozemail.com.au>
References: <000601cc4768$3b8ba480$b2a2ed80$@net> <4E280A23.9040105@ozemail.com.au> <004301cc47b8$e57de750$b079b5f0$@net> <4E28A2A9.7030409@ozemail.com.au> <5C23E5F1-4301-4CB6-9670-25E6BFB7A104@rymes.net> <000701cc4814$f27f0c20$d77d2460$@net>
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More confusing readings: The alternator is generating 14.5+ volts as
measured from the alternator post to an engine ground. Yet none of those
volts are reaching the battery.
I measured the resistance of the alternator ground lead: 6 ohms. (other
wires are <.02ohm) I thought that might be the problem, so I by-passed that
ground. Result: no Ignition light but continued discharging. My car is a
NADA 3500S, suffix A, so I have always used the first wiring diagram that
refers to round speedo and A. But...I clearly do not have an external
voltage regulator, so maybe the original alternator was changed at some
time.
I'm out of ideas here....
AvMedSafe
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677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR USA 97210
503-241-8468(h) 503-799-3809 (mobile)
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of David Read
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:54 PM
To: Rovernet
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Alternator woes
Hi Geff,
Just having a senior moment here, my previous comments were related to
an older dc generator, not an alternator.
The ignition light in an alternator circuit indicates ON if the battery
voltage is higher than the generator voltage - no charge.
The voltage across the battery should be in the order of 13.8v to 14.3v
if it is charging.
Cheers
Dave
South oz
On 7/22/2011 11:43 AM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
>
> Thanks, both correspond: The I light stays on , the ammeter discharges,
> esp. when large current demands, e.g., lights are made. I'll report the
ohms
> and current soon.
>
> AvMedSafe
> Geoffrey W. McCarthy MD MBA DipAvMed
<snip>
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From Nash4447 at cs.com Sat Jul 23 13:58:38 2011
From: Nash4447 at cs.com (Nash4447 at cs.com)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 14:58:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Alternator woes
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It could be that the battery itself is no good, dead cell, etc
Glenn
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From slatskars at comcast.net Sun Jul 24 17:25:17 2011
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 22:25:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Alternator woes
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Test, I have been locked out by my silly ISP and HTML.
Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Read" <defender110 at ozemail.com.au>
To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:53:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Alternator woes
Hi Geff,
Just having a senior moment here, my previous comments were related to
an older dc generator, not an alternator.
The ignition light in an alternator circuit indicates ON if the battery
voltage is higher than the generator voltage - no charge.
The voltage across the battery should be in the order of 13.8v to 14.3v
if it is charging.
Cheers
Dave
South oz
On 7/22/2011 11:43 AM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
>
> Thanks, both correspond: The I light stays on , the ammeter discharges,
> esp. when large current demands, e.g., lights are made. I'll report the ohms
> and current soon.
>
> AvMedSafe
> Geoffrey W. McCarthy MD MBA DipAvMed
<snip>
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From kkinard at att.net Sun Jul 24 20:21:35 2011
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:21:35 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Alternator woes
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slatskars at comcast.net wrote:
> Test, I have been locked out by my silly ISP and HTML.
>
> Slats
>
Worse than being locked out of your car. :-(
Kent K.
From scottsoldautorubber at bigpond.com.au Sun Jul 24 23:22:14 2011
From: scottsoldautorubber at bigpond.com.au (Scott Richmond)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 14:22:14 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] For sale Rover 1969 P6 2000 SC.
Message-ID: <42A1DF1438D04EDEB32A6484E542FE1E@userpc>
A customer is selling his daughters rover 200, email him for pictures if you
need, jock64 at westnet.com.au <jock64 at westnet.com.au>
For sale Rover 1969 P6 2000 SC.
This is a very genuine car which my daughter loves but no longer needs.
Drives very nicely and is an attention getter.
So if your an enthusiast who is looking for an original old Rover,
this could be for you.
