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From vmitps at netspace.net.au Sat Jan 1 00:31:19 2011
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 17:31:19 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet ] Trans seal cost
In-Reply-To: <040DF23C-8983-4FA3-A0E9-E8AB4FEE934F@telusplanet.net>
References: <040DF23C-8983-4FA3-A0E9-E8AB4FEE934F@telusplanet.net>
Message-ID: <AE9E7B1C3BF645A986EA448C3016C96E@Vista>
I'd like to know what the symptoms are, because an oil leak from the back of
the head can be the same.
PVS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roy Babiuk" <rababiuk at telusplanet.net>
To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 10:01 AM
Subject: [Rovernet ] Trans seal cost
> After replacing the output shaft seal on my 70 TC's 4 speed transmission
> last summer, I unfortunately still have
> leaking from the top of the gearbox. Looks like I will have to have the
> box dropped and the selector shaft seals looked at.
> For budgeting purposes, does anyone have an educated guess at the cost of
> having this job done might be?
> Thanks;
> Roy.
>
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From rababiuk at telusplanet.net Sat Jan 1 11:32:20 2011
From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net (Roy Babiuk)
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 10:32:20 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Trans seal cost
Message-ID: <C7F21AEB-1F31-4061-827C-093BE75C4FFA@telusplanet.net>
The oil appears to be coming from the top of the gear box and drips
down the side of the case at the speedo gear housing.
The case is dry near the bell housing.
I can email you a few pics if that helps.
Roy
From vmitps at netspace.net.au Sat Jan 1 15:04:11 2011
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 08:04:11 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet ] Trans seal cost
In-Reply-To: <C7F21AEB-1F31-4061-827C-093BE75C4FFA@telusplanet.net>
References: <C7F21AEB-1F31-4061-827C-093BE75C4FFA@telusplanet.net>
Message-ID: <10E845692FC44E7AB84A3EC127C633E2@Vista>
No need to, you are on the right track.
PVS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roy Babiuk" <rababiuk at telusplanet.net>
To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 4:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Trans seal cost
> The oil appears to be coming from the top of the gear box and drips down
> the side of the case at the speedo gear housing.
> The case is dry near the bell housing.
> I can email you a few pics if that helps.
> Roy
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From rababiuk at telusplanet.net Mon Jan 3 10:41:37 2011
From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net (Roy Babiuk)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 09:41:37 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Trans seal cost
Message-ID: <42EC4435-C071-4239-A0A4-A5C6D11CAC4C@telusplanet.net>
Does anyone have any step by step instructions for removing a manual
gearbox without removing the engine?
Thanks.
From vern at inkspotco.com Mon Jan 3 10:45:31 2011
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 08:45:31 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] Trans seal cost
In-Reply-To: <42EC4435-C071-4239-A0A4-A5C6D11CAC4C@telusplanet.net>
References: <42EC4435-C071-4239-A0A4-A5C6D11CAC4C@telusplanet.net>
Message-ID: <92B94569-1151-4E15-AD3E-A37AA2BA1BDC@inkspotco.com>
I posted a step by step some time ago on rovernet, try searching for my name.
I'll look as well.
Yours
Vern
On 2011-01-03, at 8:41 AM, Roy Babiuk wrote:
> Does anyone have any step by step instructions for removing a manual gearbox without removing the engine?
> Thanks.
>
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From vern at inkspotco.com Mon Jan 3 10:53:10 2011
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 08:53:10 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] Trans seal cost
In-Reply-To: <92B94569-1151-4E15-AD3E-A37AA2BA1BDC@inkspotco.com>
References: <42EC4435-C071-4239-A0A4-A5C6D11CAC4C@telusplanet.net>
<92B94569-1151-4E15-AD3E-A37AA2BA1BDC@inkspotco.com>
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Maybe I'm wrong, it might of been a Roverview article instead.
I'll keep looking.
Yours
Vern
On 2011-01-03, at 8:45 AM, Vern Klukas wrote:
> I posted a step by step some time ago on rovernet, try searching for my name.
>
> I'll look as well.
>
> Yours
> Vern
>
> On 2011-01-03, at 8:41 AM, Roy Babiuk wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have any step by step instructions for removing a manual gearbox without removing the engine?
>> Thanks.
>>
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From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com Mon Jan 3 12:28:58 2011
From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 18:28:58 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Trans seal cost
In-Reply-To: <42EC4435-C071-4239-A0A4-A5C6D11CAC4C@telusplanet.net>
References: <42EC4435-C071-4239-A0A4-A5C6D11CAC4C@telusplanet.net>
Message-ID: <BLU157-w15BB46D8D4E570D3167484B8070@phx.gbl>
In practical terms it's far easier to pull the engine and gearbox out of a P6 2000 as one unit. Safer too - no frigging about underneath a raised car wrestling with a gearbox. Pulling the engine also lets you have a crack at checking and refurbing the sideplates - for ye compleate peace of mind.
> From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 09:41:37 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Trans seal cost
>
> Does anyone have any step by step instructions for removing a manual
> gearbox without removing the engine?
> Thanks.
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From vern at inkspotco.com Mon Jan 3 12:38:58 2011
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 10:38:58 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] Trans seal cost
In-Reply-To: <BLU157-w15BB46D8D4E570D3167484B8070@phx.gbl>
References: <42EC4435-C071-4239-A0A4-A5C6D11CAC4C@telusplanet.net>
<BLU157-w15BB46D8D4E570D3167484B8070@phx.gbl>
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In practical terms I'd have to disagree with you, Robert. You're under the car anyway. Just pulling the gearbox takes less than half the time pulling the engine does.
Yours
Vern
On 2011-01-03, at 10:28 AM, Richard Sharpe wrote:
>
> In practical terms it's far easier to pull the engine and gearbox out of a P6 2000 as one unit. Safer too - no frigging about underneath a raised car wrestling with a gearbox. Pulling the engine also lets you have a crack at checking and refurbing the sideplates - for ye compleate peace of mind.
>
>> From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 09:41:37 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Trans seal cost
>>
>> Does anyone have any step by step instructions for removing a manual
>> gearbox without removing the engine?
>> Thanks.
>>
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From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com Mon Jan 3 15:47:06 2011
From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 21:47:06 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Trans seal cost
In-Reply-To: <C6A08956-C9E8-439C-8EC7-2A17594D3EC7@inkspotco.com>
References: <42EC4435-C071-4239-A0A4-A5C6D11CAC4C@telusplanet.net>,
<BLU157-w15BB46D8D4E570D3167484B8070@phx.gbl>,
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The engine and gearbox unit can come out in about 2 hours and go back in about one, easy-peasy. I assume you've got a vehicle hoist and gearbox lift? - otherwise good luck with that.
> From: vern at inkspotco.com
> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 10:38:58 -0800
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Trans seal cost
>
> In practical terms I'd have to disagree with you, Robert. You're under the car anyway. Just pulling the gearbox takes less than half the time pulling the engine does.
>
> Yours
> Vern
>
>
> On 2011-01-03, at 10:28 AM, Richard Sharpe wrote:
>
> >
> > In practical terms it's far easier to pull the engine and gearbox out of a P6 2000 as one unit. Safer too - no frigging about underneath a raised car wrestling with a gearbox. Pulling the engine also lets you have a crack at checking and refurbing the sideplates - for ye compleate peace of mind.
> >
> >> From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net
> >> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> >> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 09:41:37 -0700
> >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Trans seal cost
> >>
> >> Does anyone have any step by step instructions for removing a manual
> >> gearbox without removing the engine?
> >> Thanks.
> >>
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From vern at inkspotco.com Mon Jan 3 16:04:32 2011
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 14:04:32 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] Trans seal cost
In-Reply-To: <BLU157-w10879E7F934336416366E1B8070@phx.gbl>
References: <42EC4435-C071-4239-A0A4-A5C6D11CAC4C@telusplanet.net>,
<BLU157-w15BB46D8D4E570D3167484B8070@phx.gbl>,
<C6A08956-C9E8-439C-8EC7-2A17594D3EC7@inkspotco.com>
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But in two hours I can pull the gearbox, replace the clutch and have things all buttoned up again. With two people on the job, we could come close to getting it done in an hour. We never pulled a motor just for gearbox work.
But let's not get into a pissing match about it, and just leave it at "alternatives exist".
Yours
Vern
On 2011-01-03, at 1:47 PM, Richard Sharpe wrote:
>
> The engine and gearbox unit can come out in about 2 hours and go back in about one, easy-peasy. I assume you've got a vehicle hoist and gearbox lift? - otherwise good luck with that.
>
>> From: vern at inkspotco.com
>> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 10:38:58 -0800
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Trans seal cost
>>
>> In practical terms I'd have to disagree with you, Robert. You're under the car anyway. Just pulling the gearbox takes less than half the time pulling the engine does.
>>
>> Yours
>> Vern
>>
>>
>> On 2011-01-03, at 10:28 AM, Richard Sharpe wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> In practical terms it's far easier to pull the engine and gearbox out of a P6 2000 as one unit. Safer too - no frigging about underneath a raised car wrestling with a gearbox. Pulling the engine also lets you have a crack at checking and refurbing the sideplates - for ye compleate peace of mind.
>>>
>>>> From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net
>>>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 09:41:37 -0700
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Trans seal cost
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have any step by step instructions for removing a manual
>>>> gearbox without removing the engine?
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
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From veetwinrider at yahoo.com Mon Jan 3 21:38:21 2011
From: veetwinrider at yahoo.com (roland)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:38:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Look At Life In London
Message-ID: <230367.17797.qm@web180504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Cool little view of the past.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKps5ORD228
Enjoy!
roland
From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com Tue Jan 4 01:06:40 2011
From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 07:06:40 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Trans seal cost
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References: <42EC4435-C071-4239-A0A4-A5C6D11CAC4C@telusplanet.net>, ,
<BLU157-w15BB46D8D4E570D3167484B8070@phx.gbl>, ,
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All Sir Garnet.
> From: vern at inkspotco.com
> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 14:04:32 -0800
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Trans seal cost
>
> But in two hours I can pull the gearbox, replace the clutch and have things all buttoned up again. With two people on the job, we could come close to getting it done in an hour. We never pulled a motor just for gearbox work.
>
> But let's not get into a pissing match about it, and just leave it at "alternatives exist".
>
> Yours
> Vern
>
> On 2011-01-03, at 1:47 PM, Richard Sharpe wrote:
>
> >
> > The engine and gearbox unit can come out in about 2 hours and go back in about one, easy-peasy. I assume you've got a vehicle hoist and gearbox lift? - otherwise good luck with that.
> >
> >> From: vern at inkspotco.com
> >> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 10:38:58 -0800
> >> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Trans seal cost
> >>
> >> In practical terms I'd have to disagree with you, Robert. You're under the car anyway. Just pulling the gearbox takes less than half the time pulling the engine does.
> >>
> >> Yours
> >> Vern
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2011-01-03, at 10:28 AM, Richard Sharpe wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> In practical terms it's far easier to pull the engine and gearbox out of a P6 2000 as one unit. Safer too - no frigging about underneath a raised car wrestling with a gearbox. Pulling the engine also lets you have a crack at checking and refurbing the sideplates - for ye compleate peace of mind.
> >>>
> >>>> From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net
> >>>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> >>>> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 09:41:37 -0700
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Trans seal cost
> >>>>
> >>>> Does anyone have any step by step instructions for removing a manual
> >>>> gearbox without removing the engine?
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>>>
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From lingfield51 at btopenworld.com Tue Jan 4 03:24:17 2011
From: lingfield51 at btopenworld.com (Partviking)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 09:24:17 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Trans seal cost
In-Reply-To: <42EC4435-C071-4239-A0A4-A5C6D11CAC4C@telusplanet.net>
References: <42EC4435-C071-4239-A0A4-A5C6D11CAC4C@telusplanet.net>
Message-ID: <918341.67585.qm@web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Leaving aside the rights or wrongs of removing the gearbox separately from the
engine then the procedure is as follows,
In the engine bay disconnect the throttle linkage bar (carb to bulkhead) and
remove, then disconnect the choke cable.
Drain some or all of the water and disconnect the top rad hose. Remove the
rocker cover.
If a TC with oil cooler remove the two pipes to rad.
Slacken both engine mounting bolts but leave the nuts on a few turns
Underneath the car disconnect and remove the starter motor, bellhousing closing
plate,reverse light wires, speedo cable, propshaft and gearbox support mounts.
The whole unit can then be tilted backwards to the point where the sump can be
lifted onto the front cross member. Once this is done you disconnect the
bellhousing bolts and can then 'spin' the gearbox in situ on the input shaft
until the starter motor housing is at the top (ie in the gearbox tunnel)
whereupon you will find there is enough room for it to slide backwards off the
input shaft.
The usual caveats re Health & Safety apply but I've done it several times and
never had a problem. I suppose a lot depends on if you have lifting equipment
and/or a pit to work in.
Regards
Alan Francis (partviking)
________________________________
From: Roy Babiuk <rababiuk at telusplanet.net>
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Sent: Monday, 3 January, 2011 16:41:37
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Trans seal cost
Does anyone have any step by step instructions for removing a manual gearbox
without removing the engine?
Thanks.
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From irishrover1 at live.com Tue Jan 4 07:04:48 2011
From: irishrover1 at live.com (Frederick Ben Rodgers)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 10:04:48 -0300
Subject: [Rovernet ] Look At Life In London
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Hi Roland
A great video and it brought back memories of my own two-three wheel days. In 1958 I bought a 1952 BSA 650 twin Golden Flash with a sidecar!! First bike I ever rode (19 years old) and I had several near misses learning to ride with a chair alongside, very tricky taking left hand turns etc!!!. If you still have the P4 oil filters perhaps you could contact me off the net. Happy New Year
Ben
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> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:38:21 -0800
> From: veetwinrider at yahoo.com
> To: Rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Look At Life In London
>
> Cool little view of the past.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKps5ORD228
>
> Enjoy!
>
> roland
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From rababiuk at telusplanet.net Tue Jan 4 11:17:12 2011
From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net (Roy Babiuk)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 10:17:12 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Trans seal cost
Message-ID: <AF6F3026-1381-4D83-8066-746081CD0656@telusplanet.net>
Thanks Alan!
That's what I was looking for!
Roy
From aboasberg at webtv.net Wed Jan 5 07:45:35 2011
From: aboasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg)
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 13:45:35 GMT
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover 3500S Right Front Door
Message-ID: <BLU156-ds1DBD90DB27C264D8EDF0FB5090@phx.gbl>
Thanks to all who offered to assist me in replacing my right front door after an accident in which some jerk backed out of a driveway without looking and struck my car.
His insurance company has agreed to pay the $4,500 bill it will cost to repair the damaged door, so I won't need to replace it.
Best wishes to all for a Happy New Year.
Albert
From peter_m at amnet.net.au Thu Jan 6 06:28:51 2011
From: peter_m at amnet.net.au (Peter Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 20:28:51 +0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6B Front Brake Caliper rebuild
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References: <BLU156-ds1DBD90DB27C264D8EDF0FB5090@phx.gbl>
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Hello Netters,
The mechanic who services my P6B has pointed out the additional amount of
dampish brake pad dust on a front caliper- more so than on the other side,
and he advises that this appears to be due to a weeping seal.
So, it seems to be time for a caliper rebuild. I have a spare set of used
calipers from my spares car, as well as the caliper kits, thanks to Scott
Richmond of Scott's Old Auto Rubber. New rotors will be also required and as
they are unavailable in Australia, at least at a reasonable price, will be
coming from the UK.
With the $Aust around parity with $US I thought it might be a good time to
ask around as to whether others have had this job done recently, or obtained
quotations.
It would be the first time I would have done a caliper overhaul so my
feeling is that the job should be done by professionals.
Your advice/feedback would be most welcome.
Kind regards
Peter Mitchell
Western Australia
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From p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Jan 6 08:52:42 2011
From: p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk (p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:52:42 -0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6B Front Brake Caliper rebuild
References: <BLU156-ds1DBD90DB27C264D8EDF0FB5090@phx.gbl>
<001701cbad9d$46f03850$d4d0a8f0$@net.au>
Message-ID: <2C2361039CA94693B89EC5C6A24AC181@SN037535920331>
Hi Peter
I have done the job three times in as many months with seal kits from Rover
Classics, Doncatser, UK and pistons from David Manners (Jaguar), Oldbury, UK
I photographed the one caliper I did and will send you the pictures if you
contact me directly.
The job is not difficult.
Speak Soon
Warmest regards
Mark
Mark Gray
Editor, Driving Force
The Rover P6 Club
editor'at'p6club.com (replace 'at' with @)
> Hello Netters,
>
> The mechanic who services my P6B has pointed out the additional amount of
> dampish brake pad dust on a front caliper- more so than on the other side,
> and he advises that this appears to be due to a weeping seal.
>
> So, it seems to be time for a caliper rebuild. I have a spare set of used
> calipers from my spares car, as well as the caliper kits, thanks to Scott
> Richmond of Scott's Old Auto Rubber. New rotors will be also required and
> as
> they are unavailable in Australia, at least at a reasonable price, will be
> coming from the UK.
>
> With the $Aust around parity with $US I thought it might be a good time to
> ask around as to whether others have had this job done recently, or
> obtained
> quotations.
>
> It would be the first time I would have done a caliper overhaul so my
> feeling is that the job should be done by professionals.
