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From lingfield51 at btopenworld.com Fri Jan 1 04:40:52 2010 From: lingfield51 at btopenworld.com (Partviking) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 09:40:52 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fees DOWN in 2010 In-Reply-To: <661805.87039.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <661805.87039.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <15071.21761.qm@web86005.mail.ird.yahoo.com> What a refreshing story Eric and nice to hear a succes story relating to Rover Clubs rather than the sad (IMHO) news regarding the P6ROC. Alan Francis (partviking) ________________________________ From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> To: INTERNATIONAL Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Friday, 1 January, 2010 0:21:50 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fees DOWN in 2010 I just received my copy of the Rover Car Club of Canada magazine (another excellent job, Vern!). In the Fall meeting in October, the Treasurer, Peter Heaster, noted that the RCCC was in a good position financially and he recommended a *decrease* in the RCCC membership dues for 2010. Since that doesn't usually happen in current economic times, I thought I would report it! it's NEWS and it's GOOD NEWS! We have increased Parts sales (Peter is also Parts Manager) thanks to Ruth (All British Cars) and her business and referrals. So,........ good fiscal management, positive networking, a reasonable market (for Rover car parts), and the RCCC is in good shape. If you'd like to join, check out our website: <www.roverclub.ca>. Other Clubs: feel free to plug your Club. It's Christmas and New Year, after all :-) Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. 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Found only one small coin-sized rust hole in the C pillar just underneath the quarter panel. This had developed due to a build-up of leaf matter. Treated this and a few other tiny small patches with rust converter then painted the part of the base unit that is covered by the wing with rustproof. Removed the battery box- rust has gotten under the vinyl covering so all of the plastic will have to be burned or scraped off before thorough anti-rust treatment. Suggestions for this part of the exercise would be welcomed. Tomorrow the wing will be reinstalled to be good for another 33? Years. I don't expect to need the car to last more than another 20 years by which time I'll be 78! Wishing all members a wonderful New Year. Kind regards, Peter Mitchell E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.14030 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Found only one small coin-sized rust hole in the C pillar just underneath the quarter panel. This had developed due to a build-up of leaf matter. Treated this and a few other tiny small patches with rust converter then painted the part of the base unit that is covered by the wing with rustproof. Removed the battery box- rust has gotten under the vinyl covering so all of the plastic will have to be burned or scraped off before thorough anti-rust treatment. Suggestions for this part of the exercise would be welcomed. Tomorrow the wing will be reinstalled to be good for another 33? Years. I don't expect to need the car to last more than another 20 years by which time I'll be 78! Wishing all members a wonderful New Year. 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Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P6B: New Year's Day progressreport-Perth Western Australia Is that 78 or 78b ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Mitchell To: 'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.' Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 10:59 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P6B: New Year's Day progress report-Perth Western Australia Hello Rovernetters, It being a glorious day of 28 degrees C, I spent the day in my garage. I removed the driver's side rear wing and swept, then hosed out, the dust accumulation of 33 years. Found only one small coin-sized rust hole in the C pillar just underneath the quarter panel. This had developed due to a build-up of leaf matter. Treated this and a few other tiny small patches with rust converter then painted the part of the base unit that is covered by the wing with rustproof. Removed the battery box- rust has gotten under the vinyl covering so all of the plastic will have to be burned or scraped off before thorough anti-rust treatment. Suggestions for this part of the exercise would be welcomed. Tomorrow the wing will be reinstalled to be good for another 33? Years. I don't expect to need the car to last more than another 20 years by which time I'll be 78! Wishing all members a wonderful New Year. 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Yours Vern On 2010-01-01, at 9:25 AM, Roy Babiuk wrote: > Eric, Vern, do you know when the magazine will be available on-line for those of us who chose this option? > > Roy > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From rababiuk at telusplanet.net Fri Jan 1 14:15:25 2010 From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net (Roy Babiuk) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 12:15:25 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover club magazine online Message-ID: <0A37089F-0753-462F-99BA-DA9774DF5375@telusplanet.net> Thanks Vern! Nice job again! Roy From peterhut at activ8.net.au Fri Jan 1 17:51:11 2010 From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier) Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 09:51:11 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P6B: New Year's Day progress report- Perth Western Australia In-Reply-To: <001f01ca8ad9$dbfe68a0$93fb39e0$@net.au> References: <001f01ca8ad9$dbfe68a0$93fb39e0$@net.au> Message-ID: <0susj5du9ha182bgm1aopckli3et3inh7t@4ax.com> On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 19:59:23 +0800, you wrote: >Hello Rovernetters, > > > >It being a glorious day of 28 degrees C, I spent the day in my garage. I >removed the driver's side rear wing and swept, then hosed out, the dust It was 34 deg C here in Little Swanport Tasmania, bit cooler today but still pretty humid. No Rovering I am afraid, only rounding up the sheep for sheering. But this afternoon will take the MGZT Tourer out for a run to the local wineries. Tomorrow, out on the barge to get some oysters and crayfish. What a life!! Happy 2010 to all our Roverites. Cheers, Peter H From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Fri Jan 1 17:34:40 2010 From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 22:34:40 +0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Virus Message-ID: <BAY119-W166955F7FE38C3BF592782DE770@phx.gbl> Hello all.......... I got these FOTOS sent to me from my wife's work and of course i bypassed my mailwasher program and infected myself.....somehow the virus infects my mail programs and sent one to all in my address book.......I have removed the Trogan virus from my computer and sincerely apologize to anyone who received these Foto Emails ...........I guess my or anyone elses 1st clue should have been the spelling of FOTOS but i foolishly thought they were pictures from her Xmas party Again i'm sorry for any inconvenience Bill Robertson _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691817 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100101/7da6541c/attachment.html> From p6rovers at yahoo.com Fri Jan 1 19:32:31 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 16:32:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P6B: New Year's Day progress report- Perth Western Australia In-Reply-To: <0susj5du9ha182bgm1aopckli3et3inh7t@4ax.com> References: <001f01ca8ad9$dbfe68a0$93fb39e0$@net.au> <0susj5du9ha182bgm1aopckli3et3inh7t@4ax.com> Message-ID: <810079.52294.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yeah, don't work too hard......:-) Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ----- Original Message ---- From: Peter Huttemeier <peterhut at activ8.net.au> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Fri, January 1, 2010 2:51:11 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P6B: New Year's Day progress report- Perth Western Australia On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 19:59:23 +0800, you wrote: >Hello Rovernetters, > > > >It being a glorious day of 28 degrees C, I spent the day in my garage. I >removed the driver's side rear wing and swept, then hosed out, the dust It was 34 deg C here in Little Swanport Tasmania, bit cooler today but still pretty humid. No Rovering I am afraid, only rounding up the sheep for sheering. But this afternoon will take the MGZT Tourer out for a run to the local wineries. Tomorrow, out on the barge to get some oysters and crayfish. What a life!! Happy 2010 to all our Roverites. Cheers, Peter H _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Fri Jan 1 19:36:34 2010 From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 00:36:34 +0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Virus FOTOS Message-ID: <BAY119-W381B47FB290DDE3CDADD58DE760@phx.gbl> Hello all.......... I got these FOTOS sent to me from my wife's work and of course i bypassed my mailwasher program and infected myself.....somehow the virus infects my mail programs and sent one to all in my address book.......I have removed the Trogan virus from my computer and sincerely apologize to anyone who received these Foto Emails ...........I guess my or anyone elses 1st clue should have been the spelling of FOTOS but i foolishly thought they were pictures from her Xmas party Again i'm sorry for any inconvenience Bill Robertson _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691817 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100102/6b013601/attachment.html> From markcoorparoo at aol.com Sat Jan 2 09:26:57 2010 From: markcoorparoo at aol.com (markcoorparoo at aol.com) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 09:26:57 EST Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Blueing of old rover Tools Message-ID: <d12.6b8580f0.3870b1b1@aol.com> Hi Den and All, Might have to have another look at CLR. Is there Phosphoric Acid in it? I used to run a detergent through my steam cleaner years ago that had phosphoric acid in it and bare metal stayed bright for months without any other coating. My Dad did Industrial Chemistry and told me about the Iron Phosphate coating thing. Outfit that was my first job from school tried the Gun Bluing kits but they just didn't go far. Maybe good enough for the parts of one small firearm or one special tool but that was it. Also to do the job properly you have got to bring in some temperature. The guys in the team proper had a near disaster when chrome plating caused the failure of some TIG welds. The chrome changes the qualities of a part. With a tubular part you are effectively putting another tube around the outside that has different characteristics that helps to concentrate the loads at the welds. All the Chrome plated parts were remade and given a Gun Blue and oiled type finish. It's lighter too. A Kiwi guy Gary, took charge of the project and set up three "baths", 44's cut in half with gas burners under them. I gather the first was a Strong Caustic solution, the second a "Neutraliser" and the third was the magic stuff. The parts came out more black than blue. I gathered that Gary had done this stuff when working in Europe. Having read a little of the link that Eric provided, the procedure really looks like the Parkerising Phosphating process. The temperature probably also helped drive off entrapped hydrogen in the welds. The little plant seems now to be a smaller version of the one that was set up at Bankstown Airport to do the bits for the Mosquitoes that were built there during the war. The above may be a bit envolved but after giving old parts or tools a blast with the Ballotini media could provide a long lasting even paintable finish. I wonder if a very small plant could be made that sits on top of an old gas BBQ? Hope this helps or gives a few ideas. Regards, MWJ. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100102/df37e759/attachment.html> From david.bass4 at ntlworld.com Sat Jan 2 12:08:28 2010 From: david.bass4 at ntlworld.com (David Bass) Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:08:28 +0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Blueing of old rover Tools In-Reply-To: <d12.6b8580f0.3870b1b1@aol.com> References: <d12.6b8580f0.3870b1b1@aol.com> Message-ID: <4B3F7D8C.6090601@ntlworld.com> The general principle is "passivating", I think. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passivation See the section on ferrous metals, which covers parkerization and bluing. Phosphoric acid is used to do this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphate_conversion You can buy rust inhibitors that are basically phosphoric acid to deal with stone chip rust spots - as noted, the result needs to be sealed the be effective. These are available in fairly large sizes. My father, back in the day, had several of his workshop tools cadmium plated - definitely not allowed now, but cadmium was by far the best thing when you needed hard wearing and corrosion resistant together. On the other hand, all of this is no substitute for a dry workshop - it's best to avoid dunking your tool in puddles for days at a time (fnarr). David markcoorparoo at aol.com wrote: > > > Hi Den and All, > Might have to have another look at CLR. Is > there Phosphoric Acid in it? I used to run a detergent through my > steam cleaner years ago that had phosphoric acid in it and bare metal > stayed bright for months without any other coating. My Dad did > Industrial Chemistry and told me about the Iron Phosphate coating thing. > > Outfit that was my first job from school tried the Gun Bluing kits > but they just didn't go far. Maybe good enough for the parts of one > small firearm or one special tool but that was it. Also to do the job > properly you have got to bring in some temperature. > > The guys in the team proper had a near disaster when chrome plating > caused the failure of some TIG welds. The chrome changes the qualities > of a part. With a tubular part you are effectively putting another > tube around the outside that has different characteristics that helps > to concentrate the loads at the welds. All the Chrome plated parts > were remade and given a Gun Blue and oiled type finish. It's lighter > too. > > A Kiwi guy Gary, took charge of the project and set up three > "baths", 44's cut in half with gas burners under them. I gather the > first was a Strong Caustic solution, the second a "Neutraliser" and > the third was the magic stuff. The parts came out more black than > blue. I gathered that Gary had done this stuff when working in Europe. > Having read a little of the link that Eric provided, the procedure > really looks like the Parkerising Phosphating process. The temperature > probably also helped drive off entrapped hydrogen in the welds. > > The little plant seems now to be a smaller version of the one that > was set up at Bankstown Airport to do the bits for the Mosquitoes that > were built there during the war. > > The above may be a bit envolved but after giving old parts or tools > a blast with the Ballotini media could provide a long lasting even > paintable finish. I wonder if a very small plant could be made that > sits on top of an old gas BBQ? > > Hope this helps or gives a few ideas. > > Regards, > MWJ. From nathanobuch at yahoo.com Sat Jan 2 13:02:11 2010 From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com (Nathan Obuch) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 10:02:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Sleeving calipers Message-ID: <452973.17774.qm@web110316.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Fellow Roverists, I finally have found the time and courage to strip down the rear calipers (Girling type) on my '69 2000 TC. I considered having Apple Hydraulics resleeve them, but I thought I'd check with the Rovernet first to see if there are any other more highly preferred companies which do resleeving. Cheers, Nathan From den at aachenkennels.com Sat Jan 2 18:44:33 2010 From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 08:44:33 +0900 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Blueing of old rover Tools References: <d12.6b8580f0.3870b1b1@aol.com> Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081A91@Server.adoptsec.local> Good Morning MJ, After reading your email I nipped into the workshop and had a look This stuff really is amazing, I have dropped a bit of copper tubing in for a long soak just to see what kind of re-action occurs. So far nothing to note. ( I phrased it that was as it makes me sound like I know what I am doing and I'm ead u macated (smile). As I recall from my days as an apprentice. Those were the days when Tec School was all day Tuesday and half days Thursday which I then had to work Saturday afternoon to make up for. We had two months dedicated to how metal acts with chemicals with only the one Thursday afternoon on Blueing of spanners and such. So not a lot of time spent on the subject which now as I'm into collecting and looking after old tools ( I've got one myself!) I would like to set up on the BBQ the 3 stage method you mention which now the cob webs of a distance past are clearing the old brain neurons are working a bit easier. Would I be right in summing up with one old can with Caustic, the second with a neutralising acid such as say 'vinegar'? alongside a can with Iron Phosphate or what is the 'magic stuff' and your best guess at ratio's. I have just had a long ponder ( happens a lot these days) on the effects of a boiling hot oil bath on bare metal!! Something we used to do with some of the parts on the racing cars and bike chains with grease which is also one of the ways we used to pack grease into roller bearings. Not sure the grease of today would still be as effective though. Are there any rules on cross posting of subjects as on the RoverAustralia at yahoogroups.com.au there is a young chap who is a chemists who I would like to read MJ post?. Den. From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of markcoorparoo at aol.com Sent: Saturday, 2 January 2010 10:27 PM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Blueing of old rover Tools Hi Den and All, Might have to have another look at CLR. Is there Phosphoric Acid in it? I used to run a detergent through my steam cleaner years ago that had phosphoric acid in it and bare metal stayed bright for months without any other coating. My Dad did Industrial Chemistry and told me about the Iron Phosphate coating thing. Outfit that was my first job from school tried the Gun Bluing kits but they just didn't go far. Maybe good enough for the parts of one small firearm or one special tool but that was it. Also to do the job properly you have got to bring in some temperature. The guys in the team proper had a near disaster when chrome plating caused the failure of some TIG welds. The chrome changes the qualities of a part. With a tubular part you are effectively putting another tube around the outside that has different characteristics that helps to concentrate the loads at the welds. All the Chrome plated parts were remade and given a Gun Blue and oiled type finish. It's lighter too. A Kiwi guy Gary, took charge of the project and set up three "baths", 44's cut in half with gas burners under them. I gather the first was a Strong Caustic solution, the second a "Neutraliser" and the third was the magic stuff. The parts came out more black than blue. I gathered that Gary had done this stuff when working in Europe. Having read a little of the link that Eric provided, the procedure really looks like the Parkerising Phosphating process. The temperature probably also helped drive off entrapped hydrogen in the welds. The little plant seems now to be a smaller version of the one that was set up at Bankstown Airport to do the bits for the Mosquitoes that were built there during the war. The above may be a bit envolved but after giving old parts or tools a blast with the Ballotini media could provide a long lasting even paintable finish. I wonder if a very small plant could be made that sits on top of an old gas BBQ? Hope this helps or gives a few ideas. Regards, MWJ. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100103/ed7b61b4/attachment.html> From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat Jan 2 19:09:12 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 16:09:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Blueing of old rover Tools In-Reply-To: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081A91@Server.adoptsec.local> References: <d12.6b8580f0.3870b1b1@aol.com> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081A91@Server.adoptsec.local> Message-ID: <267825.2756.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> We have no rules on cross-posting. Our original idea was to help Rover enthusiasts connect with each other no matter where they live. Information is good. Eric List Administrator The Rovernet "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) Are there any rules on cross posting of subjects as on the RoverAustralia at yahoogroups.com.au there is a young chap who is a chemists who I would like to read MJ post?. Den. __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100102/f8c7c024/attachment.html> From den at aachenkennels.com Sat Jan 2 21:17:15 2010 From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 11:17:15 +0900 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] C.L.R. ( or rust removal ) References: <d12.6b8580f0.3870b1b1@aol.com> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081A91@Server.adoptsec.local> Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081A98@Server.adoptsec.local> So as not to mix up the post thought it best to start another subject, this time CLR or Perhaps Rust removal using chemicals such as phosphoric acid verse's CLR? As said I had a look at the writing on the label. Seems , unlike other countries, they don't have to have the chemicals or contents noted for us lay men to read. What they do have written is, first of all 'Contains No Phosphates' also will remove calcium, lime, and rust instantly from anything made buy Chinese workers in sweat shops who work 26 hours a day for no money and live in shoe boxes at the tip. What you must not use it on is anything cement based or Stone, laminated or painted plus ( and here is a clue as to part of its contents) ALUMINIUM..!! so caustic is in there?. Made by ADVIL Pty Ltd of South Australia. Den. BTW the Copper pipe is clean as you would expect soaked in caustic would be very easy to now put a shine on it. Hi Den and All, Might have to have another look at CLR. Is there Phosphoric Acid in it? I used to run a detergent through my steam cleaner years ago that had phosphoric acid in it and bare metal stayed bright for months without any other coating. My Dad did Industrial Chemistry and told me about the Iron Phosphate coating thing. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100103/af6e9a0f/attachment-0001.html> From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat Jan 2 22:54:42 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 19:54:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was:C.L.R. ( or rust removal ) now rust removal In-Reply-To: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081A98@Server.adoptsec.local> References: <d12.6b8580f0.3870b1b1@aol.com> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081A91@Server.adoptsec.local> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081A98@Server.adoptsec.local> Message-ID: <937775.89686.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Some of us use "Extend" for rust removal. **Firstly it was owned by Permatex. ***Then it was owned by Loctite ****In Australia, Henkel' has a hand Ref: http://tinyurl.com/ygrr2zv Anyway, when brushed onto rust, it turns the area black, like phosphoric acid turns rust from iron oxide into iron disulphide, a variation which does not rust. One benefit over some rust products is that when brushed onto adjoining non-rust areas, it dries nicely. The whole area must be primed with some other metal primer to prevent the surface of Extend from being scratched (that leads back to the rusting process). Some other brands of rust prevention leave a film on the adjoining metal which is not so conducive to painting. Some of us have long term experience of rust prevention using Extend. I used that product in 20 years of Rover restoration. Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ________________________________ From: Dennis Gallacher <den at aachenkennels.com> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Sat, January 2, 2010 6:17:15 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] C.L.R. ( or rust removal ) So as not to mix up the post thought it best to start another subject, this time CLR or Perhaps Rust removal using chemicals such as phosphoric acid verse?s CLR? As said I had a look at the writing on the label. Seems , unlike other countries, they don?t have to have the chemicals or contents noted for us lay men to read. What they do have written is, first of all ?Contains No Phosphates? also will remove calcium, lime, and rust instantly from anything made buy Chinese workers in sweat shops who work 26 hours a day for no money and live in shoe boxes at the tip. What you must not use it on is anything cement based or Stone, laminated or painted plus ( and here is a clue as to part of its contents) ALUMINIUM..!! so caustic is in there?. Made by ADVIL Pty Ltd of South Australia. Den. BTW the Copper pipe is clean as you would expect soaked in caustic would be very easy to now put a shine on it. Hi Den and All, Might have to have another look at CLR. Is there Phosphoric Acid in it? I used to run a detergent through my steam cleaner years ago that had phosphoric acid in it and bare metal stayed bright for months without any other coating. My Dad did Industrial Chemistry and told me about the Iron Phosphate coating thing. __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ From markcoorparoo at aol.com Sat Jan 2 23:19:20 2010 From: markcoorparoo at aol.com (markcoorparoo at aol.com) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 23:19:20 EST Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Blueing Message-ID: <eb8b.469ec9a1.387174c8@aol.com> Hi Eric, Den, David and all, my second attempt at this one. Had a nearby Lightning Strike before but the spike stopper worked and I am back up and running. I think there has now been only one day in the last three weeks when it hasn't rained in Brisbane. Eric is correct, information is good, spread it around. Den, have a look at David Bass' links to Wiki. Having read them I would say the process that Gary set up was Black Oxide. The first bath is largely Sodium Hydroxide but there is some other stuff in there and water. Take note of the mentions of the dangers of the process. The first solution is heated well above 100 c. 212 F. An old BBQ should able to get the temperatures with an adjustable regulator but first we would have to think about where we are going to set the thing up. Then how to secure it when not in use, we wouldn't want any prying little fingers to get in the stuff. I have no idea what was in the second bath. I just got the impression at the time that it was a neutraliser. Having read the Wikis I am wondering if the third bath was some sort of warm oil with some additives, Ensis Fluid perhaps. I remember that not all the baths were really hot and at least one was a lot cooler. Interesting to note that the parts didn't feel oily when finished. Gary was using some proprietary chemicals in the process ( I saw the drums) but I don't remember what, not even what brand ( although Turco comes to mind). This is from memory, over 35 years ago and Gary was doing this right out the back and I worked out the front. I haven't mentioned the Team name or Gary's full name because it was over 35 years ago, I am wondering if I should, due to nettiquette. Must re-read those Wiki's. I noted several MilSpec's, they might give us an idea if the BBQ top is feasible. Something else I noted in the Wikis was a process that gives a finish to minimalise galling of parts during break in. I bought a number of cams from Lynx Engineering ( the same mob who made the "Ilinga" manifold for the P76 - Terrier engine) in Sydney decades ago. They were able to "Parkerise" them and I always had it done. It left a black finish on the lobes but now I am thinking that might be the wrong name for the process. Ivan Tighe here in Brisbane developed a flame hardening process and machine that apparently cured the Holden V8's problem that was similiar to the Rover lobe loss problem. I haven't seen it but was told about it by someone who saw it working. Regards All, MWJ. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100102/96d6089d/attachment.html> From slatskars at comcast.net Sat Jan 2 23:42:01 2010 From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 04:42:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Blueing of old rover Tools In-Reply-To: <267825.2756.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1220587307.6777251262493721227.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Out of curiosity, I checked my last issue of American Rifleman (Yes , I am a life member of NRA) and found one listing for Bluing and or Parkerizing. The web site is www.hotflashrefinishing.com . If that doesn't work for what is being sought. One of my former Navy Pistol teammates was going to retire to the San Diego area and run a gunsmith and bluing business. That is quite a while ago, so I don't know if he followed through and/or is still in business. I looked him up in the white pages and did get a phone number for his home address. If the originator is interested, I could try contacting him by phone. He was a very competent gunsmith and meticulous in his work. Slats -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100103/5ff92408/attachment.html> From markcoorparoo at aol.com Sat Jan 2 23:44:52 2010 From: markcoorparoo at aol.com (markcoorparoo at aol.com) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 23:44:52 EST Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] C.L.R. ( or rust removal ) Message-ID: <ed82.60b0fa35.38717ac4@aol.com> Den, That sounds like the chemical that is used in Hot Tanks. Removes cooling system deposits but no alloy allowed. Will remove lime scale but if it comes in contact with a substance containing lots of Lime such as concrete, the chemical will keep reacting until it is all gone. Must make the time to check this further. I have forgotten so much of what my Dad told me. Can't even remember what CalGon is. (It removes boiler scale). MWJ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100102/ff70f8ae/attachment.html> From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Sun Jan 3 00:38:45 2010 From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 16:08:45 +1030 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] C.L.R. ( or rust removal ) In-Reply-To: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081A98@Server.adoptsec.local> References: <d12.6b8580f0.3870b1b1@aol.com> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081A91@Server.adoptsec.local> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081A98@Server.adoptsec.local> Message-ID: <4B402D65.8060805@ozemail.com.au> Hi all MSDS sheet for CLR is here http://victas.uca.org.au/main.php?pg=download&id=8587 Cheers Dave South Oz Dennis Gallacher wrote: > So as not to mix up the post thought it best to start another subject, > this time CLR or Perhaps Rust removal using chemicals such as phosphoric > acid verse's CLR? > > > > As said I had a look at the writing on the label. Seems , unlike other > countries, they don't have to have the chemicals or contents noted for > us lay men to read. What they do have written is, first of all 'Contains > No Phosphates' also will remove calcium, lime, and rust instantly from > anything made buy Chinese workers in sweat shops who work 26 hours a day > for no money and live in shoe boxes at the tip. > > > > What you must not use it on is anything cement based or Stone, laminated > or painted plus ( and here is a clue as to part of its contents) > ALUMINIUM..!! so caustic is in there?. > > > > Made by ADVIL Pty Ltd of South Australia. > > > > Den. From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sun Jan 3 00:43:56 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 21:43:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] C.L.R. ( or rust removal ) In-Reply-To: <ed82.60b0fa35.38717ac4@aol.com> References: <ed82.60b0fa35.38717ac4@aol.com> Message-ID: <956587.50460.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ``Calgon has a unique formulation with active ingredients being polycarboxylates which softens hard water, preventing limescale from forming in the first place. It is not a descaler, it is purely a preventative - which means that the sooner you introduce Calgon into your daily washing routine, the better!`` (from a UK website) Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ________________________________ From: "markcoorparoo at aol.com" <markcoorparoo at aol.com> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Sat, January 2, 2010 8:44:52 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] C.L.R. ( or rust removal ) Den, That sounds like the chemical that is used in Hot Tanks. Removes cooling system deposits but no alloy allowed. Will remove lime scale but if it comes in contact with a substance containing lots of Lime such as concrete, the chemical will keep reacting until it is all gone. Must make the time to check this further. I have forgotten so much of what my Dad told me. Can't even remember what CalGon is. (It removes boiler scale). MWJ __________________________________________________________________ Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer? 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Sun Jan 3 00:52:12 2010 From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 16:22:12 +1030 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] C.L.R. ( or rust removal ) In-Reply-To: <956587.50460.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <ed82.60b0fa35.38717ac4@aol.com> <956587.50460.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B40308C.8030908@ozemail.com.au> Hi Eric Calgon MSDS here http://www.ofite.com/msds/205-26.pdf Cheers Dave South Oz Eric Russell wrote: > ``Calgon has a unique formulation with active ingredients being > polycarboxylates which softens hard water, preventing limescale from > forming in the first place. It is not a descaler, it is purely a > preventative - which means that the sooner you introduce Calgon into > your daily washing routine, the better!`` > > (from a UK website) > > Eric > ________________________________ > From: "markcoorparoo at aol.com" <markcoorparoo at aol.com> > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Sent: Sat, January 2, 2010 8:44:52 PM > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] C.L.R. ( or rust removal ) > > > Den, > That sounds like the chemical that is used in Hot Tanks. Removes cooling system deposits but no alloy allowed. Will remove lime scale but if it comes in contact with a substance containing lots of Lime such as concrete, the chemical will keep reacting until it is all gone. Must make the time to check this further. I have forgotten so much of what my Dad told me. Can't even remember what CalGon is. (It removes boiler scale). > > MWJ From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sun Jan 3 01:27:25 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 22:27:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] C.L.R. ( or rust removal ) In-Reply-To: <4B40308C.8030908@ozemail.com.au> References: <ed82.60b0fa35.38717ac4@aol.com> <956587.50460.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4B40308C.8030908@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <79541.68253.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cool ! :-) Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ----- Original Message ---- From: David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Sat, January 2, 2010 9:52:12 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] C.L.R. ( or rust removal ) Hi Eric Calgon MSDS here http://www.ofite.com/msds/205-26.pdf Cheers Dave South Oz Eric Russell wrote: > ``Calgon has a unique formulation with active ingredients being > polycarboxylates which softens hard water, preventing limescale from > forming in the first place. It is not a descaler, it is purely a > preventative - which means that the sooner you introduce Calgon into > your daily washing routine, the better!`` > > (from a UK website) > > Eric > ________________________________ > From: "markcoorparoo at aol.com" <markcoorparoo at aol.com> > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Sent: Sat, January 2, 2010 8:44:52 PM > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] C.L.R. ( or rust removal ) > > > Den, > That sounds like the chemical that is used in Hot Tanks. Removes cooling system deposits but no alloy allowed. Will remove lime scale but if it comes in contact with a substance containing lots of Lime such as concrete, the chemical will keep reacting until it is all gone. Must make the time to check this further. I have forgotten so much of what my Dad told me. Can't even remember what CalGon is. (It removes boiler scale). > > MWJ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. From den at aachenkennels.com Sun Jan 3 04:05:40 2010 From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 18:05:40 +0900 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Blueing of old rover Tools References: <1220587307.6777251262493721227.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081A9B@Server.adoptsec.local> Thanks for the time spent on my behalf however I?m not sure cold blueing as in gun barrels is what I?m after buddy. Also a phone call to the east coast of USA from the west coast of OZ might not warrant the expense but as said thanks for your time and help. Den From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of slatskars at comcast.net Sent: Sunday, 3 January 2010 12:42 PM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Blueing of old rover Tools Out of curiosity, I checked my last issue of American Rifleman (Yes , I am a life member of NRA) and found one listing for Bluing and or Parkerizing. The web site is www.hotflashrefinishing.com <http://www.hotflashrefinishing.com/> . If that doesn't work for what is being sought. One of my former Navy Pistol teammates was going to retire to the San Diego area and run a gunsmith and bluing business. That is quite a while ago, so I don't know if he followed through and/or is still in business. I looked him up in the white pages and did get a phone number for his home address. If the originator is interested, I could try contacting him by phone. He was a very competent gunsmith and meticulous in his work. Slats -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100103/c881ae1f/attachment.html> From den at aachenkennels.com Sun Jan 3 04:31:35 2010 From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 18:31:35 +0900 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] C.L.R. ( or rust removal ) References: <d12.6b8580f0.3870b1b1@aol.com> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081A91@Server.adoptsec.local><73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081A98@Server.adoptsec.local> <4B402D65.8060805@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081AA0@Server.adoptsec.local> G'Day Dave, Seeing as you are from South Oz I've been told that my best chance of finding a pre war Rover 14 HP engine would be from your part of OZ. So may I say 'sod' CLR any chance you may know someone I could get in touch with concerning the engine?. BTW the data sheet was very interesting...So no caustic after all.!! Den. Hi all MSDS sheet for CLR is here http://victas.uca.org.au/main.php?pg=download&id=8587 Cheers Dave South Oz From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Sun Jan 3 06:14:54 2010 From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 21:44:54 +1030 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] C.L.R. ( or rust removal ) In-Reply-To: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081AA0@Server.adoptsec.local> References: <d12.6b8580f0.3870b1b1@aol.com> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081A91@Server.adoptsec.local><73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081A98@Server.adoptsec.local> <4B402D65.8060805@ozemail.com.au> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081AA0@Server.adoptsec.local> Message-ID: <4B407C2E.6080307@ozemail.com.au> Hi Dennis The best people with their "finger on the pulse" would be the South Australian Rover Club here .... Rover Car Club of South Australia Inc. PO Box 342 North Adelaide SA 5006 E-mail: ptol at chariot.net.au HTH Cheers Dave South Oz Dennis Gallacher wrote: > G'Day Dave, > Seeing as you are from South Oz I've been told that my best chance of > finding a pre war Rover 14 HP engine would be from your part of OZ. So > may I say 'sod' CLR any chance you may know someone I could get in touch > with concerning the engine?. <snip> From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Sun Jan 3 06:17:05 2010 From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 21:47:05 +1030 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] C.L.R. ( or rust removal ) In-Reply-To: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081AA0@Server.adoptsec.local> References: <d12.6b8580f0.3870b1b1@aol.com> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081A91@Server.adoptsec.local><73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081A98@Server.adoptsec.local> <4B402D65.8060805@ozemail.com.au> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081AA0@Server.adoptsec.local> Message-ID: <4B407CB1.8070106@ozemail.com.au> There is also a full list here http://www.roverqueensland.asn.au/Aust New Zealand.htm Dennis Gallacher wrote: > G'Day Dave, > Seeing as you are from South Oz I've been told that my best chance of > finding a pre war Rover 14 HP engine would be from your part of OZ. So > may I say 'sod' CLR any chance you may know someone I could get in touch > with concerning the engine?. <snip> From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Sun Jan 3 06:19:05 2010 From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 21:49:05 +1030 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] C.L.R. ( or rust removal ) In-Reply-To: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081AA0@Server.adoptsec.local> References: <d12.6b8580f0.3870b1b1@aol.com> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081A91@Server.adoptsec.local><73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081A98@Server.adoptsec.local> <4B402D65.8060805@ozemail.com.au> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081AA0@Server.adoptsec.local> Message-ID: <4B407D29.3020605@ozemail.com.au> Oops!! Stripped out the spaces .... http://www.roverqueensland.asn.au/Aust%20New%20Zealand.htm Cheers Dave South Oz From veetwinrider at yahoo.com Sun Jan 3 10:46:45 2010 From: veetwinrider at yahoo.com (roland) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 07:46:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Sleeving calipers Message-ID: <51760.15911.qm@web180513.