>
From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com  Tue Jun  1 03:22:39 2010
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 10:22:39 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] R:  R:  Triumph Stag / Rover 3.5 conversion
References: <p06200740c823681ed78a@[192.168.0.2]>	<898494.22184.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<450106hlc4solihsq6e7crb4v3ce4btjqk@4ax.com>	<4C01004B.2070705@att.net><ud3206t82bs73qvboionh13i7jh8o62rus@4ax.com><4C011562.7060508@att.net><rg64069j5ke57n2npl7qejbpi7ja8u6p8a@4ax.com>	<66670F6D33FB4AE996B052895487D13D@rw>	<39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959608B38C@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel>	<4C03ACA3.1050105@att.net><4C03BD94.2030905@comcast.net><BLU0-SMTP961E81EF78C0A94843E01DB0EF0@phx.gbl>
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Dear friends,

I'd like to import such a car in Italy, with a Triumph engine or with a rover one, but the second case could be very difficult because to enroll the car here and to have italian number plates you must take and pass a kind af examination based on a techincal data sheet and conditions of the vehicole, and if the engine is not original it would be difficult.

Now, thanks again: this is a motoring history lesson.

I could translate it and foreward to the friends of registro italiano rover.

Best regardfs and thanks again, Gianluca.

-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Kent Kinard
Inviato: marted? 1 giugno 2010 6.11
A: The original Rovernet ...
Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet ] R: Triumph Stag / Rover 3.5 conversion

Steven and Glen,

Steven Dibdin wrote:
> I'm with Glen on this one. I know or a fact that Stags in the UK are
> worth considerably less if they have had the Rover conversion.
Yes, fitting the Rover engine destroys originality.
>
> To add to Glen's statement yes there are dramatically improved engines
> out there now. I believe that there are improved cylinder heads
> available from millenium engineering. They have better cooling
> galleries and many other improvements.
You can build two Rover V8's for what it costs to build a good Stag V8, though.
>
> Like a lot of BL products they were badly harmed by the guys who were
> meant build them also sabotaged then. So sand left in the blocks after
> casting, poor assembly etc.
True.
>
> The engine was an all alloy 3 litre V8. It was based on the slant four
> fitted to the Dolomite 1800 and the TR7 it had some issues but was
> basically a sound design (I had two UK spec TR7s in a previous life).
> I seem to remember that it was at one time the smallest production V8
> available.
The Stag engine is not all alloy. It has a cast iron block as does the slant four. The Stag V8 weighs considerably more than the Rover V8 while the slant four and the Rover V8 are comparable in weight.

>
> There was a lot of argument about why a Rover V8 wasn't used for the
> stag. Some said that it was because Triumph engineers wanted to make
> sure that it wasn't stained with a rover engine. But an interview
> with, I think, Spen King (who designed the slant four engine that the
> triumph V8 was based on) Mr King stated that Rover V8 production was
> already Maxed out before the stag was produced. Not sure I believe
> that but an interesting point.
Spen King did not design the Triumph engine. He did not move to Triumph
from Rover until the spring of 1968 by which time the slant four was
already in production and the specification for the Stag V8 was nearly
final. King did insist that the V8 be taken out to three litres.

The Stag V8 was under development and in the pipeline long before the BL
merger. Lewis Dawtrey's proposal for the Triumph V8 and related slant 4
was approved in 1963, predating the Rover V8 by several years. The V8
was actually designed first and the four resulted from cutting down the
V8 design. Triumph received inquiries from Saab for the four cylinder
version before the first engine was even built (Riccardo had contracts
with both companies and arranged for them to get together. Saab had
their own very similar engine running when they learned of the Triumph
engine from Riccardo. Saab abandoned their engine in favor of the
Triumph four.). Because Triumph received a contract from Saab to produce
the slant 4, the four went into production first. The initial engines
running in 1965. Since the four and V8 blocks were to be machined on the
same transfer tooling, it made some sense to proceed with the Triumph V8
even after the Rover engine became a possibility. Initial plans for the
Stag V8 called for 2.5 litre capacity, but torque output at that
displacement was too low. Design parameters (bore spacing and crankcase
space) allowed future V8 displacements up to 4 litres. There was at
least one Triumph 2000/2500 shell built with the 3 litre Stag V8 for
"executive" use.

The Rover engine is not an easy fit in the Stag engine bay, the exhaust
headers being very restrictive and the Rover engine with twin SU's is
too tall.

The Rover engine has also been fitted successfully to the Dolomite body.

It is true that Rover V8 production was maxed out. Rover was selling
every one they could build in P5B's and P6B's. The Range Rover was under
development as was the P8 and both would require V8 engines. The
combination of engineering changes to the Stag necessary to fit the
Rover engine to the Stag and the ability to machine the Triumph V8 on
existing tooling (though some changes were required) plus the limited
engine production capacity at Rover, meant that cancelling the Triumph
V8 was never seriously considered.

The same circumstances delayed TR8 production by two to four years.
Rover introduced the SD1 in 1976 and TR8 prototypes were on the road in
1974 with some being sent to the US in 1978, but the popularity of the
SD1 and the Range Rover and limited engine production capacity kept the
TR8 from ever achieving full production. MGB-V8 production suffered from
the same lack of engine production capacity. Rover got the engines
because markup on their high end models made for better profits for BL.
>
> That's my shillings worth.

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From kkinard at att.net  Tue Jun  1 07:43:40 2010
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 07:43:40 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] OT: Stag head repair
Message-ID: <4C05007C.6020907@att.net>

AROnline has an article about Stag head repairs done by Total Flow
Products in Troy, Michigan.  The article includes some other advice

"There is a substitute for cubic inches...it's cubic money."

Roverly,
Kent K.

From sdibdin at hotmail.com  Tue Jun  1 08:20:44 2010
From: sdibdin at hotmail.com (Steven Dibdin)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 09:20:44 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] OT: Stag head repair
References: <4C05007C.6020907@att.net>

Hi Kent

Thanks for setting the record straight last night. I suppose my mind
is more sieve like than I care to admit. I certainly didn't know about
the V8 being first. I did know about Saab taking on the design for the
99 and 900 models though. Altgough being Swedish they turned it
backwards.

Cheers,

Steven

On Jun 1, 2010, at 8:43 AM, Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> wrote:

> AROnline has an article about Stag head repairs done by Total Flow
> Products in Troy, Michigan.  The article includes some other advice
>
> "There is a substitute for cubic inches...it's cubic money."
>
> Roverly,
> Kent K.
>
> Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>

From sdibdin at hotmail.com  Thu Jun  3 21:32:33 2010
From: sdibdin at hotmail.com (Steven Dibdin)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 22:32:33 -0400
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Well I have comprehesively killed 2000TC with aid of a slipped foot a
tree and 15 mph. I am fine albeit with a painful chest. But I fear
Rolly's base unit is twisted so badly that the front passenger door is
jammed shut. The gearbox is jammed in first and the front screen is

I am feeling very sorry for myself right now not to mention that I'm
feeling stupid.

Cheers all for all your help and advice over the last five years of
Rover ownership. I wouldn't have been able to do this with everyones
help and encouragement.

Kind regards,

Steven Dibdin

From vmitps at netspace.net.au  Thu Jun  3 21:40:09 2010
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:40:09 +1000
References: <p06200740c823681ed78a@[192.168.0.2]>	<898494.22184.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<450106hlc4solihsq6e7crb4v3ce4btjqk@4ax.com>	<4C01004B.2070705@att.net><ud3206t82bs73qvboionh13i7jh8o62rus@4ax.com><4C011562.7060508@att.net><rg64069j5ke57n2npl7qejbpi7ja8u6p8a@4ax.com>	<66670F6D33FB4AE996B052895487D13D@rw><39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959608B38C@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel><4C03ACA3.1050105@att.net>
<BLU0-SMTP5832E7F4E7BFE56234285FB0D20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <474C2BCA0D6541089A78E0C413B138D7@Vista>

15mph shouldn't wreck the base unit.
now because I have muscle control issues on my right side.
Screen is obtainable new.
It is likely the front section of the base unit is bent, but that is
fixable.
Post photos of engine bay, engine mounts, front damage, front spring mounts.
I reckon there will be a few spares out there...

PVS

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Dibdin" <sdibdin at hotmail.com>
To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 12:32 PM

> Well I have comprehesively killed 2000TC with aid of a slipped foot a
> tree and 15 mph. I am fine albeit with a painful chest. But I fear
> Rolly's base unit is twisted so badly that the front passenger door is
> jammed shut. The gearbox is jammed in first and the front screen is  badly
> cracked.
>
> I am feeling very sorry for myself right now not to mention that I'm
> feeling stupid.
>
> Cheers all for all your help and advice over the last five years of  Rover
> ownership. I wouldn't have been able to do this with everyones  help and
> encouragement.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Steven Dibdin
>
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca

From ilcommodor at aol.com  Thu Jun  3 21:47:39 2010
From: ilcommodor at aol.com (ilcommodor at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 02:47:39 +0000
References: <p06200740c823681ed78a@[192.168.0.2]>	<898494.22184.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<450106hlc4solihsq6e7crb4v3ce4btjqk@4ax.com>	<4C01004B.2070705@att.net><ud3206t82bs73qvboionh13i7jh8o62rus@4ax.com><4C011562.7060508@att.net><rg64069j5ke57n2npl7qejbpi7ja8u6p8a@4ax.com>	<66670F6D33FB4AE996B052895487D13D@rw><39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959608B38C@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel><4C03ACA3.1050105@att.net><BLU0-SMTP5832E7F4E7BFE56234285FB0D20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1264505527-1275619660-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-199573812-@bda819.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Man up Steve and put out the word for your next Rover.

Jamie
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Dibdin <sdibdin at hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 22:32:33
To: The original Rovernet ...<rovernet at rovernet.ca>

Well I have comprehesively killed 2000TC with aid of a slipped foot a
tree and 15 mph. I am fine albeit with a painful chest. But I fear
Rolly's base unit is twisted so badly that the front passenger door is
jammed shut. The gearbox is jammed in first and the front screen is

I am feeling very sorry for myself right now not to mention that I'm
feeling stupid.

Cheers all for all your help and advice over the last five years of
Rover ownership. I wouldn't have been able to do this with everyones
help and encouragement.

Kind regards,

Steven Dibdin

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From kkinard at att.net  Thu Jun  3 21:52:28 2010
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 21:52:28 -0500
References: <p06200740c823681ed78a@[192.168.0.2]>	<898494.22184.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<450106hlc4solihsq6e7crb4v3ce4btjqk@4ax.com>	<4C01004B.2070705@att.net><ud3206t82bs73qvboionh13i7jh8o62rus@4ax.com><4C011562.7060508@att.net><rg64069j5ke57n2npl7qejbpi7ja8u6p8a@4ax.com>	<66670F6D33FB4AE996B052895487D13D@rw><39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959608B38C@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel><4C03ACA3.1050105@att.net>	<BLU0-SMTP5832E7F4E7BFE56234285FB0D20@phx.gbl>
<474C2BCA0D6541089A78E0C413B138D7@Vista>
Message-ID: <4C086A6C.4080405@att.net>

Hi Steve,
Sorry to hear of your accident. I can supply another base unit with
screen and other parts as necessary. Email off list to discuss.

Rovereplacemently,
Kent K.

Netspace wrote:
> 15mph shouldn't wreck the base unit.
> automatics now because I have muscle control issues on my right side.
> Screen is obtainable new.
> It is likely the front section of the base unit is bent, but that is
> fixable.
> Post photos of engine bay, engine mounts, front damage, front spring
> mounts. I reckon there will be a few spares out there...
>
> PVS
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Dibdin" <sdibdin at hotmail.com>
> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 12:32 PM
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Sad news
>
>
>> Well I have comprehesively killed 2000TC with aid of a slipped foot a
>> tree and 15 mph. I am fine albeit with a painful chest. But I fear
>> Rolly's base unit is twisted so badly that the front passenger door
>> is jammed shut. The gearbox is jammed in first and the front screen
>>
>> I am feeling very sorry for myself right now not to mention that I'm
>> feeling stupid.
>>
>> Cheers all for all your help and advice over the last five years of
>> Rover ownership. I wouldn't have been able to do this with everyones
>> help and encouragement.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Steven Dibdin
>>
>> Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
>
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>

From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu  Thu Jun  3 21:54:58 2010
From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell)
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 22:54:58 -0400
References: <p06200740c823681ed78a@[192.168.0.2]>	<898494.22184.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<450106hlc4solihsq6e7crb4v3ce4btjqk@4ax.com>	<4C01004B.2070705@att.net><ud3206t82bs73qvboionh13i7jh8o62rus@4ax.com><4C011562.7060508@att.net><rg64069j5ke57n2npl7qejbpi7ja8u6p8a@4ax.com>	<66670F6D33FB4AE996B052895487D13D@rw>	<39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959608B38C@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel>	<4C03ACA3.1050105@att.net>
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Message-ID: <4C086B02.5010200@alum.swarthmore.edu>

Steven

Glad that you're OK!  Meanwhile, I'm sure that parts can be found to
repair your car or that another car with good base unit can be found to
transfer your running gear into.  Come on up to Rove America later this
month for a re-charge of enthusiasm; maybe you'll find Rolly II as well ...

--Steve Manwell

On 6/3/2010 10:32 PM, Steven Dibdin wrote:
> Well I have comprehesively killed 2000TC with aid of a slipped foot a
> tree and 15 mph. I am fine albeit with a painful chest. But I fear
> Rolly's base unit is twisted so badly that the front passenger door is
> jammed shut. The gearbox is jammed in first and the front screen is
>
> I am feeling very sorry for myself right now not to mention that I'm
> feeling stupid.
>
> Cheers all for all your help and advice over the last five years of
> Rover ownership. I wouldn't have been able to do this with everyones
> help and encouragement.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Steven Dibdin
>
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
>

From jaguru at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun  3 21:59:37 2010
From: jaguru at bellsouth.net (James Dean)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 22:59:37 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Windscreen
References: <p06200740c823681ed78a@[192.168.0.2]>	<898494.22184.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<450106hlc4solihsq6e7crb4v3ce4btjqk@4ax.com>	<4C01004B.2070705@att.net><ud3206t82bs73qvboionh13i7jh8o62rus@4ax.com><4C011562.7060508@att.net><rg64069j5ke57n2npl7qejbpi7ja8u6p8a@4ax.com>	<66670F6D33FB4AE996B052895487D13D@rw><39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959608B38C@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel><4C03ACA3.1050105@att.net><BLU0-SMTP5832E7F4E7BFE56234285FB0D20@phx.gbl>
<474C2BCA0D6541089A78E0C413B138D7@Vista>
Message-ID: <0926AF2843614E0DA01943A2231291BD@JamesDeanPC1>

Speaking of windscreens, I know someone in Europe looking for a new Tinted
P6 front windscreen. Does anyone know a source in the US, and/or in
Europe/England? Thank you, James Dean
----- Original Message -----
From: "Netspace" <vmitps at netspace.net.au>
To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Sad news

> 15mph shouldn't wreck the base unit.
> Bad to hear of smash, I nearly had a bad one in 2002.  I prefer automatics
> now because I have muscle control issues on my right side.
> Screen is obtainable new.
> It is likely the front section of the base unit is bent, but that is
> fixable.
> Post photos of engine bay, engine mounts, front damage, front spring
> mounts. I reckon there will be a few spares out there...
>
> PVS
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steven Dibdin" <sdibdin at hotmail.com>
> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 12:32 PM
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Sad news
>
>
>> Well I have comprehesively killed 2000TC with aid of a slipped foot a
>> tree and 15 mph. I am fine albeit with a painful chest. But I fear
>> Rolly's base unit is twisted so badly that the front passenger door is
>> jammed shut. The gearbox is jammed in first and the front screen is
>>
>> I am feeling very sorry for myself right now not to mention that I'm
>> feeling stupid.
>>
>> Cheers all for all your help and advice over the last five years of
>> Rover ownership. I wouldn't have been able to do this with everyones
>> help and encouragement.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Steven Dibdin
>>
>> sure to scroll down the whole page.
>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
>
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>

From vern at inkspotco.com  Thu Jun  3 23:41:09 2010
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 21:41:09 -0700
References: <p06200740c823681ed78a@[192.168.0.2]>	<898494.22184.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<450106hlc4solihsq6e7crb4v3ce4btjqk@4ax.com>	<4C01004B.2070705@att.net><ud3206t82bs73qvboionh13i7jh8o62rus@4ax.com><4C011562.7060508@att.net><rg64069j5ke57n2npl7qejbpi7ja8u6p8a@4ax.com>	<66670F6D33FB4AE996B052895487D13D@rw>
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Message-ID: <72158B13-182F-4720-ABED-7D746C79B2CB@inkspotco.com>

Too soon to panic, captain. P6 base units, unless really, really rotten with rust, are pretty stout. The door jamb could just be the fender forced back, for example. I have some experience in this ;-)

Yours
Vern

On 2010-06-03, at 7:32 PM, Steven Dibdin wrote:

> Well I have comprehesively killed 2000TC with aid of a slipped foot a tree and 15 mph. I am fine albeit with a painful chest. But I fear Rolly's base unit is twisted so badly that the front passenger door is jammed shut. The gearbox is jammed in first and the front screen is badly cracked.
>
> I am feeling very sorry for myself right now not to mention that I'm feeling stupid.
>
> Cheers all for all your help and advice over the last five years of Rover ownership. I wouldn't have been able to do this with everyones help and encouragement.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Steven Dibdin
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca

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From p6rovers at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  4 00:55:20 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 22:55:20 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <620738.18980.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Speechless.... Steven.... I'm speechless!
I'm so sorry that has happened to you.

I hope you can get up, brush yourself off, and start again.
Hey......... look at my signature....

I am sure that Vern will drop in with a remark or two on "his" experience.
[Made the front cover of a Roverview,..once!]

(Sorry, I just read and respond in the order I get stuff.)

Eric

"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975

--- On Thu, 6/3/10, Steven Dibdin <sdibdin at hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Steven Dibdin <sdibdin at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Sad news
> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Thursday, June 3, 2010, 7:32 PM
> Well I have comprehesively killed
> 2000TC with aid of a slipped foot a tree and 15 mph. I am
> fine albeit with a painful chest. But I fear Rolly's base
> unit is twisted so badly that the front passenger door is
> jammed shut. The gearbox is jammed in first and the front
>
> I am feeling very sorry for myself right now not to mention
> that I'm feeling stupid.
>
> Cheers all for all your help and advice over the last five
> years of Rover ownership. I wouldn't have been able to do
> this with everyones help and encouragement.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Steven Dibdin
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>

From rovercar at comcast.net  Fri Jun  4 04:26:50 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 05:26:50 -0400
References: <p06200740c823681ed78a@[192.168.0.2]>	<898494.22184.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<450106hlc4solihsq6e7crb4v3ce4btjqk@4ax.com>	<4C01004B.2070705@att.net><ud3206t82bs73qvboionh13i7jh8o62rus@4ax.com><4C011562.7060508@att.net><rg64069j5ke57n2npl7qejbpi7ja8u6p8a@4ax.com>	<66670F6D33FB4AE996B052895487D13D@rw>	<39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959608B38C@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel>	<4C03ACA3.1050105@att.net>
<BLU0-SMTP5832E7F4E7BFE56234285FB0D20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4C08C6DA.9040809@comcast.net>

Steve,

I, too, am sorry to hear of your troubles. As you may know, there are
several of us long-term Rovernetters who are currently without Rovers
either temporarily or permanently. I hope you will stay subscribed to
the list and give us all the gift of your fellowship. I also know (from
having met you all in person) that you are only half the age of Kent and
about a third the age of Eric! Don't go to Prince Edward Island and
shove off in a coracle back to England! Stick with the list, and another
Rover may pop up that needs a home. They do that, you know, and
sometimes they are even free!

In the meantime, hang around and we will commiserate with you for a
couple of weeks until you come to grips with your grief.

Glen

On 06/03/2010 10:32 PM, Steven Dibdin wrote:
> Well I have comprehesively killed 2000TC with aid of a slipped foot a
> tree and 15 mph. I am fine albeit with a painful chest. But I fear
> Rolly's base unit is twisted so badly that the front passenger door is
> jammed shut. The gearbox is jammed in first and the front screen is
>
> I am feeling very sorry for myself right now not to mention that I'm
> feeling stupid.
>
> Cheers all for all your help and advice over the last five years of
> Rover ownership. I wouldn't have been able to do this with everyones
> help and encouragement.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Steven Dibdin
>
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>

From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com  Fri Jun  4 05:10:48 2010
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:10:48 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] R:  Sad news
References: <BLU0-SMTP5832E7F4E7BFE56234285FB0D20@phx.gbl>
<620738.18980.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Dear Steven,

I am very very sorry and I undertand you.

I am happy you' re ok, and I hope you will be able to rebuilt your beloved Rovers with some spare parts.

Best regards, hear you soon, Gianluca.

-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Eric Russell
Inviato: venerd? 4 giugno 2010 7.55
A: The original Rovernet ...
Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet ] Sad news

Speechless.... Steven.... I'm speechless!
I'm so sorry that has happened to you.

I hope you can get up, brush yourself off, and start again.
Hey......... look at my signature....

I am sure that Vern will drop in with a remark or two on "his" experience.
[Made the front cover of a Roverview,..once!]

(Sorry, I just read and respond in the order I get stuff.)

Eric

"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979; "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975

--- On Thu, 6/3/10, Steven Dibdin <sdibdin at hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Steven Dibdin <sdibdin at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Sad news
> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Thursday, June 3, 2010, 7:32 PM Well I have comprehesively
> killed 2000TC with aid of a slipped foot a tree and 15 mph. I am fine
> albeit with a painful chest. But I fear Rolly's base unit is twisted
> so badly that the front passenger door is jammed shut. The gearbox is
> jammed in first and the front screen is badly cracked.
>
> I am feeling very sorry for myself right now not to mention that I'm
> feeling stupid.
>
> Cheers all for all your help and advice over the last five years of
> Rover ownership. I wouldn't have been able to do this with everyones
> help and encouragement.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Steven Dibdin
>
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>

To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca

From hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu  Fri Jun  4 06:44:02 2010
From: hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu (Henry Manwell)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 07:44:02 -0400
References: <p06200740c823681ed78a@[192.168.0.2]>	<898494.22184.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<450106hlc4solihsq6e7crb4v3ce4btjqk@4ax.com>	<4C01004B.2070705@att.net><ud3206t82bs73qvboionh13i7jh8o62rus@4ax.com><4C011562.7060508@att.net><rg64069j5ke57n2npl7qejbpi7ja8u6p8a@4ax.com>	<66670F6D33FB4AE996B052895487D13D@rw>
<4C03ACA3.1050105@att.net>
<BLU0-SMTP5832E7F4E7BFE56234285FB0D20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <13694A2E-0E1B-482D-A2A8-93EB596B9D89@alumni.bates.edu>

I feel your pain, Steve,  but it's not hopeless.

The '71 Series II I'm driving we brought back to life after the previous owner went off the road and stove in the right front corner probably at more than 15 MPH.  The wheel base on that side was shortened considerably and was pulled back out by the appropriate equipment at my local body shop.  Some hammer and dolly work on the inner sheet metal, a new fender, hood, apron, and bumper has is back in pretty good shape.  I'd be surprised if your "A" pillar is bent.  And solid body shells are available as are good whole cars.

Hank

On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:32 PM, Steven Dibdin wrote:

> Well I have comprehesively killed 2000TC with aid of a slipped foot a tree and 15 mph. I am fine albeit with a painful chest. But I fear Rolly's base unit is twisted so badly that the front passenger door is jammed shut. The gearbox is jammed in first and the front screen is badly cracked.
>
> I am feeling very sorry for myself right now not to mention that I'm feeling stupid.
>
> Cheers all for all your help and advice over the last five years of Rover ownership. I wouldn't have been able to do this with everyones help and encouragement.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Steven Dibdin
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca

From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu  Fri Jun  4 06:51:15 2010
From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell)
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 07:51:15 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Fwd: Re:  Sad news
Message-ID: <4C08E8B3.2040406@alum.swarthmore.edu>

Second try; for some reason this didn't reach Rovernet on the first
attempt...

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Re: [Rovernet ] Sad news
Date: 	Thu, 03 Jun 2010 22:54:58 -0400
From: 	S Manwell <s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu>
To: 	The original Rovernet ... <rovernet at rovernet.ca>

Steven

Glad that you're OK!  Meanwhile, I'm sure that parts can be found to
repair your car or that another car with good base unit can be found to
transfer your running gear into.  Come on up to Rove America later this
month for a re-charge of enthusiasm; maybe you'll find Rolly II as well ...

--Steve Manwell

On 6/3/2010 10:32 PM, Steven Dibdin wrote:
>  Well I have comprehesively killed 2000TC with aid of a slipped foot a
>  tree and 15 mph. I am fine albeit with a painful chest. But I fear
>  Rolly's base unit is twisted so badly that the front passenger door is
>  jammed shut. The gearbox is jammed in first and the front screen is
>
>

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From rovercar at comcast.net  Fri Jun  4 07:02:57 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 08:02:57 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] OT:  Yahoo
References: <p06200740c823681ed78a@[192.168.0.2]>	<898494.22184.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<450106hlc4solihsq6e7crb4v3ce4btjqk@4ax.com>	<4C01004B.2070705@att.net><ud3206t82bs73qvboionh13i7jh8o62rus@4ax.com><4C011562.7060508@att.net><rg64069j5ke57n2npl7qejbpi7ja8u6p8a@4ax.com>	<66670F6D33FB4AE996B052895487D13D@rw>	<39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959608B38C@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel>	<4C03ACA3.1050105@att.net>	<BLU0-SMTP5832E7F4E7BFE56234285FB0D20@phx.gbl>
<13694A2E-0E1B-482D-A2A8-93EB596B9D89@alumni.bates.edu>
Message-ID: <4C08EB71.4010709@comcast.net>

I have been receiving spam lately. I have several email addresses that
all forward to my primary address. Anyhoo, I took a close look at the
headers and noticed that it's all coming from the Yahoo address I set up
for the backup system. I'm not sure if I need a Yahoo address to access
the Yahoo Group for Rovernet, but I am canceling the Yahoo email account.

Glen

From fjcumberland at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  4 07:23:54 2010
From: fjcumberland at yahoo.com (Jim Cumberland)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 05:23:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] R:  Sad news
References: <BLU0-SMTP5832E7F4E7BFE56234285FB0D20@phx.gbl>
<620738.18980.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <675532.7042.qm@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Steven,

Hope you're OK.? Sorry to hear about the Rover.

Regards,

Jim

________________________________
From: "gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com" <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com>
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Sent: Fri, June 4, 2010 6:10:48 AM
Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Sad news

Dear Steven,

??? ??? I am very very sorry and I undertand you.

I am happy you' re ok, and I hope you will be able to rebuilt your beloved Rovers with some spare parts.

Best regards, hear you soon, Gianluca.

-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Eric Russell
Inviato: venerd? 4 giugno 2010 7.55
A: The original Rovernet ...
Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet ] Sad news

Speechless.... Steven.... I'm speechless!
I'm so sorry that has happened to you.

I hope you can get up, brush yourself off, and start again.
Hey......... look at my signature....

I am sure that Vern will drop in with a remark or two on "his" experience.
[Made the front cover of a Roverview,..once!]

(Sorry, I just read and respond in the order I get stuff.)

Eric

"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979; "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975

--- On Thu, 6/3/10, Steven Dibdin <sdibdin at hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Steven Dibdin <sdibdin at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Sad news
> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Thursday, June 3, 2010, 7:32 PM Well I have comprehesively
> killed 2000TC with aid of a slipped foot a tree and 15 mph. I am fine
> albeit with a painful chest. But I fear Rolly's base unit is twisted
> so badly that the front passenger door is jammed shut. The gearbox is
> jammed in first and the front screen is badly cracked.
>
> I am feeling very sorry for myself right now not to mention that I'm
> feeling stupid.
>
> Cheers all for all your help and advice over the last five years of
> Rover ownership. I wouldn't have been able to do this with everyones
> help and encouragement.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Steven Dibdin
>
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>

To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca

To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
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From fjcumberland at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  4 07:37:06 2010
From: fjcumberland at yahoo.com (Jim Cumberland)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 05:37:06 -0700 (PDT)
References: <p06200740c823681ed78a@[192.168.0.2]>
<898494.22184.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<450106hlc4solihsq6e7crb4v3ce4btjqk@4ax.com>
<4C01004B.2070705@att.net><ud3206t82bs73qvboionh13i7jh8o62rus@4ax.com><4C011562.7060508@att.net><rg64069j5ke57n2npl7qejbpi7ja8u6p8a@4ax.com>
<66670F6D33FB4AE996B052895487D13D@rw>
<4C03ACA3.1050105@att.net>
<BLU0-SMTP5832E7F4E7BFE56234285FB0D20@phx.gbl>
<4C08C6DA.9040809@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <750591.18286.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Steve (and anyone else who's interested),

This is kind of a crass commercial follow-up, but my '71 NADA TC is running and for sale.? I have an interested?party coming to view the car this morning, but if he decides he does not want it I'll let the Rovernet know, as I want to sell it soon.

Cheers,

Jim

?

________________________________
From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
To: The original Rovernet ... <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Fri, June 4, 2010 5:26:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Sad news

Steve,

I, too, am sorry to hear of your troubles. As you may know, there are several of us long-term Rovernetters who are currently without Rovers either temporarily or permanently. I hope you will stay subscribed to the list and give us all the gift of your fellowship. I also know (from having met you all in person) that you are only half the age of Kent and about a third the age of Eric! Don't go to Prince Edward Island and shove off in a coracle back to England! Stick with the list, and another Rover may pop up that needs a home. They do that, you know, and sometimes they are even free!

In the meantime, hang around and we will commiserate with you for a couple of weeks until you come to grips with your grief.

Glen

On 06/03/2010 10:32 PM, Steven Dibdin wrote:
> Well I have comprehesively killed 2000TC with aid of a slipped foot a tree and 15 mph. I am fine albeit with a painful chest. But I fear Rolly's base unit is twisted so badly that the front passenger door is jammed shut. The gearbox is jammed in first and the front screen is badly cracked.
>
> I am feeling very sorry for myself right now not to mention that I'm feeling stupid.
>
> Cheers all for all your help and advice over the last five years of Rover ownership. I wouldn't have been able to do this with everyones help and encouragement.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Steven Dibdin
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>

To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
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From sdibdin at hotmail.com  Fri Jun  4 07:53:07 2010
From: sdibdin at hotmail.com (Steven Dibdin)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 08:53:07 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Fwd: Re:  Sad news
References: <4C08E8B3.2040406@alum.swarthmore.edu>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP9004DC47E667F41BE77092B0D20@phx.gbl>

Hi Steve

Thanks for ideas. I have two problems. One is the distance from home,
the second is that I doubt I have the cash to effect repairs to the
car. At this point I'm considering finding someone who would like good
spares vehicle as a lot of the car is in good condition. Braking
system, engine is effectively brand new if it's survived the accident.

Unfortunately the tree trunck was a good 24-28" diameter and looking
back at the damage I may have been going nearer to 25mph. Although I
must say I can't see how as I had only been moving for about 40 feet
as most.

Thing in other areas of my dictate that I might need tp wash my hands
of the car. Even though it pains me greatly to admit it.

Cheers,

Steven

On Jun 4, 2010, at 7:51 AM, S Manwell <s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu>
wrote:

> Second try; for some reason this didn't reach Rovernet on the first
> attempt...
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject:    Re: [Rovernet ] Sad news
> Date:    Thu, 03 Jun 2010 22:54:58 -0400
> From:    S Manwell <s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu>
> To:    The original Rovernet ... <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>
>
>
> Steven
>
> Glad that you're OK!  Meanwhile, I'm sure that parts can be found to
> repair your car or that another car with good base unit can be found
> to
> transfer your running gear into.  Come on up to Rove America later
> this
> month for a re-charge of enthusiasm; maybe you'll find Rolly II as
> well ...
>
> --Steve Manwell
>
>
>
> On 6/3/2010 10:32 PM, Steven Dibdin wrote:
>> Well I have comprehesively killed 2000TC with aid of a slipped foot a
>> tree and 15 mph. I am fine albeit with a painful chest. But I fear
>> Rolly's base unit is twisted so badly that the front passenger door
>> is
>> jammed shut. The gearbox is jammed in first and the front screen is
>>
>>
>
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> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>

From defender110 at ozemail.com.au  Fri Jun  4 08:03:22 2010
From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read)
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 22:33:22 +0930
Subject: [Rovernet ] OT:  Yahoo
References: <p06200740c823681ed78a@[192.168.0.2]>	<898494.22184.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<450106hlc4solihsq6e7crb4v3ce4btjqk@4ax.com>	<4C01004B.2070705@att.net><ud3206t82bs73qvboionh13i7jh8o62rus@4ax.com><4C011562.7060508@att.net><rg64069j5ke57n2npl7qejbpi7ja8u6p8a@4ax.com>	<66670F6D33FB4AE996B052895487D13D@rw>	<39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959608B38C@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel>	<4C03ACA3.1050105@att.net>	<BLU0-SMTP5832E7F4E7BFE56234285FB0D20@phx.gbl>	<13694A2E-0E1B-482D-A2A8-93EB596B9D89@alumni.bates.edu>
<4C08EB71.4010709@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4C08F99A.4050802@ozemail.com.au>

Hi Glen
Good moove .... Yahoo! doesn't give a s*$t about spam. A Yahoo! discussion group I belong to has almost disintegrated under the volume of$pam.
Having the list owner going AWOL hasn't helped much either <gloom>.
No privacy settings can be changed ....

Cheers
Dave
South Oz

On 6/4/2010 9:32 PM, Glen Wilson wrote:
> I have been receiving spam lately. I have several email addresses that
> all forward to my primary address. Anyhoo, I took a close look at the
> headers and noticed that it's all coming from the Yahoo address I set up
> for the backup system. I'm not sure if I need a Yahoo address to access
> the Yahoo Group for Rovernet, but I am canceling the Yahoo email account.
>
> Glen

From kkinard at att.net  Fri Jun  4 08:30:47 2010
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 08:30:47 -0500
References: <p06200740c823681ed78a@[192.168.0.2]>	<898494.22184.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<450106hlc4solihsq6e7crb4v3ce4btjqk@4ax.com>	<4C01004B.2070705@att.net><ud3206t82bs73qvboionh13i7jh8o62rus@4ax.com><4C011562.7060508@att.net><rg64069j5ke57n2npl7qejbpi7ja8u6p8a@4ax.com>	<66670F6D33FB4AE996B052895487D13D@rw>	<39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959608B38C@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel>	<4C03ACA3.1050105@att.net>	<BLU0-SMTP5832E7F4E7BFE56234285FB0D20@phx.gbl>
<4C08C6DA.9040809@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4C090007.30102@att.net>

Hi Steve,
I sent this earlier, but it hasn't shown up on Rovernet so I will post
again.
I'm sorry to hear of your accident. I will be happy to supply you with
another base unit with all glass should you decide you need one. Contact
me off list.

Rovereplacemently,
Kent K.

Glen Wilson wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> I, too, am sorry to hear of your troubles. As you may know, there are
> several of us long-term Rovernetters who are currently without Rovers
> either temporarily or permanently. I hope you will stay subscribed to
> the list and give us all the gift of your fellowship. I also know
> (from having met you all in person) that you are only half the age of
> Kent and about a third the age of Eric! Don't go to Prince Edward
> Island and shove off in a coracle back to England! Stick with the
> list, and another Rover may pop up that needs a home. They do that,
> you know, and sometimes they are even free!
>
> In the meantime, hang around and we will commiserate with you for a
> couple of weeks until you come to grips with your grief.
>
> Glen
>
>
> On 06/03/2010 10:32 PM, Steven Dibdin wrote:
>> Well I have comprehesively killed 2000TC with aid of a slipped foot a
>> tree and 15 mph. I am fine albeit with a painful chest. But I fear
>> Rolly's base unit is twisted so badly that the front passenger door
>> is jammed shut. The gearbox is jammed in first and the front screen
>>
>> I am feeling very sorry for myself right now not to mention that I'm
>> feeling stupid.
>>
>> Cheers all for all your help and advice over the last five years of
>> Rover ownership. I wouldn't have been able to do this with everyones
>> help and encouragement.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Steven Dibdin
>>
>> Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>
>
>
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>

From p6rovers at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  4 11:55:27 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 09:55:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] OT:  Yahoo
Message-ID: <434392.48736.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have developed a deeper security issue on Yahoo within my "Personal Account" settings.
I telephoned Yahoo and had an alien address removed as it would't delete normally. I then changed all my challenge questions and have set up a new email under <epwrussell at yahoo.ca>.  I removed all my contacts, inbox mail, sent mail, etc.  I need to keep the old address until I am sure I have notified important people, airlines, etc.

So....... <erussellrv at yahoo.com> is a SPAM repository.

>>>>My address <epwrussell at yahoo.ca> is a new start.<<<<

Eric

"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975

--- On Fri, 6/4/10, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote:

> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
> Subject: [Rovernet ] OT:  Yahoo
> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Friday, June 4, 2010, 5:02 AM
> I have been receiving spam lately. I
> have several email addresses that all forward to my primary
> address. Anyhoo, I took a close look at the headers and
> noticed that it's all coming from the Yahoo address I set up
> for the backup system. I'm not sure if I need a Yahoo
> address to access the Yahoo Group for Rovernet, but I am
> canceling the Yahoo email account.
>
> Glen
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>

From geffandjulie at comcast.net  Fri Jun  4 13:40:56 2010
From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 11:40:56 -0700
References: <p06200740c823681ed78a@[192.168.0.2]>	<898494.22184.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<450106hlc4solihsq6e7crb4v3ce4btjqk@4ax.com>	<4C01004B.2070705@att.net><ud3206t82bs73qvboionh13i7jh8o62rus@4ax.com><4C011562.7060508@att.net><rg64069j5ke57n2npl7qejbpi7ja8u6p8a@4ax.com>	<66670F6D33FB4AE996B052895487D13D@rw>	<39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959608B38C@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel>	<4C03ACA3.1050105@att.net>	<BLU0-SMTP5832E7F4E7BFE56234285FB0D20@phx.gbl>
<13694A2E-0E1B-482D-A2A8-93EB596B9D89@alumni.bates.edu>
Message-ID: <006301cb0415$786cc650$694652f0@net> Steve, sorry to hear of your mishap, glad it was not worse! I note your chest pain and assume it is not just from a broken heart... Hope you won't mind a safety question for the benefit of the 'netters: **Were you wearing the shoulder belt? If so, was it an inertia reel? As an expert in safety and human impact tolerance, I would comment in advance that both types have the same potential deficiency: They allow too much torso movement. Paradoxically, the fixed, aircraft-type belt may be better, but only if VERY tight. All inertia reels are very reliable, but depend on deceleration or fast outward belt movement to trigger the lock. By that time, there is slack in the belt. (Ejection seats are the same: When you "pull the handle" the first thing that happens is that the shoulder belts reel back in very forcefully and pin you back in the seat. This is to align the spine for the 14G contemporary, and older 25G upward accel.) Contemporary cars have belt-tightening that is triggered by deceleration. This minimizes torso travel and therefore chest injury. If any of you out there are considering a new car, buy one that has the auto belts and auto headrests, etc. Geff and Julie McCarthy 677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR 97210 503-241-8468 503-799-3809 mobile -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Henry Manwell Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 4:44 AM To: The original Rovernet ... Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Sad news I feel your pain, Steve, but it's not hopeless. The '71 Series II I'm driving we brought back to life after the previous owner went off the road and stove in the right front corner probably at more than 15 MPH. The wheel base on that side was shortened considerably and was pulled back out by the appropriate equipment at my local body shop. Some hammer and dolly work on the inner sheet metal, a new fender, hood, apron, and bumper has is back in pretty good shape. I'd be surprised if your "A" pillar is bent. And solid body shells are available as are good whole cars. Hank On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:32 PM, Steven Dibdin wrote: > Well I have comprehesively killed 2000TC with aid of a slipped foot a tree and 15 mph. I am fine albeit with a painful chest. But I fear Rolly's base unit is twisted so badly that the front passenger door is jammed shut. The gearbox is jammed in first and the front screen is badly cracked. > > I am feeling very sorry for myself right now not to mention that I'm feeling stupid. > > Cheers all for all your help and advice over the last five years of Rover ownership. I wouldn't have been able to do this with everyones help and encouragement. > > Kind regards, > > Steven Dibdin > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca From rovercar at comcast.net Fri Jun 4 14:09:33 2010 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 15:09:33 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] Sad news In-Reply-To: <006301cb0415786cc650$694652f0$@net>
References: <p06200740c823681ed78a@[192.168.0.2]>	<898494.22184.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<450106hlc4solihsq6e7crb4v3ce4btjqk@4ax.com>	<4C01004B.2070705@att.net><ud3206t82bs73qvboionh13i7jh8o62rus@4ax.com><4C011562.7060508@att.net><rg64069j5ke57n2npl7qejbpi7ja8u6p8a@4ax.com>	<66670F6D33FB4AE996B052895487D13D@rw>	<39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959608B38C@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel>	<4C03ACA3.1050105@att.net>	<BLU0-SMTP5832E7F4E7BFE56234285FB0D20@phx.gbl>	<13694A2E-0E1B-482D-A2A8-93EB596B9D89@alumni.bates.edu>
<006301cb0415$786cc650$694652f0@net> Message-ID: <4C094F6D.40007@comcast.net> On 06/04/2010 02:40 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote: > (Ejection seats are the same: > When you "pull the handle" the first thing that happens is that the shoulder > belts reel back in very forcefully and pin you back in the seat. This is to > align the spine for the 14G contemporary, and older 25G upward accel.) > Contemporary cars have belt-tightening that is triggered by deceleration. > This minimizes torso travel and therefore chest injury. If any of you out > there are considering a new car, buy one that has the auto belts and auto > headrests, etc. > Geff also has a DB4 and forgot which list he was replying to... ;-) Glen From derekrockford at hotmail.com Fri Jun 4 14:15:55 2010 From: derekrockford at hotmail.com (Derek Rockford) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:15:55 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] Sad news In-Reply-To: <4C094F6D.40007@comcast.net> References: <p06200740c823681ed78a@[192.168.0.2]> <898494.22184.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <450106hlc4solihsq6e7crb4v3ce4btjqk@4ax.com> <4C01004B.2070705@att.net><ud3206t82bs73qvboionh13i7jh8o62rus@4ax.com><4C011562.7060508@att.net><rg64069j5ke57n2npl7qejbpi7ja8u6p8a@4ax.com> <66670F6D33FB4AE996B052895487D13D@rw> <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959608B38C@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel> <4C03ACA3.1050105@att.net> <BLU0-SMTP5832E7F4E7BFE56234285FB0D20@phx.gbl> <13694A2E-0E1B-482D-A2A8-93EB596B9D89@alumni.bates.edu><006301cb0415786cc650$694652f0$@net>
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Gen Wrote:

" Geff also has a DB4 and forgot which list he was replying to..."

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Glen Wilson" <rovercar at comcast.net>
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 3:09 PM
To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Sad news

> On 06/04/2010 02:40 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
>> (Ejection seats are the same:
>> When you "pull the handle" the first thing that happens is that the
>> shoulder
>> belts reel back in very forcefully and pin you back in the seat. This is
>> to
>> align the spine for the 14G contemporary, and older 25G upward accel.)
>>     Contemporary cars have belt-tightening that is triggered by
>> deceleration.
>> This minimizes torso travel and therefore chest injury. If any of you out
>> there are considering a new car, buy one that has the auto belts and auto
>>
>
> Geff also has a DB4 and forgot which list he was replying to...
>
> ;-)
>
> Glen
>
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>

From jaguru at bellsouth.net  Fri Jun  4 14:58:11 2010
From: jaguru at bellsouth.net (James Dean)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:58:11 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Seat Belts
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Message-ID: <6BE7A7013D944BC3B0901FFD84626978@JamesDeanPC1>

About 35 years ago, I was stopped at a light at 2 AM, and was rearended by a
drunken lady doing 40 MPH. I was driving my 69 Rover with factory seat
belts, snugly buckled, and had an ET type headrest. The front of my seat
tore loose and tipped into the back.  The boot lid,  and rear fenders were
pushed in about a foot. I had no injuries or whiplash. Her insurance company
Really wanted to settle before I sued. I wrote an estimate for 1,100; a lot back then, from my shop, and gave it to them.. They insisted I sign a release , that I was not injured. I happily did, cashed the check, and bolted on good panels from a parts car. In about 4 hours, I was happily driving again... as Ralph Nader said of Rovers; "All cars should be built that way"" James Dean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net> To: "'The original Rovernet ...'" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Sad news > Steve, sorry to hear of your mishap, glad it was not worse! I note your > chest pain and assume it is not just from a broken heart... > Hope you won't mind a safety question for the benefit of the 'netters: > **Were you wearing the shoulder belt? If so, was it an inertia reel? > As an expert in safety and human impact tolerance, I would comment in > advance that both types have the same potential deficiency: They allow too > much torso movement. Paradoxically, the fixed, aircraft-type belt may be > better, but only if VERY tight. All inertia reels are very reliable, but > depend on deceleration or fast outward belt movement to trigger the lock. > By > that time, there is slack in the belt. (Ejection seats are the same: > When you "pull the handle" the first thing that happens is that the > shoulder > belts reel back in very forcefully and pin you back in the seat. This is > to > align the spine for the 14G contemporary, and older 25G upward accel.) > Contemporary cars have belt-tightening that is triggered by > deceleration. > This minimizes torso travel and therefore chest injury. If any of you out > there are considering a new car, buy one that has the auto belts and auto > headrests, etc. > > > Geff and Julie McCarthy > 677 NW Melinda Ave > Portland OR 97210 > 503-241-8468 > 503-799-3809 mobile > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > On > Behalf Of Henry Manwell > Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 4:44 AM > To: The original Rovernet ... > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Sad news > > I feel your pain, Steve, but it's not hopeless. > > The '71 Series II I'm driving we brought back to life after the previous > owner went off the road and stove in the right front corner probably at > more > than 15 MPH. The wheel base on that side was shortened considerably and > was > pulled back out by the appropriate equipment at my local body shop. Some > hammer and dolly work on the inner sheet metal, a new fender, hood, apron, > and bumper has is back in pretty good shape. I'd be surprised if your "A" > pillar is bent. And solid body shells are available as are good whole > cars. > > Hank > > > On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:32 PM, Steven Dibdin wrote: > >> Well I have comprehesively killed 2000TC with aid of a slipped foot a >> tree > and 15 mph. I am fine albeit with a painful chest. But I fear Rolly's base > unit is twisted so badly that the front passenger door is jammed shut. The > gearbox is jammed in first and the front screen is badly cracked. >> >> I am feeling very sorry for myself right now not to mention that I'm > feeling stupid. >> >> Cheers all for all your help and advice over the last five years of Rover > ownership. I wouldn't have been able to do this with everyones help and > encouragement. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Steven Dibdin >> >> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be > sure to scroll down the whole page. >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be > sure > to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be > sure to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > From dcduk at tiscali.co.uk Fri Jun 4 15:11:04 2010 From: dcduk at tiscali.co.uk (rich jones) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 21:11:04 +0100 Subject: [Rovernet ] Wanted! 3500S Message-ID: <A873870F1D664471B2FFBA80C4D4117A@richc2upoimqhi> Hi all, I may have emailed a couple of you guys individually in the past to help me locate a rover 3500S NADA, unfortunately no joy, hence a more global approach through Rovernet. I am UK based collector of P6B's now seeking good honest 3500S's with original engines and transmissions. Structurely sound, paintwork not a issue as long it has the same colour scheme for which it was intended. Anything from a derelict salvageable car through to a potential show winner. Please help! Have virtually exhausted every avenue. kind regards Rich Jones dcduk at tiscali.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Structurely sound, > paintwork not a issue as long it has the same colour scheme for > which it was intended. Anything from a derelict salvageable car > through to a potential show winner. Please help! Have virtually > exhausted every avenue. > kind regards > Rich Jones > dcduk at tiscali.co.uk > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100604/f92bcdff/attachment.html > > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. > Be sure to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > From rovercar at comcast.net Fri Jun 4 15:50:48 2010 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:50:48 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] Sad news In-Reply-To: <BLU146-DS358015499F42881D8DE14B8D20@phx.gbl> References: <p06200740c823681ed78a@[192.168.0.2]> <898494.22184.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <450106hlc4solihsq6e7crb4v3ce4btjqk@4ax.com> <4C01004B.2070705@att.net><ud3206t82bs73qvboionh13i7jh8o62rus@4ax.com><4C011562.7060508@att.net><rg64069j5ke57n2npl7qejbpi7ja8u6p8a@4ax.com> <66670F6D33FB4AE996B052895487D13D@rw> <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959608B38C@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel> <4C03ACA3.1050105@att.net> <BLU0-SMTP5832E7F4E7BFE56234285FB0D20@phx.gbl> <13694A2E-0E1B-482D-A2A8-93EB596B9D89@alumni.bates.edu><006301cb0415786cc650$694652f0$@net>	<4C094F6D.40007@comcast.net>
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On 06/04/2010 03:15 PM, Derek Rockford wrote:
>
> Gen Wrote:
>
> " Geff also has a DB4 and forgot which list he was replying to..."
>

Geff owns the prototype, which was a DB4.