>
> Your advice/feedback would be most welcome.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Peter Mitchell
> Western Australia
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Thu Jan 6 12:21:46 2011
From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:21:46 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6B Front Brake Caliper rebuild
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1294336806.3864.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
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Message-ID: <SNT105-W43430D0163F7A6723837B8E0A0@phx.gbl>
I would give Power Brake Service in Adelaide a call. I am sure they could help. The overhauled the booster on my Rover 2000 back in 1994, and it has worked fine ever since. I went to get a bit of tubing that goes between the plastic brake fluid reservoir and the brake pipe, and the just gave me a piece. While I was there I asked if they could put new seals in my calipers, if I ever need to, and they quoted me 80 dollars if the piston was still good, and 130 dollars if it needed a new piston. They also do stainless steel sleeving.
http://www.powerbrakes.com.au/
James.
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> From: "Peter Mitchell" <peter_m at amnet.net.au>
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> Subject: [Rovernet ] P6B Front Brake Caliper rebuild
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> Hello Netters,
>
> The mechanic who services my P6B has pointed out the additional amount of
> dampish brake pad dust on a front caliper- more so than on the other side,
> and he advises that this appears to be due to a weeping seal.
>
> So, it seems to be time for a caliper rebuild. I have a spare set of used
> calipers from my spares car, as well as the caliper kits, thanks to Scott
> Richmond of Scott's Old Auto Rubber. New rotors will be also required and as
> they are unavailable in Australia, at least at a reasonable price, will be
> coming from the UK.
>
> With the $Aust around parity with $US I thought it might be a good time to
> ask around as to whether others have had this job done recently, or obtained
> quotations.
>
> It would be the first time I would have done a caliper overhaul so my
> feeling is that the job should be done by professionals.
>
> Your advice/feedback would be most welcome.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Peter Mitchell
> Western Australia
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:52:42 -0000
> From: <p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk>
> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P6B Front Brake Caliper rebuild
> Message-ID: <2C2361039CA94693B89EC5C6A24AC181 at SN037535920331>
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>
> Hi Peter
> I have done the job three times in as many months with seal kits from Rover
> Classics, Doncatser, UK and pistons from David Manners (Jaguar), Oldbury, UK
>
> I photographed the one caliper I did and will send you the pictures if you
> contact me directly.
> The job is not difficult.
>
> Speak Soon
> Warmest regards
> Mark
>
> Mark Gray
> Editor, Driving Force
> The Rover P6 Club
> editor'at'p6club.com (replace 'at' with @)
>
>
>
>
> > Hello Netters,
> >
> > The mechanic who services my P6B has pointed out the additional amount of
> > dampish brake pad dust on a front caliper- more so than on the other side,
> > and he advises that this appears to be due to a weeping seal.
> >
> > So, it seems to be time for a caliper rebuild. I have a spare set of used
> > calipers from my spares car, as well as the caliper kits, thanks to Scott
> > Richmond of Scott's Old Auto Rubber. New rotors will be also required and
> > as
> > they are unavailable in Australia, at least at a reasonable price, will be
> > coming from the UK.
> >
> > With the $Aust around parity with $US I thought it might be a good time to
> > ask around as to whether others have had this job done recently, or
> > obtained
> > quotations.
> >
> > It would be the first time I would have done a caliper overhaul so my
> > feeling is that the job should be done by professionals.
> >
> > Your advice/feedback would be most welcome.
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Peter Mitchell
> > Western Australia
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From vmitps at netspace.net.au Thu Jan 6 15:27:27 2011
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 08:27:27 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6B Front Brake Caliper rebuild
In-Reply-To: <001701cbad9d$46f03850$d4d0a8f0$@net.au>
References: <BLU156-ds1DBD90DB27C264D8EDF0FB5090@phx.gbl>
<001701cbad9d$46f03850$d4d0a8f0$@net.au>
Message-ID: <792AF37865D64765A094EC88F1D61D89@Vista>
It can be done by you but if the pistons are pitted they need professional
help.
PVS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Mitchell" <peter_m at amnet.net.au>
To: "'Rovernet'" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 11:28 PM
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6B Front Brake Caliper rebuild
> Hello Netters,
>
> The mechanic who services my P6B has pointed out the additional amount of
> dampish brake pad dust on a front caliper- more so than on the other side,
> and he advises that this appears to be due to a weeping seal.
>
> So, it seems to be time for a caliper rebuild. I have a spare set of used
> calipers from my spares car, as well as the caliper kits, thanks to Scott
> Richmond of Scott's Old Auto Rubber. New rotors will be also required and
> as
> they are unavailable in Australia, at least at a reasonable price, will be
> coming from the UK.
>
> With the $Aust around parity with $US I thought it might be a good time to
> ask around as to whether others have had this job done recently, or
> obtained
> quotations.
>
> It would be the first time I would have done a caliper overhaul so my
> feeling is that the job should be done by professionals.
>
> Your advice/feedback would be most welcome.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Peter Mitchell
> Western Australia
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From vern at inkspotco.com Thu Jan 6 16:39:09 2011
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:39:09 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6B Front Brake Caliper rebuild
In-Reply-To: <792AF37865D64765A094EC88F1D61D89@Vista>
References: <BLU156-ds1DBD90DB27C264D8EDF0FB5090@phx.gbl>
<001701cbad9d$46f03850$d4d0a8f0$@net.au>
<792AF37865D64765A094EC88F1D61D89@Vista>
Message-ID: <D9945772-2DF1-48E9-8F70-9581EC2B15D7@inkspotco.com>
If the piston are pitted (which is more than likely if the calipers are original) they will need to be replaced.
Yours
Vern
On 2011-01-06, at 1:27 PM, Netspace wrote:
> It can be done by you but if the pistons are pitted they need professional help.
>
> PVS
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Mitchell" <peter_m at amnet.net.au>
> To: "'Rovernet'" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 11:28 PM
> Subject: [Rovernet ] P6B Front Brake Caliper rebuild
>
>
>> Hello Netters,
>>
>> The mechanic who services my P6B has pointed out the additional amount of
>> dampish brake pad dust on a front caliper- more so than on the other side,
>> and he advises that this appears to be due to a weeping seal.
>>
>> So, it seems to be time for a caliper rebuild. I have a spare set of used
>> calipers from my spares car, as well as the caliper kits, thanks to Scott
>> Richmond of Scott's Old Auto Rubber. New rotors will be also required and as
>> they are unavailable in Australia, at least at a reasonable price, will be
>> coming from the UK.
>>
>> With the $Aust around parity with $US I thought it might be a good time to
>> ask around as to whether others have had this job done recently, or obtained
>> quotations.
>>
>> It would be the first time I would have done a caliper overhaul so my
>> feeling is that the job should be done by professionals.
>>
>> Your advice/feedback would be most welcome.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Peter Mitchell
>> Western Australia
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From den at aachenkennels.com Thu Jan 6 17:15:34 2011
From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 08:15:34 +0900
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6B Front Brake Caliper rebuild
References: <BLU156-ds1DBD90DB27C264D8EDF0FB5090@phx.gbl>
<001701cbad9d$46f03850$d4d0a8f0$@net.au>
Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16132723@Server.adoptsec.local>
Hello Peter, If you want to do them yourself but need a bit of guidance
you are more than welcome to pop down and do them at my place. If you
choose to be aware thought that you may not be driving your car home as
devils law always finds something unplanned (smile).
Den.
PS Send your email to the Australian Rover email group as I'm sure I
heard that the Rover club in Vic have new disk they ordered and had
machined up.
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
On Behalf Of Peter Mitchell
Sent: Thursday, 6 January 2011 8:29 PM
To: 'Rovernet'
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6B Front Brake Caliper rebuild
Hello Netters,
The mechanic who services my P6B has pointed out the additional amount
of
dampish brake pad dust on a front caliper- more so than on the other
side,
and he advises that this appears to be due to a weeping seal.
So, it seems to be time for a caliper rebuild. I have a spare set of
used
calipers from my spares car, as well as the caliper kits, thanks to
Scott
Richmond of Scott's Old Auto Rubber. New rotors will be also required
and as
they are unavailable in Australia, at least at a reasonable price, will
be
coming from the UK.
With the $Aust around parity with $US I thought it might be a good time
to
ask around as to whether others have had this job done recently, or
obtained
quotations.
It would be the first time I would have done a caliper overhaul so my
feeling is that the job should be done by professionals.
Your advice/feedback would be most welcome.
Kind regards
Peter Mitchell
Western Australia
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From aboasberg at webtv.net Sat Jan 8 09:52:39 2011
From: aboasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg)
Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 15:52:39 GMT
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover 3500S Door
Message-ID: <BLU156-ds19192C556C93E1A6C278C2B50C0@phx.gbl>
Dear Dirk:
Thanks for your very generous offer.
The body shop most likely will be able to save and repair the damaged door so I will probably not need a replacement door.
I nevertheless appreciate your kind offer of assistance.
Best regards,
Albert
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sun Jan 9 13:25:44 2011
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 11:25:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Administrivia
Message-ID: <159274.83232.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hi,
I am back online after many weeks in hospital getting heart bypass surgery.
Sorry?if your membership applications were delayed.
Also, I addition to the pile of spam, many people have tried to overload the
system by not?posting in a mailing list format.
Dave Read: if you have time would you post?a review of netiquette?
Thanks,
Eric Russell
?"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
From irishrover1 at live.com Sun Jan 9 13:16:54 2011
From: irishrover1 at live.com (Frederick Ben Rodgers)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 16:16:54 -0300
Subject: [Rovernet ] Administrivia
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References: <159274.83232.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <COL111-W46FDBF41EF422F65E6FC29870D0@phx.gbl>
Hi Eric
So very sorry to hear of your latest health problem, Linda and I hope you are making a complete recovery, so does Yoda!! Be wise now and take things easy, don't worry about Rovernet it will survive.
Best Wishes Ben
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> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 11:25:44 -0800
> From: p6rovers at yahoo.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Administrivia
>
> Hi,
> I am back online after many weeks in hospital getting heart bypass surgery.
> Sorry if your membership applications were delayed.
>
> Also, I addition to the pile of spam, many people have tried to overload the
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> Dave Read: if you have time would you post a review of netiquette?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric Russell
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> "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
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From flemna at yahoo.ca Sun Jan 9 13:54:27 2011
From: flemna at yahoo.ca (Fred Lemna)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 11:54:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Administrivia
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Hi Eric,
<Of course, happy new years to you...and a good journey into 2011...
<Bypass surgery...my friend Richard whom you met had triple bypass surgery
during the summer...think he did much
better than you as he was in hospital for about two weeks...hope you are feeling
better...Richard's recovery was
much speedier at home of course...
<Sorry to hear about this actually...have had a few of my friends now go through
this...
All the best to you and yours,
Regards,
Fred Lemna
Chilliwack
________________________________
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To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sun, January 9, 2011 11:25:44 AM
Subject: [Rovernet ] Administrivia
Hi,
I am back online after many weeks in hospital getting heart bypass surgery.
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Also, I addition to the pile of spam, many people have tried to overload the
system by not posting in a mailing list format.
Dave Read: if you have time would you post a review of netiquette?
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From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 13:38:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Administrivia
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Ben,
We'll connect off list as the months progress as we review our travel plans and
hope that they can be realized.
Eric
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Hi Eric
? ? ? ? So very sorry to hear of your latest health problem,? Linda and I hope
you are making a complete recovery, so does Yoda!! Be wise now and take things
easy, don't worry about Rovernet it will survive.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Best Wishes? Ben
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> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 11:25:44 -0800
> From: p6rovers at yahoo.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Administrivia
>
> Hi,
> I am back online after many weeks in hospital getting heart bypass surgery.
> Sorry if your membership applications were delayed.
>
> Also, I addition to the pile of spam, many people have tried to overload the
> system by not posting in a mailing list format.
>
> Dave Read: if you have time would you post a review of netiquette?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric Russell
>? "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
> "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure
>to scroll down the whole page.
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From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Sun Jan 9 16:24:16 2011
From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:54:16 +1030
Subject: [Rovernet ] Administrivia Ramblings
In-Reply-To: <159274.83232.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <159274.83232.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4D2A3590.9060102@ozemail.com.au>
Hi Eric
Sorry to hear of your recent confinement.
Chris and I will pray for a rapid return to full function.
Hmmmm ....... Netiquette!
WAFFLE .....
In these high tech times, it is worthwhile to note that not all citizens have internet!
US STATISTICS - http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats2.htm
Projected population for 2010 is approx. 344,000,000
Currently 77.4% have internet access - 5% still use 56K dialup
That's approx. 13,300,000 subscribers!!
CASE STUDY ....
Recently, here in South Oz, water restrictions were enforced and the details posted on the authority's website.
After more than a few citizens were warned and some fined for breaches, it came to light most were blissfully unaware of their existence,
because most did not even own a computer, smartphone etc., let alone the internet! Successful court appeals followed!
SOLUTION .... send the restriction conditions out with the hardcopy quarterly accounts already sent to ALL consumers!
DUH! .... not rocket science I would have thought, but we were dealing with bureaucracy. <smile>
LESSON LEARNED .... NEVER assume *everyone* has the facilities you have.
Use the lowest common denominator theory so that *all* can participate.
BACK ON TOPIC
A parallel situation exists here in "mailing list" land.
Mailing lists were first designed as, and still are, a simple method of communicating _facts_ and *information* to all.
It was never designed to carry anything else except PLAIN TEXT. Indeed, HTML was not even close to the horizon then!
Some lists evolved to embrace the HTML standard such as Yahoo! and AOL (shudder) etc, but most stayed as they were born.
Simple, uncomplicated, information forums such as ours.
WHY IS PLAIN TEXT VITAL TO MAILING LISTS
Plain text:-
1. is small in size - it is easily downloaded with a 56K dialup connection - not all have ADSL2+ or cable -- see the US stats above
2. cannot hide viruses and other associated nasties - malicious executable code/scripts can be hidden within non-plain text code
3. does not clog up the limited disk space of mailing list servers - some list servers simply bounce or dump non plain text messages on contact,
but even this takes up valuable server tine to the detriment of the passage of other data.
Most mail servers have a maximum message size easily exceeded by most non-text messages.
SOLUTIONS
1. You can still *emphasise* with asterisks _emphasise_ with underlining and just plain SHOUT (with caution)!
;-)
2. Emoticons can be used too too .....
http://www.georgehernandez.com/h/xComputers/Communicating/eSpeak/Emoticons.asp
3. General netiquette ......
http://www.albury.net.au/new-users/netiquet.htm
4. Info on digests and other stuff here ......
http://greenyes.grrn.org/netiquette.html
5. Individual browser's "how to" info here for members more savvy with Rovers than the dark depths of the web .....
http://email.about.com/cs/netiquettetips/qt/et070103.htm
On 10/01/2011 5:55 AM, Eric Russell wrote:
> Hi,
> I am back online after many weeks in hospital getting heart bypass surgery.
> Sorry if your membership applications were delayed.
>
> Also, I addition to the pile of spam, many people have tried to overload the
> system by not posting in a mailing list format.
>
> Dave Read: if you have time would you post a review of netiquette?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric Russell
HTH
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
From robertime at cavtel.net Sun Jan 9 18:46:26 2011
From: robertime at cavtel.net (ROBERT HEIMERL)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 19:46:26 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <159274.83232.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <159274.83232.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinJFxuEEHVtO+h5=v6mJ1HoPE_YX9JXnfy=Ct7N@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Eric,
Best of luck with the health challenges you're currently facing -- may you
enjoy a smooth and steady recovery now that you're back at home. And thanks
for all your hard work on behalf of Rovernet participants, it's been much
appreciated!
I recently referred a fellow in NJ to you as his best prospect for
circulating word to other Rover owners that he has several SD1's he'd like
to sell. Little did I know you were dealing with a far more urgent
situation. These other matters can wait.
Best Wishes for a Happy New Year,
Robert Heimerl
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> I am back online after many weeks in hospital getting heart bypass surgery.
> Sorry if your membership applications were delayed.
>
> Also, I addition to the pile of spam, many people have tried to overload
> the
> system by not posting in a mailing list format.
>
> Dave Read: if you have time would you post a review of netiquette?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric Russell
> "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
> "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
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From kkinard at att.net Sun Jan 9 19:26:56 2011
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 19:26:56 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <159274.83232.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <159274.83232.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4D2A6060.6030909@att.net>
Hi Eric,
Glad you are progressing. Will continue to lift you up in our prayers.
Kent and Sheila Kinard
Eric Russell wrote:
> Hi,
> I am back online after many weeks in hospital getting heart bypass surgery.
> Sorry if your membership applications were delayed.
>
> Also, I addition to the pile of spam, many people have tried to overload the
> system by not posting in a mailing list format.
>
> Dave Read: if you have time would you post a review of netiquette?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric Russell
> "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
> "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
>
From peterhut at activ8.net.au Sun Jan 9 19:30:11 2011
From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:30:11 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet ] Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <159274.83232.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <159274.83232.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <tvnki6d5d8tn0l6u53654d273erbkv6k41@4ax.com>
On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 11:25:44 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
Hi Eric,
>I am back online after many weeks in hospital getting heart bypass surgery.
Sorry to hear this, especially over the holiday season. I hope you
have a speedy and full recovery.
>Also, I addition to the pile of spam, many people have tried to overload the
>system by not?posting in a mailing list format.
Don't worry about the group, get yourself back to full health, that is
the most important thing.
Cheers,
Peter H
From peterhut at activ8.net.au Sun Jan 9 19:35:50 2011
From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:35:50 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet ] Administrivia Ramblings
In-Reply-To: <4D2A3590.9060102@ozemail.com.au>
References: <159274.83232.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<4D2A3590.9060102@ozemail.com.au>
Message-ID: <v9oki6p9drnrb6h54tj8dk6gjnn98cpbii@4ax.com>
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:54:16 +1030, you wrote:
>After more than a few citizens were warned and some fined for breaches, it came to light most were blissfully unaware of their existence, because most did not even own a computer, smartphone etc., let alone the internet!
