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From giannid at bigpond.com Fri May 1 22:37:38 2009
From: giannid at bigpond.com (Gianni D'Ortenzio)
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 12:37:38 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] San Francisco
Message-ID: <7EAD7E3FEEE74AC8892210B286C22EB8@Giannis>
I am visiting SF late May for 8 days and wondering if there are any
Roverites in SF that might like to catch up!
I'd love to see what is happening in the states with Rovers
have lots of P5. P6 parts that I could smuggle in my hand luggage, though a
friend who brought back P3 engine mounts for me from the UK had terrible
trouble at every airport with the funny looking heavy items in his hand
luggage!
Cheers Gianni
1948 Rover 75, P3 four light
1949 Rover 75, P3 six light
1969 Rover P5B coupe (5 litre, 5-speed manual)
1971 Rover P6B 3500
1974 Rover P6B 3500S
2004 Land Rover Defender (don't ask why)
From kkinard at att.net Sat May 2 08:06:33 2009
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 07:06:33 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] San Francisco
In-Reply-To: <7EAD7E3FEEE74AC8892210B286C22EB8@Giannis>
References: <7EAD7E3FEEE74AC8892210B286C22EB8@Giannis>
Message-ID: <49FC3749.8090501@att.net>
Gianni D'Ortenzio wrote:
> I am visiting SF late May for 8 days and wondering if there are any
> Roverites in SF that might like to catch up!
> I'd love to see what is happening in the states with Rovers
Hi Gianni,
Too bad you are not coming through Texas. I would like to hear more
details of your P5B Coupe with 5 litre engine and five speed
transmission. How did you achieve 5 litres? Which five speed transmission?
I have several 5 litre and 5.1 litre "Rover" engines but they all use
cast iron blocks.
Roverly,
Kent K.
From dirk at vy-tek.com Sat May 2 15:25:12 2009
From: dirk at vy-tek.com (Dirk Burrowes)
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 15:25:12 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 2
In-Reply-To: <mailman.7.1241280006.17465.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
Message-ID: <07F426B71B3F4AFABA6C9941D32F8CBB@DirkPC2>
Hello Gianni,
Now if you can stop in Boston on your way home we are having our big Rover
event on June 12th through the 14th. Many of your friends here online will
be here along with many wonderful Rovers. In fact I am working hard to have
my P3 done for then. We will pick you up at the airport, feed you and have a
place for you to stay. Try and make it
Dirk
978-502-2289 cell
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Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 12:37:38 +1000
From: "Gianni D'Ortenzio" <giannid at bigpond.com>
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] San Francisco
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
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I am visiting SF late May for 8 days and wondering if there are any
Roverites in SF that might like to catch up!
I'd love to see what is happening in the states with Rovers
have lots of P5. P6 parts that I could smuggle in my hand luggage, though a
friend who brought back P3 engine mounts for me from the UK had terrible
trouble at every airport with the funny looking heavy items in his hand
luggage!
Cheers Gianni
1948 Rover 75, P3 four light
1949 Rover 75, P3 six light
1969 Rover P5B coupe (5 litre, 5-speed manual)
1971 Rover P6B 3500
1974 Rover P6B 3500S
2004 Land Rover Defender (don't ask why)
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 07:06:33 -0500
From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] San Francisco
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Message-ID: <49FC3749.8090501 at att.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Gianni D'Ortenzio wrote:
> I am visiting SF late May for 8 days and wondering if there are any
> Roverites in SF that might like to catch up!
> I'd love to see what is happening in the states with Rovers
Hi Gianni,
Too bad you are not coming through Texas. I would like to hear more details
of your P5B Coupe with 5 litre engine and five speed transmission. How did
you achieve 5 litres? Which five speed transmission?
I have several 5 litre and 5.1 litre "Rover" engines but they all use cast
iron blocks.
Roverly,
Kent K.
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From giannid at bigpond.com Sat May 2 19:36:45 2009
From: giannid at bigpond.com (Gianni D'Ortenzio)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 09:36:45 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] San Francisco
References: <7EAD7E3FEEE74AC8892210B286C22EB8@Giannis>
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Hi Kent
will get to Texas one day
got lots of relatives in many states ( it's the Italian background!)
I started with a 3.5 block from a 3500S
it was bored and sleeved to take pistons from a 6 cylinder Ford Falcon
available in Australia (strong sturdy cheaply available and give desired
capacity)
a stroker crank made in Melbourne (modelled on the Leyland P76 V8 crank)
Rover connecting rods with a little fashioning required to fit
Range Rover 4.6 heads with bigger valves, stronger springs and steel shims
between valves and head (Rover have nothing there)
new all metal timing gear
quite a bit of a shave of the heads and decking of block to get compression
right (bit of a known recipe in Australia, used to beef up Rangies to 5
litre)
I found an Offenhauser 16 port manifold on ebay and topped with a Holley
stage one camshaft
modified exhaust to dual pipes (running through subframe hole on driver side
where handbrake and heater hoses where but easily re-routed)
and then....vroom vroom vroom
the gearbox is Toyota Supra, you need the long throw (24 &1/2 inches) and as
a unit is perfectly matched to either the 3.5 I had it on first or this
motor
I also did a brake modification which allows bolt on double ventilated
performance rotors with modern two pot (Ford again) callipers, using a
tophat to fit the Rover Hubs and an adaptor to bolt the new callipers onto
the backing plate
It now goes and stops.....if only it steered better!!
unbelievable torque, barely need to change gears once in 5th
we were aiming for a low revving high torque motor and am very pleased with
he result, especially since I took it to a friend locally ( Norton
motorcycle nut) and asked for a standard rebuild and he just said...Why...it
will be cheaper to modify and the rest is history ...of course he was wrong
it wasn't cheaper once we did all the other mods required but the engine
itself was a is to all intents and purposes a Rover alloy V8 to external
appearances!
all looks a treat, can send pics if you are interested
Gianni
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at att.net>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] San Francisco
> Gianni D'Ortenzio wrote:
>> I am visiting SF late May for 8 days and wondering if there are any
>> Roverites in SF that might like to catch up!
>> I'd love to see what is happening in the states with Rovers
> Hi Gianni,
> Too bad you are not coming through Texas. I would like to hear more
> details of your P5B Coupe with 5 litre engine and five speed transmission.
> How did you achieve 5 litres? Which five speed transmission?
>
> I have several 5 litre and 5.1 litre "Rover" engines but they all use cast
> iron blocks.
>
> Roverly,
> Kent K.
>
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From giannid at bigpond.com Sat May 2 19:41:31 2009
From: giannid at bigpond.com (Gianni D'Ortenzio)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 09:41:31 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 2
References: <07F426B71B3F4AFABA6C9941D32F8CBB@DirkPC2>
Message-ID: <0E5E1B8504B24EBEBE796A158AB7CF01@Giannis>
Hello Dirk
now that I would dearly love to see!
unfortunately I have to be back in Australia by end of May and am off to
Lake Eyre (google: lake eyre sailing)
it is a great inland sea in central Australia which is currently filling up
and it teems with bird life and fish for a brief period before returning to
salt flats where land speed records are attempted (remember the bluebird?)
But with your fantastic and generous offer I will have to try for that next
year!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dirk Burrowes" <dirk at vy-tek.com>
To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 5:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 2
> Hello Gianni,
>
> Now if you can stop in Boston on your way home we are having our big Rover
> event on June 12th through the 14th. Many of your friends here online will
> be here along with many wonderful Rovers. In fact I am working hard to
> have
> my P3 done for then. We will pick you up at the airport, feed you and have
> a
> place for you to stay. Try and make it
>
> Dirk
> 978-502-2289 cell
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 12:37:38 +1000
> From: "Gianni D'Ortenzio" <giannid at bigpond.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] San Francisco
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
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> I am visiting SF late May for 8 days and wondering if there are any
> Roverites in SF that might like to catch up!
> I'd love to see what is happening in the states with Rovers
>
> have lots of P5. P6 parts that I could smuggle in my hand luggage, though
> a
> friend who brought back P3 engine mounts for me from the UK had terrible
> trouble at every airport with the funny looking heavy items in his hand
> luggage!
> Cheers Gianni
> 1948 Rover 75, P3 four light
> 1949 Rover 75, P3 six light
> 1969 Rover P5B coupe (5 litre, 5-speed manual)
> 1971 Rover P6B 3500
> 1974 Rover P6B 3500S
> 2004 Land Rover Defender (don't ask why)
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 07:06:33 -0500
> From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] San Francisco
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Message-ID: <49FC3749.8090501 at att.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
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> Gianni D'Ortenzio wrote:
>> I am visiting SF late May for 8 days and wondering if there are any
>> Roverites in SF that might like to catch up!
>> I'd love to see what is happening in the states with Rovers
> Hi Gianni,
> Too bad you are not coming through Texas. I would like to hear more
> details
> of your P5B Coupe with 5 litre engine and five speed transmission. How
> did
> you achieve 5 litres? Which five speed transmission?