You didn't think they got that car right the first time out, did you Derek?

;-)

Glen

>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Glen Wilson" <rovercar at comcast.net>
> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 3:09 PM
> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Sad news
>
>> On 06/04/2010 02:40 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
>>> (Ejection seats are the same:
>>> When you "pull the handle" the first thing that happens is that the
>>> shoulder
>>> belts reel back in very forcefully and pin you back in the seat.
>>> This is to
>>> align the spine for the 14G contemporary, and older 25G upward accel.)
>>>     Contemporary cars have belt-tightening that is triggered by
>>> deceleration.
>>> This minimizes torso travel and therefore chest injury. If any of
>>> you out
>>> there are considering a new car, buy one that has the auto belts and
>>> auto
>>>
>>
>> Geff also has a DB4 and forgot which list he was replying to...
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> Glen
>>
>> Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>
>
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>

From adrian.mcdonald at live.com  Fri Jun  4 15:55:10 2010
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 13:55:10 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Wanted! 3500S
References: <A873870F1D664471B2FFBA80C4D4117A@richc2upoimqhi>

Hi there

I have a 3500s that I have been restoring. The base unit is great as
it is a California car and it runs fine. The panels are straight and
it is more or less ready for the respray. It has the magnum wheels and
the associated hubs. Interior is iffy so needs new carpeting and
fabric trim. Seats are excellent. Naturally lhd with federal bumpers
scoops etc etc

I am thinking about parting with it but only to a good home.

Senior Sales Executive
The Oceanscience Group

Sent from mobile

On Jun 4, 2010, at 1:11 PM, "rich jones" <dcduk at tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi all, I may have emailed a couple of you guys individually in the
> past to help me locate a rover 3500S NADA, unfortunately no joy,
> hence a more global approach through Rovernet.
> I am UK based collector of P6B's now seeking good honest 3500S's
> with original engines and transmissions. Structurely sound,
> paintwork not a issue as long it has the same colour scheme for
> which it was intended. Anything from a derelict salvageable car
> exhausted every avenue.
> kind regards
> Rich Jones
> dcduk at tiscali.co.uk
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From rovercar at comcast.net  Fri Jun  4 16:02:20 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:02:20 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Wanted! 3500S
References: <A873870F1D664471B2FFBA80C4D4117A@richc2upoimqhi>
Message-ID: <4C0969DC.2010107@comcast.net>

On 06/04/2010 04:11 PM, rich jones wrote:
> Hi all, I may have emailed a couple of you guys individually in the past to help me locate a rover 3500S NADA, unfortunately no joy, hence a more global approach through Rovernet.
> I am UK based collector of P6B's now seeking good honest 3500S's with original engines and transmissions. Structurely sound, paintwork not a issue as long it has the same colour scheme for which it was intended. Anything from a derelict salvageable car through to a potential show winner. Please help! Have virtually exhausted every avenue.
> kind regards
> Rich Jones
> dcduk at tiscali.co.uk
>

Rich,

You might want to keep checking the U.S. or Canada version of eBay
because they do show up. Then ask if anyone on the Rovernet is nearby
and can take a look at it for you.

If you are willing to go on safari in the USA, the town with the highest
per capita concentration of Rovers is Fitchburg, MA.  It will be even
higher there in a couple of weeks when RoveAmerica 2010 kicks off.

http://www.roveramerica.com/RoveAmerica10-s2.html

Glen

From dcduk at tiscali.co.uk  Fri Jun  4 16:22:06 2010
From: dcduk at tiscali.co.uk (rich jones)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 22:22:06 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet ] Wanted! 3500S
References: <A873870F1D664471B2FFBA80C4D4117A@richc2upoimqhi>
<4C0969DC.2010107@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <F4F69D8D04DD48B4967846F09836FB2F@richc2upoimqhi>

Hi Glen,
Thats very kind of you, never stop learning in this game! I have my eyes
constantly fixed on ebay.com, great idea in regards to Fitchburg, just need
to dig out my jungle hat!
Seriously though, I do appreciate the assistance, very difficult from this
distance to ascertain condition etc...
Although by profession a master technician and usually very reluctant to
work on any car after 5.30! I am constantly drawn back to P6B's. I currently
own one arden green 3500S amongst other UK spec cars, however I do prefer
the S, hence the effort to getting a few back to England to look afer
Rich
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glen Wilson" <rovercar at comcast.net>
To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Wanted! 3500S

> On 06/04/2010 04:11 PM, rich jones wrote:
>> Hi all, I may have emailed a couple of you guys individually in the past
>> to help me locate a rover 3500S NADA, unfortunately no joy, hence a more
>> global approach through Rovernet.
>> I am UK based collector of P6B's now seeking good honest 3500S's with
>> original engines and transmissions. Structurely sound, paintwork not a
>> issue as long it has the same colour scheme for which it was intended.
>> Anything from a derelict salvageable car through to a potential show
>> kind regards
>> Rich Jones
>> dcduk at tiscali.co.uk
>>
>
> Rich,
>
> You might want to keep checking the U.S. or Canada version of eBay
> because they do show up. Then ask if anyone on the Rovernet is nearby
> and can take a look at it for you.
>
> If you are willing to go on safari in the USA, the town with the highest
> per capita concentration of Rovers is Fitchburg, MA.  It will be even
> higher there in a couple of weeks when RoveAmerica 2010 kicks off.
>
> http://www.roveramerica.com/RoveAmerica10-s2.html
>
> Glen
>
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca

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From p6rovers at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  4 16:56:00 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 14:56:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Wanted! 3500S
Message-ID: <272244.5971.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Glen's right!
It's like the "Costco" or "Tesco" for Rover cars ROFLMHO

Eric

"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975

--- On Fri, 6/4/10, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote:

> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Wanted! 3500S
> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Friday, June 4, 2010, 2:02 PM
> On 06/04/2010 04:11 PM, rich jones
> wrote:
> > Hi all, I may have emailed a couple of you guys
> individually in the past to help me locate a rover 3500S
> NADA, unfortunately no joy, hence a more global approach
> through Rovernet.
> > I am UK based collector of P6B's now seeking good
> honest 3500S's with original engines and transmissions.
> Structurely sound, paintwork not a issue as long it has the
> same colour scheme for which it was intended. Anything from
> a derelict salvageable car through to a potential show
> > kind regards
> > Rich Jones
> > dcduk at tiscali.co.uk
> >? ?
>
> Rich,
>
> You might want to keep checking the U.S. or Canada version
> of eBay because they do show up. Then ask if anyone on the
> Rovernet is nearby and can take a look at it for you.
>
> If you are willing to go on safari in the USA, the town
> with the highest per capita concentration of Rovers is
> Fitchburg, MA.? It will be even higher there in a
> couple of weeks when RoveAmerica 2010 kicks off.
>
> http://www.roveramerica.com/RoveAmerica10-s2.html
>
> Glen
>
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From kkinard at att.net  Fri Jun  4 18:22:16 2010
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 18:22:16 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Wanted! 3500S
References: <A873870F1D664471B2FFBA80C4D4117A@richc2upoimqhi>
Message-ID: <4C098AA8.9000900@att.net>

Hi Rich,
I have one that I would sell.

Roverly,
Kent Kinard
San Antonio, Texas USA

rich jones wrote:
> Hi all, I may have emailed a couple of you guys individually in the past to help me locate a rover 3500S NADA, unfortunately no joy, hence a more global approach through Rovernet.
> I am UK based collector of P6B's now seeking good honest 3500S's with original engines and transmissions. Structurely sound, paintwork not a issue as long it has the same colour scheme for which it was intended. Anything from a derelict salvageable car through to a potential show winner. Please help! Have virtually exhausted every avenue.
> kind regards
> Rich Jones
> dcduk at tiscali.co.uk
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From paterson.dave at sympatico.ca  Fri Jun  4 20:20:07 2010
From: paterson.dave at sympatico.ca (DAVID PATERSON)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 21:20:07 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] 1968 P6 Available
References: <A873870F1D664471B2FFBA80C4D4117A@richc2upoimqhi>,
<BLU0-SMTP61C3A8D045E995800867299ED20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <SNT139-w465A68D821DD60955B933689D30@phx.gbl>

I have been told by She-Who-Must-be-Obeyed that I have to get rid of my 1968 P6 2000 automatic.  It has been sitting in my garage since 2002 when an electrical fault prevented it from starting.  I haven?t had the time nor the electrical skills to fix it and there is nobody in the area who will work on British vehicles.  I bought the car in 1995 in Victoria B.C. and drove it back to Guelph.  In 1999 it was converted to twin carbs with a noticeable improvement in power.  The car is is white with a red interior. The body is sound and in good shape.   The interior is clean and the leather is in good condition (I?ve treated it every year), with the exception of the tops of the rear seats, which have been sun-damaged. There is lots of tread on the tires. There is to be a local auction of antique cars on the 19th of June but I thought I would see if there is any interest among Rover enthusiasts before commiting.

Dave Paterson

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From rovercar at comcast.net  Fri Jun  4 20:43:24 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 21:43:24 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Wanted! 3500S
References: <A873870F1D664471B2FFBA80C4D4117A@richc2upoimqhi>
<4C098AA8.9000900@att.net>
Message-ID: <4C09ABBC.3000307@comcast.net>

On 06/04/2010 07:22 PM, Kent Kinard wrote:
> Hi Rich,
> I have one that I would sell.
>
> Roverly,
> Kent Kinard
> San Antonio, Texas USA

Rich,

The Rovers that are not in Fitchburg are mostly in Texas, and they are
owned by an itinerant Methodist preacher who used to conduct a sort of
"Rover Ministry" in the course of which he towed an empty trailer to all
corners of the contiguous 48 states. He relieved many frustrated souls
of their "Rover burdens" and established a sort of Rover purgatory near
San Antonio where rust is never a problem.

That would be Kent.

;-)

Glen

From kkinard at att.net  Fri Jun  4 22:10:55 2010
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 22:10:55 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Wanted! 3500S
References: <A873870F1D664471B2FFBA80C4D4117A@richc2upoimqhi>	<4C098AA8.9000900@att.net>
<4C09ABBC.3000307@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4C09C03F.3020205@att.net>

Actually, I am selling them piece by piece to James Dean.... :-)
Roverecylingly,
Kent K.
> Rich,
>
> The Rovers that are not in Fitchburg are mostly in Texas, and they are
> owned by an itinerant Methodist preacher who used to conduct a sort of
> "Rover Ministry" in the course of which he towed an empty trailer to
> all corners of the contiguous 48 states. He relieved many frustrated
> souls of their "Rover burdens" and established a sort of Rover
> purgatory near San Antonio where rust is never a problem.
>
> That would be Kent.
>
> ;-)
>
> Glen
>

From geffandjulie at comcast.net  Fri Jun  4 22:22:50 2010
From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 20:22:50 -0700
References: <p06200740c823681ed78a@[192.168.0.2]>	<898494.22184.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<450106hlc4solihsq6e7crb4v3ce4btjqk@4ax.com>	<4C01004B.2070705@att.net><ud3206t82bs73qvboionh13i7jh8o62rus@4ax.com><4C011562.7060508@att.net><rg64069j5ke57n2npl7qejbpi7ja8u6p8a@4ax.com>	<66670F6D33FB4AE996B052895487D13D@rw>	<39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959608B38C@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel>	<4C03ACA3.1050105@att.net>	<BLU0-SMTP5832E7F4E7BFE56234285FB0D20@phx.gbl>	<13694A2E-0E1B-482D-A2A8-93EB596B9D89@alumni.bates.edu><006301cb0415$786cc650$694652f0$@net> <4C094F6D.40007@comcast.net> <BLU146-DS358015499F42881D8DE14B8D20@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <000f01cb045e$60ed1c20$22c75460$@net>

DB4 vs. Db5...I regret I own neither...!

Geff and Julie McCarthy
677 NW Melinda Ave
Portland OR 97210
503-241-8468
503-799-3809 mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Derek Rockford
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 12:16 PM
To: The original Rovernet ...
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Sad news

Gen Wrote:

" Geff also has a DB4 and forgot which list he was replying to..."

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Glen Wilson" <rovercar at comcast.net>
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 3:09 PM
To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Sad news

> On 06/04/2010 02:40 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
>> (Ejection seats are the same:
>> When you "pull the handle" the first thing that happens is that the
>> shoulder
>> belts reel back in very forcefully and pin you back in the seat. This is
>> to
>> align the spine for the 14G contemporary, and older 25G upward accel.)
>>     Contemporary cars have belt-tightening that is triggered by
>> deceleration.
>> This minimizes torso travel and therefore chest injury. If any of you out
>> there are considering a new car, buy one that has the auto belts and auto
>>
>
> Geff also has a DB4 and forgot which list he was replying to...
>
> ;-)
>
> Glen
>
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>

to scroll down the whole page.
http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca

From dcduk at tiscali.co.uk  Sat Jun  5 03:24:35 2010
From: dcduk at tiscali.co.uk (rich jones)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 09:24:35 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet ] Wanted! 3500S
References: <A873870F1D664471B2FFBA80C4D4117A@richc2upoimqhi><4C098AA8.9000900@att.net>
<4C09ABBC.3000307@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <2F5878035FEB459E91F8635D720C6554@richc2upoimqhi>

Many thanks Glen! I'm not often smiling at this time of the morning , so
thanks for that!
Rich
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glen Wilson" <rovercar at comcast.net>
To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 2:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Wanted! 3500S

> On 06/04/2010 07:22 PM, Kent Kinard wrote:
>> Hi Rich,
>> I have one that I would sell.
>>
>> Roverly,
>> Kent Kinard
>> San Antonio, Texas USA
>
> Rich,
>
> The Rovers that are not in Fitchburg are mostly in Texas, and they are
> owned by an itinerant Methodist preacher who used to conduct a sort of
> "Rover Ministry" in the course of which he towed an empty trailer to all
> corners of the contiguous 48 states. He relieved many frustrated souls
> of their "Rover burdens" and established a sort of Rover purgatory near
> San Antonio where rust is never a problem.
>
> That would be Kent.
>
> ;-)
>
> Glen
>
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca

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From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com  Sat Jun  5 06:45:17 2010
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 07:45:17 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Wanted! 3500S
References: <mailman.11.1275726267.16327.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
Message-ID: <SNT105-W42A2268DE65750D96AF4E58ED30@phx.gbl>

> >> Hi all, I may have emailed a couple of you guys individually in the past
> >> to help me locate a rover 3500S NADA, unfortunately no joy, hence a more
> >> global approach through Rovernet.
> >> I am UK based collector of P6B's now seeking good honest 3500S's with
> >> original engines and transmissions. Structurely sound, paintwork not a
> >> issue as long it has the same colour scheme for which it was intended.
> >> Anything from a derelict salvageable car through to a potential show
> >> kind regards
> >> Rich Jones
> >> dcduk at tiscali.co.uk
> >>
> >
> > Rich,
> >
>******************************

Craigslist is a good place to have a look as well. You can search craigslist nationally using google.
To seach for a Rover 3500 on craigslist. I put into the google search bar "Rover 3500 site:craigslist.org"
You may also want to put in "-land -range" which will stop advertisements for land rovers and range rovers appearing in the search results.

James.

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From dcduk at tiscali.co.uk  Sat Jun  5 07:04:43 2010
From: dcduk at tiscali.co.uk (rich jones)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 13:04:43 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet ] Wanted! 3500S
References: <mailman.11.1275726267.16327.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
<SNT105-W42A2268DE65750D96AF4E58ED30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <FA8302EF8DA04CA7ABA2D92C936BB104@richc2upoimqhi>

Cheers James, I will of course take that onboard. I'll be needing a PA at
this rate!
Many thanks
Rich
----- Original Message -----
To: "Rover Net" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 12:45 PM
Subject: [Rovernet ] Wanted! 3500S

>
>
>
>> >> Hi all, I may have emailed a couple of you guys individually in the
>> >> past
>> >> to help me locate a rover 3500S NADA, unfortunately no joy, hence a
>> >> more
>> >> global approach through Rovernet.
>> >> I am UK based collector of P6B's now seeking good honest 3500S's with
>> >> original engines and transmissions. Structurely sound, paintwork not a
>> >> issue as long it has the same colour scheme for which it was intended.
>> >> Anything from a derelict salvageable car through to a potential show
>> >> kind regards
>> >> Rich Jones
>> >> dcduk at tiscali.co.uk
>> >>
>> >
>> > Rich,
>> >
>>******************************
>
> Craigslist is a good place to have a look as well. You can search
> To seach for a Rover 3500 on craigslist. I put into the google search bar
> "Rover 3500 site:craigslist.org"
> You may also want to put in "-land -range" which will stop advertisements
> for land rovers and range rovers appearing in the search results.
>
> James.
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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From rover2000nut at hotmail.com  Sat Jun  5 16:42:53 2010
From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 21:42:53 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S brake light switch
Message-ID: <BAY119-W141A5FE723827032B10804DED30@phx.gbl>

Hi all......

My brake lights stopped working on my 3500S NADA so testing the brake light switch at the brake pedal.... it was no good........I've got another from the UK. but if anyone needs one or a spare i've got a deal for you.......Atlanta Imported Auto Parts in Decatur, GA. has a website ....EnglishParts.com........They have Lucas 39218 switches which was the correct one....They have 4 left @$9.00US a piece ...usually$31.00......Of course they being polite Yanks refused to ship to me in Canada unless i bought $100.00 worth of anything........#$#&%$#?....too bad for me but anyone in the USA this is a good deal.....I paid 14 pound sterling plus 10 million pound for shipping........Just search Lucas #39218.......Jag Eypes and XJ6's use the same one......Maybe someone would be nice and buy all 4 and sell me one for say$10.00US plus shipping so i have a spare

WE ROVER OWNERS NEED LOVE UP IN CANADA TOO EH!

Thanks

Bill Robertson

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From kkinard at att.net  Sat Jun  5 18:21:03 2010
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 18:21:03 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S brake light switch
References: <BAY119-W141A5FE723827032B10804DED30@phx.gbl>

Hi Bill,
Now I know what to charge for the ones I have...I was wondering what
those switches fit.

Roverly,
Kent K
> Hi all......
>
>              My brake lights stopped working on my 3500S NADA so testing the brake light switch at the brake pedal.... it was no good........I've got another from the UK. but if anyone needs one or a spare i've got a deal for you.......Atlanta Imported Auto Parts in Decatur, GA. has a website ....EnglishParts.com........They have Lucas 39218 switches which was the correct one....They have 4 left @$9.00US a piece ...usually$31.00......Of course they being polite Yanks refused to ship to me in Canada unless i bought $100.00 worth of anything........#$#&%$#?....too bad for me but anyone in the USA this is a good deal.....I paid 14 pound sterling plus 10 million pound for shipping........Just search Lucas #39218.......Jag Eypes and XJ6's use the same one......Maybe someone would be nice and buy all 4 and sell me one for say$10.00US plus shipping so i have a spare
>
> WE ROVER OWNERS NEED LOVE UP IN CANADA TOO EH!
>
> Thanks
>
> Bill Robertson
>
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com  Sat Jun  5 20:51:39 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 18:51:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S brake light switch
Message-ID: <708821.82031.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Might this be <kinardrovers.com>  ?    ROFLMHO

Eric

"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975

--- On Sat, 6/5/10, Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> wrote:

> From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] 3500S brake light switch
> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Saturday, June 5, 2010, 4:21 PM
>
> Hi Bill,
> Now I know what to charge for the ones I have...I was
> wondering what
> those switches fit.
>
> Roverly,
> Kent K
> > Hi all......
> >
> >? ? ? ? ? ? ? My
> brake lights stopped working on my 3500S NADA so testing the
> brake light switch at the brake pedal.... it was no
> good........I've got another from the UK. but if anyone
> needs one or a spare i've got a deal for you.......Atlanta
> Imported Auto Parts in Decatur, GA. has a website
> ....EnglishParts.com........They have Lucas 39218 switches
> which was the correct one....They have 4 left @$9.00US a > piece ...usually$31.00......Of course they being polite
> Yanks refused to ship to me in Canada unless i bought
> $100.00 worth of anything........#$#&%$#?....too bad for > me but anyone in the USA this is a good deal.....I paid 14 > pound sterling plus 10 million pound for > shipping........Just search Lucas #39218.......Jag Eypes and > XJ6's use the same one......Maybe someone would be nice and > buy all 4 and sell me one for say$10.00US plus shipping so
> i have a spare
> >
> > WE ROVER OWNERS NEED LOVE UP IN CANADA TOO EH!
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Bill Robertson
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From slatskars at comcast.net  Sun Jun  6 00:54:53 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 05:54:53 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <1171297555.619191275803693883.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Steven,

Very sorry to hear about that, after all that you went through, including shipping it from Oregon. Sounds like the mechanical bits are good if you can find a solid shell to transfer the parts over. I have a 74 MGB that had been in a minor accident before I bought it (right front corner). It had just the front half of the fender replaced and was a very poor job. I fought it for several years, driving it in the meantime and gradually upgrading it. Finally, I bit the bullet and took it to a frame shop for an estimate. The right side was pushed back 33 mm. I asked how much to fix it and was very pleasantly surprised that the total cost was $275, which included the laser diagnostic. The car is now within 1 mm of perfect, new fender and new paint. I have kicked myself many times for waiting so long to take it in, dreading the price. You never know unless you try! Slats ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Dibdin" <sdibdin at hotmail.com> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2010 7:32:33 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Rovernet ] Sad news Well I have comprehesively killed 2000TC with aid of a slipped foot a ? tree and 15 mph. I am fine albeit with a painful chest. But I fear ? Rolly's base unit is twisted so badly that the front passenger door is ? jammed shut. The gearbox is jammed in first and the front screen is ? badly cracked. I am feeling very sorry for myself right now not to mention that I'm ? feeling stupid. Cheers all for all your help and advice over the last five years of ? Rover ownership. I wouldn't have been able to do this with everyones ? help and encouragement. Kind regards, Steven Dibdin To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. 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Cheers Roger -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100606/81b51762/attachment.html> From vmitps at netspace.net.au Sun Jun 6 03:40:18 2010 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 18:40:18 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC Brakes sticking In-Reply-To: <003201cb054d$5924dd80$0100000a@owner1b4c6f2cf> References: <003201cb054d$5924dd80$0100000a@owner1b4c6f2cf> Message-ID: <307A05A3BA164B8488DC8F952AC00C08@Vista> Check routing of rear hoses - the feed from the base unit goes to the top hole of the right caliper. Then I would check front hoses, if they look ok problem is more likely in booster. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: "roger matheson" <roger.matheson at bigpond.com> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 5:53 PM Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC Brakes sticking > Hi All > > My brakes are sticking slightly, and I would be glad of advice on > rectification. I have a early 70's 2000 manual with a pressure brake > light switch. I have just replaced the rear pads and the callipers appear > to be working correctly. The rear hoses appear to be relatively new. I > am happy to change the master cylinder, booster and front hoses, but what > should I do first ?? > > Cheers Roger > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100606/81b51762/attachment.html> > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be > sure to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca From dcduk at tiscali.co.uk Sun Jun 6 04:28:42 2010 From: dcduk at tiscali.co.uk (rich jones) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:28:42 +0100 Subject: [Rovernet ] Wanted! 3500S References: <A873870F1D664471B2FFBA80C4D4117A@richc2upoimqhi> <4C098AA8.9000900@att.net> Message-ID: <2302F1BB12844D0DAD7CEC76619F5EC2@richc2upoimqhi> Hi Kent, I wonder if you could send me some details in reference to your car Kind regards Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at att.net> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 12:22 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Wanted! 3500S > Hi Rich, > I have one that I would sell. > > Roverly, > Kent Kinard > San Antonio, Texas USA > > rich jones wrote: >> Hi all, I may have emailed a couple of you guys individually in the past >> to help me locate a rover 3500S NADA, unfortunately no joy, hence a more >> global approach through Rovernet. >> I am UK based collector of P6B's now seeking good honest 3500S's with >> original engines and transmissions. Structurely sound, paintwork not a >> issue as long it has the same colour scheme for which it was intended. >> Anything from a derelict salvageable car through to a potential show >> winner. Please help! Have virtually exhausted every avenue. >> kind regards >> Rich Jones >> dcduk at tiscali.co.uk >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL:<http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100604/f92bcdff/attachment.html> >> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be >> sure to scroll down the whole page. >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> >> > > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be > sure to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2917 - Release Date: 06/04/10 07:25:00 From kkinard at att.net Sun Jun 6 06:28:22 2010 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 06:28:22 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet ] Wanted! 3500S In-Reply-To: <2302F1BB12844D0DAD7CEC76619F5EC2@richc2upoimqhi> References: <A873870F1D664471B2FFBA80C4D4117A@richc2upoimqhi> <4C098AA8.9000900@att.net> <2302F1BB12844D0DAD7CEC76619F5EC2@richc2upoimqhi> Message-ID: <4C0B8656.3050202@att.net> Hi Rich, Yes. I have been at annual conference all week in Corpus Christi and have not yet had a chance to sit down and do a detailed description. It being Sunday morning here, I will try to get back to you late this evening. I want to send a few pictures of the problem areas, but will have to make a trip out to the shop to take them. I would be driving this car if it were not for the bad rear main seal which is leaking really badly. The base unit has never had a speck of rust. The wings all need some work. Car is tobacco leaf with buckskin. More later. Roverly, Kent K. rich jones wrote: > Hi Kent, I wonder if you could send me some details in reference to > your car > Kind regards > Rich > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at att.net> > To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 12:22 AM > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Wanted! 3500S > > >> Hi Rich, >> I have one that I would sell. >> >> Roverly, >> Kent Kinard >> San Antonio, Texas USA >> >> rich jones wrote: >>> Hi all, I may have emailed a couple of you guys individually in the >>> past to help me locate a rover 3500S NADA, unfortunately no joy, >>> hence a more global approach through Rovernet. >>> I am UK based collector of P6B's now seeking good honest 3500S's >>> with original engines and transmissions. Structurely sound, >>> paintwork not a issue as long it has the same colour scheme for >>> which it was intended. 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Hi Roger
I would change the front flex hoses and , since you have to bleed the
system, flush out all the old fluid . If that fails change the rear hoses
before starting on the expensive bits
Cheers
Patrick

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Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC Brakes sticking

Hi All

My brakes are sticking slightly, and I would be glad of advice on
rectification.  I have a early 70's 2000 manual with a pressure brake light
switch.  I have just replaced the rear pads and the callipers appear to be
working correctly.  The rear hoses appear to be relatively new.  I am happy
to change the master cylinder, booster and front hoses, but what should I do
first ??

Cheers Roger
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From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com  Sun Jun  6 08:41:34 2010
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 09:41:34 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Sticking brakes.
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> My brakes are sticking slightly, and I would be glad of advice on rectification.  I have a early 70's 2000 manual with a pressure brake light switch.  I have just replaced the rear pads and the callipers appear to be working correctly.  The rear hoses appear to be relatively new.  I am happy to change the master cylinder, booster and front hoses, but what should I do first ??
>
> Cheers Roger
***************************
The brakes always were slow to release on my Rover 2000 automatic. This was cured when the booster was rebuilt. On my Rover 2000 TC I have just changed out the brake fluid to Castrol LMA, from a US Dot 3 silicone fluid. The brakes used to stick on sometimes, and I would reapply them and they would then release. I am thinking that maybe one of the rubber seals was a bit enlarged from having the incorrect brake fluid in the system. It seems to be good now, although I would like to do a bit more driving to make sure that it does not happen again.

James.

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From sdibdin at hotmail.com  Sun Jun  6 08:45:16 2010
From: sdibdin at hotmail.com (Steven Dibdin)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 09:45:16 -0400
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Hi Slats

Thanks for the email. I've asked Dirl if his body guy can take a look
the car. If I'm lucky I may be abl to save it. I guess I'm not 100%
happy with the idea of a reshell because I knew the history of this
car and I wanted to keep  it's ID. Well I should hear from the
insurence assesor ad Dorks chap this coming week. I'll keep you posted.

Cheers,

Steven

On Jun 6, 2010, at 1:54 AM, slatskars at comcast.net wrote:

>
>
> Steven,
>
>
>
> Very sorry to hear about that, after all that you went through,
> including shipping it from Oregon. Sounds like the mechanical bits
> are good if you can find a solid shell to transfer the parts over. I
> have a 74 MGB that had been in a minor accident before I bought it
> (right front corner). It had just the front half of the fender
> replaced and was a very poor job. I fought it for several years,
> driving it in the meantime and gradually upgrading it. Finally, I
> bit the bullet and took it to a frame shop for an estimate. The
> right side was pushed back 33 mm. I asked how much to fix it and was
> very pleasantly surprised that the total cost was $275, which > included the laser diagnostic. The car is now within 1 mm of > perfect, new fender and new paint. I have kicked myself many times > for waiting so long to take it in, dreading the price. You never > know unless you try! > > > > Slats > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steven Dibdin" <sdibdin at hotmail.com> > To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2010 7:32:33 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: [Rovernet ] Sad news > > Well I have comprehesively killed 2000TC with aid of a slipped foot a > tree and 15 mph. I am fine albeit with a painful chest. But I fear > Rolly's base unit is twisted so badly that the front passenger door is > jammed shut. The gearbox is jammed in first and the front screen is > badly cracked. > > I am feeling very sorry for myself right now not to mention that I'm > feeling stupid. > > Cheers all for all your help and advice over the last five years of > Rover ownership. I wouldn't have been able to do this with everyones > help and encouragement. > > Kind regards, > > Steven Dibdin > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. > Be sure to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100606/80ff38ea/attachment.html > > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. > Be sure to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca From phing at videotron.ca Sun Jun 6 09:01:44 2010 From: phing at videotron.ca (Patrick Hiron) Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 10:01:44 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC Brakes sticking Silicone fluid In-Reply-To: <003201cb054d$5924dd80$0100000a@owner1b4c6f2cf> References: <003201cb054d$5924dd80$0100000a@owner1b4c6f2cf> Message-ID: <000501cb0580$cbc24390$6346cab0$@ca>

Hi Roger
I bought a new OEM master cylinder, the bit which is attached to the brake
pedal , for my P6B at enormous cost [ weight of cylinder  x price of gold =
cost of unit!!]. There was a big sticker on the bag which stated Silicone
brake fluid should NOT be used !
Cheers
Patrick

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Behalf Of roger matheson
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 3:53 AM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC Brakes sticking

Hi All

My brakes are sticking slightly, and I would be glad of advice on
rectification.  I have a early 70's 2000 manual with a pressure brake light
switch.  I have just replaced the rear pads and the callipers appear to be
working correctly.  The rear hoses appear to be relatively new.  I am happy
to change the master cylinder, booster and front hoses, but what should I do
first ??

Cheers Roger
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From sdibdin at hotmail.com  Sun Jun  6 09:11:46 2010
From: sdibdin at hotmail.com (Steven Dibdin)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:11:46 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC Brakes sticking Silicone fluid
In-Reply-To: <000501cb0580$cbc24390$6346cab0$@ca> References: <003201cb054d$5924dd80$0100000a@owner1b4c6f2cf> <000501cb0580$cbc24390$6346cab0$@ca>

Hi Patrick

Yes I did. Sorry wasn't firing on all cylinders earlier. Codeine
knocked me some.

I'm hoping that I cab save Rolly at this point. Not sure how much
you're asking for on your car but it is an interesting idea. Just not
sure if I could afford it. Not mention being very keen on getting all
my hard work back with my rover being repaired.

I'll keep you posted,

Steven

On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:01 AM, Patrick Hiron <phing at videotron.ca> wrote:

> Hi Roger
> I bought a new OEM master cylinder, the bit which is attached to the
> brake
> pedal , for my P6B at enormous cost [ weight of cylinder  x price of
> gold =
> cost of unit!!]. There was a big sticker on the bag which stated
> Silicone
> brake fluid should NOT be used !
> Cheers
> Patrick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-
> bounces at rovernet.ca] On
> Behalf Of roger matheson
> Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 3:53 AM
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC Brakes sticking
>
> Hi All
>
> My brakes are sticking slightly, and I would be glad of advice on
> rectification.  I have a early 70's 2000 manual with a pressure
> brake light
> switch.  I have just replaced the rear pads and the callipers appear
> to be
> working correctly.  The rear hoses appear to be relatively new.  I
> am happy
> to change the master cylinder, booster and front hoses, but what
> should I do
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From paterson.dave at sympatico.ca  Sun Jun  6 09:54:58 2010
From: paterson.dave at sympatico.ca (DAVID PATERSON)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:54:58 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] 1968 P6
Message-ID: <SNT139-w37D5F3A29CD69FCA4B25289D40@phx.gbl>

I have been told by She-Who-Must-be-Obeyed that I have to get rid of my 1968 P6 2000 automatic.  It has been sitting in my garage since 2002 when an electrical fault prevented it from starting.  I haven?t had the time nor the electrical skills to fix it and there is nobody in the area who will work on British vehicles.  I bought the car in 1995 in Victoria B.C. and drove it back to Guelph.  In 1999 it was converted to a TC with a noticeable improvement in power.  The car is is white with a red interior. The body is sound and in good shape.   The interior is clean and the leather is in good condition (I?ve treated it every year), with the exception of the tops of the rear seats, which have been sun-damaged. The tires are like new and have lots of tread. I've been asked to include it in a local auction
of antique cars on the 19th of June but I thought I would see if there is any interest among other Rover enthusiasts before commiting.

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From geffandjulie at comcast.net  Sun Jun  6 11:30:24 2010
From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 09:30:24 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC Brakes sticking
In-Reply-To: <000001cb057b$61eeb020$25cc1060$@ca> References: <003201cb054d$5924dd80$0100000a@owner1b4c6f2cf> <000001cb057b$61eeb020$25cc1060$@ca>
Message-ID: <013901cb0595$9174d490$b45e7db0$@net> The bit on the front of the MC with an air inlet and spring was bad on mine, and the brakes were slow releasing. I replaced it and the brakes are ok. It pops off with no tools. Geff and Julie McCarthy 677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR 97210 503-241-8468 503-799-3809 mobile -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Patrick Hiron Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 6:23 AM To: 'The original Rovernet ...' Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC Brakes sticking Hi Roger I would change the front flex hoses and , since you have to bleed the system, flush out all the old fluid . If that fails change the rear hoses before starting on the expensive bits Cheers Patrick -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of roger matheson Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 3:53 AM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC Brakes sticking Hi All My brakes are sticking slightly, and I would be glad of advice on rectification. I have a early 70's 2000 manual with a pressure brake light switch. I have just replaced the rear pads and the callipers appear to be working correctly. The rear hoses appear to be relatively new. I am happy to change the master cylinder, booster and front hoses, but what should I do first ?? Cheers Roger -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/2010060 6/81b51762/attachment.html> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sun Jun 6 12:58:41 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC Brakes sticking In-Reply-To: <003201cb054d$5924dd80$0100000a@owner1b4c6f2cf> Message-ID: <245486.7105.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Roger, At the risk of going down the wrong road with the description you gave:... 1. Depress foot on brakes with car running and front or rear brakes remain on. ***A. Due to your ".au" address, I am thinking that you have a single braking system with one brake servo. ***B. I am believing that you have your car on jack stands and can test with the engine running >>>>Try to spin the wheels by hand >>>>If the wheels are hard to spin >>>>>>>Remove the vacuum hose as it is attached to the servo can >>>>Can you spin the wheels now? *******If so, it sounds like you have an air control valve problem >>>>Remove the white nylon cap on the air control valve >>>>Remove the white nylon plate from the air control valve >>>>Place a heavy rag over the air control valve >>>>Depress the brake pedal and capture the air control piston in the rag >>>>Do you see a rust film or brown dust on the piston? >>>>If so, the air control valve is sticking which is one cause of brakes holding on. #######I was able to execute an "in place" fix for that problem on my car instead to having to do a complete "re & re" and servo rebuild. ++++++ You didn't mention if all the wheels were sticking, just rear, or just front. Eric "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979; "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975 --- On Sun, 6/6/10, roger matheson <roger.matheson at bigpond.com> wrote: > From: roger matheson <roger.matheson at bigpond.com> > Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC Brakes sticking > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Received: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 12:53 AM > Hi All > > My brakes are sticking slightly, and I would be glad of > advice on rectification.? I have a early 70's 2000 > manual with a pressure brake light switch.? I have just > replaced the rear pads and the callipers appear to be > working correctly.? The rear hoses appear to be > relatively new.? I am happy to change the master > cylinder, booster and front hoses, but what should I do > first ?? > > Cheers Roger > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100606/81b51762/attachment.html> > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to > this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > From dcduk at tiscali.co.uk Sun Jun 6 13:45:57 2010 From: dcduk at tiscali.co.uk (rich jones) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 19:45:57 +0100 Subject: [Rovernet ] Wanted! 3500S References: <A873870F1D664471B2FFBA80C4D4117A@richc2upoimqhi> <4C098AA8.9000900@att.net><2302F1BB12844D0DAD7CEC76619F5EC2@richc2upoimqhi> <4C0B8656.3050202@att.net> Message-ID: <A4C790C2FCCE4F879C751DD8ACEB909A@richc2upoimqhi> Many thanks Kent Regards Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at att.net> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Wanted! 3500S > Hi Rich, > Yes. I have been at annual conference all week in Corpus Christi and > have not yet had a chance to sit down and do a detailed description. It > being Sunday morning here, I will try to get back to you late this > evening. I want to send a few pictures of the problem areas, but will > have to make a trip out to the shop to take them. I would be driving > this car if it were not for the bad rear main seal which is leaking > really badly. The base unit has never had a speck of rust. The wings all > need some work. Car is tobacco leaf with buckskin. More later. > Roverly, > Kent K. > > rich jones wrote: >> Hi Kent, I wonder if you could send me some details in reference to >> your car >> Kind regards >> Rich >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at att.net> >> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 12:22 AM >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Wanted! 3500S >> >> >>> Hi Rich, >>> I have one that I would sell. >>> >>> Roverly, >>> Kent Kinard >>> San Antonio, Texas USA >>> >>> rich jones wrote: >>>> Hi all, I may have emailed a couple of you guys individually in the >>>> past to help me locate a rover 3500S NADA, unfortunately no joy, >>>> hence a more global approach through Rovernet. >>>> I am UK based collector of P6B's now seeking good honest 3500S's >>>> with original engines and transmissions. Structurely sound, >>>> paintwork not a issue as long it has the same colour scheme for >>>> which it was intended. Anything from a derelict salvageable car >>>> through to a potential show winner. Please help! Have virtually >>>> exhausted every avenue. >>>> kind regards >>>> Rich Jones >>>> dcduk at tiscali.co.uk >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL:<http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100604/f92bcdff/attachment.html> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. >>>> Be sure to scroll down the whole page. >>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. >>> Be sure to scroll down the whole page. >>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2917 - Release Date: >> 06/04/10 07:25:00 >> >> >> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be >> sure to scroll down the whole page. >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> > > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be > sure to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2921 - Release Date: 06/06/10 07:25:00 From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon Jun 7 20:50:19 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:50:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet ] You wouldn't believe! Message-ID: <372988.61678.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have spent (more than a few) angry hours struggling with the Rovernet. For those on the back-up list (cover your eyes - you know the problem), I received a message from our new (I thought improved) web host JustHost.com that they had suspended the Rovernet website and the Rovernet mailing list due to a complaint from AOL.com that their (JustHost) IP address was generating SPAM. To be honest, it was not clear if a Rovernet subscriber with an AOL address had complained to AOL about an email they had received while on a volunteer-in mailing list OR AOL had picked up mailing list email (multiple receipients) to their system and decided it was SPAM. Anyway, AOL.com snapped their fingers, JustHost jumped, and Rovernet.ca was off the air with no way to contact anybody. (Gosh, I am beginning to feel like Chamberlain after the Nazis invaded Poland). "I have to tell you now that no such undertaking has been received and consequently this *mailing list* is at war with *AOL*." I was successfully able to appeal to JustHost after negociation and making a commitment to get AOL off their backs. I have had to click on the "Nomail" button for our AOL subscribers. I will copy this letter and send it to each of them by BCC copy. I am asking our AOL members to obtain another email address and resubscribe to the Rovernet. I am inclined to recommend Gmail. However, I pay Yahoo some money each year and they convert webmail to POP mail and I can read it on my "Outlook" or "Outlook Express" [or Mac equivalent). Anyway, if you know a Rovernet member who is also an AOL subscriber, please convey my condolences and apologies for this unprecidented step. This hasn't happened in 18 years or so. It looks like AOL subscribers cannot use their AOL address and subscribe to our mailing list. They could try to write to AOL.com if they like. However, with AOL being able to shut down complete access to the Rovernet AND the website from which it runs I can't manage that event happening again. Unbelievable! Eric List Admin "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979; "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979; "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975 From raymond.wilkins at bigpond.com Mon Jun 7 21:30:49 2010 From: raymond.wilkins at bigpond.com (Ray Wilkins) Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 12:30:49 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet ] You wouldn't believe! In-Reply-To: <372988.61678.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <372988.61678.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C0DAB59.3040306@bigpond.com> Thank goodness there is a valid (allbeit unwelcome) reason that my email sent yesterday was returned. I was beginning to think I was going mad. Looks like all is OK now and I will resend my message. Once again Eric you have come to our aid. Your postscript (Life of Brian) is very apt. Regards, Ray Wilkins On 8/06/2010 11:50 AM, Eric Russell wrote: > I have spent (more than a few) angry hours struggling with the Rovernet. > > For those on the back-up list (cover your eyes - you know the problem), I received a message from our new (I thought improved) web host JustHost.com that they had suspended the Rovernet website and the Rovernet mailing list due to a complaint from AOL.com that their (JustHost) IP address was generating SPAM. > > To be honest, it was not clear if a Rovernet subscriber with an AOL address had complained to AOL about an email they had received while on a volunteer-in mailing list OR AOL had picked up mailing list email (multiple receipients) to their system and decided it was SPAM. Anyway, AOL.com snapped their fingers, JustHost jumped, and Rovernet.ca was off the air with no way to contact anybody. > > (Gosh, I am beginning to feel like Chamberlain after the Nazis invaded Poland). "I have to tell you now that no such undertaking has been received and consequently this *mailing list* is at war with *AOL*." > > I was successfully able to appeal to JustHost after negociation and making a commitment to get AOL off their backs. I have had to click on the "Nomail" button for our AOL subscribers. I will copy this letter and send it to each of them by BCC copy. > > I am asking our AOL members to obtain another email address and resubscribe to the Rovernet. I am inclined to recommend Gmail. However, I pay Yahoo some money each year and they convert webmail to POP mail and I can read it on my "Outlook" or "Outlook Express" [or Mac equivalent). Anyway, if you know a Rovernet member who is also an AOL subscriber, please convey my condolences and apologies for this unprecidented step. This hasn't happened in 18 years or so. > > It looks like AOL subscribers cannot use their AOL address and subscribe to our mailing list. They could try to write to AOL.com if they like. However, with AOL being able to shut down complete access to the Rovernet AND the website from which it runs I can't manage that event happening again. > > Unbelievable! > > Eric > List Admin > > > > "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979; > "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, > "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979; > "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975 > > > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon Jun 7 22:18:24 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:18:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet ] AOL or SOL Message-ID: <859856.14825.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> As one of our ex-AOL subscribers so aptly put it, a short time ago, he thought the AOL execs should be selected to play in the Rugby Match Against the Masters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzeeaEsIFLs Eric "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979; "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975 From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon Jun 7 22:46:29 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:46:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P3 for sale ... Ontario Message-ID: <395650.95508.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Bill Robertson tried to post the following message but it got bounced. If that happened today, it was due to the trouble caused by AOL. I have included an address for him but disguised. Eric *************************************** I'm really stuck here with no room and not affording storage anymore so i'm postitively selling the P3 this time....Its a 1948 Rover 75 .....Body is great ....engine is running but rough.....gearbox is very good.....haven't had it on the road for 2 years now...just been in storage while i work on my 3500S..........The rear springs or something needs fixed as it has developed a lean in the back......the interior is presentable with custom seat covers on the front seats .......wood is in very good shape ...speedo jumps and clock doesn't work....think rest work good from what i remember....... I need anything over$5000 CND........I will put it on Ebay here in a bit if no one is serious here
Really good conversation piece at Roveramerica to say you just bought a P3.

billrobertson <at> rogers <dot> com

"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975

From rovercar at comcast.net  Tue Jun  8 01:53:56 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 02:53:56 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] AOL or SOL
References: <859856.14825.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4C0DE904.5010204@comcast.net>

My wife's aunt (who is about 85 years old) was set up with an AOL
account some years ago because it was supposed to be so easy to install
and use. She was watching her pennies, noted that AOL was charging her
$24.95 for a dial-up account, and asked me what she could do. She is in a retirement community where the management had signed an exclusive contract with Verizon Vios where imnternet access cost the fixed-income residents over$50 per month. Mind you, she only checks her email once a
week to see pictures of her grandchildren. When I take my laptop to her
apartment, there are about ten wireless accounts with full bars all the
way across. I told he to talk with a couple of her neighbors (or maybe
six of her neighbors for all they use the net) and share one wireless
account. Unfortunately, she views this as equivalent to stealing cable
tv by splicing lines in the basement.