Here in Tasmania, we are part of the first part of the National
Broadband Rollout. Residents in Hobart were given the choice of
whether or not they wanted their house to be connected to the fibre
cable as it went down their street.
A large proportion (certainly over 50%) said no!!
So you are right, Industry and Government should not assume everyone
has access or even wants access. Postage should continue to be main
contact meduim.
Cheers,
Peter H
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon Jan 10 11:48:12 2011
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 09:48:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Administrivia Ramblings
In-Reply-To: <4D2A3590.9060102@ozemail.com.au>
References: <159274.83232.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<4D2A3590.9060102@ozemail.com.au>
Message-ID: <380973.83944.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Dave, thanks a million for these reminders.
Thanks for your warm thoughts. We haven't been given a day but signs point to
discharge near the end of the week.
Eric
?"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
----- Original Message ----
From: David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au>
To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sun, January 9, 2011 2:24:16 PM
Subject: [Rovernet ] Administrivia Ramblings
Hi Eric
Sorry to hear of your recent confinement.
Chris and I will pray for a rapid return to full function.
Hmmmm ....... Netiquette!
WAFFLE .....
In these high tech times, it is worthwhile to note that not all citizens have
internet!
US STATISTICS - http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats2.htm
Projected population for 2010 is approx. 344,000,000
Currently 77.4% have internet access - 5% still use 56K dialup
That's approx. 13,300,000 subscribers!!
CASE STUDY ....
Recently, here in South Oz, water restrictions were enforced and the details
posted on the authority's website.
After more than a few citizens were warned and some fined for breaches, it came
to light most were blissfully unaware of their existence,
because most did not even own a computer, smartphone etc., let alone the
internet! Successful court appeals followed!
SOLUTION .... send the restriction conditions out with the hardcopy quarterly
accounts already sent to ALL consumers!
DUH! .... not rocket science I would have thought, but we were dealing with
bureaucracy. <smile>
LESSON LEARNED .... NEVER assume *everyone* has the facilities you have.
Use the lowest common denominator theory so that *all* can participate.
BACK ON TOPIC
A parallel situation exists here in "mailing list" land.
Mailing lists were first designed as, and still are, a simple method of
communicating _facts_ and *information* to all.
It was never designed to carry anything else except PLAIN TEXT. Indeed, HTML was
not even close to the horizon then!
Some lists evolved to embrace the HTML standard such as Yahoo! and AOL (shudder)
etc, but most stayed as they were born.
Simple, uncomplicated, information forums such as ours.
WHY IS PLAIN TEXT VITAL TO MAILING LISTS
Plain text:-
1. is small in size? -? it is easily downloaded with a 56K dialup connection -
not all have ADSL2+ or cable -- see the US stats above
2. cannot hide viruses and other associated nasties? -? malicious executable
code/scripts can be hidden within non-plain text code
3. does not clog up the limited disk space of mailing list servers - some list
servers simply bounce or dump non plain text messages on contact,
but even this takes up valuable server tine to the detriment of the passage of
other data.
Most mail servers have a maximum message size easily exceeded by most non-text
messages.
SOLUTIONS
1. You can still *emphasise* with asterisks _emphasise_ with underlining and
just plain SHOUT (with caution)!
;-)
2. Emoticons can be used too too .....
http://www.georgehernandez.com/h/xComputers/Communicating/eSpeak/Emoticons.asp
3. General netiquette ......
http://www.albury.net.au/new-users/netiquet.htm
4. Info on digests and other stuff here ......
http://greenyes.grrn.org/netiquette.html
5. Individual browser's "how to" info here for members more savvy with Rovers
than the dark depths of the web .....
http://email.about.com/cs/netiquettetips/qt/et070103.htm
On 10/01/2011 5:55 AM, Eric Russell wrote:
> Hi,
> I am back online after many weeks in hospital getting heart bypass surgery.
> Sorry if your membership applications were delayed.
>
> Also, I addition to the pile of spam, many people have tried to overload the
> system by not posting in a mailing list format.
>
> Dave Read: if you have time would you post a review of netiquette?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric Russell
HTH
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
To unsubscribe from the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to
scroll down the whole page.
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From sdibdin at gmail.com Mon Jan 10 11:55:03 2011
From: sdibdin at gmail.com (Steven Dibdin)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:55:03 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Administrivia Ramblings
In-Reply-To: <380973.83944.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <159274.83232.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<4D2A3590.9060102@ozemail.com.au>
<380973.83944.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimc+oTTmjKBQJS9rsbnSvErVSEhP0kxye_NLvvo@mail.gmail.com>
Eric,
I hope you have the speediest of recoveries. I had rather hoped you'd be
done with all this hospital malarkey after your previous troubles.
Thanking of you,
Steven
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dave, thanks a million for these reminders.
> Thanks for your warm thoughts. We haven't been given a day but signs point
> to
> discharge near the end of the week.
>
> Eric
>
> "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
> "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au>
> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Sun, January 9, 2011 2:24:16 PM
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Administrivia Ramblings
>
> Hi Eric
> Sorry to hear of your recent confinement.
> Chris and I will pray for a rapid return to full function.
>
> Hmmmm ....... Netiquette!
>
> WAFFLE .....
> In these high tech times, it is worthwhile to note that not all citizens
> have
> internet!
>
> US STATISTICS - http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats2.htm
> Projected population for 2010 is approx. 344,000,000
> Currently 77.4% have internet access - 5% still use 56K dialup
>
> That's approx. 13,300,000 subscribers!!
>
> CASE STUDY ....
> Recently, here in South Oz, water restrictions were enforced and the
> details
> posted on the authority's website.
> After more than a few citizens were warned and some fined for breaches, it
> came
> to light most were blissfully unaware of their existence,
>
> because most did not even own a computer, smartphone etc., let alone the
> internet! Successful court appeals followed!
>
> SOLUTION .... send the restriction conditions out with the hardcopy
> quarterly
> accounts already sent to ALL consumers!
> DUH! .... not rocket science I would have thought, but we were dealing with
> bureaucracy. <smile>
>
> LESSON LEARNED .... NEVER assume *everyone* has the facilities you have.
> Use the lowest common denominator theory so that *all* can participate.
>
> BACK ON TOPIC
> A parallel situation exists here in "mailing list" land.
>
> Mailing lists were first designed as, and still are, a simple method of
> communicating _facts_ and *information* to all.
> It was never designed to carry anything else except PLAIN TEXT. Indeed,
> HTML was
> not even close to the horizon then!
>
> Some lists evolved to embrace the HTML standard such as Yahoo! and AOL
> (shudder)
> etc, but most stayed as they were born.
> Simple, uncomplicated, information forums such as ours.
>
> WHY IS PLAIN TEXT VITAL TO MAILING LISTS
> Plain text:-
> 1. is small in size - it is easily downloaded with a 56K dialup
> connection -
> not all have ADSL2+ or cable -- see the US stats above
> 2. cannot hide viruses and other associated nasties - malicious
> executable
> code/scripts can be hidden within non-plain text code
> 3. does not clog up the limited disk space of mailing list servers - some
> list
> servers simply bounce or dump non plain text messages on contact,
>
> but even this takes up valuable server tine to the detriment of the passage
> of
> other data.
> Most mail servers have a maximum message size easily exceeded by most
> non-text
> messages.
>
> SOLUTIONS
> 1. You can still *emphasise* with asterisks _emphasise_ with underlining
> and
> just plain SHOUT (with caution)!
> ;-)
>
> 2. Emoticons can be used too too .....
>
> http://www.georgehernandez.com/h/xComputers/Communicating/eSpeak/Emoticons.asp
>
> 3. General netiquette ......
> http://www.albury.net.au/new-users/netiquet.htm
>
> 4. Info on digests and other stuff here ......
> http://greenyes.grrn.org/netiquette.html
>
> 5. Individual browser's "how to" info here for members more savvy with
> Rovers
> than the dark depths of the web .....
> http://email.about.com/cs/netiquettetips/qt/et070103.htm
>
> On 10/01/2011 5:55 AM, Eric Russell wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I am back online after many weeks in hospital getting heart bypass
> surgery.
> > Sorry if your membership applications were delayed.
> >
> > Also, I addition to the pile of spam, many people have tried to overload
> the
> > system by not posting in a mailing list format.
> >
> > Dave Read: if you have time would you post a review of netiquette?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Eric Russell
>
> HTH
>
> Cheers
> Dave
> South Oz
>
> To unsubscribe from the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
> sure to
> scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
>
>
>
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> sure to scroll down the whole page.
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From slatskars at comcast.net Mon Jan 10 12:57:29 2011
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:57:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <159274.83232.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1944422580.1014741.1294685849414.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Eric,
Welcome to the "club"! I hope yours was as successful as mine. You say weeks in the hospital. did you have complications? I was released after just one week following surgery and that was too long. I couldn't wait to get out of there. The care was great, but I really wanted a good nights sleep.
They found that my heart was in good shape, with no signs of stroke or heart attack. It was very good timing. I am now in cardiac rehab, building up gradually. We leave for three weeks in Hawaii, Friday, which of course will help in the recovery. It will be three months since surgery when we return and I can finally lift more than ten pounds. The sternum healing is a slow process, but going well. Come join us, we have a two bedroom cottage on the beach.
All the best in your recovery,
Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sunday, January 9, 2011 11:25:44 AM
Subject: [Rovernet ] Administrivia
Hi,
I am back online after many weeks in hospital getting heart bypass surgery.
Sorry?if your membership applications were delayed.
Also, I addition to the pile of spam, many people have tried to overload the
system by not?posting in a mailing list format.
Dave Read: if you have time would you post?a review of netiquette?
Thanks,
Eric Russell
?"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
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From gillis at ecc.edu Mon Jan 10 14:59:59 2011
From: gillis at ecc.edu (Gillis, Greg)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 20:59:59 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover 3500S Door
In-Reply-To: <BLU156-ds19192C556C93E1A6C278C2B50C0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU156-ds19192C556C93E1A6C278C2B50C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <67784E99A25E234AA8C7EC9F7545336845EB65D6@ECCEX1.ecc.edu>
Hi,
I bought a 1947 Rover. Is this the P2 model? I need a gas tank. Does anyone make reproductions? Has anyone tried to install a Fuel Cell?
Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Albert Boasberg
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 10:53 AM
To: Rovernet
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover 3500S Door
Dear Dirk:
Thanks for your very generous offer.
The body shop most likely will be able to save and repair the damaged door so I will probably not need a replacement door.
I nevertheless appreciate your kind offer of assistance.
Best regards,
Albert
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From den at aachenkennels.com Mon Jan 10 17:17:20 2011
From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 08:17:20 +0900
Subject: [Rovernet ] Fuel tank
References: <BLU156-ds19192C556C93E1A6C278C2B50C0@phx.gbl>
<67784E99A25E234AA8C7EC9F7545336845EB65D6@ECCEX1.ecc.edu>
Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16132751@Server.adoptsec.local>
Hi Greg,
Try the RSR in UK they have spares. If you get stuck I have two however
you will have to get them sent from Perth West Australia.
Fuel tanks for these old rovers are simple things to make so before
shipping I would get photos and measurements and pay a good body shop a
visit for a chat. Thinking on those lines, the filler pipe would be the
hardest to make if yours is missing a complete tank I think I would see
if I could get that alone sent over and make the rest.
You dont mention if your car is a 6 light or SS?
Den.
From scottsoldautorubber at bigpond.com.au Mon Jan 10 17:34:28 2011
From: scottsoldautorubber at bigpond.com.au (Scott Richmond)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:34:28 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet ] Administrivia Ramblings
References: <159274.83232.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com><4D2A3590.9060102@ozemail.com.au>
<380973.83944.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <85DFA9B48B80476F9CA54FB73A7A80DB@userpc>
Good luck my boy, the Rover world misses you!!
New email address: scott at scottsoldautorubber.com.au
New postal address: P.O. Box 105, Mount Waverley 3149
www.scottsoldautorubber.com.au
Open 9 - 5.00 Monday to Friday.
Closed Saturday and Sunday.
Automotive Rubber and Seals for Many Makes and Models,
12 Haughton Road, Oakleigh, Melbourne 3166, Australia.
Phone and Fax: + 61- 3 - 9563 3023
http://www.xe.net/pca/ (Currency Converter)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 4:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Administrivia Ramblings
Dave, thanks a million for these reminders.
Thanks for your warm thoughts. We haven't been given a day but signs point
to
discharge near the end of the week.
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
----- Original Message ----
From: David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au>
To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sun, January 9, 2011 2:24:16 PM
Subject: [Rovernet ] Administrivia Ramblings
Hi Eric
Sorry to hear of your recent confinement.
Chris and I will pray for a rapid return to full function.
Hmmmm ....... Netiquette!
WAFFLE .....
In these high tech times, it is worthwhile to note that not all citizens
have
internet!
US STATISTICS - http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats2.htm
Projected population for 2010 is approx. 344,000,000
Currently 77.4% have internet access - 5% still use 56K dialup
That's approx. 13,300,000 subscribers!!
CASE STUDY ....
Recently, here in South Oz, water restrictions were enforced and the details
posted on the authority's website.
After more than a few citizens were warned and some fined for breaches, it
came
to light most were blissfully unaware of their existence,
because most did not even own a computer, smartphone etc., let alone the
internet! Successful court appeals followed!
SOLUTION .... send the restriction conditions out with the hardcopy
quarterly
accounts already sent to ALL consumers!
DUH! .... not rocket science I would have thought, but we were dealing with
bureaucracy. <smile>
LESSON LEARNED .... NEVER assume *everyone* has the facilities you have.
Use the lowest common denominator theory so that *all* can participate.
BACK ON TOPIC
A parallel situation exists here in "mailing list" land.
Mailing lists were first designed as, and still are, a simple method of
communicating _facts_ and *information* to all.
It was never designed to carry anything else except PLAIN TEXT. Indeed, HTML
was
not even close to the horizon then!
Some lists evolved to embrace the HTML standard such as Yahoo! and AOL
(shudder)
etc, but most stayed as they were born.
Simple, uncomplicated, information forums such as ours.
WHY IS PLAIN TEXT VITAL TO MAILING LISTS
Plain text:-
1. is small in size - it is easily downloaded with a 56K dialup connection -
not all have ADSL2+ or cable -- see the US stats above
2. cannot hide viruses and other associated nasties - malicious executable
code/scripts can be hidden within non-plain text code
3. does not clog up the limited disk space of mailing list servers - some
list
servers simply bounce or dump non plain text messages on contact,
but even this takes up valuable server tine to the detriment of the passage
of
other data.
Most mail servers have a maximum message size easily exceeded by most
non-text
messages.
SOLUTIONS
1. You can still *emphasise* with asterisks _emphasise_ with underlining and
just plain SHOUT (with caution)!
;-)
2. Emoticons can be used too too .....
http://www.georgehernandez.com/h/xComputers/Communicating/eSpeak/Emoticons.asp
3. General netiquette ......
http://www.albury.net.au/new-users/netiquet.htm
4. Info on digests and other stuff here ......
http://greenyes.grrn.org/netiquette.html
5. Individual browser's "how to" info here for members more savvy with
Rovers
than the dark depths of the web .....
http://email.about.com/cs/netiquettetips/qt/et070103.htm
On 10/01/2011 5:55 AM, Eric Russell wrote:
> Hi,
> I am back online after many weeks in hospital getting heart bypass
> surgery.
> Sorry if your membership applications were delayed.
>
> Also, I addition to the pile of spam, many people have tried to overload
> the
> system by not posting in a mailing list format.
>
> Dave Read: if you have time would you post a review of netiquette?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric Russell
HTH
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
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From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Mon Jan 10 18:44:24 2011
From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:14:24 +1030
Subject: [Rovernet ] Administrivia Ramblings
In-Reply-To: <380973.83944.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <159274.83232.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4D2A3590.9060102@ozemail.com.au>
<380973.83944.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4D2BA7E8.2040008@ozemail.com.au>
Hi Eric
For members with absolutely nothing else to do
;-)
I have reformatted the 1995 Netiquette Guide-lines RFC:1885 document into a Word .DOC file available at the top of this page ....
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~defender110 at ozemail.com.au/mypage/miscellaneous.htm
Joyous reading ;- )
Please spare a thought for the unlucky souls battling the Queensland floods.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/8250531/Australia-floods-wave-of-mud-covers-Queensland-city.html
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=queensland+floods
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=toowoomba+floods
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
On 11/01/2011 4:18 AM, Eric Russell wrote:
> Dave, thanks a million for these reminders.
> Thanks for your warm thoughts. We haven't been given a day but signs point to
> discharge near the end of the week.
>
> Eric
From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Tue Jan 11 09:01:46 2011
From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:01:46 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Nada bumper
Message-ID: <BAY153-w194B476DCA3CFCAF8B6F90DE0F0@phx.gbl>
Hi all........