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I do not have any first hand knowledge of Apple, but have heard not such good about them. I do recommend White Post and highly recommend Sierra Specialty. Sierra Specialty Automotive 3494 Chandler Rd. Quincy, CA 95971 (800) 4-BRASS-1 or (530) 283-1886 FAX: (530) 283-4845 White Post Restorations One Old Car Drive Post Office Drawer D White Post, VA 22663 (540) 837-1140 I've had good luck with both and the parts are still working fine after many years of having them done. Good luck. roland 60 P5 for sale --- On Sat, 1/2/10, Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com> wrote: From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Sleeving calipers To: "NEW RovernetRovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 10:02 AM Fellow Roverists, I finally have found the time and courage to strip down the rear calipers (Girling type) on my '69 2000 TC. I considered having Apple Hydraulics resleeve them, but I thought I'd check with the Rovernet first to see if there are any other more highly preferred companies which do resleeving. Cheers, Nathan ? ? ? _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From nathanobuch at yahoo.com Sun Jan 3 15:19:14 2010 From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com (Nathan Obuch) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 12:19:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Sleeving calipers In-Reply-To: <51760.15911.qm@web180513.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <813895.4576.qm@web110307.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Thanks for the recommendations! Nathan --- On Sun, 1/3/10, roland <veetwinrider at yahoo.com> wrote: > From: roland <veetwinrider at yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Sleeving calipers > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 9:46 AM > I do not have any first hand > knowledge of Apple, but have heard not such good about them. > I do recommend White Post and highly recommend Sierra > Specialty. > > Sierra Specialty Automotive > > 3494 Chandler Rd. Quincy, CA 95971 > (800) 4-BRASS-1 or (530) 283-1886 > FAX: (530) 283-4845 > > > White Post Restorations > One Old Car Drive > Post Office Drawer D > White Post, VA 22663 > (540) 837-1140 > > > I've had good luck with both and the parts are still > working fine after many years of having them done. > > Good luck. > > roland > 60 P5 for sale > --- On Sat, 1/2/10, Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Sleeving calipers > To: "NEW RovernetRovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 10:02 AM > > > Fellow Roverists, > > I finally have found the time and courage to strip down the > rear calipers (Girling type) on my '69 2000 TC. I considered > having Apple Hydraulics resleeve them, but I thought I'd > check with the Rovernet first to see if there are any other > more highly preferred companies which do resleeving. > > Cheers, > > Nathan > > > ? ? ? > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest > mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest > mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > From ilcommodor at aol.com Sun Jan 3 15:49:16 2010 From: ilcommodor at aol.com (Jamie Kitman) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 15:49:16 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Sleeving calipers In-Reply-To: <813895.4576.qm@web110307.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <813895.4576.qm@web110307.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B4102CC.3010104@aol.com> i had a terrible experience w one of the principals of apple hydraulics many years ago, as a teenager, when he was a young man running a body shop. he stole the perfect front wings i brought him to install and paint on my MGA. it emerged soon enough, as i was in an accident on the snowy night when i went to pick the car up (another classic, a 57 pontiac skid into oncoming traffic; at low speed fortunately.) he refused to come help me, even though i was a mile from his shop. the next morning i realized that he'd substituted a rusty pair of fenders, filled with yards of body filler. he refused to remedy my grievance, stopped taking my calls and i was too shocked and embarassed to bring legal action against him. (it took me three years to pay my father back for the bad bodywork he'd paid for. years later, i realized he was the same guy who answered the phone at apple and i stopped doing business with them immediately. jamie kitman nyack new york --- Original Message --- From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Sleeving calipers Date: 1/3/10 3:19 PM > Thanks for the recommendations! > > Nathan > > --- On Sun, 1/3/10, roland <veetwinrider at yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> From: roland <veetwinrider at yahoo.com> >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Sleeving calipers >> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >> Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 9:46 AM >> I do not have any first hand >> knowledge of Apple, but have heard not such good about them. >> I do recommend White Post and highly recommend Sierra >> Specialty. >> >> Sierra Specialty Automotive >> >> 3494 Chandler Rd. Quincy, CA 95971 >> (800) 4-BRASS-1 or (530) 283-1886 >> FAX: (530) 283-4845 >> >> >> White Post Restorations >> One Old Car Drive >> Post Office Drawer D >> White Post, VA 22663 >> (540) 837-1140 >> >> >> I've had good luck with both and the parts are still >> working fine after many years of having them done. >> >> Good luck. >> >> roland >> 60 P5 for sale >> --- On Sat, 1/2/10, Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com> >> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Sleeving calipers >> To: "NEW RovernetRovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >> Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 10:02 AM >> >> >> Fellow Roverists, >> >> I finally have found the time and courage to strip down the >> rear calipers (Girling type) on my '69 2000 TC. I considered >> having Apple Hydraulics resleeve them, but I thought I'd >> check with the Rovernet first to see if there are any other >> more highly preferred companies which do resleeving. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Nathan >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest >> mode or no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here are the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest >> mode or no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here are the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > From gbbourque at gmail.com Sun Jan 3 16:43:51 2010 From: gbbourque at gmail.com (garrett bourque) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 16:43:51 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] possible machinist for sleeving cylinders Message-ID: <982f148d1001031343h3345da7ehd9d3988831a0ba27@mail.gmail.com> Hello Rover drivers, For stainless steel cylinder sleeving, try Mark Frappier. His address is 82 Mountainview St. Agawam, Massachusetts 01001 Try 1800 528 5235 or search for him on the web to verify his phone number, or find an email. His sleeving is very nicely done and costs much less than White Post does. He will work with you and answer a question after the job is returned to you, if needed, which White Post will not do very willingly!! Good Luck, Garrett Bourque -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100103/f441bb31/attachment.html> From fmcardle at suffolk.lib.ny.us Sun Jan 3 16:54:42 2010 From: fmcardle at suffolk.lib.ny.us (fmcardle at suffolk.lib.ny.us) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 16:54:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Sleeving calipers In-Reply-To: <4B4102CC.3010104@aol.com> References: <813895.4576.qm@web110307.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4B4102CC.3010104@aol.com> Message-ID: <7f18c36181c0dd9fb8bc308bea8faf77.squirrel@mail.suffolk.lib.ny.us> Jaime, I too had a VERY bad experience with this same guy at Apple Hydraulics. Drop me a line if your interested in the story. What a slime he turned out to be. By the way I'm the guy that is parting oput a 70, 3500s out here on Long Island. ( Sag Harbor) My names Pete McArdle and I was involved with Rootes and Rover and later took over the business from Long Island City known as LIC Imports. I believe you have mentioned these guys in one or more of your magazine articles. I also was the last Factory to Dealer rep for Rootes and was the last dealer for the P6 range of cars here in NY. I would very much like to meet you and we can talk about the cars we grew up with. Pete McArdle 631 725 3921 or fmcardle at suffolk.lib.ny.us > i had a terrible experience w one of the principals of apple hydraulics > many years ago, as a teenager, when he was a young man running a body > shop. he stole the perfect front wings i brought him to install and > paint on my MGA. it emerged soon enough, as i was in an accident on the > snowy night when i went to pick the car up (another classic, a 57 > pontiac skid into oncoming traffic; at low speed fortunately.) he > refused to come help me, even though i was a mile from his shop. the > next morning i realized that he'd substituted a rusty pair of fenders, > filled with yards of body filler. he refused to remedy my grievance, > stopped taking my calls and i was too shocked and embarassed to bring > legal action against him. (it took me three years to pay my father back > for the bad bodywork he'd paid for. years later, i realized he was the > same guy who answered the phone at apple and i stopped doing business > with them immediately. > > jamie kitman > nyack new york > > --- Original Message --- > From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com> > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Sleeving calipers > Date: 1/3/10 3:19 PM >> Thanks for the recommendations! >> >> Nathan >> >> --- On Sun, 1/3/10, roland <veetwinrider at yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> >>> From: roland <veetwinrider at yahoo.com> >>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Sleeving calipers >>> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." >>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >>> Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 9:46 AM >>> I do not have any first hand >>> knowledge of Apple, but have heard not such good about them. >>> I do recommend White Post and highly recommend Sierra >>> Specialty. >>> >>> Sierra Specialty Automotive >>> >>> 3494 Chandler Rd. Quincy, CA 95971 >>> (800) 4-BRASS-1 or (530) 283-1886 >>> FAX: (530) 283-4845 >>> >>> >>> White Post Restorations >>> One Old Car Drive >>> Post Office Drawer D >>> White Post, VA 22663 >>> (540) 837-1140 >>> >>> >>> I've had good luck with both and the parts are still >>> working fine after many years of having them done. >>> >>> Good luck. >>> >>> roland >>> 60 P5 for sale >>> --- On Sat, 1/2/10, Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com> >>> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Sleeving calipers >>> To: "NEW RovernetRovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >>> Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 10:02 AM >>> >>> >>> Fellow Roverists, >>> >>> I finally have found the time and courage to strip down the >>> rear calipers (Girling type) on my '69 2000 TC. I considered >>> having Apple Hydraulics resleeve them, but I thought I'd >>> check with the Rovernet first to see if there are any other >>> more highly preferred companies which do resleeving. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Nathan >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Rovernet mailing list >>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest >>> mode or no-mail: >>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>> Here are the old Rovernet archives: >>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Rovernet mailing list >>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest >>> mode or no-mail: >>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>> Here are the old Rovernet archives: >>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >> no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here are the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > From roverman2 at verizon.net Sun Jan 3 17:28:11 2010 From: roverman2 at verizon.net (Dermot Harvey) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 17:28:11 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P6 rear calipers Message-ID: <A110DDEE-A570-42EF-83F5-4B2DB2C9FCE7@verizon.net> I have been rebuilding P6 rear calipers for over 25 years. I used to have them resleeved in brass by White Post, but now have them done in Stainless Steel. I have never had a return or a problem on a caliper I have rebuilt. The problem with sending calipers out to a big non Rover company is that they probably won't have the caliper parts (if they are needed). Only Rover and English Ford used the swinging caliper. The calipers may work, but the self adjusting mechanism is prone to wear and may need parts replacement. I know of screw ups by both White Post and Apple Hydraulics. I saw an SD1 master cylinder that had been rebuilt by White Post. Instead of rebuilding the shuttle valve, they drilled right through it! If you are interested in having your rear calipers rebuilt by me, please contact me directly at roverman2 at verizon.net . I will be away in England for the next couple of weeks. On the subject of Phosphoric Acid treatments, The best stuff I have used is Rust-Mort which is made by SEM in the US. It is only available from professional body shop suppliers. and should be used with care. Dermot Harvey Spectral Kinetics From nathanobuch at yahoo.com Sun Jan 3 18:31:01 2010 From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com (Nathan Obuch) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 15:31:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] sleeving calipers Message-ID: <223764.13329.qm@web110304.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> A blanket thank you to all who took the time to respond. I'll definitely be avoiding Apple Hydraulics. They did some A/H 3000 calipers for me a while back which came out OK, but the times I've called them in the past they really haven't seemed knowledgeable about Rovers. I wasn't too worried about that as I'd just be sending disassembled calipers for sleeving only, but now that I know there are "ethically challenged" individuals working there I will take my business elsewhere. Nathan From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Sun Jan 3 19:41:38 2010 From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 19:41:38 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] possible machinist for sleeving cylinders In-Reply-To: <982f148d1001031343h3345da7ehd9d3988831a0ba27@mail.gmail.com> References: <982f148d1001031343h3345da7ehd9d3988831a0ba27@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B413942.9030506@alum.swarthmore.edu> Hi all, I second everything that Garrett has said about Mark Frappier. He has sleeved numerous wheel cylinders and master cylinders in stainless steel for me over several years and every one was done well and gave no trouble after I assembled the cylinders with new kits. Mark took over the business from his uncle George Frechette who had done sleeving for me too; both had advertised in Hemmings in the services section from time to time, but I get the impression that Mark is now busy enough that he no longer needs to advertise. I doubt that there are many brake or clutch hydraulic cylinders that Mark has not worked on, but he has successfully sleeved P6 rear calipers, a brake master cylinder (a stepped bore with two different sleeves) and a clutch master cylinder (had to drill through the "saddle tank" to drill the low pressure port into the new sleeve, then plug the hole in the tank) for a 2000TC, and recently sleeved a 3500S master cylinder. The 3500S cylinder was familiar to him from his work for a Jaguar specialist -- it is the same as that for a late E-type. For anyone on the list with an early Rover 2000 with Dunlop brakes, Mark has developed fixtures to sleeve the removable cylinder for Dunlop front brake calipers, also used on Jaguars. Dermot brings up a good point about rebuilding brake cylinders in general and the P6 rear cylinders in particular. Brake cylinder sleeving specialists like Mark or Sierra Specialty, generally do only the sleeving, and not the subsequent rebuilding. I prefer to do my own rebuilding after having Mark do the sleeving, but Dermot and others are experienced at assembling the various Rover cylinders after sleeving if you don't want to take that on yourself. White Post apparently offers only combined sleeving and assembly with new seals, but I am aware of at least two White Post customers that have had to send back rebuilt cylinders to get problems corrected, though I have not dealt with them directly. For most front calipers it is not necessary to sleeve the caliper -- the same thing is accomplished by installing new pistons (the seals make contact with the piston O.D.) and new seals... Happy Roving in the New Year, Steve Manwell garrett bourque wrote: > Hello Rover drivers, > For stainless steel cylinder sleeving, try Mark Frappier. His > address is 82 Mountainview St. Agawam, Massachusetts 01001 > Try 1800 528 5235 or search for him on the web to verify his phone > number, or find an email. His sleeving is very nicely done and costs > much less than White Post does. He will work with you and answer a > question after the job is returned to you, if needed, which White Post > will not do very willingly!! > Good Luck, > Garrett Bourque > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From slatskars at comcast.net Sun Jan 3 22:48:29 2010 From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 03:48:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Blueing of old rover Tools In-Reply-To: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081A9B@Server.adoptsec.local> Message-ID: <1523070342.7005931262576909378.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> This website suggests that they do HOT finishing of at least six different types. Also, Whitmore, Calif. is on the West (left) coast. I did not realize that you were in OZ. with your gun laws there, I would guess that you do not have many gunsmiths. sorry about that! Slats ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Gallacher" <den at aachenkennels.com> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2010 1:05:40 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Blueing of old rover Tools Thanks for the time spent on my behalf however I?m not sure cold blueing as in gun barrels is what I?m after buddy. Also a phone call to the east coast of USA from the west coast of OZ might not warrant the expense but as said thanks for your time and help. Den From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of slatskars at comcast.net Sent: Sunday, 3 January 2010 12:42 PM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Blueing of old rover Tools Out of curiosity, I checked my last issue of American Rifleman (Yes , I am a life member of NRA) and found one listing for Bluing and or Parkerizing. The web site is www.hotflashrefinishing.com . If that doesn't work for what is being sought. One of my former Navy Pistol teammates was going to retire to the San Diego area and run a gunsmith and bluing business. That is quite a while ago, so I don't know if he followed through and/or is still in business. I looked him up in the white pages and did get a phone number for his home address. If the originator is interested, I could try contacting him by phone. He was a very competent gunsmith and meticulous in his work. Slats _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100104/dafd4bb2/attachment.html> From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Mon Jan 4 19:06:26 2010 From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell) Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 19:06:26 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Removal of... "wood" P6 steering wheel In-Reply-To: <0DD3E4DA-C0C3-419A-96E0-0CA6708BD912@telusplanet.net> References: <0DD3E4DA-C0C3-419A-96E0-0CA6708BD912@telusplanet.net> Message-ID: <4B428282.4080906@alum.swarthmore.edu> Believe it or not this method often works (but not always): Remove the decorative cap with Rover logo and loosen the center nut on the steering shaft -- as described by Eric in another post. Grab onto the two steering wheel spokes near the hub, then jerk one side up, then the other, and repeat in rapid succession. This method will often loosen the hub from the spline with no other use of pullers or hammers needed. Removing the wheel from the hub is easy on the earlier types with three bolts with hex heads. Later wheels have three "one-way" screws where the slot is machined such that the screwdriver blade grips when turned clockwise, and slips counterclockwise. I think the screw threads also have some sort of locking arrangement that makes them very reluctant to turn even if you can grip the screw head -- the head is very likely to twist off of the threaded part. It is MUCH preferable to leave the steering wheel attached to this type of hub. Good luck, Steve Manwell Roy Babiuk wrote: > #1: For those with simulated wood steering wheels with large round > viking logo; > How do you remove the boss, and then the wheel itself. > Does the wheel come of the splines easily or is a puller needed? > > #2: For those who have redone their interior floorpans, what did you > use to remove the old carpet adhesive from sills etc? > Can this be done without stripping the underlaying paint? > > Thanks for any assistance. > > Roy > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > From p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk Mon Jan 4 19:41:37 2010 From: p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk (p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 00:41:37 -0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Removal of... "wood" P6 steeringwheel References: <0DD3E4DA-C0C3-419A-96E0-0CA6708BD912@telusplanet.net> <4B428282.4080906@alum.swarthmore.edu> Message-ID: <509ACC16AEB0435B9F32BBBD80FC6C36@SN037535920331> I have had one steering wheel which wouldn't come off the splines and I ended up using a two legged puller but replaced the solid legs with two short lengths of chain (& plenty of foam protection around the spokes of the wheel). Because in my opinion, I think, jerking the wheel from one side to the other may cause damage to the steering locking mechanism and or the steering wheel position adjustment mechanism. Just my thought. Speak Soon Warmest regards Mark Mark Gray Editor, Driving Force The Rover P6 Club From slatskars at comcast.net Mon Jan 4 21:05:02 2010 From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 02:05:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Removal of... "wood" P6 steeringwheel In-Reply-To: <509ACC16AEB0435B9F32BBBD80FC6C36@SN037535920331> Message-ID: <2084179386.7420781262657102424.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I removed one years ago on a Volvo PV 444, by loosening the nut a couple of threads and driving the car on a rough road until the vibration worked it loose. I did not have a puller availble at that time. Slats -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100105/ca9bc277/attachment.html> From vmitps at netspace.net.au Tue Jan 5 03:04:20 2010 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (vmitps at netspace.net.au) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 19:04:20 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Removal of... "wood" P6 steering wheel In-Reply-To: <4B428282.4080906@alum.swarthmore.edu> References: <0DD3E4DA-C0C3-419A-96E0-0CA6708BD912@telusplanet.net> <4B428282.4080906@alum.swarthmore.edu> Message-ID: <1262678660.4b42f2847aa17@webmail.netspace.net.au> I replaced the screws on the 2 spoke wheel with Allen bolts. Solved. PVS > > Removing the wheel from the hub is easy on the earlier types with three > bolts with hex heads. Later wheels have three "one-way" screws where > the slot is machined such that the screwdriver blade grips when turned > clockwise, and slips counterclockwise. I think the screw threads also > have some sort of locking arrangement that makes them very reluctant to > turn even if you can grip the screw head -- the head is very likely to > twist off of the threaded part. It is MUCH preferable to leave the > steering wheel attached to this type of hub. > > Good luck, > > Steve Manwell > > > Roy Babiuk wrote: > > #1: For those with simulated wood steering wheels with large round > > viking logo; > > How do you remove the boss, and then the wheel itself. > > Does the wheel come of the splines easily or is a puller needed? > > > > #2: For those who have redone their interior floorpans, what did you > > use to remove the old carpet adhesive from sills etc? > > Can this be done without stripping the underlaying paint? > > > > Thanks for any assistance. > > > > Roy > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > > no-mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > ------------------------------------------------------------ This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au From kkinard at att.net Tue Jan 5 10:49:29 2010 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 09:49:29 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 on Ebay Message-ID: <4B435F89.5030402@att.net> Hi Gang, Did I miss something? Whose early 2000 is this on Ebay. It's got Dunlop brakes and a sharkstooth valence. Roverly, Kent K. From james.moison at gmail.com Tue Jan 5 12:25:27 2010 From: james.moison at gmail.com (james moison) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 10:25:27 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 on Ebay In-Reply-To: <4B435F89.5030402@att.net> References: <4B435F89.5030402@att.net> Message-ID: <dd17f4c61001050925u700ebe59kfac104c2671779fb@mail.gmail.com> Don't know, I put mine on Craig's list. It is a 67 TC with Girling all around. Stainless sleeved no less. Jim. Boise Idaho On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> wrote: > Hi Gang, > Did I miss something? Whose early 2000 is this on Ebay. It's got Dunlop > brakes and a sharkstooth valence. > > Roverly, > Kent K. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100105/72a4ebbf/attachment.html> From sharrigan2000tc at gmail.com Wed Jan 6 00:31:01 2010 From: sharrigan2000tc at gmail.com (Sean Harrigan) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 21:31:01 -0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] liquidation time Message-ID: <beb7b151001052131m202d4ca4m2f83a08bb7dec2ce@mail.gmail.com> Happy new year Roverphiles!! With this new new year brings a new direction in my personal projects.... which leaves no space for my 3 2000tcs & one 3500. one 2000tc runs great and was a daily driver...until a currently sought after tree trimmer dropped a giant branch on the roofline, breaking the windshield. the other running 2000tc needs a clutch. the third is a doner. The 3500 hasnt been started on. i have many extra parts & will do my best to help rovernetters anyway possible. bring needs and offers. Thank you Sean Harrigan sean at plascorinc.net 951 500 6360 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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With this new new year brings a new direction in my personal projects.... which leaves no space for my 3 2000tcs & one 3500. one 2000tc runs great and was a daily driver...until a currently sought after tree trimmer dropped a giant branch on the roofline, breaking the windshield. the other running 2000tc needs a clutch. the third is a doner. The 3500 hasnt been started on. i have many extra parts & will do my best to help rovernetters anyway possible. bring needs and offers. Thank you Sean Harrigan sean at plascorinc.net 951 500 6360 __________________________________________________________________ Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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With this new new year brings a new > direction in my personal projects.... which leaves no space for my 3 > 2000tcs & one 3500. one 2000tc runs great and was a daily > driver...until a currently sought after tree trimmer dropped a giant > branch on the roofline, breaking the windshield. the other running > 2000tc needs a clutch. the third is a doner. The 3500 hasnt been > started on. i have many extra parts & will do my best to help > rovernetters anyway possible. bring needs and offers. > > Thank you > > Sean Harrigan > sean at plascorinc.net <mailto:sean at plascorinc.net> > 951 500 6360 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *All new Yahoo! 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Dave Moorefield Asheville, North Carolina _____ From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca on behalf of ilcommodor at aol.com Sent: Thu 1/7/2010 1:11 PM To: p6rovers at yahoo.com; rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] How many old Rovers still in the US A friend of a friend, writing from the UK's austin rover website, wants to know what our best guess as to how many Rover cars remain in the States. Any guesses -- educated or semi-educated preferred? Jamie Kitman Nyack New York. ----------------------------------------- This message and its attachments may contain confidential and/or legally-sensitive information that is intended for the sole use of the addressee(s). Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution of the information contained in this message and its attachments is prohibited. If you have received this message or any of its attachments in error, please destroy all originals and copies of the same and notify the sender immediately. From tnrholmes at gmail.com Thu Jan 7 14:16:27 2010 From: tnrholmes at gmail.com (Robert Holmes) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 14:16:27 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] How many old Rovers still in the US In-Reply-To: <49e8.7134200.38777dc9@aol.com> References: <49e8.7134200.38777dc9@aol.com> Message-ID: <a951931f1001071116r1721bc55q1d5da7dc8aeea6cd@mail.gmail.com> I have two 2000TC's in Louisville, Ky. Rob Holmes On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:11 PM, <ilcommodor at aol.com> wrote: > A friend of a friend, writing from the UK's austin rover website, wants to > know what our best guess as to how many Rover cars remain in the States. Any > guesses -- educated or semi-educated preferred? > > Jamie Kitman > Nyack New York. > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100107/d3cc13fb/attachment.html> From kkinard at att.net Thu Jan 7 14:18:54 2010 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:18:54 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] How many old Rovers still in the US In-Reply-To: <49e8.7134200.38777dc9@aol.com> References: <49e8.7134200.38777dc9@aol.com> Message-ID: <4B46339E.80606@att.net> Hi Jamie, It seems as if we speculated on this once before. At least twenty come up for sale on Ebay each year. If you count only restorable or running cars, there might be two hundred. The Brits are more ambitious at repairing rust so would probably count as restorable some of those we consider only good for parts. I have seventeen that would be classed as runners or restorable. Dirk probably has forty or fifty? The Manwells have four or five. There are several folks who have two to four. Of those that I know of nearby, there are probably not more than half a dozen in Texas and Oklahoma. I don't hear anything from Rovers West or Pat Teske but there were some cars still in Tuscon last I heard. There may still be a couple of cars in Arkansas, though I have lost touch with the owners. Roverly, Kent K. ilcommodor at aol.com wrote: > A friend of a friend, writing from the UK's austin rover website, > wants to know what our best guess as to how many Rover cars remain in > the States. Any guesses -- educated or semi-educated preferred? > > Jamie Kitman > Nyack New York. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From rovertcv8 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 7 14:28:24 2010 From: rovertcv8 at yahoo.com (David Sheuring) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 11:28:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] How many old Rovers still in the US In-Reply-To: <6249C5C744A3CD4BAB36E65B67304F41020ACF08@EMAIL1C.MSJ.ORG> References: <49e8.7134200.38777dc9@aol.com> <6249C5C744A3CD4BAB36E65B67304F41020ACF08@EMAIL1C.MSJ.ORG> Message-ID: <895442.69956.qm@web38406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello to All, My Son has one at NC State, 1980 SD1, and I have my P6B 1970 Rover 3500S modified ; both run and on the road And then I have a 68 that does not run. Thats in Lillington, NC David ----- Original Message ---- From: David L Moorefield <David.Moorefield at msj.org> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Thu, January 7, 2010 2:14:41 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] How many old Rovers still in the US None observed in Western North Carolina, and only three SD1's, inwhich only one RUNS..imagine that! British Car Club of South Carolina, may have several (Spartanburg). Dave Moorefield Asheville, North Carolina ? _____ From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca on behalf of ilcommodor at aol.com Sent: Thu 1/7/2010 1:11 PM To: p6rovers at yahoo.com; rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] How many old Rovers still in the US A friend of a friend, writing from the UK's austin rover website, wants to know what our best guess as to how many Rover cars remain in the States. Any guesses -- educated or semi-educated preferred? Jamie Kitman Nyack New York. ----------------------------------------- This message and its attachments may contain confidential and/or legally-sensitive information that is intended for the sole use of the addressee(s). Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution of the information contained in this message and its attachments is prohibited. If you have received this message or any of its attachments in error, please destroy all originals and copies of the same and notify the sender immediately.? _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From ilcommodor at aol.com Thu Jan 7 14:31:33 2010 From: ilcommodor at aol.com (Jamie Kitman) Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 14:31:33 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] How many old Rovers still in the US In-Reply-To: <4B46339E.80606@att.net> References: <49e8.7134200.38777dc9@aol.com> <4B46339E.80606@att.net> Message-ID: <4B463695.1040301@aol.com> i have two, a freshly restored P6B converted to five speed manual and an unrusty, running but wanting restoration (tired paint, baked interior) ex-california 1980 SD1 auto, with complete series 1 interior from UK (including quartic wheel) which i may have to sell, very cheaply -- all here 20 miles outside of nyc. jamie kitman nyack ny --- Original Message --- From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] How many old Rovers still in the US Date: 1/7/10 2:18 PM > Hi Jamie, > It seems as if we speculated on this once before. At least twenty > come up for sale on Ebay each year. If you count only restorable or > running cars, there might be two hundred. The Brits are more > ambitious at repairing rust so would probably count as restorable some > of those we consider only good for parts. I have seventeen that would > be classed as runners or restorable. Dirk probably has forty or > fifty? The Manwells have four or five. There are several folks who > have two to four. Of those that I know of nearby, there are probably > not more than half a dozen in Texas and Oklahoma. I don't hear > anything from Rovers West or Pat Teske but there were some cars still > in Tuscon last I heard. There may still be a couple of cars in > Arkansas, though I have lost touch with the owners. > > Roverly, > Kent K. > > ilcommodor at aol.com wrote: >> A friend of a friend, writing from the UK's austin rover website, >> wants to know what our best guess as to how many Rover cars remain in >> the States. Any guesses -- educated or semi-educated preferred? >> >> Jamie Kitman >> Nyack New York. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >> no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here are the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From jLewis at wsscwater.com Thu Jan 7 14:43:38 2010 From: jLewis at wsscwater.com (Lewis, Joseph (Michael)) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 14:43:38 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] How many old Rovers still in the US In-Reply-To: <49e8.7134200.38777dc9@aol.com> References: <49e8.7134200.38777dc9@aol.com> Message-ID: <1A1EBE4A9FAEEB42911D577E08CA792204D1C0F8@COB-EXV-01.wssc.ad.root> Jamie - I have a 1980 SD1 and I just got rid of one (parts car). The gentleman I gave my parts car to has at least two SD1's and I know of at least 3 more here in the DC/Maryland/Virginia area. I also know of a maroon SD1 in the Shenandoah mountain area of Virginia. J. Michael Lewis ________________________________ From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of ilcommodor at aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:11 PM To: p6rovers at yahoo.com; rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] How many old Rovers still in the US A friend of a friend, writing from the UK's austin rover website, wants to know what our best guess as to how many Rover cars remain in the States. Any guesses -- educated or semi-educated preferred? Jamie Kitman Nyack New York. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100107/1d7cca25/attachment-0001.html> From tbadrick at aol.com Thu Jan 7 14:57:33 2010 From: tbadrick at aol.com (tbadrick at aol.com) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 14:57:33 EST Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] How many old Rovers still in the US Message-ID: <646e.5ab3fe6a.387796ad@aol.com> John Burkhard was keeping up a list of west coast cars/owners, John you out there? The copy of the spreadsheet I have (2006) lists quite a few from the west (72). There are a pair of P6's near me that are running and not part of the west coast list or this listserv. Tom Portland, Oregon 60 P4 In a message dated 1/7/2010 11:32:03 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, ilcommodor at aol.com writes: i have two, a freshly restored P6B converted to five speed manual and an unrusty, running but wanting restoration (tired paint, baked interior) ex-california 1980 SD1 auto, with complete series 1 interior from UK (including quartic wheel) which i may have to sell, very cheaply -- all here 20 miles outside of nyc. jamie kitman nyack ny --- Original Message --- From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] How many old Rovers still in the US Date: 1/7/10 2:18 PM > Hi Jamie, > It seems as if we speculated on this once before. At least twenty > come up for sale on Ebay each year. If you count only restorable or > running cars, there might be two hundred. The Brits are more > ambitious at repairing rust so would probably count as restorable some > of those we consider only good for parts. I have seventeen that would > be classed as runners or restorable. Dirk probably has forty or > fifty? The Manwells have four or five. There are several folks who > have two to four. Of those that I know of nearby, there are probably > not more than half a dozen in Texas and Oklahoma. I don't hear > anything from Rovers West or Pat Teske but there were some cars still > in Tuscon last I heard. There may still be a couple of cars in > Arkansas, though I have lost touch with the owners. > > Roverly, > Kent K. > > ilcommodor at aol.com wrote: >> A friend of a friend, writing from the UK's austin rover website, >> wants to know what our best guess as to how many Rover cars remain in >> the States. Any guesses -- educated or semi-educated preferred? >> >> Jamie Kitman >> Nyack New York. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >> no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here are the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Garrett Bourque On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:11 PM, <ilcommodor at aol.com> wrote: > A friend of a friend, writing from the UK's austin rover website, wants to > know what our best guess as to how many Rover cars remain in the States. Any > guesses -- educated or semi-educated preferred? > > Jamie Kitman > Nyack New York. > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100107/87fa5b8a/attachment.html> From gbbourque at gmail.com Thu Jan 7 15:52:57 2010 From: gbbourque at gmail.com (garrett bourque) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 15:52:57 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] How many old Rovers still in the US In-Reply-To: <982f148d1001071232s1eeee158v95930d5d526d2ae8@mail.gmail.com> References: <49e8.7134200.38777dc9@aol.com> <982f148d1001071232s1eeee158v95930d5d526d2ae8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <982f148d1001071252h33e61d19tf8ba0ae78f8feb32@mail.gmail.com> Hello again Rovernet, I have 2 1970 3500s Rovers. One is an unrusty but incomplete parts car which is for sale for $300. It has 1980 Georgia plates on it and would save somebody hundreds of hours in bodywork if they wanted to paint it and put their rusty or damaged car's parts into this bodyshell. I have it stored inside as well. I can be reached at gbbourque at gmail.com if anybody would like more info or a few photos that I took while moving the car last summer. My second 1970 3500s is my restored red 4.0 engine five speed conversion car. I have owned since the early 90s and it got me into Rovers in the first place. A former employer, Ted Howard, Howard's Garage, Warren Maine has had probably 50 Rover cars pass through his shop since he opened it in 1970. These days, he has a roadworthy p4 that a deceased customer willed him, and just got a 2000TC going and sold it to a customer last summer. He also has 2 rough 2000 parts cars and a 75 parts car. I helped him scrap a couple of p5s and a pair of p4s while I worked for him. There are the remains of 10-15 LAnd Rovers at his place too!! Some Rover owners attended a weekend car disassembly session some years ago there before some of these cars were hauled away! Garrett Bourque GB Services Auto Restoration Jefferson, Maine website with Rover and Jag photos of projects from my shop www.gbservicesusa.com On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:32 PM, garrett bourque <gbbourque at gmail.com> wrote: > Hello rovernet, > I do not have the foggiest idea of how many Rovers remain in the USA. > Having said that... A really hard core Porsche club out west was able to > poll different motor vehicle registry offices in different states to ask > about how many classic Porsches there were left. That only counts > registered cars of course...who knows how many more Rovers there are lurking > in the weeds!! Some have definitely given up their parts to prolong the > lives of others!! > Garrett Bourque > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:11 PM, <ilcommodor at aol.com> wrote: > >> A friend of a friend, writing from the UK's austin rover website, wants >> to know what our best guess as to how many Rover cars remain in the States. >> Any guesses -- educated or semi-educated preferred? >> >> Jamie Kitman >> Nyack New York. >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here are the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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John Burkhard Rover Automobile Directory - West burkhaj at earthlink.net 760-365-6796 Yucca Valley, California ----- Original Message ----- From: To: p6rovers at yahoo.com;rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: 1/7/2010 10:12:27 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] How many old Rovers still in the US A friend of a friend, writing from the UK's austin rover website, wants to know what our best guess as to how many Rover cars remain in the States. Any guesses -- educated or semi-educated preferred? Jamie Kitman Nyack New York. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100107/9c0f27b2/attachment-0001.html> From gjkzscruggs at verizon.net Thu Jan 7 16:25:48 2010 From: gjkzscruggs at verizon.net (Scruggs Family) Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:25:48 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 19, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: <mailman.12.1262893416.13144.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> References: <mailman.12.1262893416.13144.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <018201ca8fdf$fb87f230$f297d690$@net> Re: How many Rovers left in the U.S. I have two TCs and a 3500S here next to my workshop and two more TCs stored on the Eastern Shore of Maryland. I know of perhaps four more P6s at that same location. Total of nine in running or restorable condition. Jamie... is your SD1 the same one about which you wrote in the famous 'there will be no more trolling eBay after having too much wine' incident? Regards, Gross Scruggs Annapolis MD From ilcommodor at aol.com Thu Jan 7 16:35:10 2010 From: ilcommodor at aol.com (Jamie Kitman) Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:35:10 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 19, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: <018201ca8fdf$fb87f230$f297d690$@net> References: <mailman.12.1262893416.13144.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <018201ca8fdf$fb87f230$f297d690$@net> Message-ID: <4B46538E.1070605@aol.com> that's the one, gross. good car, bad owner. i spent too much on my P6B, in which connection, a big, unsolicited shout out to garrett bourque who did the work. if you're thinking of hiring someone to restore a rover, garrett does excellent work. only now i can't even look at the SD1, straightforward a job as it might be. as always, the maxim ought to be not "buy the best one you can afford," but "buy the best one there is...or walk away -- you can't afford it." and thanks to all for your replies, we're a little closer to the truth, but adding the macro projections of kent and john burke i'm going to guess closer to 400 cars still out there. fortunately, nothing happens to me -- or any of us -- if we're wrong. someone east of the misissipi -- not me -- really ought to do what our western friends have done. jamie --- Original Message --- From: Scruggs Family <gjkzscruggs at verizon.net> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 19, Issue 11 Date: 1/7/10 4:25 PM > Re: How many Rovers left in the U.S. > > I have two TCs and a 3500S here next to my workshop and two more TCs stored > on the Eastern Shore of Maryland. I know of perhaps four more P6s at that > same location. Total of nine in running or restorable condition. > > Jamie... is your SD1 the same one about which you wrote in the famous 'there > will be no more trolling eBay after having too much wine' incident? > > Regards, > Gross Scruggs > Annapolis MD > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > From dmaxwell at as.net Thu Jan 7 17:19:08 2010 From: dmaxwell at as.net (dmaxwell at as.net) Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 14:19:08 -0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 19, Issue 11 Message-ID: <4b465ddc.3e4.ece.466439293@antelecom.net> I've got a '65 P5 Mk IIc that was my Grandfather's car (he bought it new in Oakland, CA) that I'm working on getting running again (it's been sitting in my garage for 11 years on stands) David Maxwell Tehachapi, CA ---- Original Message Follows ----- From: Jamie Kitman To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 19, Issue 11 Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:35:10 -0500 >that's the one, gross. good car, bad owner. i spent too >much on my P6B, in which connection, a big, unsolicited >shout out to garrett bourque who did the work. if you're >thinking of hiring someone to restore a rover, garrett >does excellent work. only now i can't even look at the SD1, >straightforward a job as it might be. as always, the maxim >ought to be not "buy the best one you can afford," but >"buy the best one there is...or walk away -- you can't >afford it." > >and thanks to all for your replies, we're a little closer >to the truth, but adding the macro projections of kent and >john burke i'm going to guess closer to 400 cars still out >there. fortunately, nothing happens to me -- or any of us >-- if we're wrong. someone east of the misissipi -- not >me -- really ought to do what our western friends have >done. > >jamie > >--- Original Message --- >From: Scruggs Family >To: rovernet at rovernet.ca >Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 19 >, Issue 11 Date: 1/7/10 4:25 PM >> Re: How many Rovers left in the U.S. >> >> I have two TCs and a 3500S here next to my workshop and >> two more TCs stored on the Eastern Shore of Maryland. I >> know of perhaps four more P6s at that same location. >>Total of nine in running or restorable condition. >> Jamie... is your SD1 the same one about which you wrote >> in the famous 'there will be no more trolling eBay after >>having too much wine' incident? >> Regards, >> Gross Scruggs >> Annapolis MD >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest >> mode or no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here are the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up >> list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > >_______________________________________________ >Rovernet mailing list >Rovernet at rovernet.ca >Here is where you can change your settings such as digest >mode or no-mail: >http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >Here are the old Rovernet archives: >http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list >and post photos at: >http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jamie Kitman Nyack New York. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100107/4b69169d/attachment.html> From hbob at bellsouth.net Thu Jan 7 18:14:56 2010 From: hbob at bellsouth.net (Bob Harris) Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 18:14:56 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD1 Message-ID: <4B466AF0.5030509@bellsouth.net> One SD1 here, still garaged. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100107/12bed7f3/attachment.html> From veetwinrider at yahoo.com Thu Jan 7 20:14:19 2010 From: veetwinrider at yahoo.com (roland) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 17:14:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] How many old Rovers still in the US Message-ID: <158377.93196.qm@web180514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I have a 1960 P5 that runs and needs finishing that's for sale. Located in the San Francisco area. roland --- On Thu, 1/7/10, Jamie Kitman <ilcommodor at aol.com> wrote: From: Jamie Kitman <ilcommodor at aol.com> > ilcommodor at aol.com wrote: >> A friend of a friend, writing from the UK's austin rover website, wants to know what our best guess as to how many Rover cars remain in the States. Any guesses -- educated or semi-educated preferred? >> >> Jamie Kitman >> Nyack New York. From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Thu Jan 7 21:42:09 2010 From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell) Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 21:42:09 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] How many Rovers in the US? In-Reply-To: <4B46538E.1070605@aol.com> References: <mailman.12.1262893416.13144.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <018201ca8fdf$fb87f230$f297d690$@net> <4B46538E.1070605@aol.com> Message-ID: <4B469B81.1000605@alum.swarthmore.edu> Jamie, John Burkhard has kept the western Rover Automobile Directory much more up to date lately than I have with the eastern portion, but as of a year or so ago, there were about 120 owners listed east of the Mississippi. Counting 40 cars for Dirk, I estimate that these owners have or had about 180 cars. In the meantime, some owners have gotten out of Rovers, or dropped out of contact, while there are other new Rovers and Rover enthusiasts that should be added to the list. As Kent suggests, it is remarkable how many previously unknown Rovers come out of the woodwork sporadically considering the small numbers of cars originally sold here. I would estimate a minimum of 500 Rovers in the US combining the two halves of the Directory, and including at least 100 other cars that are out there, but not accounted for in the directories. Coincidently, there are three 1960's Rovers currently listed in Hemmings that I not come across before (as far as I know.) --Steve Manwell Jamie Kitman wrote: > that's the one, gross. good car, bad owner. i spent too much on my > P6B, in which connection, a big, unsolicited shout out to garrett > bourque who did the work. if you're thinking of hiring someone to > restore a rover, garrett does excellent work. only now i can't even > look at the SD1, straightforward a job as it might be. as always, the > maxim ought to be not "buy the best one you can afford," but "buy the > best one there is...or walk away -- you can't afford it." > > and thanks to all for your replies, we're a little closer to the > truth, but adding the macro projections of kent and john burke i'm > going to guess closer to 400 cars still out there. fortunately, > nothing happens to me -- or any of us -- if we're wrong. someone east > of the misissipi -- not me -- really ought to do what our western > friends have done. > > jamie > > --- Original Message --- > From: Scruggs Family <gjkzscruggs at verizon.net> > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 19, Issue 11 > Date: 1/7/10 4:25 PM >> Re: How many Rovers left in the U.S. >> >> I have two TCs and a 3500S here next to my workshop and two more TCs >> stored >> on the Eastern Shore of Maryland. I know of perhaps four more P6s at >> that >> same location. Total of nine in running or restorable condition. >> Jamie... is your SD1 the same one about which you wrote in the famous >> 'there >> will be no more trolling eBay after having too much wine' incident? >> Regards, >> Gross Scruggs >> Annapolis MD >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >> no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here are the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > From ilcommodor at aol.com Thu Jan 7 21:57:24 2010 From: ilcommodor at aol.com (Jamie Kitman) Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 21:57:24 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] How many Rovers in the US? In-Reply-To: <4B469B81.1000605@alum.swarthmore.edu> References: <mailman.12.1262893416.13144.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <018201ca8fdf$fb87f230$f297d690$@net> <4B46538E.1070605@aol.com> <4B469B81.1000605@alum.swarthmore.edu> Message-ID: <4B469F14.9000303@aol.com> thanks steve -- so there's our best guess -- 500. i've forwarded it on to the interested party. personally, i'd bet there were more cars out there belonging to non-members, counting non-runners, maybe as many as 750. we need to get the human genome team on this. jamie --- Original Message --- From: S Manwell <s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] How many Rovers in the US? Date: 1/7/10 9:42 PM > Jamie, > > John Burkhard has kept the western Rover Automobile Directory much > more up to date lately than I have with the eastern portion, but as of > a year or so ago, there were about 120 owners listed east of the > Mississippi. Counting 40 cars for Dirk, I estimate that these owners > have or had about 180 cars. In the meantime, some owners have gotten > out of Rovers, or dropped out of contact, while there are other new > Rovers and Rover enthusiasts that should be added to the list. > > As Kent suggests, it is remarkable how many previously unknown Rovers > come out of the woodwork sporadically considering the small numbers of > cars originally sold here. > > I would estimate a minimum of 500 Rovers in the US combining the two > halves of the Directory, and including at least 100 other cars that > are out there, but not accounted for in the directories. > Coincidently, there are three 1960's Rovers currently listed in > Hemmings that I not come across before (as far as I know.) > > --Steve Manwell > > > Jamie Kitman wrote: >> that's the one, gross. good car, bad owner. i spent too much on my >> P6B, in which connection, a big, unsolicited shout out to garrett >> bourque who did the work. if you're thinking of hiring someone to >> restore a rover, garrett does excellent work. only now i can't even >> look at the SD1, straightforward a job as it might be. as always, the >> maxim ought to be not "buy the best one you can afford," but "buy >> the best one there is...or walk away -- you can't afford it." >> >> and thanks to all for your replies, we're a little closer to the >> truth, but adding the macro projections of kent and john burke i'm >> going to guess closer to 400 cars still out there. fortunately, >> nothing happens to me -- or any of us -- if we're wrong. someone >> east of the misissipi -- not me -- really ought to do what our >> western friends have done. >> >> jamie >> >> --- Original Message --- >> From: Scruggs Family <gjkzscruggs at verizon.net> >> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 19, Issue 11 >> Date: 1/7/10 4:25 PM >>> Re: How many Rovers left in the U.S. >>> >>> I have two TCs and a 3500S here next to my workshop and two more TCs >>> stored >>> on the Eastern Shore of Maryland. I know of perhaps four more P6s >>> at that >>> same location. Total of nine in running or restorable condition. >>> Jamie... is your SD1 the same one about which you wrote in the >>> famous 'there >>> will be no more trolling eBay after having too much wine' incident? >>> Regards, >>> Gross Scruggs >>> Annapolis MD >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Rovernet mailing list >>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >>> no-mail: >>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>> Here are the old Rovernet archives: >>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >> no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here are the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Thu Jan 7 22:03:33 2010 From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell) Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:03:33 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] How many Rovers in the US? In-Reply-To: <4B469F14.9000303@aol.com> References: <mailman.12.1262893416.13144.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <018201ca8fdf$fb87f230$f297d690$@net> <4B46538E.1070605@aol.com> <4B469B81.1000605@alum.swarthmore.edu> <4B469F14.9000303@aol.com> Message-ID: <4B46A085.4070809@alum.swarthmore.edu> I agree that there probably are more -- 750 to 1000 seems likely. Jamie Kitman wrote: > thanks steve -- so there's our best guess -- 500. i've forwarded it on > to the interested party. personally, i'd bet there were more cars out > there belonging to non-members, counting non-runners, maybe as many as > 750. we need to get the human genome team on this. > > jamie > > --- Original Message --- > From: S Manwell <s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu> > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] How many Rovers in the US? > Date: 1/7/10 9:42 PM >> Jamie, >> >> John Burkhard has kept the western Rover Automobile Directory much >> more up to date lately than I have with the eastern portion, but as >> of a year or so ago, there were about 120 owners listed east of the >> Mississippi. Counting 40 cars for Dirk, I estimate that these owners >> have or had about 180 cars. In the meantime, some owners have gotten >> out of Rovers, or dropped out of contact, while there are other new >> Rovers and Rover enthusiasts that should be added to the list. >> >> As Kent suggests, it is remarkable how many previously unknown Rovers >> come out of the woodwork sporadically considering the small numbers >> of cars originally sold here. >> >> I would estimate a minimum of 500 Rovers in the US combining the two >> halves of the Directory, and including at least 100 other cars that >> are out there, but not accounted for in the directories. >> Coincidently, there are three 1960's Rovers currently listed in >> Hemmings that I not come across before (as far as I know.) >> >> --Steve Manwell >> >> > From rababiuk at telusplanet.net Fri Jan 8 13:06:44 2010 From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net (Roy Babiuk) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 11:06:44 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover Video and blogs on Hemmings site Message-ID: <61CAB779-AA8A-457F-B75F-8911151698E8@telusplanet.net> Not sure how many in Roverland have seen these: Nice video about the 2000TC David LaChance bought from Glen Wilson in 2008 http://www.hemmings.com/users/140338/video/81.html David also has an ongoing blog about this car as the Rover Time thread in Hemmings blogs: http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2008/02/28/rover-time/ http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2008/10/30/rover-time-part-ii/ http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2008/11/13/rover-time-part-iii-the-engine-goes-home-again/ http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2008/12/01/rover-time-part-iv-retrieving-the-parts-car/ http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2008/12/29/rover-time-part-v-engine-bay-beautification/ http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2009/04/01/rover-time-part-vi-reconnecting-the-hydraulics/ http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2009/05/12/rover-time-part-vii-rebuilding-the-calipers/ http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2009/06/03/rover-time-part-viii-fuel-ignition-and-coolant/ http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2009/09/02/rover-time-part-ix-its-drive-your-rover-to-work-day/ http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2009/09/08/rover-time-part-x-making-a-new-choke-cable/ http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2009/12/03/rover-time-part-xi-to-marthas-vineyard-and-back/ From gofanu at cust.usachoice.net Fri Jan 8 16:08:27 2010 From: gofanu at cust.usachoice.net (Fletcher Millmore) Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 16:08:27 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] US rovers Message-ID: <4B479ECB.2000907@usachoice.net> 2SC, 2TC here. One of each scrap, others possibly fixable if any body is crazy enough! FRM From nathanobuch at yahoo.com Fri Jan 8 22:19:23 2010 From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com (Nathan Obuch) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 19:19:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover Video and blogs on Hemmings site In-Reply-To: <61CAB779-AA8A-457F-B75F-8911151698E8@telusplanet.net> Message-ID: <846880.15335.qm@web110314.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Thanks, Roy. That was a nice group of links. Nathan --- On Fri, 1/8/10, Roy Babiuk <rababiuk at telusplanet.net> wrote: > From: Roy Babiuk <rababiuk at telusplanet.net> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover Video and blogs on Hemmings site > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Date: Friday, January 8, 2010, 12:06 PM > > Not sure how many in Roverland have seen these: > > Nice video about the 2000TC David LaChance bought from Glen > Wilson in 2008 > http://www.hemmings.com/users/140338/video/81.html > > David also has an ongoing blog about this car as the Rover > Time thread in Hemmings blogs: > > http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2008/02/28/rover-time/ > http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2008/10/30/rover-time-part-ii/ > http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2008/11/13/rover-time-part-iii-the-engine-goes-home-again/ > http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2008/12/01/rover-time-part-iv-retrieving-the-parts-car/ > http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2008/12/29/rover-time-part-v-engine-bay-beautification/ > http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2009/04/01/rover-time-part-vi-reconnecting-the-hydraulics/ > http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2009/05/12/rover-time-part-vii-rebuilding-the-calipers/ > http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2009/06/03/rover-time-part-viii-fuel-ignition-and-coolant/ > http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2009/09/02/rover-time-part-ix-its-drive-your-rover-to-work-day/ > http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2009/09/08/rover-time-part-x-making-a-new-choke-cable/ > http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2009/12/03/rover-time-part-xi-to-marthas-vineyard-and-back/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest > mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > From geffandjulie at comcast.net Sat Jan 9 14:52:24 2010 From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (geffandjulie at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 19:52:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] US rovers In-Reply-To: <4B479ECB.2000907@usachoice.net> Message-ID: <2057998262.9836251263066744157.JavaMail.root@sz0138a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> There are 3 or 4 P6 here in Portland OR, plus one known P4, and Slats' P5. I have not seen any SD-1. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fletcher Millmore" <gofanu at cust.usachoice.net> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Friday, January 8, 2010 1:08:27 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] US rovers 2SC, 2TC here. One of each scrap, others possibly fixable if any body is crazy enough! FRM _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100109/a4af0dd2/attachment.html> From magnet at roverclub.org Sat Jan 9 16:03:24 2010 From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet) Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 16:03:24 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] US rovers In-Reply-To: <2057998262.9836251263066744157.JavaMail.root@sz0138a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <2057998262.9836251263066744157.JavaMail.root@sz0138a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP5558951EFE0A307858B0B3916F0@phx.gbl> Seems as if most of the Rovers left in the US are P6s -- does anyone know how many were imported? As of February '09, the "Where Are They Now?" page on my P4 site (http://home.ican.net/~magnet/p4/whereblk.htm) had entries from 21 owners of the various Rover P4 models in the U.S. Cheers, -- BD ======================================= geffandjulie at comcast.net wrote: > There are 3 or 4 P6 here in Portland OR, plus one known P4, and Slats' > P5. I have not seen any SD-1. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fletcher Millmore" <gofanu at cust.usachoice.net> > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Sent: Friday, January 8, 2010 1:08:27 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] US rovers > > 2SC, 2TC here. One of each scrap, others possibly fixable if any body is > crazy enough! > > FRM > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca From den at aachenkennels.com Sat Jan 9 18:05:18 2010 From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 08:05:18 +0900 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] US rovers References: <2057998262.9836251263066744157.JavaMail.root@sz0138a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <BLU0-SMTP5558951EFE0A307858B0B3916F0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081B23@Server.adoptsec.local> Are there any P2 or pre WWII Rovers over there. When did they start to sell Rovers in the US.? Den. Seems as if most of the Rovers left in the US are P6s -- does anyone know how many were imported? As of February '09, the "Where Are They Now?" page on my P4 site (http://home.ican.net/~magnet/p4/whereblk.htm) had entries from 21 owners of the various Rover P4 models in the U.S. Cheers, -- BD From MarkCoorparoo at aol.com Sun Jan 10 00:24:08 2010 From: MarkCoorparoo at aol.com (MarkCoorparoo at aol.com) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 00:24:08 EST Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] C.L.R. and Blueing Message-ID: <bdb.56edaece.387abe78@aol.com> Hi All, New year over, trying to catch up again. Back in the Lorry, I've either had it strapped on or have been sweating around (or over) it for 47 and a half hours, round town so far and I still have Friday to go. Early Finish today (thursday). Spotted a very original looking, shiny (BRG?) P6b in traffic on Tuesday, will have to get the details of that and a few others away to Rudiger. Dave South Oz, checked out the MSDS and have dug out my 6th Ed. of the Oz DG Code. The 7th has been around for a year or so but I don't have it. I haven't renewed my bulk DG licence for about 10 years. U.N. # 2967 Sulfamic Acid. Crystals. In the presence of water, corrosive to most metals. Sounds Good ! Does Iron and Steel survive? I've carted this stuff (substance). Glycolic Acid doesn't appear as that in the DG Code, although Glyceryl trinitrate solution - NITROGLYCERIN - appears two lines above where it should be (without a U.N. number). "Trinitrate" is that TNT, also once a good local Transport Company started by Ken Thomas in Sydney? Now based in Holland? The company that is, Ken is dead. (Carked it in the noughties). (Just Jokin' about trinitrate). So I took a punt on U.N. 1184 Glycol dichoride and U.N. 2252 Glycol dimethyether. Along the way I found some Brand names, Corsolve and Cellosolve. Sounds like the additive to CLR. There is also Citric Acid, which does various weird things including turning milk into cheese and surfectants that make the rubbish float to the top. The surfactants might also include the bulk base soap substance the name of which I forget. It is not DG but if you breath it you will sneeze, big time. Flaking out Thursday, try to finish Friday. Sunday Morning. Thanks Eric about the Calgon info. I remember my dad telling me what the basic substance is and its initial use as an additive to Boiler Water to prevent scale formation. Don't know if it would be of any use in a hot tank type setup. Dave South Oz, checked the MSDS and noted that Calgon is incompatable with Ally and Mag. Maybe it has a place in the BBQ top blueing - hot tank. Noted that it is largely Potassium Sulfate. Found Potassium Sulfide in the DG Code U.N. #1382 which looks a bit nasty. Hopefully they are a bit different. Slats, I checked the HotFlash site. Their Parkerising and Blueing process seems to be the closest to what I saw Gary doing almost 40 years ago. The area he was working in was very clean as he was always hosing it down. I would imagine he was also hosing the parts to remove the solutions. Den, it would be interesting to build a small Blueing plant. I will put that into the future projects department. Regards All, MWJ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100110/cf756859/attachment.html> From lingfield51 at btopenworld.com Sun Jan 10 04:39:26 2010 From: lingfield51 at btopenworld.com (Partviking) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:39:26 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] US rovers In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP5558951EFE0A307858B0B3916F0@phx.gbl> References: <2057998262.9836251263066744157.JavaMail.root@sz0138a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <BLU0-SMTP5558951EFE0A307858B0B3916F0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <490499.16695.qm@web86007.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Bill, have you considered putting this request on the P4 Guild Forum (link below) and in the Guild mag? I am sure you will be inundated with replies and it may help close any gaps. I know Rudiger has done a huge service to the P6 community in building a database of P6's so a similar P4 and perhaps P5 database is long overdue. Whilst clubs have records of members cars it's the non-members that seem to slip the net http://www.roverp4dg.org.uk/phpBB2/ Regards Alan Francis (partviking) ________________________________ From: Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Saturday, 9 January, 2010 21:03:24 Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] US rovers Seems as if most of the Rovers left in the US are P6s -- does anyone know how many were imported? As of February '09, the "Where Are They Now?" page on my P4 site (http://home.ican.net/~magnet/p4/whereblk.htm) had entries from 21 owners of the various Rover P4 models in the U.S. Cheers, -- BD ======================================= geffandjulie at comcast.net wrote: > There are 3 or 4 P6 here in Portland OR, plus one known P4, and Slats' > P5. I have not seen any SD-1. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fletcher Millmore" <gofanu at cust.usachoice.net> > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Sent: Friday, January 8, 2010 1:08:27 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] US rovers > > 2SC, 2TC here. One of each scrap, others possibly fixable if any body is > crazy enough! > > FRM > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100110/303e7915/attachment.html> From peter_m at amnet.net.au Sun Jan 10 08:40:17 2010 From: peter_m at amnet.net.au (Peter Mitchell) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 21:40:17 +0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] US Rovers- Suggest Use Official Registration Records? In-Reply-To: <61CAB779-AA8A-457F-B75F-8911151698E8@telusplanet.net> References: <61CAB779-AA8A-457F-B75F-8911151698E8@telusplanet.net> Message-ID: <002101ca91fa$73161900$59424b00$@net.au> I wonder if a request to a sample of the registration authorities might provide an idea of those Rovers still registered. Having said that I don't know whether your county or state authorities handle do the vehicle registrations, if it is counties it might be a tedious job. There would surely not be privacy issues; you would after all be seeking only numbers and year of manufacture. Peter Mitchell E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.14090 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ From RoverP6 at gmx.de Sun Jan 10 09:12:30 2010 From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:12:30 +0100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] US Rovers- Suggest Use OfficialRegistration Records? References: <61CAB779-AA8A-457F-B75F-8911151698E8@telusplanet.net> <002101ca91fa$73161900$59424b00$@net.au> Message-ID: <7CF195D196AC42FE93536253F7E39E42@rw> Overhere in Germany it?s not possible to get the correct number of still existing P6s - see my website http://www.roverp6.info/BestandGB.htm Rudiger -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: "Peter Mitchell" <peter_m at amnet.net.au> An: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. Januar 2010 14:40 Betreff: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] US Rovers- Suggest Use OfficialRegistration Records? >I wonder if a request to a sample of the registration authorities might > provide an idea of those Rovers still registered. Having said that I don't > know whether your county or state authorities handle do the vehicle > registrations, if it is counties it might be a tedious job. There would > surely not be privacy issues; you would after all be seeking only numbers > and year of manufacture. > > Peter Mitchell > > > > > > E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.1.441) > Database version: 6.14090 > http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From sharrigan2000tc at gmail.com Sun Jan 10 11:42:16 2010 From: sharrigan2000tc at gmail.com (Sean Harrigan) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 08:42:16 -0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Pics Message-ID: <beb7b151001100842l5d36f384q3e9a5d790363535@mail.gmail.com> Hi All....here's the links to the pics i took this weekend of the 4 rovers that need to find new homes. http://picasaweb.google.com/harrigandesign/RoverYellow?feat=directlink http://picasaweb.google.com/harrigandesign/3500?feat=directlink http://picasaweb.google.com/harrigandesign/RoverBrown?feat=directlink http://picasaweb.google.com/harrigandesign/RoverGreen?feat=directlink bring any and all offers. i have other spares that i forgot too photograph also... let me know what you need. Sean Harrigan 951 500 6360 sean at plascorinc.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100110/c73fb775/attachment.html> From phing at videotron.ca Sun Jan 10 16:14:54 2010 From: phing at videotron.ca (Patrick Hiron) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 16:14:54 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] No News in 2010 Message-ID: <000001ca9239$f4c6a250$de53e6f0$@ca> Hi What's happening out there?? I've received no Rover e mail since 2/01/2010 . Not a good way to start the year . Cheers Patrick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100110/09841417/attachment.html> From goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com Sun Jan 10 16:21:05 2010 From: goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com (Dennis Brooks) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:21:05 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] No News in 2010 In-Reply-To: <000001ca9239$f4c6a250$de53e6f0$@ca> References: <000001ca9239$f4c6a250$de53e6f0$@ca> Message-ID: <COL114-W12D408B5366FA7A48CC5B9DE6E0@phx.gbl> Here's some news... My '71 P6B is sitting out in the snow for the first time in more years than I can recall...not something I consider as being good news but since the news here is indeed a little slim I thought I would share. Happy new years to all !! From: phing at videotron.ca To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 16:14:54 -0500 CC: oldrovers at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] No News in 2010 Hi What?s happening out there?? I?ve received no Rover e mail since 2/01/2010 . Not a good way to start the year . Cheers Patrick _________________________________________________________________ Reinvent how you stay in touch with the new Windows Live Messenger. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9706116 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100110/cea0ed62/attachment.html> From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sun Jan 10 16:59:24 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 13:59:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] No News in 2010 In-Reply-To: <000001ca9239$f4c6a250$de53e6f0$@ca> References: <000001ca9239$f4c6a250$de53e6f0$@ca> Message-ID: <937876.82266.