So here's the AOL part. I signed her up with a local ISP for dial-up
service at $5.95 per month. We canceled the AOL account but continued her email address there. She refused to get rid of the AOL email account even though she only gets email from four or five people. I installed Thunderbird to download her email since she didn't want to use a web interface and tie up her phone line. Since AOL email cannot be received as POP message, I had to set up the program to deal with AOL's IMAP mode. Of course, once this is done, AOL must have full contact with your computer via the network to see if you are editing or deleting any email messages, and it gets upset if you switch off while it is accessing your files. AOL was a fantastic innovator when it arrived on the scene. I was a charter member before anyone had heard about it because I was running the GEOS operating system on my Commodore 64. At the time, I told my wife we should buy stock in AOL because it was going to change the world, but she equates the stock market with gambling. At this point in time, why anyone would cling to AOL is far beyond my ability to understand. If they end up giving up AOL to keep Rovernet, they will be better off in the end. Glen PS Eric, SOL also stands for Scions of Lucas which runs numerous British car email lists. Check them out. http://www.team.net/sol/ From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Jun 8 09:04:04 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 07:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet ] AOL or SOL In-Reply-To: <4C0DE904.5010204@comcast.net> Message-ID: <663613.28961.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hmm,..... very interesting read as always, Glen. Yes, SOL.... Standards of Learning if you are in education Seems Only Likely for SMS users Shouting Out Loud for email or Twitter folk Sons of Lucifer ........ getting closer :-) Eric "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979; "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975 --- On Mon, 6/7/10, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote: > From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] AOL or SOL > To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Received: Monday, June 7, 2010, 11:53 PM > > My wife's aunt (who is about 85 years old) was set up with > an AOL account some years ago because it was supposed to be > so easy to install and use. She was watching her pennies, > noted that AOL was charging her$24.95 for a dial-up
> account, and asked me what she could do. She is in a
> retirement community where the management had signed an
> exclusive contract with Verizon Vios where imnternet access
> cost the fixed-income residents over $50 per month. Mind > you, she only checks her email once a week to see pictures > of her grandchildren. When I take my laptop to her > apartment, there are about ten wireless accounts with full > bars all the way across. I told he to talk with a couple of > her neighbors (or maybe six of her neighbors for all they > use the net) and share one wireless account. Unfortunately, > she views this as equivalent to stealing cable tv by > splicing lines in the basement. > > So here's the AOL part. I signed her up with a local ISP > for dial-up service at$5.95 per month. We canceled the AOL
> account but continued her email address there. She refused
> to get rid of the AOL email account even though she only
> gets email from four or five people. I installed Thunderbird
> to download her email since she didn't want to use a web
> interface and tie up her phone line. Since AOL email cannot
> be received as POP message, I had to set up the program to
> deal with AOL's IMAP mode. Of course, once this is done, AOL
> must have full contact with your computer via the network to
> see if you are editing or deleting any email messages, and
> it gets upset if you switch off while it is accessing your
> files.
>
> AOL was a fantastic innovator when it arrived on the scene.
> I was a charter member before anyone had heard about it
> because I was running the GEOS operating system on my
> Commodore 64. At the time, I told my wife we should buy
> stock in AOL because it was going to change the world, but
> she equates the stock market with gambling. At this point in
> time, why anyone would cling to AOL is far beyond my ability
> to understand. If they end up giving up AOL to keep
> Rovernet, they will be better off in the end.
>
> Glen
>
> PS? Eric, SOL also stands for Scions of Lucas which
> runs numerous British car email lists. Check them
> out.???http://www.team.net/sol/
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>

From p6rovers at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  8 09:23:04 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 07:23:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Message to AOL subscribers on the Rovernet.
Message-ID: <454897.34062.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Message to AOL subscribers on the Rovernet.

Yesterday, I wrote to explain how a complaint of SPAM from the Rovernet mailing list to an AOL subscriber or to the AOL system triggered a shut-down of the whole of the Rovernet website and Rovernet Mailing list.

It is not known if an AOL subscriber complained about a Rovernet message he had already agreed to receive or the AOL system reacted to a message being part of a stream to a variety of customers.

The mailing list concept is our core service.

We can't afford to have AOL.com react without logic toward the Rovernet again. I have given AOL members a bit of time to change to another address. However, we can't afford another mistake where AOL receives another email from the Rovernet and shuts us down again.

On our web page for the Rovernet, I have suggested some other free email services and even options for a premium service which will deliver web-based email to your POP account. That info can be found here:
http://www.rovernet.ca/

This morning I thought it best to unsubscribe AOL users from the Rovernet and hope that you each rejoin with another address. If your annoyance matches mine from yesterday, we might not see you again. That would be too bad. AOL won.

Warmest regards,

Eric Russell
List owner and Manager

"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975

From badrickt at gmail.com  Tue Jun  8 09:33:54 2010
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 07:33:54 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Message to AOL subscribers on the Rovernet.
References: <454897.34062.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin68tE7A2ZOPMRyX0KGrN_V0psOMuNhlm-ZJJ51@mail.gmail.com>

As one of those subscribers I want to thank Eric for all his efforts here to
help transition us and for dealing with the crap from AOL.

Tom
"he's not dead, he's pining for the fields"

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Message to AOL subscribers on the Rovernet.
>
> Yesterday, I wrote to explain how a complaint of SPAM from the Rovernet
> mailing list to an AOL subscriber or to the AOL system triggered a shut-down
> of the whole of the Rovernet website and Rovernet Mailing list.
>
> It is not known if an AOL subscriber complained about a Rovernet message he
> part of a stream to a variety of customers.
>
> The mailing list concept is our core service.
>
> We can't afford to have AOL.com react without logic toward the Rovernet
> again. I have given AOL members a bit of time to change to another address.
> However, we can't afford another mistake where AOL receives another email
> from the Rovernet and shuts us down again.
>
> On our web page for the Rovernet, I have suggested some other free email
> services and even options for a premium service which will deliver web-based
> email to your POP account. That info can be found here:
> http://www.rovernet.ca/
>
> This morning I thought it best to unsubscribe AOL users from the Rovernet
> and hope that you each rejoin with another address. If your annoyance
> matches mine from yesterday, we might not see you again. That would be too
>
> Warmest regards,
>
> Eric Russell
> List owner and Manager
>
>
> "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
> "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
>
>
>
> to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
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From rovercar at comcast.net  Tue Jun  8 10:16:54 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 11:16:54 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Message to AOL subscribers on the Rovernet.
References: <454897.34062.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<AANLkTin68tE7A2ZOPMRyX0KGrN_V0psOMuNhlm-ZJJ51@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C0E5EE6.5010008@comcast.net>

On 06/08/2010 10:33 AM, Tom Badrick wrote:
> As one of those subscribers I want to thank Eric for all his efforts here to
> help transition us and for dealing with the crap from AOL.
>
> Tom
> "he's not dead, he's pining for the fields"
>

That's pining for the fyords, Tom. The parrot is a Norwegian Blue.
Beautiful plumage.

;-)

Glen

From phing at videotron.ca  Tue Jun  8 10:24:44 2010
From: phing at videotron.ca (Patrick Hiron)
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 11:24:44 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] AOL or SOL
References: <4C0DE904.5010204@comcast.net>
<663613.28961.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000301cb071e$b92f76e0$2b8e64a0$@ca> Eric In rude engineering speak SOL = "S++t out of luck" , which summarises the plight of rover netters with AOL ? AOL sounds like an unmentionable social condition ?? Cheers Patrick [ prisoner of Videotron ] -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Eric Russell Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 10:04 AM To: The original Rovernet ... Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] AOL or SOL Hmm,..... very interesting read as always, Glen. Yes, SOL.... Standards of Learning if you are in education Seems Only Likely for SMS users Shouting Out Loud for email or Twitter folk Sons of Lucifer ........ getting closer :-) Eric "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979; "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975 --- On Mon, 6/7/10, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote: > From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] AOL or SOL > To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Received: Monday, June 7, 2010, 11:53 PM > > My wife's aunt (who is about 85 years old) was set up with > an AOL account some years ago because it was supposed to be > so easy to install and use. She was watching her pennies, > noted that AOL was charging her$24.95 for a dial-up
> account, and asked me what she could do. She is in a
> retirement community where the management had signed an
> exclusive contract with Verizon Vios where imnternet access
> cost the fixed-income residents over $50 per month. Mind > you, she only checks her email once a week to see pictures > of her grandchildren. When I take my laptop to her > apartment, there are about ten wireless accounts with full > bars all the way across. I told he to talk with a couple of > her neighbors (or maybe six of her neighbors for all they > use the net) and share one wireless account. Unfortunately, > she views this as equivalent to stealing cable tv by > splicing lines in the basement. > > So here's the AOL part. I signed her up with a local ISP > for dial-up service at$5.95 per month. We canceled the AOL
> account but continued her email address there. She refused
> to get rid of the AOL email account even though she only
> gets email from four or five people. I installed Thunderbird
> to download her email since she didn't want to use a web
> interface and tie up her phone line. Since AOL email cannot
> be received as POP message, I had to set up the program to
> deal with AOL's IMAP mode. Of course, once this is done, AOL
> must have full contact with your computer via the network to
> see if you are editing or deleting any email messages, and
> it gets upset if you switch off while it is accessing your
> files.
>
> AOL was a fantastic innovator when it arrived on the scene.
> I was a charter member before anyone had heard about it
> because I was running the GEOS operating system on my
> Commodore 64. At the time, I told my wife we should buy
> stock in AOL because it was going to change the world, but
> she equates the stock market with gambling. At this point in
> time, why anyone would cling to AOL is far beyond my ability
> to understand. If they end up giving up AOL to keep
> Rovernet, they will be better off in the end.
>
> Glen
>
> PS? Eric, SOL also stands for Scions of Lucas which
> runs numerous British car email lists. Check them
> out.???http://www.team.net/sol/
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>

to scroll down the whole page.
http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca

From phing at videotron.ca  Tue Jun  8 10:29:21 2010
From: phing at videotron.ca (Patrick Hiron)
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 11:29:21 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Message to AOL subscribers on the Rovernet.
References: <454897.34062.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<AANLkTin68tE7A2ZOPMRyX0KGrN_V0psOMuNhlm-ZJJ51@mail.gmail.com>
<4C0E5EE6.5010008@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000401cb071f$5e1cfdd0$1a56f970$@ca> Glen If you want to nit pick others' contributions ,at least get it right ! It's actually "Fiords" Cheers Patrick -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Glen Wilson Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 11:17 AM To: The original Rovernet ... Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Message to AOL subscribers on the Rovernet. On 06/08/2010 10:33 AM, Tom Badrick wrote: > As one of those subscribers I want to thank Eric for all his efforts here to > help transition us and for dealing with the crap from AOL. > > Tom > "he's not dead, he's pining for the fields" > That's pining for the fyords, Tom. The parrot is a Norwegian Blue. Beautiful plumage. ;-) Glen To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Tue Jun 8 10:36:39 2010 From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:36:39 +0000 Subject: [Rovernet ] 1948 Rover 75 P3 for sale Message-ID: <BAY119-W159B68061AB1F97A452B95DED60@phx.gbl> I feel bad for Eric as he's putting up with a lot with the Rovernet but thanks for physically putting my message on ...here it is again I'm really stuck here with no room and not affording storage anymore so i'm postitively selling the P3 this time....Its a 1948 Rover 75 .....Body is great ....engine is running but rough.....gearbox is very good.....haven't had it on the road for 2 years now...just been in storage while i work on my 3500S..........The rear springs or something needs fixed as it has developed a lean in the back......the interior is presentable with custom seat covers on the front seats .......wood is in very good shape ...speedo jumps and clock doesn't work....think rest work good from what i remember....... I need anything over$5000 CND........I will put it on Ebay here in a bit if no one is serious here
Really good conversation piece at Roveramerica to say you just bought a P3

Cheers
Bill Robertson

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From p6rovers at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  8 10:52:47 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 08:52:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] AOL or SOL
In-Reply-To: <000301cb071e$b92f76e0$2b8e64a0$@ca> Message-ID: <640858.40123.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Patrick, Yes,.... but you *are* out on day passes now ;-) Eric "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979; "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975 --- On Tue, 6/8/10, Patrick Hiron <phing at videotron.ca> wrote: > From: Patrick Hiron <phing at videotron.ca> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] AOL or SOL > To: "'The original Rovernet ...'" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Received: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 8:24 AM > Eric > In rude engineering speak SOL = "S++t out of luck" , which > summarises the > plight of rover netters with AOL ? > AOL sounds like an unmentionable social condition ?? > Cheers > Patrick [ prisoner of Videotron ] > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > On > Behalf Of Eric Russell > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 10:04 AM > To: The original Rovernet ... > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] AOL or SOL > > Hmm,..... very interesting read as always, Glen. > > Yes, SOL.... > Standards of Learning if you are in education > Seems Only Likely for SMS users > Shouting Out Loud for email or Twitter folk > Sons of Lucifer ........ getting closer? :-) > > Eric > > > > > "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, > 1979; > "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, > 1975 > > > --- On Mon, 6/7/10, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> > wrote: > > > From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> > > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] AOL or SOL > > To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > > Received: Monday, June 7, 2010, 11:53 PM > > > > My wife's aunt (who is about 85 years old) was set up > with > > an AOL account some years ago because it was supposed > to be > > so easy to install and use. She was watching her > pennies, > > noted that AOL was charging her$24.95 for a dial-up
> > account, and asked me what she could do. She is in a
> > retirement community where the management had signed
> an
> > exclusive contract with Verizon Vios where imnternet
> access
> > cost the fixed-income residents over $50 per month. > Mind > > you, she only checks her email once a week to see > pictures > > of her grandchildren. When I take my laptop to her > > apartment, there are about ten wireless accounts with > full > > bars all the way across. I told he to talk with a > couple of > > her neighbors (or maybe six of her neighbors for all > they > > use the net) and share one wireless account. > Unfortunately, > > she views this as equivalent to stealing cable tv by > > splicing lines in the basement. > > > > So here's the AOL part. I signed her up with a local > ISP > > for dial-up service at$5.95 per month. We canceled
> the AOL
> > account but continued her email address there. She
> refused
> > to get rid of the AOL email account even though she
> only
> > gets email from four or five people. I installed
> Thunderbird
> > to download her email since she didn't want to use a
> web
> > interface and tie up her phone line. Since AOL email
> cannot
> > be received as POP message, I had to set up the
> program to
> > deal with AOL's IMAP mode. Of course, once this is
> done, AOL
> > must have full contact with your computer via the
> network to
> > see if you are editing or deleting any email messages,
> and
> > it gets upset if you switch off while it is accessing
> your
> > files.
> >
> > AOL was a fantastic innovator when it arrived on the
> scene.
> > I was a charter member before anyone had heard about
> it
> > because I was running the GEOS operating system on my
> > Commodore 64. At the time, I told my wife we should
> > stock in AOL because it was going to change the world,
> but
> > she equates the stock market with gambling. At this
> point in
> > time, why anyone would cling to AOL is far beyond my
> ability
> > to understand. If they end up giving up AOL to keep
> > Rovernet, they will be better off in the end.
> >
> > Glen
> >
> > PS? Eric, SOL also stands for Scions of Lucas which
> > runs numerous British car email lists. Check them
> > out.???http://www.team.net/sol/
> >
> > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go
> to
> > this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
> >
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to
> to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to
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From rovercar at comcast.net  Tue Jun  8 12:06:50 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:06:50 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Message to AOL subscribers on the Rovernet.
In-Reply-To: <000401cb071f$5e1cfdd0$1a56f970$@ca> References: <454897.34062.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <AANLkTin68tE7A2ZOPMRyX0KGrN_V0psOMuNhlm-ZJJ51@mail.gmail.com> <4C0E5EE6.5010008@comcast.net> <000401cb071f$5e1cfdd0$1a56f970$@ca>
Message-ID: <4C0E78AA.4080801@comcast.net>

On 06/08/2010 11:29 AM, Patrick Hiron wrote:
> Glen
> If you want to nit pick others' contributions ,at least get it right !
>   It's actually "Fiords"
> Cheers
>   Patrick
>
Actually, I wasn't sure about the spelling, so I did a quick Google and
glanced at the results for "fyord." It seems that word does apply to the
formations in Norway - as all of our Indonesian members would
immediately recognize. (Apparently, that's the way they spell it...)

;-)

"Fjord" might be the most accurate spelling!

Glen

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
> Behalf Of Glen Wilson
> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 11:17 AM
> To: The original Rovernet ...
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Message to AOL subscribers on the Rovernet.
>
> On 06/08/2010 10:33 AM, Tom Badrick wrote:
>
>> As one of those subscribers I want to thank Eric for all his efforts here
>>
> to
>
>> help transition us and for dealing with the crap from AOL.
>>
>> Tom
>> "he's not dead, he's pining for the fields"
>>
>>
> That's pining for the fyords, Tom. The parrot is a Norwegian Blue.
> Beautiful plumage.
>
> ;-)
>
> Glen
>
>
> to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
>

From smokeandsteam at gmail.com  Tue Jun  8 12:26:42 2010
From: smokeandsteam at gmail.com (Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 10:26:42 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Message to AOL subscribers on the Rovernet.
References: <454897.34062.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<AANLkTin68tE7A2ZOPMRyX0KGrN_V0psOMuNhlm-ZJJ51@mail.gmail.com>
<4C0E5EE6.5010008@comcast.net> <000401cb071f$5e1cfdd0$1a56f970$@ca> <4C0E78AA.4080801@comcast.net> Message-ID: <AANLkTinBX_DiDFoEZs_RZrWeAosMeRoNKIyqsOGjqihb@mail.gmail.com> "Look at me - I design coastlines. I got an award for Norway. Where's the sense in that? None that I've been able to make out. I've been doing fjords all my life... for a fleeting moment they become fashionable and I get a major award. In this replacement Earth we are building they've given me Africa to do and of course I'm doing it all with fjords again, because I happen to like them and I'm old fashioned enough to think that they give a lovely baroque feel to the continent. And they tell me it's not equatorial enough." Slartibartfast of Magrathea On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote: > "Fjord" might be the most accurate spelling! > > Glen > From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Tue Jun 8 15:07:56 2010 From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 22:07:56 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet ] R: MG B on e-bay In-Reply-To: <4C0E78AA.4080801@comcast.net> References: <454897.34062.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <AANLkTin68tE7A2ZOPMRyX0KGrN_V0psOMuNhlm-ZJJ51@mail.gmail.com> <4C0E5EE6.5010008@comcast.net><000401cb071f$5e1cfdd0$1a56f970$@ca>
<4C0E78AA.4080801@comcast.net>

Any ideas?
I could be interested.

I should drive it back to Italy!

Best regards, Gianluca.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270588216969&fromMa

THIS COULD BE THE PROBLEM.

The dash is good, all gauges work ( the speedo sometimes takes a few
miles to wake up ) but the heater fan doesn't. Everything else,
including the clock, stereo and light is fine. The padded roll over the
dash is starting to disintegrate in one corner (see photo), you may also
notice a small crack in the windscreen here that is covered by the
owner's club sticker. This hasn't been a problem at MOT time.

sure to scroll down the whole page.
http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca

From rovercar at comcast.net  Tue Jun  8 16:01:12 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 17:01:12 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Message to AOL subscribers on the Rovernet.
Message-ID: <4C0EAF98.1000105@comcast.net>

There, you have it: fjords. Having seen the BBC version, listened to it
on the radio and watched the recent movie, I still haven't read all the
books. Just the other day, I was wondering how to spell Slartibartfast.
And now I know, thanks to a most excellent steam-powered list member.

;-)

GW

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Re: [Rovernet ] Message to AOL subscribers on the Rovernet.
Date: 	Tue, 8 Jun 2010 10:26:42 -0700
From: 	Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton <smokeandsteam at gmail.com>
Reply-To: 	The original Rovernet ... <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
To: 	The original Rovernet ... <rovernet at rovernet.ca>

"Look at me - I design coastlines. I got an award for Norway. Where's
the sense in that? None that I've been able to make out. I've been
doing fjords all my life... for a fleeting moment they become
fashionable and I get a major award. In this replacement Earth we are
building they've given me Africa to do and of course I'm doing it all
with fjords again, because I happen to like them and I'm old fashioned
enough to think that they give a lovely baroque feel to the continent.
And they tell me it's not equatorial enough."

Slartibartfast of Magrathea

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Glen Wilson<rovercar at comcast.net>  wrote:

>  "Fjord" might be the most accurate spelling!
>
>  Glen
>

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From kkinard at att.net  Tue Jun  8 17:40:28 2010
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 17:40:28 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] R:  MG B on e-bay
References: <454897.34062.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<AANLkTin68tE7A2ZOPMRyX0KGrN_V0psOMuNhlm-ZJJ51@mail.gmail.com>	<4C0E5EE6.5010008@comcast.net><000401cb071f$5e1cfdd0$1a56f970$@ca> <4C0E78AA.4080801@comcast.net> <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B95960E16F1@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel> Message-ID: <4C0EC6DC.2060402@att.net> gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com wrote: > > > Any ideas? > I could be interested. > > I should drive it back to Italy! > > Thanks in advance. > > Best regards, Gianluca. > Not a bad price if it's that nice, but those bumpers are so ugly and the steering wheel is on the wrong side:-) Send me the name of your friend in US who wants 3500S (manual transmission). Roverly, Kent K. From kkinard at att.net Tue Jun 8 17:46:34 2010 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 17:46:34 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet ] OT Fjords Fiords Fords? In-Reply-To: <4C0EAF98.1000105@comcast.net> References: <4C0EAF98.1000105@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4C0EC84A.1070901@att.net> Glen Wilson wrote: > There, you have it: fjords. Having seen the BBC version, listened to > it on the radio and watched the recent movie, I still haven't read all > the books. Just the other day, I was wondering how to spell > Slartibartfast. And now I know, thanks to a most excellent > steam-powered list member. However they are spelled, the best ones are in New Zealand. (That ought to start a war.) Jamie McPherson Milford Sound, NZ From vmitps at netspace.net.au Tue Jun 8 18:15:56 2010 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 09:15:56 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet ] Message to AOL subscribers on the Rovernet. In-Reply-To: <4C0E5EE6.5010008@comcast.net> References: <454897.34062.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com><AANLkTin68tE7A2ZOPMRyX0KGrN_V0psOMuNhlm-ZJJ51@mail.gmail.com> <4C0E5EE6.5010008@comcast.net> Message-ID: <736D3AFB86CA44769C033D3718C78BC3@Vista> Fjords. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Wilson" <rovercar at comcast.net> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 1:16 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Message to AOL subscribers on the Rovernet. > On 06/08/2010 10:33 AM, Tom Badrick wrote: >> As one of those subscribers I want to thank Eric for all his efforts here >> to >> help transition us and for dealing with the crap from AOL. >> >> Tom >> "he's not dead, he's pining for the fields" >> > > That's pining for the fyords, Tom. The parrot is a Norwegian Blue. > Beautiful plumage. > > ;-) > > Glen > > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be > sure to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Jun 8 19:56:35 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 17:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet ] Message to AOL subscribers on the Rovernet. In-Reply-To: <736D3AFB86CA44769C033D3718C78BC3@Vista> Message-ID: <215917.2556.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hey, whatever Tom wants to spell is OK by me. We have the same "MP" interest and can connect at a higher level than mere mortals :-) He used to be an "AOL" member, was the first to reply, and went on to arrange for another email address to remain with the group. Go, Tom, Go! Eric "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979; "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975 --- On Tue, 6/8/10, Netspace <vmitps at netspace.net.au> wrote: > From: Netspace <vmitps at netspace.net.au> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Message to AOL subscribers on the Rovernet. > To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Received: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 4:15 PM > Fjords. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Wilson" <rovercar at comcast.net> > To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 1:16 AM > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Message to AOL subscribers on the > Rovernet. > > > > On 06/08/2010 10:33 AM, Tom Badrick wrote: > >> As one of those subscribers I want to thank Eric > for all his efforts here to > >> help transition us and for dealing with the crap > from AOL. > >> > >> Tom > >> "he's not dead, he's pining for the fields" > >> > > > > That's pining for the fyords, Tom. The parrot is a > Norwegian Blue. Beautiful plumage. > > > > ;-) > > > > Glen > > > > > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go > to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to > this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > From vmitps at netspace.net.au Tue Jun 8 20:04:32 2010 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:04:32 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet ] Message to AOL subscribers on the Rovernet. In-Reply-To: <215917.2556.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <215917.2556.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <19904EFFC1324089817CB3FCF2AF159B@Vista> I was listening to MP records in 1975... heard the first Australian broadcast of HHGTTG (in 1979?)... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Message to AOL subscribers on the Rovernet. > Hey, whatever Tom wants to spell is OK by me. > We have the same "MP" interest and can connect at a higher level than mere > mortals :-) > > He used to be an "AOL" member, was the first to reply, and went on to > arrange for another email address to remain with the group. > > Go, Tom, Go! > > Eric > > > "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979; > "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975 > > > --- On Tue, 6/8/10, Netspace <vmitps at netspace.net.au> wrote: > >> From: Netspace <vmitps at netspace.net.au> >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Message to AOL subscribers on the Rovernet. >> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >> Received: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 4:15 PM >> Fjords. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Wilson" <rovercar at comcast.net> >> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 1:16 AM >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Message to AOL subscribers on the >> Rovernet. >> >> >> > On 06/08/2010 10:33 AM, Tom Badrick wrote: >> >> As one of those subscribers I want to thank Eric >> for all his efforts here to >> >> help transition us and for dealing with the crap >> from AOL. >> >> >> >> Tom >> >> "he's not dead, he's pining for the fields" >> >> >> > >> > That's pining for the fyords, Tom. The parrot is a >> Norwegian Blue. Beautiful plumage. >> > >> > ;-) >> > >> > Glen >> > >> > >> > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go >> to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. >> > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to >> this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> > > > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be > sure to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Jun 8 20:53:58 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 18:53:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet ] Message to AOL subscribers on the Rovernet. In-Reply-To: <19904EFFC1324089817CB3FCF2AF159B@Vista> Message-ID: <557851.86732.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> OK. You can join Tom and I in the group. "People's Front of Judea"? :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb_qHP7VaZE eric "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979; "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975 --- On Tue, 6/8/10, Netspace <vmitps at netspace.net.au> wrote: > From: Netspace <vmitps at netspace.net.au> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Message to AOL subscribers on the Rovernet. > To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Received: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 6:04 PM > I was listening to MP records in > 1975... > heard the first Australian broadcast of HHGTTG (in > 1979?)... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com> > To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 10:56 AM > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Message to AOL subscribers on the > Rovernet. > > > > Hey, whatever Tom wants to spell is OK by me. > > We have the same "MP" interest and can connect at a > higher level than mere > > mortals :-) > > > > He used to be an "AOL" member, was the first to reply, > and went on to > > arrange for another email address to remain with the > group. > > > > Go, Tom, Go! > > > > Eric > > > > > > "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of > Brian, 1979; > > "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy > Grail, 1975 > > > > > > --- On Tue, 6/8/10, Netspace <vmitps at netspace.net.au> > wrote: > > > >> From: Netspace <vmitps at netspace.net.au> > >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Message to AOL > subscribers on the Rovernet. > >> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > >> Received: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 4:15 PM > >> Fjords. > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Wilson" > <rovercar at comcast.net> > >> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 1:16 AM > >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Message to AOL > subscribers on the > >> Rovernet. > >> > >> > >> > On 06/08/2010 10:33 AM, Tom Badrick wrote: > >> >> As one of those subscribers I want to > thank Eric > >> for all his efforts here to > >> >> help transition us and for dealing with > the crap > >> from AOL. > >> >> > >> >> Tom > >> >> "he's not dead, he's pining for the > fields" > >> >> > >> > > >> > That's pining for the fyords, Tom. The parrot > is a > >> Norwegian Blue. Beautiful plumage. > >> > > >> > ;-) > >> > > >> > Glen > >> > > >> > > >> > To unsubscribe to the list or change your > settings go > >> to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole > page. > >> > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > >> > >> > >> > >> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings > go to > >> this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. > >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > >> > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go > to this page. Be > > sure to scroll down the whole page. > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to > this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > From badrickt at gmail.com Tue Jun 8 22:36:05 2010 From: badrickt at gmail.com (Tom Badrick) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 20:36:05 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet ] Message to AOL subscribers on the Rovernet. In-Reply-To: <215917.2556.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <736D3AFB86CA44769C033D3718C78BC3@Vista> <215917.2556.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <AANLkTil1IF043hBgLVsbcEoC-d7PNxnmaTqav7pWKHMa@mail.gmail.com> Bravo Eric Silly enough since I am the proud parent of 4 parrots ;-) How about I use this one instead Whats wrong with a kiss, boy? Why not start it off with a nice kiss. You don't have to go leaping straight for the.... On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote: > Hey, whatever Tom wants to spell is OK by me. > We have the same "MP" interest and can connect at a higher level than mere > mortals :-) > > He used to be an "AOL" member, was the first to reply, and went on to > arrange for another email address to remain with the group. > > Go, Tom, Go! > > Eric > > > "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979; > "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975 > > > --- On Tue, 6/8/10, Netspace <vmitps at netspace.net.au> wrote: > > > From: Netspace <vmitps at netspace.net.au> > > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Message to AOL subscribers on the Rovernet. > > To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > > Received: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 4:15 PM > > Fjords. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Wilson" <rovercar at comcast.net> > > To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 1:16 AM > > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Message to AOL subscribers on the > > Rovernet. > > > > > > > On 06/08/2010 10:33 AM, Tom Badrick wrote: > > >> As one of those subscribers I want to thank Eric > > for all his efforts here to > > >> help transition us and for dealing with the crap > > from AOL. > > >> > > >> Tom > > >> "he's not dead, he's pining for the fields" > > >> > > > > > > That's pining for the fyords, Tom. The parrot is a > > Norwegian Blue. 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He held me on the phone a long time trying to convince me. I was polite and finally told him i was cancelling. Then he told me&nbsp;I just missed the cycle AGAIN. He kept me on the phone just long enough for it to turn mid-night EST! I told him&nbsp;I wasn't falling for that and that it was the first thing out of my mouth was to cancel, so it was technically before midnight. They sure are tricky and I'am sure glad I no long pay them anything. ymmv</P> <P>&nbsp;</P> <P>roland<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 6/8/10, Eric Russell <I>&lt;p6rovers at yahoo.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></P> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Eric Russell &lt;p6rovers at yahoo.com&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] AOL or SOL<BR>To: "The original Rovernet ..." &lt;rovernet at rovernet.ca&gt;<BR>Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 7:04 AM<BR><BR> <DIV class=plainMail>Hmm,..... very interesting read as always, Glen.<BR><BR>Yes, SOL....<BR>Standards of Learning if you are in education<BR>Seems Only Likely for SMS users<BR>Shouting Out Loud for email or Twitter folk<BR>Sons of Lucifer ........ getting closer&nbsp; :-)<BR><BR>Eric<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;<BR>"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975<BR><BR><BR>--- On Mon, 6/7/10, Glen Wilson &lt;<A href="http://us.mc1805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rovercar at comcast.net" ymailto="mailto:rovercar at comcast.net">rovercar at comcast.net</A>&gt; wrote:<BR><BR>&gt; From: Glen Wilson &lt;<A href="http://us.mc1805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rovercar at comcast.net" ymailto="mailto:rovercar at comcast.net">rovercar at comcast.net</A>&gt;<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] AOL or SOL<BR>&gt; To: "The original Rovernet ..." &lt;<A href="http://us.mc1805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rovernet at rovernet.ca" ymailto="mailto:rovernet at rovernet.ca">rovernet at rovernet.ca</A>&gt;<BR>&gt; Received: Monday, June 7, 2010, 11:53 PM<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; My wife's aunt (who is about 85 years old) was set up with<BR>&gt; an AOL account some years ago because it was supposed to be<BR>&gt; so easy to install and use. She was watching her pennies,<BR>&gt; noted that AOL was charging her$24.95 for a dial-up<BR>&gt; account, and asked me what she could do. She is in a<BR>&gt; retirement community where the management had signed an<BR>&gt; exclusive contract with Verizon Vios where imnternet access<BR>&gt; cost the fixed-income residents over $50 per month. Mind<BR>&gt; you, she only checks her email once a week to see pictures<BR>&gt; of her grandchildren. When I take my laptop to her<BR>&gt; apartment, there are about ten wireless accounts with full<BR>&gt; bars all the way across. I told he to talk with a couple of<BR>&gt; her neighbors (or maybe six of her neighbors for all they<BR>&gt; use the net) and share one wireless account. Unfortunately,<BR>&gt; she views this as equivalent to stealing cable tv by<BR>&gt; splicing lines in the basement.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; So here's the AOL part. I signed her up with a local ISP<BR>&gt; for dial-up service at$5.95 per month. We canceled the AOL<BR>&gt; account but continued her email address there. She refused<BR>&gt; to get rid of the AOL email account even though she only<BR>&gt; gets email from four or five people. I installed Thunderbird<BR>&gt; to download her email since she didn't want to use a web<BR>&gt; interface and tie up her phone line. Since AOL email cannot<BR>&gt; be received as POP message, I had to set up the program to<BR>&gt; deal with AOL's IMAP mode. Of course, once this is done, AOL<BR>&gt; must have full contact with your computer via the network to<BR>&gt; see if you are editing or
deleting any email messages, and<BR>&gt; it gets upset if you switch off while it is accessing your<BR>&gt; files.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; AOL was a fantastic innovator when it arrived on the scene.<BR>&gt; I was a charter member before anyone had heard about it<BR>&gt; because I was running the GEOS operating system on my<BR>&gt; Commodore 64. At the time, I told my wife we should buy<BR>&gt; stock in AOL because it was going to change the world, but<BR>&gt; she equates the stock market with gambling. At this point in<BR>&gt; time, why anyone would cling to AOL is far beyond my ability<BR>&gt; to understand. If they end up giving up AOL to keep<BR>&gt; Rovernet, they will be better off in the end.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Glen<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; PS&nbsp; Eric, SOL also stands for Scions of Lucas which<BR>&gt; runs numerous British car email lists. Check them<BR>&gt; out.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<A href="http://www.team.net/sol/"
target=_blank>http://www.team.net/sol/</A><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to<BR>&gt; this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.<BR>&gt; <A href="http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca" target=_blank>http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca</A><BR>&gt; <BR><BR><BR><BR>To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.<BR><A href="http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca" target=_blank>http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca</A><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>

From slatskars at comcast.net  Wed Jun  9 00:03:02 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 05:03:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet ] R:  MG B on e-bay
Message-ID: <454370948.1822961276059782225.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Gianluca,

I agree with Kent about the steering wheel on the wrong side, but the bumpers can be minimized. I know a few people who have painted the bumpers to match the body color. This lets them blend in, much better. I know MGB's better then I do Rovers as I have three of them, but no rubber bumper models. My newest one is 1974, the last year of the chrome bumpers.

The UK, rubber bumper cars were different than the US models, in that they continued to use dual SU carburetors rather than a single Zenith/Stromberg. These carburetors are the same brand as used on Rovers. They also us SU fuel pumps. The carbs are probably the HIF type, but could be HS, which are even simpler. Almost any part imaginable is readily available for an MGB. I would question the mileage, 24,000 with six owners. That is only 6,000 miles per owner. Rust areas to look for are the rocker panels, the rear lower section of the front fenders and the floors. Overdrive is a real plus. If you have to change the windscreen, it is a real chore as there are dog leg sections that you access from inside. It is not as bad as having to remove a front fender though. The windscreen has to be removed to remove a fender. Great engineering, NOT! The listing person is correct, the top does not go up or down easily as do Alfa's or Fiat's. It is usually a two person task and will take about five minutes, if you know what you are doing. They are fun to drive. The carbs can be sorted pretty easily and the door latch mechanism can be adjusted to pull the doors in a little, that he mentions. If you are serious about it, I can give you an e-mail address of a very knowledgeable MGB person in the UK.

Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "gianluca ruotolo" <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com>
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2010 1:07:56 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [Rovernet ] R: ?MG B on e-bay

?

Any ideas?
I could be interested.

I should drive it back to Italy!

Best regards, Gianluca.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270588216969&fromMa

THIS COULD BE THE PROBLEM.

The dash is good, all gauges work ( the speedo sometimes takes a few
miles to wake up ) but the heater fan doesn't. Everything else,
including the clock, stereo and light is fine. The padded roll over the
dash is starting to disintegrate in one corner (see photo), you may also
notice a small crack in the windscreen here that is covered by the
owner's club sticker. This hasn't been a problem at MOT time.

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From p6rovers at yahoo.com  Wed Jun  9 00:14:21 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 22:14:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] AOL or SOL
Message-ID: <668185.51504.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Roland,
I think you played the trump card :-)

Eric

"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975

From rovercar at comcast.net  Wed Jun  9 00:52:08 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 01:52:08 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] MGB on e-bay
References: <454370948.1822961276059782225.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4C0F2C08.9030407@comcast.net>

In the USA, the rubber bumper cars also sat higher off the ground. From
what I understand, you can lower them, though this may require new
springs. You can also put chrome bumpers on them. In fact, you can do
practically anything you can imagine with an MGB. Bearing that in mind,
it really doesn't make much sense to buy an MGB that isn't configured
pretty much the way you want it. If I lived in Italy or any other LHD
drive country, I would never by a RHD car. At this point, I would buy a
car that is basically configured the way I would want it, and then do
what I want with it. You can modernize the brakes, the shocks, and the
suspension, if you want to.

If you haven't driven an MGB, you should drive one before you buy. They
are not at all as responsive or as fast as your basic modern hatchback.
I had a couple of unmodified MGBs, and then owned a 1966 Midget. The
Midget was like a go kart and very exciting to drive (especially since
they are death traps if you ever get hit by anything except a rusty Fiat
850 Spyder). Driving well sorted MGBs afterward, they felt like they
were weighed down with lead. By comparison, it's like driving a truck.

Anyway, my opinion is that any MGB that has not been heavily modified is
just not that exciting to drive. If you want it for the styling, the
MGB-GT is a far more attractive and practical car.
Make certain you have driven a decent example of an MGB before you buy
one based simply on what you might imagine. Aren't there any 124 Spyders
left?

Glen

On 06/09/2010 01:03 AM, slatskars at comcast.net wrote:
>
> Gianluca,
>
>
>
> I agree with Kent about the steering wheel on the wrong side, but the bumpers can be minimized. I know a few people who have painted the bumpers to match the body color. This lets them blend in, much better. I know MGB's better then I do Rovers as I have three of them, but no rubber bumper models. My newest one is 1974, the last year of the chrome bumpers.
>
>
>
> The UK, rubber bumper cars were different than the US models, in that they continued to use dual SU carburetors rather than a single Zenith/Stromberg. These carburetors are the same brand as used on Rovers. They also us SU fuel pumps. The carbs are probably the HIF type, but could be HS, which are even simpler. Almost any part imaginable is readily available for an MGB. I would question the mileage, 24,000 with six owners. That is only 6,000 miles per owner. Rust areas to look for are the rocker panels, the rear lower section of the front fenders and the floors. Overdrive is a real plus. If you have to change the windscreen, it is a real chore as there are dog leg sections that you access from inside. It is not as bad as having to remove a front fender though. The windscreen has to be removed to remove a fender. Great engineering, NOT! The listing person is correct, the top does not go up or down easily as do Alfa's or Fiat's. It is usually a two person task and will take about five minutes, if you know what you are doing. They are fun to drive. The carbs can be sorted pretty easily and the door latch mechanism can be adjusted to pull the doors in a little, that he mentions. If you are serious about it, I can give you an e-mail address of a very knowledgeable MGB person in the UK.
>
>
>
> Slats
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "gianluca ruotolo"<gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com>
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2010 1:07:56 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: [Rovernet ] R:  MG B on e-bay
>
>
>
> Any ideas?
> I could be interested.
>
> I should drive it back to Italy!
>
>
> Best regards, Gianluca.
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270588216969&fromMa
>
> THIS COULD BE THE PROBLEM.
>
>
> The dash is good, all gauges work ( the speedo sometimes takes a few
> miles to wake up ) but the heater fan doesn't. Everything else,
> including the clock, stereo and light is fine. The padded roll over the
> dash is starting to disintegrate in one corner (see photo), you may also
> notice a small crack in the windscreen here that is covered by the
> owner's club sticker. This hasn't been a problem at MOT time.
>
>
>
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
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From slatskars at comcast.net  Wed Jun  9 01:45:14 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 06:45:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet ] MGB on e-bay
Message-ID: <155692922.1835851276065914258.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Glen,

They were slightly higher, but that is not a real problem. The 1974 1/2"s and 1975 were the worst. In the UK not only did they keep the dual SU's but also minimal smog equipment and a different distributor. The engines were also higher compression that the US models. So, it is difficult to compare the performance?between them.

Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glen Wilson" <rovercar at comcast.net>
To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2010 10:52:08 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] MGB on e-bay

In the USA, the rubber bumper cars also sat higher off the ground. From
what I understand, you can lower them, though this may require new
springs. You can also put chrome bumpers on them. In fact, you can do
practically anything you can imagine with an MGB. Bearing that in mind,
it really doesn't make much sense to buy an MGB that isn't configured
pretty much the way you want it. If I lived in Italy or any other LHD
drive country, I would never by a RHD car. At this point, I would buy a
car that is basically configured the way I would want it, and then do
what I want with it. You can modernize the brakes, the shocks, and the
suspension, if you want to.

If you haven't driven an MGB, you should drive one before you buy. They
are not at all as responsive or as fast as your basic modern hatchback.
I had a couple of unmodified MGBs, and then owned a 1966 Midget. The
Midget was like a go kart and very exciting to drive (especially since
they are death traps if you ever get hit by anything except a rusty Fiat
850 Spyder). Driving well sorted MGBs afterward, they felt like they
were weighed down with lead. By comparison, it's like driving a truck.

Anyway, my opinion is that any MGB that has not been heavily modified is
just not that exciting to drive. If you want it for the styling, the
MGB-GT is a far more attractive and practical car.
Make certain you have driven a decent example of an MGB before you buy
one based simply on what you might imagine. Aren't there any 124 Spyders
left?

Glen

On 06/09/2010 01:03 AM, slatskars at comcast.net wrote:
>
> Gianluca,
>
>
>
> I agree with Kent about the steering wheel on the wrong side, but the bumpers can be minimized. I know a few people who have painted the bumpers to match the body color. This lets them blend in, much better. I know MGB's better then I do Rovers as I have three of them, but no rubber bumper models. My newest one is 1974, the last year of the chrome bumpers.
>
>
>
> The UK, rubber bumper cars were different than the US models, in that they continued to use dual SU carburetors rather than a single Zenith/Stromberg. These carburetors are the same brand as used on Rovers. They also us SU fuel pumps. The carbs are probably the HIF type, but could be HS, which are even simpler. Almost any part imaginable is readily available for an MGB. I would question the mileage, 24,000 with six owners. That is only 6,000 miles per owner. Rust areas to look for are the rocker panels, the rear lower section of the front fenders and the floors. Overdrive is a real plus. If you have to change the windscreen, it is a real chore as there are dog leg sections that you access from inside. It is not as bad as having to remove a front fender though. The windscreen has to be removed to remove a fender. Great engineering, NOT! The listing person is correct, the top does not go up or down easily as do Alfa's or Fiat's. It is usually a two person task and will take about five minutes, if you know what you are doing. They are fun to drive. The carbs can be sorted pretty easily and the door latch mechanism can be adjusted to pull the doors in a little, that he mentions. If you are serious about it, I can give you an e-mail address of a very knowledgeable MGB person in the UK.
>
>
>
> Slats
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "gianluca ruotolo"<gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com>
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2010 1:07:56 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: [Rovernet ] R: ?MG B on e-bay
>
> ?
>
> Any ideas?
> I could be interested.
>
> I should drive it back to Italy!
>
>
> Best regards, Gianluca.
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270588216969&fromMa
>
> THIS COULD BE THE PROBLEM.
>
>
> The dash is good, all gauges work ( the speedo sometimes takes a few
> miles to wake up ) but the heater fan doesn't. Everything else,
> including the clock, stereo and light is fine. The padded roll over the
> dash is starting to disintegrate in one corner (see photo), you may also
> notice a small crack in the windscreen here that is covered by the
> owner's club sticker. This hasn't been a problem at MOT time.
>
>
>
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
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From webgeezer at warbaby.com  Wed Jun  9 02:53:21 2010
From: webgeezer at warbaby.com (Robert Arnold)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 00:53:21 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Message to AOL subscribers on the Rovernet.
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Fnord.
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Anger that things are the way they are. Courage to make them the way
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From veetwinrider at yahoo.com  Wed Jun  9 08:10:41 2010
From: veetwinrider at yahoo.com (roland)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 06:10:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] R:  MG B on e-bay
Message-ID: <403496.76344.qm@web180508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I'd like to add to watch for the "crack of doom". Cracks forming at the doors near the wing windows. And to echo Slats, the rear dog leg rot is very common. Both my '73 and 77 had the crack and the rot.

roland

--- On Tue, 6/8/10, slatskars at comcast.net <slatskars at comcast.net> wrote:

> From: slatskars at comcast.net <slatskars at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] R:  MG B on e-bay
> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 10:03 PM
>
>
> Gianluca,
>
>
>
> I agree with Kent about the steering wheel on the wrong
> side, but the bumpers can be minimized. I know a few people
> who have painted the bumpers to match the body color. This
> lets them blend in, much better. I know MGB's better then I
> do Rovers as I have three of them, but no rubber bumper
> models. My newest one is 1974, the last year of the chrome
> bumpers.
>
>
>
> The UK, rubber bumper cars were different than the US
> models, in that they continued to use dual SU carburetors
> rather than a single Zenith/Stromberg. These carburetors are
> the same brand as used on Rovers. They also us SU fuel
> pumps. The carbs are probably the HIF type, but could be HS,
> which are even simpler. Almost any part imaginable is
> readily available for an MGB. I would question the mileage,
> 24,000 with six owners. That is only 6,000 miles per owner.
> Rust areas to look for are the rocker panels, the rear lower
> section of the front fenders and the floors. Overdrive is a
> real plus. If you have to change the windscreen, it is a
> real chore as there are dog leg sections that you access
> from inside. It is not as bad as having to remove a front
> fender though. The windscreen has to be removed to remove a
> fender. Great engineering, NOT! The listing person is
> correct, the top does not go up or down easily as do Alfa's
> or Fiat's. It is usually a two person task and will take
> about five minutes, if you know what you are doing. They are
> fun to drive. The carbs can be sorted pretty easily and the
> door latch mechanism can be adjusted to pull the doors in a
> little, that he mentions. If you are serious about it, I can
> give you an e-mail address of a very knowledgeable MGB
> person in the UK.
>
>
>
> Slats
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "gianluca ruotolo" <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com>
>
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2010 1:07:56 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada
> Pacific
> Subject: [Rovernet ] R: ?MG B on e-bay
>
> ?
>
> Any ideas?
> I could be interested.
>
> I should drive it back to Italy!
>
>
> Best regards, Gianluca.
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270588216969&fromMa
>
>
> THIS COULD BE THE PROBLEM.
>
>
> The dash is good, all gauges work ( the speedo sometimes
> takes a few
> miles to wake up ) but the heater fan doesn't. Everything
> else,
> including the clock, stereo and light is fine. The padded
> roll over the
> dash is starting to disintegrate in one corner (see photo),
> you may also
> notice a small crack in the windscreen here that is covered
> by the
> owner's club sticker. This hasn't been a problem at MOT
> time.
>
>
>
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From aboasberg at webtv.net  Wed Jun  9 20:15:33 2010
From: aboasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:15:33 GMT
Subject: [Rovernet ] Hanger Hooks Requested
Message-ID: <SNT101-DS2356E70D62A2B8557661A8B5D80@phx.gbl>

When I had the interior of my 3500S redone, they removed but did not replace the hooks that are mounted over the rear passenger windows.