I'm looking for a good straight rear bumper for my 3500S NADA.......i could use a front also if you have both in good shape.....I'll get them rechromed if necessary....i've had a mishap with my rear bumper and it is now damaged beyond repair...my front did have a slight rust crack and thus if i could find a good solid one i would replace it also
Thanks
Bill Robertson
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From bsaunders at firstva.com Tue Jan 11 09:13:21 2011
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:13:21 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Nada bumper
In-Reply-To: <BAY153-w194B476DCA3CFCAF8B6F90DE0F0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY153-w194B476DCA3CFCAF8B6F90DE0F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <F4C847D11F8341519FF850143C27DB9A@SD1>
Hi Bill,
I will trade you both my bumpers for some photos of your P3. Where are you
located? I am in central Virginia US so the shipping may be high. I am still
working on my 1948 P3 and need to see how the interior was done. Call me if
you are interested. 4348423667
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Bill Robertson
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:02 AM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Nada bumper
Hi all........
I'm looking for a good straight rear bumper for my 3500S
NADA.......i could use a front also if you have both in good shape.....I'll
get them rechromed if necessary....i've had a mishap with my rear bumper and
it is now damaged beyond repair...my front did have a slight rust crack and
thus if i could find a good solid one i would replace it also
Thanks
Bill Robertson
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Jan 11 12:00:47 2011
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:00:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <1944422580.1014741.1294685849414.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1944422580.1014741.1294685849414.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <301765.25095.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Slats,
Our results sound similar. We?are awaiting for small technical test results to
be?in order. This is the main heart hospital in Canada and they won't release a
person unless they are in near "mint" condition :-)
Have a great holiday. We have our eyes on?Hawaii near the end of the year and
hope to travel with another couple, one?who has?had the "heart" experience.
Eric
?"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
-----
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Jan 11 12:04:21 2011
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:04:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Administrivia Ramblings
In-Reply-To: <4D2BA7E8.2040008@ozemail.com.au>
References: <159274.83232.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<4D2A3590.9060102@ozemail.com.au>
<380973.83944.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<4D2BA7E8.2040008@ozemail.com.au>
Message-ID: <321886.20049.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Thanks, Dave.
We think of the Queensland flood every day and are sorry for the people and
animals caught out. The news videos are graphic in showing how all that water
has moved. Best wishes to the Queensland folk.
Eric
?"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
----- Original Message ----
From: David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au>
To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Mon, January 10, 2011 4:44:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Administrivia Ramblings
Hi Eric
For members with absolutely nothing else to do
;-)
I have reformatted the 1995 Netiquette Guide-lines RFC:1885 document into a Word
.DOC file available at the top of this page ....
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~defender110 at ozemail.com.au/mypage/miscellaneous.htm
Joyous reading ;- )
Please spare a thought for the unlucky souls battling the Queensland floods.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/8250531/Australia-floods-wave-of-mud-covers-Queensland-city.html
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=queensland+floods
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=toowoomba+floods
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
On 11/01/2011 4:18 AM, Eric Russell wrote:
> Dave, thanks a million for these reminders.
> Thanks for your warm thoughts. We haven't been given a day but signs point to
> discharge near the end of the week.
>
> Eric
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Tue Jan 11 16:21:49 2011
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 23:21:49 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Administrivia Ramblings
In-Reply-To: <85DFA9B48B80476F9CA54FB73A7A80DB@userpc>
References: <159274.83232.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com><4D2A3590.9060102@ozemail.com.au><380973.83944.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<85DFA9B48B80476F9CA54FB73A7A80DB@userpc>
Message-ID: <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B95966E9344@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel>
Dear Eric,
hope everything well.
I came back yesterday, and having been away for several days I did not read about your recent problems.
Happy to know you've solved them and you' re in full working order.
Happy new year to all our friends, and to you in particular!!
Best regards, ciao, GR.
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Scott Richmond
Inviato: marted? 11 gennaio 2011 0.34
A: Rovernet
Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet ] Administrivia Ramblings
Good luck my boy, the Rover world misses you!!
New email address: scott at scottsoldautorubber.com.au
New postal address: P.O. Box 105, Mount Waverley 3149
www.scottsoldautorubber.com.au
Open 9 - 5.00 Monday to Friday.
Closed Saturday and Sunday.
Automotive Rubber and Seals for Many Makes and Models,
12 Haughton Road, Oakleigh, Melbourne 3166, Australia.
Phone and Fax: + 61- 3 - 9563 3023
http://www.xe.net/pca/ (Currency Converter)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 4:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Administrivia Ramblings
Dave, thanks a million for these reminders.
Thanks for your warm thoughts. We haven't been given a day but signs point
to
discharge near the end of the week.
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
----- Original Message ----
From: David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au>
To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sun, January 9, 2011 2:24:16 PM
Subject: [Rovernet ] Administrivia Ramblings
Hi Eric
Sorry to hear of your recent confinement.
Chris and I will pray for a rapid return to full function.
Hmmmm ....... Netiquette!
WAFFLE .....
In these high tech times, it is worthwhile to note that not all citizens
have
internet!
US STATISTICS - http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats2.htm
Projected population for 2010 is approx. 344,000,000
Currently 77.4% have internet access - 5% still use 56K dialup
That's approx. 13,300,000 subscribers!!
CASE STUDY ....
Recently, here in South Oz, water restrictions were enforced and the details
posted on the authority's website.
After more than a few citizens were warned and some fined for breaches, it
came
to light most were blissfully unaware of their existence,
because most did not even own a computer, smartphone etc., let alone the
internet! Successful court appeals followed!
SOLUTION .... send the restriction conditions out with the hardcopy
quarterly
accounts already sent to ALL consumers!
DUH! .... not rocket science I would have thought, but we were dealing with
bureaucracy. <smile>
LESSON LEARNED .... NEVER assume *everyone* has the facilities you have.
Use the lowest common denominator theory so that *all* can participate.
BACK ON TOPIC
A parallel situation exists here in "mailing list" land.
Mailing lists were first designed as, and still are, a simple method of
communicating _facts_ and *information* to all.
It was never designed to carry anything else except PLAIN TEXT. Indeed, HTML
was
not even close to the horizon then!
Some lists evolved to embrace the HTML standard such as Yahoo! and AOL
(shudder)
etc, but most stayed as they were born.
Simple, uncomplicated, information forums such as ours.
WHY IS PLAIN TEXT VITAL TO MAILING LISTS
Plain text:-
1. is small in size - it is easily downloaded with a 56K dialup connection -
not all have ADSL2+ or cable -- see the US stats above
2. cannot hide viruses and other associated nasties - malicious executable
code/scripts can be hidden within non-plain text code
3. does not clog up the limited disk space of mailing list servers - some
list
servers simply bounce or dump non plain text messages on contact,
but even this takes up valuable server tine to the detriment of the passage
of
other data.
Most mail servers have a maximum message size easily exceeded by most
non-text
messages.
SOLUTIONS
1. You can still *emphasise* with asterisks _emphasise_ with underlining and
just plain SHOUT (with caution)!
;-)
2. Emoticons can be used too too .....
http://www.georgehernandez.com/h/xComputers/Communicating/eSpeak/Emoticons.asp
3. General netiquette ......
http://www.albury.net.au/new-users/netiquet.htm
4. Info on digests and other stuff here ......
http://greenyes.grrn.org/netiquette.html
5. Individual browser's "how to" info here for members more savvy with
Rovers
than the dark depths of the web .....
http://email.about.com/cs/netiquettetips/qt/et070103.htm
On 10/01/2011 5:55 AM, Eric Russell wrote:
> Hi,
> I am back online after many weeks in hospital getting heart bypass
> surgery.
> Sorry if your membership applications were delayed.
>
> Also, I addition to the pile of spam, many people have tried to overload
> the
> system by not posting in a mailing list format.
>
> Dave Read: if you have time would you post a review of netiquette?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric Russell
HTH
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
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From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Tue Jan 11 16:57:01 2011
From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 09:27:01 +1030
Subject: [Rovernet ] Administrivia Ramblings
In-Reply-To: <321886.20049.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <159274.83232.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4D2A3590.9060102@ozemail.com.au> <380973.83944.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4D2BA7E8.2040008@ozemail.com.au>
<321886.20049.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4D2CE03D.3030800@ozemail.com.au>
Hi Eric
Thanks for that Eric ...
Chris and I are praying for your return to "Mint Condition" asap so you can escape your confinement.
:-)
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
On 12/01/2011 4:34 AM, Eric Russell wrote:
> Thanks, Dave.
> We think of the Queensland flood every day and are sorry for the people and
> animals caught out. The news videos are graphic in showing how all that water
> has moved. Best wishes to the Queensland folk.
>
> Eric
From allangrp at gis.net Thu Jan 13 18:20:40 2011
From: allangrp at gis.net (Joe Allan)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:20:40 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Administrivia Ramblings
In-Reply-To: <380973.83944.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <159274.83232.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com><4D2A3590.9060102@ozemail.com.au>
<380973.83944.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E2B399010F164B639E573C230257A58B@testinst44469c>
Hi Eric,
What happened re your confinement? Sorry to hear about this!
FYI.I just got out of the hospital where I was confined from Thanksgiving
through New Years Day. My problem was bullous phemphegoid - Job's curse -
an auto-immune disease that puts weepy blisters all over your body.
Fortunately, I found a person who had been cured of this insidious disease
and am now in the same program. The issue to deal with the program is that
it lasts for 4-6 months and each intravenous infusion of immunoglobbin runs
410,000. But it's worth the cost for the absence of pain and suffering.
FYI, Dirk's business is greatly improving since our last discussion.
Best to you and Linda.
Joe Allan
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Eric Russell
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 12:48 PM
To: Rovernet
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Administrivia Ramblings
Dave, thanks a million for these reminders.
Thanks for your warm thoughts. We haven't been given a day but signs point
to
discharge near the end of the week.
Eric
?"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
----- Original Message ----
From: David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au>
To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sun, January 9, 2011 2:24:16 PM
Subject: [Rovernet ] Administrivia Ramblings
Hi Eric
Sorry to hear of your recent confinement.
Chris and I will pray for a rapid return to full function.
Hmmmm ....... Netiquette!
WAFFLE .....
In these high tech times, it is worthwhile to note that not all citizens
have
internet!
US STATISTICS - http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats2.htm
Projected population for 2010 is approx. 344,000,000
Currently 77.4% have internet access - 5% still use 56K dialup
That's approx. 13,300,000 subscribers!!
CASE STUDY ....
Recently, here in South Oz, water restrictions were enforced and the details
posted on the authority's website.
After more than a few citizens were warned and some fined for breaches, it
came
to light most were blissfully unaware of their existence,
because most did not even own a computer, smartphone etc., let alone the
internet! Successful court appeals followed!
SOLUTION .... send the restriction conditions out with the hardcopy
quarterly
accounts already sent to ALL consumers!
DUH! .... not rocket science I would have thought, but we were dealing with
bureaucracy. <smile>
LESSON LEARNED .... NEVER assume *everyone* has the facilities you have.
Use the lowest common denominator theory so that *all* can participate.
BACK ON TOPIC
A parallel situation exists here in "mailing list" land.
Mailing lists were first designed as, and still are, a simple method of
communicating _facts_ and *information* to all.
It was never designed to carry anything else except PLAIN TEXT. Indeed, HTML
was
not even close to the horizon then!
Some lists evolved to embrace the HTML standard such as Yahoo! and AOL
(shudder)
etc, but most stayed as they were born.
Simple, uncomplicated, information forums such as ours.
WHY IS PLAIN TEXT VITAL TO MAILING LISTS
Plain text:-
1. is small in size? -? it is easily downloaded with a 56K dialup connection
-
not all have ADSL2+ or cable -- see the US stats above
2. cannot hide viruses and other associated nasties? -? malicious executable
code/scripts can be hidden within non-plain text code
3. does not clog up the limited disk space of mailing list servers - some
list
servers simply bounce or dump non plain text messages on contact,
but even this takes up valuable server tine to the detriment of the passage
of
other data.
Most mail servers have a maximum message size easily exceeded by most
non-text
messages.
SOLUTIONS
1. You can still *emphasise* with asterisks _emphasise_ with underlining and
just plain SHOUT (with caution)!
;-)
2. Emoticons can be used too too .....
http://www.georgehernandez.com/h/xComputers/Communicating/eSpeak/Emoticons.a
sp
3. General netiquette ......
http://www.albury.net.au/new-users/netiquet.htm
4. Info on digests and other stuff here ......
http://greenyes.grrn.org/netiquette.html
5. Individual browser's "how to" info here for members more savvy with
Rovers
than the dark depths of the web .....
http://email.about.com/cs/netiquettetips/qt/et070103.htm
On 10/01/2011 5:55 AM, Eric Russell wrote:
> Hi,
> I am back online after many weeks in hospital getting heart bypass
surgery.
> Sorry if your membership applications were delayed.
>
> Also, I addition to the pile of spam, many people have tried to overload
the
> system by not posting in a mailing list format.
>
> Dave Read: if you have time would you post a review of netiquette?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric Russell
HTH
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
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From gillis at ecc.edu Sun Jan 16 20:22:35 2011
From: gillis at ecc.edu (Gillis, Greg)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 02:22:35 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Fuel tank
In-Reply-To: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16132751@Server.adoptsec.local>
References: <BLU156-ds19192C556C93E1A6C278C2B50C0@phx.gbl>
<67784E99A25E234AA8C7EC9F7545336845EB65D6@ECCEX1.ecc.edu>,
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Hi Den,
I talked to a local guy last night who said he may be interested in fabricating one. I will take it to him within a couple days. I am near Buffalo New York USA. We have plenty of snow and it is 20 degrees C below zero.
By 6 light I assume you mean six side windows so it must be an SS (whatever that means).
Thanks for your input. I'll let you know how it goes.
Greg
________________________________________
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] on behalf of Dennis Gallacher [den at aachenkennels.com]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 6:17 PM
To: Rovernet
Subject: [Rovernet ] Fuel tank
Hi Greg,
Try the RSR in UK they have spares. If you get stuck I have two however
you will have to get them sent from Perth West Australia.
Fuel tanks for these old rovers are simple things to make so before
shipping I would get photos and measurements and pay a good body shop a
visit for a chat. Thinking on those lines, the filler pipe would be the
hardest to make if yours is missing a complete tank I think I would see
if I could get that alone sent over and make the rest.
You dont mention if your car is a 6 light or SS?
Den.
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From vmitps at netspace.net.au Sun Jan 16 22:06:31 2011
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 15:06:31 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet ] Fuel tank
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SS = Sports Saloon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gillis, Greg" <gillis at ecc.edu>
To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Fuel tank
> Hi Den,
>
> I talked to a local guy last night who said he may be interested in
> fabricating one. I will take it to him within a couple days. I am near
> Buffalo New York USA. We have plenty of snow and it is 20 degrees C below
> zero.
>
> By 6 light I assume you mean six side windows so it must be an SS
> (whatever that means).
>
> Thanks for your input. I'll let you know how it goes.
>
> Greg
> ________________________________________
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] on
> behalf of Dennis Gallacher [den at aachenkennels.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 6:17 PM
> To: Rovernet
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Fuel tank
>
> Hi Greg,
> Try the RSR in UK they have spares. If you get stuck I have two however
> you will have to get them sent from Perth West Australia.
>
> Fuel tanks for these old rovers are simple things to make so before
> shipping I would get photos and measurements and pay a good body shop a
> visit for a chat. Thinking on those lines, the filler pipe would be the
> hardest to make if yours is missing a complete tank I think I would see
> if I could get that alone sent over and make the rest.
>
> You dont mention if your car is a 6 light or SS?
>
> Den.
>
>
>
>
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From lewill at ctcweb.net Mon Jan 17 07:17:37 2011
From: lewill at ctcweb.net (larry)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 06:17:37 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Administrivia
References: <1944422580.1014741.1294685849414.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
<301765.25095.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000e01cbb648$ef4c0bb0$0201a8c0@hewlett2n8fn74>
Eric, Here is hoping for a speedy and complete recovery. Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Administrivia
Slats,
Our results sound similar. We are awaiting for small technical test results
to
be in order. This is the main heart hospital in Canada and they won't
release a
person unless they are in near "mint" condition :-)
Have a great holiday. We have our eyes on Hawaii near the end of the year
and
hope to travel with another couple, one who has had the "heart" experience.
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon Jan 17 09:45:53 2011
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 07:45:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <000e01cbb648$ef4c0bb0$0201a8c0@hewlett2n8fn74>
References: <1944422580.1014741.1294685849414.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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Thanks, Larry.
I'm at home now.exercising.
Sitting in different positions in different chairs (as opposed to a hospital
bed.)An electonic frriend movedmy desktop to the living roomand plugged it into
our 52in flat screen. I can compute in a more social environment. It takes time
to rework all the muscles that have been pulled away for the work to be done.
I.m now into rebuilding.
Thanks for asking.
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
----- Original Message ----
From: larry <lewill at ctcweb.net>
To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Mon, January 17, 2011 1:17:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Administrivia
Eric, Here is hoping for a speedy and complete recovery. Larry
----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Administrivia
Slats,
Our results sound similar. We are awaiting for small technical test results to
be in order. This is the main heart hospital in Canada and they won't release a
person unless they are in near "mint" condition :-)
Have a great holiday. We have our eyes on Hawaii near the end of the year and
hope to travel with another couple, one who has had the "heart" experience.
Eric
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"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
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From den at aachenkennels.com Mon Jan 17 17:14:28 2011
From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 08:14:28 +0900
Subject: [Rovernet ] Fuel tank
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Morning Greg,
Hope it works out for you. If you need any further help just ask away.
BTW I started a email group for us Rover chaps in Australia that now
includes many from around the world. There are a few of us old Rover
fans who are members so plenty there who will be able to help. As I set
this forum up with the intention of bringing together all of the
individual clubs and states I used the ability in Yahoo to post photos.
If you send an email to den at aachenkennels.com I'll reply with an invite
for you to join that way we keep out the spammer.