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> You've been in Nunavut, surely. (Or is that "none of it" :-) There have been Rovernet messages on January, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and, of course 10, 2010 Eric PS: There is nothing wrong with your relationship with the server (it had a few glasses of bubbly though, but reports no trouble with you. That's not to say that you won't *cause* trouble..... :-) but the server says there is no technical trouble at *his* end :-) "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ________________________________ From: Patrick Hiron <phing at videotron.ca> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Cc: oldrovers at yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, January 10, 2010 1:14:54 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] No News in 2010 Hi What?s happening out there?? I?ve received no Rover e mail since 2/01/2010 . Not a good way to start the year . Cheers Patrick __________________________________________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100110/885164a8/attachment.html> From slatskars at comcast.net Sun Jan 10 20:13:10 2010 From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 01:13:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Question In-Reply-To: <937876.82266.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <385943924.9722841263172390100.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Eric, Do you or anyone else out there happen to have the dates form the Western Washington (Bellvue ?) ABFM? I have a cousin visiting the Seattle area, in August, and thought that he might enjoy that, if the dates connect. He is a car guy, but not Rovers (Checkers). Slats -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100111/37919382/attachment.html> From den at aachenkennels.com Sun Jan 10 20:29:08 2010 From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 10:29:08 +0900 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Blueing of old rover Tools Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081B4C@Server.adoptsec.local> Anyone heard of using potassium permanganate Condies crystals From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Eric Russell Sent: Wednesday, 30 December 2009 10:10 AM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Blueing of old rover Tools Here's a video of a product being demonstrated: http://www.shootersolutions.com/vaningunblu.html Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ________________________________ From: Dennis Gallacher <den at aachenkennels.com> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 3:12:32 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Blueing of old rover Tools Good morning All, I have managed to find a few more tools for the P2 special tool tray. Unfortunately both the pliers and adjustable where sized solid with rust. After a few hours soak in a super product for us in Oz called CLR ( Calcium, lime, & Rust remover ) I?ve been able to get them moving again and in the case of the adjustable , stripped down. I have given them a low pressure sand blast then finished off with a short high pressure to peen the surface however would now like to metal blue them or blacken them so as they look kind of original. The last time I had anything to do with blueing metal was way back in the 60s as an apprentice. As I recall you have to heat the metal and dunk it in a solution of something or other? or boil them in the same ( or perhaps something more modern) chemical. So pliers and adjustable need to be blackened or blued and the spanners need to be...??? need help here to chaps.!!! Anyone help with a few ideas or perhaps more knowledge them I have on this subject so may have a different approach. All the very best to all you Rover Lads and Lasses for the new year. Den Gallacher. PS This CLR is really very good stuff. I am in the process of tiling and refurbishing the laundry for the good lady indoors. As per normal the washing machine taps have not moved in over 10 years and seized solid. An overnight soak in this stuff and they are the same as if I had just bought them, shiny chrome, no sign of crap anywhere, easy to turn on & off, plus the plastic looks fantastic. Wonder what it would do to a bit of ally such as in S.U.s?. I?ll let you know soon as experiment a bit more. ________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! <http://www.flickr.com/gift/> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Try him at: Neil Webb <NAWebb at aol.com>; Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ________________________________ From: "slatskars at comcast.net" <slatskars at comcast.net> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Sun, January 10, 2010 5:13:10 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Question Eric, Do you or anyone else out there happen to have the dates form the Western Washington (Bellvue ?) ABFM? I have a cousin visiting the Seattle area, in August, and thought that he might enjoy that, if the dates connect. He is a car guy, but not Rovers (Checkers). Slats __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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He is a car guy, but not Rovers (Checkers). Slats -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100111/e98f89a9/attachment.html> From slatskars at comcast.net Mon Jan 11 01:42:28 2010 From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 06:42:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Question In-Reply-To: <559896.42786.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1919894828.9811811263192148201.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Thanks Eric. I will contact him. Slats ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 6:25:21 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Question Our front man for the WW Meet is Neil Webb. Try him at: Neil Webb <NAWebb at aol.com>; Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) From: "slatskars at comcast.net" <slatskars at comcast.net> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Sun, January 10, 2010 5:13:10 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Question Eric, Do you or anyone else out there happen to have the dates form the Western Washington (Bellvue ?) ABFM? I have a cousin visiting the Seattle area, in August, and thought that he might enjoy that, if the dates connect. He is a car guy, but not Rovers (Checkers). Slats The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! 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Phone and Fax: + 61- 3 - 9563 3023 http://www.xe.net/pca/ (Currency Converter) From peterhut at activ8.net.au Mon Jan 11 20:13:59 2010 From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:13:59 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P2 for sale In-Reply-To: <1C114A17638545059990545410D92166@userpc> References: <1C114A17638545059990545410D92166@userpc> Message-ID: <q4jnk5toiikeitqfao6sp21pdlgtn730oh@4ax.com> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 11:17:50 +1100, you wrote: >Someone sent me an email with a P2 6 light they have for sale in >Shellharbour NSW, anyone interested, email him at max at twyfords.com.au needs >restoring. You can see the details on our Rovers For Sale page http://www.rovercarclubaust.asn.au/carads.htm Cheers, Peter Huttemeier Webmaster Rover Car Club of Australia Inc http://www.rovercarclubaust.asn.au/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/ From peter_m at amnet.net.au Tue Jan 12 03:39:34 2010 From: peter_m at amnet.net.au (Peter Mitchell) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:39:34 +0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Patrick Hiron's NADA P63500S- photo in Practical Classics Dec 2009 Message-ID: <000301ca9362$c539ad50$4fad07f0$@net.au> In my just-received copy of 'Practical Classics' (UK) page 52 there is a very nice photo of Patrick's lovely P6 3500S together with information supplied by him. Great car, Patrick! Regards, Peter Mitchell E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.14110 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100112/461f9b8a/attachment.html> From markcoorparoo at aol.com Tue Jan 12 04:39:37 2010 From: markcoorparoo at aol.com (markcoorparoo at aol.com) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 04:39:37 EST Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] US Rovers- Suggest Use Official Registration R... Message-ID: <1e6.6dfcc432.387d9d59@aol.com> Hi Peter, Rudiger and all, I have met a number of previous Transport Ministers here in Oz. The only bloke, revise "Person", I might get any traction with is currently Deputy Premier of Queensland. I seem to bump into him every year or so, occaisonally having a little bit of a "yak". The bloke after him was a dill, so they made him Speaker. The young lady who now has the task is still learning. I am yet to ascertain whether she is in some form of marriage or not. If she isn't, I am really going to have make some efforts to offer her advice about her Portfolio. She is cute and lives within 40 minutes. I am less than 15 minutes from State Parliament.. Where were we.. If I catch up with the former Transport Minister ( his current Job is like Deputy Governor of a State in the US ), I will try and raise the matter of Car Clubs attempting to contact potential members via Data-Bases held by the State. Can't promise anything but hope to face to face the bloke within the first half of this year, if he shows up to support his supporters. I will make it an ongoing project. Will report back, this might take years. Regards, MWJ. P.S. I have Pictures. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1262797206.17717.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> References: <mailman.1.1262797206.17717.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <SNT105-W4491C6B0F6D85A2AF63F1A8E6C0@phx.gbl> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/1546413895.html I just spotted this one on Seattle Craigslist. Its kind of over the other side of the country for me, but for $500 even if the car was too far gone the parts would more than cover the purchase price and some shipping for someone a bit more local. James. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft?s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100112/916602bc/attachment.html> From irishrover1 at sympatico.ca Tue Jan 12 20:46:23 2010 From: irishrover1 at sympatico.ca (BEN RODGERS) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:46:23 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover TC Spark Plugs References: <mailman.1.1262797206.17717.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <SNT105-W4491C6B0F6D85A2AF63F1A8E6C0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP100DE807EE7DD2BBDE7DC2F956B0@phx.gbl> hi Folks I'm in the process of changing my plugs on the 1971 TC series two. The plugs in the car at present are NGK BPR6ES. Are these the best plugs to use or should I change to a different brand, I've had no trouble with them to date. Also I recently installed Petronix ignition and if I remember correctly the plug gap should be 35. 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100112/a38778e8/attachment.html> From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Wed Jan 13 22:01:23 2010 From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:01:23 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover TC Spark Plugs In-Reply-To: <mailman.11.1263402013.13575.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> References: <mailman.11.1263402013.13575.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <SNT105-W12D1216B4540D9D32F2F778E6A0@phx.gbl> > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:46:23 -0400 > From: "BEN RODGERS" <irishrover1 at sympatico.ca> > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover TC Spark Plugs > Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP100DE807EE7DD2BBDE7DC2F956B0 at phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > hi Folks > I'm in the process of changing my plugs on the 1971 TC series two. The plugs in the car at present are NGK BPR6ES. Are these the best plugs to use or should I change to a different brand, I've had no trouble with them to date. Also I recently installed Petronix ignition and if I remember correctly the plug gap should be 35. > Cheers Ben (irishrover) > ************* Originally Rover recommended Champion N6Y for the TC motor. Later they changed their recommendation to N7Y, which is a slightly hotter plug. N6Y crosses to a BP8ES in NGK. NGK recommends BP6ES. (The R just means resistor). If you have no plug fouling issues and your motor suffers from no pre ignition then the plug you have is fine, and I would stick with them. If you have plug fouling issues then you might want to consider a BPR6EIX, fine wire platinum plugs. Some members here have reported good results with those plugs with pertronics. Conversely I found those plugs always fouled on cylinder 3 on my TC, and I have been running an Autolite APP63 on that cylinder only with success. I have compression tested my motor, and number 3 has the highest compression, so work that one out for you! My ignition system uses points, and a high energy coil. The correct plug for your motor is affected to some degree by the type of driving which you do, the fuel quality, and I suspect that motor operating temperature affects things as well, and this is deterimined by which thermostat you have in the motor. Rover recommended 170 degree F thermostat, which are hard to get these days, so people either run at 180 degrees or 160 degrees. The later motors with emissions control tend to run a little warmer, which might suggest a cooler plug. Hence the is no "correct" plug you need to experiment a little bit if you have a problem. Bad leads or a tired ignition coil can cause fouling issues as well. So can short running. Since you have no probs, then stick with BPR6ES. 35 thou sounds right to me. James. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft?s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100113/6ad841a6/attachment.html> From vmitps at netspace.net.au Wed Jan 13 22:05:19 2010 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (vmitps at netspace.net.au) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:05:19 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover TC Spark Plugs In-Reply-To: <SNT105-W12D1216B4540D9D32F2F778E6A0@phx.gbl> References: <mailman.11.1263402013.13575.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <SNT105-W12D1216B4540D9D32F2F778E6A0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <1263438319.4b4e89ef422dc@webmail.netspace.net.au> Conversely I found those plugs always fouled on cylinder 3 > on my TC, and I have been running an Autolite APP63 on that cylinder only > with success. I have compression tested my motor, and number 3 has the > highest compression, so work that one out for you! My ignition system uses > points, and a high energy coil. Number 2 and 3 run richer than 1 and 4, so is it possible your rear carb is richer than the front, making 3 the richest cylinder? PVS ------------------------------------------------------------ This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au From irishrover1 at sympatico.ca Thu Jan 14 08:20:33 2010 From: irishrover1 at sympatico.ca (BEN RODGERS) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:20:33 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover TC Spark Plugs References: <mailman.11.1263402013.13575.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <SNT105-W12D1216B4540D9D32F2F778E6A0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP93FB8B80CFA78ABB7E7C9D956A0@phx.gbl> Hi James Thamks for the info, great advice. 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In-Reply-To: <000001ca9725$af5ca930$0e15fb90$@ca> References: <000001ca9725$af5ca930$0e15fb90$@ca> Message-ID: <000d01ca9728$f6476300$e2d62900$@net.au> Hi Patrick, life has been going on since 1/1/2010- you must have had a glitch that cut you off Rovernet. I even lodged a compliment about your car being featured in the UK magazine 'Practical Classics'. Peter Mitchell From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Patrick Hiron Sent: Sunday, 17 January 2010 11:32 AM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Excommunication ?? Hi I have received nothing from Rovernet since 1 / 1 2010 . What's happening out there ?? Has every one stopped work on their cars . Has the fire wall of China purged my e mail ?? . Please let me know ! Cheers Patrick E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.14140 http://www.pctools.com/internet-security/ <http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/> E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.14140 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100117/7aa11b68/attachment.html> From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sun Jan 17 01:45:07 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:45:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Excommunication ?? In-Reply-To: <000001ca9725$af5ca930$0e15fb90$@ca> References: <000001ca9725$af5ca930$0e15fb90$@ca> Message-ID: <831341.50038.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Patrick, There is nothing on the server that suggests there is a problem with your account. The server will receive a message, scan down the list of all subscribers and send out the same message. If, at your end, your Internet Provider (in this case "videotron.ca"), decides that the same message looks like you are on a list of many recipients, a filter could determine that email from <rovernet.ca> is likely to be SPAM and filter it for you. You'll never see it (just like I do all the time with SPAM that attempts to breach the Great Wall of Rovernet). We like to use the word .......... Discard..... :-) I have sent a copy to both Rovernet and to your own address. If you only get ONE copy of this message, call your ISP and ask them to allow email from <rovernet.ca>. Complain, shake your fist, rattle their chains ............ :-) Good luck with that ........... You can check on past archives via the website and your email address as member. If you forgot your Password, there is a button to click to have the server send you one. Eric List Admin. "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ________________________________ From: Patrick Hiron <phing at videotron.ca> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Sat, January 16, 2010 7:32:24 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Excommunication ?? Hi I have received nothing from Rovernet since 1 / 1 2010 . What?s happening out there ?? Has every one stopped work on their cars . Has the fire wall of China purged my e mail ?? . Please let me know ! Cheers Patrick __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100116/add989d9/attachment.html> From David.Moorefield at msj.org Sun Jan 17 10:01:26 2010 From: David.Moorefield at msj.org (David L Moorefield) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:01:26 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Eric..Triva, for Everyone/The New Movie "The Book of Eli" Is one of Denzel Washington's best... References: <000001ca9725$af5ca930$0e15fb90$@ca> <831341.50038.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6249C5C744A3CD4BAB36E65B67304F41020ACF27@EMAIL1C.MSJ.ORG> Two scenes in the movie shows him ducking down behind an old Rover (Very Clearly) ..How bout it fans which model could it Be???...:O) _____ From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca on behalf of Eric Russell Sent: Sun 1/17/2010 1:45 AM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Excommunication ?? Patrick, There is nothing on the server that suggests there is a problem with your account. The server will receive a message, scan down the list of all subscribers and send out the same message. If, at your end, your Internet Provider (in this case "videotron.ca"), decides that the same message looks like you are on a list of many recipients, a filter could determine that email from <rovernet.ca> is likely to be SPAM and filter it for you. You'll never see it (just like I do all the time with SPAM that attempts to breach the Great Wall of Rovernet). We like to use the word .......... Discard..... :-) I have sent a copy to both Rovernet and to your own address. If you only get ONE copy of this message, call your ISP and ask them to allow email from <rovernet.ca>. Complain, shake your fist, rattle their chains ............ :-) Good luck with that ........... You can check on past archives via the website and your email address as member. If you forgot your Password, there is a button to click to have the server send you one. Eric List Admin. "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) _____ From: Patrick Hiron <phing at videotron.ca> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Sat, January 16, 2010 7:32:24 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Excommunication ?? Hi I have received nothing from Rovernet since 1 / 1 2010 . What's happening out there ?? Has every one stopped work on their cars . Has the fire wall of China purged my e mail ?? . Please let me know ! Cheers Patrick _____ Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers.<http://ca.answers.yahoo.com/> ----------------------------------------- This message and its attachments may contain confidential and/or legally-sensitive information that is intended for the sole use of the addressee(s). Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution of the information contained in this message and its attachments is prohibited. If you have received this message or any of its attachments in error, please destroy all originals and copies of the same and notify the sender immediately. From geffandjulie at comcast.net Sun Jan 17 13:49:25 2010 From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:49:25 -0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Eric..Triva, for Everyone/The New Movie "The Book of Eli" Is one of Denzel Washington's best... In-Reply-To: <6249C5C744A3CD4BAB36E65B67304F41020ACF27@EMAIL1C.MSJ.ORG> References: <000001ca9725$af5ca930$0e15fb90$@ca> <831341.50038.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6249C5C744A3CD4BAB36E65B67304F41020ACF27@EMAIL1C.MSJ.ORG> Message-ID: <006b01ca97a5$cad19010$6074b030$@net> In the movie "An Education" a P4 is clearly one of the 6 or 7 vintage cars, and the seducer-hero drives a Bristol. A Jag 340, a Healy 3000, a Mini, and I think a Triumph saloon are also on the '60s roads in the movie. AvMedSafe Geff and Julie McCarthy 677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR 97210 503-241-8468 503-799-3809 mobile -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of David L Moorefield Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:01 AM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Eric..Triva, for Everyone/The New Movie "The Book of Eli" Is one of Denzel Washington's best... Two scenes in the movie shows him ducking down behind an old Rover (Very Clearly) ..How bout it fans which model could it Be???...:O) _____ From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca on behalf of Eric Russell Sent: Sun 1/17/2010 1:45 AM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Excommunication ?? Patrick, There is nothing on the server that suggests there is a problem with your account. The server will receive a message, scan down the list of all subscribers and send out the same message. If, at your end, your Internet Provider (in this case "videotron.ca"), decides that the same message looks like you are on a list of many recipients, a filter could determine that email from <rovernet.ca> is likely to be SPAM and filter it for you. You'll never see it (just like I do all the time with SPAM that attempts to breach the Great Wall of Rovernet). We like to use the word .......... Discard..... :-) I have sent a copy to both Rovernet and to your own address. If you only get ONE copy of this message, call your ISP and ask them to allow email from <rovernet.ca>. Complain, shake your fist, rattle their chains ............ :-) Good luck with that ........... You can check on past archives via the website and your email address as member. If you forgot your Password, there is a button to click to have the server send you one. Eric List Admin. "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) _____ From: Patrick Hiron <phing at videotron.ca> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Sat, January 16, 2010 7:32:24 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Excommunication ?? Hi I have received nothing from Rovernet since 1 / 1 2010 . What's happening out there ?? Has every one stopped work on their cars . Has the fire wall of China purged my e mail ?? . Please let me know ! Cheers Patrick _____ Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers.<http://ca.answers.yahoo.com/> ----------------------------------------- This message and its attachments may contain confidential and/or legally-sensitive information that is intended for the sole use of the addressee(s). Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution of the information contained in this message and its attachments is prohibited. If you have received this message or any of its attachments in error, please destroy all originals and copies of the same and notify the sender immediately. _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sun Jan 17 15:42:05 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 12:42:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Eric..Triva, for Everyone/The New Movie "The Book of Eli" Is one of Denzel Washington's best... In-Reply-To: <006b01ca97a5$cad19010$6074b030$@net> References: <000001ca9725$af5ca930$0e15fb90$@ca> <831341.50038.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6249C5C744A3CD4BAB36E65B67304F41020ACF27@EMAIL1C.MSJ.ORG> <006b01ca97a5$cad19010$6074b030$@net> Message-ID: <37397.10871.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> We watch "Heartbeat" and "The Royal" for a Rover "fix". When another movie or series pops up, Linda is almost as fast at recognizing a Rover, now. Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ----- Original Message ---- From: Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 10:49:25 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Eric..Triva, for Everyone/The New Movie "The Book of Eli" Is one of Denzel Washington's best... In the movie "An Education" a P4 is clearly one of the 6 or 7 vintage cars, and the seducer-hero drives a Bristol. A Jag 340, a Healy 3000, a Mini, and I think a Triumph saloon are also on the '60s roads in the movie. AvMedSafe Geff and Julie McCarthy 677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR 97210 503-241-8468 503-799-3809 mobile -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of David L Moorefield Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:01 AM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Eric..Triva, for Everyone/The New Movie "The Book of Eli" Is one of Denzel Washington's best... Two scenes in the movie shows him ducking down behind an old Rover (Very Clearly) ..How bout it fans which model could it Be???...:O) _____ From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca on behalf of Eric Russell Sent: Sun 1/17/2010 1:45 AM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Excommunication ?? Patrick, There is nothing on the server that suggests there is a problem with your account. The server will receive a message, scan down the list of all subscribers and send out the same message. If, at your end, your Internet Provider (in this case "videotron.ca"), decides that the same message looks like you are on a list of many recipients, a filter could determine that email from <rovernet.ca> is likely to be SPAM and filter it for you. You'll never see it (just like I do all the time with SPAM that attempts to breach the Great Wall of Rovernet). We like to use the word .......... Discard..... :-) I have sent a copy to both Rovernet and to your own address. If you only get ONE copy of this message, call your ISP and ask them to allow email from <rovernet.ca>. Complain, shake your fist, rattle their chains ............ :-) Good luck with that ........... You can check on past archives via the website and your email address as member. If you forgot your Password, there is a button to click to have the server send you one. Eric List Admin. "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) _____ From: Patrick Hiron <phing at videotron.ca> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Sat, January 16, 2010 7:32:24 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Excommunication ?? Hi I have received nothing from Rovernet since 1 / 1 2010 . What's happening out there ?? Has every one stopped work on their cars . Has the fire wall of China purged my e mail ?? . Please let me know ! Cheers Patrick _____ Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers.<http://ca.answers.yahoo.com/> ----------------------------------------- This message and its attachments may contain confidential and/or legally-sensitive information that is intended for the sole use of the addressee(s). Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution of the information contained in this message and its attachments is prohibited. If you have received this message or any of its attachments in error, please destroy all originals and copies of the same and notify the sender immediately. _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ From peterhut at activ8.net.au Sun Jan 17 18:12:06 2010 From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:12:06 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Eric..Triva, for Everyone/The New Movie "The Book of Eli" Is one of Denzel Washington's best... In-Reply-To: <006b01ca97a5$cad19010$6074b030$@net> References: <000001ca9725$af5ca930$0e15fb90$@ca> <831341.50038.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6249C5C744A3CD4BAB36E65B67304F41020ACF27@EMAIL1C.MSJ.ORG> <006b01ca97a5$cad19010$6074b030$@net> Message-ID: <ql57l59lf2ke7dt410jgnq13rg9cokpbh5@4ax.com> On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:49:25 -0800, you wrote: >In the movie "An Education" a P4 is clearly one of the 6 or 7 vintage cars, >and the seducer-hero drives a Bristol. A Jag 340, a Healy 3000, a Mini, and >I think a Triumph saloon are also on the '60s roads in the movie. Speaking of Rovers in Movies/TV. Last night here there was a repeat of The Saint on Pay TV, a 60's series with young Roger Moore before he was cast in James Bond, not sure if it ever was on US TV. The Saint drives a Volvo P1800 Coupe, a very flash car for the time. Last night's episode was all about rallying, and there were a number of TVRs, Mini Cooper S, Lotus Cortinas, Triumph 2000's, and a chocolate brown P6 with a white roof. As well a couple of RR and a Jensen Interceptor appeared as well. The main race car featured was actually a TVR Grantura, although it was portrayed as a one off special. I always play spot the car in these old shows, drives my partner mad!! :-) "Look there is a ...., and there is a ......"!! Cheers, Peter H From dmesmg at juno.com Sun Jan 17 18:20:08 2010 From: dmesmg at juno.com (dmesmg at juno.com) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:20:08 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] test Message-ID: <20100117.182008.2652.0.dmesmg@juno.com> Have not received any notes from Rovernet lately --just quiet out there? Best regards, Dan ____________________________________________________________ Diet Help Cheap Diet Help Tips. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=aJPO8dt6e2yznHOOt0SqFAAAJ1D-XfDw-QK7gtBBLem7vPopAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYQAAAAAA= From den at aachenkennels.com Sun Jan 17 19:08:05 2010 From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:08:05 +0900 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Car Movie References: <000001ca9725$af5ca930$0e15fb90$@ca> <831341.50038.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><6249C5C744A3CD4BAB36E65B67304F41020ACF27@EMAIL1C.MSJ.ORG><006b01ca97a5$cad19010$6074b030$@net> <ql57l59lf2ke7dt410jgnq13rg9cokpbh5@4ax.com> Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081C03@Server.adoptsec.local> Not sure if I have asked this before ( one of the joys of 'oltimersdisease' is meeting new friends every day) Our club is having a movie night soon. What movie would you recommend with old cars in. The last time we had this show we watched the bank job which is about an actual bank robber from the 60s. Den Gallacher From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sun Jan 17 20:16:21 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:16:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] test In-Reply-To: <20100117.182008.2652.0.dmesmg@juno.com> References: <20100117.182008.2652.0.dmesmg@juno.com> Message-ID: <972346.58147.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> When you say "lately" how long do you mean? Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ----- Original Message ---- From: "dmesmg at juno.com" <dmesmg at juno.com> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Cc: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 3:20:08 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] test Have not received any notes from Rovernet lately --just quiet out there? Best regards, Dan ____________________________________________________________ Diet Help Cheap Diet Help Tips. 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Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sun Jan 17 20:16:21 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:16:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] test In-Reply-To: <20100117.182008.2652.0.dmesmg@juno.com> References: <20100117.182008.2652.0.dmesmg@juno.com> Message-ID: <972346.58147.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> When you say "lately" how long do you mean? Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ----- Original Message ---- From: "dmesmg at juno.com" <dmesmg at juno.com> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Cc: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 3:20:08 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] test Have not received any notes from Rovernet lately --just quiet out there? Best regards, Dan ____________________________________________________________ Diet Help Cheap Diet Help Tips. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=aJPO8dt6e2yznHOOt0SqFAAAJ1D-XfDw-QK7gtBBLem7vPopAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYQAAAAAA= _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ From kkinard at att.net Sun Jan 17 20:23:31 2010 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 19:23:31 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Car Movie In-Reply-To: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081C03@Server.adoptsec.local> References: <000001ca9725$af5ca930$0e15fb90$@ca> <831341.50038.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><6249C5C744A3CD4BAB36E65B67304F41020ACF27@EMAIL1C.MSJ.ORG><006b01ca97a5$cad19010$6074b030$@net> <ql57l59lf2ke7dt410jgnq13rg9cokpbh5@4ax.com> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081C03@Server.adoptsec.local> Message-ID: <4B53B813.3010903@att.net> Hi Den, I recommend "The Big Sleep", not the Bogart version but the remake (1978) starring Robert Mitchum, Joan Collins, and Jimmy Stewart. There are several Rovers, including a P5B Coupe that gets shot up and burned and a jam sandwich P6B. Alvis, etc. Roverly, Kent K. Dennis Gallacher wrote: > Not sure if I have asked this before ( one of the joys of > 'oltimersdisease' is meeting new friends every day) Our club is having a > movie night soon. What movie would you recommend with old cars in. The > last time we had this show we watched the bank job which is about an > actual bank robber from the 60s. > > Den Gallacher > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Mon Jan 18 05:52:21 2010 From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:52:21 +0100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema In-Reply-To: <4B53B813.3010903@att.net> References: <000001ca9725$af5ca930$0e15fb90$@ca> <831341.50038.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><6249C5C744A3CD4BAB36E65B67304F41020ACF27@EMAIL1C.MSJ.ORG><006b01ca97a5$cad19010$6074b030$@net> <ql57l59lf2ke7dt410jgnq13rg9cokpbh5@4ax.com><73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081C03@Server.adoptsec.local> <4B53B813.3010903@att.net> Message-ID: <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE301C27008@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel> Hi, you can see a green p6 also in Milou a maggio, a well known french film of Louis Malle, 1989 - 1990. http://www.mymovies.it/dizionario/recensione.asp?id=14891 Best regards, gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Kent Kinard Inviato: luned? 18 gennaio 2010 2.24 A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Car Movie - Rover al cinema Hi Den, I recommend "The Big Sleep", not the Bogart version but the remake (1978) starring Robert Mitchum, Joan Collins, and Jimmy Stewart. There are several Rovers, including a P5B Coupe that gets shot up and burned and a jam sandwich P6B. Alvis, etc. Roverly, Kent K. Dennis Gallacher wrote: > Not sure if I have asked this before ( one of the joys of > 'oltimersdisease' is meeting new friends every day) Our club is having > a movie night soon. What movie would you recommend with old cars in. > The last time we had this show we watched the bank job which is about > an actual bank robber from the 60s. > > Den Gallacher > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Mon Jan 18 06:39:42 2010 From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:39:42 +0100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover p5 on hemmings sports and exotic In-Reply-To: <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE30188D2DC@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel> References: <4B53B813.3010903@att.net> <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE30188D2DC@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel> Message-ID: <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE301C2708D@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel> Hemmings sports and exotic cars, febbraio 2010 Dear friends, I' ve seen a very interesting article abuot Dirk Burrow's Rover p5 in H. Sports , february 2010. In my opinion this is a splendid car, and I' ve seen it was recently restored after may 2008 accident. If possible, I ask Dirk to send some photos about the restoration of the car and some more news about the conditions of the rear part, the boot lid I mean. Did doors close and open normally after the accident? And did you find easily spare parts or did you use a donor car? Please be so kind to let me know! Best regards, gianluca. _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From bsaunders at firstva.com Mon Jan 18 08:22:06 2010 From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:22:06 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Car Movie In-Reply-To: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081C03@Server.adoptsec.local> References: <000001ca9725$af5ca930$0e15fb90$@ca> <831341.50038.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><6249C5C744A3CD4BAB36E65B67304F41020ACF27@EMAIL1C.MSJ.ORG><006b01ca97a5$cad19010$6074b030$@net><ql57l59lf2ke7dt410jgnq13rg9cokpbh5@4ax.com> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081C03@Server.adoptsec.local> Message-ID: <5158968650ED478D8D4E08FDBB345A77@sd1> Hi Den, You might want to look up a movie called "Your Past is showing" with Terry Thomas, Peter Sellers and lots of others that has a P2 DHC in it. Ben Saunders -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Dennis Gallacher Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:08 PM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Car Movie Not sure if I have asked this before ( one of the joys of 'oltimersdisease' is meeting new friends every day) Our club is having a movie night soon. What movie would you recommend with old cars in. The last time we had this show we watched the bank job which is about an actual bank robber from the 60s. Den Gallacher _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From jpsco44 at aol.com Mon Jan 18 11:15:41 2010 From: jpsco44 at aol.com (jpsco44 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:15:41 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema In-Reply-To: <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE301C27008@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel> References: <000001ca9725$af5ca930$0e15fb90$@ca> <831341.50038.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><6249C5C744A3CD4BAB36E65B67304F41020ACF27@EMAIL1C.MSJ.ORG><006b01ca97a5$cad19010$6074b030$@net> <ql57l59lf2ke7dt410jgnq13rg9cokpbh5@4ax.com><73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081C03@Server.adoptsec.local><4B53B813.3010903@att.net> <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE301C27008@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel> Message-ID: <8CC66709D8749B0-1BDC-7D8F@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com> if you want to have fun with cars and movies , check www.ICMDb.org it is a database of cars in movies . enjoy !! jps -----Original Message----- From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Mon, Jan 18, 2010 5:52 am Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema Hi, you can see a green p6 also in Milou a maggio, a well known french film of Louis Malle, 1989 - 1990. http://www.mymovies.it/dizionario/recensione.asp?id=14891 Best regards, gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Kent Kinard Inviato: luned? 