>
> I have several 5 litre and 5.1 litre "Rover" engines but they all use cast
> iron blocks.
>
> Roverly,
> Kent K.
>
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From pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net Sat May 2 20:50:21 2009
From: pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net (pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 17:50:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Brake lights/relay 67 TC
In-Reply-To: <0E5E1B8504B24EBEBE796A158AB7CF01@Giannis>
Message-ID: <20384.63597.qm@web83007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hello to all!
?
I added the relay as discussed and it works great!
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The?brake light switch is used to energize the relay only,?the dry contacts on the relay switch on the brake lights perfectly!
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I did buy a new switch and will eventually install it.
?
Cheers,
Peter
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From flynp170 at cablelynx.com Mon May 4 18:59:54 2009
From: flynp170 at cablelynx.com (flynp170 at cablelynx.com)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:59:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1980 SD1 Heads
Message-ID: <58432.206.255.126.52.1241477994.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com>
I'm building an engine for my USA 1980 SD1. I sent the heads off to be
rebuilt. Now they are back and I don't know which is left and right head.
They look interchangeable, are they? Thanks Nick
From kkinard at att.net Mon May 4 20:57:28 2009
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 19:57:28 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1980 SD1 Heads
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Hi Nick,
Yes, they are interchangeable.
If you disassembled the rockers, make sure you get the shafts right side
up or the rockers won't oil properly.
Unless there are signs of wear on the rockers or shafts, I usually do
not disassemble.
Roverly,
Kent K.
flynp170 at cablelynx.com wrote:
> I'm building an engine for my USA 1980 SD1. I sent the heads off to be
> rebuilt. Now they are back and I don't know which is left and right head.
> They look interchangeable, are they? Thanks Nick
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From flynp170 at cablelynx.com Mon May 4 23:39:27 2009
From: flynp170 at cablelynx.com (flynp170 at cablelynx.com)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 20:39:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD 1 Heads
Message-ID: <60468.206.255.126.52.1241494767.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com>
Thanks Kent. Rockers and shafts look ok. So I'll be leaving them alone.
I'm anxious to get finished, I'm trying to do something every day.
Will keep you posted. Nick P.S. don't forget the open invitation to
stop in Oklahoma.
Hi Nick,
Yes, they are interchangeable.
If you disassembled the rockers, make sure you get the shafts right side
up or the rockers won't oil properly.
Unless there are signs of wear on the rockers or shafts, I usually do
not disassemble.
Roverly,
Kent K.
flynp170 at cablelynx.com wrote:
> I'm building an engine for my USA 1980 SD1. I sent the heads off to be
> rebuilt. Now they are back and I don't know which is left and right head.
> They look interchangeable, are they? Thanks Nick
From MarkCoorparoo at aol.com Tue May 5 04:15:52 2009
From: MarkCoorparoo at aol.com (MarkCoorparoo at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 04:15:52 EDT
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 2
Message-ID: <d1f.47b887f5.37314fb8@aol.com>
Arrr Gianni,
Now we know why you have a Defender.
Please be carefull in the extremely saline conditions. I noticed a
couple of months ago that they now have a Club House out there. The Commodore was
on TV here in BrisVegas a month or so ago. I am planning to get out there
one day. Maybe the next flood. I have FD's and 18's, not compatible with the
Lake, unless they get a 70's type flood. I'll get an old Hobie for the
Lake and give it to the Club when I am finished.
Rover content is that I will use my old 4.4 Rangie to get out there, or
its Heir or Successor. Good Series 2 Disco's are getting cheap in
Brissie.
Regards all,
MWJ.
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From kkinard at att.net Tue May 5 08:41:35 2009
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 07:41:35 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] More on Heads VERY IMPORTANT
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Hi Nick,
If you are rebuilding the engine it is very important to install oil
restrictors in either the heads or the block and to replace the cam
bearings. We have had several cases of rod bearing failure in MGBV8
conversions here where the Rover V8 was "rebuilt" with new rod and main
bearings but the cam bearings and rocker shaft/rocker arms were not
renewed. Engines lasted only a few thousand miles before rod bearing
failure. There is too much oil in the top end of the engine, even when
new, and this is aggravated when the rods and mains are replaced (thus
tightening the clearances in the bottom end) and the top end clearances
are not tightened up at the same time.
There are several solutions that do not involve replacing the rocker
arms and shafts. The easiest way (and the only way if you have already
installed new cam bearings) is to fit "oil restrictors" to the oil feed
lines coming from the block into each head. The restrictor is nothing
more than a grub screw with a hole drilled through the middle. They can
be installed in either the heads or the block, one per side.
If you install the restrictors in the heads, the heads will no longer be
interchangeable since the restrictors should both be at the front of the
engine where the oil feed holes come from the block.
I've been trying to find the fitting instructions in Des Hammill's book,
but haven't found them yet.
More later.
Roverly,
Kent K.
From kkinard at att.net Tue May 5 09:44:23 2009
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 08:44:23 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Additional info
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Nick et al,
If you have already assembled the short block, drill the oil feed holes
on the deck surface of the heads for 1/4 inch UNC grub (allen head)
screws drilled through the center to .035-.040in./.75-1.0mm., screws
should be installed so they do not protrude above the deck surface.
Because the heads are manufactured to be interchangeable they have two
oil feed holes, the rearmost feed holes become blind when the heads are
fitted to the block. Therefore, you only need to fit restrictors to the
FRONT hole of each head. Mark the heads Left and Right for reference
since they will no longer be interchangeable.
If you have not yet installed the cam bearings there is an additional
modification that is recommended.
If you have not yet had the block machined, get back to me.
Roverly,
Kent K.
Kent Kinard wrote:
> Hi Nick,
> If you are rebuilding the engine it is very important to install oil
> restrictors in either the heads or the block and to replace the cam
> bearings. We have had several cases of rod bearing failure in MGBV8
> conversions here where the Rover V8 was "rebuilt" with new rod and
> main bearings but the cam bearings and rocker shaft/rocker arms were
> not renewed. Engines lasted only a few thousand miles before rod
> bearing failure. There is too much oil in the top end of the engine,
> even when new, and this is aggravated when the rods and mains are
> replaced (thus tightening the clearances in the bottom end) and the
> top end clearances are not tightened up at the same time.
>
> There are several solutions that do not involve replacing the rocker
> arms and shafts. The easiest way (and the only way if you have
> already installed new cam bearings) is to fit "oil restrictors" to the
> oil feed lines coming from the block into each head. The restrictor
> is nothing more than a grub screw with a hole drilled through the
> middle. They can be installed in either the heads or the block, one
> per side.
>
> If you install the restrictors in the heads, the heads will no longer
> be interchangeable since the restrictors should both be at the front
> of the engine where the oil feed holes come from the block.
>
> I've been trying to find the fitting instructions in Des Hammill's
> book, but haven't found them yet.
>
> More later.
>
> Roverly,
> Kent K.
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From flynp170 at cablelynx.com Tue May 5 13:53:55 2009
From: flynp170 at cablelynx.com (flynp170 at cablelynx.com)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 10:53:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD 1 rebuild oil hole restriction
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Hi Kent , short block is rebuilt. Engine had 75000 miles on it. Cam
bearings looked good and new ,cam felt good and tight[ new cam and
lifters]. I have not restricted oil flow to rockers.Your recomendation is
to put restrictors in heads if block is built? I have Reinforcement Stands
to install on rocker shafts. I've been following D&D's recomendations so
far. Thanks Nick
From nash4447 at cs.com Tue May 5 16:11:36 2009
From: nash4447 at cs.com (nash4447 at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 16:11:36 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD 1 Heads
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Hi Nick
Who rebuilt the shortblock for you?? Was reboring necessary or did you stick with standard size on everything? Were new pistons needed or were the originals serviceable?
Thanks !?? Glenn?? Los Angeles
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Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD 1 Heads
Thanks Kent. Rockers and shafts look ok. So I'll be leaving them alone.
I'm anxious to get finished, I'm trying to do something every day.
Will keep you posted. Nick P.S. don't forget the open invitation to
stop in Oklahoma.
Hi Nick,
Yes, they are interchangeable.
If you disassembled the rockers, make sure you get the shafts right side
up or the rockers won't oil properly.
Unless there are signs of wear on the rockers or shafts, I usually do
not disassemble.
Roverly,
Kent K.
flynp170 at cablelynx.com wrote:
> I'm building an engine for my USA 1980 SD1. I sent the heads off to be
> rebuilt. Now they are back and I don't know which is left and right head.
> They look interchangeable, are they? Thanks Nick
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From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 15:17:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals
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Hi,
Does anyone know which of the two valve guide seals in a 2000 engine is smaller?
The inlet?
The exhaust?
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Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 08:22:19 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals
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Exhaust have smaller diameter stems than inlets.
PVS
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Hi,
Does anyone know which of the two valve guide seals in a 2000 engine is smaller?
The inlet?
The exhaust?
TIA
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Thanks, Paul.
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--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Paul Smith <Paul.Smith at transend.com.au> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals
> To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
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> Exhaust have smaller diameter stems
> than inlets.