Work done over past 18 months on car is
.New battery
.New exhaust system
.4 new tyres
.Reco water pump
.Repaired starter motor
.Brakes fluid changed
.
Price is $3,500 AS IS.
Contact Jock
PH: 0418 525 220
Thankyou,
Scott.
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New email address: scott at scottsoldautorubber.com.au
New postal address: P.O. Box 105, Mount Waverley 3149
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Open 9 - 5.00 Monday to Friday.
Closed Saturday and Sunday.
Automotive Rubber and Seals for Many Makes and Models,
12 Haughton Road, Oakleigh, Melbourne 3166, Australia.
Phone and Fax: + 61- 3 - 9563 3023
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From dburrowes at vy-tek.com Mon Jul 25 05:06:11 2011
From: dburrowes at vy-tek.com (Dirk Burrowes)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 06:06:11 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Attn CA P4 owners
Message-ID: <20110725060611.21937@web001.nyc1.bluetie.com>
Hello All,
I recieved the following email from a friend down-under If your a P4 owner in the LA area please send Graeme an email.
Graeme Tutt, one of our Australian club members (RCCA) is presently on holiday in LA visiting friends. He's a P4 100 owner and was wondering if there are any P4 owners in California.
Do you know of any that wouldn't mind meeting up with him?
His e-mail address is graemetutt at yahoo.com.au
Dirk
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From p4roverman at yahoo.com Tue Jul 26 12:25:46 2011
From: p4roverman at yahoo.com (Rover Man)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 10:25:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover owners in Southern Califronia
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To Dirk Burrowes,
?Iam a Rover Owner in Soutrhern California, i just emailed your friend in
regards of him visiting here in California.
I havent got a response back yet.
When is he coming ?For how long of a trip?
>From Nelson O'Riley
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From p4roverman at yahoo.com Tue Jul 26 12:34:40 2011
From: p4roverman at yahoo.com (Rover Man)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 10:34:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4,P6 Rovers sale in Craigslist
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http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/cto/2510455810.html.??? P4 Rover 105 R
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/cto/2505179482.html.?? P6 Rover 3500s? 1970
sale-vqnqx-2508546982 at craigslist.org???? P4 Rover 1951? cyclops???? 75
these cars are for sale on craigslist in California in city of San Diego.
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From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Tue Jul 26 18:37:19 2011
From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 23:37:19 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC tappet shims
Message-ID: <BAY153-W60596E71E0FF7ECDB92DE7DE320@phx.gbl>
Does anyone know if there are any other cars tappet shims that are common size to the 2000TC or SC.........say the XKE or Volvo .....I need some of the lesser common sizes.......not .321 or .331 nor. 075 .078 ....maybe .068. .069 , 070 071 72 73 81 82 83 84 anything in the ..310 to 320 .323 up to .330
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From vern at inkspotco.com Tue Jul 26 19:00:44 2011
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 17:00:44 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC tappet shims
In-Reply-To: <BAY153-W60596E71E0FF7ECDB92DE7DE320@phx.gbl>
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As far as I know, nothing else matches.
It's a pain, but you can make thick ones thinner on a piece of glass and some wet & dry sandpaper.
Yours
Vern
On 2011-07-26, at 4:37 PM, Bill Robertson wrote:
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> Does anyone know if there are any other cars tappet shims that are common size to the 2000TC or SC.........say the XKE or Volvo .....I need some of the lesser common sizes.......not .321 or .331 nor. 075 .078 ....maybe .068. .069 , 070 071 72 73 81 82 83 84 anything in the ..310 to 320 .323 up to .330
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From sdibdin at gmail.com Tue Jul 26 19:03:12 2011
From: sdibdin at gmail.com (Steven Dibdin)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 20:03:12 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC tappet shims
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James found a motorbike set of shims that fitted. I think it was Suzuki? Can you recall?
Sent from my iPhone, please excuse any typing errors
On Jul 26, 2011, at 8:00 PM, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote:
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> As far as I know, nothing else matches.