18 gennaio 2010 2.24 A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Car Movie - Rover al cinema Hi Den, I recommend "The Big Sleep", not the Bogart version but the remake (1978) starring Robert Mitchum, Joan Collins, and Jimmy Stewart. There are several Rovers, including a P5B Coupe that gets shot up and burned and a jam sandwich P6B. Alvis, etc. Roverly, Kent K. Dennis Gallacher wrote: > Not sure if I have asked this before ( one of the joys of > 'oltimersdisease' is meeting new friends every day) Our club is having > a movie night soon. What movie would you recommend with old cars in. > The last time we had this show we watched the bank job which is about > an actual bank robber from the 60s. > > Den Gallacher > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100118/f0860bcb/attachment.html> From DevlinS at bp.com Mon Jan 18 11:30:52 2010 From: DevlinS at bp.com (Devlin, Stewart (Contractor)) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:30:52 -0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema In-Reply-To: <8CC66709D8749B0-1BDC-7D8F@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com> References: <000001ca9725$af5ca930$0e15fb90$@ca> <831341.50038.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><6249C5C744A3CD4BAB36E65B67304F41020ACF27@EMAIL1C.MSJ.ORG><006b01ca97a5$cad19010$6074b030$@net> <ql57l59lf2ke7dt410jgnq13rg9cokpbh5@4ax.com><73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081C03@Server.adoptsec.local><4B53B813.3010903@att.net><7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE301C27008@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel> <8CC66709D8749B0-1BDC-7D8F@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA15720F412@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com> Try www.IMCDb.org ________________________________ From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of jpsco44 at aol.com Sent: 18 January 2010 16:16 To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema if you want to have fun with cars and movies , check www.ICMDb.org it is a database of cars in movies . enjoy !! jps -----Original Message----- From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Mon, Jan 18, 2010 5:52 am Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema Hi, you can see a green p6 also in Milou a maggio, a well known french film of Louis Malle, 1989 - 1990. http://www.mymovies.it/dizionario/recensione.asp?id=14891 Best regards, gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca <mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca?> ] Per conto di Kent Kinard Inviato: luned? 18 gennaio 2010 2.24 A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Car Movie - Rover al cinema Hi Den, I recommend "The Big Sleep", not the Bogart version but the remake (1978) starring Robert Mitchum, Joan Collins, and Jimmy Stewart. There are several Rovers, including a P5B Coupe that gets shot up and burned and a jam sandwich P6B. Alvis, etc. Roverly, Kent K. Dennis Gallacher wrote: > Not sure if I have asked this before ( one of the joys of > 'oltimersdisease' is meeting new friends every day) Our club is having > a movie night soon. What movie would you recommend with old cars in. > The last time we had this show we watched the bank job which is about > an actual bank robber from the 60s. > > Den Gallacher > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100118/d4f6d4f7/attachment-0001.html> From twfaust at aol.com Mon Jan 18 12:00:47 2010 From: twfaust at aol.com (twfaust at aol.com) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:00:47 EST Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Car Movie Message-ID: <2ffca.4fef3623.3885edbf@aol.com> There is a sci-fi movie from the 90's, I believe "Gattaca". The police cars of the future are Rover P-6's. There is a fleet of them, all black. The protagonist's vehicle of the future is a Citroen convertible from the 70's. Tom Faust -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100118/70e78d33/attachment.html> From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Mon Jan 18 12:08:22 2010 From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:08:22 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clutch interchange for 2000TC In-Reply-To: <5158968650ED478D8D4E08FDBB345A77@sd1> References: <000001ca9725$af5ca930$0e15fb90$@ca> <831341.50038.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><6249C5C744A3CD4BAB36E65B67304F41020ACF27@EMAIL1C.MSJ.ORG><006b01ca97a5$cad19010$6074b030$@net><ql57l59lf2ke7dt410jgnq13rg9cokpbh5@4ax.com> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081C03@Server.adoptsec.local> <5158968650ED478D8D4E08FDBB345A77@sd1> Message-ID: <4B549586.6090000@alum.swarthmore.edu> Hello all, The parts interchange table at the RCCC website ( http://www.roverclub.ca/partsXref.html ) lists "Volvo 140/240, B21 manual" as using the same clutch disk and pressure plate as Rover 2000 SC and TC -- specifically to replace Rover part numbers 561330 (pressure plate) and 561331 (disk). Does anyone have direct experience with this interchange? I'm wondering which Volvo model years apply, because the 140 started in 1968 and the 240 continued to 1993. To fill in some details on the Rover side of the equation from the 1969 parts book, the disk #561331 was used on all SC models after engines 40053528G and 40100042G, and all TC engines after 41503920A and 41501590A. The pressure plate #561330 is for SC engines from 40058905A and 40100084H to the end of suffix H, and for TC engines from 41512552B and 41603746B through the end of suffix C. Later engines use a different pressure plate. Am I right in thinking that the difference is the ring in the center of the clutch that the clutch release bearing sleeve presses against? For further confusion, the September, 1974 parts manual shows only clutch disk number GCP127 and pressure plate number GCC130, and -- typically for this manual -- gives no details as to which engine numbers they fit or which older part numbers they replace. Thanks for any help on this, Steve Manwell From vern at inkspotco.com Mon Jan 18 12:14:59 2010 From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:14:59 -0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clutch interchange for 2000TC In-Reply-To: <4B549586.6090000@alum.swarthmore.edu> References: <000001ca9725$af5ca930$0e15fb90$@ca> <831341.50038.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><6249C5C744A3CD4BAB36E65B67304F41020ACF27@EMAIL1C.MSJ.ORG><006b01ca97a5$cad19010$6074b030$@net><ql57l59lf2ke7dt410jgnq13rg9cokpbh5@4ax.com> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081C03@Server.adoptsec.local> <5158968650ED478D8D4E08FDBB345A77@sd1> <4B549586.6090000@alum.swarthmore.edu> Message-ID: <8509A689-7494-401C-B623-7CEB31507113@inkspotco.com> There was a change on the thickness of the pressure plate actuator plate, the workshop manual gives instructions for modifying early clutch throwout sleeves to suit the later pressure plate. Can't advise on the Volvo interchanges. Yours Vern On 2010-01-18, at 9:08 AM, S Manwell wrote: > Hello all, > > The parts interchange table at the RCCC website ( http://www.roverclub.ca/partsXref.html ) lists "Volvo 140/240, B21 manual" as using the same clutch disk and pressure plate as Rover 2000 SC and TC -- specifically to replace Rover part numbers 561330 (pressure plate) and 561331 (disk). > > Does anyone have direct experience with this interchange? I'm wondering which Volvo model years apply, because the 140 started in 1968 and the 240 continued to 1993. > > To fill in some details on the Rover side of the equation from the 1969 parts book, the disk #561331 was used on all SC models after engines 40053528G and 40100042G, and all TC engines after 41503920A and 41501590A. > The pressure plate #561330 is for SC engines from 40058905A and 40100084H to the end of suffix H, and for TC engines from 41512552B and 41603746B through the end of suffix C. Later engines use a different pressure plate. Am I right in thinking that the difference is the ring in the center of the clutch that the clutch release bearing sleeve presses against? > > For further confusion, the September, 1974 parts manual shows only clutch disk number GCP127 and pressure plate number GCC130, and -- typically for this manual -- gives no details as to which engine numbers they fit or which older part numbers they replace. > > Thanks for any help on this, > > Steve Manwell > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From nathanobuch at yahoo.com Mon Jan 18 13:15:27 2010 From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com (Nathan Obuch) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:15:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clutch interchange for 2000TC In-Reply-To: <4B549586.6090000@alum.swarthmore.edu> Message-ID: <896517.19615.qm@web110307.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Steve, I'm no Volvo expert, but I'm pretty sure the B21 volvo engine was a pushrod engine used only in all the 140 series and the earliest Volvo 240s before they went to the OHC engine. I bet if you check Wikipedia Volvo 240 you'll be able to find the transistion year. (I'm at work and in a hurry or I'd do it for you.) Nathan --- On Mon, 1/18/10, S Manwell <s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu> wrote: > From: S Manwell <s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clutch interchange for 2000TC > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 11:08 AM > Hello all, > > The parts interchange table at the RCCC website (? http://www.roverclub.ca/partsXref.html? )? > lists "Volvo 140/240, B21 manual" as using the same clutch > disk and pressure plate as Rover 2000 SC and TC -- > specifically to replace Rover part numbers 561330 (pressure > plate) and 561331 (disk). > > Does anyone have direct experience with this > interchange?? I'm wondering which Volvo model years > apply, because the 140 started in 1968 and the 240 continued > to 1993. > > To fill in some details on the Rover side of the equation > from the 1969 parts book, the disk #561331 was used on all > SC models after engines 40053528G and 40100042G, and all TC > engines after 41503920A and 41501590A. > The pressure plate #561330 is for SC engines from 40058905A > and 40100084H to the end of suffix H, and for TC engines > from 41512552B and 41603746B through the end of suffix > C.? Later engines use a different pressure plate.? > Am I right in thinking that the difference is the ring in > the center of the clutch that the clutch release bearing > sleeve presses against? > > For further confusion, the September,? 1974 parts > manual shows only clutch disk number GCP127 and pressure > plate number GCC130, and -- typically for this manual -- > gives no details as to which engine numbers they fit or > which older part numbers they replace. > > Thanks for any help on this, > > Steve Manwell > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest > mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > From nathanobuch at yahoo.com Mon Jan 18 13:22:08 2010 From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com (Nathan Obuch) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:22:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clutch interchange for 2000TC In-Reply-To: <4B549586.6090000@alum.swarthmore.edu> Message-ID: <460415.69227.qm@web110309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I take back everything I said! It appears the B21 is the OHC engine used up till '83 on the Volvo 240s. Nathan --- On Mon, 1/18/10, S Manwell <s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu> wrote: > From: S Manwell <s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clutch interchange for 2000TC > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 11:08 AM > Hello all, > > The parts interchange table at the RCCC website (? http://www.roverclub.ca/partsXref.html? )? > lists "Volvo 140/240, B21 manual" as using the same clutch > disk and pressure plate as Rover 2000 SC and TC -- > specifically to replace Rover part numbers 561330 (pressure > plate) and 561331 (disk). > > Does anyone have direct experience with this > interchange?? I'm wondering which Volvo model years > apply, because the 140 started in 1968 and the 240 continued > to 1993. > > To fill in some details on the Rover side of the equation > from the 1969 parts book, the disk #561331 was used on all > SC models after engines 40053528G and 40100042G, and all TC > engines after 41503920A and 41501590A. > The pressure plate #561330 is for SC engines from 40058905A > and 40100084H to the end of suffix H, and for TC engines > from 41512552B and 41603746B through the end of suffix > C.? Later engines use a different pressure plate.? > Am I right in thinking that the difference is the ring in > the center of the clutch that the clutch release bearing > sleeve presses against? > > For further confusion, the September,? 1974 parts > manual shows only clutch disk number GCP127 and pressure > plate number GCC130, and -- typically for this manual -- > gives no details as to which engine numbers they fit or > which older part numbers they replace. > > Thanks for any help on this, > > Steve Manwell > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest > mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon Jan 18 13:22:50 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:22:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Car Movie In-Reply-To: <2ffca.4fef3623.3885edbf@aol.com> References: <2ffca.4fef3623.3885edbf@aol.com> Message-ID: <65932.70253.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My 1969 Rover 2000 TC (Cameron Green) is in Battlestar Gallactica Episode 17 and in a pilot spinoff called "Caprica". Here it is in Gallactica: http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_171129-Rover-2000-TC-P6-1969.html Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ________________________________ From: "twfaust at aol.com" <twfaust at aol.com> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Mon, January 18, 2010 9:00:47 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Car Movie There is a sci-fi movie from the 90's, I believe "Gattaca". The police cars of the future are Rover P-6's. There is a fleet of them, all black. The protagonist's vehicle of the future is a Citroen convertible from the 70's. Tom Faust __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100118/c02df8d1/attachment.html> From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon Jan 18 13:29:17 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:29:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clutch interchange for 2000TC In-Reply-To: <4B549586.6090000@alum.swarthmore.edu> References: <000001ca9725$af5ca930$0e15fb90$@ca> <831341.50038.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><6249C5C744A3CD4BAB36E65B67304F41020ACF27@EMAIL1C.MSJ.ORG><006b01ca97a5$cad19010$6074b030$@net><ql57l59lf2ke7dt410jgnq13rg9cokpbh5@4ax.com> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081C03@Server.adoptsec.local> <5158968650ED478D8D4E08FDBB345A77@sd1> <4B549586.6090000@alum.swarthmore.edu> Message-ID: <285941.35525.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Steve, The early clutch assemblies had a thick pad that the thinner withdrawal sleeve dealt with. The later clutch assembly had only "fingers" to be depressed so the withdrawal sleeve was changed and had its own pad at the end. The overall thickness had to stay about the same. You couldn't put a thick pad withdrawal sleeve with an already padded early clutch assembly. Vern has all these parts in pile 36A-5, location SUB-RM2, Box 32 :-) Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ----- Original Message ---- From: S Manwell <s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Mon, January 18, 2010 9:08:22 AM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clutch interchange for 2000TC Hello all, The parts interchange table at the RCCC website ( http://www.roverclub.ca/partsXref.html ) lists "Volvo 140/240, B21 manual" as using the same clutch disk and pressure plate as Rover 2000 SC and TC -- specifically to replace Rover part numbers 561330 (pressure plate) and 561331 (disk). Does anyone have direct experience with this interchange? I'm wondering which Volvo model years apply, because the 140 started in 1968 and the 240 continued to 1993. To fill in some details on the Rover side of the equation from the 1969 parts book, the disk #561331 was used on all SC models after engines 40053528G and 40100042G, and all TC engines after 41503920A and 41501590A. The pressure plate #561330 is for SC engines from 40058905A and 40100084H to the end of suffix H, and for TC engines from 41512552B and 41603746B through the end of suffix C. Later engines use a different pressure plate. Am I right in thinking that the difference is the ring in the center of the clutch that the clutch release bearing sleeve presses against? For further confusion, the September, 1974 parts manual shows only clutch disk number GCP127 and pressure plate number GCC130, and -- typically for this manual -- gives no details as to which engine numbers they fit or which older part numbers they replace. Thanks for any help on this, Steve Manwell _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. From gbbourque at gmail.com Mon Jan 18 15:48:58 2010 From: gbbourque at gmail.com (garrett bourque) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:48:58 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema In-Reply-To: <8CC66709D8749B0-1BDC-7D8F@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com> References: <000001ca9725$af5ca930$0e15fb90$@ca> <831341.50038.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6249C5C744A3CD4BAB36E65B67304F41020ACF27@EMAIL1C.MSJ.ORG> <006b01ca97a5$cad19010$6074b030$@net> <ql57l59lf2ke7dt410jgnq13rg9cokpbh5@4ax.com> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081C03@Server.adoptsec.local> <4B53B813.3010903@att.net> <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE301C27008@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel> <8CC66709D8749B0-1BDC-7D8F@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <982f148d1001181248x6324079er26a2cb80ec63bfa4@mail.gmail.com> Hello rovernet! The database at www.ICMDb.org <http://www.icmdb.org/> sounds very interesting to look at for both Rover and other types of cars!!! However, I searched for the website and could not open it. Do I have the name wrong somehow? As for Steve's question about Rover 2000 clutch parts, and Volvo 140 numbers matching, try a knowlegable parts person that has suitable parts books. The numbers can be compared easily to see what will fit. Do it by looking up the part nos. of the year and model of both cars to see what is the same! The only one I had here was an SD1 clutch disc and pres. plate. For some reason, I thought I had a 2000 set until I looked at it. Write me if you are still having questions. Good luck! Garrett Bourque gbourque at gmail.com On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:15 AM, <jpsco44 at aol.com> wrote: > if you want to have fun with cars and movies , check www.ICMDb.org<http://www.icmdb.org/> > > it is a database of cars in movies . > > enjoy !! > > jps > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Sent: Mon, Jan 18, 2010 5:52 am > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema > > Hi, > > > you can see a green p6 also in Milou a maggio, a well known french film of > > Louis Malle, 1989 - 1990. > > http://www.mymovies.it/dizionario/recensione.asp?id=14891 > > > Best regards, gianluca. > > > -----Messaggio originale----- > > Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca <rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca?>] Per conto > > di Kent Kinard > > Inviato: luned? 18 gennaio 2010 2.24 > > > A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > > Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Car Movie - Rover al cinema > > > Hi Den, > > I recommend "The Big Sleep", not the Bogart version but the remake > > (1978) starring Robert Mitchum, Joan Collins, and Jimmy Stewart. There are > > several Rovers, including a P5B Coupe that gets shot up and burned and a jam > > sandwich P6B. Alvis, etc. > > > Roverly, > > Kent K. > > > Dennis Gallacher wrote: > > > Not sure if I have asked this before ( one of the joys of > > > 'oltimersdisease' is meeting new friends every day) Our club is having > > > a movie night soon. What movie would you recommend with old cars in. > > > The last time we had this show we watched the bank job which is about > > > an actual bank robber from the 60s. > > > > > > Den Gallacher > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rovernet mailing list > > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100118/4a4ede7e/attachment.html> From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Mon Jan 18 15:56:54 2010 From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:56:54 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clutch interchange for 2000TC In-Reply-To: <460415.69227.qm@web110309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <460415.69227.qm@web110309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B54CB16.5060208@alum.swarthmore.edu> Thanks Nathan, that clarifies the interchange -- apparently the interchange must be with clutches on Volvos with both B20 (140 series pushrod) and B21 (OHC) engines, and some earlier Volvos too. Nathan Obuch wrote: > I take back everything I said! It appears the B21 is the OHC engine used up till '83 on the Volvo 240s. > > Nathan > --- On Mon, 1/18/10, S Manwell <s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu> wrote: > > >> From: S Manwell <s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu> >> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clutch interchange for 2000TC >> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >> Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 11:08 AM >> Hello all, >> >> The parts interchange table at the RCCC website ( http://www.roverclub.ca/partsXref.html ) >> lists "Volvo 140/240, B21 manual" as using the same clutch >> disk and pressure plate as Rover 2000 SC and TC -- >> specifically to replace Rover part numbers 561330 (pressure >> plate) and 561331 (disk). >> >> Does anyone have direct experience with this >> interchange? I'm wondering which Volvo model years >> apply, because the 140 started in 1968 and the 240 continued >> to 1993. >> >> To fill in some details on the Rover side of the equation >> from the 1969 parts book, the disk #561331 was used on all >> SC models after engines 40053528G and 40100042G, and all TC >> engines after 41503920A and 41501590A. >> The pressure plate #561330 is for SC engines from 40058905A >> and 40100084H to the end of suffix H, and for TC engines >> from 41512552B and 41603746B through the end of suffix >> C. Later engines use a different pressure plate. >> Am I right in thinking that the difference is the ring in >> the center of the clutch that the clutch release bearing >> sleeve presses against? >> >> For further confusion, the September, 1974 parts >> manual shows only clutch disk number GCP127 and pressure >> plate number GCC130, and -- typically for this manual -- >> gives no details as to which engine numbers they fit or >> which older part numbers they replace. >> >> Thanks for any help on this, >> >> Steve Manwell >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest >> mode or no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here are the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > From DevlinS at bp.com Mon Jan 18 15:58:27 2010 From: DevlinS at bp.com (Devlin, Stewart (Contractor)) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:58:27 -0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema In-Reply-To: <982f148d1001181248x6324079er26a2cb80ec63bfa4@mail.gmail.com> References: <000001ca9725$af5ca930$0e15fb90$@ca><831341.50038.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><6249C5C744A3CD4BAB36E65B67304F41020ACF27@EMAIL1C.MSJ.ORG><006b01ca97a5$cad19010$6074b030$@net><ql57l59lf2ke7dt410jgnq13rg9cokpbh5@4ax.com><73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081C03@Server.adoptsec.local><4B53B813.3010903@att.net><7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE301C27008@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel><8CC66709D8749B0-1BDC-7D8F@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com> <982f148d1001181248x6324079er26a2cb80ec63bfa4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA15720F413@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com> Try www.IMCDb.org <BLOCKED::http://www.IMCDb.org> instead, there was a typo in the original message. ________________________________ From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of garrett bourque Sent: 18 January 2010 20:49 To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema Hello rovernet! The database at www.ICMDb.org <http://www.icmdb.org/> sounds very interesting to look at for both Rover and other types of cars!!! However, I searched for the website and could not open it. Do I have the name wrong somehow? As for Steve's question about Rover 2000 clutch parts, and Volvo 140 numbers matching, try a knowlegable parts person that has suitable parts books. The numbers can be compared easily to see what will fit. Do it by looking up the part nos. of the year and model of both cars to see what is the same! The only one I had here was an SD1 clutch disc and pres. plate. For some reason, I thought I had a 2000 set until I looked at it. Write me if you are still having questions. Good luck! Garrett Bourque gbourque at gmail.com On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:15 AM, <jpsco44 at aol.com> wrote: if you want to have fun with cars and movies , check www.ICMDb.org <http://www.icmdb.org/> it is a database of cars in movies . enjoy !! jps -----Original Message----- From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Mon, Jan 18, 2010 5:52 am Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema Hi, you can see a green p6 also in Milou a maggio, a well known french film of Louis Malle, 1989 - 1990. http://www.mymovies.it/dizionario/recensione.asp?id=14891 Best regards, gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca <mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca?> ] Per conto di Kent Kinard Inviato: luned? 18 gennaio 2010 2.24 A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Car Movie - Rover al cinema Hi Den, I recommend "The Big Sleep", not the Bogart version but the remake (1978) starring Robert Mitchum, Joan Collins, and Jimmy Stewart. There are several Rovers, including a P5B Coupe that gets shot up and burned and a jam sandwich P6B. Alvis, etc. Roverly, Kent K. Dennis Gallacher wrote: > Not sure if I have asked this before ( one of the joys of > 'oltimersdisease' is meeting new friends every day) Our club is having > a movie night soon. What movie would you recommend with old cars in. > The last time we had this show we watched the bank job which is about > an actual bank robber from the 60s. > > Den Gallacher > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100118/f39951da/attachment-0001.html> From anders at xoz.dk Mon Jan 18 16:02:21 2010 From: anders at xoz.dk (Anders Hedelund) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:02:21 +0100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clutch interchange for 2000TC In-Reply-To: <896517.19615.qm@web110307.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <896517.19615.qm@web110307.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B54CC5D.2030102@xoz.dk> Volvo B21 is 240 OHC. been there, spoiled it, replaced it. http://www.xoz.dk/ahl/auto/PF_Auto/im002365.html ..Anders, Copenhagen From anders at xoz.dk Mon Jan 18 16:05:34 2010 From: anders at xoz.dk (Anders Hedelund) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:05:34 +0100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clutch interchange for 2000TC In-Reply-To: <896517.19615.qm@web110307.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <896517.19615.qm@web110307.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B54CD1E.4080705@xoz.dk> Better picture. This actually is/was a Volvo B21: http://www.xoz.dk/ahl/auto/PF_Auto/dcp01838.html ...ahl From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Mon Jan 18 18:38:30 2010 From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:38:30 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clutch interchange for 2000TC In-Reply-To: <285941.35525.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <000001ca9725$af5ca930$0e15fb90$@ca> <831341.50038.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><6249C5C744A3CD4BAB36E65B67304F41020ACF27@EMAIL1C.MSJ.ORG><006b01ca97a5$cad19010$6074b030$@net><ql57l59lf2ke7dt410jgnq13rg9cokpbh5@4ax.com> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081C03@Server.adoptsec.local> <5158968650ED478D8D4E08FDBB345A77@sd1> <4B549586.6090000@alum.swarthmore.edu> <285941.35525.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B54F0F6.1050405@alum.swarthmore.edu> You never know what may be on-line: Following a lead from Eric, I looked up Quinton-Hazel, and found that they have on-line catalogs for several types of components including clutches here: http://www2.qha.com/catalogues/QH08.pdf For P6 engines up through suffix H (apparently referring to SC), this catalog lists QH part number C714AF for the clutch disk and Q10011 for the pressure plate. For later engines, QH part number C714AF for the clutch disk and Q10027 for the pressure plate. Eric has a QH box for a P6 clutch disk with number C714S for Rover 2000 and 2200 '63 - '77 and Volvo 1800 '65 - '73. The same QH catalog lists the C714AF disk and the Q10027 pressure plate for the following other cars: Volvo 120 series with B18A engine, 1965 - 1967 Volvo 140 series with B20 through B20E engines, 1967 - 1975 Volvo 242/244/245 with B21 OHC engine, 1975 - 1978 (also up to 1984 only for Q10027 pressure plate) Triumph GT6 2.0 liter 4/1966 - 2/1974 Other cars not common in the US: Triumph 2000 and 2500 saloons Vitesse 2.0 12/1965 - 12/1971 Vauxhall VX 2.3 1975 - 1978 --Steve Manwell Eric Russell wrote: > Steve, > The early clutch assemblies had a thick pad that the thinner withdrawal sleeve dealt with. > The later clutch assembly had only "fingers" to be depressed so the withdrawal sleeve was changed and had its own pad at the end. The overall thickness had to stay about the same. You couldn't put a thick pad withdrawal sleeve with an already padded early clutch assembly. Vern has all these parts in pile 36A-5, location SUB-RM2, Box 32 :-) > > Eric > > > > "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) > > > > > From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon Jan 18 19:56:13 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:56:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clutch interchange for 2000TC In-Reply-To: <4B54F0F6.1050405@alum.swarthmore.edu> References: <000001ca9725$af5ca930$0e15fb90$@ca> <831341.50038.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><6249C5C744A3CD4BAB36E65B67304F41020ACF27@EMAIL1C.MSJ.ORG><006b01ca97a5$cad19010$6074b030$@net><ql57l59lf2ke7dt410jgnq13rg9cokpbh5@4ax.com> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081C03@Server.adoptsec.local> <5158968650ED478D8D4E08FDBB345A77@sd1> <4B549586.6090000@alum.swarthmore.edu> <285941.35525.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4B54F0F6.1050405@alum.swarthmore.edu> Message-ID: <405753.19162.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just because us retired folk have the time .......... :-) I searched through the QH database page for the part number of the box flap I have (C714S). That number never appeared. The number given is C714AF So,............ I went back and searched for C714AF and found many applications (not only for Rover but) for a wide variety of Volvo and Triumph. The REAL problem is locating the part and then finding one for a "reasonable" cost (whatever "reasonable" means) :-) Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ----- Original Message ---- From: S Manwell <s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Mon, January 18, 2010 3:38:30 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clutch interchange for 2000TC You never know what may be on-line: Following a lead from Eric, I looked up Quinton-Hazel, and found that they have on-line catalogs for several types of components including clutches here: http://www2.qha.com/catalogues/QH08.pdf For P6 engines up through suffix H (apparently referring to SC), this catalog lists QH part number C714AF for the clutch disk and Q10011 for the pressure plate. For later engines, QH part number C714AF for the clutch disk and Q10027 for the pressure plate. Eric has a QH box for a P6 clutch disk with number C714S for Rover 2000 and 2200 '63 - '77 and Volvo 1800 '65 - '73. The same QH catalog lists the C714AF disk and the Q10027 pressure plate for the following other cars: Volvo 120 series with B18A engine, 1965 - 1967 Volvo 140 series with B20 through B20E engines, 1967 - 1975 Volvo 242/244/245 with B21 OHC engine, 1975 - 1978 (also up to 1984 only for Q10027 pressure plate) Triumph GT6 2.0 liter 4/1966 - 2/1974 Other cars not common in the US: Triumph 2000 and 2500 saloons Vitesse 2.0 12/1965 - 12/1971 Vauxhall VX 2.3 1975 - 1978 --Steve Manwell Eric Russell wrote: > Steve, > The early clutch assemblies had a thick pad that the thinner withdrawal sleeve dealt with. > The later clutch assembly had only "fingers" to be depressed so the withdrawal sleeve was changed and had its own pad at the end. The overall thickness had to stay about the same. You couldn't put a thick pad withdrawal sleeve with an already padded early clutch assembly. Vern has all these parts in pile 36A-5, location SUB-RM2, Box 32 :-) > > Eric > > > > "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) > > > > > _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer? 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Tue Jan 19 04:26:30 2010 From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:26:30 +0100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Clutch interchange for 2000TC In-Reply-To: <4B54CD1E.4080705@xoz.dk> References: <896517.19615.qm@web110307.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4B54CD1E.4080705@xoz.dk> Message-ID: <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE301C56C8E@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel> It looks like a Volvo amazon. Best regards, gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Anders Hedelund Inviato: luned? 18 gennaio 2010 22.06 A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clutch interchange for 2000TC Better picture. This actually is/was a Volvo B21: http://www.xoz.dk/ahl/auto/PF_Auto/dcp01838.html ...ahl _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Tue Jan 19 05:18:45 2010 From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:18:45 +0100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema In-Reply-To: <CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA15720F412@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com> References: <000001ca9725$af5ca930$0e15fb90$@ca> <831341.50038.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><6249C5C744A3CD4BAB36E65B67304F41020ACF27@EMAIL1C.MSJ.ORG><006b01ca97a5$cad19010$6074b030$@net> <ql57l59lf2ke7dt410jgnq13rg9cokpbh5@4ax.com><73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081C03@Server.adoptsec.local><4B53B813.3010903@att.net><7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE301C27008@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel><8CC66709D8749B0-1BDC-7D8F@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com> <CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA15720F412@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com> Message-ID: <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE301C56D52@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel> Thanks, Stewart. Very interesting. Best regards, gianluca. ________________________________ Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Devlin, Stewart (Contractor) Inviato: luned? 18 gennaio 2010 17.31 A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema Try www.IMCDb.org ________________________________ From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of jpsco44 at aol.com Sent: 18 January 2010 16:16 To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema if you want to have fun with cars and movies , check www.ICMDb.org it is a database of cars in movies . enjoy !! jps -----Original Message----- From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Mon, Jan 18, 2010 5:52 am Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema Hi, you can see a green p6 also in Milou a maggio, a well known french film of Louis Malle, 1989 - 1990. http://www.mymovies.it/dizionario/recensione.asp?id=14891 Best regards, gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca <mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca?> ] Per conto di Kent Kinard Inviato: luned? 18 gennaio 2010 2.24 A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Car Movie - Rover al cinema Hi Den, I recommend "The Big Sleep", not the Bogart version but the remake (1978) starring Robert Mitchum, Joan Collins, and Jimmy Stewart. There are several Rovers, including a P5B Coupe that gets shot up and burned and a jam sandwich P6B. Alvis, etc. Roverly, Kent K. Dennis Gallacher wrote: > Not sure if I have asked this before ( one of the joys of > 'oltimersdisease' is meeting new friends every day) Our club is having > a movie night soon. What movie would you recommend with old cars in. > The last time we had this show we watched the bank job which is about > an actual bank robber from the 60s. > > Den Gallacher > > > _______________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100119/390355c7/attachment.html> From anders at xoz.dk Tue Jan 19 05:40:39 2010 From: anders at xoz.dk (Anders Hedelund) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:40:39 +0100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Going from fixing old Volvos to finally doing the P6B In-Reply-To: <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE301C56C8E@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel> References: <896517.19615.qm@web110307.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4B54CD1E.4080705@xoz.dk> <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE301C56C8E@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel> Message-ID: <4B558C27.6050509@xoz.dk> Nope, Gianluca, my Amazon was in mint condition when it was totally wrecked - and color dark blue 96. The B21 belonged to this 244 http://www.xoz.dk/ahl/auto/PF_Auto/im000367.html Btw. the Lancia has found a new home, so this year's ambition is to get the P6B running. It "barely" needs more than having the new body panels fixed. They can be seen when sprayed some 3 or 4 years ago from here http://www.xoz.dk/ahl/auto/PF_Auto/im000068.html Notice that most were sand blasted and hot zinc sprayed before being filled and sprayed as seen - in Arden Green Glasurit as used originally by Rover in 1969 :-) She has been off the road since 1997, so it is about time getting her running again. Wish winter could end, so I can get into the workshop. ...Anders, Copenhagen, Denmark From DevlinS at bp.com Tue Jan 19 06:08:44 2010 From: DevlinS at bp.com (Devlin, Stewart (Contractor)) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:08:44 -0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema In-Reply-To: <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE301C56D52@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel> References: <000001ca9725$af5ca930$0e15fb90$@ca> <831341.50038.