>
> PVS
>
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> seals
>
>
> Hi,
> Does anyone know which of the two valve guide seals in a
> 2000 engine is smaller?
>
> The inlet?
> The exhaust?
>
> TIA
>
> Eric
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Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 15:29:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals
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--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Paul Smith <Paul.Smith at transend.com.au> wrote:
> Exhaust have smaller diameter stems than inlets.
Now that I have the seals sorted..... :-)
Would you know the diameter of the stems? I seem to have about 8 of one valve guide or the other NOS. I'd prefer knowing which I have.
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From Paul.Smith at transend.com.au Tue May 5 18:41:59 2009
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Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 08:41:59 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals
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Ahhh not off my memory.
It is in the manual, but that is at home.
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--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Paul Smith <Paul.Smith at transend.com.au> wrote:
> Exhaust have smaller diameter stems than inlets.
Now that I have the seals sorted..... :-)
Would you know the diameter of the stems? I seem to have about 8 of one valve guide or the other NOS. I'd prefer knowing which I have.
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From vern at inkspotco.com Tue May 5 18:46:15 2009
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Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals
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I've looked it up, inlet is .3145", exhaust is .3415"
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> --- On Tue, 5/5/09, Paul Smith <Paul.Smith at transend.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Exhaust have smaller diameter stems than inlets.
>
> Now that I have the seals sorted..... :-)
>
> Would you know the diameter of the stems? I seem to have about 8 of
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> Eric
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From flynp170 at cablelynx.com Tue May 5 19:07:30 2009
From: flynp170 at cablelynx.com (flynp170 at cablelynx.com)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 16:07:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD 1 Engine rebuild
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Hi Glenn, I rebuilt the short block myself. I got all the parts and a lot
of good advice from Mark at D&D in MI.
http://www.aluminumv8.com/contact/contact.htm
I had the
block bored
20 over and
raised the
compression.
Crank was
ground 10/10.
Nick
Hi Nick
Who rebuilt the shortblock for you?? Was reboring necessary or did you
stick with
standard size on everything? Were new pistons needed or were the originals
serviceable?
Thanks !?? Glenn?? Los Angeles
From irishrover1 at sympatico.ca Tue May 5 19:09:25 2009
From: irishrover1 at sympatico.ca (BEN RODGERS)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 20:09:25 -0300
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] question?
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Hi Folks
My Series Two TC has the same trunk lid addition as the P6B's
for the spare wheel. My question is, has anyone found a way to install the
spare on the lid without marking the paint work. I'd like to put the wheel
there but hesitate because of the probable damage to the paint. I used to
put the wheel there on my last P6B and used a lambs wool cover under the
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From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Tue May 5 22:01:04 2009
From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 11:31:04 +0930
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals
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Hi Eric
From the Autobooks workshop manual for the 2000 & 2200
Dimensions for the 2000 & 2200 identical at ..........
Inlet stem - 0.3145
Exhaust stem 0.3145
Guide bore
Inlet - 0.315
Exhaust - 0.3438
Inlet valve head dia
1.654 - 1.65
Exhaust valve head dia
2000 - 1.341 - 1.337
2200 - 1.462 - 1.466
Cheers
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> Eric wrote: .....
>
> Now that I have the seals sorted..... :-)
>
> Would you know the diameter of the stems? I seem to have about 8 of one valve guide or the other NOS. I'd prefer knowing which I have.
>
> Eric
From vern at inkspotco.com Tue May 5 23:00:33 2009
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 20:00:33 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals
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I've looked it up, inlet is .3145", exhaust is .3415"
Yours
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> Ahhh not off my memory.
> It is in the manual, but that is at home.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Tue, 5/5/09, Paul Smith <Paul.Smith at transend.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Exhaust have smaller diameter stems than inlets.
>
> Now that I have the seals sorted..... :-)
>
> Would you know the diameter of the stems? I seem to have about 8 of
> one valve guide or the other NOS. I'd prefer knowing which I have.
>
> Eric
>
>
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From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 20:04:28 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals
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Hi Dave
I'm afraid that is a misprint (or a misread). Inlet is .3145, exhaust
is .3415. This from the official workshop manual. Tricky, because they
have only two digits transposed between the two, but the metric
measurement confirms that they are different.
Yours
Vern
On 5-May-09, at 7:01 PM, David Read wrote:
> Hi Eric
> From the Autobooks workshop manual for the 2000 & 2200
> Dimensions for the 2000 & 2200 identical at ..........
> Inlet stem - 0.3145
> Exhaust stem 0.3145
>
> Guide bore
> Inlet - 0.315
> Exhaust - 0.3438
>
> Inlet valve head dia
> 1.654 - 1.65
>
> Exhaust valve head dia
> 2000 - 1.341 - 1.337
> 2200 - 1.462 - 1.466
>
> Cheers
> Dave
> South Oz
>
>> Eric wrote: .....
>> Now that I have the seals sorted..... :-)
>> Would you know the diameter of the stems? I seem to have about 8
>> of one valve guide or the other NOS. I'd prefer knowing which I have.
>> Eric
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue May 5 23:09:37 2009
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 20:09:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals
Message-ID: <508075.1272.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Thanks all.
Got the seals sorted.
Working on the valve guides at the moment. Wondering if I have more than one type of Rover guide.
Eric
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--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote:
> From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 8:04 PM
> Hi Dave
>
> I'm afraid that is a misprint (or a misread). Inlet is
> .3145, exhaust is .3415. This from the official workshop
> manual. Tricky, because they have only two digits transposed
> between the two, but the metric measurement confirms that
> they are different.
>
> Yours
> Vern
>
> On 5-May-09, at 7:01 PM, David Read wrote:
>
> > Hi Eric
> > From the Autobooks workshop manual for the 2000 &
> 2200
> > Dimensions for the 2000 & 2200 identical at
> ..........
> > Inlet stem - 0.3145
> > Exhaust stem 0.3145
> >
> > Guide bore
> > Inlet - 0.315
> > Exhaust - 0.3438
> >
> > Inlet valve head dia
> > 1.654 - 1.65
> >
> > Exhaust valve head dia
> > 2000 - 1.341 - 1.337
> > 2200 - 1.462 - 1.466
> >
> > Cheers
> > Dave
> > South Oz
> >
> >> Eric wrote: .....
> >> Now that I have the seals sorted..... :-)
> >> Would you know the diameter of the stems?? I
> seem to have about 8 of one valve guide or the other NOS.
> I'd prefer knowing which I have.
> >> Eric
> >
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From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Wed May 6 01:04:14 2009
From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 14:34:14 +0930
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals -oops!
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Yes Vern - Senior Moment, you are correct
;-)
Eric, from Autobooks workshop manual for the 2000 & 2200
Valve guides
Bore dia -
In - 0.315
Ex - 0.3438
Bore length
In - 2.525 to 2.531
Ex - 2.525 to 2.531
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
Vern Klukas wrote:
> Hi Dave
>
> I'm afraid that is a misprint (or a misread). Inlet is .3145, exhaust is
> .3415. This from the official workshop manual. Tricky, because they have
> only two digits transposed between the two, but the metric measurement
> confirms that they are different.
>
> Yours
> Vern
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Wed May 6 01:30:20 2009
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 22:30:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals -oops!
Message-ID: <319420.86896.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Excellent.
Thanks very much, Dave.
Eric
Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada
Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/
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--- On Tue, 5/5/09, David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> From: David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals -oops!
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 10:04 PM
> Yes Vern - Senior Moment, you are
> correct
> ;-)
>
> Eric, from Autobooks workshop manual for the 2000 &
> 2200
>
> Valve guides
> Bore dia -
> In - 0.315
> Ex - 0.3438
>
> Bore length
> In - 2.525 to 2.531
> Ex - 2.525 to 2.531
>
> Cheers
> Dave
> South Oz
>
>
> Vern Klukas wrote:
> > Hi Dave
> >
> > I'm afraid that is a misprint (or a misread). Inlet is
> .3145, exhaust is .3415. This from the official workshop
> manual. Tricky, because they have only two digits transposed
> between the two, but the metric measurement confirms that
> they are different.
> >
> > Yours
> > Vern
>
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From roverfreak619 at yahoo.com Wed May 6 02:26:55 2009
From: roverfreak619 at yahoo.com (Rover freak)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 23:26:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] To Eric//// valve guide seals
Message-ID: <603295.97930.qm@web111305.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
To / Eric.
?? The intake Seals are smaller and the exhaust seals are larger,, you and measure them,, they are very much the same,, but when you put the valvs in you would notice a slight difference.? From Nelson of California
P4 Rovers
P6 Rovers
Hi,
Does anyone know which of the two valve guide seals in a 2000 engine is smaller?
The inlet?
The exhaust?