They are handy for hanging clothing items when traveling or to hang clothes picked up from the cleaners on wire hangers.

Does anyone know of a source for these?
The upholsterers who did my car threw them out.

Thanks.

Albert

From kkinard at att.net  Wed Jun  9 21:12:27 2010
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 21:12:27 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Hanger Hooks Requested
References: <SNT101-DS2356E70D62A2B8557661A8B5D80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4C104A0B.1040207@att.net>

Hi Albert,
Yes, I have new ones. $15 per pair plus postage. Let me know before 9:30 AM CDT USA on Thursday and I can ship on Friday. Otherwise it will be two weeks. Rovereplacemently, Kent K. Albert Boasberg wrote: > When I had the interior of my 3500S redone, they removed but did not replace the hooks that are mounted over the rear passenger windows. > > They are handy for hanging clothing items when traveling or to hang clothes picked up from the cleaners on wire hangers. > > Does anyone know of a source for these? > The upholsterers who did my car threw them out. > > Thanks. > > Albert > > > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > From mp349 at xtra.co.nz Thu Jun 10 01:31:48 2010 From: mp349 at xtra.co.nz (Michael Pellow) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 18:31:48 +1200 Subject: [Rovernet ] Sad news In-Reply-To: <006301cb0415$786cc650$694652f0$@net>
References: <p06200740c823681ed78a@[192.168.0.2]>	<898494.22184.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<450106hlc4solihsq6e7crb4v3ce4btjqk@4ax.com>	<4C01004B.2070705@att.net><ud3206t82bs73qvboionh13i7jh8o62rus@4ax.com><4C011562.7060508@att.net><rg64069j5ke57n2npl7qejbpi7ja8u6p8a@4ax.com>	<66670F6D33FB4AE996B052895487D13D@rw>	<39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959608B38C@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel>	<4C03ACA3.1050105@att.net>	<BLU0-SMTP5832E7F4E7BFE56234285FB0D20@phx.gbl>	<13694A2E-0E1B-482D-A2A8-93EB596B9D89@alumni.bates.edu>
<006301cb0415$786cc650$694652f0@net> Message-ID: <4C1086D4.9060503@xtra.co.nz> On 5/06/2010 6:40 a.m., Geff McCarthy wrote: > Steve, sorry to hear of your mishap, glad it was not worse! I note your > chest pain and assume it is not just from a broken heart... > Hope you won't mind a safety question for the benefit of the 'netters: > **Were you wearing the shoulder belt? If so, was it an inertia reel? > As an expert in safety and human impact tolerance, I would comment in > advance that both types have the same potential deficiency: They allow too > much torso movement. Paradoxically, the fixed, aircraft-type belt may be > better, but only if VERY tight. All inertia reels are very reliable, but > depend on deceleration or fast outward belt movement to trigger the lock. By > that time, there is slack in the belt. (Ejection seats are the same: > When you "pull the handle" the first thing that happens is that the shoulder > belts reel back in very forcefully and pin you back in the seat. This is to > align the spine for the 14G contemporary, and older 25G upward accel.) > Contemporary cars have belt-tightening that is triggered by deceleration. > This minimizes torso travel and therefore chest injury. If any of you out > there are considering a new car, buy one that has the auto belts and auto > headrests, etc. > > > Geff and Julie McCarthy > 677 NW Melinda Ave > Portland OR 97210 > 503-241-8468 > 503-799-3809 mobile > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On > Behalf Of Henry Manwell > Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 4:44 AM > To: The original Rovernet ... > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Sad news > > I feel your pain, Steve, but it's not hopeless. > > The '71 Series II I'm driving we brought back to life after the previous > owner went off the road and stove in the right front corner probably at more > than 15 MPH. The wheel base on that side was shortened considerably and was > pulled back out by the appropriate equipment at my local body shop. Some > hammer and dolly work on the inner sheet metal, a new fender, hood, apron, > and bumper has is back in pretty good shape. I'd be surprised if your "A" > pillar is bent. And solid body shells are available as are good whole cars. > > Hank > > > On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:32 PM, Steven Dibdin wrote: > > >> Well I have comprehesively killed 2000TC with aid of a slipped foot a tree >> > and 15 mph. I am fine albeit with a painful chest. But I fear Rolly's base > unit is twisted so badly that the front passenger door is jammed shut. The > gearbox is jammed in first and the front screen is badly cracked. > >> I am feeling very sorry for myself right now not to mention that I'm >> > feeling stupid. > >> Cheers all for all your help and advice over the last five years of Rover >> > ownership. I wouldn't have been able to do this with everyones help and > encouragement. > >> Kind regards, >> >> Steven Dibdin >> >> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be >> > sure to scroll down the whole page. > >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure > to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > You say that the front door wont open.My car ,having had an argument with a light Pickup truck comming the other way on my arround a corner on my side of the road, had the front door jambed up.This was due to the front guard being pushe back along the inner frame.When I unbolted it and straighened the bonnet,I was able to drive the rest of the journey approx 200miles back home. The inner structure was sound except for the pannel supporting the drivers side headlights which was relatively easy to have repaired Michael Pellow P6/p6B owner for over 30 years From aboasberg at webtv.net Thu Jun 10 07:19:05 2010 From: aboasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:19:05 GMT Subject: [Rovernet ] Hanger Hooks Requested Message-ID: <SNT101-DS25FFBD327F645E545BC14DB5D80@phx.gbl> Dear Kent: Thanks a lot for your reply. Yes, I would like to order a pair of these from you. My mailing address is: Albert L. Boasberg 155 Montgomery St., Ste. 1010 San Francisco, CA 94104 Give me your address so that I can mail you a check right away. Thanks. Albert From kkinard at att.net Thu Jun 10 07:47:16 2010 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:47:16 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet ] Anyone else need Hanger Hooks? In-Reply-To: <SNT101-DS2356E70D62A2B8557661A8B5D80@phx.gbl> References: <SNT101-DS2356E70D62A2B8557661A8B5D80@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <4C10DED4.50009@att.net> If anyone else needs a pair of these hooks and will be at Fitchburg, you can save postage by ordering before Sunday, June 13. Roverly, Kent K. Albert Boasberg wrote: > When I had the interior of my 3500S redone, they removed but did not replace the hooks that are mounted over the rear passenger windows. > > They are handy for hanging clothing items when traveling or to hang clothes picked up from the cleaners on wire hangers. > > Does anyone know of a source for these? > The upholsterers who did my car threw them out. > > Thanks. > > Albert > > > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > From p6rovers at yahoo.com Thu Jun 10 11:20:58 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:20:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet ] SD1 For Sale - Virginia Message-ID: <603807.19421.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, We have another Rover just posted in our "Rovers for Sale" section on the RCCC website. This time is is a 5 speed SD1 located in Central Virginia. Pictures and more details can be seen from club website <www.roverclub.ca> or the item page at: <http://www.roverclub.ca/saunders.html> Eric "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979; "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975 From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Thu Jun 10 13:39:04 2010 From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:39:04 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet ] R: R: MG B on e-bay In-Reply-To: <403496.76344.qm@web180508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <454370948.1822961276059782225.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <403496.76344.qm@web180508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B95961050ED@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel> Dear friends, thanks for your kind answer and advices. I would like to buy one of these toys for the summer, an MG B or a Midget. Never driven one, which could be better in your opinion? I will find someone who has got it and I will try. Later will let you know. Last week I've seen one in via sabvoia, under the house of the former major. Who's the owner? RHD does not matter, I drove on the wrong side for a month in Australia and in NZ ten years ago. I can understand thet the traffic of Rome is opposite side and very, very different from Southern island's one, but at the end I live 1,2 km far from the office and I generally come by bus. I'm not a very frequent driver at the end. The one we spoke about is in my opinion very interesting. There are also some Midgets corsica blue - my favourite colour - on e bay, one with rollbar which could be useful sometimes. Slats, the address of your friend could also be useful if you want. A new adventure! Thanksd everyone and best regards, Gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di roland Inviato: mercoled? 9 giugno 2010 15.11 A: The original Rovernet ... Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet ] R: MG B on e-bay I'd like to add to watch for the "crack of doom". Cracks forming at the doors near the wing windows. And to echo Slats, the rear dog leg rot is very common. Both my '73 and 77 had the crack and the rot. roland --- On Tue, 6/8/10, slatskars at comcast.net <slatskars at comcast.net> wrote: > From: slatskars at comcast.net <slatskars at comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] R: MG B on e-bay > To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 10:03 PM > > > Gianluca, > > > > I agree with Kent about the steering wheel on the wrong side, but the > bumpers can be minimized. I know a few people who have painted the > bumpers to match the body color. This lets them blend in, much better. > I know MGB's better then I do Rovers as I have three of them, but no > rubber bumper models. My newest one is 1974, the last year of the > chrome bumpers. > > > > The UK, rubber bumper cars were different than the US models, in that > they continued to use dual SU carburetors rather than a single > Zenith/Stromberg. These carburetors are the same brand as used on > Rovers. They also us SU fuel pumps. The carbs are probably the HIF > type, but could be HS, which are even simpler. Almost any part > imaginable is readily available for an MGB. I would question the > mileage, 24,000 with six owners. That is only 6,000 miles per owner. > Rust areas to look for are the rocker panels, the rear lower section > of the front fenders and the floors. Overdrive is a real plus. If you > have to change the windscreen, it is a real chore as there are dog leg > sections that you access from inside. It is not as bad as having to > remove a front fender though. The windscreen has to be removed to > remove a fender. Great engineering, NOT! The listing person is > correct, the top does not go up or down easily as do Alfa's or Fiat's. > It is usually a two person task and will take about five minutes, if > you know what you are doing. They are fun to drive. The carbs can be > sorted pretty easily and the door latch mechanism can be adjusted to > pull the doors in a little, that he mentions. If you are serious about > it, I can give you an e-mail address of a very knowledgeable MGB > person in the UK. > > > > Slats > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "gianluca ruotolo" <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com> > > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2010 1:07:56 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: [Rovernet ] R: ?MG B on e-bay > > ? > > Any ideas? > I could be interested. > > I should drive it back to Italy! > > Thanks in advance. > > Best regards, Gianluca. > > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270588216969&from > Ma > > keTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en > > THIS COULD BE THE PROBLEM. > > A VIBRATION FROM THE BAD ADJUSTED DOOR? > > The dash is good, all gauges work ( the speedo sometimes takes a few > miles to wake up ) but the heater fan doesn't. Everything else, > including the clock, stereo and light is fine. The padded roll over > the dash is starting to disintegrate in one corner (see photo), you > may also notice a small crack in the windscreen here that is covered > by the owner's club sticker. This hasn't been a problem at MOT time. > > > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be > sure to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to > this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100609/a3d08c21/attachment.html> > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to > this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca From fjcumberland at yahoo.com Thu Jun 10 13:45:52 2010 From: fjcumberland at yahoo.com (Jim Cumberland) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet ] 1971 NADA 2000TC & some bits for sale Message-ID: <132.85509.qm@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi all, My 1971 NADA 2000 TC "Dora"?is for sale.? I am asking4500/offer.? Some very recent pics are here:

The car is running really well, and looks great.? Her center console is out because we had just changed the gearshift lever.

It was a diplomatic import into DC that was bought when it was 6 months old by a Rover enthusiast in MD named Bill Kumm.? He immediately loaded it up with just about every conceivable Rover option (including Sundym windows and Delanair AC).? I bought it from him in 2002.? He refurbished it in 1999.? Original color is Mexico Brown.? The interior is the original one - it is Sandalwood.? The blue is a Chrysler color - the best way I can describe it is "Richard Petty Blue." In my opinion it suits the car very well.? I have the Heritage Certificate for it.

I am culling the fleet because I am in the midst of moving from SC to Buffalo this summer.? I'm selling the Rover because all my other stuff is Mini/Landcrab/Metro - I've already sold my MG 1100 and will have my Austin 1300 estate for sale (and possibly my Radford Cooper S as well).?? Dora has been a great car, and I and my kids (especially my daughter) have enjoyed her immensely, but I want to concentrate on Minis and the Crab and Metro (yes, I have a soft spot for underappreciated BL tin.? One day I will own a Maxi.? Probably in some horrible color (though my cars tend to be blue or green . . . .).

The Rover will come with some mechancial spares.? I also have a spare engine & manual box that came with her (it might be her original engine - I cannot remember, but probably can figure that out), and a 2 litre TC engine w/manual box and a 2.2L w/auto box that I bought from the UK.? I'm asking $375 ono for each of those 2 spare engines, or they can go with the car.? Cheers, Jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100610/45efef83/attachment.html> From fjcumberland at yahoo.com Thu Jun 10 13:48:12 2010 From: fjcumberland at yahoo.com (Jim Cumberland) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 spares Message-ID: <743246.36166.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This is a follow-up to my email about selling my TC. I have a spare Sandalwood interior in box pleat cloth, a mixed set of 5 "Rostyle" wheels, and 2 sets of TC wires & hubs, one of which is refinished; however,?all these items have been packed and are being loaded for storage in Buffalo today/tomorrow.? I might be able to get them back out tonight if?someone really wants them and acts fast, but they also might already be on the truck by the time I get home.? Otherwise I'll deal with them after I move and we find a place to live. Unpacked items include a spare fuel tank and a (I believe) spare set of door window frames and mechanisms.? I did not have time to get them in the load for Buffalo.? Make me an offer - I am unlikely to move them unless someone in the NY/NE area wants them.? I'm happy to donate them and eventually other spares I take to NY to a club spares officer if they're wanted.? Cheers, Jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100610/44d80417/attachment.html> From kkinard at att.net Fri Jun 11 11:32:10 2010 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:32:10 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet ] Hanger Hooks Requested In-Reply-To: <SNT101-DS25FFBD327F645E545BC14DB5D80@phx.gbl> References: <SNT101-DS25FFBD327F645E545BC14DB5D80@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <4C12650A.8030603@att.net> Hi Albert, Hooks are on their way. I sent you four so you would have spares.$15 for hooks, $12.48 for envelope and shipping UPS. The address below did not come up on UPS computer. Is this a new area or building? Tracking #1z664w8w0377164902 Roverly, Kent K. Albert Boasberg wrote: > Dear Kent: > > Thanks a lot for your reply. > > Yes, I would like to order a pair of these from you. > > My mailing address is: > > Albert L. Boasberg > 155 Montgomery St., Ste. 1010 > San Francisco, CA 94104 > > Give me your address so that I can mail you a check right away. > > Thanks. > > Albert > > > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > From kkinard at att.net Fri Jun 11 11:49:17 2010 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:49:17 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet ] OT My poor etiquette In-Reply-To: <4C12650A.8030603@att.net> References: <SNT101-DS25FFBD327F645E545BC14DB5D80@phx.gbl> <4C12650A.8030603@att.net> Message-ID: <4C12690D.8000506@att.net> Netters, Sorry about bombing the list with order info for Albert. Hit reply to the wrong message. Kent K. From vern at inkspotco.com Fri Jun 11 11:55:36 2010 From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:55:36 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet ] OT My poor etiquette In-Reply-To: <4C12690D.8000506@att.net> References: <SNT101-DS25FFBD327F645E545BC14DB5D80@phx.gbl> <4C12650A.8030603@att.net> <4C12690D.8000506@att.net> Message-ID: <A75A6566-549C-4B84-B6BD-E86E0EC629E8@inkspotco.com> I was going to say, why do we have to know? I have half a mind to rat you out to the privacy cops ;-) Yours Vern On 2010-06-11, at 9:49 AM, Kent Kinard wrote: > Netters, > Sorry about bombing the list with order info for Albert. > Hit reply to the wrong message. > > Kent K. > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Inkspot Type & Design 250 864 5619 in at inkspotco.com From rovercar at comcast.net Fri Jun 11 12:05:26 2010 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:05:26 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] The Onion Sports Introduction To World Cup Soccer | The Onion - America's Finest News Source Message-ID: <4C126CD6.7010009@comcast.net> http://www.theonion.com/interactive/the-onion-sports-introduction-to-world-cup-soccer,17558/ From rovercar at comcast.net Fri Jun 11 12:10:58 2010 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:10:58 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] OT My poor etiquette In-Reply-To: <4C12690D.8000506@att.net> References: <SNT101-DS25FFBD327F645E545BC14DB5D80@phx.gbl> <4C12650A.8030603@att.net> <4C12690D.8000506@att.net> Message-ID: <4C126E22.3000403@comcast.net> On 06/11/2010 12:49 PM, Kent Kinard wrote: > Netters, > Sorry about bombing the list with order info for Albert. > Hit reply to the wrong message. > > Kent K. > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be > sure to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Chill out and watch some soccer, Kent! http://www.theonion.com/interactive/the-onion-sports-introduction-to-world-cup-soccer,17558/ GW From slatskars at comcast.net Fri Jun 11 12:28:03 2010 From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:28:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rovernet ] OT My poor etiquette In-Reply-To: <148673022.2873681276276641414.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1562954932.2877921276277283921.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Glen, Back when I was a kid, a l-o-n-g, l-o-n-g time ago, the US socce r Championship was held by a very small town near Pittsburgh, named Harmarville. Just a bunch of coal miners! Slats ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Wilson" <rovercar at comcast.net> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:10:58 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] OT My poor etiquette On 06/11/2010 12:49 PM, Kent Kinard wrote: > Netters, > Sorry about bombing the list with order info for Albert. > Hit reply to the wrong message. > > Kent K. > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be > sure to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Chill out and watch some soccer, Kent! http://www.theonion.com/interactive/the-onion-sports-introduction-to-world-cup-soccer,17558/ GW To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From kkinard at att.net Fri Jun 11 12:46:49 2010 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:46:49 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet ] OT My poor etiquette In-Reply-To: <4C126E22.3000403@comcast.net> References: <SNT101-DS25FFBD327F645E545BC14DB5D80@phx.gbl> <4C12650A.8030603@att.net> <4C12690D.8000506@att.net> <4C126E22.3000403@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4C127689.50407@att.net> > Chill out and watch some soccer, Kent! Hi Glen, I don't have time. Baptist Children and Family Services just opened a new Transition Center for youth leaving state and county custody. I am trying to coordinate the related United Methodist agencies and get everyone on the same page. It is really an exciting enterprise...state and county probation, restorative justice, life skill training, foster care, family counseling, state employment offices, etc. all under one roof and working together. It is unique (so far) in the country but is supposed to be a pilot project for similar centers nation wide. Also, a member of the Triumph club is out at the shop loading up engines and cars and I'm trying to get clear with my daughter's boyfriend about which stuff is to be loaded. I've still got to pack for Fitchburg. I was going to bring a stack of "3500S" promotional license plates, but I couldn't lift that much steel and haul it around the airport. You can watch World Cup football for me. Roverly, Kent K. From p6rovers at yahoo.com Fri Jun 11 22:55:32 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:55:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovers and parts for sale in B.C., Canada Message-ID: <43199.1934.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> A former member of the RCCC is no longer able to upkeep his Rovers due to ill health. His family would like to help him sell the cars and parts to another enthusiast. His son is the contact person. The first Rover is a 1970 P6B with the V8 engine in it. I believe there is a set of rebuilt cylinder heads for it, with boxes of spare parts and bumpers, fenders and doors. The other car is a blue Rover 1969 TC 2000. The car is in pretty good condition except it has a seized engine. There are boxes of parts for this car as well. The cars and parts are located in Aldergrove, BC, Canada. We are asking$1000 for each of the cars. We are looking for a quick sale.
Contact: Morgan Newton

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From RoverP6 at gmx.de  Sat Jun 12 05:57:00 2010
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:57:00 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] Modifying a P6......
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This thread has 7 pages !

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From RoverP6 at gmx.de  Sat Jun 12 06:12:06 2010
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:12:06 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] Searching for P6 owner....
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http://justacargeek.blogspot.com/2010/02/1970-rover-3500s-p6.html

Is the owner registered here on Rovernet ?

Rudiger
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From RoverP6 at gmx.de  Sat Jun 12 06:23:00 2010
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:23:00 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 racer
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From fjcumberland at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 12 07:18:30 2010
From: fjcumberland at yahoo.com (Jim Cumberland)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 05:18:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] 71 TC & some parts for sale
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Hi all,

My 1971 NADA 2000 TC "Dora" is for sale.  I am asking $4500/offer. Some very recent pics are here: http://picasaweb.google.com/fjcumberland/1971Rover2000TC02?authkey=Gv1sRgCKr0v7S9l4artgE&feat=directlink The car is running really well, and looks great. Her center console is out because we had just changed the gearshift lever. It was a diplomatic import into DC that was bought when it was 6 months old by a Rover enthusiast in MD named Bill Kumm. He immediately loaded it up with just about every conceivable Rover option (including Sundym windows and Delanair AC). I bought it from him in 2002. He refurbished it in 1999. Original color is Mexico Brown. The interior is the original one - it is Sandalwood. The blue is a Chrysler color - the best way I can describe it is "Richard Petty Blue." In my opinion it suits the car very well. I have the Heritage Certificate for it. I am culling the fleet because I am in the midst of moving from SC to Buffalo this summer. I'm selling the Rover because all my other stuff is Mini/Landcrab/Metro - I've already sold my MG 1100 and will have my Austin 1300 estate for sale (and possibly my Radford Cooper S as well). Dora has been a great car, and I and my kids (especially my daughter) have enjoyed her immensely, but I want to concentrate on Minis and the Crab and Metro (yes, I have a soft spot for underappreciated BL tin. One day I will own a Maxi. Probably in some horrible color (though my cars tend to be blue or green . . . .). The Rover will come with some mechancial spares. I also have a spare engine & manual box that came with her (it might be her original engine - I cannot remember, but probably can figure that out), and a 2 litre TC engine w/manual box and a 2.2L w/auto box that I bought from the UK. I'm asking$375 ono for each of those 2 spare engines, or they can go with the car.

Cheers,

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From irishrover1 at sympatico.ca  Sat Jun 12 08:27:16 2010
From: irishrover1 at sympatico.ca (BEN RODGERS)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:27:16 -0300
Subject: [Rovernet ] 71 TC & some parts for sale
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Hi Jim
Nice looking car, I notice it differs a little from my Series Two.
My battery is found in the trunk same as in P6B also my hubcaps are
different and same as P6B, probably because my car was originally sold in
regards Ben (irishrover)
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From fjcumberland at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 12 08:36:40 2010
From: fjcumberland at yahoo.com (Jim Cumberland)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 06:36:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] 71 TC & some parts for sale
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Hi Ben,

Thanks.  The battery originally was in the boot as per normal, but the previous owner moved it under the hood for convenience.  It fits well where he installed it.

Cheers,

Jim

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Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] 71 TC & some parts for sale

Hi Jim
Nice looking car, I notice it differs a little from my Series Two. My battery is found in the trunk same as in P6B also my hubcaps are different and same as P6B, probably because my car was originally sold in Germany and your is a NADA model. Good luck with selling.
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From hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu  Sat Jun 12 09:29:22 2010
From: hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu (Henry Manwell)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:29:22 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] 71 TC & some parts for sale
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Hi Jim,

I'm still interested to know whether one of those spare engines may be a Series II engine and, if so, where it falls in the range of those 200 or so cars imported to North America.

> The Series II I'm driving is 43500072A, engine number 85905287F. The engine of #74 is missing, but I'm supposing it's original engine number would have been close to #72s.

When will you likely be moving into Buffalo - 150 miles from us in Syracuse?

Hank

On Jun 12, 2010, at 8:18 AM, Jim Cumberland wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> My 1971 NADA 2000 TC "Dora" is for sale.  I am asking $4500/offer. Some very recent pics are here: > > http://picasaweb.google.com/fjcumberland/1971Rover2000TC02?authkey=Gv1sRgCKr0v7S9l4artgE&feat=directlink > > The car is running really well, and looks great. Her center console is out because we had just changed the gearshift lever. > > It was a diplomatic import into DC that was bought when it was 6 months old by a Rover enthusiast in MD named Bill Kumm. He immediately loaded it up with just about every conceivable Rover option (including Sundym windows and Delanair AC). I bought it from him in 2002. He refurbished it in 1999. Original color is Mexico Brown. The interior is the original one - it is Sandalwood. The blue is a Chrysler color - the best way I can describe it is "Richard Petty Blue." In my opinion it suits the car very well. I have the Heritage Certificate for it. > > I am culling the fleet because I am in the midst of moving from SC to Buffalo this summer. I'm selling the Rover because all my other stuff is Mini/Landcrab/Metro - I've already sold my MG 1100 and will have my Austin 1300 estate for sale (and possibly my Radford Cooper S as well). Dora has been a great car, and I and my kids (especially my daughter) have enjoyed her immensely, but I want to concentrate on Minis and the Crab and Metro (yes, I have a soft spot for underappreciated BL tin. One day I will own a Maxi. Probably in some horrible color (though my cars tend to be blue or green . . . .). > > The Rover will come with some mechancial spares. I also have a spare engine & manual box that came with her (it might be her original engine - I cannot remember, but probably can figure that out), and a 2 litre TC engine w/manual box and a 2.2L w/auto box that I bought from the UK. I'm asking$375 ono for each of those 2 spare engines, or they can go with the car.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jim
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From rovercar at comcast.net  Sat Jun 12 10:51:20 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:51:20 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] 71 TC & some parts for sale
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On 06/12/2010 08:18 AM, Jim Cumberland wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> My 1971 NADA 2000 TC "Dora" is for sale.

Well, that's certainly a beautiful example of a Series 2 P6.  Someone
should snap that one up immediately! Don't let some non-Rovernetter get it!

Glen

>    I am asking $4500/offer. Some very recent pics are here: > > http://picasaweb.google.com/fjcumberland/1971Rover2000TC02?authkey=Gv1sRgCKr0v7S9l4artgE&feat=directlink > > The car is running really well, and looks great. Her center console is out because we had just changed the gearshift lever. > > It was a diplomatic import into DC that was bought when it was 6 months old by a Rover enthusiast in MD named Bill Kumm. He immediately loaded it up with just about every conceivable Rover option (including Sundym windows and Delanair AC). I bought it from him in 2002. He refurbished it in 1999. Original color is Mexico Brown. The interior is the original one - it is Sandalwood. The blue is a Chrysler color - the best way I can describe it is "Richard Petty Blue." In my opinion it suits the car very well. I have the Heritage Certificate for it. > > I am culling the fleet because I am in the midst of moving from SC to Buffalo this summer. I'm selling the Rover because all my other stuff is Mini/Landcrab/Metro - I've already sold my MG 1100 and will have my Austin 1300 estate for sale (and possibly my Radford Cooper S as well). Dora has been a great car, and I and my kids (especially my daughter) have enjoyed her immensely, but I want to concentrate on Minis and the Crab and Metro (yes, I have a soft spot for underappreciated BL tin. One day I will own a Maxi. Probably in some horrible color (though my cars tend to be blue or green . . . .). > > The Rover will come with some mechancial spares. I also have a spare engine& manual box that came with her (it might be her original engine - I cannot remember, but probably can figure that out), and a 2 litre TC engine w/manual box and a 2.2L w/auto box that I bought from the UK. I'm asking$375 ono for each of those 2 spare engines, or they can go with the car.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jim
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From rovercar at comcast.net  Sat Jun 12 13:36:28 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:36:28 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] 71 TC & some parts for sale
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On 06/12/2010 10:29 AM, Henry Manwell wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> I'm still interested to know whether one of those spare engines may be a Series II engine and, if so, where it falls in the range of those 200 or so cars imported to North America.
> When will you likely be moving into Buffalo - 150 miles from us in Syracuse?
>
> Hank
>
>

Jim,

I think you should give that car to Hank and charge him $4,500 to deliver it. But then, I know that Hank would have no use for a car that was already finished! Glen From sdibdin at hotmail.com Sat Jun 12 13:45:40 2010 From: sdibdin at hotmail.com (Steven Dibdin) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:45:40 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] 71 TC & some parts for sale In-Reply-To: <4C13ACF8.1080206@comcast.net> References: <224787.82904.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C13ACF8.1080206@comcast.net> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP44A1C68F6DBBDD7EDAD160B0DA0@phx.gbl> Dora is a beautiful example of a S1.5 very nice with that colour too. With Rolly going through his rejuvination I can't afford to take her. But god she's a tempting prospect. On Jun 12, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote: > On 06/12/2010 08:18 AM, Jim Cumberland wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> My 1971 NADA 2000 TC "Dora" is for sale. > > Well, that's certainly a beautiful example of a Series 2 P6. > Someone should snap that one up immediately! Don't let some non- > Rovernetter get it! > > Glen > > > > >> I am asking$4500/offer.  Some very recent pics are here:
>>
>>
>> The car is running really well, and looks great.  Her center
>> console is out because we had just changed the gearshift lever.
>>
>> It was a diplomatic import into DC that was bought when it was 6
>> months old by a Rover enthusiast in MD named Bill Kumm.  He
>> option (including Sundym windows and Delanair AC).  I bought it
>> from him in 2002.  He refurbished it in 1999.  Original color is
>> Mexico Brown.  The interior is the original one - it is
>> Sandalwood.  The blue is a Chrysler color - the best way I can
>> describe it is "Richard Petty Blue." In my opinion it suits the car
>> very well.  I have the Heritage Certificate for it.
>>
>> I am culling the fleet because I am in the midst of moving from SC
>> to Buffalo this summer.  I'm selling the Rover because all my other
>> stuff is Mini/Landcrab/Metro - I've already sold my MG 1100 and
>> will have my Austin 1300 estate for sale (and possibly my Radford
>> Cooper S as well).   Dora has been a great car, and I and my kids
>> (especially my daughter) have enjoyed her immensely, but I want to
>> concentrate on Minis and the Crab and Metro (yes, I have a soft
>> spot for underappreciated BL tin.  One day I will own a Maxi.
>> Probably in some horrible color (though my cars tend to be blue or
>> green . . . .).
>>
>> The Rover will come with some mechancial spares.  I also have a
>> spare engine&  manual box that came with her (it might be her
>> original engine - I cannot remember, but probably can figure that
>> out), and a 2 litre TC engine w/manual box and a 2.2L w/auto box
>> that I bought from the UK.  I'm asking $375 ono for each of those 2 >> spare engines, or they can go with the car. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Jim >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL:<http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100612/a0f2320d/attachment.html >> > >> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. >> Be sure to scroll down the whole page. >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> >> > > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. > Be sure to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > From fjcumberland at yahoo.com Sat Jun 12 15:58:22 2010 From: fjcumberland at yahoo.com (Jim Cumberland) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:58:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet ] 71 TC & some parts for sale In-Reply-To: <4C13D3AC.50709@comcast.net> References: <224787.82904.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <DF29B4E5-3D26-4216-B1D7-2378D976D88D@alumni.bates.edu> <4C13D3AC.50709@comcast.net> Message-ID: <160536.27690.qm@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> EXCELLENT plan! I'll save that for the ebay auction if it gets to that point. LMAO ________________________________ From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> To: The original Rovernet ... <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Sat, June 12, 2010 2:36:28 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] 71 TC & some parts for sale On 06/12/2010 10:29 AM, Henry Manwell wrote: > Hi Jim, > > I'm still interested to know whether one of those spare engines may be a Series II engine and, if so, where it falls in the range of those 200 or so cars imported to North America. > When will you likely be moving into Buffalo - 150 miles from us in Syracuse? > > Hank > > Jim, I think you should give that car to Hank and charge him$4,500 to
deliver it.

But then, I know that Hank would have no use for a car that was already
finished!

Glen

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From vern at inkspotco.com  Sat Jun 12 19:52:20 2010
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:52:20 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] 71 TC & some parts for sale
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I love the Landcrab. Owned a red automatic version for a short time, when it suffered the slings and arrow of first being driven over a traffic island one drunken night, ripping the bottom of the trans off (I had been left on the deserted beach with my just that night ex-girlfriend while we searched for the keys to her Mini in the sand. Ah, youth. But I digress.

I fixed that, but six months or so later I came out of a blind driveway and into traffic which put paid to car. Anyway, very nice car for basic transportation, one of the best BL ever designed.

Yours
Vern

On 2010-06-12, at 5:18 AM, Jim Cumberland wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> My 1971 NADA 2000 TC "Dora" is for sale.  I am asking $4500/offer. Some very recent pics are here: > > http://picasaweb.google.com/fjcumberland/1971Rover2000TC02?authkey=Gv1sRgCKr0v7S9l4artgE&feat=directlink > > The car is running really well, and looks great. Her center console is out because we had just changed the gearshift lever. > > It was a diplomatic import into DC that was bought when it was 6 months old by a Rover enthusiast in MD named Bill Kumm. He immediately loaded it up with just about every conceivable Rover option (including Sundym windows and Delanair AC). I bought it from him in 2002. He refurbished it in 1999. Original color is Mexico Brown. The interior is the original one - it is Sandalwood. The blue is a Chrysler color - the best way I can describe it is "Richard Petty Blue." In my opinion it suits the car very well. I have the Heritage Certificate for it. > > I am culling the fleet because I am in the midst of moving from SC to Buffalo this summer. I'm selling the Rover because all my other stuff is Mini/Landcrab/Metro - I've already sold my MG 1100 and will have my Austin 1300 estate for sale (and possibly my Radford Cooper S as well). Dora has been a great car, and I and my kids (especially my daughter) have enjoyed her immensely, but I want to concentrate on Minis and the Crab and Metro (yes, I have a soft spot for underappreciated BL tin. One day I will own a Maxi. Probably in some horrible color (though my cars tend to be blue or green . . . .). > > The Rover will come with some mechancial spares. I also have a spare engine & manual box that came with her (it might be her original engine - I cannot remember, but probably can figure that out), and a 2 litre TC engine w/manual box and a 2.2L w/auto box that I bought from the UK. I'm asking$375 ono for each of those 2 spare engines, or they can go with the car.
>
> Cheers,
>
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From roger.matheson at bigpond.com  Sun Jun 13 02:39:58 2010
From: roger.matheson at bigpond.com (roger matheson)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 17:39:58 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC Brakes sticking
References: <245486.7105.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002d01cb0acb$9fc02640$0100000a@owner1b4c6f2cf>

Hi Eric,

faulty and I changed it with a spare.  Problems fixed.  The excercise also
made me finally fulfil a long standing plan.  That is, fix an air hose
connector to a spare screw on cap of the fluid resevoir.  With even a very
small psi over the fluid in the resevoire, it makes bleading a one man
operation with a good flow of fluid that can be watched progress through a
plastic pipe from the bleader screw.  I now have a great pedal and no
sticking brakes.  Heaven.

Cheers Roger
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 3:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC Brakes sticking

Roger,
At the risk of going down the wrong road with the description you gave:...
1. Depress foot on brakes with car running and front or rear brakes remain
on.
***A. Due to your ".au" address, I am thinking that you have a single
braking system with one brake servo.
***B. I am believing that you have your car on jack stands and can test with
the engine running
>>>>Try to spin the wheels by hand
>>>>If the wheels are hard to spin
>>>>>>>Remove the vacuum hose as it is attached to the servo can
>>>>Can you spin the wheels now?
*******If so, it sounds like you have an air control valve problem
>>>>Remove the white nylon cap on the air control valve
>>>>Remove the white nylon plate from the air control valve
>>>>Place a heavy rag over the air control valve
>>>>Depress the brake pedal and capture the air control piston in the rag
>>>>Do you see a rust film or brown dust on the piston?
>>>>If so, the air control valve is sticking which is one cause of brakes
>>>>holding on.
#######I was able to execute an "in place" fix for that problem on my car
instead to having to do a complete "re & re" and servo rebuild.

++++++ You didn't mention if all the wheels were sticking, just rear, or
just front.

Eric

"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975

--- On Sun, 6/6/10, roger matheson <roger.matheson at bigpond.com> wrote:

> From: roger matheson <roger.matheson at bigpond.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC Brakes sticking
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 12:53 AM
> Hi All
>
> My brakes are sticking slightly, and I would be glad of
> advice on rectification. I have a early 70's 2000
> manual with a pressure brake light switch. I have just
> replaced the rear pads and the callipers appear to be
> working correctly. The rear hoses appear to be
> relatively new. I am happy to change the master
> cylinder, booster and front hoses, but what should I do
> first ??
>
> Cheers Roger
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From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com  Sun Jun 13 17:34:34 2010
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:34:34 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Digest, Vol 82, Issue 1
References: <mailman.39.1276349805.16327.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
Message-ID: <SNT105-W10713CE77611CB649F13BC8EDB0@phx.gbl>

> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:12:06 +0200
> From: <RoverP6 at gmx.de>
> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Searching for P6 owner....
> Message-ID: <2613D9E4407E4907AFA7BAB8A01B5A2D at rw>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>
>
> http://justacargeek.blogspot.com/2010/02/1970-rover-3500s-p6.html
>
>
> Is the owner registered here on Rovernet ?
>
>
> Rudiger
> www.RoverP6.info

I think that it is David Sheuring's Rover. He did have a website with a photo, but it seems to be down at the moment. He is on here sometimes.

James.

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From RoverP6 at gmx.de  Mon Jun 14 03:52:47 2010
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 10:52:47 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Digest, Vol 82, Issue 1
References: <mailman.39.1276349805.16327.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
<SNT105-W10713CE77611CB649F13BC8EDB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <90C376B703B64DB68AFD555BE293BF3E@rw>

Thanks for this info, James

Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
An: "Rover Net" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Gesendet: Montag, 14. Juni 2010 00:34
Betreff: Re: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Digest, Vol 82, Issue 1

>
>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:12:06 +0200
>> From: <RoverP6 at gmx.de>
>> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>> Subject: [Rovernet ] Searching for P6 owner....
>> Message-ID: <2613D9E4407E4907AFA7BAB8A01B5A2D at rw>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>
>>
>> http://justacargeek.blogspot.com/2010/02/1970-rover-3500s-p6.html
>>
>>
>> Is the owner registered here on Rovernet ?
>>
>>
>> Rudiger
>> www.RoverP6.info
>
> I think that it is David Sheuring's Rover. He did have a website with a photo,
> but it seems to be down at the moment. He is on here sometimes.
>
>
> James.
>
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From paterson.dave at sympatico.ca  Mon Jun 14 16:16:41 2010
From: paterson.dave at sympatico.ca (DAVID PATERSON)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:16:41 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] 71 TC & some parts for sale
References: <224787.82904.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
<4C13ACF8.1080206@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <SNT139-w26940BF688D7F863C54E1889DC0@phx.gbl>

Just a test.

> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:51:20 -0400
> From: rovercar at comcast.net
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] 71 TC & some parts for sale
>
> On 06/12/2010 08:18 AM, Jim Cumberland wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > My 1971 NADA 2000 TC "Dora" is for sale.
>
> Well, that's certainly a beautiful example of a Series 2 P6. Someone
> should snap that one up immediately! Don't let some non-Rovernetter get it!
>
> Glen
>
>
>
>
> > I am asking $4500/offer. Some very recent pics are here: > > > > http://picasaweb.google.com/fjcumberland/1971Rover2000TC02?authkey=Gv1sRgCKr0v7S9l4artgE&feat=directlink > > > > The car is running really well, and looks great. Her center console is out because we had just changed the gearshift lever. > > > > It was a diplomatic import into DC that was bought when it was 6 months old by a Rover enthusiast in MD named Bill Kumm. He immediately loaded it up with just about every conceivable Rover option (including Sundym windows and Delanair AC). I bought it from him in 2002. He refurbished it in 1999. Original color is Mexico Brown. The interior is the original one - it is Sandalwood. The blue is a Chrysler color - the best way I can describe it is "Richard Petty Blue." In my opinion it suits the car very well. I have the Heritage Certificate for it. > > > > I am culling the fleet because I am in the midst of moving from SC to Buffalo this summer. I'm selling the Rover because all my other stuff is Mini/Landcrab/Metro - I've already sold my MG 1100 and will have my Austin 1300 estate for sale (and possibly my Radford Cooper S as well). Dora has been a great car, and I and my kids (especially my daughter) have enjoyed her immensely, but I want to concentrate on Minis and the Crab and Metro (yes, I have a soft spot for underappreciated BL tin. One day I will own a Maxi. Probably in some horrible color (though my cars tend to be blue or green . . . .). > > > > The Rover will come with some mechancial spares. I also have a spare engine& manual box that came with her (it might be her original engine - I cannot remember, but probably can figure that out), and a 2 litre TC engine w/manual box and a 2.2L w/auto box that I bought from the UK. I'm asking$375 ono for each of those 2 spare engines, or they can go with the car.
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> > Cheers,
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 15 13:09:57 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:09:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover Project for sale. BC, Canada
Message-ID: <791337.59620.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Further to an earlier message that a former member of the RCCC has to sell his Rover interest due to ill health, some developments have taken place.

The blue 2000 TC has been sold to a local enthusiast.
The enthusiast reported that both cars were well stored in dry conditions. The son, who is doing his best to manage the sale, is not a Rover expert. However, information through this list and on the website have generated enough questions and answers that the son has provided a narrative in a question and answer format and we have posted these with pictures as a web album in our "Rovers For Sale" section of the RCCC website.

You can find the new information on the remaining white Rover here:
http://www.roverclub.ca/roversforsale.htm

Eric

"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975

From fjcumberland at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 15 15:57:51 2010
From: fjcumberland at yahoo.com (Jim Cumberland)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:57:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] 71 TC & some parts for sale
References: <224787.82904.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<4C13ACF8.1080206@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <58334.83110.qm@web34207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks Glen!?

________________________________
From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
To: The original Rovernet ... <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sat, June 12, 2010 11:51:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] 71 TC & some parts for sale

On 06/12/2010 08:18 AM, Jim Cumberland wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> My 1971 NADA 2000 TC "Dora" is for sale.

Well, that's certainly a beautiful example of a Series 2 P6.? Someone
should snap that one up immediately! Don't let some non-Rovernetter get it!

Glen

>? ? I am asking $4500/offer.? Some very recent pics are here: > > http://picasaweb.google.com/fjcumberland/1971Rover2000TC02?authkey=Gv1sRgCKr0v7S9l4artgE&feat=directlink > > The car is running really well, and looks great.? Her center console is out because we had just changed the gearshift lever. > > It was a diplomatic import into DC that was bought when it was 6 months old by a Rover enthusiast in MD named Bill Kumm.? He immediately loaded it up with just about every conceivable Rover option (including Sundym windows and Delanair AC).? I bought it from him in 2002.? He refurbished it in 1999.? Original color is Mexico Brown.? The interior is the original one - it is Sandalwood.? The blue is a Chrysler color - the best way I can describe it is "Richard Petty Blue." In my opinion it suits the car very well.? I have the Heritage Certificate for it. > > I am culling the fleet because I am in the midst of moving from SC to Buffalo this summer.? I'm selling the Rover because all my other stuff is Mini/Landcrab/Metro - I've already sold my MG 1100 and will have my Austin 1300 estate for sale (and possibly my Radford Cooper S as well).? Dora has been a great car, and I and my kids (especially my daughter) have enjoyed her immensely, but I want to concentrate on Minis and the Crab and Metro (yes, I have a soft spot for underappreciated BL tin.? One day I will own a Maxi.? Probably in some horrible color (though my cars tend to be blue or green . . . .). > > The Rover will come with some mechancial spares.? I also have a spare engine&? manual box that came with her (it might be her original engine - I cannot remember, but probably can figure that out), and a 2 litre TC engine w/manual box and a 2.2L w/auto box that I bought from the UK.? I'm asking$375 ono for each of those 2 spare engines, or they can go with the car.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jim
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From fjcumberland at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 15 15:58:58 2010
From: fjcumberland at yahoo.com (Jim Cumberland)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:58:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] 71 TC & some parts for sale
References: <224787.82904.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<4C13ACF8.1080206@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <246945.14668.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks - she is a really great car, and the color does suit her.

________________________________
From: Steven Dibdin <sdibdin at hotmail.com>
To: The original Rovernet ... <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sat, June 12, 2010 2:45:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] 71 TC & some parts for sale

Dora is a beautiful example of a S1.5 very nice with that colour too. With Rolly going through his rejuvination I can't afford to take her. But god she's a tempting prospect.