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><6249C5C744A3CD4BAB36E65B67304F41020ACF27@EMAIL1C.MSJ.ORG><006b01ca97a5$cad19010$6074b030$@net> <ql57l59lf2ke7dt410jgnq13rg9cokpbh5@4ax.com><73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081C03@Server.adoptsec.local><4B53B813.3010903@att.net><7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE301C27008@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel><8CC66709D8749B0-1BDC-7D8F@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com><CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA15720F412@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com> <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE301C56D52@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel> Message-ID: <CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA15720F416@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com> About 20 years ago my father-in-law wrote a couple of TV series for Yorkshire Television in the UK called 'The Gaffer' which starred a rather beat-up P6. This is not yet on the database but I have the first series on DVD so will find out how to post pictures and add it next time I am at home. There was also a 1936 10 in the first film version of All Creatures Great and Small which is not listed but I am not sure how to get a clip of the car to add to the database. Stewart ________________________________ From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Sent: 19 January 2010 10:19 To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema Thanks, Stewart. Very interesting. Best regards, gianluca. ________________________________ Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Devlin, Stewart (Contractor) Inviato: luned? 18 gennaio 2010 17.31 A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema Try www.IMCDb.org ________________________________ From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of jpsco44 at aol.com Sent: 18 January 2010 16:16 To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema if you want to have fun with cars and movies , check www.ICMDb.org it is a database of cars in movies . enjoy !! jps -----Original Message----- From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Mon, Jan 18, 2010 5:52 am Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema Hi, you can see a green p6 also in Milou a maggio, a well known french film of Louis Malle, 1989 - 1990. http://www.mymovies.it/dizionario/recensione.asp?id=14891 Best regards, gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca <mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca?> ] Per conto di Kent Kinard Inviato: luned? 18 gennaio 2010 2.24 A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Car Movie - Rover al cinema Hi Den, I recommend "The Big Sleep", not the Bogart version but the remake (1978) starring Robert Mitchum, Joan Collins, and Jimmy Stewart. There are several Rovers, including a P5B Coupe that gets shot up and burned and a jam sandwich P6B. Alvis, etc. Roverly, Kent K. Dennis Gallacher wrote: > Not sure if I have asked this before ( one of the joys of > 'oltimersdisease' is meeting new friends every day) Our club is having > a movie night soon. What movie would you recommend with old cars in. > The last time we had this show we watched the bank job which is about > an actual bank robber from the 60s. > > Den Gallacher > > > _______________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100119/2ad34f80/attachment-0001.html> From p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Jan 19 09:16:10 2010 From: p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk (p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:16:10 -0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Car Movie References: <2ffca.4fef3623.3885edbf@aol.com> <65932.70253.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <06880E8C9EE2447E979E8B2F29C45086@SN037535920331> Hi Eric Well seeing as you have your car on imcbd, I thought it was only fair to get mine on as well, so please check out http://www.imcdb.org/movie.php?id=1004510162 for VVC 700S in Joys of Motoring and http://www.imcdb.org/movie_977681-Supergrass.html for YXC 745K in Supergrass All good fun and good promotion for the Rover P6 Cars Speak Soon Warmest Regards Mark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100119/90357f50/attachment.html> From robert at clocksoft.com Tue Jan 19 10:34:04 2010 From: robert at clocksoft.com (Robert Pinner) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:34:04 +0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema In-Reply-To: <CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA15720F416@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com> References: <000001ca9725$af5ca930$0e15fb90$@ca> <831341.50038.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><6249C5C744A3CD4BAB36E65B67304F41020ACF27@EMAIL1C.MSJ.ORG><006b01ca97a5$cad19010$6074b030$@net> <ql57l59lf2ke7dt410jgnq13rg9cokpbh5@4ax.com><73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081C03@Server.adoptsec.local><4B53B813.3010903@att.net><7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE301C27008@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel><8CC66709D8749B0-1BDC-7D8F@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com><CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA15720F412@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com> <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE301C56D52@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel> <CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA15720F416@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com> Message-ID: <4B55D0EC.3030107@clocksoft.com> I hate to admit it, but it was more like thirty years ago. It was fond memories of watching this series as a child that helped me decide to my first car had to be a Rover P6. My friends were all buying minis and Golf GTis. Not liking to follow the crowd, I had narrowed my choice down to either a Triumph GT6 or Rover P6. At the time, the insurance on a GT6 for me, a 19 year, old would have cost 3000.00 pounds, which was more than I could afford at the time. The rest as they say, is history. The car I bought was a Cameron green 1973 2000SC with buckskin interior, God I loved that car. If it's possible, please thank your father in law on my behalf, he has, in no small way, contributed to the last twenty years of my life. Robert Devlin, Stewart (Contractor) wrote: > > About 20 years ago my father-in-law wrote a couple of TV series for > Yorkshire Television in the UK called 'The Gaffer' which starred a > rather beat-up P6. This is not yet on the database but I have the first > series on DVD so will find out how to post pictures and add it next time > I am at home. There was also a 1936 10 in the first film version of All > Creatures Great and Small which is not listed but I am not sure how to > get a clip of the car to add to the database. > > Stewart > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] *On Behalf Of > *gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com > *Sent:* 19 January 2010 10:19 > *To:* rovernet at rovernet.ca > *Subject:* [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema > > Thanks, Stewart. > Very interesting. > > Best regards, gianluca. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Da:* rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > *Per conto di *Devlin, Stewart (Contractor) > *Inviato:* luned? 18 gennaio 2010 17.31 > *A:* The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > *Oggetto:* Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema > > > > > Try www.IMCDb.org <http://www.IMCDb.org> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] *On Behalf Of *jpsco44 at aol.com > *Sent:* 18 January 2010 16:16 > *To:* rovernet at rovernet.ca > *Subject:* Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema > > if you want to have fun with cars and movies , check www.ICMDb.org > > it is a database of cars in movies . > > enjoy !! > > jps > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Sent: Mon, Jan 18, 2010 5:52 am > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema > > Hi, > > > > you can see a green p6 also in Milou a maggio, a well known french film of > > Louis Malle, 1989 - 1990. > > > > http://www.mymovies.it/dizionario/recensione.asp?id=14891 > > > > Best regards, gianluca. > > > > -----Messaggio originale----- > > Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca <mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca <mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca?>] Per conto > > di Kent Kinard > > Inviato: luned? 18 gennaio 2010 2.24 > > A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > > Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Car Movie - Rover al cinema > > > > Hi Den, > > I recommend "The Big Sleep", not the Bogart version but the remake > > (1978) starring Robert Mitchum, Joan Collins, and Jimmy Stewart. There are > > several Rovers, including a P5B Coupe that gets shot up and burned and a jam > > sandwich P6B. Alvis, etc. > > > > Roverly, > > Kent K. > > > > Dennis Gallacher wrote: > >> Not sure if I have asked this before ( one of the joys of > >> 'oltimersdisease' is meeting new friends every day) Our club is having > >> a movie night soon. What movie would you recommend with old cars in. > >> The last time we had this show we watched the bank job which is about > >> an actual bank robber from the 60s. > >> > >> Den Gallacher > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From DevlinS at bp.com Tue Jan 19 10:59:58 2010 From: DevlinS at bp.com (Devlin, Stewart (Contractor)) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:59:58 -0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema In-Reply-To: <4B55D0EC.3030107@clocksoft.com> References: <000001ca9725$af5ca930$0e15fb90$@ca> <831341.50038.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><6249C5C744A3CD4BAB36E65B67304F41020ACF27@EMAIL1C.MSJ.ORG><006b01ca97a5$cad19010$6074b030$@net> <ql57l59lf2ke7dt410jgnq13rg9cokpbh5@4ax.com><73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081C03@Server.adoptsec.local><4B53B813.3010903@att.net><7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE301C27008@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel><8CC66709D8749B0-1BDC-7D8F@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com><CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA15720F412@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com> <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE301C56D52@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel><CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA15720F416@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com> <4B55D0EC.3030107@clocksoft.com> Message-ID: <CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA15720F424@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com> You are right Robert, 1981 to 1983 according to Wikipedia. It was a bit of a self-portrait, Graham ran a small engineering business in Derby and a lot of the characters were based around people that he had dealings with. I will certainly pass on your best wishes next time I am talking to him, he is now 86 but is still active and retains his sharp wit. I wanted to buy the P6 but I think it went to the crusher. Regards Stewart -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Robert Pinner Sent: 19 January 2010 15:34 To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema I hate to admit it, but it was more like thirty years ago. It was fond memories of watching this series as a child that helped me decide to my first car had to be a Rover P6. My friends were all buying minis and Golf GTis. Not liking to follow the crowd, I had narrowed my choice down to either a Triumph GT6 or Rover P6. At the time, the insurance on a GT6 for me, a 19 year, old would have cost 3000.00 pounds, which was more than I could afford at the time. The rest as they say, is history. The car I bought was a Cameron green 1973 2000SC with buckskin interior, God I loved that car. If it's possible, please thank your father in law on my behalf, he has, in no small way, contributed to the last twenty years of my life. Robert Devlin, Stewart (Contractor) wrote: > > About 20 years ago my father-in-law wrote a couple of TV series for > Yorkshire Television in the UK called 'The Gaffer' which starred a > rather beat-up P6. This is not yet on the database but I have the > first series on DVD so will find out how to post pictures and add it > next time I am at home. There was also a 1936 10 in the first film > version of All Creatures Great and Small which is not listed but I am > not sure how to get a clip of the car to add to the database. > > Stewart > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > *From:* rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] *On Behalf Of > *gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com > *Sent:* 19 January 2010 10:19 > *To:* rovernet at rovernet.ca > *Subject:* [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: R: Car Movie - Rover al > cinema > > Thanks, Stewart. > Very interesting. > > Best regards, gianluca. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > *Da:* rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > *Per conto di *Devlin, Stewart (Contractor) > *Inviato:* luned? 18 gennaio 2010 17.31 > *A:* The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > *Oggetto:* Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Car Movie - Rover al > cinema > > > > > Try www.IMCDb.org <http://www.IMCDb.org> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > *From:* rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] *On Behalf Of *jpsco44 at aol.com > *Sent:* 18 January 2010 16:16 > *To:* rovernet at rovernet.ca > *Subject:* Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Car Movie - Rover al > cinema > > if you want to have fun with cars and movies , check www.ICMDb.org > > it is a database of cars in movies . > > enjoy !! > > jps > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Sent: Mon, Jan 18, 2010 5:52 am > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema > > Hi, > > > > you can see a green p6 also in Milou a maggio, a well known french > film of > > Louis Malle, 1989 - 1990. > > > > http://www.mymovies.it/dizionario/recensione.asp?id=14891 > > > > Best regards, gianluca. > > > > -----Messaggio originale----- > > Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca <mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca> > [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > <mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca?>] Per conto > > di Kent Kinard > > Inviato: luned? 18 gennaio 2010 2.24 > > A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > > Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Car Movie - Rover al cinema > > > > Hi Den, > > I recommend "The Big Sleep", not the Bogart version but the remake > > (1978) starring Robert Mitchum, Joan Collins, and Jimmy Stewart. > There are > > several Rovers, including a P5B Coupe that gets shot up and burned and > a jam > > sandwich P6B. Alvis, etc. > > > > Roverly, > > Kent K. > > > > Dennis Gallacher wrote: > >> Not sure if I have asked this before ( one of the joys of > >> 'oltimersdisease' is meeting new friends every day) Our club is >> having > >> a movie night soon. What movie would you recommend with old cars in. > >> The last time we had this show we watched the bank job which is about > >> an actual bank robber from the 60s. > >> > >> Den Gallacher > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Jan 19 14:26:28 2010 From: p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk (p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 19:26:28 -0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema References: <000001ca9725$af5ca930$0e15fb90$@ca> <831341.50038.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><6249C5C744A3CD4BAB36E65B67304F41020ACF27@EMAIL1C.MSJ.ORG><006b01ca97a5$cad19010$6074b030$@net> <ql57l59lf2ke7dt410jgnq13rg9cokpbh5@4ax.com><73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081C03@Server.adoptsec.local><4B53B813.3010903@att.net><7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE301C27008@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel><8CC66709D8749B0-1BDC-7D8F@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com><CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA15720F412@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com> <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE301C56D52@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel><CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA15720F416@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com> <4B55D0EC.3030107@clocksoft.com> Message-ID: <45829762D4C54BAFB6061EB475679EA5@SN037535920331> Sorry to be picky but 'The Gaffer' was made from 1981 to 1983. There were 3 series and a total of 20 episodes in all, starting Bill Maynard as Fred Moffat and it was made by Yorkshire TV. As an incidental, the green and white bus at the beginning of the title sequence was a MCW bodied Atlantean. (West Yorkshire PTE Livery). And I would also like to thank the man who gave us this superb comedy show. What a star. Warmest Regards Mark Editor, The Rover P6 Club From p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Jan 19 14:27:39 2010 From: p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk (p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 19:27:39 -0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema References: <000001ca9725$af5ca930$0e15fb90$@ca> <831341.50038.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><6249C5C744A3CD4BAB36E65B67304F41020ACF27@EMAIL1C.MSJ.ORG><006b01ca97a5$cad19010$6074b030$@net> <ql57l59lf2ke7dt410jgnq13rg9cokpbh5@4ax.com><73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081C03@Server.adoptsec.local><4B53B813.3010903@att.net><7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE301C27008@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel><8CC66709D8749B0-1BDC-7D8F@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com><CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA15720F412@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com> <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE301C56D52@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel><CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA15720F416@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com><4B55D0EC.3030107@clocksoft.com> <CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA15720F424@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com> Message-ID: <6450ABC4FA7E4E1FAD30DECDA9259087@SN037535920331> That'll teach me to read all the thread first, sorry to repeat you Stewart. From DevlinS at bp.com Tue Jan 19 14:31:17 2010 From: DevlinS at bp.com (Devlin, Stewart (Contractor)) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 19:31:17 -0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema In-Reply-To: <6450ABC4FA7E4E1FAD30DECDA9259087@SN037535920331> References: <000001ca9725$af5ca930$0e15fb90$@ca> <831341.50038.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><6249C5C744A3CD4BAB36E65B67304F41020ACF27@EMAIL1C.MSJ.ORG><006b01ca97a5$cad19010$6074b030$@net> <ql57l59lf2ke7dt410jgnq13rg9cokpbh5@4ax.com><73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081C03@Server.adoptsec.local><4B53B813.3010903@att.net><7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE301C27008@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel><8CC66709D8749B0-1BDC-7D8F@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com><CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA15720F412@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com> <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE301C56D52@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel><CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA15720F416@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com><4B55D0EC.3030107@clocksoft.com><CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA15720F424@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com> <6450ABC4FA7E4E1FAD30DECDA9259087@SN037535920331> Message-ID: <CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA15720F428@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com> No problem Mark, we are probably all guilty of doing the same thing. I will also pass on your kind remarks to Graham. -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk Sent: 19 January 2010 19:28 To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: R: Car Movie - Rover al cinema That'll teach me to read all the thread first, sorry to repeat you Stewart. _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From den at aachenkennels.com Tue Jan 19 17:40:08 2010 From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 07:40:08 +0900 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Car Movie References: <000001ca9725$af5ca930$0e15fb90$@ca> <831341.50038.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><6249C5C744A3CD4BAB36E65B67304F41020ACF27@EMAIL1C.MSJ.ORG><006b01ca97a5$cad19010$6074b030$@net><ql57l59lf2ke7dt410jgnq13rg9cokpbh5@4ax.com><73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081C03@Server.adoptsec.local> <5158968650ED478D8D4E08FDBB345A77@sd1> Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081C2B@Server.adoptsec.local> He Ben, Any idea where I could get a copy?. Thank you and all the others that sent in suggestions. Now I have to track DVDs. One idea that has come from this is adding a few Car movies to our club library for the4 members to hire. -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Ben Saunders Sent: Monday, 18 January 2010 9:22 PM To: 'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.' Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Car Movie Hi Den, You might want to look up a movie called "Your Past is showing" with Terry Thomas, Peter Sellers and lots of others that has a P2 DHC in it. Ben Saunders From peterhut at activ8.net.au Tue Jan 19 18:28:46 2010 From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:28:46 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Car Movie In-Reply-To: <06880E8C9EE2447E979E8B2F29C45086@SN037535920331> References: <2ffca.4fef3623.3885edbf@aol.com> <65932.70253.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <06880E8C9EE2447E979E8B2F29C45086@SN037535920331> Message-ID: <jjfcl59mjs1grdu3hs0mqbhkljigk2esjl@4ax.com> On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:16:10 -0000, you wrote: >Hi Eric >Well seeing as you have your car on imcbd, I thought it was only fair to get mine on as well, so please check out >http://www.imcdb.org/movie.php?id=1004510162 While it is pretty comprehensive for the older models, there is not much on Rover 75, called R40 on their data base. Missing many of the British crime and police shows like Wycliffe, Midsomer Murders, Dalziel and Pascoe etc where the Chief Inspector usually drove a 75. Cheers, Peter H From p6rovers at yahoo.com Wed Jan 20 11:39:20 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:39:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test 1 Message-ID: <30029.92968.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In an unprecedented move, I have been asked to send a test message to the ISP of a fellow subscriber. I figured that I first had to sign up their security and abuse addresses as requested and *then* send them a test message. Thanks goodness this doesn't happen all the time. This might not be the *only* message. Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. From p6rovers at yahoo.com Wed Jan 20 12:06:30 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:06:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test 2 Message-ID: <39962.9148.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This a test message for an ISP for one of our subscribers. Eric List Admin "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. From gbbourque at gmail.com Wed Jan 20 15:53:12 2010 From: gbbourque at gmail.com (garrett bourque) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:53:12 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test 2 In-Reply-To: <39962.9148.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <39962.9148.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <982f148d1001201253u7a56406eh91584bec7b265a34@mail.gmail.com> Hello Eric, I got your test. Garrett Bourque Jefferson, Maine On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote: > This a test message for an ISP for one of our subscribers. > > Eric > List Admin > > "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your > favourite sites. Download it now > http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This might not > be the *only* message. > > Eric > > > "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your > favourite sites. Download it now > http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100120/4134e59a/attachment.html> From p6rovers at yahoo.com Wed Jan 20 19:13:20 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:13:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test 1 In-Reply-To: <982f148d1001201254y2d55dd88g80390c246d0983ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <30029.92968.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <982f148d1001201254y2d55dd88g80390c246d0983ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <351095.88052.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Apparently, the ISP ALSO got the message and would like to remain on the list while they check for any trouble receiving. Hopefully, there will be a well-received technical question so that the ISP can see what we're about and not providers of SPAM (unless you are a Jaguar owner, perhaps :-) Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ________________________________ From: garrett bourque <gbbourque at gmail.com> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Wed, January 20, 2010 12:54:28 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test 1 Hello Eric, Response to test 1. I got it. Garrett Bourque On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote: In an unprecedented move, I have been asked to send a test message to the ISP of a fellow subscriber. I figured that I first had to sign up their security and abuse addresses as requested and *then* send them a test message. Thanks goodness this doesn't happen all the time. This might not be the *only* message. > >Eric > > > "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) > > > > __________________________________________________________________ >Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now >http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. > >_______________________________________________ >Rovernet mailing list >Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: >http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>Here are the old Rovernet archives: >http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100120/12926952/attachment.html> From p6rovers at yahoo.com Wed Jan 20 23:08:15 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:08:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Totally OT - The NA version of cute kangaroo pics Message-ID: <143413.50274.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Speakers on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBLfJBf4w4I "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) __________________________________________________________________ Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com From englishmn at verizon.net Sat Jan 23 10:46:20 2010 From: englishmn at verizon.net (peter & nancy) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 07:46:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500s Message-ID: <211579.97805.qm@web84102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hello there? lam looking for the Girling /lockheed parts #?? for brake system for the 1970 3500S master/servo/frt& rear calipers my books only list all for the 2000 model thanks much pete -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100123/90daeb7a/attachment.html> From pjemail at aol.com Sat Jan 23 10:49:51 2010 From: pjemail at aol.com (pjemail at aol.com) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 10:49:51 EST Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500s Message-ID: <1c96d.2d2edcd1.388c749f@aol.com> Dear Pete, I can supply a genuine new Rover parts catalogue for you car with all the part numbers you need and all the rest for the car. Contact me direct on _pjemail at aol.com_ (mailto:pjemail at aol.com) for more details. Regards, Pierre Janusz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100123/c000169c/attachment.html> From englishmn at verizon.net Sat Jan 23 13:21:59 2010 From: englishmn at verizon.net (peter & nancy) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 10:21:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500s Message-ID: <328245.22577.qm@web84103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hello all l have the rover 3500s parts catolog l need for instance the girling /lockneed #s 63-66 --2000?master kit is? SP2105 67-71--2000?master kit is?? SP2415 these are the #s l need for the 3500s rover cat #s do me know good the SP girling #s are what l need so to cross ref with other cars that are still in parts catologs over here in the states so need the girling #s for master kit servo kit for 1970 3500s nada dual line thanks much pete -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100123/c564a6d8/attachment.html> From pjemail at aol.com Sat Jan 23 13:35:23 2010 From: pjemail at aol.com (pjemail at aol.com) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 13:35:23 EST Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500s Message-ID: <29905.70831fbd.388c9b6b@aol.com> The original Rover parts catalogue for the 3500S auto has all the OE equipment numbers in it, so you should have the information already. Regards, Pierre Janusz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100123/7f3a3162/attachment.html> From dlachance at hemmings.com Sat Jan 23 14:12:01 2010 From: dlachance at hemmings.com (David LaChance) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 14:12:01 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500s References: <328245.22577.qm@web84103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <03F9EBBBEEE1224F813E61CDA169C03601878B29@ENTXCHBE01A.amcity.com> Hello Pete, My 1981 Lucas Service manual shows the following service kit part numbers for the 1970-71 3500S: Master cylinder: LSSB925 Servo: LSSB1069 Front calipers: SP2511 Rear calipers: SP2538 Hope this helps. Dave LaChance Williamstown, Massachusetts 1968 Rover 2000 TC -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca on behalf of peter & nancy Sent: Sat 1/23/2010 1:21 PM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500s hello all l have the rover 3500s parts catolog l need for instance the girling /lockneed #s 63-66 --2000?master kit is? SP2105 67-71--2000?master kit is?? SP2415 these are the #s l need for the 3500s rover cat #s do me know good the SP girling #s are what l need so to cross ref with other cars that are still in parts catologs over here in the states so need the girling #s for master kit servo kit for 1970 3500s nada dual line thanks much pete -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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All I can find nowadays is this stuff from Penrite: http://www.penriteoil.com.au/products/greases/rubber_grease It looks like it would work OK, but I'm a worry wart with brake systems- will this will mix OK with Castrol LMA and not eat up my seals? I'm rebuilding some rear calipers and will probably not be reinstalling them for some time.... Thanks in advance, Nathan From danenberg123 at yahoo.com Sat Jan 23 20:34:10 2010 From: danenberg123 at yahoo.com (Bo Danenberger) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 17:34:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Brake grease suppliers (in the USA) In-Reply-To: <424265.53408.qm@web110302.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <343117.20053.qm@web33508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Nathan??? It's available off and on at ebay.? I have plenty....send me your address. I'll send you a tube. Bo Danenberger, Danvers, Illinois --- On Sat, 1/23/10, Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com> wrote: From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Brake grease suppliers (in the USA) To: "NEW RovernetRovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 7:05 PM Greetings I was wondering what (if anything) people used to lube their brake hydraulic parts on reassembly. I remember receiving a packet of Lockheed (or was it Girling?) red rubber grease with a master cylinder seal kit some years ago. None of the big parts guys (Moss, Victoria British) seem to have it. All I can find nowadays is this stuff from Penrite: http://www.penriteoil.com.au/products/greases/rubber_grease It looks like it would work OK, but I'm a worry wart with brake systems- will this will mix OK with Castrol LMA and not eat up my seals? I'm rebuilding some rear calipers and will probably not be reinstalling them for some time.... 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100123/201d9da5/attachment.html> From vern at inkspotco.com Sat Jan 23 21:03:09 2010 From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:03:09 -0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Brake grease suppliers (in the USA) In-Reply-To: <424265.53408.qm@web110302.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <424265.53408.qm@web110302.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <E1AE0F9E-646C-483E-9721-C19BB3775AB3@inkspotco.com> Two options, rubber grease or hydraulic assembly lube marked safe for brake systems. Any jobber should stock at least one of them. Failing that, just use new brake fluid and wipe up any that's left external to the seals. I prefer the assembly lube myself, but the grease has its merits as well. Yours Vern On 2010-01-23, at 5:05 PM, Nathan Obuch wrote: > Greetings > > I was wondering what (if anything) people used to lube their brake hydraulic parts on reassembly. I remember receiving a packet of Lockheed (or was it Girling?) red rubber grease with a master cylinder seal kit some years ago. None of the big parts guys (Moss, Victoria British) seem to have it. > > All I can find nowadays is this stuff from Penrite: > > http://www.penriteoil.com.au/products/greases/rubber_grease > > It looks like it would work OK, but I'm a worry wart with brake systems- will this will mix OK with Castrol LMA and not eat up my seals? I'm rebuilding some rear calipers and will probably not be reinstalling them for some time.... > > Thanks in advance, > > Nathan > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From nathanobuch at yahoo.com Sat Jan 23 21:41:40 2010 From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com (Nathan Obuch) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:41:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Brake grease suppliers (in the USA) In-Reply-To: <343117.20053.qm@web33508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <996236.9745.qm@web110310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Bo, Thanks so much! That's very generous. My work address is best to ship to. I have to admit that I'm slightly shocked that there's another Rover owner(?) in Illinois- the ownership seems clustered on the coasts. I towed mine back from Maine! Nathan Obuch c/o Path Electronics 1500 E. Algonquin Rd. Arlington Heights, IL 60005 Nathan --- On Sat, 1/23/10, Bo Danenberger <danenberg123 at yahoo.com> wrote: > From: Bo Danenberger <danenberg123 at yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Brake grease suppliers (in the USA) > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 7:34 PM > Nathan??? It's > available off and on at ebay.? I have plenty....send me > your address. I'll send you a tube. > Bo Danenberger, Danvers, Illinois > > --- On Sat, 1/23/10, Nathan Obuch > <nathanobuch at yahoo.com> wrote: > > > From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Brake grease suppliers > (in the USA) > To: "NEW RovernetRovernet" > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 7:05 PM > > > Greetings > > I was wondering what (if anything) people used to lube > their brake hydraulic parts on reassembly. I remember > receiving a packet of Lockheed (or was it Girling?) red > rubber grease with a master cylinder seal kit some years > ago. None of the big parts guys (Moss, Victoria British) > seem to have it. > > All I can find nowadays is this stuff from Penrite: > > http://www.penriteoil.com.au/products/greases/rubber_grease > > It looks like it would work OK, but I'm a worry wart > with brake systems- will this will mix OK with Castrol LMA > and not eat up my seals? I'm rebuilding some rear > calipers and will probably not be reinstalling them for some > time.... > > Thanks in advance, > > Nathan > > > > > ? ? ? > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest > mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest > mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat Jan 23 22:11:40 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 19:11:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Brake grease suppliers (in the USA) In-Reply-To: <424265.53408.qm@web110302.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <424265.53408.qm@web110302.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <918963.22727.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Nathan, I used to use PBR rubber grease (Australian brake parts makers). Here's a contact in the USA. Use them to find a retailer in your area. supply_enquiries at pbr.com.au Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ----- Original Message ---- From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com> To: NEW RovernetRovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Sat, January 23, 2010 5:05:22 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Brake grease suppliers (in the USA) Greetings I was wondering what (if anything) people used to lube their brake hydraulic parts on reassembly. I remember receiving a packet of Lockheed (or was it Girling?) red rubber grease with a master cylinder seal kit some years ago. None of the big parts guys (Moss, Victoria British) seem to have it. All I can find nowadays is this stuff from Penrite: http://www.penriteoil.com.au/products/greases/rubber_grease It looks like it would work OK, but I'm a worry wart with brake systems- will this will mix OK with Castrol LMA and not eat up my seals? I'm rebuilding some rear calipers and will probably not be reinstalling them for some time.... Thanks in advance, Nathan _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ Connect with friends from any web browser - no download required. Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger for the Web BETA at http://ca.