TIA
Eric
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From flynp170 at cablelynx.com Wed May 6 18:51:37 2009
From: flynp170 at cablelynx.com (flynp170 at cablelynx.com)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 15:51:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD 1 rebuild oil hole restriction
Message-ID: <50759.206.255.126.52.1241650297.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com>
Hi Kent, drilling holes in grub/set screws, is not easy! They are very
hard. I ended up heating them cherry red and let them cool. That softened
them enough ,for me to be able to drill them. I was very careful and put
them in the block. I let the grub screw act as them tap.
40th looks very small, so I ended up using a 1/16 hole. I'll will
have to wait and see if that was a good decision. It still looks a
very small hole. Thanks for your help Nick
From kr5927 at gmail.com Wed May 6 22:27:41 2009
From: kr5927 at gmail.com (Kevin Ross)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 22:27:41 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1971 Rover 2000 TC for Sale (Parts Car)
Message-ID: <60cf9fc10905061927y3cf22d0am9cd662a28402e13e@mail.gmail.com>
Hi:
I have a Rover 2000 TC for Sale... for parts. I am located in Burlington,
Ontario, Canada. Best Offer...
Photos are available upon request.
Thanks.
Regards,
Kevin.
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From lacpsyd6 at msn.com Wed May 6 23:41:24 2009
From: lacpsyd6 at msn.com (LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 21:41:24 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Archimedes odometer
Message-ID: <COL111-DS18A6D30C661FBFC709380283670@phx.gbl>
Hey gang,
Here's an obscure reference to Rover and the great Archimedes. Did any of
you catch the History channel the other night which featured a re-creation
of Archimedes' odometer (yes, he's the one who is credited with inventing
the first one). Out of the blue they are making a reference to the odometer
in automobiles and they feature exterior and interior (instrument) photos of
a P4 (possibly a P3?----I'm one of those ignorant P6 owners who is not as
sharp on the other Rover models!!!). Why in the world they featured an
antique Rover is clearly a mystery!!! Maybe the producer had a Rover and put
the 'screws'(LOL, partially obscure joke!!) to the director!!!!
Lance La Certe, Psy.D. '70 3500S
From Paul.Smith at transend.com.au Wed May 6 23:45:21 2009
From: Paul.Smith at transend.com.au (Paul Smith)
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 13:45:21 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Archimedes odometer
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Tsk tsk.
There was a line in Freewheeling once:
"Half these people driving P6s wouldn't know a P4 for a Rover."
PVS
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, 7 May 2009 1:41 PM
To: Rovernet
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Archimedes odometer
Hey gang,
Here's an obscure reference to Rover and the great Archimedes. Did any of
you catch the History channel the other night which featured a re-creation
of Archimedes' odometer (yes, he's the one who is credited with inventing
the first one). Out of the blue they are making a reference to the odometer
in automobiles and they feature exterior and interior (instrument) photos of
a P4 (possibly a P3?----I'm one of those ignorant P6 owners who is not as
sharp on the other Rover models!!!). Why in the world they featured an
antique Rover is clearly a mystery!!! Maybe the producer had a Rover and put
the 'screws'(LOL, partially obscure joke!!) to the director!!!!
Lance La Certe, Psy.D. '70 3500S
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From rovercar at comcast.net Thu May 7 05:31:24 2009
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 05:31:24 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Archimedes odometer
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Paul Smith wrote:
> Tsk tsk.
> There was a line in Freewheeling once:
> "Half these people driving P6s wouldn't know a P4 for a Rover."
>
> PVS
>
Insufficient population density of doctors and college professors in
Colorado in the 40's and 50's to support a market for Rovers.
Lance's parents were early French Jesuit missionary-explorers who moved
west to shoot buffalo and carrier pigeons but later turned to the
practice of psychology in order to purchase proper automobiles.
;-)
Glen
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE
> Sent: Thursday, 7 May 2009 1:41 PM
> To: Rovernet
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Archimedes odometer
>
> Hey gang,
>
> Here's an obscure reference to Rover and the great Archimedes. Did any of
> you catch the History channel the other night which featured a re-creation
> of Archimedes' odometer (yes, he's the one who is credited with inventing
> the first one). Out of the blue they are making a reference to the odometer
> in automobiles and they feature exterior and interior (instrument) photos of
> a P4 (possibly a P3?----I'm one of those ignorant P6 owners who is not as
> sharp on the other Rover models!!!). Why in the world they featured an
> antique Rover is clearly a mystery!!! Maybe the producer had a Rover and put
> the 'screws'(LOL, partially obscure joke!!) to the director!!!!
>
> Lance La Certe, Psy.D. '70 3500S
>
From kkinard at att.net Thu May 7 07:57:17 2009
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 06:57:17 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Archimedes odometer
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<4A02AA6C.9050801@comcast.net>
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Glen Wilson wrote:
> Insufficient population density of doctors and college professors in
> Colorado in the 40's and 50's to support a market for Rovers.
> Lance's parents were early French Jesuit missionary-explorers who
> moved west to shoot buffalo and carrier pigeons but later turned to
> the practice of psychology in order to purchase proper automobiles.
>
> ;-)
>
> Glen
>
Ah, there's the Glen Wilson I know.
Kent K.
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Thu May 7 10:19:23 2009
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 07:19:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Archimedes odometer
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"Sooth, the court jester has returnith". :-)
Eric
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--- On Thu, 5/7/09, Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> wrote:
> From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Archimedes odometer
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 4:57 AM
> Glen Wilson wrote:
> > Insufficient population density of doctors and college
> professors in Colorado in the 40's and 50's to support a
> market for Rovers.
> > Lance's parents were early French Jesuit
> missionary-explorers who moved west to shoot buffalo and
> carrier pigeons but later turned to the practice of
> psychology in order to purchase proper automobiles.
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> > Glen
> >
> Ah, there's the Glen Wilson I know. Kent K.
>
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From kkinard at att.net Thu May 7 16:04:19 2009
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 15:04:19 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD 1 rebuild oil hole restriction
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Hi Nick,
If it works, we'll never know. If it doesn't, we'll find out soon enough.
Roverly,
Kent K.
flynp170 at cablelynx.com wrote:
> Hi Kent, drilling holes in grub/set screws, is not easy! They are very
> hard. I ended up heating them cherry red and let them cool. That softened
> them enough ,for me to be able to drill them. I was very careful and put
> them in the block. I let the grub screw act as them tap.
> 40th looks very small, so I ended up using a 1/16 hole. I'll will
> have to wait and see if that was a good decision. It still looks a
> very small hole. Thanks for your help Nick
>
>
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From vern at inkspotco.com Thu May 7 16:20:23 2009
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 13:20:23 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD 1 rebuild oil hole restriction
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<4A033EC3.8020100@att.net>
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A .0625 hole is a little under 2.5 times as big as a .040 hole in
terms of flow. But it is still 12 times smaller than stock.
Yours
Vern
On 7-May-09, at 1:04 PM, Kent Kinard wrote:
> Hi Nick,
> If it works, we'll never know. If it doesn't, we'll find out soon
> enough.
>
> Roverly,
> Kent K.
>
> flynp170 at cablelynx.com wrote:
>> Hi Kent, drilling holes in grub/set screws, is not easy! They are
>> very
>> hard. I ended up heating them cherry red and let them cool. That
>> softened
>> them enough ,for me to be able to drill them. I was very careful
>> and put
>> them in the block. I let the grub screw act as them tap.
>> 40th looks very small, so I ended up using a 1/16 hole. I'll will
>> have to wait and see if that was a good decision. It still looks a
>> very small hole. Thanks for your help Nick
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From Paul.Smith at transend.com.au Thu May 7 18:02:11 2009
From: Paul.Smith at transend.com.au (Paul Smith)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 08:02:11 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Archimedes odometer
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Gasp, a soothsayer...
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Eric Russell
Sent: Friday, 8 May 2009 12:19 AM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Archimedes odometer
"Sooth, the court jester has returnith". :-)
Eric
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Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/
Webmaster of a variety of sites from:
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--- On Thu, 5/7/09, Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> wrote:
> From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Archimedes odometer
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 4:57 AM
> Glen Wilson wrote:
> > Insufficient population density of doctors and college
> professors in Colorado in the 40's and 50's to support a
> market for Rovers.
> > Lance's parents were early French Jesuit
> missionary-explorers who moved west to shoot buffalo and
> carrier pigeons but later turned to the practice of
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From flynp170 at cablelynx.com Fri May 8 08:30:20 2009
From: flynp170 at cablelynx.com (flynp170 at cablelynx.com)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 05:30:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD 1 rebuild oil hole restriction
Message-ID: <53067.206.255.126.52.1241785820.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com>
Hi, Kent, Vern,
I'll report back when I get her running. 12 times
smaller than stock for a road engine, hopefully is
enough. I got tired of cleaning hardware today; so I
through it all in a bucket and took it to be cleaned
and plated. $5.00 a lb. NEED to get her running!
Nick
A .0625 hole is a little under 2.5 times as big as a .040 hole in
terms of flow. But it is still 12 times smaller than stock.
Yours
Vern
On 7-May-09, at 1:04 PM, Kent Kinard wrote:
> Hi Nick,
> If it works, we'll never know. If it doesn't, we'll find out soon
> enough.