Of to the garage to learn how to make a wiring loom ! see you in a
fortnight....!!!!
Den
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
On Behalf Of Gillis, Greg
Sent: Monday, 17 January 2011 10:23 AM
To: Rovernet
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Fuel tank
Hi Den,
I talked to a local guy last night who said he may be interested in
fabricating one. I will take it to him within a couple days. I am near
Buffalo New York USA. We have plenty of snow and it is 20 degrees C
below zero.
By 6 light I assume you mean six side windows so it must be an SS
(whatever that means).
Thanks for your input. I'll let you know how it goes.
Greg
________________________________________
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] on
behalf of Dennis Gallacher [den at aachenkennels.com]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 6:17 PM
To: Rovernet
Subject: [Rovernet ] Fuel tank
Hi Greg,
Try the RSR in UK they have spares. If you get stuck I have two however
you will have to get them sent from Perth West Australia.
Fuel tanks for these old rovers are simple things to make so before
shipping I would get photos and measurements and pay a good body shop a
visit for a chat. Thinking on those lines, the filler pipe would be the
hardest to make if yours is missing a complete tank I think I would see
if I could get that alone sent over and make the rest.
You dont mention if your car is a 6 light or SS?
Den.
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From robert at clocksoft.com Tue Jan 18 05:24:50 2011
From: robert at clocksoft.com (Robert Pinner)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:24:50 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Daimler dart rear axle
Message-ID: <4D357882.5080901@clocksoft.com>
Hi,
A friend of mine is struggling to take the hubs off a Daimler dart rear
axle.
I know it's a long shot, but does anyone on here know the secret? He's
been fighting it for two days!
Thanks in Advance
Robert
From gyfrancis at adam.com.au Tue Jan 18 05:33:15 2011
From: gyfrancis at adam.com.au (Grant Francis)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 22:03:15 +1030
Subject: [Rovernet ] Daimler dart rear axle
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Message-ID: <4D357A7B.1090003@adam.com.au>
Morning,
From memory, hahaha, same as Jaguar MK2, and the Daimler sedan variant,
and they are a mongrel on a good day. Jaguar had a "special" puller for
it, and it is a top hat thingy (heavy gauge steel, real heavy duty) with
what we call a "porta power" hydraulic press incorporated. It was a
heavy piece of steel, it bolted to the wheel studs, and even then some
of them would NOT come off, even with heat applied.
Grant
On 18/01/2011 9:54 PM, Robert Pinner wrote:
> Hi,
>
> A friend of mine is struggling to take the hubs off a Daimler dart
> rear axle.
>
> I know it's a long shot, but does anyone on here know the secret? He's
> been fighting it for two days!
>
> Thanks in Advance
>
> Robert
>
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From robert at clocksoft.com Tue Jan 18 07:56:46 2011
From: robert at clocksoft.com (Robert Pinner)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 13:56:46 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Daimler dart rear axle
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Thanks Grant,
I've passed this message on to him.
Robert
Grant Francis wrote:
> Morning,
>
> From memory, hahaha, same as Jaguar MK2, and the Daimler sedan variant,
> and they are a mongrel on a good day. Jaguar had a "special" puller for
> it, and it is a top hat thingy (heavy gauge steel, real heavy duty) with
> what we call a "porta power" hydraulic press incorporated. It was a
> heavy piece of steel, it bolted to the wheel studs, and even then some
> of them would NOT come off, even with heat applied.
>
> Grant
>
> On 18/01/2011 9:54 PM, Robert Pinner wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> A friend of mine is struggling to take the hubs off a Daimler dart
>> rear axle.
>>
>> I know it's a long shot, but does anyone on here know the secret? He's
>> been fighting it for two days!
>>
>> Thanks in Advance
>>
>> Robert
>>
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From jaguru at bellsouth.net Tue Jan 18 08:29:31 2011
From: jaguru at bellsouth.net (jaguru at bellsouth.net)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 09:29:31 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Daimler dart rear axle
In-Reply-To: <4D357882.5080901@clocksoft.com>
References: <4D357882.5080901@clocksoft.com>
Message-ID: <B1922C11323340C3B872BAEF2D2C7EBE@JamesDeanPC1>
If you have wire wheel splined hubs,(and it is same hub size as Jaguar) the
Only way is the Jaguar Churchill tool that threads on in place of the
knockoff. Contact your local Jaguar club. If it is MG size hubs, there is a
similar MG tool...It uses a threaded rod to push and is not hydraulic. It is
reproduced for about $200; but the reproduction is not as strong as the
original. If you have disc wheels, a big slide bar puller from a good old
boy pickup truck garage will work. If you pull the hub but not the axle; you
need a tool that threads on the axle , such as 2 nuts welded together, that
is mated to a heavy duty slide bar puller. You can replace the outer seal by
only pulling the hub; but you must pull the axle to replace the inner seal.
James Dean
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Pinner" <robert at clocksoft.com>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 6:24 AM
Subject: [Rovernet ] Daimler dart rear axle
> Hi,
>
> A friend of mine is struggling to take the hubs off a Daimler dart rear
> axle.
>
> I know it's a long shot, but does anyone on here know the secret? He's
> been fighting it for two days!
>
> Thanks in Advance
>
> Robert
>
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From gbbourque at gmail.com Tue Jan 18 08:46:40 2011
From: gbbourque at gmail.com (garrett bourque)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 09:46:40 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Daimler dart rear axle
In-Reply-To: <4D357882.5080901@clocksoft.com>
References: <4D357882.5080901@clocksoft.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikfWm=KaZXkaOdW2qwNEdkF9+xGrL1Y007hGW9v@mail.gmail.com>
Hello Robert,
I am not sure where you are, but a tool exists. First thing, do you have
wire wheels or bolt on ones? If you have wire wheels, you need a specially
made threaded puller. It threads on to the threads for the wire wheel nut
and pushes towards the center of the car on the end of the axle shaft. It
is a massive solid steel cylinder. It is as big around as a wire wheel hub
with a big threaded rod in the center and has threads in all the right
places.
If the car has steel wheels, you need a much smaller tool that used to
be known as a bingo popper. It screws on the threaded axle shaft, after the
split pin and axle shaft nut are removed, and allows you to hit the
tool with a big hammer, rather than damaging the threads on the axle shaft.
A few hits breaks the interference fit between them. The axle nut is out in
the open on steel wheel cars, but is hidden by the hub on wire wheel cars.
It needs to be removed in either case.
Garrett Bourque
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 6:24 AM, Robert Pinner <robert at clocksoft.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> A friend of mine is struggling to take the hubs off a Daimler dart rear
> axle.
>
> I know it's a long shot, but does anyone on here know the secret? He's been
> fighting it for two days!
>
> Thanks in Advance
>
> Robert
>
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From mgconnor11 at sbcglobal.net Tue Jan 18 10:06:57 2011
From: mgconnor11 at sbcglobal.net (Michael Connor)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 08:06:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 Shocks
Message-ID: <840425.76104.qm@web83709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Does anyone Know of a brand and number for rear P4 shock that would be available in U.S.
Texmike
Mike Connor
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From pjanusz1 at hotmail.co.uk Wed Jan 19 04:28:41 2011
From: pjanusz1 at hotmail.co.uk (Pierre Janusz)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 10:28:41 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 Shocks
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References: <840425.76104.qm@web83709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU136-W16C6FF0DC3EF558AE158B6CAF60@phx.gbl>
I still have some stock of genuine Woodhead rear shock absorbers for the P4, so contact me off the Rovernet if you are interested.
Regards,
Pierre Janusz
> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 08:06:57 -0800
> From: mgconnor11 at sbcglobal.net
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 Shocks
>
> Does anyone Know of a brand and number for rear P4 shock that would be available in U.S.
> Texmike
> Mike Connor
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From: noreply at badoo.com (Badoo)
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:27:35 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Dennis left a message for you...
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From peterhut at activ8.net.au Sat Jan 22 18:43:53 2011
From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:43:53 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet ] RCCA Display
Message-ID: <g9umj6909hcg58d7t585ma5qq2fs41arb8@4ax.com>
Some photos of last weekend's RCCA Display at Mornington Great
Australian Rally. A New South Wales Club member's 1905 Rover 6HP won
the Award for Best Veteran Car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/sets/72157625883529028/
Cheers,
Peter H
From scottsoldautorubber at bigpond.com.au Sun Jan 23 18:43:59 2011
From: scottsoldautorubber at bigpond.com.au (Scott Richmond)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:43:59 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet ] Touring boot
Message-ID: <05912BB120E74DC58A0B1B3A3C3E3C79@userpc>
Anyone in Melbourne have a Touring Kit boot lid? Or complete kit?
Thankyou,
Scott.
New email address: scott at scottsoldautorubber.com.au
New postal address: P.O. Box 105, Mount Waverley 3149
www.scottsoldautorubber.com.au
Open 9 - 5.00 Monday to Friday.
Closed Saturday and Sunday.
Automotive Rubber and Seals for Many Makes and Models,
12 Haughton Road, Oakleigh, Melbourne 3166, Australia.
Phone and Fax: + 61- 3 - 9563 3023
http://www.xe.net/pca/ (Currency Converter)
From peter_m at amnet.net.au Mon Jan 24 07:53:10 2011
From: peter_m at amnet.net.au (Peter Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:53:10 +0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P6B Ignition Module wanted
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Hello Rovernetters,
My P6B has been cutting out now and then but can be immediately restarted.
My auto electrician showed me the Ignition Module- near the dipstick- I'd
never even noticed it before- and said that was most certainly the culprit.
The big question: Where do I source such an item? Can anyone help please?
Many thanks in anticipation.
Kind regards
Peter Mitchell
Perth Western Australia
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From renovations.plus at hotmail.com Mon Jan 24 13:00:16 2011
From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com (Dennis .)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:00:16 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P6B Ignition Module wanted
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Peter...You may have also solved my P6B problem that I have been chasing for years !! ...My car rund perfectly sometimes for an hour, minute, day ....then all of a sudden it will just quit ...exactly as if someone shut it off...I try to restart the car and it may take a day or more before it will start up again ...it's just as random as can possibly be. This just might be the source of my troubles as well. When this happens ...I am getting spark and fuel ...just can't get the car to run ...it sometimes tries but seldom starts once it has died. It is the strangest problem I have ever had with this car.
Regards
Dennis Brooks
> From: peter_m at amnet.net.au
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:53:10 +0800
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P6B Ignition Module wanted
>
> Hello Rovernetters,
>
> My P6B has been cutting out now and then but can be immediately restarted.
>
> My auto electrician showed me the Ignition Module- near the dipstick- I'd
> never even noticed it before- and said that was most certainly the culprit.
>
> The big question: Where do I source such an item? Can anyone help please?
>
> Many thanks in anticipation.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Peter Mitchell
> Perth Western Australia
>
>
>
>
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From gwlucas at granite.mb.ca Mon Jan 24 13:25:53 2011
From: gwlucas at granite.mb.ca (Glen Lucas)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:25:53 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P6B Ignition Module wanted
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Have either of you tried calling a priest?
Regards
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From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Dennis .
Sent: January 24, 2011 1:00 PM
To: Rovernet
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Rover P6B Ignition Module wanted
Peter...You may have also solved my P6B problem that I have been chasing for
years !! ...My car rund perfectly sometimes for an hour, minute, day
....then all of a sudden it will just quit ...exactly as if someone shut it
off...I try to restart the car and it may take a day or more before it will
start up again ...it's just as random as can possibly be. This just might be
the source of my troubles as well. When this happens ...I am getting spark
and fuel ...just can't get the car to run ...it sometimes tries but seldom
starts once it has died. It is the strangest problem I have ever had with
this car.
Regards
Dennis Brooks
> From: peter_m at amnet.net.au
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:53:10 +0800
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P6B Ignition Module wanted
>
> Hello Rovernetters,
>
> My P6B has been cutting out now and then but can be immediately restarted.
>
> My auto electrician showed me the Ignition Module- near the dipstick- I'd
> never even noticed it before- and said that was most certainly the
culprit.
>
> The big question: Where do I source such an item? Can anyone help please?
>
> Many thanks in anticipation.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Peter Mitchell
> Perth Western Australia
>
>
>
>
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From renovations.plus at hotmail.com Mon Jan 24 13:53:24 2011
From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com (Dennis .)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:53:24 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P6B Ignition Module wanted
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LOL Glen ...I'd try Voodoo if it would help :)
> From: gwlucas at granite.mb.ca
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:25:53 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Rover P6B Ignition Module wanted
>
> Have either of you tried calling a priest?
>
> Regards
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
> Behalf Of Dennis .
> Sent: January 24, 2011 1:00 PM
> To: Rovernet
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Rover P6B Ignition Module wanted
>
>
> Peter...You may have also solved my P6B problem that I have been chasing for
> years !! ...My car rund perfectly sometimes for an hour, minute, day
> ....then all of a sudden it will just quit ...exactly as if someone shut it
> off...I try to restart the car and it may take a day or more before it will
> start up again ...it's just as random as can possibly be. This just might be
> the source of my troubles as well. When this happens ...I am getting spark
> and fuel ...just can't get the car to run ...it sometimes tries but seldom
> starts once it has died. It is the strangest problem I have ever had with
> this car.
>
> Regards
> Dennis Brooks
>
> > From: peter_m at amnet.net.au
> > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:53:10 +0800
> > Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P6B Ignition Module wanted
> >
> > Hello Rovernetters,
> >
> > My P6B has been cutting out now and then but can be immediately restarted.
> >
> > My auto electrician showed me the Ignition Module- near the dipstick- I'd
> > never even noticed it before- and said that was most certainly the
> culprit.
> >
> > The big question: Where do I source such an item? Can anyone help please?
> >
> > Many thanks in anticipation.
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Peter Mitchell
> > Perth Western Australia
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Mon Jan 24 15:18:38 2011
From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:48:38 +1030
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P6B Ignition Module wanted
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Hi Dennis/Glen
Kent, Kent where are you ....?
<vbg>.
My AU$0.02 worth.
If the ignition module is indeed faulty, I doubt if there would be a spark (as appears to be indicated) when the engine refuses to start.
The only possibility could be that he spark may be incorrectly timed.
Odd with electronics tho ......
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
On 25/01/2011 5:55 AM, Glen Lucas wrote:
> Have either of you tried calling a priest?
>
> Regards
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
> Behalf Of Dennis .
> Sent: January 24, 2011 1:00 PM
> To: Rovernet
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Rover P6B Ignition Module wanted
>
>
> Peter...You may have also solved my P6B problem that I have been chasing for
> years !! ...My car runs perfectly sometimes for an hour, minute, day
> ....then all of a sudden it will just quit ...exactly as if someone shut it
> off...I try to restart the car and it may take a day or more before it will
> start up again ...it's just as random as can possibly be. This just might be
> the source of my troubles as well. When this happens ...I am getting spark
> and fuel ...just can't get the car to run ...it sometimes tries but seldom
> starts once it has died. It is the strangest problem I have ever had with
> this car.
>
> Regards
> Dennis Brooks
>
>> From: peter_m at amnet.net.au
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:53:10 +0800
>> Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P6B Ignition Module wanted
>>
>> Hello Rovernetters,
>>
>> My P6B has been cutting out now and then but can be immediately restarted.
>>
>> My auto electrician showed me the Ignition Module- near the dipstick- I'd
>> never even noticed it before- and said that was most certainly the
> culprit.
>>
>> The big question: Where do I source such an item? Can anyone help please?
>>
>> Many thanks in anticipation.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Peter Mitchell
>> Perth Western Australia
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From kkinard at att.net Mon Jan 24 15:43:34 2011
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:43:34 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P6B Ignition Module wanted
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David Read wrote:
> Hi Dennis/Glen
> Kent, Kent where are you ....?
> <vbg>.
Right where I've been for nearly three years:-) Seriously, I'm in San
Antonio, Texas, USA.
Roverelocationally,
Kent K.
From bsaunders at firstva.com Mon Jan 24 19:38:38 2011
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:38:38 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P6B Ignition Module wanted
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I just had a similar problem with my Land Rover 6 cylinder and it turned out
to be the rotor button. Never had that happen before.
-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Kent Kinard
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 4:44 PM
To: Rovernet
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Rover P6B Ignition Module wanted
David Read wrote:
> Hi Dennis/Glen
> Kent, Kent where are you ....?
> <vbg>.
Right where I've been for nearly three years:-) Seriously, I'm in San
Antonio, Texas, USA.
Roverelocationally,
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From slatskars at comcast.net Mon Jan 24 21:12:48 2011
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 03:12:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P6B Ignition Module wanted
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Ben,
If you are talking about the rotor itself, there has been quite a few failures in MG's, the last few years. In fact I had one go out on me last July. It seems that the composition of the plastic used is not what it used to be. Made in China? The plastic insulation material actually breaks down and will short the spark right to the rotating shaft of the distributor. In the MOSS motors catalog for MGB's there are three different rotors listed. I now buy the most expensive one listed. The price difference is worth it, compared to sitting along the freeway for a couple of hours waiting for AAA on a busy day. And, yes of course it rained a little too. Until this incident, I too had never had one fail. It was fairly new also.
Slats?
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From eruditefluffwad at yahoo.com Tue Jan 25 12:13:08 2011
From: eruditefluffwad at yahoo.com (Erudite Fluffwad)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:13:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Voodoo
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I can see it now: Rover widows everywhere suddenly notice a sudden drop in the number of straight pins and baby food jars in the house!
*roll* Boys...
Laine
lol
.