On Jun 12, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote:

> On 06/12/2010 08:18 AM, Jim Cumberland wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> My 1971 NADA 2000 TC "Dora" is for sale.
>
> Well, that's certainly a beautiful example of a Series 2 P6.? Someone should snap that one up immediately! Don't let some non-Rovernetter get it!
>
> Glen
>
>
>
>
>>? I am asking $4500/offer.? Some very recent pics are here: >> >> http://picasaweb.google.com/fjcumberland/1971Rover2000TC02?authkey=Gv1sRgCKr0v7S9l4artgE&feat=directlink >> >> The car is running really well, and looks great.? Her center console is out because we had just changed the gearshift lever. >> >> It was a diplomatic import into DC that was bought when it was 6 months old by a Rover enthusiast in MD named Bill Kumm.? He immediately loaded it up with just about every conceivable Rover option (including Sundym windows and Delanair AC).? I bought it from him in 2002.? He refurbished it in 1999.? Original color is Mexico Brown.? The interior is the original one - it is Sandalwood.? The blue is a Chrysler color - the best way I can describe it is "Richard Petty Blue." In my opinion it suits the car very well.? I have the Heritage Certificate for it. >> >> I am culling the fleet because I am in the midst of moving from SC to Buffalo this summer.? I'm selling the Rover because all my other stuff is Mini/Landcrab/Metro - I've already sold my MG 1100 and will have my Austin 1300 estate for sale (and possibly my Radford Cooper S as well).? Dora has been a great car, and I and my kids (especially my daughter) have enjoyed her immensely, but I want to concentrate on Minis and the Crab and Metro (yes, I have a soft spot for underappreciated BL tin.? One day I will own a Maxi.? Probably in some horrible color (though my cars tend to be blue or green . . . .). >> >> The Rover will come with some mechancial spares.? I also have a spare engine&? manual box that came with her (it might be her original engine - I cannot remember, but probably can figure that out), and a 2 litre TC engine w/manual box and a 2.2L w/auto box that I bought from the UK.? I'm asking$375 ono for each of those 2 spare engines, or they can go with the car.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jim
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From nathanobuch at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 15 17:06:18 2010
From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com (Nathan Obuch)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:06:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rear caliper rebuild p6
Message-ID: <567664.74629.qm@web110316.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Rovernetters-

My epic rear p6 caliper rebuild continues- I have a few questions and that'll hopefully be the end of it!

1.) What, if anything do you folks use to replace the anti corrosive paper under the caliper covers?

2.) Is there a diagram showing the caliper hose & bleeder screw positions?

I have the late setup with (I think!) a hose from the body to one caliper, a hose which connects it to a bracket on the other caliper leading to a short piece of hard line going into the caliper itself and a single bleed screw.

Cheers,
Nathan

From vmitps at netspace.net.au  Tue Jun 15 17:29:16 2010
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 08:29:16 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rear caliper rebuild p6
References: <567664.74629.qm@web110316.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2D85B3331F7E4EE984BE893680E63A3C@Vista>

1.  Rice.  I put 20 grains or so.  If you are really neat, sew them into a
bag.
2.  The body hose attaches to the top hole of the right caliper.  The joiner
hose attaches to the bottom hole of the right caliper and the top hole of
the left caliper.  The bleed goes in the bottom hole of the left caliper.
This is counterintuitive for bleeding, but it does work.

PVS

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nathan Obuch" <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
To: "NEW RovernetRovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 8:06 AM
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rear caliper rebuild p6

> Rovernetters-
>
> My epic rear p6 caliper rebuild continues- I have a few questions and
> that'll hopefully be the end of it!
>
> 1.) What, if anything do you folks use to replace the anti corrosive paper
> under the caliper covers?
>
> 2.) Is there a diagram showing the caliper hose & bleeder screw positions?
>
> I have the late setup with (I think!) a hose from the body to one caliper,
> a hose which connects it to a bracket on the other caliper leading to a
> short piece of hard line going into the caliper itself and a single bleed
> screw.
>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
>
>
>
>
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
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From vern at inkspotco.com  Tue Jun 15 18:17:52 2010
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 16:17:52 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rear caliper rebuild p6
References: <567664.74629.qm@web110316.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E07CEE58-E919-4259-B031-AE3CC89ED078@inkspotco.com>

It's not the end of the world if you don't have the paper, particularly if the car not going to be driven much in inclement weather. What I have done in the past is bugged my local auto parts store for a piece from the package of some part that had the A/C paper in the box for shipping.

The hose from the body to the RH caliper goes in the upper hole (75% sure). The cross hose goes from the lower RH hole to the upper LH caliper hole, and the bleed screw goes in the lower hole of the LH caliper.

Yours
Vern

On 2010-06-15, at 3:06 PM, Nathan Obuch wrote:

> Rovernetters-
>
> My epic rear p6 caliper rebuild continues- I have a few questions and that'll hopefully be the end of it!
>
> 1.) What, if anything do you folks use to replace the anti corrosive paper under the caliper covers?
>
> 2.) Is there a diagram showing the caliper hose & bleeder screw positions?
>
> I have the late setup with (I think!) a hose from the body to one caliper, a hose which connects it to a bracket on the other caliper leading to a short piece of hard line going into the caliper itself and a single bleed screw.
>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
>
>
>
>
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From nathanobuch at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 15 19:03:12 2010
From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com (Nathan Obuch)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 17:03:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rear caliper rebuild p6
Message-ID: <262008.56059.qm@web110304.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Thanks Vern & PVS!

That IS strange routing for the hoses & the bleed screw, given that air rises.

Nathan

> From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Rear caliper rebuild p6
> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 6:17 PM
> It's not the end of the world if you
> don't have the paper, particularly if the car not going to
> be driven much in inclement weather. What I have done in the
> past is bugged my local auto parts store for a piece from
> the package of some part that had the A/C paper in the box
> for shipping.
>
> The hose from the body to the RH caliper goes in the upper
> hole (75% sure). The cross hose goes from the lower RH hole
> to the upper LH caliper hole, and the bleed screw goes in
> the lower hole of the LH caliper.
>
> Yours
> Vern
>
>
> On 2010-06-15, at 3:06 PM, Nathan Obuch wrote:
>
> > Rovernetters-
> >
> > My epic rear p6 caliper rebuild continues- I have a
> few questions and that'll hopefully be the end of it!
> >
> > 1.) What, if anything do you folks use to replace the
> anti corrosive paper under the caliper covers?
> >
> > 2.) Is there a diagram showing the caliper hose &
> bleeder screw positions?
> >
> > I have the late setup with (I think!) a hose from the
> body to one caliper, a hose which connects it to a bracket
> on the other caliper leading to a short piece of hard line
> going into the caliper itself and a single bleed screw.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Nathan
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 15 22:36:23 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 20:36:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rear caliper rebuild p6
Message-ID: <50747.44694.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'll tackle the paper question :-)

What about using brown wrapping paper (about 1/2 inch X 3 inches and rubbing rubber grease (brake grease) into both sides of the paper.

Lay the paper on top of the studs and press the paper onto the studs to form depressions. (Try not to get too depressed, yourself)

Then use a box cutter or other sharp thing to cut the holes (or you might have a fancy set of gasket cutting tools)

Oh,..... I agree with Vern and Paul about which gets connected to which hole.

The question of logic for hose and bleeding hole location? Wouldn't you like to be able to give the caliper designers a shake ask what they were thinking?  LOL

Eric
(On the way to Dirk's event in Mass.)

"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975

--- On Tue, 6/15/10, Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Rear caliper rebuild p6
> To: "NEW RovernetRovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 3:06 PM
> Rovernetters-
>
> My epic rear p6 caliper rebuild continues- I have a few
> questions and that'll hopefully be the end of it!
>
> 1.) What, if anything do you folks use to replace the anti
> corrosive paper under the caliper covers?
>
> 2.) Is there a diagram showing the caliper hose &
> bleeder screw positions?
>
> I have the late setup with (I think!) a hose from the body
> to one caliper, a hose which connects it to a bracket on the
> other caliper leading to a short piece of hard line going
> into the caliper itself and a single bleed screw.
>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
>
>
> ? ? ?
>
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From james.moison at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 00:42:53 2010
From: james.moison at gmail.com (james moison)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 23:42:53 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rear caliper rebuild p6
References: <567664.74629.qm@web110316.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin9vQirhY-YkeJx4ZBlM8yfE9cva0YtjT7hY0Sk@mail.gmail.com>

Silica packets that come with electronics, vitamins etc.   I use paper that
bearings come wrapped in too.

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Rovernetters-
>
> My epic rear p6 caliper rebuild continues- I have a few questions and
> that'll hopefully be the end of it!
>
> 1.) What, if anything do you folks use to replace the anti corrosive paper
> under the caliper covers?
>
> 2.) Is there a diagram showing the caliper hose & bleeder screw positions?
>
> I have the late setup with (I think!) a hose from the body to one caliper,
> a hose which connects it to a bracket on the other caliper leading to a
> short piece of hard line going into the caliper itself and a single bleed
> screw.
>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
>
>
>
>
> to scroll down the whole page.
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From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com (Nathan Obuch)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:00:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rear caliper rebuild p6
Message-ID: <581713.19451.qm@web110311.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

--- On Tue, 6/15/10, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> Wouldn't you like to be able to give the caliper designers a
> shake ask what they were thinking?? LOL
>
> Eric

Well, Spencer King (designer of the P6 and SD1) is supposedly in the hospital with brain damgage and a heart attack following a bicycle > truck collision he was recently involved in. (I heard this on an internet forum, so it's possible it's not accurate.) I'd say that we should hold off on any shaking 'till further notice. :-)

Kidding aside, it's a shame this has happened to such a talented man late in his life and I'm sure we are all hoping against hope that he is able to make a recovery.

Nathan

From robertime at cavtel.net  Wed Jun 16 13:22:11 2010
From: robertime at cavtel.net (ROBERT HEIMERL)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:22:11 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover Project for sale. BC, Canada
References: <791337.59620.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilTEbvvfkRDSEaTrJqAGzcwZhBKIryv4JWDN4cU@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Eric,

Hope you're doing well.  I'm afraid I won't be coming to the Rover event
this year.  Although I was able to get one of my SD1's going again (after it
stopped on the road miles from here last December and was brought home on a
rollback truck), I'm still not very confident in its reliability and will
monitor it locally before taking a longer trip.  The problem -- if anyone on
Rovernet cares to know -- was that a serrated washer on a ground wire at the
rear of the left cylinder head had managed to come loose/break/fall out due
to vibration, etc.  It took nearly 5 months for me to discover this, after
having checked every component/system on the car (this connection grounds
the fuel injection and its computer). Had lots of suggestions as to the
source of the failure, but everyone thought it was something other than what
it turned out to be -- which was very frustrating.  This ground wire/earth
is in a very inaccessible location and appeared fine (on the surface, at
least, since the wiring did not seem to be loose).  The motor would run for
a few seconds, then die off -- despite having both fuel and good spark. Fuel
pump was fine, too.  This was quite a mystery, took far too long to solve!

Chris Powell -- the historian of the SD1 club in the UK -- will be attending
the MA event once more.  I am planning to meet him in the NY/NJ area on
either Sunday or Monday following Dirk's gathering, bring him back to the
Washington, DC area where we'll continue some Rover sight-seeing, courtesy
calls to other owners, etc.

On another subject, I wanted to ask if anyone else noticed that the white P6
project that's still for sale (in BC) appears to have an SD1 5 speed in it
-- not a factory installation, of course, but one that I've heard P6B owners
discuss before.

Hope you'll have a good time at RoverAmerica!   Please give my regards to
Dirk and the other folks there -- maybe I'll make it next year.

Best regards,

Robert

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Further to an earlier message that a former member of the RCCC has to sell
> his Rover interest due to ill health, some developments have taken place.
>
> The blue 2000 TC has been sold to a local enthusiast.
> The enthusiast reported that both cars were well stored in dry conditions.
> The son, who is doing his best to manage the sale, is not a Rover expert.
> However, information through this list and on the website have generated
> enough questions and answers that the son has provided a narrative in a
> question and answer format and we have posted these with pictures as a web
> album in our "Rovers For Sale" section of the RCCC website.
>
> You can find the new information on the remaining white Rover here:
> http://www.roverclub.ca/roversforsale.htm
>
> Eric
>
>
> "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
> "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
>
>
>
> to scroll down the whole page.
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From kkinard at att.net  Wed Jun 16 15:18:01 2010
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 15:18:01 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover Project for sale. BC, Canada
References: <791337.59620.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<AANLkTilTEbvvfkRDSEaTrJqAGzcwZhBKIryv4JWDN4cU@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C193179.70206@att.net>

Hi Robert,
You are rather fortunate with the ground fault. I had the same problem
with one of my SD1's and the system grounded back through the throttle
cable and started a fire from the nylon cable sheath!! Run an extra
ground (insulated cable) for insurance. Mine looked perfectly good.

Will miss you at Dirk's.

Roverly,
Kent K.

ROBERT HEIMERL wrote:
> Hi Eric,
>
> Hope you're doing well.  I'm afraid I won't be coming to the Rover event
> this year.  Although I was able to get one of my SD1's going again (after it
> stopped on the road miles from here last December and was brought home on a
> rollback truck), I'm still not very confident in its reliability and will
> monitor it locally before taking a longer trip.  The problem -- if anyone on
> Rovernet cares to know -- was that a serrated washer on a ground wire at the
> rear of the left cylinder head had managed to come loose/break/fall out due
> to vibration, etc.  It took nearly 5 months for me to discover this, after
> having checked every component/system on the car (this connection grounds
> the fuel injection and its computer). Had lots of suggestions as to the
> source of the failure, but everyone thought it was something other than what
> it turned out to be -- which was very frustrating.  This ground wire/earth
> is in a very inaccessible location and appeared fine (on the surface, at
> least, since the wiring did not seem to be loose).  The motor would run for
> a few seconds, then die off -- despite having both fuel and good spark. Fuel
> pump was fine, too.  This was quite a mystery, took far too long to solve!
>

From fjcumberland at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 16 16:19:57 2010
From: fjcumberland at yahoo.com (Jim Cumberland)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:19:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] 71 TC & some parts for sale
References: <224787.82904.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<5ED21CFC-4F9D-40EA-BBBC-EB3C5A8C35C1@inkspotco.com>
Message-ID: <565407.82134.qm@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I really love mine - it's an auto.? It handles much better than an 1100/1300 - much more like a Mini.? The left front suspension hose on mine developed a leak - a friend and I fixed it.? We were amazed at how easy it was to get the displacer out - no need to touch the engine or gearbox.? Brilliant design.

It is cosmetically challenged on the inside - the headliner is horrible, and some of the seat covers have gone, but it's all fixable.

Cheers,

Jim

________________________________
From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com>
To: The original Rovernet ... <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sat, June 12, 2010 8:52:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] 71 TC & some parts for sale

I love the Landcrab. Owned a red automatic version for a short time, when it suffered the slings and arrow of first being driven over a traffic island one drunken night, ripping the bottom of the trans off (I had been left on the deserted beach with my just that night ex-girlfriend while we searched for the keys to her Mini in the sand. Ah, youth. But I digress.

I fixed that, but six months or so later I came out of a blind driveway and into traffic which put paid to car. Anyway, very nice car for basic transportation, one of the best BL ever designed.

Yours
Vern

On 2010-06-12, at 5:18 AM, Jim Cumberland wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> My 1971 NADA 2000 TC "Dora" is for sale.? I am asking $4500/offer.? Some very recent pics are here: > > http://picasaweb.google.com/fjcumberland/1971Rover2000TC02?authkey=Gv1sRgCKr0v7S9l4artgE&feat=directlink > > The car is running really well, and looks great.? Her center console is out because we had just changed the gearshift lever. > > It was a diplomatic import into DC that was bought when it was 6 months old by a Rover enthusiast in MD named Bill Kumm.? He immediately loaded it up with just about every conceivable Rover option (including Sundym windows and Delanair AC).? I bought it from him in 2002.? He refurbished it in 1999.? Original color is Mexico Brown.? The interior is the original one - it is Sandalwood.? The blue is a Chrysler color - the best way I can describe it is "Richard Petty Blue." In my opinion it suits the car very well.? I have the Heritage Certificate for it. > > I am culling the fleet because I am in the midst of moving from SC to Buffalo this summer.? I'm selling the Rover because all my other stuff is Mini/Landcrab/Metro - I've already sold my MG 1100 and will have my Austin 1300 estate for sale (and possibly my Radford Cooper S as well).? Dora has been a great car, and I and my kids (especially my daughter) have enjoyed her immensely, but I want to concentrate on Minis and the Crab and Metro (yes, I have a soft spot for underappreciated BL tin.? One day I will own a Maxi.? Probably in some horrible color (though my cars tend to be blue or green . . . .). > > The Rover will come with some mechancial spares.? I also have a spare engine & manual box that came with her (it might be her original engine - I cannot remember, but probably can figure that out), and a 2 litre TC engine w/manual box and a 2.2L w/auto box that I bought from the UK.? I'm asking$375 ono for each of those 2 spare engines, or they can go with the car.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jim
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From sdibdin at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 16:29:29 2010
From: sdibdin at gmail.com (Steven Dibdin)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 17:29:29 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover Project for sale. BC, Canada
References: <791337.59620.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<AANLkTilTEbvvfkRDSEaTrJqAGzcwZhBKIryv4JWDN4cU@mail.gmail.com>
<4C193179.70206@att.net>
Message-ID: <1613A0C0-081B-4C10-A400-D4D20D3224D9@gmail.com>

Hi Kent

You'll be at Dirk's as well this weekend? It'll be great to meet you
in person.

Steven

On Jun 16, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> wrote:

> Hi Robert,
> You are rather fortunate with the ground fault. I had the same
> problem with one of my SD1's and the system grounded back through
> the throttle cable and started a fire from the nylon cable sheath!!
> Run an extra ground (insulated cable) for insurance. Mine looked
> perfectly good.
>
> Will miss you at Dirk's.
>
> Roverly,
> Kent K.
>
> ROBERT HEIMERL wrote:
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> Hope you're doing well.  I'm afraid I won't be coming to the Rover
>> event
>> this year.  Although I was able to get one of my SD1's going again
>> (after it
>> stopped on the road miles from here last December and was brought
>> home on a
>> rollback truck), I'm still not very confident in its reliability
>> and will
>> monitor it locally before taking a longer trip.  The problem -- if
>> anyone on
>> Rovernet cares to know -- was that a serrated washer on a ground
>> wire at the
>> rear of the left cylinder head had managed to come loose/break/fall
>> out due
>> to vibration, etc.  It took nearly 5 months for me to discover
>> this, after
>> having checked every component/system on the car (this connection
>> grounds
>> the fuel injection and its computer). Had lots of suggestions as to
>> the
>> source of the failure, but everyone thought it was something other
>> than what
>> it turned out to be -- which was very frustrating.  This ground
>> wire/earth
>> is in a very inaccessible location and appeared fine (on the
>> surface, at
>> least, since the wiring did not seem to be loose).  The motor would
>> run for
>> a few seconds, then die off -- despite having both fuel and good
>> spark. Fuel
>> pump was fine, too.  This was quite a mystery, took far too long to
>> solve!
>>
>
>
> Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca

From robertime at cavtel.net  Wed Jun 16 17:21:12 2010
From: robertime at cavtel.net (ROBERT HEIMERL)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 18:21:12 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover Project for sale. BC, Canada
References: <791337.59620.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<AANLkTilTEbvvfkRDSEaTrJqAGzcwZhBKIryv4JWDN4cU@mail.gmail.com>
<4C193179.70206@att.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilbZl23Ddby0DbN7-UeOCJjX68qlk2i6_TPxGBE@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, Kent.  Hope you'll have good weather for the event!

Robert

PS: Chris and I will be looking at my Persian Aqua car while he's visiting.
At least I made sure it's not the ground on that one -- it cranks unevenly,
has an after-market ignition that I don't trust much (even though it has
plenty of spark).

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> wrote:

> Hi Robert,
> You are rather fortunate with the ground fault. I had the same problem with
> one of my SD1's and the system grounded back through the throttle cable and
> started a fire from the nylon cable sheath!! Run an extra ground (insulated
> cable) for insurance. Mine looked perfectly good.
>
> Will miss you at Dirk's.
>
> Roverly,
> Kent K.
>
>
> ROBERT HEIMERL wrote:
>
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> Hope you're doing well.  I'm afraid I won't be coming to the Rover event
>> this year.  Although I was able to get one of my SD1's going again (after
>> it
>> stopped on the road miles from here last December and was brought home on
>> a
>> rollback truck), I'm still not very confident in its reliability and will
>> monitor it locally before taking a longer trip.  The problem -- if anyone
>> on
>> Rovernet cares to know -- was that a serrated washer on a ground wire at
>> the
>> rear of the left cylinder head had managed to come loose/break/fall out
>> due
>> to vibration, etc.  It took nearly 5 months for me to discover this, after
>> having checked every component/system on the car (this connection grounds
>> the fuel injection and its computer). Had lots of suggestions as to the
>> source of the failure, but everyone thought it was something other than
>> what
>> it turned out to be -- which was very frustrating.  This ground wire/earth
>> is in a very inaccessible location and appeared fine (on the surface, at
>> least, since the wiring did not seem to be loose).  The motor would run
>> for
>> a few seconds, then die off -- despite having both fuel and good spark.
>> Fuel
>> pump was fine, too.  This was quite a mystery, took far too long to solve!
>>
>>
>
>
> to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
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From vmitps at netspace.net.au  Wed Jun 16 17:13:57 2010
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 08:13:57 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover Project for sale. BC, Canada
References: <791337.59620.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<AANLkTilTEbvvfkRDSEaTrJqAGzcwZhBKIryv4JWDN4cU@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BBAE28E1353A473EBA608115A0EA6D2A@Vista>

SD1s in Australia were noted for The Mysterious Stop.
Just stop dead.  Would not start.
Start again the next day.

I learnt about the criticality of these earths on another car.

PVS

----- Original Message -----
From: "ROBERT HEIMERL" <robertime at cavtel.net>
To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Rover Project for sale. BC, Canada

> Hi Eric,
>
> Hope you're doing well.  I'm afraid I won't be coming to the Rover event
> this year.  Although I was able to get one of my SD1's going again (after
> it
> stopped on the road miles from here last December and was brought home on
> a
> rollback truck), I'm still not very confident in its reliability and will
> monitor it locally before taking a longer trip.  The problem -- if anyone
> on
> Rovernet cares to know -- was that a serrated washer on a ground wire at
> the
> rear of the left cylinder head had managed to come loose/break/fall out
> due
> to vibration, etc.  It took nearly 5 months for me to discover this, after
> having checked every component/system on the car (this connection grounds
> the fuel injection and its computer). Had lots of suggestions as to the
> source of the failure, but everyone thought it was something other than
> what
> it turned out to be -- which was very frustrating.  This ground wire/earth
> is in a very inaccessible location and appeared fine (on the surface, at
> least, since the wiring did not seem to be loose).  The motor would run
> for
> a few seconds, then die off -- despite having both fuel and good spark.
> Fuel
> pump was fine, too.  This was quite a mystery, took far too long to solve!
>
> Chris Powell -- the historian of the SD1 club in the UK -- will be
> attending
> the MA event once more.  I am planning to meet him in the NY/NJ area on
> either Sunday or Monday following Dirk's gathering, bring him back to the
> Washington, DC area where we'll continue some Rover sight-seeing, courtesy
> calls to other owners, etc.
>
> On another subject, I wanted to ask if anyone else noticed that the white
> P6
> project that's still for sale (in BC) appears to have an SD1 5 speed in it
> -- not a factory installation, of course, but one that I've heard P6B
> owners
> discuss before.
>
> Hope you'll have a good time at RoverAmerica!   Please give my regards to
> Dirk and the other folks there -- maybe I'll make it next year.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Robert
>
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Further to an earlier message that a former member of the RCCC has to
>> sell
>> his Rover interest due to ill health, some developments have taken place.
>>
>> The blue 2000 TC has been sold to a local enthusiast.
>> The enthusiast reported that both cars were well stored in dry
>> conditions.
>> The son, who is doing his best to manage the sale, is not a Rover expert.
>> However, information through this list and on the website have generated
>> enough questions and answers that the son has provided a narrative in a
>> question and answer format and we have posted these with pictures as a
>> web
>> album in our "Rovers For Sale" section of the RCCC website.
>>
>> You can find the new information on the remaining white Rover here:
>> http://www.roverclub.ca/roversforsale.htm
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
>> "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
>>
>>
>>
>> sure
>> to scroll down the whole page.
>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>
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From cfreeberg at juno.com  Wed Jun 16 19:18:35 2010
From: cfreeberg at juno.com (cfreeberg at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 00:18:35 GMT
Subject: [Rovernet ] Hidden ground-wire faults!
Message-ID: <20100616.171835.22746.3@webmail16.vgs.untd.com>

I had the same problem with a Ford Escort --- the system was seeking another ground and found it via the seat-belt system and the ignition --- wouldn't run, altho all sub-systems checked out ok.  Hooking up a extra (backup) ground from chassis to engine seems like a good thing.
____________________________________________________________
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From kkinard at att.net  Wed Jun 16 20:57:24 2010
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 20:57:24 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover Project for sale. BC, Canada
References: <791337.59620.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<AANLkTilTEbvvfkRDSEaTrJqAGzcwZhBKIryv4JWDN4cU@mail.gmail.com>	<4C193179.70206@att.net>
<1613A0C0-081B-4C10-A400-D4D20D3224D9@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C198104.9040102@att.net>

Affirmative. My wife and I will be there tomorrow evening (Thursday).

Roverly,
Kent K.

Steven Dibdin wrote:
> Hi Kent
>
> You'll be at Dirk's as well this weekend? It'll be great to meet you
> in person.
>
> Steven
>

From defender110 at ozemail.com.au  Wed Jun 16 23:16:31 2010
From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:46:31 +0930
Subject: [Rovernet ] Hidden ground-wire faults!
References: <20100616.171835.22746.3@webmail16.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <4C19A19F.50004@ozemail.com.au>

Hooking a battery return sized cable between the engine and ground is always a good idea to allow most of engine current (particularly the
starter motor current) to return to chassis/battery easily without relying on other paths.

When I owned a rear engined Fiat 850 Sports, I ran a 200A welding cable from the battery at the front to a lug attached to one of the starter
motor fixing bolts. I have never heard a Fiat starter motor rev so hard in all my life!! ;-)

My P6B also has an "auxiliary earth" 200A welding cable running between battery & starter motor fixing and a similar cable from the +12V to the
starter solenoid.

I recently stopped to assist someone on the side of a bush track with a stuck accelerator.
It turned out to be and inner to outer welded accelerator cable due to the starting battery current.
The cause was a broken main braided cable between engine and chassis.

Another ramification is that the dc return current may find a path through the coolant, causing electrolytic corrosion in it's path.
Some aluminium radiator cores come with a manufacturer's warning to test the voltage from coolant to chassis.
If there is more than 20mV (0.02V) difference, look for a fault in earth paths --- voids warranty if test not done by an "authorised person"
(whoever that is??)

HTH

Cheers
Dave
South Oz

On 6/17/2010 9:48 AM, cfreeberg at juno.com wrote:
> I had the same problem with a Ford Escort --- the system was seeking another ground and found it via the seat-belt system and the ignition --- wouldn't run, altho all sub-systems checked out ok.  Hooking up a extra (backup) ground from chassis to engine seems like a good thing.

From vmitps at netspace.net.au  Wed Jun 16 23:36:26 2010
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 14:36:26 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Hidden ground-wire faults!
References: <20100616.171835.22746.3@webmail16.vgs.untd.com>
<4C19A19F.50004@ozemail.com.au>
Message-ID: <1112764BF6F242CA857A1644973B1A15@Vista>

I recommend all P6s run a proper earth from the battery neg to the engine

PVS

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Read" <defender110 at ozemail.com.au>
To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Hidden ground-wire faults!

> Hooking a battery return sized cable between the engine and ground is
> always a good idea to allow most of engine current (particularly the
> on other paths.
>
> When I owned a rear engined Fiat 850 Sports, I ran a 200A welding cable
> from the battery at the front to a lug attached to one of the starter
> motor fixing bolts. I have never heard a Fiat starter motor rev so hard in
> all my life!! ;-)
>
> My P6B also has an "auxiliary earth" 200A welding cable running between
> battery & starter motor fixing and a similar cable from the +12V to the
> starter solenoid.
>
> I recently stopped to assist someone on the side of a bush track with a
> stuck accelerator.
> It turned out to be and inner to outer welded accelerator cable due to the
> starting battery current.
> The cause was a broken main braided cable between engine and chassis.
>
> Another ramification is that the dc return current may find a path through
> the coolant, causing electrolytic corrosion in it's path.
> Some aluminium radiator cores come with a manufacturer's warning to test
> the voltage from coolant to chassis.
> If there is more than 20mV (0.02V) difference, look for a fault in earth
> paths --- voids warranty if test not done by an "authorised person"
> (whoever that is??)
>
> HTH
>
> Cheers
> Dave
> South Oz
>
>
> On 6/17/2010 9:48 AM, cfreeberg at juno.com wrote:
>> I had the same problem with a Ford Escort --- the system was seeking
>> another ground and found it via the seat-belt system and the ignition ---
>> wouldn't run, altho all sub-systems checked out ok.  Hooking up a extra
>> (backup) ground from chassis to engine seems like a good thing.
>
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca

From vern at inkspotco.com  Thu Jun 17 09:49:58 2010
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 07:49:58 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Hidden ground-wire faults!
References: <20100616.171835.22746.3@webmail16.vgs.untd.com>
<4C19A19F.50004@ozemail.com.au>

And here is another ground story. Back in the day when I was wrenching for a living, we had a customer with a Fiat 124 sports car that came in with a broken clutch cable. Seemed a bit odd, but we changed it and the customer went away happy, only to show up about a week later with the same problem, no clutch. This time we took the broken cable apart, and you could see temper colours around the area of the break. That's when we looked, and sure enough the engine ground was broken, so all the starting current was running through the clutch cable to ground.

Yours
Vern

On 2010-06-16, at 9:16 PM, David Read wrote:

> Hooking a battery return sized cable between the engine and ground is always a good idea to allow most of engine current (particularly the starter motor current) to return to chassis/battery easily without relying on other paths.
>
> When I owned a rear engined Fiat 850 Sports, I ran a 200A welding cable from the battery at the front to a lug attached to one of the starter motor fixing bolts. I have never heard a Fiat starter motor rev so hard in all my life!! ;-)
>
> My P6B also has an "auxiliary earth" 200A welding cable running between battery & starter motor fixing and a similar cable from the +12V to the starter solenoid.
>
> I recently stopped to assist someone on the side of a bush track with a stuck accelerator.
> It turned out to be and inner to outer welded accelerator cable due to the starting battery current.
> The cause was a broken main braided cable between engine and chassis.
>
> Another ramification is that the dc return current may find a path through the coolant, causing electrolytic corrosion in it's path.
> Some aluminium radiator cores come with a manufacturer's warning to test the voltage from coolant to chassis.
> If there is more than 20mV (0.02V) difference, look for a fault in earth paths --- voids warranty if test not done by an "authorised person" (whoever that is??)
>
> HTH
>
> Cheers
> Dave
> South Oz
>
>
> On 6/17/2010 9:48 AM, cfreeberg at juno.com wrote:
>> I had the same problem with a Ford Escort --- the system was seeking another ground and found it via the seat-belt system and the ignition --- wouldn't run, altho all sub-systems checked out ok.  Hooking up a extra (backup) ground from chassis to engine seems like a good thing.
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca

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From sdibdin at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 10:03:52 2010
From: sdibdin at gmail.com (Steven Dibdin)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:03:52 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Hidden ground-wire faults!
References: <20100616.171835.22746.3@webmail16.vgs.untd.com>
<4C19A19F.50004@ozemail.com.au>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinBl2vEgO1Y8ne714P6J4wb2SXLnUsaz_iGA5m2@mail.gmail.com>

I remember many years ago when I had my TR7's clutch replaced in the UK I
picked it up and found they had it running for me to drive away. Bit
strange, I thought sure enough next time I tried to start the car the
accelerator cable seized and it sounded like a flat battery. Looked around
the engine bay and sure enough the earth strap was hanging from the body and
not attached to the bell housing bolt.

Needless to say I charged the garage for a new cable and never went back to
them. Having seen similar poor practices performed by garages on the Rover
before my ownership I'm glad to say that I do all my own mechanical work.
That way I can screw up my own car in my own time :-)

Cheers,

Steven

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote:

> And here is another ground story. Back in the day when I was wrenching for
> a living, we had a customer with a Fiat 124 sports car that came in with a
> broken clutch cable. Seemed a bit odd, but we changed it and the customer
> went away happy, only to show up about a week later with the same problem,
> no clutch. This time we took the broken cable apart, and you could see
> temper colours around the area of the break. That's when we looked, and sure
> enough the engine ground was broken, so all the starting current was running
> through the clutch cable to ground.
>
> Yours
> Vern
>
>
> On 2010-06-16, at 9:16 PM, David Read wrote:
>
> > Hooking a battery return sized cable between the engine and ground is
> always a good idea to allow most of engine current (particularly the starter
> motor current) to return to chassis/battery easily without relying on other
> paths.
> >
> > When I owned a rear engined Fiat 850 Sports, I ran a 200A welding cable
> from the battery at the front to a lug attached to one of the starter motor
> fixing bolts. I have never heard a Fiat starter motor rev so hard in all my
> life!! ;-)
> >
> > My P6B also has an "auxiliary earth" 200A welding cable running between
> battery & starter motor fixing and a similar cable from the +12V to the
> starter solenoid.
> >
> > I recently stopped to assist someone on the side of a bush track with a
> stuck accelerator.
> > It turned out to be and inner to outer welded accelerator cable due to
> the starting battery current.
> > The cause was a broken main braided cable between engine and chassis.
> >
> > Another ramification is that the dc return current may find a path
> through the coolant, causing electrolytic corrosion in it's path.
> > Some aluminium radiator cores come with a manufacturer's warning to test
> the voltage from coolant to chassis.
> > If there is more than 20mV (0.02V) difference, look for a fault in earth
> paths --- voids warranty if test not done by an "authorised person" (whoever
> that is??)
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Cheers
> > Dave
> > South Oz
> >
> >
> > On 6/17/2010 9:48 AM, cfreeberg at juno.com wrote:
> >> I had the same problem with a Ford Escort --- the system was seeking
> another ground and found it via the seat-belt system and the ignition ---
> wouldn't run, altho all sub-systems checked out ok.  Hooking up a extra
> (backup) ground from chassis to engine seems like a good thing.
> >
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
> Inkspot Type & Design   250 864 5619    in at inkspotco.com
>
>
>
>
>
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From robertime at cavtel.net  Thu Jun 17 10:11:07 2010
From: robertime at cavtel.net (ROBERT HEIMERL)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:11:07 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Hidden ground-wire faults!
References: <20100616.171835.22746.3@webmail16.vgs.untd.com>
<4C19A19F.50004@ozemail.com.au>
<AANLkTinBl2vEgO1Y8ne714P6J4wb2SXLnUsaz_iGA5m2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinZiGlV-t8VOqBP1MqXp59ky2NmGhmUF0HoVVkh@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, Stephen, I laughed out loud when I read the last line of your posting
-- I know exactly what you mean!

Robert

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Steven Dibdin <sdibdin at gmail.com> wrote:

> I remember many years ago when I had my TR7's clutch replaced in the UK I
> picked it up and found they had it running for me to drive away. Bit
> strange, I thought sure enough next time I tried to start the car the
> accelerator cable seized and it sounded like a flat battery. Looked around
> the engine bay and sure enough the earth strap was hanging from the body
> and
> not attached to the bell housing bolt.
>
> Needless to say I charged the garage for a new cable and never went back to
> them. Having seen similar poor practices performed by garages on the Rover
> before my ownership I'm glad to say that I do all my own mechanical work.
> That way I can screw up my own car in my own time :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Steven
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote:
>
> > And here is another ground story. Back in the day when I was wrenching
> for
> > a living, we had a customer with a Fiat 124 sports car that came in with
> a
> > broken clutch cable. Seemed a bit odd, but we changed it and the customer
> > went away happy, only to show up about a week later with the same
> problem,
> > no clutch. This time we took the broken cable apart, and you could see
> > temper colours around the area of the break. That's when we looked, and
> sure
> > enough the engine ground was broken, so all the starting current was
> running
> > through the clutch cable to ground.
> >
> > Yours
> > Vern
> >
> >
> > On 2010-06-16, at 9:16 PM, David Read wrote:
> >
> > > Hooking a battery return sized cable between the engine and ground is
> > always a good idea to allow most of engine current (particularly the
> starter
> > motor current) to return to chassis/battery easily without relying on
> other
> > paths.
> > >
> > > When I owned a rear engined Fiat 850 Sports, I ran a 200A welding cable
> > from the battery at the front to a lug attached to one of the starter
> motor
> > fixing bolts. I have never heard a Fiat starter motor rev so hard in all
> my
> > life!! ;-)
> > >
> > > My P6B also has an "auxiliary earth" 200A welding cable running between
> > battery & starter motor fixing and a similar cable from the +12V to the
> > starter solenoid.
> > >
> > > I recently stopped to assist someone on the side of a bush track with a
> > stuck accelerator.
> > > It turned out to be and inner to outer welded accelerator cable due to
> > the starting battery current.
> > > The cause was a broken main braided cable between engine and chassis.
> > >
> > > Another ramification is that the dc return current may find a path
> > through the coolant, causing electrolytic corrosion in it's path.
> > > Some aluminium radiator cores come with a manufacturer's warning to
> test
> > the voltage from coolant to chassis.
> > > If there is more than 20mV (0.02V) difference, look for a fault in
> earth
> > paths --- voids warranty if test not done by an "authorised person"
> (whoever
> > that is??)
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Dave
> > > South Oz
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6/17/2010 9:48 AM, cfreeberg at juno.com wrote:
> > >> I had the same problem with a Ford Escort --- the system was seeking
> > another ground and found it via the seat-belt system and the ignition ---
> > wouldn't run, altho all sub-systems checked out ok.  Hooking up a extra
> > (backup) ground from chassis to engine seems like a good thing.
> > >
> > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
> > sure to scroll down the whole page.
> > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > to scroll down the whole page.
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From slatskars at comcast.net  Thu Jun 17 13:46:13 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 18:46:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Hidden ground-wire faults!
Message-ID: <304449197.5127551276800373323.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

I had an intermittent starting problem years ago on a 1966 Mercedes 200D that was driving me buggy. I had taken it to two different dealers over a period of time, had the starter replaced as well as the glowplug/starter switch. I wanted to drive it on a trip and was laying in bed one morning mentally going through the wiring. The battery was mounted in a box on the inner fender (metal on a MB) with the ground wire connected immediately below the box. I thought, I don't remember seeing a ground strap on the bell housing and if there isn't one, I will install one. I went out raised the hood, searched around, found it with a loos connection on the upper (bell housing) end. Tightened it, end of troubles. I later noticed that a few cables such as throttle cables, etc. had been warmed enough to affect the plastic coating. A diesel starter draws a lot of current. This was over a period of nine months and as I said two dealers shops. I am with Steven, I prefer to "break" my own cars. I had a bad experience on my first new car, a 1958 Volvo 444. I was having new shafts installed on my SU carbs and the "American sports car mechanic" was having difficulty with trying to drill the holes for the tapered pins for the throttle hardware at the right angle. I told him how to do it, but he was too thick to understand what I said, and said, I'll get it. He then proceeded to break a tab on the car body when trying to get the shaft installed. They gave me another used body?and worked up another shaft. I was a little milder in those days. I knew the owner of the shop quite well and told him that would be the last time that I pay someone dumber than I to break my car. His old Swedish mechanic had recently retired. That started my journey to becoming quite knowledgeable about SU carbs. Also, had my first venture with?distributors on that car.?Now I regularly do tech sessions on carbs, ignitions systems, fuel pumps, etc.

Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vern Klukas" <vern at inkspotco.com>
To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 7:49:58 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Hidden ground-wire faults!

And here is another ground story. Back in the day when I was wrenching for a living, we had a customer with a Fiat 124 sports car that came in with a broken clutch cable. Seemed a bit odd, but we changed it and the customer went away happy, only to show up about a week later with the same problem, no clutch. This time we took the broken cable apart, and you could see temper colours around the area of the break. That's when we looked, and sure enough the engine ground was broken, so all the starting current was running through the clutch cable to ground.

Yours
Vern

On 2010-06-16, at 9:16 PM, David Read wrote:

> Hooking a battery return sized cable between the engine and ground is always a good idea to allow most of engine current (particularly the starter motor current) to return to chassis/battery easily without relying on other paths.
>
> When I owned a rear engined Fiat 850 Sports, I ran a 200A welding cable from the battery at the front to a lug attached to one of the starter motor fixing bolts. I have never heard a Fiat starter motor rev so hard in all my life!! ;-)
>
> My P6B also has an "auxiliary earth" 200A welding cable running between battery & starter motor fixing and a similar cable from the +12V to the starter solenoid.
>
> I recently stopped to assist someone on the side of a bush track with a stuck accelerator.
> It turned out to be and inner to outer welded accelerator cable due to the starting battery current.
> The cause was a broken main braided cable between engine and chassis.
>
> Another ramification is that the dc return current may find a path through the coolant, causing electrolytic corrosion in it's path.
> Some aluminium radiator cores come with a manufacturer's warning to test the voltage from coolant to chassis.
> If there is more than 20mV (0.02V) difference, look for a fault in earth paths --- voids warranty if test not done by an "authorised person" (whoever that is??)
>
> HTH
>
> Cheers
> Dave
> South Oz
>
>
> On 6/17/2010 9:48 AM, cfreeberg at juno.com wrote:
>> I had the same problem with a Ford Escort --- the system was seeking another ground and found it via the seat-belt system and the ignition --- wouldn't run, altho all sub-systems checked out ok. ?Hooking up a extra (backup) ground from chassis to engine seems like a good thing.
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca

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From giannid at bigpond.com  Thu Jun 17 18:31:06 2010
From: giannid at bigpond.com (Gianni D'Ortenzio)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:31:06 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Hidden ground-wire faults!
References: <20100616.171835.22746.3@webmail16.vgs.untd.com>
<4C19A19F.50004@ozemail.com.au>
Message-ID: <F6C43CE7-6068-4737-B624-E674F25609AB@bigpond.com>

had same thing happen twice in my landrover
both times cable melted
first time started a fire that led to false conclusion of loom rubbing
on handbrake cable as adjacent loom was fire damaged
replaced handbrake cable, repaired loom and heypresto....one week
later, same thing happened again?
turns out battery had shifted, body was no longer earthing properly
and handbrake cable running from under driver's seat to chassis was
perfect earth
Cheers Gianni
Gianni D'Ortenzio
1948 P3 4 light
1949 P3 6 light
1969 P5BC
1971 P6B
1977 Lotus Elite
2004 Landrover Defender

On 18/06/2010, at 12:49 AM, Vern Klukas wrote:

> And here is another ground story. Back in the day when I was
> wrenching for a living, we had a customer with a Fiat 124 sports car
> that came in with a broken clutch cable. Seemed a bit odd, but we
> changed it and the customer went away happy, only to show up about a
> week later with the same problem, no clutch. This time we took the
> broken cable apart, and you could see temper colours around the area
> of the break. That's when we looked, and sure enough the engine
> ground was broken, so all the starting current was running through
> the clutch cable to ground.
>
> Yours
> Vern
>
>
> On 2010-06-16, at 9:16 PM, David Read wrote:
>
>> Hooking a battery return sized cable between the engine and ground
>> is always a good idea to allow most of engine current (particularly
>> without relying on other paths.
>>
>> When I owned a rear engined Fiat 850 Sports, I ran a 200A welding
>> cable from the battery at the front to a lug attached to one of the
>> starter motor fixing bolts. I have never heard a Fiat starter motor
>> rev so hard in all my life!! ;-)
>>
>> My P6B also has an "auxiliary earth" 200A welding cable running
>> between battery & starter motor fixing and a similar cable from the
>> +12V to the starter solenoid.
>>
>> I recently stopped to assist someone on the side of a bush track
>> with a stuck accelerator.
>> It turned out to be and inner to outer welded accelerator cable due
>> to the starting battery current.
>> The cause was a broken main braided cable between engine and chassis.
>>
>> Another ramification is that the dc return current may find a path
>> through the coolant, causing electrolytic corrosion in it's path.
>> Some aluminium radiator cores come with a manufacturer's warning to
>> test the voltage from coolant to chassis.
>> If there is more than 20mV (0.02V) difference, look for a fault in
>> earth paths --- voids warranty if test not done by an "authorised
>> person" (whoever that is??)
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Cheers
>> Dave
>> South Oz
>>
>>
>> On 6/17/2010 9:48 AM, cfreeberg at juno.com wrote:
>>> I had the same problem with a Ford Escort --- the system was
>>> seeking another ground and found it via the seat-belt system and
>>> the ignition --- wouldn't run, altho all sub-systems checked out
>>> ok.  Hooking up a extra (backup) ground from chassis to engine
>>> seems like a good thing.
>>
>> Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
> Inkspot Type & Design	250 864 5619	in at inkspotco.com
>
>
>
>
>
> Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
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From aboasberg at webtv.net  Thu Jun 17 20:46:01 2010
From: aboasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 01:46:01 GMT
Subject: [Rovernet ] This Month's "Roverview Magazine"
Message-ID: <SNT101-DS178BBAE6E03D466C32B635B5C00@phx.gbl>

I'd like to thank Malcolm, Vern and all the others who kindly featured my blue Rover 3500S and also reprinted my article on my 1969 TC 2000.

I am delighted and humbled by your presentations.

Albert

From aboasberg at webtv.net  Thu Jun 17 21:01:45 2010
From: aboasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 02:01:45 GMT
Subject: [Rovernet ] Hanger Hooks Requested
Message-ID: <SNT101-DS175B1D84073DB4CCE4C463B5C00@phx.gbl>

Dear Kent:

Hooks received today in good shape via UPS.

Many thanks ands with best regards,

Albert

From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 18 06:28:22 2010
From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:28:22 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Hidden ground-wire faults!
References: <20100616.171835.22746.3@webmail16.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <BAY120-W52658E23DE51935EC131E6B8C00@phx.gbl>

The wife had a really nice condition 1977 Austin Mini but it would always struggle to start in winter.

One day I was setting the timing using a static light which naturally required the ignition to be left on for a few minutes.  Accidently I touched the choke cable and found it cheery-warm.  Then everything clicked into place.  A spare battery cable out the shed was bolted up to the engine and body - and voila the starter motor spun like a Bombay cricket bookie.