>
> Roverly,
> Kent K.
From lacpsyd6 at msn.com Fri May 8 12:53:24 2009
From: lacpsyd6 at msn.com (LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 10:53:24 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Odometers redux
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Message-ID: <COL111-DS1395AF25FF1D901BC3B94083640@phx.gbl>
Glen has it backwards. My mother was a carrier pigeon and my father a
buffalo. They escaped the French Jesuit missonaries by stowing away on a
Viking ship.
Lance La Certe, Psy.D.
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 15:04:19 -0500
> From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD 1 rebuild oil hole
> restriction
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
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> Hi Nick,
> If it works, we'll never know. If it doesn't, we'll find out soon enough.
>
> Roverly,
> Kent K.
>
> flynp170 at cablelynx.com wrote:
> > Hi Kent, drilling holes in grub/set screws, is not easy! They are very
> > hard. I ended up heating them cherry red and let them cool. That
> > softened
> > them enough ,for me to be able to drill them. I was very careful and put
> > them in the block. I let the grub screw act as them tap.
> > 40th looks very small, so I ended up using a 1/16 hole. I'll will
> > have to wait and see if that was a good decision. It still looks a
> > very small hole. Thanks for your help Nick
> >
> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 13:20:23 -0700
> From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD 1 rebuild oil hole
> restriction
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
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> A .0625 hole is a little under 2.5 times as big as a .040 hole in
> terms of flow. But it is still 12 times smaller than stock.
>
> Yours
> Vern
>
> On 7-May-09, at 1:04 PM, Kent Kinard wrote:
>
> > Hi Nick,
> > If it works, we'll never know. If it doesn't, we'll find out soon
> > enough.
> >
> > Roverly,
> > Kent K.
> >
> > flynp170 at cablelynx.com wrote:
> >> Hi Kent, drilling holes in grub/set screws, is not easy! They are
> >> very
> >> hard. I ended up heating them cherry red and let them cool. That
> >> softened
> >> them enough ,for me to be able to drill them. I was very careful
> >> and put
> >> them in the block. I let the grub screw act as them tap.
> >> 40th looks very small, so I ended up using a 1/16 hole. I'll will
> >> have to wait and see if that was a good decision. It still looks a
> >> very small hole. Thanks for your help Nick
> >>
> >>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 08:02:11 +1000
> From: Paul Smith <Paul.Smith at transend.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Archimedes odometer
> To: 'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'
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> Gasp, a soothsayer...
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Eric Russell
> Sent: Friday, 8 May 2009 12:19 AM
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Archimedes odometer
>
>
> "Sooth, the court jester has returnith". :-)
>
> Eric
>
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> --- On Thu, 5/7/09, Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> wrote:
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> > From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Archimedes odometer
> > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
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> > Received: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 4:57 AM
> > Glen Wilson wrote:
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> > market for Rovers.
> > > Lance's parents were early French Jesuit
> > missionary-explorers who moved west to shoot buffalo and
> > carrier pigeons but later turned to the practice of
> > psychology in order to purchase proper automobiles.
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> > > ;-)
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> Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 05:30:20 -0700 (PDT)
> From: flynp170 at cablelynx.com
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD 1 rebuild oil hole restriction
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> Hi, Kent, Vern,
> I'll report back when I get her running. 12 times
> smaller than stock for a road engine, hopefully is
> enough. I got tired of cleaning hardware today; so I
> through it all in a bucket and took it to be cleaned
> and plated. $5.00 a lb. NEED to get her running!
> Nick
>
>
>
> A .0625 hole is a little under 2.5 times as big as a .040 hole in
> terms of flow. But it is still 12 times smaller than stock.
>
> Yours
> Vern
>
> On 7-May-09, at 1:04 PM, Kent Kinard wrote:
>
> > Hi Nick,
> > If it works, we'll never know. If it doesn't, we'll find out soon
> > enough.
> >
> > Roverly,
> > Kent K.
>
>
>
>
>
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From irishrover1 at sympatico.ca Fri May 8 13:36:05 2009
From: irishrover1 at sympatico.ca (BEN RODGERS)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 14:36:05 -0300
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Odometers redux
References: <mailman.7.1241798421.25498.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
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Would have received much better and speedy service if they'd come by
coracle!
Regards Ben (irishrover)
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From flynp170 at cablelynx.com Sat May 9 21:50:08 2009
From: flynp170 at cablelynx.com (flynp170 at cablelynx.com)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 18:50:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Calling Kent
Message-ID: <50797.206.255.126.52.1241920208.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com>
Kent I tried to reply to your e-mail directly[ att.net] and it keeps
coming back?? Nick
From kkinard at att.net Sat May 9 22:37:30 2009
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 21:37:30 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Calling Kent
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Interesting...
kkinard at att.net
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> Kent I tried to reply to your e-mail directly[ att.net] and it keeps
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From flynp170 at cablelynx.com Sat May 9 23:55:17 2009
From: flynp170 at cablelynx.com (flynp170 at cablelynx.com)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 20:55:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD 1 Hoses
Message-ID: <51885.206.255.126.52.1241927717.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com>
I'm looking for a USA source for hoses. I really need the heater hoses.
Any ideas? Thanks Nick
From Nash4447 at cs.com Sun May 10 00:02:27 2009
From: Nash4447 at cs.com (Nash4447 at cs.com)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 00:02:27 EDT
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD 1 Hoses
Message-ID: <bca.4a609f85.3737abd3@cs.com>
Hi Nick
I found that I could use standard heater hose ( the straight stuff sold by
desired length). It will bend enough without kinking to work fine. Its
just the usual 5/8 or 3/4 inch stuff depending on location.
The upper and lower molded radiator hoses are available from NAPA. Let me
know if you need the numbers.
Glenn Los Angeles
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From flynp170 at cablelynx.com Sun May 10 09:32:32 2009
From: flynp170 at cablelynx.com (flynp170 at cablelynx.com)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 06:32:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD1 Heater Hose
Message-ID: <52087.206.255.126.52.1241962352.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com>
Thanks Glenn, those #'s would come in handy. My local NAPA is not as good
as it used to be. Nick
"The upper and lower molded radiator hoses are available from NAPA. Let me
know if you need the numbers."
From Nash4447 at cs.com Sun May 10 13:09:42 2009
From: Nash4447 at cs.com (Nash4447 at cs.com)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 13:09:42 EDT
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD1 Heater Hose
Message-ID: <c5e.556b9c40.37386456@cs.com>
For the SD1:
Upper radiator hose is # 7715
Lower radiator hose is # 7602
May/may not be shelf stocking items but any NAPA store can order them
easily.
Good luck with your SD1 - I sure like mine.
Glenn Los Angeles
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From kr5927 at gmail.com Sun May 10 23:25:19 2009
From: kr5927 at gmail.com (Kevin Ross)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 23:25:19 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1971 Rover 2000 TC for Sale (Parts
Car)
In-Reply-To: <60cf9fc10905061927y3cf22d0am9cd662a28402e13e@mail.gmail.com>
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Posting photos of 1974 Rover TC 2000. Thanks.
http://www.kwrcomputing.com/chivers/rover/
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Kevin Ross <kr5927 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi:
>
> I have a Rover 2000 TC for Sale... for parts. I am located in Burlington,
> Ontario, Canada. Best Offer...
>
> Photos are available upon request.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> Kevin.
>
>
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From kr5927 at gmail.com Sun May 10 23:36:46 2009
From: kr5927 at gmail.com (Kevin Ross)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 23:36:46 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1971 Rover 2000 TC for Sale (Parts
Car)
In-Reply-To: <60cf9fc10905102025ya8a6d04n4287d28707174de2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <60cf9fc10905061927y3cf22d0am9cd662a28402e13e@mail.gmail.com>
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My apologies... it is a 1971 Rover TC 2000...
http://www.kwrcomputing.com/chivers/rover/
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Kevin Ross <kr5927 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Posting photos of 1974 Rover TC 2000. Thanks.
>
> http://www.kwrcomputing.com/chivers/rover/
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Kevin Ross <kr5927 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi:
>>
>> I have a Rover 2000 TC for Sale... for parts. I am located in Burlington,
>> Ontario, Canada. Best Offer...
>>
>> Photos are available upon request.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kevin.
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> K. Ross
> kr5927 at gmail.com
>
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From irishrover1 at sympatico.ca Mon May 11 07:17:54 2009
From: irishrover1 at sympatico.ca (BEN RODGERS)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 08:17:54 -0300
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1971 Rover 2000 TC for Sale
(PartsCar)
References: <60cf9fc10905061927y3cf22d0am9cd662a28402e13e@mail.gmail.com>
<60cf9fc10905102025ya8a6d04n4287d28707174de2@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Kevin
The car doesn't look too bad in the photos, just a pity we are too far apart or I'd be interested in it. The 71 is a series 2 and quite rare just over 200 were produced. It has a few nice features the early TC lacked. Same dash and gauges as the P6B and the spare wheel can be carried on the trunk lid. What condition and colour is the interior?, and what mileage? I have a TC Series Two. that originally came from Germany, if interested you can see photo on my web page listed below.