>
> LOL Glen ...I'd try Voodoo if it would help :)
>
>
From peterhut at activ8.net.au Tue Jan 25 17:38:32 2011
From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 10:38:32 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovers in London to Sydney Marathon of 1993
Message-ID: <tbnuj61jp4c4hku233fbaigd2p76v7uhat@4ax.com>
There was recently some discussion on our RCCA Club forum about 1993
London to Sydney Marathon. Following this a number of our members
delved into their archives and produced some photos, which I have
posted to our Flickr site:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/sets/72157625899492098/
I have also added to the Set a few photos of one of the cars which
came up for sale in UK earlier in 2010 and another, a replica for sale
from Melbourne a few years ago.
Cheers,
Peter Huttemeier
Webmaster
Rover Car Club of Australia Inc
http://www.rovercarclubaust.asn.au/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/
From peter_m at amnet.net.au Wed Jan 26 08:16:06 2011
From: peter_m at amnet.net.au (Peter Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:16:06 +0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P6B Ignition Module - car is still cutting out
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Hello to all,
Thanks for the interesting discussion on the ignition module, but I am afraid that I don't know whether this component was fitted originally, or is part of a later electronic ignition fitted later.
The car stopped while cruising today-potentially dangerous, so further investigation is required.
Any advice welcomed.
Kind regards
Peter Mitchell
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From pfvandermeulen at cs.com Wed Jan 26 08:58:10 2011
From: pfvandermeulen at cs.com (pfvandermeulen at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:58:10 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P6B Ignition Module - car is still cutting out
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hello peter, is the module fitted inside or outside the distributor.? and is there any information on it? greetings peter from holland
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Sent: Wed, Jan 26, 2011 3:16 pm
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P6B Ignition Module - car is still cutting out
Hello to all,
Thanks for the interesting discussion on the ignition module, but I am afraid
hat I don't know whether this component was fitted originally, or is part of a
ater electronic ignition fitted later.
The car stopped while cruising today-potentially dangerous, so further
nvestigation is required.
Any advice welcomed.
Kind regards
Peter Mitchell
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Wed Jan 26 10:31:00 2011
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:31:00 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Rover P6B Ignition Module - car is still cutting out
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I am not very expert, but if it is a sd1 ignition module - very evident - it could give you similar problems.
Ballast resistors?
A friend in Udine who owns a sd1 3500 had the same troubles before their sostitution.
Hope this helps.
Best regards, GR.
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Oggetto: [Rovernet ] Rover P6B Ignition Module - car is still cutting out
Hello to all,
Thanks for the interesting discussion on the ignition module, but I am afraid that I don't know whether this component was fitted originally, or is part of a later electronic ignition fitted later.
The car stopped while cruising today-potentially dangerous, so further investigation is required.
Any advice welcomed.
Kind regards
Peter Mitchell
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From smokeandsteam at gmail.com Wed Jan 26 10:39:41 2011
From: smokeandsteam at gmail.com (Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 08:39:41 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Rover P6B Ignition Module - car is still cutting
out
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Whatever it is it sounds like a retrofit - I am not aware of any P6B
being fitted with electronic ignition from the factory
Aidrian
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:31 AM, <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com> wrote:
> I am not very expert, but if it is a sd1 ignition module - very evident - it could give you similar problems.
> Ballast resistors?
From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Wed Jan 26 10:50:35 2011
From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 03:20:35 +1030
Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Rover P6B Ignition Module - car is still cutting
out
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My 3.5 Rangie had the ignition module relocated from the distributor to the inner guard with a kit.
Seen at the lower left here ....
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~defender110 at ozemail.com.au/mypage/images/airpump.JPG
Made a huge difference in reliability away from the engine heat.
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
On 27/01/2011 3:01 AM, gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com wrote:
> I am not very expert, but if it is a sd1 ignition module - very evident - it could give you similar problems.
> Ballast resistors?
> A friend in Udine who owns a sd1 3500 had the same troubles before their sostitution.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Best regards, GR.
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Peter Mitchell
> Inviato: mercoled? 26 gennaio 2011 15.16
> A: 'Rovernet'
> Oggetto: [Rovernet ] Rover P6B Ignition Module - car is still cutting out
>
> Hello to all,
>
> Thanks for the interesting discussion on the ignition module, but I am afraid that I don't know whether this component was fitted originally, or is part of a later electronic ignition fitted later.
>
> The car stopped while cruising today-potentially dangerous, so further investigation is required.
>
> Any advice welcomed.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Peter Mitchell
From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Wed Jan 26 11:12:29 2011
From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 03:42:29 +1030
Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Rover P6B Ignition Module - car is still cutting
out
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References: <B764770C587F4973BB991A4F152E65CA@SD1><527577526.1783987.1295925168000.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <002001cbbd63$92bfb3c0$b83f1b40$@net.au>
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AFAIK, the 3.5 SD1 ignition unit was an inner wing mounted largish box with bolts to mount the coil on it's lid.
I agree that the P6B would not have had a factory fitted electronic system.
Another "cutting out" possibility is a loom chafe, possibly under some mechanical stress/movement.
My SD1 had an annoying habit of randomly running very rich under brakes???
Turned out to be a broken firewall loom clamp, allowing the loom to move forward, causing a chafing/melting/shorting contact with the exhaust
manifold!!
Wriggle all underbonnet looms with engine running.
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
On 27/01/2011 3:01 AM, gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com wrote:
> I am not very expert, but if it is a sd1 ignition module - very evident - it could give you similar problems.
> Ballast resistors?
> A friend in Udine who owns a sd1 3500 had the same troubles before their sostitution.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Best regards, GR.
> [Rovernet ] Rover P6B Ignition Module - car is still cutting out
>
> Hello to all,
>
> Thanks for the interesting discussion on the ignition module, but I am afraid that I don't know whether this component was fitted originally, or is part of a later electronic ignition fitted later.
>
> The car stopped while cruising today-potentially dangerous, so further investigation is required.
>
> Any advice welcomed.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Peter Mitchell
From roverman2 at verizon.net Wed Jan 26 15:25:27 2011
From: roverman2 at verizon.net (Dermot Harvey)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:25:27 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6B cutting out
Message-ID: <1F69ECF3-0665-44EF-B00E-FE12CE1CE1A7@verizon.net>
I would agree that your P6B has been modified - originally the car
had points. One option is to go back to points if your distributor
plate is still intact. You might want to try a new coil to
distributor wire. The carbon filling in these wires can cause
trouble if they are old and cause an intermittent cutting out.
Sometimes the ignition coil will do the same thing, particularly when
it is warm..
Alternately, you might want to replace the aftermarket ignition
module. I have had pretty good service from Lumenition systems with
early Range Rovers and Rover SD1's. They are made in England. In
the US Pertronix and Crane systems are available - don't know much
about their reliability.
Good Luck!
Dermot Harvey
Spectral Kinetics
From galmpton at shaw.ca Wed Jan 26 16:07:58 2011
From: galmpton at shaw.ca (galmpton)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:07:58 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6B cutting out
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I have had good luck with Pertronix on my other British cars and just
ordered a Pertronics distributor for my 3500 SD1 motor at a very reasonable
cost of $200.00 Canadian.
Al Gunnarson
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dermot Harvey" <roverman2 at verizon.net>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 1:25 PM
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6B cutting out
>I would agree that your P6B has been modified - originally the car had
>points. One option is to go back to points if your distributor plate is
>still intact. You might want to try a new coil to distributor wire. The
>carbon filling in these wires can cause trouble if they are old and cause
>an intermittent cutting out. Sometimes the ignition coil will do the same
>thing, particularly when it is warm..
> Alternately, you might want to replace the aftermarket ignition module. I
> have had pretty good service from Lumenition systems with early Range
> Rovers and Rover SD1's. They are made in England. In the US Pertronix
> and Crane systems are available - don't know much about their
> reliability.
>
> Good Luck!
>
> Dermot Harvey
> Spectral Kinetics
>
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From slatskars at comcast.net Wed Jan 26 18:43:51 2011
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 00:43:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6B cutting out
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I started to comment that $200 was about double the normal price when I saw that you were ordering a distributor and not just the Pertronix ignitor to convert the regular distributor. The ignitor fits everything under the regular distributor cap. The only visible sign is that there are two wires coming out of the distributor instead of one. They can be installed in just?20 minutes?and can be returned to ponits and condenser very easlily. A little more difficult on vehicles with positive ground.
Slats
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From: "galmpton" <galmpton at shaw.ca>
To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 2:07:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P6B cutting out
I have had good luck with Pertronix on my other British cars and just
ordered a Pertronics distributor for my 3500 SD1 motor at a very reasonable
cost of $200.00 Canadian.
Al Gunnarson
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From galmpton at shaw.ca Wed Jan 26 18:51:03 2011
From: galmpton at shaw.ca (galmpton)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:51:03 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6B cutting out
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Yes, I have just purchased the igniter on my other cars, but in this case, I
have completely ditched the computer and decided on the whole distributor to
ensure all was functioning well, no wear in the shafts, advances correct and
all. For the price, it is certainly worth it.
Al
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From: <slatskars at comcast.net>
To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P6B cutting out
>
>
> I started to comment that $200 was about double the normal price when I
> saw that you were ordering a distributor and not just the Pertronix
> ignitor to convert the regular distributor. The ignitor fits everything
> under the regular distributor cap. The only visible sign is that there are
> two wires coming out of the distributor instead of one. They can be
> installed in just 20 minutes and can be returned to ponits and condenser
> very easlily. A little more difficult on vehicles with positive ground.
>
>
>
> Slats
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 2:07:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P6B cutting out
>
> I have had good luck with Pertronix on my other British cars and just
> ordered a Pertronics distributor for my 3500 SD1 motor at a very
> reasonable
> cost of $200.00 Canadian.
>
> Al Gunnarson
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From den at aachenkennels.com Wed Jan 26 19:12:43 2011
From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:12:43 +0900
Subject: [Rovernet ] Pertronix
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As we are on the subject of distributors and ignition I would like to ask if anyone knows if Pertronix do a distributor for the Rover P2 1947 engine. Reading the recent post has made me wonder if something electronic would fit.
Den Gallacher
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Sent: Thursday, 27 January 2011 8:44 AM
To: Rovernet
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P6B cutting out
I started to comment that $200 was about double the normal price when I saw that you were ordering a distributor and not just the Pertronix ignitor to convert the regular distributor. The ignitor fits everything under the regular distributor cap. The only visible sign is that there are two wires coming out of the distributor instead of one. They can be installed in just?20 minutes?and can be returned to ponits and condenser very easlily. A little more difficult on vehicles with positive ground.
Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "galmpton" <galmpton at shaw.ca>
To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 2:07:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P6B cutting out
I have had good luck with Pertronix on my other British cars and just
ordered a Pertronics distributor for my 3500 SD1 motor at a very reasonable
cost of $200.00 Canadian.
Al Gunnarson
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From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Wed Jan 26 19:24:17 2011
From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:54:17 +1030
Subject: [Rovernet ] Pertronix
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Try contacting this eBay seller in the US ..... may be able to help
http://stores.ebay.com.au/Ponderosa-Mustang/_i.html?_nkw=pertronix&submit=Search&_sid=8981671
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
On 27/01/2011 11:42 AM, Dennis Gallacher wrote:
> As we are on the subject of distributors and ignition I would like to ask if anyone knows if Pertronix do a distributor for the Rover P2 1947 engine. Reading the recent post has made me wonder if something electronic would fit.
>
> Den Gallacher
From slatskars at comcast.net Wed Jan 26 19:35:37 2011
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 01:35:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Pertronix
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Dennis,
You can contact them directly at Pertronix.com. They will respond, or go to their web site for a phone number. I know they make them for MGTD's and MGTF's in both positive and negative ground versions. I have found them very responsive and easy to work with. I had two units that I thought had failed on me. Asked them for troubleshooting advice. They requested that I send the units to them for testing. They returned them booth and said that they were fine. No explanation and no charge. If they were faulty, they did repair/replace them. They are located in California.
Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Gallacher" <den at aachenkennels.com>
To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 5:12:43 PM
Subject: [Rovernet ] Pertronix
As we are on the subject of distributors and ignition I would like to ask if anyone knows if Pertronix do a distributor for the Rover P2 1947 engine. Reading the recent post has made me wonder if something electronic would fit.
Den Gallacher
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Sent: Thursday, 27 January 2011 8:44 AM
To: Rovernet
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P6B cutting out
I started to comment that $200 was about double the normal price when I saw that you were ordering a distributor and not just the Pertronix ignitor to convert the regular distributor. The ignitor fits everything under the regular distributor cap. The only visible sign is that there are two wires coming out of the distributor instead of one. They can be installed in just?20 minutes?and can be returned to ponits and condenser very easlily. A little more difficult on vehicles with positive ground.
Slats
----- Original Message -----
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To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 2:07:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P6B cutting out
I have had good luck with Pertronix on my other British cars and just
ordered a Pertronics distributor for my 3500 SD1 motor at a very reasonable
cost of $200.00 Canadian.
Al Gunnarson
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From peter_m at amnet.net.au Thu Jan 27 06:44:19 2011
From: peter_m at amnet.net.au (Peter Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:44:19 +0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P6B - Ignition Module - it is a Piranha
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Hi to all, and thanks for the many contributions on the subject of the
intermittent cutting-out of my V8's engine.
After my auto electrician pointed out the little black box near the dip
stick, mounted on the inside wheel arch, I cleaned the thing up and took
photos.
Lo and behold!! I have an old Piranha electronic ignition- it appears to
have been there for a long time, and I have had the car for 8 years.
So my next step will be to source a new electronic ignition, or to go back
to points as a cheaper option. Doing nothing is not an option, due to the
car cutting out at least once a day.
Thanks once again.
Cheers
Peter Mitchell
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From britishrover at gmail.com Thu Jan 27 09:26:45 2011
From: britishrover at gmail.com (British Rover)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:26:45 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P6B - Ignition Module - it is a Piranha
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where are the photos??...:O)
On 1/27/11, Peter Mitchell <peter_m at amnet.net.au> wrote:
> Hi to all, and thanks for the many contributions on the subject of the
> intermittent cutting-out of my V8's engine.
>
> After my auto electrician pointed out the little black box near the dip
> stick, mounted on the inside wheel arch, I cleaned the thing up and took
> photos.
>
> Lo and behold!! I have an old Piranha electronic ignition- it appears to
> have been there for a long time, and I have had the car for 8 years.
>
> So my next step will be to source a new electronic ignition, or to go back
> to points as a cheaper option. Doing nothing is not an option, due to the
> car cutting out at least once a day.
>
> Thanks once again.
>
> Cheers
>
> Peter Mitchell
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From galmpton at shaw.ca Thu Jan 27 09:51:33 2011
From: galmpton at shaw.ca (galmpton)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 07:51:33 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P6B - Ignition Module - it is a Piranha
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Clearly, there was something "fishy" going on with that ignition......
LOL....
Al
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To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 7:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Rover P6B - Ignition Module - it is a Piranha
> where are the photos??...:O)
>
> On 1/27/11, Peter Mitchell <peter_m at amnet.net.au> wrote:
>> Hi to all, and thanks for the many contributions on the subject of the
>> intermittent cutting-out of my V8's engine.
>>
>> After my auto electrician pointed out the little black box near the dip
>> stick, mounted on the inside wheel arch, I cleaned the thing up and took
>> photos.
>>
>> Lo and behold!! I have an old Piranha electronic ignition- it appears to
>> have been there for a long time, and I have had the car for 8 years.
>>
>> So my next step will be to source a new electronic ignition, or to go
>> back
>> to points as a cheaper option. Doing nothing is not an option, due to the
>> car cutting out at least once a day.
>>
>> Thanks once again.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Peter Mitchell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From lingfield51 at btopenworld.com Thu Jan 27 10:41:40 2011
From: lingfield51 at btopenworld.com (Partviking)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:41:40 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P4 Fuel Pipe
Message-ID: <136093.90180.qm@web86002.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
On the 'push' side of the pump on my 1959 90 the steel reinforced flexible tube
has a wide chamber in it just before it disappears through the boot floor. Whats
the reason for it? Some sort of pressure release/anti-fluctuation device.
The reason I asked is my flexible tube split and squirted petrol all over the
boot floor so I've had to rig up a temporary bit of rubber tube and jubille clip
arrangement until i can get it sorted properly and clearly this arrangement
won't have the 'wide' chamber in it.
Thanks
Alan (partviking)
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From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Thu Jan 27 10:56:33 2011
From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:56:33 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Digest, Vol 129, Issue 22
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> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:12:43 +0900
> From: "Dennis Gallacher" <den at aachenkennels.com>
> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Pertronix
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> As we are on the subject of distributors and ignition I would like to ask if anyone knows if Pertronix do a distributor for the Rover P2 1947 engine. Reading the recent post has made me wonder if something electronic would fit.
>
> Den Gallacher
>
Have you asked these guys at all. They rebuild Lucas dizzies. I am sending on of mine off to be done shortly.
http://www.advanceddistributors.com/
James.
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From peter_m at amnet.net.au Thu Jan 27 16:35:34 2011
From: peter_m at amnet.net.au (Peter Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:35:34 +0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] Ignition Module - Piranha - photos to follow
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Hi to all,
Thank you for the suggestion re photos - I will post some and advise....
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From den at aachenkennels.com Thu Jan 27 17:38:59 2011
From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:38:59 +0900
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Digest, Vol 129, Issue 22
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Thanks James, think I'll shoot them of an email.
BTW will you be over for the Rove in Queensland next year. If you are
better get in quick for accommodation as the local hotel are getting
booked now.