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php From gbbourque at gmail.com Sat Jan 23 22:12:18 2010 From: gbbourque at gmail.com (garrett bourque) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 22:12:18 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Brake grease suppliers (in the USA) In-Reply-To: <996236.9745.qm@web110310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <343117.20053.qm@web33508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <996236.9745.qm@web110310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <982f148d1001231912x6e596b1t9b2a3fe9d16416cf@mail.gmail.com> Hello Nathan, Oh Boy....towed back from Maine? Out of curiousity, I have to please ask where from, since I am from Maine!! I hope that you like your car!! Speaking of long distance car moving stories, I have two 1960s Jaguar SType sedans. One came from Sausalito, California, truck shipped to Maine as a project, and the other came from Boulder, Colorado where I used to live and when leaving, drove back to Maine in it. They are icons of my youth, as well as rock solid rust free cars from dry climates! My 1970 Rover 3500s was new in New York City and has now spent 2/3 of its life in Maine. It has remained pretty free from rust holes but before I did its restoration, surface rust was a problem! I have a second 1970 Rover 3500S parts car that is for sale. It is very rust free and has a Georgia license plate on it from 1980. It is not at all complete, but would be a perfect bodyshell to do a restoration on. Use a second car for needed parts and save hours of panel replacement due to rust repair. I am asking $300. The car rolls. I can be reached at: gbbourque at gmail dot com Sincerely, Garrett Bourque On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com> wrote: > Bo, > > Thanks so much! That's very generous. My work address is best to ship to. I > have to admit that I'm slightly shocked that there's another Rover owner(?) > in Illinois- the ownership seems clustered on the coasts. I towed mine back > from Maine! > > > Nathan Obuch c/o > Path Electronics > 1500 E. Algonquin Rd. > Arlington Heights, IL 60005 > > > Nathan > > --- On Sat, 1/23/10, Bo Danenberger <danenberg123 at yahoo.com> wrote: > > > From: Bo Danenberger <danenberg123 at yahoo.com> > > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Brake grease suppliers (in the > USA) > > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca > > > > Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 7:34 PM > > Nathan It's > > available off and on at ebay. I have plenty....send me > > your address. I'll send you a tube. > > Bo Danenberger, Danvers, Illinois > > > > --- On Sat, 1/23/10, Nathan Obuch > > <nathanobuch at yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com> > > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Brake grease suppliers > > (in the USA) > > To: "NEW RovernetRovernet" > > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > > Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 7:05 PM > > > > > > Greetings > > > > I was wondering what (if anything) people used to lube > > their brake hydraulic parts on reassembly. I remember > > receiving a packet of Lockheed (or was it Girling?) red > > rubber grease with a master cylinder seal kit some years > > ago. None of the big parts guys (Moss, Victoria British) > > seem to have it. > > > > All I can find nowadays is this stuff from Penrite: > > > > http://www.penriteoil.com.au/products/greases/rubber_grease > > > > It looks like it would work OK, but I'm a worry wart > > with brake systems- will this will mix OK with Castrol LMA > > and not eat up my seals? I'm rebuilding some rear > > calipers and will probably not be reinstalling them for some > > time.... > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Nathan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest > > mode or no-mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > > > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest > > mode or no-mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100123/8c8d8ad2/attachment.html> From danenberg123 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 25 13:35:24 2010 From: danenberg123 at yahoo.com (Bo Danenberger) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:35:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Brake grease suppliers (in the USA) In-Reply-To: <996236.9745.qm@web110310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <137432.54944.qm@web33508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Nathan.....Just posted your red grease off at the post.? Let me know if it arrives and I hope you put it to good use.? Bo Danenberger, Danvers, Illinois --- On Sat, 1/23/10, Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com> wrote: From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Brake grease suppliers (in the USA) To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 8:41 PM Bo, Thanks so much! That's very generous. My work address is best to ship to. I have to admit that I'm slightly shocked that there's another Rover owner(?) in Illinois- the ownership seems clustered on the coasts. I towed mine back from Maine! Nathan Obuch c/o Path Electronics 1500 E. Algonquin Rd. Arlington Heights, IL 60005 Nathan --- On Sat, 1/23/10, Bo Danenberger <danenberg123 at yahoo.com> wrote: > From: Bo Danenberger <danenberg123 at yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Brake grease suppliers (in the USA) > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 7:34 PM > Nathan??? It's > available off and on at ebay.? I have plenty....send me > your address. I'll send you a tube. > Bo Danenberger, Danvers, Illinois > > --- On Sat, 1/23/10, Nathan Obuch > <nathanobuch at yahoo.com> wrote: > > > From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Brake grease suppliers > (in the USA) > To: "NEW RovernetRovernet" > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 7:05 PM > > > Greetings > > I was wondering what (if anything) people used to lube > their brake hydraulic parts on reassembly. I remember > receiving a packet of Lockheed (or was it Girling?) red > rubber grease with a master cylinder seal kit some years > ago. None of the big parts guys (Moss, Victoria British) > seem to have it. > > All I can find nowadays is this stuff from Penrite: > > http://www.penriteoil.com.au/products/greases/rubber_grease > > It looks like it would work OK, but I'm a worry wart > with brake systems- will this will mix OK with Castrol LMA > and not eat up my seals? I'm rebuilding some rear > calipers and will probably not be reinstalling them for some > time.... > > Thanks in advance, > > Nathan > > > > > ? ? ? > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest > mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > >? ? ??? > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest > mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ? ? ? _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100125/c201f592/attachment.html> From nathanobuch at yahoo.com Mon Jan 25 17:52:01 2010 From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com (Nathan Obuch) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:52:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Brake grease suppliers (in the USA) In-Reply-To: <137432.54944.qm@web33508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <392649.19872.qm@web110311.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Thanks so much, Bo. Even _former_ Rover owners are true gentlemen. What sort of collector cars do you have nowadays? Perhaps I have or can find some vintage magazine or ad you might enjoy which ties into your current collection as a little token of thanks. Nathan --- On Mon, 1/25/10, Bo Danenberger <danenberg123 at yahoo.com> wrote: > From: Bo Danenberger <danenberg123 at yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Brake grease suppliers (in the USA) > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Date: Monday, January 25, 2010, 12:35 PM > Nathan.....Just posted your red grease > off at the post.? Let me know if it arrives and I hope > you put it to good use.? Bo Danenberger, Danvers, > Illinois > > --- On Sat, 1/23/10, Nathan Obuch > <nathanobuch at yahoo.com> wrote: > > > From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Brake grease > suppliers (in the USA) > To: "The original list for Rover car > enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 8:41 PM > > > Bo, > > Thanks so much! That's very generous. My work address > is best to ship to. I have to admit that I'm slightly > shocked that there's another Rover owner(?) in Illinois- > the ownership seems clustered on the coasts. I towed mine > back from Maine! > > > Nathan Obuch c/o > Path Electronics > 1500 E. Algonquin Rd. > Arlington Heights, IL 60005 > > > Nathan > > --- On Sat, 1/23/10, Bo Danenberger <danenberg123 at yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > From: Bo Danenberger <danenberg123 at yahoo.com> > > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Brake grease > suppliers (in the USA) > > To: "The original list for Rover car > enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > > Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 7:34 PM > > Nathan??? It's > > available off and on at ebay.? I have > plenty....send me > > your address. I'll send you a tube. > > Bo Danenberger, Danvers, Illinois > > > > --- On Sat, 1/23/10, Nathan Obuch > > <nathanobuch at yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > > > From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com> > > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Brake grease > suppliers > > (in the USA) > > To: "NEW RovernetRovernet" > > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > > Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 7:05 PM > > > > > > Greetings > > > > I was wondering what (if anything) people used to > lube > > their brake hydraulic parts on reassembly. I remember > > receiving a packet of Lockheed (or was it Girling?) > red > > rubber grease with a master cylinder seal kit some > years > > ago. None of the big parts guys (Moss, Victoria > British) > > seem to have it. > > > > All I can find nowadays is this stuff from Penrite: > > > > http://www.penriteoil.com.au/products/greases/rubber_grease > > > > It looks like it would work OK, but I'm a worry > wart > > with brake systems- will this will mix OK with Castrol > LMA > > and not > eat up my seals? I'm rebuilding some rear > > calipers and will probably not be reinstalling them > for some > > time.... > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Nathan > > > > > > > > > > ? ? ? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as > digest > > mode or no-mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > > > >? ? ??? > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as > digest > > mode or no-mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > ? ? ? > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest > mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest > mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From ABoasberg at webtv.net Tue Jan 26 18:21:22 2010 From: ABoasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:21:22 -0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Creams or Conditioners for Leather Car Seats In-Reply-To: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch@yahoo.com>'s message of Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:52:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1240-4B5F78F2-4149@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> Any recommendations? Thanks. Albert From goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com Tue Jan 26 19:30:14 2010 From: goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com (Dennis Brooks) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:30:14 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Creams or Conditioners for Leather Car Seats In-Reply-To: <1240-4B5F78F2-4149@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> References: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch@yahoo.com>'s message of Mon, 25 Jan Message-ID: <COL114-W57CDD8A88B6DF533522F6BDE5D0@phx.gbl> Hi Albert...I hope your new year is off to a fantastic start :) There are several good products for leather on the market ...my personal choice is sold under the brand name "Mothers" > From: ABoasberg at webtv.net > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:21:22 -0800 > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Creams or Conditioners for Leather Car Seats > > Any recommendations? > > Thanks. > > Albert > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _________________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100126/465b9764/attachment.html> From smokeandsteam at gmail.com Tue Jan 26 19:51:32 2010 From: smokeandsteam at gmail.com (Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:51:32 -0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Creams or Conditioners for Leather Car Seats In-Reply-To: <COL114-W57CDD8A88B6DF533522F6BDE5D0@phx.gbl> References: <nathanobuch@yahoo.com> <1240-4B5F78F2-4149@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> <COL114-W57CDD8A88B6DF533522F6BDE5D0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <204ec4391001261651s12ecb093tf366cbba87cf68aa@mail.gmail.com> Hi Albert My favourite is Renapur - though I haven't seen it available very often in California, I occasionally convince someone to send a care package over the Atlantic with a tub included. A small tub goes a long way. There are several leather conditioners that SWMBO uses for her tack that have been pressed into service with excellent results - Passier "Lederbalsam" is good stuff. Tack shops are a good place to go to find leather care products - horse people are often even fussier about their leather than car owners If the leather is cracking and/or drying neatsfoot oil is the traditional remedy, though it does tend to make some lighter shades go darker over time, though that's not a rea proble with black leather For general cleaning between treatments Murphy's oil soap is excellent Aidrian >> >> Any recommendations? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Albert From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Jan 26 20:13:12 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:13:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Creams or Conditioners for Leather Car Seats In-Reply-To: <1240-4B5F78F2-4149@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> References: <1240-4B5F78F2-4149@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <262426.67722.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Albert, When I first started with Rovers and Rover seats, the first product recommended to me was "Hide Food". Turns out it was Connolly Leather's "Hide Care" http://www.goodspeedmotoring.com/connolly.html Seemed hard to get on and into the seat unless the seats were warmed. It seemed like pure lanolin to me. In the next stage of my restoration "career", I dropped by a local shoe repair expert, who turned out to be Dutch, and whose father owned a shoe factory in Europe. He recommended "Neats Foot Oil <http://www.neatsfootoil.com/neats.htm> if I could remove the leather seat cover from the squab and get to the back of the leather that was untreated. Now THAT was a nuisance. His point was that the top surface of the leather was stained and then sealed to prevent leaching of the colour onto clothing. He maintained that the penetration of the leather with a re-conditioner was best achieved from the back where sealing had not been used. He used and recommended Lexol: Lexol http://www.lexol.com/ More recently, I decided to restore a set of brown seats. I removed the seat covers from both front seat squabs and soaked them each in Lexol. The sucked up about 1/2 Litre or so each of Lexol. I then soaked the top covers in Lexol by repeated spraying in a warm environment. That used up another 1/2 litre or so of Lexol. Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ----- Original Message ---- From: Albert Boasberg <ABoasberg at webtv.net> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 3:21:22 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Creams or Conditioners for Leather Car Seats Any recommendations? Thanks. 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From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com Wed Jan 27 00:34:02 2010 From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 05:34:02 +0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Creams or Conditioners for Leather Car Seats In-Reply-To: <1240-4B5F78F2-4149@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> References: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch@yahoo.com>'s message of Mon, 25 Jan Message-ID: <BAY120-W13C5095B3D75E94FE1BBD3B85D0@phx.gbl> Visit your local horseriding/saddlery store - they will have leather cleaning and care products to show you that they have to sell to some very choosy customers. My person favourite product = Effax Lederbalsam - a wonderful product containing lanolin, avocado and beeswax. Totally effective and a delight to use. The crucial thing is to clean the leather before applying any treatment, AutoGlym Leather Cleaner is excellent. [Too many folk seem to slap on leather treatment products - like Connolly's Hide Food [another good 'un] - without cleaning first and then wonder why they get indifferent results. Be chary of Neatsfoot Oil - it has a nasty tendency to rot stitching. AutoGlym's Leather Treatment is good for excellent condition leather but a bit mouse-milky for a heavy weight resto job. If the leather's very dried out and the stitching is in a bad way, you want to think about removing the covers completely, hitting them from behind with heavy doses of leather restorer and then renewing the stitching. > From: ABoasberg at webtv.net > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:21:22 -0800 > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Creams or Conditioners for Leather Car Seats > > Any recommendations? > > Thanks. > > Albert > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _________________________________________________________________ View photos of singles in your area! Browse profiles for FREE http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100127/933c133a/attachment.html> From phing at videotron.ca Wed Jan 27 12:21:22 2010 From: phing at videotron.ca (Patrick Hiron) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:21:22 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Creams or Conditioners for Leather Car Seats In-Reply-To: <BAY120-W13C5095B3D75E94FE1BBD3B85D0@phx.gbl> References: 25 Jan <BAY120-W13C5095B3D75E94FE1BBD3B85D0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <000601ca9f75$260d3430$72279c90$@ca> Hi I found a low cost way to revive the acres of dried out leather in my P3 .First I cleaned it all with Lexol cleaner , removing many years worth of gunk .I then fed the leather with - Vaseline - . I massaged two big tubs of Vaseline into the leather and stitching over a period of about a month, applying thin coats , gently rubbing the Vaseline into the surface. The leather absorbed the Vaseline in no time, to become soft and flexible with a nice sheen . Did some one mention a baby's bottom??? The results were excellent and the cost was minimal . Cheers Patrick From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Richard Sharpe Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:34 AM To: rover net Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Creams or Conditioners for Leather Car Seats Visit your local horseriding/saddlery store - they will have leather cleaning and care products to show you that they have to sell to some very choosy customers. My person favourite product = Effax Lederbalsam - a wonderful product containing lanolin, avocado and beeswax. Totally effective and a delight to use. The crucial thing is to clean the leather before applying any treatment, AutoGlym Leather Cleaner is excellent. [Too many folk seem to slap on leather treatment products - like Connolly's Hide Food [another good 'un] - without cleaning first and then wonder why they get indifferent results. Be chary of Neatsfoot Oil - it has a nasty tendency to rot stitching. AutoGlym's Leather Treatment is good for excellent condition leather but a bit mouse-milky for a heavy weight resto job. If the leather's very dried out and the stitching is in a bad way, you want to think about removing the covers completely, hitting them from behind with heavy doses of leather restorer and then renewing the stitching. > From: ABoasberg at webtv.net > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:21:22 -0800 > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Creams or Conditioners for Leather Car Seats > > Any recommendations? > > Thanks. > > Albert > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _____ Browse profiles for FREE View photos of singles in your area! <http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100127/f4c6b15f/attachment.html> From gjkzscruggs at verizon.net Wed Jan 27 12:28:58 2010 From: gjkzscruggs at verizon.net (Scruggs Family) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:28:58 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Creams or Conditioners for Leather Car Seats In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1264611611.17322.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> References: <mailman.3.1264611611.17322.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <026e01ca9f76$3587ccd0$a0976670$@net> I've been using Lexol on leather seats for many years and highly recommend it. Apply with bare hands, rub until it is absorbed then wipe with soft cloth. I refrain from commenting on the sensuality of the process. They have a cleaner too. Find it at any place that has horsey stuff. Regards, Gross Scruggs Annapolis MD From rovercar at comcast.net Wed Jan 27 16:41:11 2010 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:41:11 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Creams or Conditioners for Leather Car Seats In-Reply-To: <000601ca9f75$260d3430$72279c90$@ca> References: 25 Jan <BAY120-W13C5095B3D75E94FE1BBD3B85D0@phx.gbl> <000601ca9f75$260d3430$72279c90$@ca> Message-ID: <4B60B2F7.5070105@comcast.net> Patrick Hiron wrote: > > Hi > > I found a low cost way to revive the acres of dried out leather in my > P3 .First I cleaned it all with Lexol cleaner , removing many years > worth of gunk .I then fed the leather with -- Vaseline - . I massaged > two big tubs of Vaseline into the leather and stitching over a period > of about a month, applying thin coats , gently rubbing the Vaseline > into the surface. The leather absorbed the Vaseline in no time, to > become soft and flexible with a nice sheen . Did some one mention a > baby's bottom??? > > The results were excellent and the cost was minimal . > > Cheers > > Patrick > > > Not knocking your technique, Patrick, but Vaseline is not exactly a hide food, is it? Comes out of a hole in the ground, you know... Glen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100127/9736ed33/attachment.html> From derekrockford at hotmail.com Wed Jan 27 17:49:43 2010 From: derekrockford at hotmail.com (Derek Rockford) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:49:43 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Creams or Conditioners for Leather Car Seats In-Reply-To: <4B60B2F7.5070105@comcast.net> References: 25 Jan <BAY120-W13C5095B3D75E94FE1BBD3B85D0@phx.gbl><000601ca9f75$260d3430$72279c90$@ca> <4B60B2F7.5070105@comcast.net> Message-ID: <BLU146-DS7A291A657CF4CE8529F62B85D0@phx.gbl> Glen Wrote: "Not knocking your technique, Patrick, but Vaseline is not exactly a hide food, is it? Comes out of a hole in the ground, you know... "Sounds like someone's knocking. It's actually been used before for just that before. I know a guy that's used it on his old Bentley. I've questioned using it on Hands myself because it is a Petroleum product, because of the carcinogen effect, if it's so. I don't think the Leather will develop any issues. I've seen Leather restored and re-Lacquered etc. I wouldn't do that to my Hands though. I use Connelly's Hide Food and just because it says Hide Food, it's not much of one. Waxy, Sticky when dry if over applied. Great for Leather that's in great shape. I'd say if Vaseline works on the brittle Leather, there's nothing to lose. Hide Food will get You nowhere once the Leather has deteriorated to that extent. Goin back to my Hole in the Ground... Derek From: Glen Wilson Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:41 PM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Creams or Conditioners for Leather Car Seats Patrick Hiron wrote: Hi I found a low cost way to revive the acres of dried out leather in my P3 .First I cleaned it all with Lexol cleaner , removing many years worth of gunk .I then fed the leather with - Vaseline - . I massaged two big tubs of Vaseline into the leather and stitching over a period of about a month, applying thin coats , gently rubbing the Vaseline into the surface. The leather absorbed the Vaseline in no time, to become soft and flexible with a nice sheen . Did some one mention a baby's bottom??? The results were excellent and the cost was minimal . Cheers Patrick Not knocking your technique, Patrick, but Vaseline is not exactly a hide food, is it? Comes out of a hole in the ground, you know... Glen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100127/02678fed/attachment-0001.html> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The stuffing is stuffed and will need replacing and most of the leather looks on the face of it to be fine. However I've been told that the problem is where they stitch the leather once its put back and under strain ( okay I am a bit over weight ) it will come apart along the dotted line, much like a postage stamp. Wanting to retain as much as I can I have been doing the Google thing plus phoning UK and around. Did you know there is a leather preservation society in the UK? One surprising bit of info I found out is Motor bike shops have lots of knowledge on the repair and mend due to the jackets and leather the riders wear!!!. After all that the best advice I received was from the chap at Liquid leather or Glipton, ( http://www.liquidleather.com ) I never thought that someone would have such a passion for leather as that chaps has,( well outside one of those ladies entertainment places I mean, not that I know what they do inside with those red leather garments as I've never been in one,,,,well only the once and that was in Germany...Okay a few time but I was doing research on what ones to recommend to the new lads sent to our regiment...). Back to Leather care as said this bloke is very passionate about what he does and would be one of the most helpful of people you could speak to. I told him what I wanted he like others on the list, said that the best thing would be to strip the covers of and treat from the back using a small soft brush to apply his special brew, repeat this until I have run out. Got nothing to lose I guess so will start next week. Den. Gallacher -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100128/3859c7d0/attachment.html> From phing at videotron.ca Wed Jan 27 23:38:59 2010 From: phing at videotron.ca (Patrick Hiron) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 23:38:59 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Creams or Conditioners for Leather Car Seats In-Reply-To: <BLU146-DS7A291A657CF4CE8529F62B85D0@phx.gbl> References: 25 Jan <BAY120-W13C5095B3D75E94FE1BBD3B85D0@phx.gbl> <000601ca9f75$260d3430$72279c90$@ca> <4B60B2F7.5070105@comcast.net> <BLU146-DS7A291A657CF4CE8529F62B85D0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <001201ca9fd3$cf583220$6e089660$@ca> Glen Where do you think all the high priced leather treatments come from ?? They are all derived from petrochemicals. I would have thought Vaseline was the proven preservative of the most sensitive hides on the planet. Derek I don't think you need to worry about the carcinogenic potential of Vaseline . It's been used on millions of baby's bottoms over the last 100 years . I'm sure some one would have noticed by now. Patrick From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Derek Rockford Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 5:50 PM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Creams or Conditioners for Leather Car Seats Glen Wrote: "Not knocking your technique, Patrick, but Vaseline is not exactly a hide food, is it? Comes out of a hole in the ground, you know... "Sounds like someone's knocking. It's actually been used before for just that before. I know a guy that's used it on his old Bentley. I've questioned using it on Hands myself because it is a Petroleum product, because of the carcinogen effect, if it's so. I don't think the Leather will develop any issues.Smile emoticon I've seen Leather restored and re-Lacquered etc. I wouldn't do that to my Hands though. I use Connelly's Hide Food and just because it says Hide Food, it's not much of one. Waxy, Sticky when dry if over applied. Great for Leather that's in great shape. I'd say if Vaseline works on the brittle Leather, there's nothing to lose. Hide Food will get You nowhere once the Leather has deteriorated to that extent. Goin back to my Hole in the Ground... Derek From: Glen Wilson <mailto:rovercar at comcast.net> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:41 PM To: The <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.ca> original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Creams or Conditioners for Leather Car Seats Patrick Hiron wrote: Hi I found a low cost way to revive the acres of dried out leather in my P3 .First I cleaned it all with Lexol cleaner , removing many years worth of gunk .I then fed the leather with - Vaseline - . I massaged two big tubs of Vaseline into the leather and stitching over a period of about a month, applying thin coats , gently rubbing the Vaseline into the surface. The leather absorbed the Vaseline in no time, to become soft and flexible with a nice sheen . Did some one mention a baby's bottom??? The results were excellent and the cost was minimal . Cheers Patrick Not knocking your technique, Patrick, but Vaseline is not exactly a hide food, is it? Comes out of a hole in the ground, you know... Glen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100127/6aacaa6b/attachment.html> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Just pointed that out for all of the guys who wax on about leather upholstery being a living, breathing thing. What I doubt is that you can go back to some sort of hide food once you have saturated the leather with a petroleum product. At the same time, I'll say that there are plenty of expensive products out there that do very little to soften up old leather, even if you use their recommended cleaning process before application. Also, I never criticize Patrick because he can be a really mean SOB when you brush his fur the wrong way. Don't believe all that you hear about Canadians all being polite and well-mannered. ;-) Glen > It's actually been used before for just that before. I know a guy > that's used it on his old Bentley. > I've questioned using it on Hands myself because it is a Petroleum > product, because of the carcinogen effect, if it's so. > I don't think the Leather will develop any issues.Smile emoticon I've > seen Leather restored and re-Lacquered etc. I wouldn't do that to my > Hands though. > > I use Connelly's Hide Food and just because it says Hide Food, it's > not much of one. Waxy, Sticky when dry if over applied. Great > for Leather that's in great shape. I'd say if Vaseline works on the > brittle Leather, there's nothing to lose. Hide Food will get You nowhere > once the Leather has deteriorated to that extent. > > Goin back to my Hole in the Ground... > Derek > > > *From:* Glen Wilson <mailto:rovercar at comcast.net> > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:41 PM > *To:* The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.ca> > *Subject:* Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Creams or Conditioners for > Leather Car Seats > > Patrick Hiron wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> I found a low cost way to revive the acres of dried out leather in >> my P3 .First I cleaned it all with Lexol cleaner , removing many >> years worth of gunk .I then fed the leather with -- Vaseline - . I >> massaged two big tubs of Vaseline into the leather and stitching over >> a period of about a month, applying thin coats , gently rubbing the >> Vaseline into the surface. The leather absorbed the Vaseline in no >> time, to become soft and flexible with a nice sheen . Did some one >> mention a baby's bottom??? >> >> The results were excellent and the cost was minimal . >> >> Cheers >> >> Patrick >> >> >> > > Not knocking your technique, Patrick, but Vaseline is not exactly a > hide food, is it? Comes out of a hole in the ground, you know... > > Glen > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They are all derived from petrochemicals. I would have thought > Vaseline was the proven preservative of the most sensitive hides on > the planet. > > Derek I don't think you need to worry about the carcinogenic > potential of Vaseline . It's been used on millions of baby's bottoms > over the last 100 years . I'm sure some one would have noticed by now. > > Patrick > > > > *From:* rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] *On Behalf Of *Derek Rockford > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 27, 2010 5:50 PM > *To:* The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > *Subject:* Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Creams or Conditioners for > Leather Car Seats > > > > Glen Wrote: > > > > "Not knocking your technique, Patrick, but Vaseline is not exactly a > hide food, is it? Comes out of a hole in the ground, you know... > > > > "Sounds like someone's knocking. It's actually been used before for > just that before. I know a guy that's used it on his old Bentley. > > I've questioned using it on Hands myself because it is a Petroleum > product, because of the carcinogen effect, if it's so. > > I don't think the Leather will develop any issues.Smile emoticon I've > seen Leather restored and re-Lacquered etc. I wouldn't do that to my > Hands though. > > > > I use Connelly's Hide Food and just because it says Hide Food, it's > not much of one. Waxy, Sticky when dry if over applied. Great > > for Leather that's in great shape. I'd say if Vaseline works on the > brittle Leather, there's nothing to lose. Hide Food will get You nowhere > > once the Leather has deteriorated to that extent. > > > > Goin back to my Hole in the Ground... > > Derek > > > > > > *From:* Glen Wilson <mailto:rovercar at comcast.net> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:41 PM > > *To:* The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.ca> > > *Subject:* Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Creams or Conditioners for > Leather Car Seats > > > > Patrick Hiron wrote: > > Hi > > I found a low cost way to revive the acres of dried out leather in my > P3 .First I cleaned it all with Lexol cleaner , removing many years > worth of gunk .I then fed the leather with -- Vaseline - . I massaged > two big tubs of Vaseline into the leather and stitching over a period > of about a month, applying thin coats , gently rubbing the Vaseline > into the surface. The leather absorbed the Vaseline in no time, to > become soft and flexible with a nice sheen . Did some one mention a > baby's bottom??? > > The results were excellent and the cost was minimal . > > Cheers > > Patrick > > > There, Derek! See how mean he can be? Right away he's onto babies bottoms and things like that. ;-) Of course there's Bag Balm which was originally for cows' udders. People used it for everything. It's still on the market, but I think they've taken the lead and mercury out of it, now. Probably not as effective as it used to be. Did you know that they used to use asbestos in cigarette filters? Some guy once did me a favor by removing the asbestos from the heat shield under the carbs in my '66 Midget. Took me a little while to figure out why I had vapor lock issues. Glen > > Not knocking your technique, Patrick, but Vaseline is not exactly a > hide food, is it? 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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 08:59:33 +0900 From: den at aachenkennels.com To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Creams or Conditioners for LeatherCar Seats Morning Chaps, Found this topic interesting. More so as I have a 36 Rover Streamline that has spent the past 45 years ether at the back of a workshop or under a tarp which is not the best way to preserve it. The leather seats are for the most part in good order with lovely patina and creases. The stuffing is stuffed and will need replacing and most of the leather looks on the face of it to be fine. However I?ve been told that the problem is where they stitch the leather once its put back and under strain ( okay I am a bit over weight ) it will come apart along the dotted line, much like a postage stamp. Wanting to retain as much as I can I have been doing the Google thing plus phoning UK and around. Did you know there is a leather preservation society in the UK? One surprising bit of info I found out is Motor bike shops have lots of knowledge on the repair and mend due to the jackets and leather the riders wear!!!. After all that the best advice I received was from the chap at Liquid leather or Glipton, ( http://www.liquidleather.com ) I never thought that someone would have such a passion for leather as that chaps has,( well outside one of those ladies entertainment places I mean, not that I know what they do inside with those red leather garments as I?ve never been in one,,,,well only the once and that was in Germany...Okay a few time but I was doing research on what ones to recommend to the new lads sent to our regiment...). Back to Leather care as said this bloke is very passionate about what he does and would be one of the most helpful of people you could speak to. I told him what I wanted he like others on the list, said that the best thing would be to strip the covers of and treat from the back using a small soft brush to apply his special brew, repeat this until I have run out. Got nothing to lose I guess so will start next week. Den. Gallacher _________________________________________________________________ Video chat with Windows Live Messenger Learn how http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/messenger/article/870686/video-chat-with-messenger -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Try a lanolin based product if you'd like to go "Green".... :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanolin Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ________________________________ From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Wed, January 27, 2010 9:06:39 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Creams or Conditioners for Leather Car Seats Derek Rockford wrote: > > >Glen Wrote: > >"Not knocking >your technique, Patrick, but Vaseline is not exactly a hide food, is >it? Comes out of a hole in the ground, you know... > >"Sounds >like someone's knocking. I'm really not knocking it, Derek. Just pointed that out for all of the guys who wax on about leather upholstery being a living, breathing thing. What I doubt is that you can go back to some sort of hide food once you have saturated the leather with a petroleum product. At the same time, I'll say that there are plenty of expensive products out there that do very little to soften up old leather, even if you use their recommended cleaning process before application. Also, I never criticize Patrick because he can be a really mean SOB when you brush his fur the wrong way. Don't believe all that you hear about Canadians all being polite and well-mannered. ;-) Glen It's actually been used before for just that >before. I know a guy that's used it on his old Bentley. >I've questioned using it on Hands myself >because it is a Petroleum product, because of the carcinogen effect, if >it's so. >I don't think the Leather will develop any >issues. I've seen Leather restored and >re-Lacquered etc. I wouldn't do that to my Hands though. > >I use Connelly's Hide Food and just because >it says Hide Food, it's not much of one. Waxy, Sticky when dry if over >applied. Great >for Leather that's in great shape. I'd say if >Vaseline works on the brittle Leather, there's nothing to lose. Hide >Food will get You nowhere >once the Leather has deteriorated to that >extent. > >Goin back to my Hole in the Ground... >Derek > > > >From: Glen Wilson >Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:41 PM >To: The original list for Rover car >enthusiasts. >Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Creams or >Conditioners for Leather Car Seats > > >Patrick Hiron wrote: > >>> >>Hi >> >> I >>found a low cost way to revive the acres of dried out leather in my P3 >>.First I cleaned it all with Lexol cleaner , removing many years worth >>of gunk .I then fed the leather with ? Vaseline - . I massaged two big >>tubs of Vaseline into the leather and stitching over a period of about >>a month, applying thin coats , gently rubbing the Vaseline into the >>surface. The leather absorbed the Vaseline in no time, to become soft >>and flexible with a nice sheen . Did some one mention a baby?s bottom??? >>The >>results were excellent and the cost was minimal . >> Cheers >> >> Patrick >> >> >>Not knocking your technique, Patrick, but Vaseline is not exactly a >hide food, is it? Comes out of a hole in the ground, you know... > >>Glen > > ________________________________ >_______________________________________________ >Rovernet mailing list >Rovernet at rovernet.ca >Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: >http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >Here are the old Rovernet archives: >http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100127/185a8461/attachment-0001.html> From gofanu at cust.usachoice.net Thu Jan 28 02:42:35 2010 From: gofanu at cust.usachoice.net (Fletcher Millmore) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 02:42:35 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] leather Message-ID: <4B613FEB.6040607@usachoice.net> See www.leatherique.com I did an XJ6 that looked like well done bacon, hard as a stone, and the only place that didn't come out like new was the top of the rear seats where it was already bacon crumbles. Soaked it and let it sit in the sun for a couple of weeks, reapplying every time it all disappeared. Later did some TF seats, and they came out the same, so I did my couch and boots and motorcycle jacket. They also do dyes, crack fillers, etc , as well as oils. Good enough for the Smithsonian, Ford Museum, Harrah's, and the RROC. I found them most helpful on the phone, and got a significant price break for buying several quarts. FRM From gofanu at cust.usachoice.net Thu Jan 28 02:45:56 2010 From: gofanu at cust.usachoice.net (Fletcher Millmore) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 02:45:56 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] leather 2 Message-ID: <4B6140B4.1000000@usachoice.net> And you do not try to clean the leather until AFTER you get it oiled and soft, else you force the dirt inwards. The oil brings the crap to the surface and gets cleaned off later. FRM From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Thu Jan 28 04:28:05 2010 From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:28:05 +0100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Creams or Conditioners for LeatherCar Seats In-Reply-To: <455565.36751.