Best luck in finding a buyer.
Ben (irishrover)
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From RoverP6 at gmx.de Mon May 11 10:44:21 2009
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 16:44:21 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 Estate + P6 V8 = P6 3500 Estate
References: <60cf9fc10905061927y3cf22d0am9cd662a28402e13e@mail.gmail.com><60cf9fc10905102025ya8a6d04n4287d28707174de2@mail.gmail.com>
<60cf9fc10905102036x392f99e7rdebfeb00b44831d6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B616547E90E74431A89DEBE5F658576E@rw>
http://www.roverp6.info/Fotos/VisitorGallery/Worsfold/Worsfold.htm
Rudiger
From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Mon May 11 11:17:04 2009
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 17:17:04 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: 2000 Estate + P6 V8 = P6 3500 Estate
In-Reply-To: <B616547E90E74431A89DEBE5F658576E@rw>
References: <60cf9fc10905061927y3cf22d0am9cd662a28402e13e@mail.gmail.com><60cf9fc10905102025ya8a6d04n4287d28707174de2@mail.gmail.com><60cf9fc10905102036x392f99e7rdebfeb00b44831d6@mail.gmail.com>
<B616547E90E74431A89DEBE5F658576E@rw>
Message-ID: <AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A02033B06@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel>
Interesting.
It is a pity he did not manage to save both ones, but...
Best regards, gianluca.
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Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di RoverP6 at gmx.de
Inviato: luned? 11 maggio 2009 16.44
A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 Estate + P6 V8 = P6 3500 Estate
http://www.roverp6.info/Fotos/VisitorGallery/Worsfold/Worsfold.htm
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From JYX95K at aol.com Mon May 11 11:39:44 2009
From: JYX95K at aol.com (JYX95K at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:39:44 EDT
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 Estate + P6 V8 = P6 3500 Estate
Message-ID: <cd2.519bc94c.3739a0c0@aol.com>
In a message dated 11/05/2009 15:45:28 GMT Standard Time, RoverP6 at gmx.de
writes:
http://www.roverp6.info/Fotos/VisitorGallery/Worsfold/Worsfold.htm
Kind of criminal to be breaking a 2000 estate - I've only ever seen one and
it was derelict!
Cheers
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From RoverP6 at gmx.de Mon May 11 11:47:00 2009
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 17:47:00 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 Estate + P6 V8 = P6 3500 Estate
References: <cd2.519bc94c.3739a0c0@aol.com>
Message-ID: <84B453B306AC49BFBE3F02F5B833F598@rw>
Owner says: "Unfortunately it turned out to be horribly rotten."
Rudiger
-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
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An: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Gesendet: Montag, 11. Mai 2009 17:39
Betreff: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 Estate + P6 V8 = P6 3500
Estate
>
> In a message dated 11/05/2009 15:45:28 GMT Standard Time,
> RoverP6 at gmx.de
> writes:
>
> http://www.roverp6.info/Fotos/VisitorGallery/Worsfold/Worsfold.htm
>
>
> Kind of criminal to be breaking a 2000 estate - I've only ever seen
> one and
> it was derelict!
>
> Cheers
> Nick
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From JYX95K at aol.com Mon May 11 11:49:52 2009
From: JYX95K at aol.com (JYX95K at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:49:52 EDT
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 Estate + P6 V8 = P6 3500 Estate
Message-ID: <d51.4a5c90e4.3739a320@aol.com>
In a message dated 11/05/2009 16:48:02 GMT Standard Time, RoverP6 at gmx.de
writes:
Owner says: "Unfortunately it turned out to be horribly rotten."
I wasn't a grey one originally was it - on a 'G' plate - I have photos of
that one. Saw it in a garage in Tottenham, North London in about 2004.
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From rover1000 at hotmail.com Tue May 12 02:09:09 2009
From: rover1000 at hotmail.com (ikke nie)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 06:09:09 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 Estate + P6 V8 = P6 3500 Estate
In-Reply-To: <84B453B306AC49BFBE3F02F5B833F598@rw>
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<84B453B306AC49BFBE3F02F5B833F598@rw>
Message-ID: <BAY111-W10BB6A22A5EF89EBB27BB6B2600@phx.gbl>
Panelcraft offered the Estoura-conversion also on secondhand cars, so he's actually not doing anything "wrong" there
I think it looks great and it's better the estate survives in this way then to be rotting away somewhere in a corner.
you could have done the same with the derelict estate you saw Nick :-)
Yves
> From: RoverP6 at gmx.de
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 17:47:00 +0200
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 Estate + P6 V8 = P6 3500 Estate
>
>
> Owner says: "Unfortunately it turned out to be horribly rotten."
>
> Rudiger
>
>
>
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: <JYX95K at aol.com>
> An: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Gesendet: Montag, 11. Mai 2009 17:39
> Betreff: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 Estate + P6 V8 = P6 3500
> Estate
>
>
> >
> > In a message dated 11/05/2009 15:45:28 GMT Standard Time,
> > RoverP6 at gmx.de
> > writes:
> >
> > http://www.roverp6.info/Fotos/VisitorGallery/Worsfold/Worsfold.htm
> >
> >
> > Kind of criminal to be breaking a 2000 estate - I've only ever seen
> > one and
> > it was derelict!
> >
> > Cheers
> > Nick
> >
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From JYX95K at aol.com Tue May 12 02:55:12 2009
From: JYX95K at aol.com (JYX95K at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 02:55:12 EDT
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 Estate + P6 V8 = P6 3500 Estate
Message-ID: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com>
In a message dated 12/05/2009 07:10:15 GMT Standard Time,
rover1000 at hotmail.com writes:
Panelcraft offered the Estoura-conversion also on secondhand cars, so he's
actually not doing anything "wrong" there
I think it looks great and it's better the estate survives in this way
then to be rotting away somewhere in a corner.
you could have done the same with the derelict estate you saw Nick :-)
I was one of a number of people who saw the car, hence why I thought this
could have been one in the same.
_http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq296/Cravatman/May%202009/crayford18.jp
g_
(http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq296/Cravatman/May%202009/crayford18.jpg)
Major personal problems at the time precluded rescueing it, I don't know
what happened with the car in the end.
Cheers
Nick
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From flynp170 at cablelynx.com Tue May 12 09:18:13 2009
From: flynp170 at cablelynx.com (flynp170 at cablelynx.com)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 06:18:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD 1 Hoses
Message-ID: <58949.206.255.126.52.1242134293.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com>
Thanks for the #'s Glenn. I pulled the engine and transmission from my
driver last weekend. The Heater hoses coming through the firewall have a
good bend in them. You have used striaght hose in that application? Nick
Upper radiator hose is # 7715
Lower radiator hose is # 7602
From rovercar at comcast.net Tue May 12 16:39:21 2009
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 16:39:21 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Re George's & Glen's 3500S in UK
Message-ID: <4A09DE79.9080802@comcast.net>
George Phelps & Rovernet,
I found some papers and old titles for the 3500S that I bought in
Wichita, Kansas from Bill Bruce. It had belonged to Tex Ax in Colorado
before that. I sold it to George, and I believe George sold it to
someone in the UK. If anyone can put me in touch with the present owner,
he'd probably like to have these papers.
The VIN is 43301329A and it's listed on the title as a 1970.
Rudiger: Tobacco Leaf, tan/orangey ambla (sandalwood?), AC, tinted
windows, tire carrier, NADA-spec, automatic, am radio
Glen in PA
PS I also have a good title for a junked 1980 NADA Rover 3500 SD1 that
someone might be able to use as an "historical" document...
From gharrower200 at gmail.com Tue May 12 17:41:13 2009
From: gharrower200 at gmail.com (Gordon Harrower)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 17:41:13 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Stripped Lug Nut on TC
Message-ID: <a8e2d8ce0905121441u276131d9h51e2c812a9f8efb@mail.gmail.com>
Today I got a flat tire in my 1968 TC, found that I'd left the brace in my
P5, so had to call AAA. The guy changed the tire without a problem, but one
of the lug nuts is on really tight and is too rounded for me to get off.
This isn't a problem peculiar to Rovers, obviously, but I'd like some advice
about getting the old lug nut off, and I'll need some new ones if anyone has
them to offer.
Thanks, Gordon.
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From vern at inkspotco.com Tue May 12 17:56:08 2009
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:56:08 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Stripped Lug Nut on TC
In-Reply-To: <a8e2d8ce0905121441u276131d9h51e2c812a9f8efb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a8e2d8ce0905121441u276131d9h51e2c812a9f8efb@mail.gmail.com>
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Steel wheels or Roystyle?
If steel wheel, then no problem on a replacement. As for getting it
off, the first thing would be to find a cheap socket that fits real
tight and hammer it on. Or you could try a cold chisel and try and
loosen it that way.