Den
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Sent: Friday, 28 January 2011 12:57 AM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:12:43 +0900
> From: "Dennis Gallacher" <den at aachenkennels.com>
> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Pertronix
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> As we are on the subject of distributors and ignition I would like to
ask if anyone knows if Pertronix do a distributor for the Rover P2 1947
engine. Reading the recent post has made me wonder if something
electronic would fit.
>
> Den Gallacher
>
Have you asked these guys at all. They rebuild Lucas dizzies. I am
sending on of mine off to be done shortly.
http://www.advanceddistributors.com/
James.
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From den at aachenkennels.com Thu Jan 27 21:03:29 2011
From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:03:29 +0900
Subject: [Rovernet ] FW: (no subject)
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Hello all,
I think I sent this in before but not sure so no harm in sending again.
If you can help let me know and I'll forward you the contact details.
From: RRogchaplin@
Sent: Monday, 24 January 2011 4:54 AM
To: Dennis Gallacher
Cc: rachel_
Subject: (no subject)
Hi Den
Got a mate who has acquired a wreck of a very early series 1 Landrover
to restore to origional, but he needs a new bulkhead and can only find
very overpriced tat over here. He'd heard there were some better bits
about in Aus, so I said I'd ask my Buddy who knows all things Rover in
that part of the world, any ideas?
Cheers
Rog
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From smokeandsteam at gmail.com Thu Jan 27 22:35:16 2011
From: smokeandsteam at gmail.com (Aidrian & Susie Bridgeman-Sutton)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:35:16 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] FW: (no subject)
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Dennis
I'm posting this to the list as the answer might interest some Roverists as well as Land-Roverists, so feel free to pass on as you see fit. Now all this is from memory so some details may be slightly off - it's a long time since I head my head in the workings of any really early Land-Rover, though I have close and recent experience with a truly tatty ex-army Series 3 FFR .
If it is truly an early S1 then the dash panel or bulkhead will almost certainly have to be patched rather than replaced if he wants to go back to original; early versions had a pressed steel dash panel, whereas later ones used a rather more squared-off looking fabricated unit. I believe this was because the original press tooling wore out towards the end of production and it wasn;lt considered worth the cost fo replacement with the Series II on the way.
To the best of my knowledge only the later pattern has ever been offered as a reproduction. If he is still determined to replace then please suggest that avoid any Britpart branded replacement panels if possible, as much of the production is apparently based in China with a Quality Control office somewhere in outer space; I speak from recent and unpleasant experience here. It might be worth contacting Dunsfold Land-Rover for Series One parts - they have a lot of stuff for these trucks which you cant get anywhere else
Hope this helps
Aidrian
On Jan 27, 2011, at 7:03 PM, Dennis Gallacher wrote:
> Got a mate who has acquired a wreck of a very early series 1 Landrover
> to restore to origional, but he needs a new bulkhead and can only find
> very overpriced tat over here. He'd heard there were some better bits
> about in Aus, so I said I'd ask my Buddy who knows all things Rover in
> that part of the world, any ideas?
>
From slatskars at comcast.net Fri Jan 28 00:20:35 2011
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:20:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Digest, Vol 129, Issue 22
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Jeff, at Advanceddistributors does know his stuff. He has a questionaire on his web site that requests information regarding your particular vehicle. Engine mods, etc. He will then re-build your distributor to the correct specs for today's poor excuse for fuel.
Slats
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From raymond.wilkins at bigpond.com Fri Jan 28 00:49:34 2011
From: raymond.wilkins at bigpond.com (Ray Wilkins)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:49:34 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P6B - Ignition Module - it is a Piranha
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Sorry I have taken a while to respond Peter but I had similar problems a
few years ago. I too have a Piranha electronic ignition in my P6B and
being in Melbourne I took the car to Piranha in Boronia (an outer suburb
of Melbourne) who sold me a refurbished (I don't believe they are
available new any more) unit for $75 (in 2005). They said that because
it was an intermittent fault, even putting it on the test bed might not
show the exact cause and for $75 the reco unit seemed a good idea. I
have have no trouble since. Their details are; Factory 4, 383 Dorset Rd,
Boronia 3155 03 9762 1200. Hope this helps.
Ray Wilkins
On 27/01/2011 11:44 PM, Peter Mitchell wrote:
> Hi to all, and thanks for the many contributions on the subject of the
> intermittent cutting-out of my V8's engine.
>
> After my auto electrician pointed out the little black box near the dip
> stick, mounted on the inside wheel arch, I cleaned the thing up and took
> photos.
>
> Lo and behold!! I have an old Piranha electronic ignition- it appears to
> have been there for a long time, and I have had the car for 8 years.
>
> So my next step will be to source a new electronic ignition, or to go back
> to points as a cheaper option. Doing nothing is not an option, due to the
> car cutting out at least once a day.
>
> Thanks once again.
>
> Cheers
>
> Peter Mitchell
>
>
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From bsaunders at firstva.com Fri Jan 28 07:14:04 2011
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:14:04 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P4 Fuel Pipe
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I have a 1959 and 1960 Rover 100's and neither of them have what you
describe in the fuel lines but they have most likely been replaced in the
past with your ordinary run of the mill fuel hose and steel tubing.
Ben
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Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:42 AM
To: Rovernet
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P4 Fuel Pipe
On the 'push' side of the pump on my 1959 90 the steel reinforced flexible
tube
has a wide chamber in it just before it disappears through the boot floor.
Whats
the reason for it? Some sort of pressure release/anti-fluctuation device.
The reason I asked is my flexible tube split and squirted petrol all over
the
boot floor so I've had to rig up a temporary bit of rubber tube and jubille
clip
arrangement until i can get it sorted properly and clearly this arrangement
won't have the 'wide' chamber in it.
Thanks
Alan (partviking)
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From gwlucas at granite.mb.ca Fri Jan 28 07:55:53 2011
From: gwlucas at granite.mb.ca (Glen Lucas)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 07:55:53 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P4 Fuel Pipe
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Hi,
My '60 P4 100 is pretty much "as it was made" and follows the parts manual
well. The fuel intake pipe on the tank is made up of a standard reinforced
approximately 2" rubber elbow section defined as "Rubber connection, tank to
filler". There is also an approximately 1/2" air vent tube which is a
reinforced rubber material originating on the steel portion of the tank
inlet itself, through the trunk floor and into the filler section of the
steel inlet pipe.
The concept must have been to be sure air being displaced from the tank
during re-filling got past the gas station nozzle. Remember, prior to
unleaded gas, the filler hose nozzle was much larger than they are now. I
suspect you could simply cap off the line now and get by.
You will, however, need to remove the spare tire carrier to see the top of
the fuel tank and the proximal ends of the pipes in discussion. That would
be a good time to check for rust on the tank and also check the reserve
valve's operation.
I have a parts manual which demonstrates the relationship of all these bits.
If you wish, I will scan the related pages and send them to you.
Regards,
Glen
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From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Ben Saunders
Sent: January 28, 2011 7:14 AM
To: 'Rovernet'
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Rover P4 Fuel Pipe
I have a 1959 and 1960 Rover 100's and neither of them have what you
describe in the fuel lines but they have most likely been replaced in the
past with your ordinary run of the mill fuel hose and steel tubing.
Ben
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From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Partviking
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:42 AM
To: Rovernet
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P4 Fuel Pipe
On the 'push' side of the pump on my 1959 90 the steel reinforced flexible
tube
has a wide chamber in it just before it disappears through the boot floor.
Whats
the reason for it? Some sort of pressure release/anti-fluctuation device.
The reason I asked is my flexible tube split and squirted petrol all over
the
boot floor so I've had to rig up a temporary bit of rubber tube and jubille
clip
arrangement until i can get it sorted properly and clearly this arrangement
won't have the 'wide' chamber in it.
Thanks
Alan (partviking)
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From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com Fri Jan 28 12:01:09 2011
From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:01:09 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P4 Fuel Pipe
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My 1955 90 also has this large diameter reinforced flex tube plumbed into the delivery line running from the fuel pump to the carb next to the pump outlet in the boot. It was also present in the fuel system of a 1958 105. I've wondered about its purpose too as unfortunately the requisite pages are missing from my copy of the parts manual. Some form of pressure regulator?
Rover P4's had some innovative thinking in them and I can only imagine some pipe-smoking slide rule expert thought it a good enough idea to convince the chief design engineer.
> From: gwlucas at granite.mb.ca
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 07:55:53 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Rover P4 Fuel Pipe
>
> Hi,
>
> My '60 P4 100 is pretty much "as it was made" and follows the parts manual
> well. The fuel intake pipe on the tank is made up of a standard reinforced
> approximately 2" rubber elbow section defined as "Rubber connection, tank to
> filler". There is also an approximately 1/2" air vent tube which is a
> reinforced rubber material originating on the steel portion of the tank
> inlet itself, through the trunk floor and into the filler section of the
> steel inlet pipe.
>
> The concept must have been to be sure air being displaced from the tank
> during re-filling got past the gas station nozzle. Remember, prior to
> unleaded gas, the filler hose nozzle was much larger than they are now. I
> suspect you could simply cap off the line now and get by.
>
> You will, however, need to remove the spare tire carrier to see the top of
> the fuel tank and the proximal ends of the pipes in discussion. That would
> be a good time to check for rust on the tank and also check the reserve
> valve's operation.
>
> I have a parts manual which demonstrates the relationship of all these bits.
> If you wish, I will scan the related pages and send them to you.
>
> Regards,
>
> Glen
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
> Behalf Of Ben Saunders
> Sent: January 28, 2011 7:14 AM
> To: 'Rovernet'
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Rover P4 Fuel Pipe
>
> I have a 1959 and 1960 Rover 100's and neither of them have what you
> describe in the fuel lines but they have most likely been replaced in the
> past with your ordinary run of the mill fuel hose and steel tubing.
>
> Ben
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
> Behalf Of Partviking
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:42 AM
> To: Rovernet
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P4 Fuel Pipe
>
> On the 'push' side of the pump on my 1959 90 the steel reinforced flexible
> tube
> has a wide chamber in it just before it disappears through the boot floor.
> Whats
> the reason for it? Some sort of pressure release/anti-fluctuation device.
>
> The reason I asked is my flexible tube split and squirted petrol all over
> the
> boot floor so I've had to rig up a temporary bit of rubber tube and jubille
> clip
> arrangement until i can get it sorted properly and clearly this arrangement
> won't have the 'wide' chamber in it.
>
> Thanks
>
> Alan (partviking)
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From lingfield51 at btopenworld.com Fri Jan 28 13:29:28 2011
From: lingfield51 at btopenworld.com (Partviking)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:29:28 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 fuel pipe
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Many thanks to Ben and Glen for their input. The pictures(link below) show the
pipe I am talking about. This pipe goes from the fuel pump to the first metal
elbow under the floor. From here it travels in metal tubing till it connects to
the glass sediment bowl in the engine bay. As can clearly be seen the pipe
starts at about 6mm dia and then enters a wide chamber before being reduced
again for its journey to the engine. So what is the purpose of the enlarged
chamber? My knowledge of fluid dynamics is limited to say the least! No doubt
many have been replaced but this was the original and I've seen many P4's with
it in place (or modern replacements that look the same)
Parts catalouge just calls it a flexible fuel pipe part no 502767 and this is
the same part no for 60, 75, 80, 90, 100 and 105 models.
Thanks
Alan (partviking)
http://s844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/partviking/?action=view¤t=fuelpipe001.jpg
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From bsaunders at firstva.com Fri Jan 28 13:49:30 2011
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:49:30 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 fuel pipe
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This is one on me. I have never seen this device and it does look like it
might be an inline filter. If I had to replace it here I would take it to a
shop in Charlottesville and have them salvage the ends and just replace the
line between them.
Ben
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From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Partviking
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 2:29 PM
To: Rovernet
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 fuel pipe
Many thanks to Ben and Glen for their input. The pictures(link below) show
the
pipe I am talking about. This pipe goes from the fuel pump to the first
metal
elbow under the floor. From here it travels in metal tubing till it connects
to
the glass sediment bowl in the engine bay. As can clearly be seen the pipe
starts at about 6mm dia and then enters a wide chamber before being reduced
again for its journey to the engine. So what is the purpose of the enlarged
chamber? My knowledge of fluid dynamics is limited to say the least! No
doubt
many have been replaced but this was the original and I've seen many P4's
with
it in place (or modern replacements that look the same)
Parts catalouge just calls it a flexible fuel pipe part no 502767 and this
is
the same part no for 60, 75, 80, 90, 100 and 105 models.
Thanks
Alan (partviking)
http://s844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/partviking/?action=view¤t=fuelp
ipe001.jpg
http://s844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/partviking/?action=view¤t=fuelp
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From dmaxwell at as.net Fri Jan 28 14:01:15 2011
From: dmaxwell at as.net (dmaxwell at as.net)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:01:15 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 fuel pipe
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Methinks this is fuel conditioner! Seen many adds on TV for a device
that straightens out the ions in the fuel to give you better mileage!
(ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha <snort> ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha)
David in Tehachapi
On Friday 01/28/2011 at 11:28, Partviking wrote:
> Many thanks to Ben and Glen for their input. The pictures(link below)
> show the
> pipe I am talking about. This pipe goes from the fuel pump to the
> first metal
> elbow under the floor. From here it travels in metal tubing till it
> connects to
> the glass sediment bowl in the engine bay. As can clearly be seen the
> pipe
> starts at about 6mm dia and then enters a wide chamber before being
> reduced
> again for its journey to the engine. So what is the purpose of the
> enlarged
> chamber? My knowledge of fluid dynamics is limited to say the least!
> No doubt
> many have been replaced but this was the original and I've seen many
> P4's with
> it in place (or modern replacements that look the same)
>
> Parts catalouge just calls it a flexible fuel pipe part no 502767 and
> this is
> the same part no for 60, 75, 80, 90, 100 and 105 models.
>
> Thanks
> Alan (partviking)
>
> http://s844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/partviking/?action=view¤t=fuelpipe001.jpg
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>
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From slatskars at comcast.net Fri Jan 28 16:58:07 2011
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 22:58:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 fuel pipe
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Later SU fuel pumps have chamber built into them that acts to smooth out the flow of fuel from the pulsing action. I wonder if this could serve a similar purpose. Like a water hammer eliminator in plumbing.
Slats
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From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com Sat Jan 29 00:29:54 2011
From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 06:29:54 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 fuel pipe
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References: <423367.444.qm@web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com>,
<177389212.2011813.1296255487276.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BLU157-w6E9AE7156832F5760A891B8E00@phx.gbl>
Yeah - that'd be my guess too. With a fully charged fuel line, output impulses from the pump might have been found to "water hammer" the valve in the carb float chamber causing it to flutter open and increase fuel consumption: this flex hose would have dampened this effect down until SU modified its pump design to smooth output flow pressure - maybe?
The P3 parts book shows something very similar but it's on the input side of the pump - which nixes the water hammer hypothesis in this instance.
> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 22:58:07 +0000
> From: slatskars at comcast.net
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P4 fuel pipe
>
>
>
> Later SU fuel pumps have chamber built into them that acts to smooth out the flow of fuel from the pulsing action. I wonder if this could serve a similar purpose. Like a water hammer eliminator in plumbing.
>
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From roger.matheson at bigpond.com Sat Jan 29 07:44:50 2011
From: roger.matheson at bigpond.com (roger matheson)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 00:44:50 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 fuel pipe
References: <423367.444.qm@web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003c01cbbfba$b3b50b80$0100000a@owner1b4c6f2cf>
Hi Alan,
Why not cut it open and see what mysteries lie within. One mystery may
solve another.
Your links to pictures for the fule pipe also contained pictures of the Bray
engine heater that appeared to connect to the water jacket side plate
(drivers side) of the P6 2000 engine. The pictures show that this device
had a heater element that screwed into the internally threaded 1 1/4 pipe
welded into the side plate.
Just recently, the plug (that normally blinds this fitting off) sprung a
serious leak on my 2000 TC. It was so bad I had to get a tow home.
Fortunately I was only 4 Km away and very fortunately it had not occurred on
a recent long trip. I could not remove the plug in situ no matter what I
tried (and threatened). I was forced to remove the whole plate which is of
course a very time consuming job involving removing the side engine mounting
etc etc. On the bench I could still not remove the plug and had to cut it
out, partially destroying it. This made counting the threads per inch very
difficult and therefore determining the correct thread almost impossible.
Fortunately, a parts engine had a cast iron plumbing plug screwed in and I
used this to make a termporary repair. When I went to buy a new plug from a
plumbing suppliers, they described this item as an "inch BSP plug". But
then a mystery. Both the old and new plug would only screw in two turns to
the side plate even though it could only have been BSP. Clever work by my
friendly engineering company revealed that the standard BSP plug from the
plumbing suppliers ($3 Aus) is tappered. In addition they found that the
pipe in the side plate was also tappered but at a different rate to the
plug. Your picture of this taper on the heater element is clear to the eye.
They ran a BSP tap through the pipe and a die over the plug, removing tiny
amounts of metal and presto perfect fit. I had always wondered what this
pipe and plug fitting was for and why the plugs are so hard (impossible) to
remove. I had thought that it may have been some type of sacrificial
corrosion device, but in my experience, side plates always rusted elsewhere.
I love the idea of plugging in the old jug cord. So one mystery solved.
Back to yours. I haven't had P4's for ages, but if my memory is corrrect
the pulsing action the pump would only be fully apparent when the fuel bowls
were empty. When full and the engine running the "click over" ran slower
and according to fuel demand and that the spring behind the diaphram
maintained the pressure. I can't see your mystery attenuating pulses. My
"2 bob" would be an early filter. However such a fitting would normally be
servicable and on the supply side. Perhaps a one way valve? Perhaps it is
meant to fit in the hole in the boot floor providing protection from
vibration for the fuel pipe?