>
> It's a pain, but you can make thick ones thinner on a piece of glass and some wet & dry sandpaper.
>
> Yours
> Vern
>
> On 2011-07-26, at 4:37 PM, Bill Robertson wrote:
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>> Does anyone know if there are any other cars tappet shims that are common size to the 2000TC or SC.........say the XKE or Volvo .....I need some of the lesser common sizes.......not .321 or .331 nor. 075 .078 ....maybe .068. .069 , 070 071 72 73 81 82 83 84 anything in the ..310 to 320 .323 up to .330
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>> Thanks
>> Bill Robertson
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From kkinard at att.net Tue Jul 26 21:35:28 2011
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 21:35:28 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC tappet shims
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References: <BAY153-W60596E71E0FF7ECDB92DE7DE320@phx.gbl>
<7C175470-D71B-4FBD-9573-5615FA488C80@inkspotco.com>
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Hi Bill,
I have a pretty good supply of shims but am a little confused by your
numbers. .330 is almost a third of an inch!
Kent K.
Vern Klukas wrote:
> As far as I know, nothing else matches.
>
> It's a pain, but you can make thick ones thinner on a piece of glass and some wet& dry sandpaper.
>
> Yours
> Vern
>
> On 2011-07-26, at 4:37 PM, Bill Robertson wrote:
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>
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>> Does anyone know if there are any other cars tappet shims that are common size to the 2000TC or SC.........say the XKE or Volvo .....I need some of the lesser common sizes.......not .321 or .331 nor. 075 .078 ....maybe .068. .069 , 070 071 72 73 81 82 83 84 anything in the ..310 to 320 .323 up to .330
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From vern at inkspotco.com Tue Jul 26 21:52:24 2011
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:52:24 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC tappet shims
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HI Kent
P6 use two shims, a thick one and a thin one. But they started out with a single shim, from .390" to .422" in .001 steps
The two shim affair used were .074" to .083' in .001, .092" to .142" in .010" steps, and .262" to .352" in .010" steps.
Yours
Vern
On 2011-07-26, at 7:35 PM, Kent Kinard wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
> I have a pretty good supply of shims but am a little confused by your numbers. .330 is almost a third of an inch!
> Kent K.
>
> Vern Klukas wrote:
>> As far as I know, nothing else matches.
>>
>> It's a pain, but you can make thick ones thinner on a piece of glass and some wet& dry sandpaper.
>>
>> Yours
>> Vern
>>
>> On 2011-07-26, at 4:37 PM, Bill Robertson wrote:
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>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if there are any other cars tappet shims that are common size to the 2000TC or SC.........say the XKE or Volvo .....I need some of the lesser common sizes.......not .321 or .331 nor. 075 .078 ....maybe .068. .069 , 070 071 72 73 81 82 83 84 anything in the ..310 to 320 .323 up to .330
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From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com Wed Jul 27 04:09:20 2011
From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:09:20 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC tappet shims
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Ask around in the motorbike field. Valve shims are relatively common in there. From memory Ducati [for example] use them. With the right thickness, it may be a case of having to grind down the diameters. Ebay type auctions are another avenue for the genuine items - but it's catch as catch can.
Note that used P6 shims can differ from their nomnal sizes due to wear. Electronic vernier calipers or a good micrometer are essential to sort them out and read their actual sizes.
If the task is to set up valve gaps from scratch on a totally rebuilt cy/head with a grab bag of odd shims be prepared to polish down a couple to get the clearances needed and even then be willing to open the gaps out a bit - they are incredibly small and thus difficult to strike perfectly.