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: 25 Jan<BAY120-W13C5095B3D75E94FE1BBD3B85D0@phx.gbl><000601ca9f75$260d3430$72279c90$@ca><4B60B2F7.5070105@comcast.net><BLU146-DS7A291A657CF4CE8529F62B85D0@phx.gbl><4B611B5F.5000401@comcast.net> <455565.36751.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE301CDD6E3@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel> Good solution. Personally I clean the seats with a cloth damped in water, I dry them with another cloth, then I use crema Nivea ( skin cream ) from the blue bottle. A lot of friends - Registro friends I mean - do the same. A bottle is more or less 6 euros, and it lasts for years. best regards, Gianluca. ________________________________ Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Eric Russell Inviato: gioved? 28 gennaio 2010 8.12 A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Creams or Conditioners for LeatherCar Seats Boys,...... boys....... Sheep do well with Lanolin. Try a lanolin based product if you'd like to go "Green".... :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanolin Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ________________________________ From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Wed, January 27, 2010 9:06:39 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Creams or Conditioners for Leather Car Seats Derek Rockford wrote: Glen Wrote: "Not knocking your technique, Patrick, but Vaseline is not exactly a hide food, is it? Comes out of a hole in the ground, you know... "Sounds like someone's knocking. I'm really not knocking it, Derek. Just pointed that out for all of the guys who wax on about leather upholstery being a living, breathing thing. What I doubt is that you can go back to some sort of hide food once you have saturated the leather with a petroleum product. At the same time, I'll say that there are plenty of expensive products out there that do very little to soften up old leather, even if you use their recommended cleaning process before application. Also, I never criticize Patrick because he can be a really mean SOB when you brush his fur the wrong way. Don't believe all that you hear about Canadians all being polite and well-mannered. ;-) Glen It's actually been used before for just that before. I know a guy that's used it on his old Bentley. I've questioned using it on Hands myself because it is a Petroleum product, because of the carcinogen effect, if it's so. I don't think the Leather will develop any issues.Smile emoticon I've seen Leather restored and re-Lacquered etc. I wouldn't do that to my Hands though. I use Connelly's Hide Food and just because it says Hide Food, it's not much of one. Waxy, Sticky when dry if over applied. Great for Leather that's in great shape. I'd say if Vaseline works on the brittle Leather, there's nothing to lose. Hide Food will get You nowhere once the Leather has deteriorated to that extent. Goin back to my Hole in the Ground... Derek From: Glen Wilson <mailto:rovercar at comcast.net> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:41 PM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.ca> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Creams or Conditioners for Leather Car Seats Patrick Hiron wrote: Hi I found a low cost way to revive the acres of dried out leather in my P3 .First I cleaned it all with Lexol cleaner , removing many years worth of gunk .I then fed the leather with - Vaseline - . I massaged two big tubs of Vaseline into the leather and stitching over a period of about a month, applying thin coats , gently rubbing the Vaseline into the surface. The leather absorbed the Vaseline in no time, to become soft and flexible with a nice sheen . Did some one mention a baby's bottom??? The results were excellent and the cost was minimal . Cheers Patrick Not knocking your technique, Patrick, but Vaseline is not exactly a hide food, is it? Comes out of a hole in the ground, you know... Glen ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! <http://www.flickr.com/gift/> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Glen From ve7axq at shaw.ca Fri Jan 29 03:46:23 2010 From: ve7axq at shaw.ca (rick mellenger) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:46:23 -0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Un Roverly language In-Reply-To: <000001caa09d$8ab09b60$a011d220$@ca> References: <000001caa09d$8ab09b60$a011d220$@ca> Message-ID: <000c01caa0bf$89368610$9ba39230$@ca> Just to change the subject a little..lol. what is the favoured SPARK PLUGS. For a 1973 P6 2000TC. With 10 t0 1 compression, and 100 octane fuel.. I recently picked up this car. And my 1st rover. It has only 13,000 miles on it, and has AC DELCO R42XLS. In stalled now, Should I get them out and use CHAMPOINS N6Y, s like is recommended?? Would appreciate any help here. Oh this is my 1st post.. Now returning the forum back to the previously scheduled battle.. hehe. Bad RICK. From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Patrick Hiron Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 8:43 PM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Un Roverly language Glen I'm really not sure why you should consider me to be " A really mean SOB, an impolite ill mannered furry Canadian " I am , in reality, a sensitive soul who has always treated your posts with the respect they deserve. I trust that in future you will remember to engage your brain before letting your fingers run riot over the key board . Patrick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Would appreciate any help here. > > Oh this is my 1^st post.. > > Now returning the forum back to the previously scheduled battle.. hehe. > > Bad RICK. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100129/0ca299aa/attachment.html> From jLewis at wsscwater.com Fri Jan 29 13:36:10 2010 From: jLewis at wsscwater.com (Lewis, Joseph (Michael)) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:36:10 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Un Roverly language In-Reply-To: <4B629D45.4070908@comcast.net> References: <000001caa09d$8ab09b60$a011d220$@ca> <4B629D45.4070908@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1A1EBE4A9FAEEB42911D577E08CA7922098A938F@COB-EXV-01.wssc.ad.root> Wow Glen. Still pissin people off worldwide huh? Last time it was Australia wasn't it? J. Michael Lewis From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Glen Wilson Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 3:33 AM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Un Roverly language Patrick Hiron wrote: Glen I'm really not sure why you should consider me to be " A really mean SOB, an impolite ill mannered furry Canadian " I am , in reality, a sensitive soul who has always treated your posts with the respect they deserve. I trust that in future you will remember to engage your brain before letting your fingers run riot over the key board . Patrick In all fairness, Patrick, I never said you were furry! ;-) GLen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Last time it was Australia wasn?t it? J. Michael Lewis From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Glen Wilson Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 3:33 AM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Un Roverly language Patrick Hiron wrote: Glen I?m really not sure why you should consider me to be ? A really mean SOB, an impolite ill mannered furry Canadian ? I am , in reality, a sensitive soul who has ?always treated your posts with the ?respect they deserve. I trust ?that in future you will remember to engage your brain before letting your fingers run riot over the key board ?. 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You must select a month and "Subject" to get to a listing of topics. I?would suggest starting with "January 2010" where James, Paul, and a few other folk had some views on the?subject. You may have to enter your email address as registered with the Rovernet. In the course of research on the archives you will discover the importance of getting the subject line right in replies as useful information is unfortunately buried in messages with inaccurate Subject lines. When a person clicks on "Reply", the writer has a chance to change the subject line. The Rovernet scene is a bit like a Bitish pub with banter back and forth. Similarly, after a few drinks some people say things which annoy other people for some reason or other and a brief action and reaction occurs. Not that anyone has to be drinking to annoy someone? :-) Usually, most people notice when things are going sideways and will drop the subject and the Rovernet returns to normal. Eric ?"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ________________________________ From: rick mellenger <ve7axq at shaw.ca> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Fri, January 29, 2010 12:46:23 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Un Roverly language Just to change the subject a little..lol. what is the favoured SPARK PLUGS.? For a 1973? P6 2000TC. With 10 t0 1 compression, and 100 octane fuel.. I recently picked up this car. And my 1st rover. It has only 13,000 miles on it, and has? AC DELCO ?R42XLS. In stalled now, ??Should I get them out and use? CHAMPOINS N6Y, s like is recommended?? Would appreciate any help here. Oh this is my 1st post.. Now returning the forum back to the previously scheduled battle.. hehe. ?Bad RICK. ? From:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Patrick Hiron Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 8:43 PM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Un Roverly language ? Glen I?m really not sure why you should consider me to be ? A really mean SOB, an impolite ill mannered furry Canadian ? I am , in reality, a sensitive soul who has ?always treated your posts with the ?respect they deserve. I trust ?that in future you will remember to engage your brain before letting your fingers run riot over the key board ?. Patrick __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You then have to click on the hotlinks provided to read what was said on the subject. On the bottom of each message is a hotlink to the info page which permits you to the archive of messages connected with the current version of the Rovernet. You must select a month and "Subject" to get to a listing of topics. I would suggest starting with "January 2010" where James, Paul, and a few other folk had some views on the subject. You may have to enter your email address as registered with the Rovernet. In the course of research on the archives you will discover the importance of getting the subject line right in replies as useful information is unfortunately buried in messages with inaccurate Subject lines. When a person clicks on "Reply", the writer has a chance to change the subject line. The Rovernet scene is a bit like a Bitish pub with banter back and forth. Similarly, after a few drinks some people say things which annoy other people for some reason or other and a brief action and reaction occurs. Not that anyone has to be drinking to annoy someone :-) Usually, most people notice when things are going sideways and will drop the subject and the Rovernet returns to normal. Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ________________________________ From: rick mellenger <ve7axq at shaw.ca> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Fri, January 29, 2010 12:46:23 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Un Roverly language Just to change the subject a little..lol. what is the favoured SPARK PLUGS. For a 1973 P6 2000TC. With 10 t0 1 compression, and 100 octane fuel.. I recently picked up this car. And my 1st rover. It has only 13,000 miles on it, and has AC DELCO R42XLS. In stalled now, Should I get them out and use CHAMPOINS N6Y, s like is recommended?? Would appreciate any help here. Oh this is my 1st post.. Now returning the forum back to the previously scheduled battle.. hehe. Bad RICK. From:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Patrick Hiron Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 8:43 PM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Un Roverly language Glen I?m really not sure why you should consider me to be ? A really mean SOB, an impolite ill mannered furry Canadian ? I am , in reality, a sensitive soul who has always treated your posts with the respect they deserve. I trust that in future you will remember to engage your brain before letting your fingers run riot over the key board . Patrick ________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift?Give the gift of Flickr! __________________________________________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100129/1b27f296/attachment.html> From rovercar at comcast.net Fri Jan 29 20:14:43 2010 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:14:43 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Un Roverly language In-Reply-To: <1013837786.619711264791390619.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1013837786.619711264791390619.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4B638803.9060305@comcast.net> slatskars at comcast.net wrote: > > I thought that Patrick handled it very well, when he stated that he > gave Glen's posts "all" the respect that they deserved. Very subtle! > > > > Slats > > *: - )* > > > I resemble that remark! Nyuhk! I think that once Patrick realizes that I did not, in fact, call him "furry" he will settle down. Even YOU, Slats, I have never called "furry." Glen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joseph Lewis (Michael)" <jLewis at wsscwater.com> > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 10:36:10 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Un Roverly language > > Wow Glen. Still pissin people off worldwide huh? > > > > Last time it was Australia wasn?t it? > > > > > > **/J. Michael Lewis/** > > > > *From:* rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] *On Behalf Of *Glen Wilson > *Sent:* Friday, January 29, 2010 3:33 AM > *To:* The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > *Subject:* Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Un Roverly language > > > > Patrick Hiron wrote: > > Glen > > I?m really not sure why you should consider me to be ? A really mean > SOB, an impolite ill mannered furry Canadian ? I am , in reality, a > sensitive soul who has > > always treated your posts with the respect they deserve. > > I trust that in future you will remember to engage your brain before > letting your fingers run riot over the key board . > > Patrick > > > In all fairness, Patrick, I never said you were furry! > > ;-) > > GLen > > > _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such > as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the > old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the > Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There is (there are cracks) a crack in one of the nylon outlet tubes or extending to the floor of the nylon reservoir allowing fluid to drip out ** remove and use epoxy glue to repair 3. See if the RCCC has a spare reservoir Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ________________________________ From: Roy Babiuk <rababiuk at telusplanet.net> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Fri, January 29, 2010 6:40:16 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] leaky brake fluid reservoir Now that my fuel leak has been solved, the brake/clutch fluid reservoir has decided that it didn't want to be left out... I have a 1970 series 1 2000 TC with a three line reservoir. Does anyone have any good pictures of the bottom of ANY reservoir so I can determine what I may need to do next. I have tightened the hose clamps joining the rubber tubes to the metal tubes and am patiently waiting to see if any leaks continue. Thanks! 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Albert From den at aachenkennels.com Sat Jan 30 20:21:44 2010 From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 10:21:44 +0900 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] FW: Un Roverly language okay back to cars stuff Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081CDF@Server.adoptsec.local> How do we send in photos chaps. From: Dennis Gallacher Sent: Sunday, 31 January 2010 7:48 AM To: 'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.' Subject: Un Roverly language okay back to cars stuff I?ve been on a few different forums since their inception, unfortunately I?ve also seen many people fall out because of misunderstanding the intent in the written word. One thing I have learnt is not to take offence at someone writing or their ability to explain themselves when reply or making a joke as it can be soooo easy to cause an affront to the reader. Guess they old saying offence taken when offence meant should apply to forums. Any way back to car stuff....went out and bought myself a 35 Riley Falcon ( actually my big Brov paid for it. The deal is I have to fix it which means I get to drive it and that could take a very long time (smile). I also have the 36 rover streamline which has the same size wheel and tyres which would look much better on the riley then the big chucky tread pattern that it has now. I have been doing a bit of research for an article concerning tyres and how best to:- A. Store them before fitting...B How store old and/or new bought old tyres.. C. what to look for if they have been standing for awhile..C. How can you test them if they have been inflated for a very long time but look okay. Which is the case with the old Rover speed 14 as thats been standing since 1966 but not used which is when the Streamline was last on the road. The tyres themselves look okay lots of tread with some small length ways cracks in the side wall on two of them. You have to be mindful of those two poor chaps in UK who where killed when taking and MGB for a road run after a lengthy restoration. That car had even just passed an MOT and on its way to its first show when they had a blow out from one of the old but looking in a safe good condition. I know that new tyres have the date stamp on the side wall and are recommended to replace them after 5 years no matter the tread or condition but then they are on modern cars and as such will be under a lot more of a strain then the Riley that does 0-60 mph....eventually...(smile) actually this thing bloody goes..although I am only guessing as its not road licensed yet...!!!! Den. PS 3 pics attached of the Riley and 3 of the Rover -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100131/782cb5c2/attachment.html> From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat Jan 30 23:14:43 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 20:14:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] FW: Un Roverly language okay back to cars stuff In-Reply-To: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081CDF@Server.adoptsec.local> References: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081CDF@Server.adoptsec.local> Message-ID: <187654.67744.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> At the bottom of every Rovernet message are some tips. This one seems to be related: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ According to Yahoo protocol, you may have to sign up for a free Yahoo email account to post pictures. Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ________________________________ From: Dennis Gallacher <den at aachenkennels.com> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 5:21:44 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] FW: Un Roverly language okay back to cars stuff How do we send in photos chaps. From:Dennis Gallacher Sent: Sunday, 31 January 2010 7:48 AM To: 'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.' Subject: Un Roverly language okay back to cars stuff I?ve been on a few different forums since their inception, unfortunately I?ve also seen many people fall out because of misunderstanding the intent in the written word. One thing I have learnt is not to take offence at someone writing or their ability to explain themselves when reply or making a joke as it can be soooo easy to cause an affront to the reader. Guess they old saying offence taken when offence meant should apply to forums. Any way back to car stuff....went out and bought myself a 35 Riley Falcon ( actually my big Brov paid for it. The deal is I have to fix it which means I get to drive it and that could take a very long time (smile). I also have the 36 rover streamline which has the same size wheel and tyres which would look much better on the riley then the big chucky tread pattern that it has now. I have been doing a bit of research for an article concerning tyres and how best to:- A. Store them before fitting...B How store old and/or new bought old tyres.. C. what to look for if they have been standing for awhile..C. How can you test them if they have been inflated for a very long time but look okay. Which is the case with the old Rover speed 14 as thats been standing since 1966 but not used which is when the Streamline was last on the road. The tyres themselves look okay lots of tread with some small length ways cracks in the side wall on two of them. You have to be mindful of those two poor chaps in UK who where killed when taking and MGB for a road run after a lengthy restoration. That car had even just passed an MOT and on its way to its first show when they had a blow out from one of the old but looking in a safe good condition. I know that new tyres have the date stamp on the side wall and are recommended to replace them after 5 years no matter the tread or condition but then they are on modern cars and as such will be under a lot more of a strain then the Riley that does 0-60 mph....eventually...(smile) actually this thing bloody goes..although I am only guessing as its not road licensed yet...!!!! Den. PS 3 pics attached of the Riley and 3 of the Rover __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Have a look at: http://photobucket.com/ Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ________________________________ From: Dennis Gallacher <den at aachenkennels.com> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 5:21:44 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] FW: Un Roverly language okay back to cars stuff How do we send in photos chaps. From:Dennis Gallacher Sent: Sunday, 31 January 2010 7:48 AM To: 'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.' Subject: Un Roverly language okay back to cars stuff I?ve been on a few different forums since their inception, unfortunately I?ve also seen many people fall out because of misunderstanding the intent in the written word. One thing I have learnt is not to take offence at someone writing or their ability to explain themselves when reply or making a joke as it can be soooo easy to cause an affront to the reader. Guess they old saying offence taken when offence meant should apply to forums. Any way back to car stuff....went out and bought myself a 35 Riley Falcon ( actually my big Brov paid for it. The deal is I have to fix it which means I get to drive it and that could take a very long time (smile). I also have the 36 rover streamline which has the same size wheel and tyres which would look much better on the riley then the big chucky tread pattern that it has now. I have been doing a bit of research for an article concerning tyres and how best to:- A. Store them before fitting...B How store old and/or new bought old tyres.. C. what to look for if they have been standing for awhile..C. How can you test them if they have been inflated for a very long time but look okay. Which is the case with the old Rover speed 14 as thats been standing since 1966 but not used which is when the Streamline was last on the road. The tyres themselves look okay lots of tread with some small length ways cracks in the side wall on two of them. You have to be mindful of those two poor chaps in UK who where killed when taking and MGB for a road run after a lengthy restoration. That car had even just passed an MOT and on its way to its first show when they had a blow out from one of the old but looking in a safe good condition. I know that new tyres have the date stamp on the side wall and are recommended to replace them after 5 years no matter the tread or condition but then they are on modern cars and as such will be under a lot more of a strain then the Riley that does 0-60 mph....eventually...(smile) actually this thing bloody goes..although I am only guessing as its not road licensed yet...!!!! Den. PS 3 pics attached of the Riley and 3 of the Rover __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100130/7d90f7a3/attachment.html> From DevlinS at bp.com Sun Jan 31 02:08:34 2010 From: DevlinS at bp.com (Devlin, Stewart (Contractor)) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 07:08:34 -0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] FW: Un Roverly language okay back tocars stuff In-Reply-To: <286731.50203.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081CDF@Server.adoptsec.local> <286731.50203.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA1574F89BD@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com> I use Photobucket for my Rover pictures and found it much easier than Yahoo and Flikr. Stewart ________________________________ From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Eric Russell Sent: 31 January 2010 06:54 To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] FW: Un Roverly language okay back tocars stuff Hi, I was reading a forum and found another place to post photos. Have a look at: http://photobucket.com/ Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ________________________________ From: Dennis Gallacher <den at aachenkennels.com> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 5:21:44 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] FW: Un Roverly language okay back to cars stuff How do we send in photos chaps. From: Dennis Gallacher Sent: Sunday, 31 January 2010 7:48 AM To: 'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.' Subject: Un Roverly language okay back to cars stuff I've been on a few different forums since their inception, unfortunately I've also seen many people fall out because of misunderstanding the intent in the written word. One thing I have learnt is not to take offence at someone writing or their ability to explain themselves when reply or making a joke as it can be soooo easy to cause an affront to the reader. Guess they old saying offence taken when offence meant should apply to forums. Any way back to car stuff....went out and bought myself a 35 Riley Falcon ( actually my big Brov paid for it. The deal is I have to fix it which means I get to drive it and that could take a very long time (smile). I also have the 36 rover streamline which has the same size wheel and tyres which would look much better on the riley then the big chucky tread pattern that it has now. I have been doing a bit of research for an article concerning tyres and how best to:- A. Store them before fitting...B How store old and/or new bought old tyres.. C. what to look for if they have been standing for awhile..C. How can you test them if they have been inflated for a very long time but look okay. Which is the case with the old Rover speed 14 as thats been standing since 1966 but not used which is when the Streamline was last on the road. The tyres themselves look okay lots of tread with some small length ways cracks in the side wall on two of them. You have to be mindful of those two poor chaps in UK who where killed when taking and MGB for a road run after a lengthy restoration. That car had even just passed an MOT and on its way to its first show when they had a blow out from one of the old but looking in a safe good condition. I know that new tyres have the date stamp on the side wall and are recommended to replace them after 5 years no matter the tread or condition but then they are on modern cars and as such will be under a lot more of a strain then the Riley that does 0-60 mph....eventually...(smile) actually this thing bloody goes..although I am only guessing as its not road licensed yet...!!!! Den. PS 3 pics attached of the Riley and 3 of the Rover ________________________________ The new Internet Explorer(r) 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! <http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100131/07e5b48e/attachment-0001.html> From den at aachenkennels.com Sun Jan 31 08:28:16 2010 From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 22:28:16 +0900 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] FW: Un Roverly language okay back tocars stuff References: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081CDF@Server.adoptsec.local> <187654.67744.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081CE6@Server.adoptsec.local> Anyone help with the inquiry concerning the tyres... From: Dennis Gallacher Sent: Sunday, 31 January 2010 7:48 AM To: 'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.' Subject: Un Roverly language okay back to cars stuff I?ve been on a few different forums since their inception, unfortunately I?ve also seen many people fall out because of misunderstanding the intent in the written word. One thing I have learnt is not to take offence at someone writing or their ability to explain themselves when reply or making a joke as it can be soooo easy to cause an affront to the reader. Guess they old saying offence taken when offence meant should apply to forums. Any way back to car stuff....went out and bought myself a 35 Riley Falcon ( actually my big Brov paid for it. The deal is I have to fix it which means I get to drive it and that could take a very long time (smile). I also have the 36 rover streamline which has the same size wheel and tyres which would look much better on the riley then the big chucky tread pattern that it has now. I have been doing a bit of research for an article concerning tyres and how best to:- A. Store them before fitting...B How store old and/or new bought old tyres.. C. what to look for if they have been standing for awhile..C. How can you test them if they have been inflated for a very long time but look okay. Which is the case with the old Rover speed 14 as thats been standing since 1966 but not used which is when the Streamline was last on the road. The tyres themselves look okay lots of tread with some small length ways cracks in the side wall on two of them. You have to be mindful of those two poor chaps in UK who where killed when taking and MGB for a road run after a lengthy restoration. That car had even just passed an MOT and on its way to its first show when they had a blow out from one of the old but looking in a safe good condition. I know that new tyres have the date stamp on the side wall and are recommended to replace them after 5 years no matter the tread or condition but then they are on modern cars and as such will be under a lot more of a strain then the Riley that does 0-60 mph....eventually...(smile) actually this thing bloody goes..although I am only guessing as its not road licensed yet...!!!! Den. 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100131/9b40bd4f/attachment.html> From DevlinS at bp.com Sun Jan 31 08:37:27 2010 From: DevlinS at bp.com (Devlin, Stewart (Contractor)) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 13:37:27 -0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] FW: Un Roverly language okay backtocars stuff In-Reply-To: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081CE6@Server.adoptsec.local> References: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081CDF@Server.adoptsec.local><187654.67744.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081CE6@Server.adoptsec.local> Message-ID: <CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA1574F89BF@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com> Hi Den, I'm no expert but I would not even consider putting tyres that old on the road. OK to move a car around the yard but the consequences of a blow-out at speed are not worth it. Remember the old adage about spoiling a ship for a ha'penny worth of tar, I would buy some new tyres just before the car was ready for the road. Regards Stewart ________________________________ From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Dennis Gallacher Sent: 31 January 2010 13:28 To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] FW: Un Roverly language okay backtocars stuff Anyone help with the inquiry concerning the tyres... From: Dennis Gallacher Sent: Sunday, 31 January 2010 7:48 AM To: 'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.' Subject: Un Roverly language okay back to cars stuff I've been on a few different forums since their inception, unfortunately I've also seen many people fall out because of misunderstanding the intent in the written word. One thing I have learnt is not to take offence at someone writing or their ability to explain themselves when reply or making a joke as it can be soooo easy to cause an affront to the reader. Guess they old saying offence taken when offence meant should apply to forums. Any way back to car stuff....went out and bought myself a 35 Riley Falcon ( actually my big Brov paid for it. The deal is I have to fix it which means I get to drive it and that could take a very long time (smile). I also have the 36 rover streamline which has the same size wheel and tyres which would look much better on the riley then the big chucky tread pattern that it has now. I have been doing a bit of research for an article concerning tyres and how best to:- A. Store them before fitting...B How store old and/or new bought old tyres.. C. what to look for if they have been standing for awhile..C. How can you test them if they have been inflated for a very long time but look okay. Which is the case with the old Rover speed 14 as thats been standing since 1966 but not used which is when the Streamline was last on the road. The tyres themselves look okay lots of tread with some small length ways cracks in the side wall on two of them. You have to be mindful of those two poor chaps in UK who where killed when taking and MGB for a road run after a lengthy restoration. That car had even just passed an MOT and on its way to its first show when they had a blow out from one of the old but looking in a safe good condition. I know that new tyres have the date stamp on the side wall and are recommended to replace them after 5 years no matter the tread or condition but then they are on modern cars and as such will be under a lot more of a strain then the Riley that does 0-60 mph....eventually...(smile) actually this thing bloody goes..although I am only guessing as its not road licensed yet...!!!! Den. PS 3 pics attached of the Riley and 3 of the Rover ________________________________ The new Internet Explorer(r) 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! <http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100131/a070db75/attachment-0001.html> From slatskars at comcast.net Sun Jan 31 11:33:39 2010 From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:33:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] FW: Un Roverly language okay backtocars stuff In-Reply-To: <CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA1574F89BF@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com> Message-ID: <1857495109.1130221264955619699.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I remember very well from Aircraft Maintenance Officers school, that it was taught, that rubber essentially had a shelf life of five years. In actual practice, aircraft tires really were discarded at five years. Yes, brand new tire, date code five years, over the side. Multi-million dollar jet landing on a carrier, you do not want old rubber. Many folks call a carrier landing, a controlled crash. On a collector car generally garaged, I would probably draw the line at ten years max. Sun is the worst enemy of rubber and these vintage vehicles are generally garaged. I also remember that additives were added to the rubber formula to reduce the ozone effects. One in particular was UOP (Union Oil Product) 88. With most of our tires coming from China, Korea, etc., who knows what has been formulated. Slats -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20100131/1d395936/attachment.html> From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sun Jan 31 12:01:10 2010 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 09:01:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] FW: Un Roverly language okay back tocars stuff In-Reply-To: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081CE6@Server.adoptsec.local> References: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081CDF@Server.adoptsec.local> <187654.67744.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081CE6@Server.adoptsec.local> Message-ID: <935831.95210.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I noticed this note at the bottom of a message: "Den. PS 3 pics attached of the Riley and 3 of the Rover" Just a reminder. The Rovernet server does not accept attachments such as photos for security reasons. References: http://homepage.cem.itesm.mx/rogomez/Publicaciones/i2cs06.pdf http://www.ualberta.ca/~pletendr/list-net.html Eric __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ From den at aachenkennels.com Sun Jan 31 18:32:49 2010 From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 08:32:49 +0900 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] blog or bog.... References: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081CDF@Server.adoptsec.local><187654.67744.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com><73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081CE6@Server.adoptsec.local> <935831.95210.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081CE9@Server.adoptsec.local> Thanks for the info on the photos chaps. The good wife has often said I should start a 'blog' page, thought that was something to do with the toilet and all the young kids had bowel issues...(smile). How do you start your own blog page.? Just a reminder. The Rovernet server does not accept attachments such as photos for security reasons. References: http://homepage.cem.itesm.mx/rogomez/Publicaciones/i2cs06.pdf http://www.ualberta.ca/~pletendr/list-net.html Eric __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer(r) 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From peter_m at amnet.net.au Sun Jan 31 19:18:18 2010 From: peter_m at amnet.net.au (Peter Mitchell) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 08:18:18 +0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Starting a blog In-Reply-To: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081CE9@Server.adoptsec.local> References: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081CDF@Server.adoptsec.local><187654.67744.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com><73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081CE6@Server.adoptsec.local> <935831.95210.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081CE9@Server.adoptsec.local> Message-ID: <001201caa2d4$0e421a20$2ac64e60$@net.au> Hi Den and members, To start a blog, try Blogger.com: https://www.blogger.com/start It is quite simple and even I have managed to start one (see below link) to record the work done on my car: http://peter-myroverp6b.blogspot.com/ Happy blogging... Peter Mitchell E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.14250 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ From peterhut at activ8.net.au Sun Jan 31 19:41:24 2010 From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier) Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 11:41:24 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Starting a blog In-Reply-To: <001201caa2d4$0e421a20$2ac64e60$@net.au> References: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081CDF@Server.adoptsec.local><187654.67744.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com><73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081CE6@Server.adoptsec.local> <935831.95210.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081CE9@Server.adoptsec.local> <001201caa2d4$0e421a20$2ac64e60$@net.au> Message-ID: <2k8cm5debsap9gp98v9060b3c357sojsbv@4ax.com> On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 08:18:18 +0800, you wrote: >Hi Den and members, > >To start a blog, try Blogger.com: https://www.blogger.com/start If you dont want to go the way of Blogging, you can just open a photo account with Flickr. I have a couple of Pro accounts including one for RCCA, but normal ones are free. You just upload your photos and you can choose who you want to view them. http://www.flickr.com/ Cheers, Peter Huttemeier Webmaster Rover Car Club of Australia Inc http://www.rovercarclubaust.asn.au/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/