Hell - there was even an earth strap hole drilled in the bodywork at just the right place!  Symptomatic of British Leyland in its death spiral years - I can imagine some adenoidal cost accountant at a meeting chirping up: "Eee yee knuw. If'm we drop earth strap from car, we save 3.8 pence per uwnit.  Thuts a deeruct saarvin of 27,481 quid und 43 pence a yar."  Meanwhile all those punters whose Leyland cars wouldn't start properly began swearing they'd never get shaken down by buying another one again.....

Cheers

Richard

South Island NZ

> From: cfreeberg at juno.com
> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 00:18:35 +0000
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Hidden ground-wire faults!
>
> I had the same problem with a Ford Escort --- the system was seeking another ground and found it via the seat-belt system and the ignition --- wouldn't run, altho all sub-systems checked out ok. Hooking up a extra (backup) ground from chassis to engine seems like a good thing.
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com  Fri Jun 18 08:27:48 2010
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 15:27:48 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] R:  71 TC & some parts for sale - Landcrab
References: <224787.82904.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<5ED21CFC-4F9D-40EA-BBBC-EB3C5A8C35C1@inkspotco.com>

I also love landcrab.
It is extremely rare here in Italy.

I was told by a collector - a mini collector from trieste, who sold me a
P5 3.0 manual, an MGB Manual and other manuals, that more or less in the
early ninties there was a blue one for sale in padova, low mileage and
little money.

It is a pity I did not know!

Does someone of us have one?

Do you know some sites?

Best regards, hear you soon, gianluca.

-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
Per conto di Vern Klukas
Inviato: domenica 13 giugno 2010 2.52
A: The original Rovernet ...
Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet ] 71 TC & some parts for sale - Landcrab

I love the Landcrab. Owned a red automatic version for a short time,
when it suffered the slings and arrow of first being driven over a
traffic island one drunken night, ripping the bottom of the trans off (I
had been left on the deserted beach with my just that night
ex-girlfriend while we searched for the keys to her Mini in the sand.
Ah, youth. But I digress.

I fixed that, but six months or so later I came out of a blind driveway
and into traffic which put paid to car. Anyway, very nice car for basic
transportation, one of the best BL ever designed.

Yours
Vern

On 2010-06-12, at 5:18 AM, Jim Cumberland wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> My 1971 NADA 2000 TC "Dora" is for sale.  I am asking $4500/offer. Some very recent pics are here: > > http://picasaweb.google.com/fjcumberland/1971Rover2000TC02?authkey=Gv1 > sRgCKr0v7S9l4artgE&feat=directlink > > The car is running really well, and looks great. Her center console is out because we had just changed the gearshift lever. > > It was a diplomatic import into DC that was bought when it was 6 months old by a Rover enthusiast in MD named Bill Kumm. He immediately loaded it up with just about every conceivable Rover option (including Sundym windows and Delanair AC). I bought it from him in 2002. He refurbished it in 1999. Original color is Mexico Brown. The interior is the original one - it is Sandalwood. The blue is a Chrysler color - the best way I can describe it is "Richard Petty Blue." In my opinion it suits the car very well. I have the Heritage Certificate for it. > > I am culling the fleet because I am in the midst of moving from SC to Buffalo this summer. I'm selling the Rover because all my other stuff is Mini/Landcrab/Metro - I've already sold my MG 1100 and will have my Austin 1300 estate for sale (and possibly my Radford Cooper S as well). Dora has been a great car, and I and my kids (especially my daughter) have enjoyed her immensely, but I want to concentrate on Minis and the Crab and Metro (yes, I have a soft spot for underappreciated BL tin. One day I will own a Maxi. Probably in some horrible color (though my cars tend to be blue or green . . . .). > > The Rover will come with some mechancial spares. I also have a spare engine & manual box that came with her (it might be her original engine - I cannot remember, but probably can figure that out), and a 2 litre TC engine w/manual box and a 2.2L w/auto box that I bought from the UK. I'm asking$375 ono for each of those 2 spare engines, or they can go
with the car.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jim
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com  Fri Jun 18 08:27:43 2010
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 15:27:43 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] R:  This Month's "Roverview Magazine"
References: <SNT101-DS178BBAE6E03D466C32B635B5C00@phx.gbl>

Dear friends,

Best regards, Gianluca.

-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Albert Boasberg
Inviato: venerd? 18 giugno 2010 3.46
A: The original Rovernet...
Oggetto: [Rovernet ] This Month's "Roverview Magazine"

I'd like to thank Malcolm, Vern and all the others who kindly featured my blue Rover 3500S and also reprinted my article on my 1969 TC 2000.

I am delighted and humbled by your presentations.

Albert

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From smokeandsteam at gmail.com  Sat Jun 19 14:02:04 2010
From: smokeandsteam at gmail.com (Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 12:02:04 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] White P6 sighted in San Diego...
Message-ID: <AANLkTim3hKxprmiGIy7MgXCMUIdJS_pFqFeTDCQhWyDM@mail.gmail.com>

Seen on Camino del Norte in Ranch Bernardo  on Thursday,  a   very
original white looking P6. Does it belong to anyone here?

Aidrian

From rababiuk at telusplanet.net  Sun Jun 20 12:00:06 2010
From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net (Roy Babiuk)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 11:00:06 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] What gauge wire for turn signals?
Message-ID: <73A6E28E-93A3-4F86-965B-DC79A511461F@telusplanet.net>

Hi all.
I need to clean up some frayed wires going to the connectors to my '70
TC side lamps. What gauge wire do I need?
Roy

From burkhaj at earthlink.net  Sun Jun 20 12:08:43 2010
From: burkhaj at earthlink.net (John Burkhard)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 10:08:43 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] White P6 sighted in San Diego...

If it's San Diego, it's Nelson ORiley.  Depending on what day it is and
where the moon is, Nelson will be driving one of the eight or so of  his
Rover Saloons.  Today his collection includes P4s, 2000TCs and P6Bs and he
is looking for P5s and P5Bs and in time he may add a SD1.  To contact
Nelson go to page seven of your REVISED 2009 Rover Automobile Directory -
West.

Press On.
John Burkhard

> [Original Message]
> From: Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton <smokeandsteam at gmail.com>
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Date: 6/19/2010 12:02:27 PM
> Subject: [Rovernet ] White P6 sighted in San Diego...
>
> Seen on Camino del Norte in Ranch Bernardo  on Thursday,  a   very
> original white looking P6. Does it belong to anyone here?
>
> Aidrian
>
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From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu  Sun Jun 20 22:03:51 2010
From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 23:03:51 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] White P6 sighted in San Diego...
Message-ID: <4C1ED697.4070805@alum.swarthmore.edu>

Several years ago I met up with a few Rover guys in San Diego while my
wife was at a conference.  The day started off with treat -- Nelson
picked me up from the hotel in his P4 110.  We went up to the San Diego
auto museum where Rover owner Art Bishop was (is?) director.  The
collection included a Rover motorcycle among other interesting vehicles.

Sounds like Nelson's collection has grown quite a bit since then.

-- Steve Manwell -- winding down from three plus fun days of Rove America 10

On 6/20/2010 1:08 PM, John Burkhard wrote:
> If it's San Diego, it's Nelson ORiley.  Depending on what day it is and
> where the moon is, Nelson will be driving one of the eight or so of  his
> Rover Saloons.  Today his collection includes P4s, 2000TCs and P6Bs and he
> is looking for P5s and P5Bs and in time he may add a SD1.  To contact
> Nelson go to page seven of your REVISED 2009 Rover Automobile Directory -
> West.
>
> Press On.
> John Burkhard
>
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton<smokeandsteam at gmail.com>
>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>> Date: 6/19/2010 12:02:27 PM
>> Subject: [Rovernet ] White P6 sighted in San Diego...
>>
>> Seen on Camino del Norte in Ranch Bernardo  on Thursday,  a   very
>> original white looking P6. Does it belong to anyone here?
>>
>> Aidrian
>>
>>
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From robertime at cavtel.net  Mon Jun 21 05:16:07 2010
From: robertime at cavtel.net (ROBERT HEIMERL)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 06:16:07 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Tuesday?
Message-ID: <AANLkTik_L2msYQsZ-hk4Tn33CNyDSGRgPh0EF1XWIA7W@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Bob,

Hope things went well this weekend.

Chris is in NY now, I'm headed up there this morning (from Elllicott City)
to meet him in White Plains (where Jamie Kitman's yellow Rover continues to
reside at the repair shop shown in his 2007 article).  This should be
interesting, more of the story later.

It looks like the best day to travel to Roanoke will be Tuesday.  You're
welcome to come along if available to do so, would need to leave early --
which might create some logistical problems on the Baltimore end of things.
We should talk on the phone later today.

Take care,

Robert
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From paterson.dave at sympatico.ca  Mon Jun 21 12:26:09 2010
From: paterson.dave at sympatico.ca (DAVID PATERSON)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 13:26:09 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] White P6 Rover in Guelph, Ontario
References: <AANLkTim3hKxprmiGIy7MgXCMUIdJS_pFqFeTDCQhWyDM@mail.gmail.com>

I have been told by She-Who-Must-be-Obeyed that I have to get rid of my 1968 P6 2000 automatic.  It has been sitting in our garage since 2002, when an electrical fault prevented it from starting.  I haven?t had the time nor the electrical skills to fix it and there is nobody in the area who will work on British vehicles.  I bought the car in 1995 in Victoria B.C. and drove it back to Guelph, Ontario.  In 1999 it was converted to twin carbs with a noticeable improvement in power.  The car is white with red interior.  The body is sound and in good shape.  The leather is in good condition (I?ve treated it every year) with the exception of the tops of the rear seats, which have been sun-damaged and I have covered with red vinyl. The tires are new. I?ve been asked to submit it in a local auction of antique cars but I thought that I would first see if there is any interest among Rover enthusiasts.

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From paterson.dave at sympatico.ca  Mon Jun 21 13:56:35 2010
From: paterson.dave at sympatico.ca (DAVID PATERSON)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:56:35 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] White P6 sighted in San Diego...
<4C1ED697.4070805@alum.swarthmore.edu>
Message-ID: <SNT139-W1DF29CCD9EA62E3CCB96E89C30@phx.gbl>

I have been told by She-Who-Must-be-Obeyed that I have to get rid of my 1968 P6 2000 automatic.  It has been sitting in our garage since 2002, when an electrical fault prevented it from starting.  I haven?t had the time nor the electrical skills to fix it and there is nobody in the area who will work on British vehicles.  I bought the car in 1995 in Victoria B.C. and drove it back to Guelph, Ontario.  In 1999 it was converted to twin carbs with a noticeable improvement in power.  The car is white with red interior.  The body is sound and in good shape.  The leather is in good condition (I?ve treated it every year) with the exception of the tops of the rear seats, which have been sun-damaged and I have covered with red vinyl. The tires are new. I?ve been asked to submit it in a local auction of antique cars but I thought that I would first see if there is any interest among Rover enthusiasts.

Dave Paterson

> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 23:03:51 -0400
> From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] White P6 sighted in San Diego...
>
> Several years ago I met up with a few Rover guys in San Diego while my
> wife was at a conference. The day started off with treat -- Nelson
> picked me up from the hotel in his P4 110. We went up to the San Diego
> auto museum where Rover owner Art Bishop was (is?) director. The
> collection included a Rover motorcycle among other interesting vehicles.
>
> Sounds like Nelson's collection has grown quite a bit since then.
>
> -- Steve Manwell -- winding down from three plus fun days of Rove America 10
>
>
> On 6/20/2010 1:08 PM, John Burkhard wrote:
> > If it's San Diego, it's Nelson ORiley. Depending on what day it is and
> > where the moon is, Nelson will be driving one of the eight or so of his
> > Rover Saloons. Today his collection includes P4s, 2000TCs and P6Bs and he
> > is looking for P5s and P5Bs and in time he may add a SD1. To contact
> > Nelson go to page seven of your REVISED 2009 Rover Automobile Directory -
> > West.
> >
> > Press On.
> > John Burkhard
> >
> >
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton<smokeandsteam at gmail.com>
> >> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> >> Date: 6/19/2010 12:02:27 PM
> >> Subject: [Rovernet ] White P6 sighted in San Diego...
> >>
> >> Seen on Camino del Norte in Ranch Bernardo on Thursday, a very
> >> original white looking P6. Does it belong to anyone here?
> >>
> >> Aidrian
> >>
> >>
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From rover2000nut at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 21 13:58:28 2010
From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:58:28 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] White Rover in San Diego
Message-ID: <BAY119-W37A4CDEBFF32A14CFE0193DEC30@phx.gbl>

Check out the Guild of Automotive Restorers in Bradford Ontario....Job lot  979  www.guildclassiccars.com/1967_rover_979/index.html this body off restoration cost over $100,000 and the owner was in San Diego where he took the car back to when the restoration was done a few years ago....maybe this is the one you saw....the seats are not even Rover original but thats what he wanted Cheers Bill Robertson _________________________________________________________________ Turn down-time into play-time with Messenger games http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9734385 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100621/a9f4be93/attachment.html> From vern at inkspotco.com Mon Jun 21 14:11:17 2010 From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:11:17 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet ] White Rover in San Diego In-Reply-To: <BAY119-W37A4CDEBFF32A14CFE0193DEC30@phx.gbl> References: <BAY119-W37A4CDEBFF32A14CFE0193DEC30@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <128F47DF-401A-49A7-B333-55E9312AA13D@inkspotco.com> If that's what they call a restoration, I wouldn't be happy if it were my car. I saw lots of assembly errors, a lot of paint applied over the old, and the wrong colour on a bunch of stuff. Yours Vern On 2010-06-21, at 11:58 AM, Bill Robertson wrote: > > Check out the Guild of Automotive Restorers in Bradford Ontario....Job lot 979 www.guildclassiccars.com/1967_rover_979/index.html this body off restoration cost over$100,000 and the owner was in San Diego where he took the car back to when the restoration was done a few years ago....maybe this is the one you saw....the seats are not even Rover original but thats what he wanted
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From rovercar at comcast.net  Mon Jun 21 17:39:27 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:39:27 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] White Rover in San Diego
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On 06/21/2010 03:11 PM, Vern Klukas wrote:
> If that's what they call a restoration, I wouldn't be happy if it were my car. I saw lots of assembly errors, a lot of paint applied over the old, and the wrong colour on a bunch of stuff.
>
> Yours
> Vern
>

I'm 100% with Vern on that one. I'd also have a problem calling it a
"restoration" when so much of it differs from the way it came from the
factory. It makes no sense at all to do all that work and not be able to
say it was restored to look like it just left the showroom. Finally, how
in the world could any sane person spend $100k on a P6 restoration or any reputable restoration shop run up a$100k bill on one? Please. You
could probably buy four extremely low-mileage P6s with their originality
intact or the V8 Graber coupe for $100K. I don't know if these stories are all urban myths or simply testaments to human greed and stupidity. Glen > On 2010-06-21, at 11:58 AM, Bill Robertson wrote: > > >> Check out the Guild of Automotive Restorers in Bradford Ontario....Job lot 979 www.guildclassiccars.com/1967_rover_979/index.html this body off restoration cost over$100,000 and the owner was in San Diego where he took the car back to when the restoration was done a few years ago....maybe this is the one you saw....the seats are not even Rover original but thats what he wanted
>>
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>>
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 21 21:13:06 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:13:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] White Rover in San Diego
References: <BAY119-W37A4CDEBFF32A14CFE0193DEC30@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <960961.71242.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Glen,
Don't hold back
Tell us what you *really* think!  ROFLMHO

Eric
PS. Last night in Fitchburg.  (movie with Clint Eastwood :-)
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975

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From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
To: The original Rovernet ... <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Mon, June 21, 2010 12:39:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] White Rover in San Diego

On 06/21/2010 03:11 PM, Vern Klukas wrote:
> If that's what they call a restoration, I wouldn't be happy if it were my car. I saw lots of assembly errors, a lot of paint applied over the old, and the wrong colour on a bunch of stuff.
>
> Yours
> Vern
>

I'm 100% with Vern on that one. I'd also have a problem calling it a
"restoration" when so much of it differs from the way it came from the
factory. It makes no sense at all to do all that work and not be able to
say it was restored to look like it just left the showroom. Finally, how
in the world could any sane person spend $100k on a P6 restoration or any reputable restoration shop run up a$100k bill on one? Please. You
could probably buy four extremely low-mileage P6s with their originality
intact or the V8 Graber coupe for $100K. I don't know if these stories are all urban myths or simply testaments to human greed and stupidity. Glen > On 2010-06-21, at 11:58 AM, Bill Robertson wrote: > > >> Check out the Guild of Automotive Restorers in Bradford Ontario....Job lot 979 www.guildclassiccars.com/1967_rover_979/index.html this body off restoration cost over$100,000 and the owner was in San Diego where he took the car back to when the restoration was done a few years ago....maybe this is the one you saw....the seats are not even Rover original but thats what he wanted
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From rovercar at comcast.net  Mon Jun 21 21:18:39 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:18:39 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] White Rover in San Diego
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On 06/21/2010 10:13 PM, Eric Russell wrote:
> Glen,
> Don't hold back
> Tell us what you *really* think!  ROFLMHO
>
> Eric
>

Would you spend $100k on a P6, Eric? Would Linda miss it? ;-) QWERTY Glen From gbbourque at gmail.com Mon Jun 21 23:02:24 2010 From: gbbourque at gmail.com (garrett bourque) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 00:02:24 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] White P6 sighted in San Diego... In-Reply-To: <4C1ED697.4070805@alum.swarthmore.edu> References: <380-22010602017843468@earthlink.net> <4C1ED697.4070805@alum.swarthmore.edu> Message-ID: <AANLkTinvN_Tr0z7ZqHCArXfkXYdnRY28k87r5ji6mBA5@mail.gmail.com> Hi Steve, I had a great time at the Rover event over the weekend! I wanted to see my college friend, also Steve, in Connecticut, and did not attend the Boston portion of the event with or without my car. Since we got separated, I never got a chance to kick in for my part of the hotel room. Please tell me how much I should chip in to divide the bill up satisfactorily. I will send you a payment. Thanks! Garrett On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 11:03 PM, S Manwell <s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu>wrote: > Several years ago I met up with a few Rover guys in San Diego while my wife > was at a conference. The day started off with treat -- Nelson picked me up > from the hotel in his P4 110. We went up to the San Diego auto museum where > Rover owner Art Bishop was (is?) director. The collection included a Rover > motorcycle among other interesting vehicles. > > Sounds like Nelson's collection has grown quite a bit since then. > > -- Steve Manwell -- winding down from three plus fun days of Rove America > 10 > > > On 6/20/2010 1:08 PM, John Burkhard wrote: > >> If it's San Diego, it's Nelson ORiley. Depending on what day it is and >> where the moon is, Nelson will be driving one of the eight or so of his >> Rover Saloons. Today his collection includes P4s, 2000TCs and P6Bs and he >> is looking for P5s and P5Bs and in time he may add a SD1. To contact >> Nelson go to page seven of your REVISED 2009 Rover Automobile Directory - >> West. >> >> Press On. >> John Burkhard >> >> >> >> >>> [Original Message] >>> From: Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton<smokeandsteam at gmail.com> >>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.<rovernet at rovernet.ca> >>> Date: 6/19/2010 12:02:27 PM >>> Subject: [Rovernet ] White P6 sighted in San Diego... >>> >>> Seen on Camino del Norte in Ranch Bernardo on Thursday, a very >>> original white looking P6. Does it belong to anyone here? >>> >>> Aidrian >>> >>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be >>> >>> >> sure to scroll down the whole page. >> >> >>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>> >>> >> >> >> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be >> sure to scroll down the whole page. >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> >> >> >> > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure > to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100622/a65f8876/attachment.html> From slatskars at comcast.net Tue Jun 22 01:32:31 2010 From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 06:32:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rovernet ] White Rover in San Diego In-Reply-To: <4C1FEA1F.4050407@comcast.net> Message-ID: <295596310.6586771277188351679.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> A couple of years ago, I passed up the opportunity tp buy a completely 100% restored 1959 MGA (regretted it shortly afterwards). It was a true frame off and everything that could not be restored was replaced. Every nut, bolt, washer, etc. It was perfect a brand new 1959 MGA. The cost of the work was$40,000. I could have bought it for $20,000, and as I said, I regretted not buying it later.? I don't see how one could spend 2 1/2 times as much on a P-6 and not get perfection.? Slats ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Wilson" <rovercar at comcast.net> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 3:39:27 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] White Rover in San Diego On 06/21/2010 03:11 PM, Vern Klukas wrote: > If that's what they call a restoration, I wouldn't be happy if it were my car. I saw lots of assembly errors, a lot of paint applied over the old, and the wrong colour on a bunch of stuff. > > Yours > Vern > ? ? I'm 100% with Vern on that one. I'd also have a problem calling it a "restoration" when so much of it differs from the way it came from the factory. It makes no sense at all to do all that work and not be able to say it was restored to look like it just left the showroom. Finally, how in the world could any sane person spend$100k on a P6 restoration or
any reputable restoration shop run up a $100k bill on one? Please. You could probably buy four extremely low-mileage P6s with their originality intact or the V8 Graber coupe for$100K.

I don't know if these stories are all urban myths or simply testaments
to human greed and stupidity.

Glen

> On 2010-06-21, at 11:58 AM, Bill Robertson wrote:
>
> ? ?
>> Check out the Guild of Automotive Restorers in Bradford Ontario....Job lot ?979 ?www.guildclassiccars.com/1967_rover_979/index.html this body off restoration cost over $100,000 and the owner was in San Diego where he took the car back to when the restoration was done a few years ago....maybe this is the one you saw....the seats are not even Rover original but thats what he wanted >> >> Cheers >> >> Bill Robertson >> ???????????????? ???????? ? ???????????????? >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Turn down-time into play-time with Messenger games >> http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9734385 >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL:<http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100621/a9f4be93/attachment.html> >> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> ? ? ? > Inkspot Type& ?Design????????250 864 5619????????in at inkspotco.com > > > > > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > ? ? To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100622/c5d23f49/attachment.html> From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Tue Jun 22 10:41:20 2010 From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 15:41:20 +0000 Subject: [Rovernet ] Restoration cost Message-ID: <BAY119-W4922A348B8C35259EB5CCDDEC40@phx.gbl> Well Glen i seen the car at the Guild myself and talked to them...they had balked at a few of the things done but it was as owner specified...Yes its not original , yes it cost way too much to do, but he had the money and the desire to put his car back to new condition...Not original condition.....AND YES the owner spent way too much doing it. We've discussed this many times before ...the cost of restoring a vehicle is almost always way more than what you could buy the car for, or what it is worth......i remember at the Barrett Jackson in Scottsdale 2 years ago a guy brought 3 of his hot rods down to sell ...all red with custom trailers and each cost him over$100,000 to build........the highest selling price for one of them was $32,000 and the lowest was$24,000.......he cried as they were selling the last one......A. because he was relegated to Sunday to sell his cars and all the big money is on Saturday,or Friday night, and B. because he customized all 3 cars to his taste ,thus lowering the value to mainstream buyers.....Always buy the best possible car you can afford instead of trying to restore one......it will always cost you far less in the long run

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From rovercar at comcast.net  Tue Jun 22 15:48:41 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:48:41 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Restoration cost
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On 06/22/2010 11:41 AM, Bill Robertson wrote:
> Well Glen i seen the car at the Guild myself and talked to them...

I didn't mean to question your veracity, Bill, and I hope you didn't
take my comment to mean that I did. If they told you the restoration
cost $100k, I would love to see the itemization of that invoice. Yes, we've had his discussion several times before. However, like the P6 rear brake repair discussion, it will continue to come up. In terms of preserving and protecting the Rover marque, it's poor stewardship of funds to sink such an obscene amount of money into one car when there are so many out there going begging. Glen > they had balked at a few of the things done but it was as owner specified...Yes its not original , yes it cost way too much to do, but he had the money and the desire to put his car back to new condition...Not original condition.....AND YES the owner spent way too much doing it. We've discussed this many times before ...the cost of restoring a vehicle is almost always way more than what you could buy the car for, or what it is worth......i remember at the Barrett Jackson in Scottsdale 2 years ago a guy brought 3 of his hot rods down to sell ...all red with custom trailers and each cost him over$100,000 to build........the highest selling price for one of them was $32,000 and the lowest was$24,000.......he cried as they were selling the last one......A. because he was relegated to Sunday to sell his cars and all the big money is on Saturday,or Friday night, and B. because he customized all 3 cars to his taste ,thus lowering the value to mainstream buyers.....Always buy the best possible car you can afford instead of trying to restore one......it will always cost you far less in the long run
>
>
>
> Bill Robertson
>
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From renovations.plus at hotmail.com  Tue Jun 22 19:33:11 2010
From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com (Dennis Brooks)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:33:11 -0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6B will not run
Message-ID: <BAY145-w48F003CE52E4E279C162E495C50@phx.gbl>

Hi all !! ...It's been a while but I am back...Miss me  ?? LOL

Now...here's my problem..

I have been trying for a LONG time to track down a problem with my 3500S...the car will sometimes run great for 10 min or so...then it won't start well or run at all at times. It appears to be a fuel problem. The fuel pump is strong ..in fact it pumps fuel out of the su's . I am leaning towards some kind of blockage in the fuel return line...has anyone ever had a similar problem ?

Regards

Dennis Brooks

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From kkinard at att.net  Tue Jun 22 21:30:02 2010
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:30:02 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6B will not run
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Hi Dennis,
Nice to hear from you. We have recently had a very extensive series of
horror stories relating to bad engine ground. Gives all the problems you
have described.

Have you had the fuel pickup out of the tank to check for blockage?
Can you blow air through both the main line and the reserve line from
the engine compartment?
What kind of fuel filters are you running?
Can you blow air through both the main and reserve lines from the tank end?
Have you tried running with the fuel filler cap open? Clogged vent lines
may cause high vacuum in the tank causing the pump to work against vacuum.
Tell us what you've tried.

Roverly,
Kent K.

Dennis Brooks wrote:
>
>
>   Hi all !! ...It's been a while but I am back...Miss me  ?? LOL
>
>
>
>   Now...here's my problem..
>
>
>
>   I have been trying for a LONG time to track down a problem with my 3500S...the car will sometimes run great for 10 min or so...then it won't start well or run at all at times. It appears to be a fuel problem. The fuel pump is strong ..in fact it pumps fuel out of the su's . I am leaning towards some kind of blockage in the fuel return line...has anyone ever had a similar problem ?
>
>
>

From renovations.plus at hotmail.com  Tue Jun 22 22:11:49 2010
From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com (Dennis Brooks)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 01:11:49 -0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6B will not run
References: <BAY145-w48F003CE52E4E279C162E495C50@phx.gbl>,
<4C2171AA.3080805@att.net>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w10A7AACB30F02941251D9195C50@phx.gbl>

You have touched on a few things that may be the problem...

I will check the ground...as for fuel blockage ...there is no lack of fuel comming to the carbs...in fact there is too much fuel and it appears to flood or at best run very rich ...hence my thoughts about a blocked return to the tank. It almost seems like the fuel pump is pressurizing the system and the fuel is being forced into the Su's.

The fuel pump (as you know) has a filter ...then I have another inline filter that was replaced about a month ago just in case it had ebris or water in it.

You mention vacuum as a possibility...perhaps it isbut wouldn't that also reduce fuel flow ? I am getting lots of fuel...simply can't stop it from pushing out wherever it finds an escape...carbs, AED vent etc...

Thanks...

Dennis Brooks

> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:30:02 -0500
> From: kkinard at att.net
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P6B will not run
>
> Hi Dennis,
> Nice to hear from you. We have recently had a very extensive series of
> horror stories relating to bad engine ground. Gives all the problems you
> have described.
>
> Have you had the fuel pickup out of the tank to check for blockage?
> Can you blow air through both the main line and the reserve line from
> the engine compartment?
> What kind of fuel filters are you running?
> Can you blow air through both the main and reserve lines from the tank end?
> Have you tried running with the fuel filler cap open? Clogged vent lines
> may cause high vacuum in the tank causing the pump to work against vacuum.
> Tell us what you've tried.
>
> Roverly,
> Kent K.
>
> Dennis Brooks wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi all !! ...It's been a while but I am back...Miss me ?? LOL
> >
> >
> >
> > Now...here's my problem..
> >
> >
> >
> > I have been trying for a LONG time to track down a problem with my 3500S...the car will sometimes run great for 10 min or so...then it won't start well or run at all at times. It appears to be a fuel problem. The fuel pump is strong ..in fact it pumps fuel out of the su's . I am leaning towards some kind of blockage in the fuel return line...has anyone ever had a similar problem ?
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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From vern at inkspotco.com  Tue Jun 22 23:55:41 2010
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:55:41 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6B will not run
References: <BAY145-w48F003CE52E4E279C162E495C50@phx.gbl>,
<4C2171AA.3080805@att.net>
<BAY145-w10A7AACB30F02941251D9195C50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C72B1392-AA8F-46B2-8985-6F3FE1045BD5@inkspotco.com>

When you say fuel is coming out of the carbs, do you mean that raw fuel is spilling from the main jet? Does it do it when the pump is running but the engine is not? If so, I would think that faulty needle and seats in the float chambers (but both? & AED!) or very high fuel pressure overwhelming the valves. Stock pump?

Yours
Vern

On 2010-06-22, at 8:11 PM, Dennis Brooks wrote:

>
> You have touched on a few things that may be the problem...
>
>  I will check the ground...as for fuel blockage ...there is no lack of fuel comming to the carbs...in fact there is too much fuel and it appears to flood or at best run very rich ...hence my thoughts about a blocked return to the tank. It almost seems like the fuel pump is pressurizing the system and the fuel is being forced into the Su's.
>
> The fuel pump (as you know) has a filter ...then I have another inline filter that was replaced about a month ago just in case it had ebris or water in it.
>
> You mention vacuum as a possibility...perhaps it isbut wouldn't that also reduce fuel flow ? I am getting lots of fuel...simply can't stop it from pushing out wherever it finds an escape...carbs, AED vent etc...
>
>
>
> Thanks...
>
>
>
> Dennis Brooks
>
>> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:30:02 -0500
>> From: kkinard at att.net
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P6B will not run
>>
>> Hi Dennis,
>> Nice to hear from you. We have recently had a very extensive series of
>> horror stories relating to bad engine ground. Gives all the problems you
>> have described.
>>
>> Have you had the fuel pickup out of the tank to check for blockage?
>> Can you blow air through both the main line and the reserve line from
>> the engine compartment?
>> What kind of fuel filters are you running?
>> Can you blow air through both the main and reserve lines from the tank end?
>> Have you tried running with the fuel filler cap open? Clogged vent lines
>> may cause high vacuum in the tank causing the pump to work against vacuum.
>> Tell us what you've tried.
>>
>> Roverly,
>> Kent K.
>>
>> Dennis Brooks wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all !! ...It's been a while but I am back...Miss me ?? LOL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Now...here's my problem..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have been trying for a LONG time to track down a problem with my 3500S...the car will sometimes run great for 10 min or so...then it won't start well or run at all at times. It appears to be a fuel problem. The fuel pump is strong ..in fact it pumps fuel out of the su's . I am leaning towards some kind of blockage in the fuel return line...has anyone ever had a similar problem ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
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From slatskars at comcast.net  Wed Jun 23 00:12:00 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 05:12:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6B will not run
Message-ID: <1518490438.7014281277269920815.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Dennis,

I would echo what Vern is saying. It sounds like either a bad needle or seat in the float chamber or too much fuel pressure. Another thought just occurred to me, maybe fuel leaking into one of the floats, making it heavy. The fuel pump pressure should be no more than 3.8 PSI for an SU fuel pump.in most cases. I am not familiar with what type of pump you have, possibly a double ended AZX 1500 series? The fuel pumps generally could not go high pressure on you, as it is the volute spring that is the primary pressure regulating device in an SU. This is the spring that works against the diaphragm when you are installing new points.

Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vern Klukas" <vern at inkspotco.com>
To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 9:55:41 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P6B will not run

When you say fuel is coming out of the carbs, do you mean that raw fuel is spilling from the main jet? Does it do it when the pump is running but the engine is not? If so, I would think that faulty needle and seats in the float chambers (but both? & AED!) or very high fuel pressure overwhelming the valves. Stock pump?

Yours
Vern

On 2010-06-22, at 8:11 PM, Dennis Brooks wrote:

>
> You have touched on a few things that may be the problem...
>
> ?I will check the ground...as for fuel blockage ...there is no lack of fuel comming to the carbs...in fact there is too much fuel and it appears to flood or at best run very rich ...hence my thoughts about a blocked return to the tank. It almost seems like the fuel pump is pressurizing the system and the fuel is being forced into the Su's.
>
> The fuel pump (as you know) has a filter ...then I have another inline filter that was replaced about a month ago just in case it had ebris or water in it.
>
> You mention vacuum as a possibility...perhaps it isbut wouldn't that also reduce fuel flow ? I am getting lots of fuel...simply can't stop it from pushing out wherever it finds an escape...carbs, AED vent etc...
>
>
>
> Thanks...
>
>
>
> Dennis Brooks
>
>> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:30:02 -0500
>> From: kkinard at att.net
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P6B will not run
>>
>> Hi Dennis,
>> Nice to hear from you. We have recently had a very extensive series of
>> horror stories relating to bad engine ground. Gives all the problems you
>> have described.
>>
>> Have you had the fuel pickup out of the tank to check for blockage?
>> Can you blow air through both the main line and the reserve line from
>> the engine compartment?
>> What kind of fuel filters are you running?
>> Can you blow air through both the main and reserve lines from the tank end?
>> Have you tried running with the fuel filler cap open? Clogged vent lines
>> may cause high vacuum in the tank causing the pump to work against vacuum.
>> Tell us what you've tried.
>>
>> Roverly,
>> Kent K.
>>
>> Dennis Brooks wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all !! ...It's been a while but I am back...Miss me ?? LOL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Now...here's my problem..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have been trying for a LONG time to track down a problem with my 3500S...the car will sometimes run great for 10 min or so...then it won't start well or run at all at times. It appears to be a fuel problem. The fuel pump is strong ..in fact it pumps fuel out of the su's . I am leaning towards some kind of blockage in the fuel return line...has anyone ever had a similar problem ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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From irishrover1 at sympatico.ca  Wed Jun 23 13:25:01 2010
From: irishrover1 at sympatico.ca (BEN RODGERS)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 15:25:01 -0300
Subject: [Rovernet ] Free Used Parts
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP992BBB78D791B9AA84D72D95C50@phx.gbl>

Hi Folks
I don't expect to have many takers because of the remoteness of
location (Prince Edward Island) however I have lots of good used Rover parts
that are free for the taking. Two very solid front fenders, good engine
bonnet and doors all from a  P4 1953. I have two good transmissions one from
a 1950 and 1953. Two or three engine blocks from same models, one good
much more. A partly complete 1963 Mk1A, beyond restoring but good parts.
Because of size and weight I'm not too interested in trying to ship
anything. It would be a shame to see them end up as scrap, but thats what
will happen eventually, I'll have to clear the barn before we attempt to
sell the property which will probably happen in the next couple of years
address rather than cluttering up Rovernet.
Cheers  Ben (irishrover)
*************
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From p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk  Wed Jun 23 15:30:05 2010
From: p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk (p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:30:05 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet ] Brightwells Auction today
Message-ID: <7FE7AACC788B49E48296EE861341EE3A@SN037535920331>

I was at the Brightwells Auction today (Leominster UK) from 10.00am and Mr Trapp's V8 Talago, sold for ?18,500 to a phone bidder just after England scored.

Speak Soon
Warmest regards
Mark

Mark Gray
Editor, Driving Force
The Rover P6 Club
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From rover2000nut at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 23 22:38:28 2010
From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 03:38:28 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S P6 Window Master Escutcheon
Message-ID: <BAY119-W421D82E8E48EBA8DA51285DEC60@phx.gbl>

I don't know if that is the proper word for it but does anyone have a new or good round plastic finishing piece for the 3500S NADA power window switch ....It says WINDOW MASTER and ON on it
Mine is ruined

Thanks

Bill Robertson

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From kkinard at att.net  Thu Jun 24 07:35:27 2010
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 07:35:27 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S P6 Window Master Escutcheon
References: <BAY119-W421D82E8E48EBA8DA51285DEC60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4C23510F.7010700@att.net>

Hi Bill,
I will check. I should have some. I won't be back at the shop until the
end of next week. Let me know if you find one before then.

Roverly,
Kent K.

Bill Robertson wrote:
> I don't know if that is the proper word for it but does anyone have a new or good round plastic finishing piece for the 3500S NADA power window switch ....It says WINDOW MASTER and ON on it
> Mine is ruined
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From jnsn74 at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 24 11:22:20 2010
From: jnsn74 at bellsouth.net (jnsn74)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 12:22:20 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover Content at British Pathe

Anyone interested in 20th Cent. British history can spend many happy hours browsing the old newsreel videos at www.britishpathe.com

I found some good Rover content:

Assignment P6 - a 13 min segment from 1961 on the manufacture & testing of the Rover 2000. Its the second half of a longer piece but the first half which seems to have covered the car's development is missing

In the Rover Tradition - 3 reels from about 1950 that cover Rover's history and the development & manufacture of the P5. I loved one scene where a worker tests gearsets by listening to them!

There are also several short pieces on the Jet cars and its worth looking at all the newsreels on the Earls Court and other Motor Shows.

There's probably more Rover stuff in there but with so many other great pieces I kept getting sidetracked.

Terry Dobson

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From rababiuk at telusplanet.net  Fri Jun 25 00:10:18 2010
From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net (Roy Babiuk)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 23:10:18 -0600
Message-ID: <C957DBEA-4E49-41E3-825C-53D3F97086EA@telusplanet.net>

My project passed it's insurance inspection today!
I am finally able to get my car insured, licensed and get it back on
Still lots to do to get it looking it's best, but at least now I can
have some fun and work on breaking in the rebuilt engine.
I have running in oil in the crankcase at the moment. Any
recommendations on how to properly break in the engine?

From vmitps at netspace.net.au  Fri Jun 25 00:24:09 2010
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:24:09 +1000
References: <C957DBEA-4E49-41E3-825C-53D3F97086EA@telusplanet.net>
Message-ID: <3BE5EFDD70A24D7A96035A5E3E4EE903@Vista>

Top gear, 2500 rpm, up hill, not too steep though.
Or 60kmh to 80kmh accelerations.

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From: "Roy Babiuk" <rababiuk at telusplanet.net>
To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 3:10 PM

> My project passed it's insurance inspection today!
> I am finally able to get my car insured, licensed and get it back on  the
> Still lots to do to get it looking it's best, but at least now I can  have
> some fun and work on breaking in the rebuilt engine.
> I have running in oil in the crankcase at the moment. Any  recommendations
> on how to properly break in the engine?
>
>
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca

From slatskars at comcast.net  Fri Jun 25 01:55:59 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:55:59 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <151261412.7838031277448959660.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Add something like Cam Shield to get some ZDDP (Zinc) to ptotect the cam and lifters.

Slats
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From: "Roy Babiuk" <rababiuk at telusplanet.net>
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:10:18 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific

My project passed it's insurance inspection today!
I am finally able to get my car insured, licensed and get it back on ?
Still lots to do to get it looking it's best, but at least now I can ?
have some fun and work on breaking in the rebuilt engine.
I have running in oil in the crankcase at the moment. Any ?
recommendations on how to properly break in the engine?

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From wb007727 at bigpond.net.au  Fri Jun 25 20:07:44 2010
From: wb007727 at bigpond.net.au (Terry Broadbent)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:07:44 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] rover SD1 upgrade
Message-ID: <B5F826318492448D93BB79EC5720520D@terrylewak5voh>

Hello all

just need a little bit of advice from fellow rover enthusiast's i am looking at taking the current 4.6 V8 that drives my lovely beast and making it a 5.2 V8, i have been told that the standard transmission and rear diffirential is unable to cope with the extra power that the 5.2 will be putting out.

so here are  my question's

1. what transmission would you recomend putting in to replace the standard 5 speed?

2. what rear diff. should i also look at putting  in?

Thanks you all in advance for the advice that you will give.

Terry B
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From dmesmg at juno.com  Fri Jun 25 05:39:38 2010
From: dmesmg at juno.com (dmesmg at juno.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:39:38 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] rover SD1 upgrade
Message-ID: <20100625.063938.640.2.dmesmg@juno.com>

Terry,
That sounds like an exciting project.  I am curious:  how will you go
from 4.6 to 5.2?  Larger stroke crankshaft?

While you didn't mention your location, I would suggest that you consider
a Borg Warner T5 gearbox out of a Chevrolet Camaro or Ford Mustang --the
V8 versions with the better gear ratios and larger diameter (25? 27?)
spline input shaft.  Buick 215 engine bellhousings will bolt directly to
the Camaro,  or adapters are available for the Ford gearboxes.   (I am
based in the USA so all of these items are fairly readily available
here.)

Others can perhaps offer guidance regarding the rear differential.
Probably many options there as well.
Best regards,
Dan

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From wb007727 at bigpond.net.au  Fri Jun 25 22:49:22 2010
From: wb007727 at bigpond.net.au (Terry Broadbent)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:49:22 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] rover SD1 upgrade
References: <20100625.063938.640.2.dmesmg@juno.com>
Message-ID: <BB3557F95C1844D2BDE27FE2EC896556@terrylewak5voh>

Dan,

thants is what i am looking at doing stroker kit in it.

as for wher i live i am in australia so i don't know if i can source the
parts that you sugested over here but i will certainly look into it.

Terry
----- Original Message -----
From: <dmesmg at juno.com>
To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 3:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] rover SD1 upgrade

> Terry,
> That sounds like an exciting project.  I am curious:  how will you go
> from 4.6 to 5.2?  Larger stroke crankshaft?
>
> While you didn't mention your location, I would suggest that you consider
> a Borg Warner T5 gearbox out of a Chevrolet Camaro or Ford Mustang --the
> V8 versions with the better gear ratios and larger diameter (25? 27?)
> spline input shaft.  Buick 215 engine bellhousings will bolt directly to
> the Camaro,  or adapters are available for the Ford gearboxes.   (I am
> based in the USA so all of these items are fairly readily available
> here.)
>
> Others can perhaps offer guidance regarding the rear differential.
> Probably many options there as well.
> Best regards,
> Dan
>
>
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From giannid at bigpond.com  Fri Jun 25 06:41:32 2010
From: giannid at bigpond.com (Gianni D'Ortenzio)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 21:41:32 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] rover SD1 upgrade
References: <20100625.063938.640.2.dmesmg@juno.com>
<BB3557F95C1844D2BDE27FE2EC896556@terrylewak5voh>
Message-ID: <F65BFC93-E78F-41DB-8E62-407D0CCEA8A4@bigpond.com>

I run a 5 litre in my P5B coupe with a 5 speed supra box
the 5 Litre is a fairly well known recipe often used to convert rangie
motors
a stroker crank, a 3.5 block from my 3500S, bored and sleeved for
falcon (6 cylinder) pistons, rangie 4.6 heads, a few minor mods along
the way and hey presto..... endless V8 torque and plenty of top end
power. we built mine not as a high revving but more a lazy powerful
unit to complement the supra box which I might say is a fantastic
(long recognized by hotrodders) combination
so far..... diff and axles still in one piece, bearing in mind the P5
diff and rangie diff are, if not twins, sisters
Cheers Gianni
Gianni D'Ortenzio
1948 P3 4 light
1949 P3 6 light
1969 P5BC
1971 P6B
1977 Lotus Elite
2004 Landrover Defender

On 26/06/2010, at 1:49 PM, Terry Broadbent wrote:

> Dan,
>
> thants is what i am looking at doing stroker kit in it.
>
> as for wher i live i am in australia so i don't know if i can source
> the parts that you sugested over here but i will certainly look into
> it.
>
>
> Terry
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <dmesmg at juno.com>
> To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 3:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] rover SD1 upgrade
>
>
>> Terry,
>> That sounds like an exciting project.  I am curious:  how will you go
>> from 4.6 to 5.2?  Larger stroke crankshaft?
>>
>> While you didn't mention your location, I would suggest that you
>> consider
>> a Borg Warner T5 gearbox out of a Chevrolet Camaro or Ford Mustang
>> --the
>> V8 versions with the better gear ratios and larger diameter (25? 27?)
>> spline input shaft.  Buick 215 engine bellhousings will bolt
>> directly to
>> the Camaro,  or adapters are available for the Ford gearboxes.   (I
>> am
>> based in the USA so all of these items are fairly readily available
>> here.)
>>
>> Others can perhaps offer guidance regarding the rear differential.
>> Probably many options there as well.
>> Best regards,
>> Dan
>>
>>
>> ____________________________________________________________
>> Refinance Now 4.0% FIXED!
>> $160,000 Mortgage for$633/mo. Free. No Obligation. Get 4 Quotes!
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>>
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From magnet at roverclub.org  Fri Jun 25 07:08:33 2010
From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 08:08:33 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] RoveAmerica 10
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP90A5B1228CB788FFF9FDF91C70@phx.gbl>

Just returned home last night from Dirk's RoveAmerica 10 event, and I
think I can say without fear of contradiction that this was the best
yet.  This year's gathering was truly an international celebration of
all things Rover, with a fascinating assortment of Rover vehicles and a
grand representation of Rover enthusiasts from Canada, the UK, and
Australia, as well as many of the States.

It is really inspiring to see so many Rovers at one time and one place,
and even better to have the opportunity to chat with like-minded souls
from around the world.  All thanks once again to Dirk Burrowes for the
enthusiasm, generosity, and sheer hard work that have made this event
such a tremendous success.  Thanks too to Lysiane, Joe Allan, and all
those others who contributed to the success of the event.  And a special
thank-you to Jo Manwell for the lovely lunch on Saturday, and the
enjoyable tour of Boston on Sunday.

Rover as a marque may have gone from the market, but as long as we have
enthusiasts such as Dirk (and everyone else who keeps their Rovers on
the road) it will never be forgotten.

Cheers,

From defender110 at ozemail.com.au  Fri Jun 25 07:19:18 2010
From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 21:49:18 +0930
Subject: [Rovernet ] rover SD1 upgrade
References: <20100625.063938.640.2.dmesmg@juno.com>
<BB3557F95C1844D2BDE27FE2EC896556@terrylewak5voh>
Message-ID: <4C249EC6.1020003@ozemail.com.au>

Terry
These guys local to me may be able to help and send Oz wide ...
They fitted a standard 4.6 to my now deceased SD1.
http://www.triumphroverspares.com.au
They can be expensive tho' ....
:-(

Cheers
Dave
South Oz

On 6/26/2010 1:19 PM, Terry Broadbent wrote:
> Dan,
>
> thants is what i am looking at doing stroker kit in it.
>
> as for wher i live i am in australia so i don't know if i can source the
> parts that you sugested over here but i will certainly look into it.
>
>
> Terry

From p6rovers at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 25 08:38:29 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:38:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] RoveAmerica 10
References: <BLU0-SMTP90A5B1228CB788FFF9FDF91C70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <755172.94420.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Well, said, Bill.
You could have another career as a journalist or as a "Consul-General" somewhere.
I was also there and recommend the experience and Bill's account. Pictures will begin to flow when we return at the end of this month.