> From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 23:37:19 +0000
> Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC tappet shims
>
>
>
> Does anyone know if there are any other cars tappet shims that are common size to the 2000TC or SC.........say the XKE or Volvo .....I need some of the lesser common sizes.......not .321 or .331 nor. 075 .078 ....maybe .068. .069 , 070 071 72 73 81 82 83 84 anything in the ..310 to 320 .323 up to .330
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> Thanks
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From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Wed Jul 27 12:09:58 2011
From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:09:58 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC tappet shims
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> To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
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> Does anyone know if there are any other cars tappet shims that are common size to the 2000TC or SC.........say the XKE or Volvo .....I need some of the lesser common sizes.......not .321 or .331 nor. 075 .078 ....maybe .068. .069 , 070 071 72 73 81 82 83 84 anything in the ..310 to 320 .323 up to .330
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> From: Steven Dibdin <sdibdin at gmail.com>
> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC tappet shims
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> James found a motorbike set of shims that fitted. I think it was Suzuki? Can you recall?
>
> Sent from my iPhone, please excuse any typing errors
>
> On Jul 26, 2011, at 8:00 PM, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote:
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> >
> > As far as I know, nothing else matches.
> >
> > It's a pain, but you can make thick ones thinner on a piece of glass and some wet & dry sandpaper.
> >
> > Yours
> > Vern
> >
> > On 2011-07-26, at 4:37 PM, Bill Robertson wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Does anyone know if there are any other cars tappet shims that are common size to the 2000TC or SC.........say the XKE or Volvo .....I need some of the lesser common sizes.......not .321 or .331 nor. 075 .078 ....maybe .068. .069 , 070 071 72 73 81 82 83 84 anything in the ..310 to 320 .323 up to .330
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Bill Robertson
Kawasaki 650 motorcycle from the early 80's are 13mm as well as Mercedes benz 190 from the late 80's I believe.
Just sent you an email Bill. I have shims.
James.
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From dirk at vy-tek.com Wed Jul 27 13:23:39 2011
From: dirk at vy-tek.com (Dirk Burrowes)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:23:39 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Digest, Vol 135, Issue 24
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Hello Nelson,
Unfortunately I don't know much more then you do. I received an email from a
friend who is a friend of the gentlemen that is coming over to California
for a visit. I hope he will reply to you.
Thanks for the efforts
Dirk
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2. P4,P6 Rovers sale in Craigslist (Rover Man)
3. 2000 TC tappet shims (Bill Robertson)
4. Re: 2000 TC tappet shims (Vern Klukas)
5. Re: 2000 TC tappet shims (Steven Dibdin)
6. Re: 2000 TC tappet shims (Kent Kinard)
7. Re: 2000 TC tappet shims (Vern Klukas)
8. Re: 2000 TC tappet shims (Richard Sharpe)
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Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 10:25:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rover Man <p4roverman at yahoo.com>
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover owners in Southern Califronia
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To Dirk Burrowes,
?Iam a Rover Owner in Soutrhern California, i just emailed your friend in
regards of him visiting here in California.
I havent got a response back yet.
When is he coming ?For how long of a trip?
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From: Rover Man <p4roverman at yahoo.com>
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4,P6 Rovers sale in Craigslist
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http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/cto/2510455810.html.??? P4 Rover 105 R
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/cto/2505179482.html.?? P6 Rover 3500s?
1970
sale-vqnqx-2508546982 at craigslist.org???? P4 Rover 1951? cyclops???? 75
these cars are for sale on craigslist in California in city of San Diego.
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From: Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com>
To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC tappet shims
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Does anyone know if there are any other cars tappet shims that are common
size to the 2000TC or SC.........say the XKE or Volvo .....I need some of
the lesser common sizes.......not .321 or .331 nor. 075 .078 ....maybe
.068. .069 , 070 071 72 73 81 82 83 84 anything in the ..310 to 320 .323
up to .330
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Bill Robertson
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From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com>
To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC tappet shims
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As far as I know, nothing else matches.
It's a pain, but you can make thick ones thinner on a piece of glass and
some wet & dry sandpaper.
Yours
Vern
On 2011-07-26, at 4:37 PM, Bill Robertson wrote:
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>
> Does anyone know if there are any other cars tappet shims that are
> common size to the 2000TC or SC.........say the XKE or Volvo .....I
> need some of the lesser common sizes.......not .321 or .331 nor. 075
> .078 ....maybe .068. .069 , 070 071 72 73 81 82 83 84 anything in
> the ..310 to 320 .323 up to .330
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> Thanks
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From: Steven Dibdin <sdibdin at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC tappet shims
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James found a motorbike set of shims that fitted. I think it was Suzuki? Can
you recall?