Cheers Roger from NSW Oz
----- Original Message -----
From: "Partviking" <lingfield51 at btopenworld.com>
To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 6:29 AM
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 fuel pipe
> Many thanks to Ben and Glen for their input. The pictures(link below) show
> the
> pipe I am talking about. This pipe goes from the fuel pump to the first
> metal
> elbow under the floor. From here it travels in metal tubing till it
> connects to
> the glass sediment bowl in the engine bay. As can clearly be seen the pipe
> starts at about 6mm dia and then enters a wide chamber before being
> reduced
> again for its journey to the engine. So what is the purpose of the
> enlarged
> chamber? My knowledge of fluid dynamics is limited to say the least! No
> doubt
> many have been replaced but this was the original and I've seen many P4's
> with
> it in place (or modern replacements that look the same)
>
> Parts catalouge just calls it a flexible fuel pipe part no 502767 and this
> is
> the same part no for 60, 75, 80, 90, 100 and 105 models.
>
> Thanks
> Alan (partviking)
>
> http://s844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/partviking/?action=view¤t=fuelpipe001.jpg
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From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com Sat Jan 29 16:18:32 2011
From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:18:32 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 fuel pipe
In-Reply-To: <BLU157-w6E9AE7156832F5760A891B8E00@phx.gbl>
References: <423367.444.qm@web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com>, ,
<177389212.2011813.1296255487276.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
<BLU157-w6E9AE7156832F5760A891B8E00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU157-w28ACA04B4F48572258B819B8E00@phx.gbl>
The mystery may be solved. Rover service letter No 25 of 1954 states:
"One or two cases have been reported of a metallic knock being transmitted through the petrol pipe line from the pump. This knock may be eliminated by fitting Flexible petrol pipe, Part No 246826 between the pump outlet and the elbow of the main petrol pipe. One pipe clip, Part No 233278 and one drive screw, Part No 72626 are also required for fixing the petrol pipe to the rear of the chassis side member."
Service letter applies to "60", "75" and "90".
There you are - what a wonderful blend of the technically prosaic and the customer responsive. [Love the euphemistic "one or two cases" as a trigger for a design and production engineering change!]
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From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com Sat Jan 29 16:31:26 2011
From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:31:26 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 fuel pipe
In-Reply-To: <BLU157-w28ACA04B4F48572258B819B8E00@phx.gbl>
References: <423367.444.qm@web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com>, , ,
<177389212.2011813.1296255487276.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
, <BLU157-w6E9AE7156832F5760A891B8E00@phx.gbl>,
<BLU157-w28ACA04B4F48572258B819B8E00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU157-w10800A63A2C1C86E628F27B8E00@phx.gbl>
It gets better. Rover Service letter 296 of 1957 reveals in relation to "75" and "90" models thus:
Flexible petrol pipe 268972. This flexible petrol pipe, which incorporates an air bottle, was introduced in order to ensure a full flow of fuel at sustained high speeds. It replaces flexible petrol pipe, part number 246826, previously fitted. Due to an unauthorised change of design by the manufacturers, the pipe which descends to the bottle and which should be of one-piece bundy tubing, was in actual fact made in two pieces joined by a neoprene sleeve. It has come to our attention that these sleeves can swell and allow the bottom pipe and sleeve to drop to the bottom of the bottle. This in turn can cause partial blockage of the outlet with consequent fuel starvation.In the event of complaints being made of faulty petrol pump [sic], burnt-out plugs or fuel starvation, therefore, this flexible pipe may well be found to be the cause and must be checked before anything else. It can be checked by removing and shaking it, for if it is faulty, a rattle will be heard. Etc. etc."
So the mysterious pipe is both a fuel pump sound deadener and a compensator that comes into effect when a P4 is driven hard and the fuel pump is struggling to cope with demand.
> From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:18:32 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P4 fuel pipe
>
>
>
> The mystery may be solved. Rover service letter No 25 of 1954 states:
> "One or two cases have been reported of a metallic knock being transmitted through the petrol pipe line from the pump. This knock may be eliminated by fitting Flexible petrol pipe, Part No 246826 between the pump outlet and the elbow of the main petrol pipe. One pipe clip, Part No 233278 and one drive screw, Part No 72626 are also required for fixing the petrol pipe to the rear of the chassis side member."
> Service letter applies to "60", "75" and "90".
> There you are - what a wonderful blend of the technically prosaic and the customer responsive. [Love the euphemistic "one or two cases" as a trigger for a design and production engineering change!]
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From lingfield51 at btopenworld.com Sun Jan 30 04:19:49 2011
From: lingfield51 at btopenworld.com (Partviking)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 10:19:49 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 fuel pipe
In-Reply-To: <BLU157-w10800A63A2C1C86E628F27B8E00@phx.gbl>
References: <423367.444.qm@web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com>, , ,
<177389212.2011813.1296255487276.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
, <BLU157-w6E9AE7156832F5760A891B8E00@phx.gbl>,
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<BLU157-w10800A63A2C1C86E628F27B8E00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <392212.18060.qm@web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Many thanks to all who have contributed to this thread and Richard in particular
who seems to have found the answer. The main reason for my asking was that as my
pipe is now u/s I have rigged up a rubber hose and jubilee clip arangement to
enable the car to be started and moved. However, this normally reliable car
which I've owned for 9 years and has always started first time and run without
drama has suddenly decided to struggle to start (often only on 2 or 3 cylinders
at first) then die after ticking over perfectly well for 5 mins or so. Once dead
it then struggles to start again. It hadn't been started for 4-5 months but
usually this presents no problems. I suspect it's electrics and pure coincidence
that I had done the fuel pipe repair at the same time but wanted to be sure my
'bodge' wasn't part of the problem. I've now replaced the condensor but didn't
get a chance to check it out for a period of time so off to the garage today to
do just that.
Thanks for the input
Regards
Alan (partviking)
________________________________
From: Richard Sharpe <trowzerkoff at hotmail.com>
To: rover net <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Saturday, 29 January, 2011 22:31:26
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P4 fuel pipe
It gets better. Rover Service letter 296 of 1957 reveals in relation to "75" and
"90" models thus:
Flexible petrol pipe 268972. This flexible petrol pipe, which incorporates an
air bottle, was introduced in order to ensure a full flow of fuel at sustained
high speeds. It replaces flexible petrol pipe, part number 246826, previously
fitted. Due to an unauthorised change of design by the manufacturers, the pipe
which descends to the bottle and which should be of one-piece bundy tubing, was
in actual fact made in two pieces joined by a neoprene sleeve. It has come to
our attention that these sleeves can swell and allow the bottom pipe and sleeve
to drop to the bottom of the bottle. This in turn can cause partial blockage of
the outlet with consequent fuel starvation.In the event of complaints being made
of faulty petrol pump [sic], burnt-out plugs or fuel starvation, therefore, this
flexible pipe may well be found to be the cause and must be checked before
anything else. It can be checked by removing and shaking it, for if it is
faulty, a rattle will be heard. Etc. etc."
So the mysterious pipe is both a fuel pump sound deadener and a compensator that
comes into effect when a P4 is driven hard and the fuel pump is struggling to
cope with demand.
> From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:18:32 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P4 fuel pipe
>
>
>
> The mystery may be solved. Rover service letter No 25 of 1954 states:
> "One or two cases have been reported of a metallic knock being transmitted
>through the petrol pipe line from the pump. This knock may be eliminated by
>fitting Flexible petrol pipe, Part No 246826 between the pump outlet and the
>elbow of the main petrol pipe. One pipe clip, Part No 233278 and one drive
>screw, Part No 72626 are also required for fixing the petrol pipe to the rear of
>the chassis side member."
> Service letter applies to "60", "75" and "90".
> There you are - what a wonderful blend of the technically prosaic and the
>customer responsive. [Love the euphemistic "one or two cases" as a trigger for
>a design and production engineering change!]
>
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From slatskars at comcast.net Sun Jan 30 07:24:41 2011
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 13:24:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 fuel pipe
In-Reply-To: <392212.18060.qm@web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <837079135.1225.1296393881436.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Dirt in the fuel system (filter, carb, float bowl) from the repair?
Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "Partviking" <lingfield51 at btopenworld.com>
To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 2:19:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P4 fuel pipe
Many thanks to all who have contributed to this thread and Richard in particular
who seems to have found the answer. The main reason for my asking was that as my
pipe is now u/s I have rigged up a rubber hose and jubilee clip arangement to
enable the car to be started and moved. However, this normally reliable car
which I've owned for 9 years and has always started first time and run without
drama has suddenly decided to struggle to start (often only on 2 or 3 cylinders
at first) then die after ticking over perfectly well for 5 mins or so. Once dead
it then struggles to start again. It hadn't been started for 4-5 months but
usually this presents no problems. I suspect it's electrics and pure coincidence
that I had done the fuel pipe repair at the same time but wanted to be sure my
'bodge' wasn't part of the problem. ?I've now replaced the condensor but didn't
get a chance to check it out for a period of time so off to the garage today to
do just that.
Thanks for the input
Regards
Alan (partviking)
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From lingfield51 at btopenworld.com Sun Jan 30 10:58:19 2011
From: lingfield51 at btopenworld.com (Partviking)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 16:58:19 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 fuel pipe
In-Reply-To: <837079135.1225.1296393881436.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <837079135.1225.1296393881436.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <718049.42552.qm@web86002.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Yes it may have been Slats. I cleaned the plugs today and topped up the dashpot
oil (which was very low) and so far all seems ok. Did a 4 mile drive without
fault and restarted half hour later without a hiccup. Perhaps it was the
condensor perhaps her way of expressing disgust as I have a 40,000 mile P4 100
arriving next Saturday (30 years in storage and needing work) and I've been
toying with the idea of selling the 90. This is much to my wifes disgust who has
come out firmly in support of 'Aunty' and sees any attempt to userp her position
in favour of another car as an act of betrayl.
Regards
Alan (partviking)
________________________________
From: "slatskars at comcast.net" <slatskars at comcast.net>
To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sunday, 30 January, 2011 13:24:41
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P4 fuel pipe
Dirt in the fuel system (filter, carb, float bowl) from the repair?
Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "Partviking" <lingfield51 at btopenworld.com>
To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 2:19:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P4 fuel pipe
Many thanks to all who have contributed to this thread and Richard in particular
who seems to have found the answer. The main reason for my asking was that as my
pipe is now u/s I have rigged up a rubber hose and jubilee clip arangement to
enable the car to be started and moved. However, this normally reliable car
which I've owned for 9 years and has always started first time and run without
drama has suddenly decided to struggle to start (often only on 2 or 3 cylinders
at first) then die after ticking over perfectly well for 5 mins or so. Once dead
it then struggles to start again. It hadn't been started for 4-5 months but
usually this presents no problems. I suspect it's electrics and pure coincidence
that I had done the fuel pipe repair at the same time but wanted to be sure my
'bodge' wasn't part of the problem. I've now replaced the condensor but didn't
get a chance to check it out for a period of time so off to the garage today to
do just that.
Thanks for the input
Regards
Alan (partviking)
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From slatskars at comcast.net Sun Jan 30 13:06:50 2011
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 19:06:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 fuel pipe
In-Reply-To: <718049.42552.qm@web86002.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <595233853.11501.1296414410750.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Alan,
Be careful about parking them in the same garage, they may breed. It happened with my MG's, I now have five.
Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "Partviking" <lingfield51 at btopenworld.com>
To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 8:58:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P4 fuel pipe
Yes it may have been Slats. I cleaned the plugs today and topped up the dashpot
oil (which was very low) and so far all seems ok. Did a 4 mile drive without
fault and restarted half hour later without a hiccup. Perhaps it was the
condensor perhaps her way of expressing disgust as I have a 40,000 mile P4 100
arriving next Saturday (30 years in storage and needing work) and I've been
toying with the idea of selling the 90. This is much to my wifes disgust who has
come out firmly in support of 'Aunty' and sees any attempt to userp her position
in favour of another car as an act of betrayl.
Regards
Alan (partviking)
________________________________
From: "slatskars at comcast.net" <slatskars at comcast.net>
To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sunday, 30 January, 2011 13:24:41
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P4 fuel pipe
Dirt in the fuel system (filter, carb, float bowl) from the repair?
Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "Partviking" <lingfield51 at btopenworld.com>
To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 2:19:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P4 fuel pipe
Many thanks to all who have contributed to this thread and Richard in particular
who seems to have found the answer. The main reason for my asking was that as my
pipe is now u/s I have rigged up a rubber hose and jubilee clip arangement to
enable the car to be started and moved. However, this normally reliable car
which I've owned for 9 years and has always started first time and run without
drama has suddenly decided to struggle to start (often only on 2 or 3 cylinders
at first) then die after ticking over perfectly well for 5 mins or so. Once dead
it then struggles to start again. It hadn't been started for 4-5 months but
usually this presents no problems. I suspect it's electrics and pure coincidence
that I had done the fuel pipe repair at the same time but wanted to be sure my
'bodge' wasn't part of the problem. ?I've now replaced the condensor but didn't
get a chance to check it out for a period of time so off to the garage today to
do just that.
Thanks for the input
Regards
Alan (partviking)
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From mp349 at xtra.co.nz Sun Jan 30 15:28:43 2011
From: mp349 at xtra.co.nz (Michael Pellow)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:28:43 +1300
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 fuel pipe
In-Reply-To: <595233853.11501.1296414410750.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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On 31/01/2011 8:06 a.m., slatskars at comcast.net wrote:
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> Alan,
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> Be careful about parking them in the same garage, they may breed. It happened with my MG's, I now have five.
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> Slats
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Partviking"<lingfield51 at btopenworld.com>
> To: "Rovernet"<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 8:58:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P4 fuel pipe
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> Yes it may have been Slats. I cleaned the plugs today and topped up the dashpot
> oil (which was very low) and so far all seems ok. Did a 4 mile drive without
> fault and restarted half hour later without a hiccup. Perhaps it was the
> condensor perhaps her way of expressing disgust as I have a 40,000 mile P4 100
> arriving next Saturday (30 years in storage and needing work) and I've been
> toying with the idea of selling the 90. This is much to my wifes disgust who has
> come out firmly in support of 'Aunty' and sees any attempt to userp her position
> in favour of another car as an act of betrayl.
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> Regards
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> Alan (partviking)
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> From: "slatskars at comcast.net"<slatskars at comcast.net>
> To: Rovernet<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, 30 January, 2011 13:24:41
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P4 fuel pipe
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> Dirt in the fuel system (filter, carb, float bowl) from the repair?
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> Slats
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Partviking"<lingfield51 at btopenworld.com>
> To: "Rovernet"<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 2:19:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P4 fuel pipe
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> Many thanks to all who have contributed to this thread and Richard in particular
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> who seems to have found the answer. The main reason for my asking was that as my
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> pipe is now u/s I have rigged up a rubber hose and jubilee clip arangement to
> enable the car to be started and moved. However, this normally reliable car
> which I've owned for 9 years and has always started first time and run without
> drama has suddenly decided to struggle to start (often only on 2 or 3 cylinders
> at first) then die after ticking over perfectly well for 5 mins or so. Once dead
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> it then struggles to start again. It hadn't been started for 4-5 months but
> usually this presents no problems. I suspect it's electrics and pure coincidence
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> that I had done the fuel pipe repair at the same time but wanted to be sure my
> 'bodge' wasn't part of the problem. I've now replaced the condensor but didn't
> get a chance to check it out for a period of time so off to the garage today to
> do just that.
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> Thanks for the input
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> Regards
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> Alan (partviking)
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Dam!! is that what causes it.
I now have 22 in various states of disrepair
I wish I had know sooner,I thought it was a form of incurable lunacy
From roverfreak619 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 31 22:22:47 2011
From: roverfreak619 at yahoo.com (Rover freak)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:22:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 on Ebay for sell
Message-ID: <629474.9132.qm@web111310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
item number # 260730831735 on ebay for sell a P6 Rover sc2000 with a manual
transmission. 1966
Other Makes : p6 rover
Current price: $200.00
End time: Feb-07-11 20:01:27 PST
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From scottsoldautorubber at bigpond.com.au Mon Jan 31 22:40:50 2011
From: scottsoldautorubber at bigpond.com.au (Scott Richmond)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 15:40:50 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 on Ebay for sell
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Message-ID: <88501B2837C44FEE88F5E5698B08BD95@userpc>
There is also a RH side 3.5 P5B exhaust manifold, a 3 litre 3.5 front bumper
bar and 2 rear wooden door capping off a Coupe in really great condition.
Anyone need the item numbers just email me.
Thankyou,
Scott.
New email address: scott at scottsoldautorubber.com.au
New postal address: P.O. Box 105, Mount Waverley 3149
www.scottsoldautorubber.com.au
Open 9 - 5.00 Monday to Friday.
Closed Saturday and Sunday.
Automotive Rubber and Seals for Many Makes and Models,
12 Haughton Road, Oakleigh, Melbourne 3166, Australia.
Phone and Fax: + 61- 3 - 9563 3023
http://www.xe.net/pca/ (Currency Converter)
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From: "Rover freak" <roverfreak619 at yahoo.com>
To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:22 PM
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 on Ebay for sell
> item number # 260730831735 on ebay for sell a P6 Rover sc2000 with a
> manual
> transmission. 1966
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> Other Makes : p6 rover
> Current price: $200.00
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