Thanks to Dirk, Lysiane, Joe, and others who made the event a special occasion. I was amazed about all the folks from the UK who were willing to accept the costs and inconvenience of making it to the event. They contribute to the magnetism and passion of the event.

Eric
North Vancouver (still in Ontario)

"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975

----- Original Message ----
From: Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org>
To: ROVERNET <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Fri, June 25, 2010 8:08:33 AM
Subject: [Rovernet ] RoveAmerica 10

Just returned home last night from Dirk's RoveAmerica 10 event, and I think I can say without fear of contradiction that this was the best yet.  This year's gathering was truly an international celebration of all things Rover, with a fascinating assortment of Rover vehicles and a grand representation of Rover enthusiasts from Canada, the UK, and Australia, as well as many of the States.
It is really inspiring to see so many Rovers at one time and one place, and even better to have the opportunity to chat with like-minded souls from around the world.  All thanks once again to Dirk Burrowes for the enthusiasm, generosity, and sheer hard work that have made this event such a tremendous success.  Thanks too to Lysiane, Joe Allan, and all those others who contributed to the success of the event.  And a special thank-you to Jo Manwell for the lovely lunch on Saturday, and the enjoyable tour of Boston on Sunday.

Rover as a marque may have gone from the market, but as long as we have enthusiasts such as Dirk (and everyone else who keeps their Rovers on the road) it will never be forgotten.

Cheers,

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From kkinard at att.net  Fri Jun 25 09:46:47 2010
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:46:47 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] RoveAmerica 10
References: <BLU0-SMTP90A5B1228CB788FFF9FDF91C70@phx.gbl>
<755172.94420.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4C24C157.3020705@att.net>

I agree most wholeheartedly! We stayed with Steve and Jo Sunday night
and talked about all the improvements to the format. Going to Boston and
Fanueil Hall was good PR for Rover. Many people stopped and asked
questions and having the Land Rovers present made it easy to explain the
connection. Now if the weather hadn't been so much like Texas...

Especially appreciated were the activities for spouses which were
outstanding. Sheila really had a good time.

I said it Saturday night and it's still true. Only Dirk could put this
together. He is generous in the deepest sense of the word. To him,
Lysiane, Joe and Mari, Steve and Jo, a personal thank you and blessing.
I can't wait to see the pictures.

I think the UK folks found the trip worthwhile. I was certainly glad
they were present. Keith and I are working on a trade for stuff he can't
get in the UK (NAS/NADA) and I can't get in the US(2200TC). It takes a
village to raise a Rover.

RoveAmericaly,
Kent K.

Eric Russell wrote:
> Well, said, Bill.
> You could have another career as a journalist or as a "Consul-General" somewhere.
> I was also there and recommend the experience and Bill's account. Pictures will begin to flow when we return at the end of this month.
>
> Thanks to Dirk, Lysiane, Joe, and others who made the event a special occasion. I was amazed about all the folks from the UK who were willing to accept the costs and inconvenience of making it to the event. They contribute to the magnetism and passion of the event.
>
> Eric
> North Vancouver (still in Ontario)
>
>   "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
> "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Magnet<magnet at roverclub.org>
> To: ROVERNET<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Fri, June 25, 2010 8:08:33 AM
> Subject: [Rovernet ] RoveAmerica 10
>
> Just returned home last night from Dirk's RoveAmerica 10 event, and I think I can say without fear of contradiction that this was the best yet.  This year's gathering was truly an international celebration of all things Rover, with a fascinating assortment of Rover vehicles and a grand representation of Rover enthusiasts from Canada, the UK, and Australia, as well as many of the States.
> It is really inspiring to see so many Rovers at one time and one place, and even better to have the opportunity to chat with like-minded souls from around the world.  All thanks once again to Dirk Burrowes for the enthusiasm, generosity, and sheer hard work that have made this event such a tremendous success.  Thanks too to Lysiane, Joe Allan, and all those others who contributed to the success of the event.  And a special thank-you to Jo Manwell for the lovely lunch on Saturday, and the enjoyable tour of Boston on Sunday.
>
> Rover as a marque may have gone from the market, but as long as we have enthusiasts such as Dirk (and everyone else who keeps their Rovers on the road) it will never be forgotten.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -- Bill and Cherie Daddis
>
>
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From sdibdin at gmail.com  Fri Jun 25 09:54:18 2010
From: sdibdin at gmail.com (Steven Dibdin)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:54:18 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] RoveAmerica 10
References: <BLU0-SMTP90A5B1228CB788FFF9FDF91C70@phx.gbl>
<755172.94420.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<4C24C157.3020705@att.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilolZn4zmnb8ieKF7wPqPogLIOM6ROxGajSiRlx@mail.gmail.com>

I have to second everything said here. Dirk, Lysiane and Joe has been
incredibly generous both with their time and resources in creating what
become the only major Rover event on the US calander. I was joking with a
friend the other day that I could see him going as far as getting P6s back
into production before long.

Obviously he has helped me enormously over the last month with his help
after I had my accident in my 2000TC. I now believe that I can have this car
roadworthy despite my earlier conviction that it was beyond help.

Thank you for a wonderful weekend.

Steven
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From britishrover at gmail.com  Fri Jun 25 14:42:55 2010
From: britishrover at gmail.com (British Rover)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:42:55 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] RoveAmerica 10
References: <BLU0-SMTP90A5B1228CB788FFF9FDF91C70@phx.gbl>
<755172.94420.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <AANLkTinh68CFBGFkdHF4PIpDSDWwBpVzLIkEaQWS5isp@mail.gmail.com>

WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE PHOTOS..FROM MOST OF US WHO COULDN'T ATTEND..:o(

On 6/25/10, Steven Dibdin <sdibdin at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have to second everything said here. Dirk, Lysiane and Joe has been
> incredibly generous both with their time and resources in creating what
> become the only major Rover event on the US calander. I was joking with a
> friend the other day that I could see him going as far as getting P6s back
> into production before long.
>
> Obviously he has helped me enormously over the last month with his help
> after I had my accident in my 2000TC. I now believe that I can have this car
> roadworthy despite my earlier conviction that it was beyond help.
>
> Thank you for a wonderful weekend.
>
> Steven
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From rover2000nut at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 25 15:56:10 2010
From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:56:10 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S master cylinder
Message-ID: <BAY119-W48037F6737325015B8C10DDEC70@phx.gbl>

Hi all

My brake master cylinder on my P6 3500S was leaking so i went to rebuild it and the plastic retainer (#33 in the layout picture in the manual)on the small spring  end is broken   and the 2 plastic bearings (#37 and 39 in the picture) are scored and cut so i can see where the leak is coming from......i got a rebuild kit but of course these aren't included.....does anyone have these or know where to get them from......or better yet know where to get a rebuilt one ....The piston is banged up and the barrel does look the best

Ready to burn this thing in the garage

Cheers

Bill Robertson

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From kkinard at att.net  Fri Jun 25 17:33:22 2010
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 17:33:22 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S master cylinder
References: <BAY119-W48037F6737325015B8C10DDEC70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4C252EB2.10302@att.net>

Bill Robertson wrote:

Too bad you can't just send it to the Texas Rover Ranch. I'll look for
the pieces you need.
Roverly,
Kent K.
> Hi all
>
>
>
>          My brake master cylinder on my P6 3500S was leaking so i went to rebuild it and the plastic retainer (#33 in the layout picture in the manual)on the small spring  end is broken   and the 2 plastic bearings (#37 and 39 in the picture) are scored and cut so i can see where the leak is coming from......i got a rebuild kit but of course these aren't included.....does anyone have these or know where to get them from......or better yet know where to get a rebuilt one ....The piston is banged up and the barrel does look the best
>
> Ready to burn this thing in the garage
>
> Cheers
>
> Bill Robertson
>
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From vmitps at netspace.net.au  Fri Jun 25 17:34:22 2010
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 08:34:22 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] RoveAmerica 10
References: <BLU0-SMTP90A5B1228CB788FFF9FDF91C70@phx.gbl><755172.94420.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <02E057FBE2C5411F963A9BBAE5CA24ED@Vista>

>
> Especially appreciated were the activities for spouses which were
> outstanding. Sheila really had a good time.
>

Better than Roverus Abandonata.

(as defined in a classic Freewheeling article)

PVS

From kkinard at att.net  Fri Jun 25 17:53:14 2010
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 17:53:14 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] RoveAmerica 10
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<02E057FBE2C5411F963A9BBAE5CA24ED@Vista>
Message-ID: <4C25335A.7040402@att.net>

Tagalongi really hasn't forgiven me for selling her '51 Studebaker
Commander Starlight Coupe and that was in 1978:-(

Best I mind my P's and Q's.

Roverinthedoghousedly,
Kent K.
> Ahhh you had Roverus Tagalongi.
> Better than Roverus Abandonata.
>
> (as defined in a classic Freewheeling article)
>
> PVS
>

From magnet at roverclub.org  Fri Jun 25 18:45:45 2010
From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:45:45 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] RA 10 - a few pictures
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP61CC3F52A75D1CEECD262591C70@phx.gbl>

To whet your appetite for the "official" photos that Eric Russell so
kindly took of RoveAmerica 10, I have posted a few that I took to:

http://www.roverclub.org/ra10

There are 10 photos of some of the Rovers at Dirk's works in Fitchburg,
and 9 of the Rovers at Fanueil Hall, in Boston.

Cheers,

-- Bill D.

From den at aachenkennels.com  Fri Jun 25 19:36:00 2010
From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 08:36:00 +0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] rover SD1 upgrade
References: <B5F826318492448D93BB79EC5720520D@terrylewak5voh>

Hello Terry,
I recall not so long back I was investigating the rebuild and modifying
a P6 I found in a back yard. The best gearbox I found when considering
cost verse effect would be the supra same as Gianni recommends. Gatreg 6
speed are good but you pay for it. These chaps in Sydney offer a
complete service for conversions and helpful to chat to (
http://www.dellowconversions.com.au/ ).
As for the rear I would say start of finding out the spec on the TVR
back axel if you want quickness or jag if you want long legs for
touring. However for strength ford 9" will be hard to pass by, again
many around down here in OZ so should not be too pricey. After saying
all that I ended up selling the P6 and bought a go faster yellow SD1
some other chap had spent buckets of money on and which is still running
the SD Rear. I do give that some welly ever now and then with no
problems other than a knocking exhaust which I think is down to bushes'
to weak. If you want to be real sexy you could look at an ID set up from
a late model Holden! No one's looking at these and they are a bloody
good set up.

Now before you do the go faster stuff what are you looking at for
stopping it? I'd be recommending you get that sorted first. As you're
staying with the same motor weight should not be a problem but cornering
and keeping that power at the rubber will need suspension mods.

(Sorry if I'm teaching you to suck eggs)

Den in Perft.

36 Speed 14HP streamline coupe, ( gunnerdo )
46 P2 16HP Rover sports special tourer. (finishing)
47 P2 six light ( in bits).
SD1 with a go faster Rover 3.9 decked out as a 80s-racing car that the
fat ginger bloke used to drive.
99 Defender,
And in addition, a little orphaned 35 Riley Falcon called Amy that no
one wanted.....

-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2010 9:08 AM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet ] rover SD1 upgrade

Hello all

just need a little bit of advice from fellow rover enthusiast's i am
looking at taking the current 4.6 V8 that drives my lovely beast and
making it a 5.2 V8, i have been told that the standard transmission and
rear diffirential is unable to cope with the extra power that the 5.2
will be putting out.

so here are  my question's

1. what transmission would you recomend putting in to replace the
standard 5 speed?

2. what rear diff. should i also look at putting  in?

Thanks you all in advance for the advice that you will give.

Terry B
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From wb007727 at bigpond.net.au  Sat Jun 26 12:47:16 2010
From: wb007727 at bigpond.net.au (Terry Broadbent)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 10:47:16 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] rover SD1 upgrade
References: <B5F826318492448D93BB79EC5720520D@terrylewak5voh>
Message-ID: <FA9164E794B94B0C8450E189B75B584B@terrylewak5voh>

i have allready got 4 piston clapier bracks on all 4 corner they should be
enough stopting power for the upgrade as i did that when i put the 4.6in, i
have also lowered and put a sports suspension kit in with anti-roll sway
bars to stiffen the front end up for cornering again this was also done when
the 4.6 went in. the only modifaction that i was looking at with the
suspension is going from a standard lowerd shock to a adjustable one for
more options.

i hope this put's your fears to rest about stoping and cornering.

Terry B

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Gallacher" <den at aachenkennels.com>
To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] rover SD1 upgrade

> Hello Terry,
> I recall not so long back I was investigating the rebuild and modifying
> a P6 I found in a back yard. The best gearbox I found when considering
> cost verse effect would be the supra same as Gianni recommends. Gatreg 6
> speed are good but you pay for it. These chaps in Sydney offer a
> complete service for conversions and helpful to chat to (
> http://www.dellowconversions.com.au/ ).
> As for the rear I would say start of finding out the spec on the TVR
> back axel if you want quickness or jag if you want long legs for
> touring. However for strength ford 9" will be hard to pass by, again
> many around down here in OZ so should not be too pricey. After saying
> all that I ended up selling the P6 and bought a go faster yellow SD1
> some other chap had spent buckets of money on and which is still running
> the SD Rear. I do give that some welly ever now and then with no
> problems other than a knocking exhaust which I think is down to bushes'
> to weak. If you want to be real sexy you could look at an ID set up from
> a late model Holden! No one's looking at these and they are a bloody
> good set up.
>
> Now before you do the go faster stuff what are you looking at for
> stopping it? I'd be recommending you get that sorted first. As you're
> staying with the same motor weight should not be a problem but cornering
> and keeping that power at the rubber will need suspension mods.
>
> (Sorry if I'm teaching you to suck eggs)
>
> Den in Perft.
>
> 36 Speed 14HP streamline coupe, ( gunnerdo )
> 46 P2 16HP Rover sports special tourer. (finishing)
> 47 P2 six light ( in bits).
> SD1 with a go faster Rover 3.9 decked out as a 80s-racing car that the
> fat ginger bloke used to drive.
> 99 Defender,
> And in addition, a little orphaned 35 Riley Falcon called Amy that no
> one wanted.....
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On Behalf Of Terry Broadbent
> Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2010 9:08 AM
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet ] rover SD1 upgrade
>
> Hello all
>
> just need a little bit of advice from fellow rover enthusiast's i am
> looking at taking the current 4.6 V8 that drives my lovely beast and
> making it a 5.2 V8, i have been told that the standard transmission and
> rear diffirential is unable to cope with the extra power that the 5.2
> will be putting out.
>
> so here are  my question's
>
> 1. what transmission would you recomend putting in to replace the
> standard 5 speed?
>
> 2. what rear diff. should i also look at putting  in?
>
>
> Thanks you all in advance for the advice that you will give.
>
> Terry B
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 25 20:06:21 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:06:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] RoveAmerica 10
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<4C24C157.3020705@att.net> <02E057FBE2C5411F963A9BBAE5CA24ED@Vista>
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Great, Paul,....... great!

Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975

----- Original Message ----
From: Netspace <vmitps at netspace.net.au>
To: The original Rovernet ... <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Fri, June 25, 2010 12:34:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] RoveAmerica 10

>
> Especially appreciated were the activities for spouses which were outstanding. Sheila really had a good time.
>

Better than Roverus Abandonata.

(as defined in a classic Freewheeling article)

PVS

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From p6rovers at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 25 20:12:10 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:12:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] RA 10 - a few pictures
References: <BLU0-SMTP61CC3F52A75D1CEECD262591C70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <723111.9898.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Bill,..... Bill,.........Bill,........ you are too kind.....

Not official......

I turned over a USB drive of pictures at the awards section that Dirk asked me to take.

I would like to gather together links to pictures we ALL took and set up another page on the RCCC site like I did last year.  People can become fully immersed and enjoy a variety of points of view.

Sharing. Helping. Facilitating...... that's what Rover folk are about!

Eric

"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975

----- Original Message ----
From: Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org>
To: ROVERNET <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Fri, June 25, 2010 1:45:45 PM
Subject: [Rovernet ] RA 10 - a few pictures

To whet your appetite for the "official" photos that Eric Russell so kindly took of RoveAmerica 10, I have posted a few that I took to:

http://www.roverclub.org/ra10

There are 10 photos of some of the Rovers at Dirk's works in Fitchburg, and 9 of the Rovers at Fanueil Hall, in Boston.

Cheers,

-- Bill D.

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From renovations.plus at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 25 19:42:33 2010
From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com (Dennis Brooks)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 22:42:33 -0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
Message-ID: <BAY145-w40E3EACCDB74ABFC3C091B95C80@phx.gbl>

Well...the fuel return line did seem blocked ...I tried to blow air through and could not by mouth...used compressor and actually heard something let go...hope it was a good thing  !! of course I did have the fuel cover open at the time.

I tried starting the car but still only ran for a few seconds then died as before...then I decided to check the fuel flow again (did it last fall and was ok then) ...this tie it only pumps a little fuel followed by a spit of fuel and air...This may mean bad or clogged fuel filter. I don't think the pump would be bad ...do you ?

Regards

Dennis Brooks

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From ve7axq at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 25 22:31:10 2010
From: ve7axq at shaw.ca (rick mellenger)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:31:10 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
References: <BAY145-w40E3EACCDB74ABFC3C091B95C80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000001cb14e0$061636a0$1242a3e0$@ca> I would rebuild the fuel pump if it was me. The membrane could be weakened from age/ mine was. If you take the line off at the carbs, and hand pump it. And it doesn't shoot out past the fender, it's the pump membrane, only costs a few buck. My p6 2000tc, runs like a top now, all the best, Rick mellenger -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Dennis Brooks Sent: June-25-10 5:43 PM To: Rovernet Subject: [Rovernet ] My rover problems Well...the fuel return line did seem blocked ...I tried to blow air through and could not by mouth...used compressor and actually heard something let go...hope it was a good thing !! of course I did have the fuel cover open at the time. I tried starting the car but still only ran for a few seconds then died as before...then I decided to check the fuel flow again (did it last fall and was ok then) ...this tie it only pumps a little fuel followed by a spit of fuel and air...This may mean bad or clogged fuel filter. I don't think the pump would be bad ...do you ? Regards Dennis Brooks _________________________________________________________________ MSN Dating: Find someone special. Start now. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9734384 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/2010062 5/3c7959a6/attachment.html> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca From renovations.plus at hotmail.com Fri Jun 25 22:06:42 2010 From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com (Dennis Brooks) Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 01:06:42 -0200 Subject: [Rovernet ] My rover problems In-Reply-To: <000001cb14e0$061636a0$1242a3e0$@ca>
References: <BAY145-w40E3EACCDB74ABFC3C091B95C80@phx.gbl>,
<000001cb14e0$061636a0$1242a3e0$@ca> Message-ID: <BAY145-w43F1AEF68AC7375C65A89A95C80@phx.gbl> Thanks Rick... My pump is not very old...and I think I have a spare...but where do you get the replacement membrane ? Just as a point of interest ...did you kow that the stock fuel pump is exactly the same as is used on small single engine airplanes ? I wonder if our local flying club would have the membrane ..it may be worth checking with them. Regards Dennis Brooks > From: ve7axq at shaw.ca > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:31:10 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My rover problems > > I would rebuild the fuel pump if it was me. The membrane could be weakened > from age/ mine was. If you take the line off at the carbs, and hand pump > it. And it doesn't shoot out past the fender, it's the pump membrane, only > costs a few buck. My p6 2000tc, runs like a top now, all the best, > Rick mellenger > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On > Behalf Of Dennis Brooks > Sent: June-25-10 5:43 PM > To: Rovernet > Subject: [Rovernet ] My rover problems > > > > > Well...the fuel return line did seem blocked ...I tried to blow air through > and could not by mouth...used compressor and actually heard something let > go...hope it was a good thing !! of course I did have the fuel cover open > at the time. > > I tried starting the car but still only ran for a few seconds then died as > before...then I decided to check the fuel flow again (did it last fall and > was ok then) ...this tie it only pumps a little fuel followed by a spit of > fuel and air...This may mean bad or clogged fuel filter. I don't think the > pump would be bad ...do you ? > > > > Regards > > > > Dennis Brooks > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Dating: Find someone special. Start now. > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9734384 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/2010062 > 5/3c7959a6/attachment.html> > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure > to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca _________________________________________________________________ MSN Dating: Find someone special. Start now. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9734384 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100626/3632bcd9/attachment.html> From mikshdik at gmail.com Sat Jun 26 13:13:49 2010 From: mikshdik at gmail.com (Mike Shaddick) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 04:13:49 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet ] confirm bac41aedfed5774c4489dfc9a6b143dcdea611eb Message-ID: <AANLkTim1eEoqeqsbdGVqYm3SDsWxdbT-QJ7_luDZEWHy@mail.gmail.com> From ve7axq at shaw.ca Sat Jun 26 15:57:17 2010 From: ve7axq at shaw.ca (rick mellenger) Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 13:57:17 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet ] My rover problems In-Reply-To: <BAY145-w43F1AEF68AC7375C65A89A95C80@phx.gbl> References: <BAY145-w40E3EACCDB74ABFC3C091B95C80@phx.gbl> <000001cb14e0$061636a0$1242a3e0$@ca>
<BAY145-w43F1AEF68AC7375C65A89A95C80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000001cb1572$29ebded0$7dc39c70$@ca> Well I live in southern BC. Near Vancouver. I got it from All British Car parts. Ruth loves ROVERS, In the kit the 2 valves are included. I wonder if you blew air through them to make sure they are opening and closing properly. Any loss there would also affect volume. Don't forget the valve below and back from the pump, that controls the reserve supply opening.\it might have slipped so it is partially closing the main flow. The pump seems to be the same as i had in my 65 land rover, except glass in on top in the car. Good luck Rick me. -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Dennis Brooks Sent: June-25-10 8:07 PM To: Rovernet Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My rover problems Thanks Rick... My pump is not very old...and I think I have a spare...but where do you get the replacement membrane ? Just as a point of interest ...did you kow that the stock fuel pump is exactly the same as is used on small single engine airplanes ? I wonder if our local flying club would have the membrane ..it may be worth checking with them. Regards Dennis Brooks > From: ve7axq at shaw.ca > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:31:10 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My rover problems > > I would rebuild the fuel pump if it was me. The membrane could be weakened > from age/ mine was. If you take the line off at the carbs, and hand pump > it. And it doesn't shoot out past the fender, it's the pump membrane, only > costs a few buck. My p6 2000tc, runs like a top now, all the best, > Rick mellenger > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On > Behalf Of Dennis Brooks > Sent: June-25-10 5:43 PM > To: Rovernet > Subject: [Rovernet ] My rover problems > > > > > Well...the fuel return line did seem blocked ...I tried to blow air through > and could not by mouth...used compressor and actually heard something let > go...hope it was a good thing !! of course I did have the fuel cover open > at the time. > > I tried starting the car but still only ran for a few seconds then died as > before...then I decided to check the fuel flow again (did it last fall and > was ok then) ...this tie it only pumps a little fuel followed by a spit of > fuel and air...This may mean bad or clogged fuel filter. I don't think the > pump would be bad ...do you ? > > > > Regards > > > > Dennis Brooks > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Dating: Find someone special. Start now. > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9734384 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/2010062 > 5/3c7959a6/attachment.html> > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure > to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca _________________________________________________________________ MSN Dating: Find someone special. Start now. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9734384 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/2010062 6/3632bcd9/attachment.html> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca From slatskars at comcast.net Sat Jun 26 19:22:34 2010 From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 00:22:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rovernet ] My rover problems In-Reply-To: <000001cb1572$29ebded0$7dc39c70$@ca>
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I am currently very much into SU fuel pumps these days. My "new" passion and a small part time business, rebuilding and converting them to solid state. I have a question regarding the P-6 and P-6B series of Rovers. What kind of fuel pumps are installed on the P-6 and also the P-B? I know that my P-5 has a double ended electric SU of the 1500 Series. Each end works separately, as opposed to a 1400 series used on Rolls & Bentley that both ends work at the same time for volume. The P-5 uses one end for normal use and the other as a reserve fuel supply and back-up pump. In fact are the P-6 and or P-6B electric pumps. I know that SU did make some mechanical units.

Thanks,

Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "rick mellenger" <ve7axq at shaw.ca>
To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 1:57:17 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My rover problems

Well I live in southern BC. Near Vancouver. I got it from All British Car
parts. Ruth loves ROVERS, In the kit the 2 valves are included. I wonder if
you blew air through them to make sure they are opening and closing
properly. Any loss there would also affect volume. Don't forget the valve
below and back from the pump, that controls the reserve supply opening.\it
might have slipped so it is partially closing the main flow. The pump seems
to be the same as i had in my 65 land rover, except glass in on top in the
car.
Good luck
?Rick me.
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Dennis Brooks
Sent: June-25-10 8:07 PM
To: Rovernet
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My rover problems

?Thanks Rick...

?

My pump is not very old...and I think I have a spare...but where do you get
the replacement membrane ? ?Just as a point of interest ...did you kow that
the stock fuel pump is exactly the same as is used on small single engine
airplanes ? I wonder if our local flying club would have the membrane ..it
may be worth checking with them.

?

?Regards

?

?Dennis Brooks
> From: ve7axq at shaw.ca
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:31:10 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
>
> I would rebuild the fuel pump if it was me. The membrane could be weakened
> from age/ mine was. If you take the line off at the carbs, and hand pump
> it. And it doesn't shoot out past the fender, it's the pump membrane, only
> costs a few buck. My p6 2000tc, runs like a top now, all the best,
> Rick mellenger
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
On
> Behalf Of Dennis Brooks
> Sent: June-25-10 5:43 PM
> To: Rovernet
> Subject: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
>
>
>
>
> Well...the fuel return line did seem blocked ...I tried to blow air
through
> and could not by mouth...used compressor and actually heard something let
> go...hope it was a good thing !! of course I did have the fuel cover open
> at the time.
>
> I tried starting the car but still only ran for a few seconds then died as
> before...then I decided to check the fuel flow again (did it last fall and
> was ok then) ...this tie it only pumps a little fuel followed by a spit of
> fuel and air...This may mean bad or clogged fuel filter. I don't think the
> pump would be bad ...do you ?
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Dennis Brooks
>
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From sdibdin at gmail.com  Sat Jun 26 19:33:05 2010
From: sdibdin at gmail.com (Steven Dibdin)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 20:33:05 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
References: <707609046.8315281277598154142.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Hi Slats

The P6 2000 2200 engines have a delco mechanical pump. Normally with a
glass receptical on top but I have seen them with a steel one too.

Can't speak for the 3500s but I'm sure someone will chime in.

On Jun 26, 2010, at 8:22 PM, slatskars at comcast.net wrote:

>
>
> I am currently very much into SU fuel pumps these days. My "new"
> passion and a small part time business, rebuilding and converting
> them to solid state. I have a question regarding the P-6 and P-6B
> series of Rovers. What kind of fuel pumps are installed on the P-6
> and also the P-B? I know that my P-5 has a double ended electric SU
> of the 1500 Series. Each end works separately, as opposed to a 1400
> series used on Rolls & Bentley that both ends work at the same time
> for volume. The P-5 uses one end for normal use and the other as a
> reserve fuel supply and back-up pump. In fact are the P-6 and or
> P-6B electric pumps. I know that SU did make some mechanical units.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Slats
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rick mellenger" <ve7axq at shaw.ca>
> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 1:57:17 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
>
>
> Well I live in southern BC. Near Vancouver. I got it from All
> British Car
> parts. Ruth loves ROVERS, In the kit the 2 valves are included. I
> wonder if
> you blew air through them to make sure they are opening and closing
> properly. Any loss there would also affect volume. Don't forget the
> valve
> below and back from the pump, that controls the reserve supply
> opening.\it
> might have slipped so it is partially closing the main flow. The
> pump seems
> to be the same as i had in my 65 land rover, except glass in on top
> in the
> car.
> Good luck
>  Rick me.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-
> bounces at rovernet.ca] On
> Behalf Of Dennis Brooks
> Sent: June-25-10 8:07 PM
> To: Rovernet
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
>
>
>
>  Thanks Rick...
>
>
>
> My pump is not very old...and I think I have a spare...but where do
> you get
> the replacement membrane ?  Just as a point of interest ...did you
> kow that
> the stock fuel pump is exactly the same as is used on small single
> engine
> airplanes ? I wonder if our local flying club would have the
> membrane ..it
> may be worth checking with them.
>
>
>
>  Regards
>
>
>
>  Dennis Brooks
>> From: ve7axq at shaw.ca
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:31:10 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
>>
>> I would rebuild the fuel pump if it was me. The membrane could be
>> weakened
>> from age/ mine was. If you take the line off at the carbs, and hand
>> pump
>> it. And it doesn't shoot out past the fender, it's the pump
>> membrane, only
>> costs a few buck. My p6 2000tc, runs like a top now, all the best,
>> Rick mellenger
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-
>> bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On
>> Behalf Of Dennis Brooks
>> Sent: June-25-10 5:43 PM
>> To: Rovernet
>> Subject: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Well...the fuel return line did seem blocked ...I tried to blow air
> through
>> and could not by mouth...used compressor and actually heard
>> something let
>> go...hope it was a good thing !! of course I did have the fuel
>> cover open
>> at the time.
>>
>> I tried starting the car but still only ran for a few seconds then
>> died as
>> before...then I decided to check the fuel flow again (did it last
>> fall and
>> was ok then) ...this tie it only pumps a little fuel followed by a
>> spit of
>> fuel and air...This may mean bad or clogged fuel filter. I don't
>> think the
>> pump would be bad ...do you ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Dennis Brooks
>>
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From den at aachenkennels.com  Sat Jun 26 19:46:44 2010
From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 08:46:44 +0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] rover SD1 upgrade
<FA9164E794B94B0C8450E189B75B584B@terrylewak5voh>

Morning Terry,
you would have done all that with the first upgrade.

If it was me I think I would leave the Rover back axel as is, do a few
burnouts and see what breaks as they can take a bit of and after all if
it isn't broke why fix it and what else can you do with a old SD rear
end.

One other back axel that is gaining popularity, more so in the UK, is
the 240 Volvo or 740 turbo! I know firsthand they have the best disc and
hand brake set up and can take a lot of HP from V8. A lot of the UK
hotrod blokes are using them without modifying behind some big American
engines. Other than brackets I dont see fitting one to a SD as much of a
problem, dont know about ratios though.

BTW if I send you my private email could you send photos of your car?.
Den

-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
Sent: Sunday, 27 June 2010 1:47 AM
To: The original Rovernet ...
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] rover SD1 upgrade

i have allready got 4 piston clapier bracks on all 4 corner they should
be
enough stopting power for the upgrade as i did that when i put the
4.6in, i
have also lowered and put a sports suspension kit in with anti-roll sway

bars to stiffen the front end up for cornering again this was also done
when
the 4.6 went in. the only modifaction that i was looking at with the
suspension is going from a standard lowerd shock to a adjustable one for

more options.

i hope this put's your fears to rest about stoping and cornering.

Terry B

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Gallacher" <den at aachenkennels.com>
To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] rover SD1 upgrade

> Hello Terry,
> I recall not so long back I was investigating the rebuild and
modifying
> a P6 I found in a back yard. The best gearbox I found when considering
> cost verse effect would be the supra same as Gianni recommends. Gatreg
6
> speed are good but you pay for it. These chaps in Sydney offer a
> complete service for conversions and helpful to chat to (
> http://www.dellowconversions.com.au/ ).
> As for the rear I would say start of finding out the spec on the TVR
> back axel if you want quickness or jag if you want long legs for
> touring. However for strength ford 9" will be hard to pass by, again
> many around down here in OZ so should not be too pricey. After saying
> all that I ended up selling the P6 and bought a go faster yellow SD1
> some other chap had spent buckets of money on and which is still
running
> the SD Rear. I do give that some welly ever now and then with no
> problems other than a knocking exhaust which I think is down to
bushes'
> to weak. If you want to be real sexy you could look at an ID set up
from
> a late model Holden! No one's looking at these and they are a bloody
> good set up.
>
> Now before you do the go faster stuff what are you looking at for
> stopping it? I'd be recommending you get that sorted first. As you're
> staying with the same motor weight should not be a problem but
cornering
> and keeping that power at the rubber will need suspension mods.
>
> (Sorry if I'm teaching you to suck eggs)
>
> Den in Perft.
>
> 36 Speed 14HP streamline coupe, ( gunnerdo )
> 46 P2 16HP Rover sports special tourer. (finishing)
> 47 P2 six light ( in bits).
> SD1 with a go faster Rover 3.9 decked out as a 80s-racing car that the
> fat ginger bloke used to drive.
> 99 Defender,
> And in addition, a little orphaned 35 Riley Falcon called Amy that no
> one wanted.....
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
[mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On Behalf Of Terry Broadbent
> Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2010 9:08 AM
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet ] rover SD1 upgrade
>
> Hello all
>
> just need a little bit of advice from fellow rover enthusiast's i am
> looking at taking the current 4.6 V8 that drives my lovely beast and
> making it a 5.2 V8, i have been told that the standard transmission
and
> rear diffirential is unable to cope with the extra power that the 5.2
> will be putting out.
>
> so here are  my question's
>
> 1. what transmission would you recomend putting in to replace the
> standard 5 speed?
>
> 2. what rear diff. should i also look at putting  in?
>
>
> Thanks you all in advance for the advice that you will give.
>
> Terry B
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From vern at inkspotco.com  Sat Jun 26 20:06:25 2010
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 18:06:25 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
References: <707609046.8315281277598154142.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <82EA414B-88BE-4F79-B138-220031C7A427@inkspotco.com>

The 4 cyl pumps with the metal bowls are high pressure pumps introduced when they added a return line to the fuel tank to try and prevent vapour lock. High pressure being a relative term, of course.

The V8's all used electrical pumps as far as I know, but that's not my area.

Yours
Vern

On 2010-06-26, at 5:33 PM, Steven Dibdin wrote:

> Hi Slats
>
> The P6 2000 2200 engines have a delco mechanical pump. Normally with a glass receptical on top but I have seen them with a steel one too.
>
> Can't speak for the 3500s but I'm sure someone will chime in.
>
>
>
> On Jun 26, 2010, at 8:22 PM, slatskars at comcast.net wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I am currently very much into SU fuel pumps these days. My "new" passion and a small part time business, rebuilding and converting them to solid state. I have a question regarding the P-6 and P-6B series of Rovers. What kind of fuel pumps are installed on the P-6 and also the P-B? I know that my P-5 has a double ended electric SU of the 1500 Series. Each end works separately, as opposed to a 1400 series used on Rolls & Bentley that both ends work at the same time for volume. The P-5 uses one end for normal use and the other as a reserve fuel supply and back-up pump. In fact are the P-6 and or P-6B electric pumps. I know that SU did make some mechanical units.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Slats
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "rick mellenger" <ve7axq at shaw.ca>
>> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 1:57:17 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
>>
>>
>> Well I live in southern BC. Near Vancouver. I got it from All British Car
>> parts. Ruth loves ROVERS, In the kit the 2 valves are included. I wonder if
>> you blew air through them to make sure they are opening and closing
>> properly. Any loss there would also affect volume. Don't forget the valve
>> below and back from the pump, that controls the reserve supply opening.\it
>> might have slipped so it is partially closing the main flow. The pump seems
>> to be the same as i had in my 65 land rover, except glass in on top in the
>> car.
>> Good luck
>> Rick me.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
>> Behalf Of Dennis Brooks
>> Sent: June-25-10 8:07 PM
>> To: Rovernet
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Rick...
>>
>>
>>
>> My pump is not very old...and I think I have a spare...but where do you get
>> the replacement membrane ?  Just as a point of interest ...did you kow that
>> the stock fuel pump is exactly the same as is used on small single engine
>> airplanes ? I wonder if our local flying club would have the membrane ..it
>> may be worth checking with them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Dennis Brooks
>>> From: ve7axq at shaw.ca
>>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>>> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:31:10 -0700
>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
>>>
>>> I would rebuild the fuel pump if it was me. The membrane could be weakened
>>> from age/ mine was. If you take the line off at the carbs, and hand pump
>>> it. And it doesn't shoot out past the fender, it's the pump membrane, only
>>> costs a few buck. My p6 2000tc, runs like a top now, all the best,
>>> Rick mellenger
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
>> On
>>> Behalf Of Dennis Brooks
>>> Sent: June-25-10 5:43 PM
>>> To: Rovernet
>>> Subject: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well...the fuel return line did seem blocked ...I tried to blow air
>> through
>>> and could not by mouth...used compressor and actually heard something let
>>> go...hope it was a good thing !! of course I did have the fuel cover open
>>> at the time.
>>>
>>> I tried starting the car but still only ran for a few seconds then died as
>>> before...then I decided to check the fuel flow again (did it last fall and
>>> was ok then) ...this tie it only pumps a little fuel followed by a spit of
>>> fuel and air...This may mean bad or clogged fuel filter. I don't think the
>>> pump would be bad ...do you ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dennis Brooks
>>>
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From jaguru at bellsouth.net  Sat Jun 26 20:06:15 2010
From: jaguru at bellsouth.net (James Dean)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:06:15 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
References: <707609046.8315281277598154142.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

A question about double SU pumps. Moss Motors sells a double pump for V12
Etype, and possibly MG race cars. I always assumed this was the same as
Rolls Royce, and was the same as P5. Occasionally I get a call for one for a
P5 or a Rolls Royce. I usually buy one from Moss and resell it; so I need to
determine which type that Etype is.. I was not aware there are 2 types. I
comebacks or failure iof the solid state type. My guess is a grain of dirt
will stop them, but the points type is more tolerant.. Any opinions? James
Dean
----- Original Message -----
From: <slatskars at comcast.net>
To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My rover problems

>
>
> I am currently very much into SU fuel pumps these days. My "new" passion
> and a small part time business, rebuilding and converting them to solid
> state. I have a question regarding the P-6 and P-6B series of Rovers. What
> kind of fuel pumps are installed on the P-6 and also the P-B? I know that
> my P-5 has a double ended electric SU of the 1500 Series. Each end works
> separately, as opposed to a 1400 series used on Rolls & Bentley that both
> ends work at the same time for volume. The P-5 uses one end for normal use
> and the other as a reserve fuel supply and back-up pump. In fact are the
> P-6 and or P-6B electric pumps. I know that SU did make some mechanical
> units.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Slats
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rick mellenger" <ve7axq at shaw.ca>
> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 1:57:17 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
>
>
> Well I live in southern BC. Near Vancouver. I got it from All British Car
> parts. Ruth loves ROVERS, In the kit the 2 valves are included. I wonder
> if
> you blew air through them to make sure they are opening and closing
> properly. Any loss there would also affect volume. Don't forget the valve
> below and back from the pump, that controls the reserve supply opening.\it
> might have slipped so it is partially closing the main flow. The pump
> seems
> to be the same as i had in my 65 land rover, except glass in on top in the
> car.
> Good luck
> Rick me.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On
> Behalf Of Dennis Brooks
> Sent: June-25-10 8:07 PM
> To: Rovernet
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
>
>
>
> Thanks Rick...
>
>
>
> My pump is not very old...and I think I have a spare...but where do you
> get
> the replacement membrane ? Just as a point of interest ...did you kow that
> the stock fuel pump is exactly the same as is used on small single engine
> airplanes ? I wonder if our local flying club would have the membrane ..it
> may be worth checking with them.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Dennis Brooks
>> From: ve7axq at shaw.ca
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:31:10 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
>>
>> I would rebuild the fuel pump if it was me. The membrane could be
>> weakened
>> from age/ mine was. If you take the line off at the carbs, and hand pump
>> it. And it doesn't shoot out past the fender, it's the pump membrane,
>> only
>> costs a few buck. My p6 2000tc, runs like a top now, all the best,
>> Rick mellenger
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On
>> Behalf Of Dennis Brooks
>> Sent: June-25-10 5:43 PM
>> To: Rovernet
>> Subject: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Well...the fuel return line did seem blocked ...I tried to blow air
> through
>> and could not by mouth...used compressor and actually heard something let
>> go...hope it was a good thing !! of course I did have the fuel cover open
>> at the time.
>>
>> I tried starting the car but still only ran for a few seconds then died
>> as
>> before...then I decided to check the fuel flow again (did it last fall
>> and
>> was ok then) ...this tie it only pumps a little fuel followed by a spit
>> of
>> fuel and air...This may mean bad or clogged fuel filter. I don't think
>> the
>> pump would be bad ...do you ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Dennis Brooks
>>
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From slatskars at comcast.net  Sat Jun 26 20:48:25 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 01:48:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
Message-ID: <284828355.8327491277603305231.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

James,

The double one used on the Rolls is like having two MGB pump coils with a single body in the center. It puts out 3.8 PSI but can handle a volume up to 30 GPH. The MGB pump puts out the same PSI, but 15 GPH. My P-5 is set up with the two ends operating one at a time, with separate switching to each end. The body in the center is set up differently. It has two inputs and one outlet, instead of just one inlet. If you are having difficulty with the solid state units from MOSS, they are Hall effect units and I have heard about approximately 20% failure rate. The units I am doing use an optical trigger sensor. I just received a parts order from Burlen Fuel Systems (BFS) who have taken over the SU line. Along with my parts, I also ordered one of their solid state modification kits to compare them. There is a metal vane type of thing in the mechanism that must be adjusted for the pump to operate properly. I would suspect that this may have moved during shipping from rough handling and may be the cause of the problem. You may want to purchase one of the kits in order to get the instruction manual or you may be able to view it on their web site. Just Google SU carbs and they should come up. If you Google SU fuel pumps you will come up with Dave Dubois web site. His is the system that I am using. Dave only re-builds pump from Oct to May. I have been in contact with him and in fact spent two days with him going over the process. He asked me to assist with the workload as he get swamped at times, with like a six week waiting list. I am just about up to speed on building my special tools, jigs and test bench. I should be into full capability within a week to ten days. I re-build will average approximately $100 per unit (close to double for a double ended pump. This entails a complete tear down replacement of all necessary parts, including a new diaphragm, bead blasted, repainting, checking?all check valve (polishing vales and seats or replacing as required), installing the solid state components, testing and running the pump for 24 hours as a fail safe test. It includes a one year warranty. They can be built to either positive or negative?ground configuration. The units with also come with a specification sheet, giving fuel flow pressure, vacuum, GPH, etc. An examination of the unit upon receipt will be made and an evaluation and estimate will be given before work begins. If the cost is going to be too near the cost of a new one because of too?parts may be required (damaged body, etc.), I would then advice that a new unit be purchased instead.?With the current price on new ones, a unit would have to be pretty bad to exceed$120. I bought up all the used pumps in the greater Portland area and probably have 95 or so to cannibalize for parts. My pricing and procedures will mirror,?Dave's practices.

Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Dean" <jaguru at bellsouth.net>
To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 6:06:15 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My rover problems

A question about double SU pumps. Moss Motors sells a double pump for V12
Etype, and possibly MG race cars. I always assumed this was the same as
Rolls Royce, and was the same as P5. Occasionally I get a call for one for a
P5 or a Rolls Royce. I usually buy one from Moss and resell it; so I need to
determine which type that Etype is.. I was not aware there are 2 types. I
comebacks or failure iof the solid state type. My guess is a grain of dirt
will stop them, but the points type is more tolerant.. Any opinions? James
Dean
----- Original Message -----
From: <slatskars at comcast.net>
To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My rover problems

>
>
> I am currently very much into SU fuel pumps these days. My "new" passion
> and a small part time business, rebuilding and converting them to solid
> state. I have a question regarding the P-6 and P-6B series of Rovers. What
> kind of fuel pumps are installed on the P-6 and also the P-B? I know that
> my P-5 has a double ended electric SU of the 1500 Series. Each end works
> separately, as opposed to a 1400 series used on Rolls & Bentley that both
> ends work at the same time for volume. The P-5 uses one end for normal use
> and the other as a reserve fuel supply and back-up pump. In fact are the
> P-6 and or P-6B electric pumps. I know that SU did make some mechanical
> units.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Slats
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rick mellenger" <ve7axq at shaw.ca>
> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 1:57:17 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
>
>
> Well I live in southern BC. Near Vancouver. I got it from All British Car
> parts. Ruth loves ROVERS, In the kit the 2 valves are included. I wonder
> if
> you blew air through them to make sure they are opening and closing
> properly. Any loss there would also affect volume. Don't forget the valve
> below and back from the pump, that controls the reserve supply opening.\it
> might have slipped so it is partially closing the main flow. The pump
> seems
> to be the same as i had in my 65 land rover, except glass in on top in the
> car.
> Good luck
> Rick me.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On
> Behalf Of Dennis Brooks
> Sent: June-25-10 8:07 PM
> To: Rovernet
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
>
>
>
> Thanks Rick...
>
>
>
> My pump is not very old...and I think I have a spare...but where do you
> get
> the replacement membrane ? Just as a point of interest ...did you kow that
> the stock fuel pump is exactly the same as is used on small single engine
> airplanes ? I wonder if our local flying club would have the membrane ..it
> may be worth checking with them.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Dennis Brooks
>> From: ve7axq at shaw.ca
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:31:10 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
>>
>> I would rebuild the fuel pump if it was me. The membrane could be
>> weakened
>> from age/ mine was. If you take the line off at the carbs, and hand pump
>> it. And it doesn't shoot out past the fender, it's the pump membrane,
>> only
>> costs a few buck. My p6 2000tc, runs like a top now, all the best,
>> Rick mellenger
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On
>> Behalf Of Dennis Brooks
>> Sent: June-25-10 5:43 PM
>> To: Rovernet
>> Subject: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Well...the fuel return line did seem blocked ...I tried to blow air
> through
>> and could not by mouth...used compressor and actually heard something let
>> go...hope it was a good thing !! of course I did have the fuel cover open
>> at the time.
>>
>> I tried starting the car but still only ran for a few seconds then died
>> as
>> before...then I decided to check the fuel flow again (did it last fall
>> and
>> was ok then) ...this tie it only pumps a little fuel followed by a spit
>> of
>> fuel and air...This may mean bad or clogged fuel filter. I don't think
>> the
>> pump would be bad ...do you ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Dennis Brooks
>>
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From slatskars at comcast.net  Sat Jun 26 20:54:32 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 01:54:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
Message-ID: <390333664.8328331277603672669.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Hi Steven,

Thanks for the info. I am truely surprised that they didn't use an SU on the P-6's. Using a mechanical on the V-8's would have made more sense to me. But then look what BL did with the MGTF engines. They?developed a separate 1500 cc engine, for a short run ( 6 months), while at the same time they were developing a 1500 cc engine for the MGA and Nash Metropolitan. No wonder they had financial problems.

Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Dibdin" <sdibdin at gmail.com>
To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 5:33:05 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My rover problems

Hi Slats

The P6 2000 2200 engines have a delco mechanical pump. Normally with a ?
glass receptical on top but I have seen them with a steel one too.

Can't speak for the 3500s but I'm sure someone will chime in.

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From slatskars at comcast.net  Sat Jun 26 20:55:47 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 01:55:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
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Thanks Vern,

Cheers,

Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vern Klukas" <vern at inkspotco.com>
To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 6:06:25 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My rover problems

The 4 cyl pumps with the metal bowls are high pressure pumps introduced when they added a return line to the fuel tank to try and prevent vapour lock. High pressure being a relative term, of course.

The V8's all used electrical pumps as far as I know, but that's not my area.

Yours
Vern

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From vmitps at netspace.net.au  Sat Jun 26 21:14:50 2010
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:14:50 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
<82EA414B-88BE-4F79-B138-220031C7A427@inkspotco.com>
Message-ID: <1553B78867E14C99AABE1A174BB5D374@Vista>

V8s in Australia had mech pumps with a fuel line feed past the left exhaust
manifold.
Strangely they had vapour lock problems in summer here... and Leyland
England refused to acknowledge it as fact.
Electric pumps fix it.

PVS

----- Original Message -----
From: "Vern Klukas" <vern at inkspotco.com>
To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My rover problems

> The 4 cyl pumps with the metal bowls are high pressure pumps introduced
> when they added a return line to the fuel tank to try and prevent vapour
> lock. High pressure being a relative term, of course.
>
> The V8's all used electrical pumps as far as I know, but that's not my
> area.
>
> Yours
> Vern
>
>
> On 2010-06-26, at 5:33 PM, Steven Dibdin wrote:
>
>> Hi Slats
>>
>> The P6 2000 2200 engines have a delco mechanical pump. Normally with a
>> glass receptical on top but I have seen them with a steel one too.
>>
>> Can't speak for the 3500s but I'm sure someone will chime in.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 26, 2010, at 8:22 PM, slatskars at comcast.net wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am currently very much into SU fuel pumps these days. My "new" passion
>>> and a small part time business, rebuilding and converting them to solid
>>> state. I have a question regarding the P-6 and P-6B series of Rovers.
>>> What kind of fuel pumps are installed on the P-6 and also the P-B? I
>>> know that my P-5 has a double ended electric SU of the 1500 Series. Each
>>> end works separately, as opposed to a 1400 series used on Rolls &
>>> Bentley that both ends work at the same time for volume. The P-5 uses
>>> one end for normal use and the other as a reserve fuel supply and
>>> back-up pump. In fact are the P-6 and or P-6B electric pumps. I know
>>> that SU did make some mechanical units.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Slats
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "rick mellenger" <ve7axq at shaw.ca>
>>> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 1:57:17 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
>>>
>>>
>>> Well I live in southern BC. Near Vancouver. I got it from All British
>>> Car
>>> parts. Ruth loves ROVERS, In the kit the 2 valves are included. I wonder
>>> if
>>> you blew air through them to make sure they are opening and closing
>>> properly. Any loss there would also affect volume. Don't forget the
>>> valve
>>> below and back from the pump, that controls the reserve supply
>>> opening.\it
>>> might have slipped so it is partially closing the main flow. The pump
>>> seems
>>> to be the same as i had in my 65 land rover, except glass in on top in
>>> the
>>> car.
>>> Good luck
>>> Rick me.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Dennis Brooks
>>> Sent: June-25-10 8:07 PM
>>> To: Rovernet
>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Rick...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My pump is not very old...and I think I have a spare...but where do you
>>> get
>>> the replacement membrane ?  Just as a point of interest ...did you kow
>>> that
>>> the stock fuel pump is exactly the same as is used on small single
>>> engine
>>> airplanes ? I wonder if our local flying club would have the membrane
>>> ..it
>>> may be worth checking with them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dennis Brooks
>>>> From: ve7axq at shaw.ca
>>>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>>>> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:31:10 -0700
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
>>>>
>>>> I would rebuild the fuel pump if it was me. The membrane could be
>>>> weakened
>>>> from age/ mine was. If you take the line off at the carbs, and hand
>>>> pump
>>>> it. And it doesn't shoot out past the fender, it's the pump membrane,
>>>> only
>>>> costs a few buck. My p6 2000tc, runs like a top now, all the best,
>>>> Rick mellenger
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
>>>> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Dennis Brooks
>>>> Sent: June-25-10 5:43 PM
>>>> To: Rovernet
>>>> Subject: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well...the fuel return line did seem blocked ...I tried to blow air
>>> through
>>>> and could not by mouth...used compressor and actually heard something
>>>> let
>>>> go...hope it was a good thing !! of course I did have the fuel cover
>>>> open
>>>> at the time.
>>>>
>>>> I tried starting the car but still only ran for a few seconds then died
>>>> as
>>>> before...then I decided to check the fuel flow again (did it last fall
>>>> and
>>>> was ok then) ...this tie it only pumps a little fuel followed by a spit
>>>> of
>>>> fuel and air...This may mean bad or clogged fuel filter. I don't think
>>>> the
>>>> pump would be bad ...do you ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dennis Brooks
>>>>
>>>> _________________________________________________________________
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From den at aachenkennels.com  Sat Jun 26 23:06:32 2010
From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:06:32 +0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] RA 10 - a few pictures
References: <BLU0-SMTP61CC3F52A75D1CEECD262591C70@phx.gbl>

Hello Bill,
Having a break from the garage I thought I would have a look at the
photos. Looks like you blokes had a super time. Would have liked to have
gone however as it was in Boston not sure if we limeys are forgiven for
the tea tax...! More so when I look at the two soldiers, that pointy
thing on the end of the musket looks a bit sharp to me. (smile)

Being more a fan of the pre WWII cars the photos of the old cars
appealed to me most. In the second photo down there is a line up outside
a white wall. Going from left to right the fourth car along looks like a
tourer. Is that a P2 12 or a special? If it is a special do you have an
email for the owner, as I would like to see more of the car. Also in the
fifth photo down there are two that have me interested this time going
right to left they are the fourth and fifth cars. Forth I'm not sure of
as I can only see an unusual front. Then there is a toured again but is
this a special.

As you may have guessed the specials or unusual cars are what I like.
Just wondering if you have more information or photos you could send
down to Oz.

Den.

-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
On Behalf Of Magnet
Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2010 7:46 AM
To: ROVERNET
Subject: [Rovernet ] RA 10 - a few pictures

To whet your appetite for the "official" photos that Eric Russell so
kindly took of RoveAmerica 10, I have posted a few that I took to:

http://www.roverclub.org/ra10

There are 10 photos of some of the Rovers at Dirk's works in Fitchburg,
and 9 of the Rovers at Fanueil Hall, in Boston.

Cheers,

-- Bill D.

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From magnet at roverclub.org  Sun Jun 27 06:54:19 2010
From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:54:19 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] RA 10 - a few pictures
References: <BLU0-SMTP61CC3F52A75D1CEECD262591C70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP1003D107DBE784D04FB848291C90@phx.gbl>

Hi Dennis,

Yes, we did indeed have a great time.  The Tourer you see belongs to
Hank Manwell, I don't have his email address, but I'm reasonably certain
he reads this list.  There are a few more photos of it on the TARC site, at

http://www.roverclub.org/henrym.htm

The other old Rovers in the photo are mainly from Dirk Burrowes'
collection (see http://www.roveramerica.com/Dirks_Cars.html ) and left
to right are a 1926 9/20, a 1929 saloon with fabric-covered body by
Weymann, a 1933 Meteor, a 1948 P3, a 1950 P4 "Cyclops", and a 105R.
After that come my 1959 "90", and (perhaps) Lloyd LeGrow's P5 and Steve
Manwell's "100".

Cheers,

-- Bill

==================================

Dennis Gallacher wrote:
> Hello Bill,
> Having a break from the garage I thought I would have a look at the
> photos. Looks like you blokes had a super time. Would have liked to have
> gone however as it was in Boston not sure if we limeys are forgiven for
> the tea tax...! More so when I look at the two soldiers, that pointy
> thing on the end of the musket looks a bit sharp to me. (smile)
>
> Being more a fan of the pre WWII cars the photos of the old cars
> appealed to me most. In the second photo down there is a line up outside
> a white wall. Going from left to right the fourth car along looks like a
> tourer. Is that a P2 12 or a special? If it is a special do you have an
> email for the owner, as I would like to see more of the car. Also in the
> fifth photo down there are two that have me interested this time going
> right to left they are the fourth and fifth cars. Forth I'm not sure of
> as I can only see an unusual front. Then there is a toured again but is
> this a special.
>
> As you may have guessed the specials or unusual cars are what I like.
> Just wondering if you have more information or photos you could send
> down to Oz.
>
> Thanks for posting the link.
> Den.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On Behalf Of Magnet
> Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2010 7:46 AM
> To: ROVERNET
> Subject: [Rovernet ] RA 10 - a few pictures
>
> To whet your appetite for the "official" photos that Eric Russell so
> kindly took of RoveAmerica 10, I have posted a few that I took to:
>
> http://www.roverclub.org/ra10
>
> There are 10 photos of some of the Rovers at Dirk's works in Fitchburg,
> and 9 of the Rovers at Fanueil Hall, in Boston.
>
> Cheers,
>
>  -- Bill D.
>
>
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Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 22:38:05 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Ebay range rover
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From: ghegranes at msn.com (Grant Hegranes)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:08:53 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] My rover problems
References: <BAY145-w40E3EACCDB74ABFC3C091B95C80@phx.gbl>, ,
<000001cb14e0$061636a0$1242a3e0$@ca>, <BAY145-w43F1AEF68AC7375C65A89A95C80@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <COL106-W300DAE846F68EB7A32C15FA3C90@phx.gbl> As for membranes, I remember making one out of my wife's shower cap beside the road in Mexico one Christmas. I miss my Rover. She always came through. Even now she is donating from Dirks yard. Finest auto I have ever had, and I have had a lot. Grant > From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 01:06:42 -0200 > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My rover problems > > > > Thanks Rick... > > > > My pump is not very old...and I think I have a spare...but where do you get the replacement membrane ? Just as a point of interest ...did you kow that the stock fuel pump is exactly the same as is used on small single engine airplanes ? I wonder if our local flying club would have the membrane ..it may be worth checking with them. > > > > Regards > > > > Dennis Brooks > > From: ve7axq at shaw.ca > > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:31:10 -0700 > > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My rover problems > > > > I would rebuild the fuel pump if it was me. The membrane could be weakened > > from age/ mine was. If you take the line off at the carbs, and hand pump > > it. And it doesn't shoot out past the fender, it's the pump membrane, only > > costs a few buck. My p6 2000tc, runs like a top now, all the best, > > Rick mellenger > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On > > Behalf Of Dennis Brooks > > Sent: June-25-10 5:43 PM > > To: Rovernet > > Subject: [Rovernet ] My rover problems > > > > > > > > > > Well...the fuel return line did seem blocked ...I tried to blow air through > > and could not by mouth...used compressor and actually heard something let > > go...hope it was a good thing !! of course I did have the fuel cover open > > at the time. > > > > I tried starting the car but still only ran for a few seconds then died as > > before...then I decided to check the fuel flow again (did it last fall and > > was ok then) ...this tie it only pumps a little fuel followed by a spit of > > fuel and air...This may mean bad or clogged fuel filter. I don't think the > > pump would be bad ...do you ? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Dennis Brooks > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN Dating: Find someone special. Start now. > > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9734384 > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > > <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/2010062 > > 5/3c7959a6/attachment.html> > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure > > to scroll down the whole page. > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > > > > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Dating: Find someone special. Start now. > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9734384 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100626/3632bcd9/attachment.html> > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100627/0324bb1f/attachment.html> From sdibdin at gmail.com Sun Jun 27 16:16:54 2010 From: sdibdin at gmail.com (Steven Dibdin) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 17:16:54 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] Spen King In-Reply-To: <COL106-W300DAE846F68EB7A32C15FA3C90@phx.gbl> References: <BAY145-w40E3EACCDB74ABFC3C091B95C80@phx.gbl>, , <000001cb14e0$061636a0$1242a3e0$@ca>,
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>
> I've just heard from the classic Rover forum that Charles Spencer
> King died  today from injuries sustained after I cycling accident.

>

From R.Thornton at adelaidecitycouncil.com  Sun Jun 27 17:08:21 2010
From: R.Thornton at adelaidecitycouncil.com (Robert Thornton)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 07:38:21 +0930
Subject: [Rovernet ] rover SD1 upgrade
References: <B5F826318492448D93BB79EC5720520D@terrylewak5voh>

1. Supra 5 speed steel case (W55 or 57 I think) with Dellow adaptor kit - there's lots of info on the web about this conversion, and they're much stronger than a T5 or R380;

2. Quaiffe SD1 LSD (ideally with uprated shafts if you can find any) although I have heard of V8 Ford Falcon, V8 Holden Commodore and even Nissan Pintara rear ends being adapted. I recall BL even tried a Jag set up on one of their (Paris to Peking) rally cars in the early '80s.

Cheers
Rob

-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Terry Broadbent
Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2010 10:38 AM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet ] rover SD1 upgrade

Hello all

just need a little bit of advice from fellow rover enthusiast's i am looking at taking the current 4.6 V8 that drives my lovely beast and making it a 5.2 V8, i have been told that the standard transmission and rear diffirential is unable to cope with the extra power that the 5.2 will be putting out.

so here are  my question's

1. what transmission would you recomend putting in to replace the standard 5 speed?

2. what rear diff. should i also look at putting  in?

Thanks you all in advance for the advice that you will give.

Terry B
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From bwhitten at optusnet.com.au  Sun Jun 27 18:55:14 2010
From: bwhitten at optusnet.com.au (bwhitten at optusnet.com.au)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:55:14 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] ebay range rover
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From renovations.plus at hotmail.com  Sun Jun 27 18:47:12 2010
From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com (Dennis Brooks)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 21:47:12 -0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
Message-ID: <BAY145-w4395BC27B168BFA35B8E2795CA0@phx.gbl>

Well it does seem to be a fuel problem that I have. I can only get a trickle from the fuel pump. (BTW...the bendix has no diaphram according to book) .

I am suspecting that the reserve fuel tap has gone bad and is not letting fuel enter the pump itself ...the reason I say this is because I removed the cut off plug at the pump and nothing was coming from the tank ...not a drop at first ...untill I played with the reserve tap...then it only gave me a trickle. I also tried blowing air through the fuel return line and it was a hard push ...is this normal ? shouldn't I be able to freely blow air back to the tank ?  Has anyone here had problems with thereserve tap ?? Has anyone tried removing the tap and using a bypass ? Is there any chance that the tank itself has plugged up and caused this ?

Thanks...

Regards

Dennis Brooks

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From vmitps at netspace.net.au  Sun Jun 27 19:35:33 2010
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:35:33 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
References: <BAY145-w4395BC27B168BFA35B8E2795CA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <9B13E08DD14B44E89A5E570DDBC64DA2@Vista>

Make sure the tap is in the Main or Reserve position.
They can get stuck halfway.
They move through 90 degrees.

PVS

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Brooks" <renovations.plus at hotmail.com>
To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:47 AM
Subject: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)

>
>
>
> Well it does seem to be a fuel problem that I have. I can only get a
> trickle from the fuel pump. (BTW...the bendix has no diaphram according to
> book) .
>
> I am suspecting that the reserve fuel tap has gone bad and is not letting
> fuel enter the pump itself ...the reason I say this is because I removed
> the cut off plug at the pump and nothing was coming from the tank ...not a
> drop at first ...untill I played with the reserve tap...then it only gave
> me a trickle. I also tried blowing air through the fuel return line and it
> was a hard push ...is this normal ? shouldn't I be able to freely blow air
> back to the tank ?  Has anyone here had problems with thereserve tap ??
> Has anyone tried removing the tap and using a bypass ? Is there any chance
> that the tank itself has plugged up and caused this ?
>
>
>
> Thanks...
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Dennis Brooks
>
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From renovations.plus at hotmail.com  Sun Jun 27 19:20:39 2010
From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com (Dennis Brooks)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 22:20:39 -0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
References: <BAY145-w4395BC27B168BFA35B8E2795CA0@phx.gbl>,
<9B13E08DD14B44E89A5E570DDBC64DA2@Vista>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w38AFC506F3D3521294B54095CA0@phx.gbl>

I did that...I tried both ways untill I got the best trickle ...lol  ..although there may be something internal not moving properly...not too sure. The tap is leaking slightly as well...

Regards

Dennis Brooks

> From: vmitps at netspace.net.au
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:35:33 +1000
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
>
> Make sure the tap is in the Main or Reserve position.
> They can get stuck halfway.
> They move through 90 degrees.
>
> PVS
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dennis Brooks" <renovations.plus at hotmail.com>
> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:47 AM
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Well it does seem to be a fuel problem that I have. I can only get a
> > trickle from the fuel pump. (BTW...the bendix has no diaphram according to
> > book) .
> >
> > I am suspecting that the reserve fuel tap has gone bad and is not letting
> > fuel enter the pump itself ...the reason I say this is because I removed
> > the cut off plug at the pump and nothing was coming from the tank ...not a
> > drop at first ...untill I played with the reserve tap...then it only gave
> > me a trickle. I also tried blowing air through the fuel return line and it
> > was a hard push ...is this normal ? shouldn't I be able to freely blow air
> > back to the tank ? Has anyone here had problems with thereserve tap ??
> > Has anyone tried removing the tap and using a bypass ? Is there any chance
> > that the tank itself has plugged up and caused this ?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks...
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Dennis Brooks
> >
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From Andrew_Holland at amp.com.au  Sun Jun 27 20:16:02 2010
From: Andrew_Holland at amp.com.au (Andrew_Holland at amp.com.au)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:16:02 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
References: <BAY145-w4395BC27B168BFA35B8E2795CA0@phx.gbl>,
<9B13E08DD14B44E89A5E570DDBC64DA2@Vista>,
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From slatskars at comcast.net  Mon Jun 28 00:28:59 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:28:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
Message-ID: <46432292.8592051277702939715.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Dennis,

Is that a closed system, an unvented cap? Did you have the cap off when you were blowing?

Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Brooks" <renovations.plus at hotmail.com>
To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 4:47:12 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)

?

?Well it does seem to be a fuel problem that I have. I can only get a trickle from the fuel pump. (BTW...the bendix has no diaphram according to book) .

?I am suspecting that the reserve fuel tap has gone bad and is not letting fuel enter the pump itself ...the reason I say this is because I removed the cut off plug at the pump and nothing was coming from the tank ...not a drop at first ...untill I played with the reserve tap...then it only gave me a trickle. I also tried blowing air through the fuel return line and it was a hard push ...is this normal ? shouldn't I be able to freely blow air back to the tank ? ?Has anyone here had problems with thereserve tap ?? Has anyone tried removing the tap and using a bypass ? Is there any chance that the tank itself has plugged up and caused this ?

?

?Thanks...

?

?Regards ?

?Dennis Brooks
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From jaguru at bellsouth.net  Mon Jun 28 00:46:44 2010
From: jaguru at bellsouth.net (James Dean)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 01:46:44 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Sterling Hubcaps ?
References: <BAY145-w4395BC27B168BFA35B8E2795CA0@phx.gbl>
<9B13E08DD14B44E89A5E570DDBC64DA2@Vista>
Message-ID: <D28F440BF63246FEBEA96AF66823D790@JamesDeanPC1>

Someone just asked me for Sterling hubcaps. I have wheels , but not hubcaps.
Does any one have some? Thank you, James
Dean.....................................
----- Original Message -----
From: "Netspace" <vmitps at netspace.net.au>
To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)

> Make sure the tap is in the Main or Reserve position.
> They can get stuck halfway.
> They move through 90 degrees.
>
> PVS
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dennis Brooks" <renovations.plus at hotmail.com>
> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:47 AM
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Well it does seem to be a fuel problem that I have. I can only get a
>> trickle from the fuel pump. (BTW...the bendix has no diaphram according
>> to book) .
>>
>> I am suspecting that the reserve fuel tap has gone bad and is not letting
>> fuel enter the pump itself ...the reason I say this is because I removed
>> the cut off plug at the pump and nothing was coming from the tank ...not
>> a drop at first ...untill I played with the reserve tap...then it only
>> gave me a trickle. I also tried blowing air through the fuel return line
>> and it was a hard push ...is this normal ? shouldn't I be able to freely
>> blow air back to the tank ?  Has anyone here had problems with thereserve
>> tap ?? Has anyone tried removing the tap and using a bypass ? Is there
>> any chance that the tank itself has plugged up and caused this ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks...
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Dennis Brooks
>>
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From wb007727 at bigpond.net.au  Mon Jun 28 18:25:10 2010
From: wb007727 at bigpond.net.au (Terry Broadbent)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:25:10 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] rover SD1 upgrade
References: <B5F826318492448D93BB79EC5720520D@terrylewak5voh>
Message-ID: <C51BF39E60E1428F9290F6A04E456476@terrylewak5voh>

just want to thanks for all the advice that i have been giving concerning my
upgrade, will let you all know how it goes.

Terry B

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Thornton" <R.Thornton at adelaidecitycouncil.com>
To: "'The original Rovernet ...'" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] rover SD1 upgrade

> 1. Supra 5 speed steel case (W55 or 57 I think) with Dellow adaptor kit -
> stronger than a T5 or R380;
>
> 2. Quaiffe SD1 LSD (ideally with uprated shafts if you can find any)
> although I have heard of V8 Ford Falcon, V8 Holden Commodore and even
> Nissan Pintara rear ends being adapted. I recall BL even tried a Jag set
> up on one of their (Paris to Peking) rally cars in the early '80s.
>
> Cheers
> Rob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On Behalf Of Terry Broadbent
> Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2010 10:38 AM
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet ] rover SD1 upgrade
>
> Hello all
>
> just need a little bit of advice from fellow rover enthusiast's i am
> looking at taking the current 4.6 V8 that drives my lovely beast and
> making it a 5.2 V8, i have been told that the standard transmission and
> rear diffirential is unable to cope with the extra power that the 5.2 will
> be putting out.
>
> so here are  my question's
>
> 1. what transmission would you recomend putting in to replace the standard
> 5 speed?
>
> 2. what rear diff. should i also look at putting  in?
>
>
> Thanks you all in advance for the advice that you will give.
>
> Terry B
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From renovations.plus at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 28 05:14:41 2010
From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com (Dennis Brooks)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 08:14:41 -0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
References: <BAY145-w4395BC27B168BFA35B8E2795CA0@phx.gbl>,
<46432292.8592051277702939715.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w500F35412B5598DEB60F0895CA0@phx.gbl>

Yes Slats..the cap was off when I blew into the spill return line...I could get air through but it was very hard to do...

> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:28:59 +0000
> From: slatskars at comcast.net
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
>
>
>
> Dennis,
>
>
>
> Is that a closed system, an unvented cap? Did you have the cap off when you were blowing?
>
>
>
> Slats
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dennis Brooks" <renovations.plus at hotmail.com>
> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 4:47:12 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
>
>
>
>
>  Well it does seem to be a fuel problem that I have. I can only get a trickle from the fuel pump. (BTW...the bendix has no diaphram according to book) .
>
>  I am suspecting that the reserve fuel tap has gone bad and is not letting fuel enter the pump itself ...the reason I say this is because I removed the cut off plug at the pump and nothing was coming from the tank ...not a drop at first ...untill I played with the reserve tap...then it only gave me a trickle. I also tried blowing air through the fuel return line and it was a hard push ...is this normal ? shouldn't I be able to freely blow air back to the tank ?  Has anyone here had problems with thereserve tap ?? Has anyone tried removing the tap and using a bypass ? Is there any chance that the tank itself has plugged up and caused this ?
>
>
>
>  Thanks...
>
>
>
>  Regards
>
>  Dennis Brooks
>
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From vern at inkspotco.com  Mon Jun 28 10:02:23 2010
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 08:02:23 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
References: <BAY145-w4395BC27B168BFA35B8E2795CA0@phx.gbl>,
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Message-ID: <43D301ED-FFAC-430B-8D93-7F4C15430B16@inkspotco.com>

The return line should have a small orifice somewhere in it to restrict the flow, which would make it hard to blow through.

Yours
Vern

On 2010-06-28, at 3:14 AM, Dennis Brooks wrote:

>
>  Yes Slats..the cap was off when I blew into the spill return line...I could get air through but it was very hard to do...
>
>> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:28:59 +0000
>> From: slatskars at comcast.net
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
>>
>>
>>
>> Dennis,
>>
>>
>>
>> Is that a closed system, an unvented cap? Did you have the cap off when you were blowing?
>>
>>
>>
>> Slats
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dennis Brooks" <renovations.plus at hotmail.com>
>> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 4:47:12 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
>> Subject: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Well it does seem to be a fuel problem that I have. I can only get a trickle from the fuel pump. (BTW...the bendix has no diaphram according to book) .
>>
>> I am suspecting that the reserve fuel tap has gone bad and is not letting fuel enter the pump itself ...the reason I say this is because I removed the cut off plug at the pump and nothing was coming from the tank ...not a drop at first ...untill I played with the reserve tap...then it only gave me a trickle. I also tried blowing air through the fuel return line and it was a hard push ...is this normal ? shouldn't I be able to freely blow air back to the tank ?  Has anyone here had problems with thereserve tap ?? Has anyone tried removing the tap and using a bypass ? Is there any chance that the tank itself has plugged up and caused this ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks...
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Dennis Brooks
>>
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From renovations.plus at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 28 14:21:17 2010
From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com (Dennis Brooks)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 17:21:17 -0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
References: <BAY145-w4395BC27B168BFA35B8E2795CA0@phx.gbl>, ,
<46432292.8592051277702939715.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
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" The return line should have a small orifice somewhere in it to restrict the flow"

Thanks Vern ...I never heard of such a thing...why would that be ? I thought that the purpose of the return line was to provide an exit for all the fuel that could not be consumed by the carbs...the Bendix fuel pump (normally) has a high volume of fuel ...

Regards

Dennis Brooks

> From: vern at inkspotco.com
> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 08:02:23 -0700
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
>
> The return line should have a small orifice somewhere in it to restrict the flow, which would make it hard to blow through.
>
> Yours
> Vern
>
>
> On 2010-06-28, at 3:14 AM, Dennis Brooks wrote:
>
> >
> > Yes Slats..the cap was off when I blew into the spill return line...I could get air through but it was very hard to do...
> >
> >> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:28:59 +0000
> >> From: slatskars at comcast.net
> >> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dennis,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Is that a closed system, an unvented cap? Did you have the cap off when you were blowing?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Slats
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Dennis Brooks" <renovations.plus at hotmail.com>
> >> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> >> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 4:47:12 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> >> Subject: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Well it does seem to be a fuel problem that I have. I can only get a trickle from the fuel pump. (BTW...the bendix has no diaphram according to book) .
> >>
> >> I am suspecting that the reserve fuel tap has gone bad and is not letting fuel enter the pump itself ...the reason I say this is because I removed the cut off plug at the pump and nothing was coming from the tank ...not a drop at first ...untill I played with the reserve tap...then it only gave me a trickle. I also tried blowing air through the fuel return line and it was a hard push ...is this normal ? shouldn't I be able to freely blow air back to the tank ? Has anyone here had problems with thereserve tap ?? Has anyone tried removing the tap and using a bypass ? Is there any chance that the tank itself has plugged up and caused this ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Dennis Brooks
> >>
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From nathanobuch at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 28 17:31:30 2010
From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com (Nathan Obuch)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:31:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
Message-ID: <830280.94330.qm@web110309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

If there was no restriction in the return line, there would be essentially no fuel pressure at the carbs...you need at least a little fuel pressure to make it past the needle and seat.

Nathan
--- On Mon, 6/28/10, Dennis Brooks <renovations.plus at hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Dennis Brooks <renovations.plus at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 2:21 PM
>
>
> " The return line should have a small orifice somewhere in
> it to restrict the flow"
>
>  Thanks Vern ...I never heard of such a thing...why would
> that be ? I thought that the purpose of the return line was
> to provide an exit for all the fuel that could not be
> consumed by the carbs...the Bendix fuel pump (normally) has
> a high volume of fuel ...
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>  Dennis Brooks
>
>
>
>
> > From: vern at inkspotco.com
> > Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 08:02:23 -0700
> > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
> >
> > The return line should have a small orifice somewhere
> in it to restrict the flow, which would make it hard to blow
> through.
> >
> > Yours
> > Vern
> >
> >
> > On 2010-06-28, at 3:14 AM, Dennis Brooks wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Yes Slats..the cap was off when I blew into the
> spill return line...I could get air through but it was very
> hard to do...
> > >
> > >> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:28:59 +0000
> > >> From: slatskars at comcast.net
> > >> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel
> (P6B)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Dennis,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Is that a closed system, an unvented cap? Did
> you have the cap off when you were blowing?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Slats
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Dennis Brooks" <renovations.plus at hotmail.com>
>
> > >> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>
> > >> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 4:47:12 PM GMT
> > >> Subject: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Well it does seem to be a fuel problem that I
> have. I can only get a trickle from the fuel pump.
> (BTW...the bendix has no diaphram according to book) .
> > >>
> > >> I am suspecting that the reserve fuel tap has
> gone bad and is not letting fuel enter the pump itself
> ...the reason I say this is because I removed the cut off
> plug at the pump and nothing was coming from the tank ...not
> a drop at first ...untill I played with the reserve
> tap...then it only gave me a trickle. I also tried blowing
> air through the fuel return line and it was a hard push
> ...is this normal ? shouldn't I be able to freely blow air
> back to the tank ? Has anyone here had problems with
> thereserve tap ?? Has anyone tried removing the tap and
> using a bypass ? Is there any chance that the tank itself
> has plugged up and caused this ?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Thanks...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >>
> > >> Dennis Brooks
> > >>
> > >>
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From peter at king-co.com  Mon Jun 28 18:42:24 2010
From: peter at king-co.com (peter king)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 19:42:24 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] RA 10 - a few pictures
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Hi all,

I've posted some more pics from RoveAmerica at this link:

http://www.king-co.com/RoveAmerica2010/

Peter

On Jun 25, 2010, at 9:12 PM, Eric Russell wrote:

>
> Bill,..... Bill,.........Bill,........ you are too kind.....
>
> Not official......
>
> I turned over a USB drive of pictures at the awards section that Dirk asked me to take.
>
> I would like to gather together links to pictures we ALL took and set up another page on the RCCC site like I did last year.  People can become fully immersed and enjoy a variety of points of view.
>
> Sharing. Helping. Facilitating...... that's what Rover folk are about!
>
>
> Eric
>
> "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
> "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
>
>
>
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> From: Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org>
> To: ROVERNET <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Fri, June 25, 2010 1:45:45 PM
> Subject: [Rovernet ] RA 10 - a few pictures
>
> To whet your appetite for the "official" photos that Eric Russell so kindly took of RoveAmerica 10, I have posted a few that I took to:
>
> http://www.roverclub.org/ra10
>
> There are 10 photos of some of the Rovers at Dirk's works in Fitchburg, and 9 of the Rovers at Fanueil Hall, in Boston.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -- Bill D.
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From renovations.plus at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 28 18:43:57 2010
From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com (Dennis Brooks)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 21:43:57 -0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
References: <BAY145-w39F672BBAA715CEA2CBAEB95CA0@phx.gbl>,
<830280.94330.qm@web110309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w629738CF3273ABBC4D9B2195CB0@phx.gbl>

"there would be essentially no fuel pressure at the carbs...you need at least a little fuel pressure to make it past the needle and seat."

Ok... I had understood that the vaccum from the engine determined the volume of fuel that entered the carbs ..the restriction certainly would create pressure in the system but if that's true (and I do trust it is) would I not be wise to locate that point of restriction to ensure it is still at the specific opening size as intended ?? otherwise it may actually be smaller and thus it would be creating too much pressure in the fuel system .

Do you...or someone know where this restriction may be located ?? I have searched my parts and workshop manuals and so far I can;t seem to find anything that would be a restriction.

Thanks Nathan :)

Regards

Dennis Brooks

> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:31:30 -0700
> From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
>
> If there was no restriction in the return line, there would be essentially no fuel pressure at the carbs...you need at least a little fuel pressure to make it past the needle and seat.
>
> Nathan
> --- On Mon, 6/28/10, Dennis Brooks <renovations.plus at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Dennis Brooks <renovations.plus at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
> > To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> > Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 2:21 PM
> >
> >
> > " The return line should have a small orifice somewhere in
> > it to restrict the flow"
> >
> > Thanks Vern ...I never heard of such a thing...why would
> > that be ? I thought that the purpose of the return line was
> > to provide an exit for all the fuel that could not be
> > consumed by the carbs...the Bendix fuel pump (normally) has
> > a high volume of fuel ...
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> >
> > Dennis Brooks
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: vern at inkspotco.com
> > > Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 08:02:23 -0700
> > > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
> > >
> > > The return line should have a small orifice somewhere
> > in it to restrict the flow, which would make it hard to blow
> > through.
> > >
> > > Yours
> > > Vern
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2010-06-28, at 3:14 AM, Dennis Brooks wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes Slats..the cap was off when I blew into the
> > spill return line...I could get air through but it was very
> > hard to do...
> > > >
> > > >> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:28:59 +0000
> > > >> From: slatskars at comcast.net
> > > >> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > > >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel
> > (P6B)
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Dennis,
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Is that a closed system, an unvented cap? Did
> > you have the cap off when you were blowing?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Slats
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: "Dennis Brooks" <renovations.plus at hotmail.com>
> >
> > > >> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> >
> > > >> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 4:47:12 PM GMT
> > > >> Subject: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Well it does seem to be a fuel problem that I
> > have. I can only get a trickle from the fuel pump.
> > (BTW...the bendix has no diaphram according to book) .
> > > >>
> > > >> I am suspecting that the reserve fuel tap has
> > gone bad and is not letting fuel enter the pump itself
> > ...the reason I say this is because I removed the cut off
> > plug at the pump and nothing was coming from the tank ...not
> > a drop at first ...untill I played with the reserve
> > tap...then it only gave me a trickle. I also tried blowing
> > air through the fuel return line and it was a hard push
> > ...is this normal ? shouldn't I be able to freely blow air
> > back to the tank ? Has anyone here had problems with
> > thereserve tap ?? Has anyone tried removing the tap and
> > using a bypass ? Is there any chance that the tank itself
> > has plugged up and caused this ?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks...
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 28 19:38:51 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 17:38:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] RA 10 - a few pictures
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Grand pictures, Peter. I'll link those when I get home.

Eric

"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975

----- Original Message ----
From: peter king <peter at king-co.com>
To: The original Rovernet ... <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Mon, June 28, 2010 7:42:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] RA 10 - a few pictures

Hi all,

I've posted some more pics from RoveAmerica at this link:

http://www.king-co.com/RoveAmerica2010/

Peter

On Jun 25, 2010, at 9:12 PM, Eric Russell wrote:

>
> Bill,..... Bill,.........Bill,........ you are too kind.....
>
> Not official......
>
> I turned over a USB drive of pictures at the awards section that Dirk asked me to take.
>
> I would like to gather together links to pictures we ALL took and set up another page on the RCCC site like I did last year.  People can become fully immersed and enjoy a variety of points of view.
>
> Sharing. Helping. Facilitating...... that's what Rover folk are about!
>
>
> Eric
>
> "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
> "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org>
> To: ROVERNET <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Fri, June 25, 2010 1:45:45 PM
> Subject: [Rovernet ] RA 10 - a few pictures
>
> To whet your appetite for the "official" photos that Eric Russell so kindly took of RoveAmerica 10, I have posted a few that I took to:
>
> http://www.roverclub.org/ra10
>
> There are 10 photos of some of the Rovers at Dirk's works in Fitchburg, and 9 of the Rovers at Fanueil Hall, in Boston.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -- Bill D.
>
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From vern at inkspotco.com  Mon Jun 28 20:20:59 2010
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 18:20:59 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
References: <BAY145-w4395BC27B168BFA35B8E2795CA0@phx.gbl>, ,
<46432292.8592051277702939715.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
<BAY145-w500F35412B5598DEB60F0895CA0@phx.gbl>,
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Actually, the return line was added to prevent vapour lock. But if the return line was not restricted, the pump would just circulate the contents of the tank and slowly heat the entire tankful, which would defeat the purpose.

Yours
Vern

On 2010-06-28, at 12:21 PM, Dennis Brooks wrote:

>
>
> " The return line should have a small orifice somewhere in it to restrict the flow"
>
> Thanks Vern ...I never heard of such a thing...why would that be ? I thought that the purpose of the return line was to provide an exit for all the fuel that could not be consumed by the carbs...the Bendix fuel pump (normally) has a high volume of fuel ...
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Dennis Brooks
>
>
>
>
>> From: vern at inkspotco.com
>> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 08:02:23 -0700
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
>>
>> The return line should have a small orifice somewhere in it to restrict the flow, which would make it hard to blow through.
>>
>> Yours
>> Vern
>>
>>
>> On 2010-06-28, at 3:14 AM, Dennis Brooks wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yes Slats..the cap was off when I blew into the spill return line...I could get air through but it was very hard to do...
>>>
>>>> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:28:59 +0000
>>>> From: slatskars at comcast.net
>>>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dennis,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is that a closed system, an unvented cap? Did you have the cap off when you were blowing?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Slats
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Dennis Brooks" <renovations.plus at hotmail.com>
>>>> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 4:47:12 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
>>>> Subject: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well it does seem to be a fuel problem that I have. I can only get a trickle from the fuel pump. (BTW...the bendix has no diaphram according to book) .
>>>>
>>>> I am suspecting that the reserve fuel tap has gone bad and is not letting fuel enter the pump itself ...the reason I say this is because I removed the cut off plug at the pump and nothing was coming from the tank ...not a drop at first ...untill I played with the reserve tap...then it only gave me a trickle. I also tried blowing air through the fuel return line and it was a hard push ...is this normal ? shouldn't I be able to freely blow air back to the tank ? Has anyone here had problems with thereserve tap ?? Has anyone tried removing the tap and using a bypass ? Is there any chance that the tank itself has plugged up and caused this ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Dennis Brooks
>>>>
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From vern at inkspotco.com  Mon Jun 28 20:22:08 2010
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 18:22:08 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
References: <BAY145-w39F672BBAA715CEA2CBAEB95CA0@phx.gbl>,
<830280.94330.qm@web110309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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On the four cylinder cars, the orifice is in the fitting that is attached to the heater box.

Yours
Vern

On 2010-06-28, at 4:43 PM, Dennis Brooks wrote:

>
>
> "there would be essentially no fuel pressure at the carbs...you need at least a little fuel pressure to make it past the needle and seat."
>
>
>
> Ok... I had understood that the vaccum from the engine determined the volume of fuel that entered the carbs ..the restriction certainly would create pressure in the system but if that's true (and I do trust it is) would I not be wise to locate that point of restriction to ensure it is still at the specific opening size as intended ?? otherwise it may actually be smaller and thus it would be creating too much pressure in the fuel system .
>
> Do you...or someone know where this restriction may be located ?? I have searched my parts and workshop manuals and so far I can;t seem to find anything that would be a restriction.
>
>
>
> Thanks Nathan :)
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Dennis Brooks
>
>> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:31:30 -0700
>> From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
>>
>> If there was no restriction in the return line, there would be essentially no fuel pressure at the carbs...you need at least a little fuel pressure to make it past the needle and seat.
>>
>> Nathan
>> --- On Mon, 6/28/10, Dennis Brooks <renovations.plus at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Dennis Brooks <renovations.plus at hotmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
>>> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>>> Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 2:21 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> " The return line should have a small orifice somewhere in
>>> it to restrict the flow"
>>>
>>> Thanks Vern ...I never heard of such a thing...why would
>>> that be ? I thought that the purpose of the return line was
>>> to provide an exit for all the fuel that could not be
>>> consumed by the carbs...the Bendix fuel pump (normally) has
>>> a high volume of fuel ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dennis Brooks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: vern at inkspotco.com
>>>> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 08:02:23 -0700
>>>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
>>>>
>>>> The return line should have a small orifice somewhere
>>> in it to restrict the flow, which would make it hard to blow
>>> through.
>>>>
>>>> Yours
>>>> Vern
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2010-06-28, at 3:14 AM, Dennis Brooks wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes Slats..the cap was off when I blew into the
>>> spill return line...I could get air through but it was very
>>> hard to do...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:28:59 +0000
>>>>>> From: slatskars at comcast.net
>>>>>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel
>>> (P6B)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dennis,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is that a closed system, an unvented cap? Did
>>> you have the cap off when you were blowing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Slats
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Dennis Brooks" <renovations.plus at hotmail.com>
>>>
>>>>>> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>>>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 4:47:12 PM GMT
>>>>>> Subject: [Rovernet ] Problem with fuel (P6B)
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well it does seem to be a fuel problem that I
>>> have. I can only get a trickle from the fuel pump.
>>> (BTW...the bendix has no diaphram according to book) .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am suspecting that the reserve fuel tap has
>>> gone bad and is not letting fuel enter the pump itself
>>> ...the reason I say this is because I removed the cut off
>>> plug at the pump and nothing was coming from the tank ...not
>>> a drop at first ...untill I played with the reserve
>>> tap...then it only gave me a trickle. I also tried blowing
>>> air through the fuel return line and it was a hard push
>>> ...is this normal ? shouldn't I be able to freely blow air
>>> back to the tank ? Has anyone here had problems with
>>> thereserve tap ?? Has anyone tried removing the tap and
>>> using a bypass ? Is there any chance that the tank itself
>>> has plugged up and caused this ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dennis Brooks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>>
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From rababiuk at telusplanet.net  Mon Jun 28 21:33:16 2010
From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net (Roy Babiuk)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 20:33:16 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] loose ignition switch
Message-ID: <ACA313C8-53C6-4BC3-8C94-A29FA2389BBC@telusplanet.net>

My ignition barrel and switch turn with the key and in doing so, I
loose my wipers and heater motor until the barrel is rotated back again.
I think I am due for either a short or an appearance of the Lucas
patented smoke.
I have tightened the outer lock ring and still have play sideways and
in and out.
I then rotated the inner lock ring, the one behind the dash and close
to the switch, forward toward the dash to see if that would tighten
things up and the barrel still turns with the key.
Am I missing a washer or lock ring somewhere?
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From vern at inkspotco.com  Tue Jun 29 01:05:05 2010
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:05:05 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] loose ignition switch
References: <ACA313C8-53C6-4BC3-8C94-A29FA2389BBC@telusplanet.net>
Message-ID: <A6A611A7-5292-4488-905B-A481B5B7E4F2@inkspotco.com>

If it's a P6, the problem is the switch is locked by a flat in the switch panel sheet metal, sadly the thinness of which wears away the flat on the aluminum body of the switch, which is where you have arrived.

Repair is difficult, short of replacing the switch.

Yours
Vern

On 2010-06-28, at 7:33 PM, Roy Babiuk wrote:

> My ignition barrel and switch turn with the key and in doing so, I loose my wipers and heater motor until the barrel is rotated back again.
> I think I am due for either a short or an appearance of the Lucas patented smoke.
> I have tightened the outer lock ring and still have play sideways and in and out.
> I then rotated the inner lock ring, the one behind the dash and close to the switch, forward toward the dash to see if that would tighten things up and the barrel still turns with the key.
> Am I missing a washer or lock ring somewhere?
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From magnet at roverclub.org  Tue Jun 29 06:39:24 2010
From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 07:39:24 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] RA 10 - a few pictures
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Great pictures, Peter!

Thanks!

-- Bill

==========================================================

peter king wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've posted some more pics from RoveAmerica at this link:
>
> http://www.king-co.com/RoveAmerica2010/
>
>
> Peter
>

From dcduk at tiscali.co.uk  Tue Jun 29 07:00:46 2010
From: dcduk at tiscali.co.uk (rich jones)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 13:00:46 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet ] Wanted! 3500S
<4C0B8656.3050202@att.net>
Message-ID: <4AB0A4EB82E54379962A48E312460FB9@richc2upoimqhi>

Hi Kent, wondered whether you have had any success with the 3500S that we
mentioned some time ago?
Thanks
Rich
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at att.net>
To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Wanted! 3500S

> Hi Rich,
> Yes. I have been at annual conference all week in Corpus Christi and
> have not yet had a chance to sit down and do a detailed description. It
> being Sunday morning here, I will try to get back to you late this
> evening. I want to send a few pictures of the problem areas, but will
> have to make a trip out to the shop to take them. I would be driving
> this car if it were not for the bad rear main seal which is leaking
> really badly. The base unit has never had a speck of rust. The wings all
> need some work. Car is tobacco leaf with buckskin. More later.
> Roverly,
> Kent K.
>
> rich jones wrote:
>> Hi Kent, I wonder if you could send me some details in reference to
>> Kind regards
>> Rich
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at att.net>
>> To: "The original Rovernet ..." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 12:22 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Wanted! 3500S
>>
>>
>>> Hi Rich,
>>> I have one that I would sell.
>>>
>>> Roverly,
>>> Kent Kinard
>>> San Antonio, Texas USA
>>>
>>> rich jones wrote:
>>>> Hi all, I may have emailed a couple of you guys individually in the
>>>> past to help me locate a rover 3500S NADA, unfortunately no joy,
>>>> hence a more global approach through Rovernet.
>>>> I am UK based collector of P6B's now seeking good honest 3500S's
>>>> with original engines and transmissions. Structurely sound,
>>>> paintwork not a issue as long it has the same colour scheme for
>>>> which it was intended. Anything from a derelict salvageable car
>>>> exhausted every avenue.
>>>> kind regards
>>>> Rich Jones
>>>> dcduk at tiscali.co.uk
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From kkinard at att.net  Tue Jun 29 07:36:15 2010
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 07:36:15 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Wanted! 3500S
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rich jones wrote:
> Hi Kent, wondered whether you have had any success with the 3500S that
> we mentioned some time ago?
> Thanks
> Rich
>
Rich, I have not been out to the shop yet. I told you I would get back
to you when I did. I am not in the Rover car business. I am a pastor who
does Rovers on the side. Unless something else comes up, I will be at
the shop on Thursday...but then again, we are supposed to have a
hurricane and flash floods Thursday and Friday...

Do not send me any more emails until I have contacted you.

Roverly,
Kent K.