Sent from my iPhone, please excuse any typing errors
On Jul 26, 2011, at 8:00 PM, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote:
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> As far as I know, nothing else matches.
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> It's a pain, but you can make thick ones thinner on a piece of glass and
some wet & dry sandpaper.
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> Yours
> Vern
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> On 2011-07-26, at 4:37 PM, Bill Robertson wrote:
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>> Does anyone know if there are any other cars tappet shims that are
>> common size to the 2000TC or SC.........say the XKE or Volvo .....I
>> need some of the lesser common sizes.......not .321 or .331 nor. 075
>> .078 ....maybe .068. .069 , 070 071 72 73 81 82 83 84 anything in
>> the ..310 to 320 .323 up to .330
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>> Thanks
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Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 21:35:28 -0500
From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net>
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Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC tappet shims
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Hi Bill,
I have a pretty good supply of shims but am a little confused by your
numbers. .330 is almost a third of an inch!
Kent K.
Vern Klukas wrote:
> As far as I know, nothing else matches.
>
> It's a pain, but you can make thick ones thinner on a piece of glass and
some wet& dry sandpaper.
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> Yours
> Vern
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> On 2011-07-26, at 4:37 PM, Bill Robertson wrote:
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>> Does anyone know if there are any other cars tappet shims that are
>> common size to the 2000TC or SC.........say the XKE or Volvo .....I
>> need some of the lesser common sizes.......not .321 or .331 nor. 075
>> .078 ....maybe .068. .069 , 070 071 72 73 81 82 83 84 anything in
>> the ..310 to 320 .323 up to .330
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>> Thanks
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Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:52:24 -0700
From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com>
To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC tappet shims
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HI Kent
P6 use two shims, a thick one and a thin one. But they started out with a
single shim, from .390" to .422" in .001 steps
The two shim affair used were .074" to .083' in .001, .092" to .142" in
.010" steps, and .262" to .352" in .010" steps.
Yours
Vern
On 2011-07-26, at 7:35 PM, Kent Kinard wrote:
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> Hi Bill,
> I have a pretty good supply of shims but am a little confused by your
numbers. .330 is almost a third of an inch!
> Kent K.
>
> Vern Klukas wrote:
>> As far as I know, nothing else matches.
>>
>> It's a pain, but you can make thick ones thinner on a piece of glass and
some wet& dry sandpaper.
>>
>> Yours
>> Vern
>>
>> On 2011-07-26, at 4:37 PM, Bill Robertson wrote:
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>>> Does anyone know if there are any other cars tappet shims that are
>>> common size to the 2000TC or SC.........say the XKE or Volvo .....I
>>> need some of the lesser common sizes.......not .321 or .331 nor.
>>> 075 .078 ....maybe .068. .069 , 070 071 72 73 81 82 83 84 anything
>>> in the ..310 to 320 .323 up to .330
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>>> Thanks
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Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:09:20 +0000
From: Richard Sharpe <trowzerkoff at hotmail.com>
To: rover net <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC tappet shims
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Ask around in the motorbike field. Valve shims are relatively common in
there. From memory Ducati [for example] use them. With the right
thickness, it may be a case of having to grind down the diameters. Ebay
type auctions are another avenue for the genuine items - but it's catch as
catch can.
Note that used P6 shims can differ from their nomnal sizes due to wear.
Electronic vernier calipers or a good micrometer are essential to sort them
out and read their actual sizes.
If the task is to set up valve gaps from scratch on a totally rebuilt
cy/head with a grab bag of odd shims be prepared to polish down a couple to
get the clearances needed and even then be willing to open the gaps out a
bit - they are incredibly small and thus difficult to strike perfectly.