Yours
Vern
On 12-May-09, at 2:41 PM, Gordon Harrower wrote:
> Today I got a flat tire in my 1968 TC, found that I'd left the brace
> in my P5, so had to call AAA. The guy changed the tire without a
> problem, but one of the lug nuts is on really tight and is too
> rounded for me to get off. This isn't a problem peculiar to Rovers,
> obviously, but I'd like some advice about getting the old lug nut
> off, and I'll need some new ones if anyone has them to offer.
>
> Thanks, Gordon.
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From kkinard at att.net Tue May 12 17:59:04 2009
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 16:59:04 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Stripped Lug Nut on TC
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Hi Gordon,
How's it going? I have tons of lug nuts. The chrome ones are all a
little rusty, some pretty good, though. What kind of wheels and what do
the nuts look like. TC probably has Rostyles? Won't be back out to
Medina until Friday or Monday.
Roverly,
Kent K.
> Today I got a flat tire in my 1968 TC, found that I'd left the brace
> in my P5, so had to call AAA. The guy changed the tire without a
> problem, but one of the lug nuts is on really tight and is too rounded
> for me to get off. This isn't a problem peculiar to Rovers,
> obviously, but I'd like some advice about getting the old lug nut off,
> and I'll need some new ones if anyone has them to offer.
>
> Thanks, Gordon.
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From gharrower200 at gmail.com Tue May 12 18:08:01 2009
From: gharrower200 at gmail.com (Gordon Harrower)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 18:08:01 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Stripped Lug Nut on TC
In-Reply-To: <4A09F128.7060408@att.net>
References: <a8e2d8ce0905121441u276131d9h51e2c812a9f8efb@mail.gmail.com>
<4A09F128.7060408@att.net>
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Thanks Gents. I have steel wheels, nothing fancy. The lug nuts are
symmetrical, i.e. can be put on in either direction, are plain steel, not
chrome, although I don't care what the new ones look like as long as they
work.
Gordon.
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> wrote:
> Hi Gordon,
> How's it going? I have tons of lug nuts. The chrome ones are all a little
> rusty, some pretty good, though. What kind of wheels and what do the nuts
> look like. TC probably has Rostyles? Won't be back out to Medina until
> Friday or Monday.
>
> Roverly,
> Kent K.
>
>> Today I got a flat tire in my 1968 TC, found that I'd left the brace in my
>> P5, so had to call AAA. The guy changed the tire without a problem, but one
>> of the lug nuts is on really tight and is too rounded for me to get off.
>> This isn't a problem peculiar to Rovers, obviously, but I'd like some
>> advice about getting the old lug nut off, and I'll need some new ones if
>> anyone has them to offer.
>>
>> Thanks, Gordon.
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu Tue May 12 18:46:09 2009
From: hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu (Hank and Sally Manwell)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 18:46:09 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Stripped Lug Nut on TC
References: <a8e2d8ce0905121441u276131d9h51e2c812a9f8efb@mail.gmail.com>
<4A09F128.7060408@att.net>
<a8e2d8ce0905121508vd0d8127x8a59bbf3d0edc0de@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FC24551809BE4FA6BF4DAD3A3E5AD953@your7745395e08>
They are 18 mm and you might try a fresh six point impact quality socket with a very long handle. Whatever the next smaller SAE six point that could be hammered on might do the trick as well.
Hank
----- Original Message -----
From: Gordon Harrower
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Stripped Lug Nut on TC
Thanks Gents. I have steel wheels, nothing fancy. The lug nuts are symmetrical, i.e. can be put on in either direction, are plain steel, not chrome, although I don't care what the new ones look like as long as they work.
Gordon.
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> wrote:
Hi Gordon,
How's it going? I have tons of lug nuts. The chrome ones are all a little rusty, some pretty good, though. What kind of wheels and what do the nuts look like. TC probably has Rostyles? Won't be back out to Medina until Friday or Monday.
Roverly,
Kent K.
Today I got a flat tire in my 1968 TC, found that I'd left the brace in my P5, so had to call AAA. The guy changed the tire without a problem, but one of the lug nuts is on really tight and is too rounded for me to get off. This isn't a problem peculiar to Rovers, obviously, but I'd like some advice about getting the old lug nut off, and I'll need some new ones if anyone has them to offer.
Thanks, Gordon.
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From pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net Tue May 12 19:14:01 2009
From: pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net (pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 16:14:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1967 LHD TC P6 story continues!
In-Reply-To: <0E5E1B8504B24EBEBE796A158AB7CF01@Giannis>
Message-ID: <272808.28659.qm@web83006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
I topped up the De dion Tube and gearbox, drained and refilled the rear drive,Greased nipples,And was about to top up the steering box, but it looked full?It was infact empty and what I saw was a rubbery blob in the neck,It fell in and I filled the steering box with 90 wt oil occassionallyMoving the steering back and forth! It has not lost any since and I am puzzled as to where the other oil went?I drove the car to get new tyres and took it for a 40 mile spin!The more I drove it the better it got, as if waking from its long sleep.It ran and handled great and easily kept up with freeway traffic.On my return I looked under the hood, which I might add was lifting at the rear hinges?a bit at freeway speeds? The carbs seem very loose, I know they are on rubber mounts but they seem very loose?And wobble at idle?I am getting this car ready for the 900+ mile vintage car rally called the California Melee in Sept!Cheers,Peter
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From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Tue May 12 21:48:05 2009
From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 21:48:05 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 speedos.
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The speedo on my Rover 2000 automatic failed the other day. There are multiple part numbers for speedos in the parts catalogue. Will a speedo from a manual Rover work in an automatic? Is there any difference in calibration or is the only difference the gear change markings? Would a speedo out of an early 3500 with the same BW35 box be accurate in a 2000 auto. I have a good collection of spare speedos, but not one for a 2000 automatic.
James.
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue May 12 22:23:58 2009
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 19:23:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 speedos.
Message-ID: <696236.70055.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Have you determined that it is the mechanism inside the speedo instrument display or could it be:
*broken Bowden cable between the transmission and the head
*broken nylon part in the right-angled drive behind the instrument
(I've had both go wrong at one time or another and the result is that the speedo display stopped working.)
You didn't mention the year of your automatic. Round instruments? Ribbon instrument?
Eric
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--- On Tue, 5/12/09, James Radcliffe <j_radcliffe at hotmail.com> wrote:
> From: James Radcliffe <j_radcliffe at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 speedos.
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Received: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 6:48 PM
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> The speedo on my Rover 2000 automatic failed the other day.
> There are multiple part numbers for speedos in the parts
> catalogue. Will a speedo from a manual Rover work in an
> automatic? Is there any difference in calibration or is the
> only difference the gear change markings? Would a speedo out
> of an early 3500 with the same BW35 box be accurate in a
> 2000 auto. I have a good collection of spare speedos, but
> not one for a 2000 automatic.
>
> James.
>
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From kkinard at att.net Tue May 12 23:33:52 2009
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 22:33:52 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Stripped Lug Nut on TC
In-Reply-To: <a8e2d8ce0905121508vd0d8127x8a59bbf3d0edc0de@mail.gmail.com>
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Gordon Harrower wrote:
> Thanks Gents. I have steel wheels, nothing fancy. The lug nuts are
> symmetrical, i.e. can be put on in either direction, are plain steel,
> not chrome, although I don't care what the new ones look like as long
> as they work.
>
> Gordon.
OK. You just need one? It will be Monday or Tuesday but I'll put one
in the mail.
Roverly,
Kent K.
From kkinard at att.net Tue May 12 23:38:11 2009
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 22:38:11 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 speedos.
In-Reply-To: <SNT105-W58E447417DA23CEE652F418E610@phx.gbl>
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<SNT105-W58E447417DA23CEE652F418E610@phx.gbl>
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Hi James,
If we can determine that it is indeed the speedo unit and not the cable
or the right angle drive, I have numerous speedo heads. I am unfamiliar
with the markings of the shift points, so tell me what yours looks
like. Some of mine are likely to be from automatics-source of most is
unknown.
Roverly,
Kent K.
From vmitps at netspace.net.au Wed May 13 03:45:48 2009
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:45:48 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1967 LHD TC P6 story continues!
In-Reply-To: <272808.28659.qm@web83006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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The carbs wobble at idle, particularly 68 and earlier with HD series.
PVS
----- Original Message -----
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To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1967 LHD TC P6 story continues!
I topped up the De dion Tube and gearbox, drained and refilled the rear drive,Greased nipples,And was about to top up the steering box, but it looked full?It was infact empty and what I saw was a rubbery blob in the neck,It fell in and I filled the steering box with 90 wt oil occassionallyMoving the steering back and forth! It has not lost any since and I am puzzled as to where the other oil went?I drove the car to get new tyres and took it for a 40 mile spin!The more I drove it the better it got, as if waking from its long sleep.It ran and handled great and easily kept up with freeway traffic.On my return I looked under the hood, which I might add was lifting at the rear hinges?a bit at freeway speeds? The carbs seem very
loose, I know they are on rubber mounts but they seem very loose?And wobble at idle?I am getting this car ready for the 900+ mile vintage car rally called the California Melee in Sept!Cheers,Peter
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From vmitps at netspace.net.au Wed May 13 03:53:52 2009
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:53:52 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 speedos.