> From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 23:37:19 +0000
> Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC tappet shims
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> Does anyone know if there are any other cars tappet shims that are
> common size to the 2000TC or SC.........say the XKE or Volvo .....I
> need some of the lesser common sizes.......not .321 or .331 nor. 075
> .078 ....maybe .068. .069 , 070 071 72 73 81 82 83 84 anything in the
> ..310 to 320 .323 up to .330
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> Thanks
> Bill Robertson
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Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 21:23:52 -0700 (PDT)
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From carstuff3 at gmail.com Thu Jul 28 20:16:06 2011
From: carstuff3 at gmail.com (Gordon Harrower)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 21:16:06 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 Wiring Problem
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Hello,
Today I set about what I thought would be a straightforward job in getting
the headlights and sidelights working on my P5 (1963 Mk IIa 3-Litre Saloon,
LHD, positive ground). Unfortunately, it appears that someone at some time
rewired the lighting circuit, at least behind the dash binnacle, and with
non-standard wire colors. I'm trying to make sense of the wiring diagram to
see how things should be, but between the unorthodox changes and the nest of
wires back there, I'm having a hard time. There don't seem to be enough
wires connected to the main headlight switch, either.
Would someone be willing to take and send pictures of the headlight switch
(top right) and dimmer switch (top left) wiring? I'm going to put
something on the P5 board, but I know the British models are wired slightly
differently.
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Gordon.
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From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Thu Jul 28 22:30:36 2011
From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 03:30:36 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Valve shims
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Hi all........
Have done this too many times to count......i lost ( ie: read she threw out the little round things that were in the dirty tin ) ...i have enough to get this engine back together.......but i'm using all my weird sizes to achieve it..........I ruined the cam and 3 tappets....the cam housing.....so its from my stash of goodies downstairs........put it all together for the pre test and with no starting point i got one out of 8 perfect.......i went with the .004 difference inlet to exhaust and set all inlet the same and all exhaust the same to try.........one out of eight....lol at least three were almost .012 out.................Yes Kent almost 1/3 of an inch....Thanks to all .......James has emailed ....its an older Kawasaki......and he has a few of the different size ones i could use for my other engine........ I'll have it back up running Saturday for the show next weekend.....When you are the only Rover in the club or at the show....you have a duty to show up and represent the marque......LOL at least thats what i tell the wife all the time
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From lacpsyd6 at msn.com Sun Jul 31 12:53:49 2011
From: lacpsyd6 at msn.com (LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 11:53:49 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] Seat belt installation help
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I've just installed the rear seat belts for the rear passengers in my 1970 P6B 3500S. Unfortunately the old belts were in storage for 15 years and after completing the installation of new belts with original hardware I'm left with two 3/4" tall X 3/4" diameter aluminium spacers/bushings. I can't remember where they go and I can't get the long chrome bolts in either corner of the back window panel (behind each seat) to thread into their respective holes when I add the the spaces. Neither of the two other mounting points for the belts seem to accommodate these spacers.
Any help (and or photos) would be much appreciated.
Lance La Certe, Psy.D.,
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From vern at inkspotco.com Sun Jul 31 13:25:30 2011
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 11:25:30 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Seat belt installation help
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Your memory is correct, they are for the upper mounts on the parcel shelf. Without then, the seatbelts are not safe because you cannot tighten the bolts enough. The fitting problem is you probably need to shift the parcel shelf a bit to line things up.
Yours
Vern
On 2011-07-31, at 10:53 AM, LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE wrote:
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> I've just installed the rear seat belts for the rear passengers in my 1970 P6B 3500S. Unfortunately the old belts were in storage for 15 years and after completing the installation of new belts with original hardware I'm left with two 3/4" tall X 3/4" diameter aluminium spacers/bushings. I can't remember where they go and I can't get the long chrome bolts in either corner of the back window panel (behind each seat) to thread into their respective holes when I add the the spaces. Neither of the two other mounting points for the belts seem to accommodate these spacers.
> Any help (and or photos) would be much appreciated.
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