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The shift points are the only difference between 2000 manual and automatic speedos. I am using an automatic speedo in my manual.
The 3500 have a different ratio inside.
I still need a BW35 drive for a 3500 one...
PVS
----- Original Message -----
From: James Radcliffe
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 11:48 AM
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 speedos.
The speedo on my Rover 2000 automatic failed the other day. There are multiple part numbers for speedos in the parts catalogue. Will a speedo from a manual Rover work in an automatic? Is there any difference in calibration or is the only difference the gear change markings? Would a speedo out of an early 3500 with the same BW35 box be accurate in a 2000 auto. I have a good collection of spare speedos, but not one for a 2000 automatic.
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From jan.tillberg at sqc.se Wed May 13 04:16:54 2009
From: jan.tillberg at sqc.se (jan.tillberg at sqc.se)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:16:54 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1967 LHD TC P6 story continues!
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The carbs shouldn't be very loose. Check the spring balancing the carbs for tension.
Jan
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Skickat: den 13 maj 2009 09:46
Till: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
?mne: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1967 LHD TC P6 story continues!
The carbs wobble at idle, particularly 68 and earlier with HD series.
PVS
----- Original Message -----
From: pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1967 LHD TC P6 story continues!
I topped up the De dion Tube and gearbox,
drained and refilled the rear drive,
Greased nipples,
And was about to top up the steering box, but it looked full?
It was infact empty and what I saw was a rubbery blob in the neck,
It fell in and I filled the steering box with 90 wt oil occassionally
Moving the steering back and forth!
It has not lost any since and I am puzzled as to where the other oil went?
I drove the car to get new tyres and took it for a 40 mile spin!
The more I drove it the better it got, as if waking from its long sleep.
It ran and handled great and easily kept up with freeway traffic.
On my return I looked under the hood, which I might add was lifting at the rear hinges?
a bit at freeway speeds? The carbs seem very
loose, I know they are on rubber mounts but they seem very loose?
And wobble at idle?
I am getting this car ready for the 900+ mile vintage car rally called the California Melee in Sept!
Cheers,Peter
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From pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net Wed May 13 11:40:02 2009
From: pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net (pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 08:40:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1967 LHD TC P6 story continues!
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Thanks for the info!
--- On Wed, 5/13/09, jan.tillberg at sqc.se <jan.tillberg at sqc.se> wrote:
From: jan.tillberg at sqc.se <jan.tillberg at sqc.se>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1967 LHD TC P6 story continues!
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 1:16 AM
?
The?carbs?shouldn't?be?very?loose.?Check?the?spring?balancing?the?carbs?for?tension.
?
Jan
Fr?n: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] F?r Netspace
Skickat: den 13 maj 2009 09:46
Till: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
?mne: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1967 LHD TC P6 story continues!
The carbs wobble at idle, particularly 68 and earlier with HD series.
?
PVS
----- Original Message -----
From: pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1967 LHD TC P6 story continues!
I topped up the De dion Tube and gearbox, drained and refilled the rear drive,Greased nipples,And was about to top up the steering box, but it looked full?It was infact empty and what I saw was a rubbery blob in the neck,It fell in and I filled the steering box with 90 wt oil occassionallyMoving the steering back and forth! It has not lost any since and I am puzzled as to where the other oil went?I drove the car to get new tyres and took it for a 40 mile spin!The more I drove it the better it got, as if waking from its long sleep.It ran and handled great and easily kept up with freeway traffic.On my return I looked under the hood, which I might add was lifting at the rear hinges?a bit at freeway speeds? The carbs seem very
loose, I know they are on rubber mounts but they seem very loose?And wobble at idle?I am getting this car ready for the 900+ mile vintage car rally called the California Melee in Sept!Cheers,Peter
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From dtgtr8 at gmail.com Wed May 13 19:47:37 2009
From: dtgtr8 at gmail.com (d gruber)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:47:37 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] sd1 oil pressure reading 60psi
Message-ID: <805b4e740905131647s2b43e160v41827fd2fab939ad@mail.gmail.com>
Hello,
My sd1 is running great but the oil pressure gauge jumps to 60
immediately and never declines. I am wondering if anyone would know
if I have a falty system on my dash or if the sending unit on the pump
is bad?
Thank you.
From Nash4447 at cs.com Thu May 14 00:12:56 2009
From: Nash4447 at cs.com (Nash4447 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 00:12:56 EDT
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] sd1 oil pressure reading 60psi
Message-ID: <c9e.4ec95a21.373cf448@cs.com>
Take the wire off the sending unit and see what happens. Chances are the
sending unit is stuck
Glenn Los Angeles
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From anders at xoz.dk Thu May 14 01:52:53 2009
From: anders at xoz.dk (Anders Hedelund)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 07:52:53 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] sd1 oil pressure reading 60psi
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At least on SOME SD1s the sending unit is not just that - it is an
electric switch which controls the gas supply as well: No oil pressure,
no gas. So if you remove a wire, the electric petrol/gas pump will stop
working.
..Anders, Copenhagen, Denmark
From roverman2 at verizon.net Thu May 14 10:02:40 2009
From: roverman2 at verizon.net (Dermot Harvey)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:02:40 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] sd1 oil pressure reading 60psi
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Check the pressure relief valve in the oil pump. It may be sticking
thus causing the oil pressure to be too high.
Dermot Harvey
Spectral Kinetics
On May 13, 2009, at 7:47 PM, d gruber wrote:
> Hello,
> My sd1 is running great but the oil pressure gauge jumps to 60
> immediately and never declines. I am wondering if anyone would know
> if I have a falty system on my dash or if the sending unit on the pump
> is bad?
>
> Thank you.
>
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From pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net Fri May 15 23:38:47 2009
From: pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net (pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 20:38:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fw: Re: 67 TC continued
Message-ID: <220438.995.qm@web83003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hello fellow Roverers, sorry I only emailed you first time?Eric!
?
Its running great but!
?
I am still in the test drive mode and have noticed its hard to get in to?1st gear,?but easier if you go from?2nd to 1st, first?
?
The H pattern seems a bit sloppy! 2nd?3rd 4th are easy?
?
No whines from the gear box but!
?
It also pops out of reverse sometimes,?if you dont go slow and hold it in?
?
Any advice appreciated!
?
Peter H
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From vmitps at netspace.net.au Fri May 15 23:48:40 2009
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 13:48:40 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fw: Re: 67 TC continued
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Sounds like gear lever selector adjustment.
There is no easy way...
The selector is at the top of the back of the gearbox and has a 7/16 pinch bolt.
Slack it, move it forward on shaft (easiest way is to move the gearknob back a bit) and tighten again.
That should fix reverse.
Sticky first may not be curable without a box rebuild. Mine is sticky too on the SC but not on my TC.
PVS
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From: pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 1:38 PM
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fw: Re: 67 TC continued
Hello fellow Roverers, sorry I only emailed you first time Eric!
Its running great but!
I am still in the test drive mode and have noticed its hard to get in to 1st gear, but easier if you go from 2nd to 1st, first?
The H pattern seems a bit sloppy! 2nd 3rd 4th are easy?
No whines from the gear box but!
It also pops out of reverse sometimes, if you dont go slow and hold it in?
Any advice appreciated!
Peter H
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From pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net Sat May 16 00:00:19 2009
From: pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net (pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 21:00:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fw: Re: 67 TC continued
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Wow! thanks!
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Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fw: Re: 67 TC continued
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 8:48 PM
Sounds like gear lever selector?adjustment.
There is no easy way...
The selector is at the top of the back of the gearbox and has a 7/16 pinch bolt.
Slack it, move it forward on shaft (easiest way is to move the gearknob back a bit) and tighten again.
That should fix reverse.
Sticky first may not be curable without a box rebuild.? Mine is sticky too on the SC but not on my TC.
?
PVS
?
----- Original Message -----
From: pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 1:38 PM
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fw: Re: 67 TC continued
Hello fellow Roverers, sorry I only emailed you first time?Eric!
?
Its running great but!
?
I am still in the test drive mode and have noticed its hard to get in to?1st gear,?but easier if you go from?2nd to 1st, first?
?
The H pattern seems a bit sloppy! 2nd?3rd 4th are easy?
?
No whines from the gear box but!
?
It also pops out of reverse sometimes,?if you dont go slow and hold it in?
?
Any advice appreciated!
?
Peter H
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From vmitps at netspace.net.au Sat May 16 00:20:55 2009
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 14:20:55 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fw: Re: 67 TC continued
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Oops move the gearknob forward to fix reverse engagement...
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Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fw: Re: 67 TC continued
Wow! thanks!
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Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fw: Re: 67 TC continued
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 8:48 PM
Sounds like gear lever selector adjustment.
There is no easy way...
The selector is at the top of the back of the gearbox and has a 7/16 pinch bolt.
Slack it, move it forward on shaft (easiest way is to move the gearknob back a bit) and tighten again.
That should fix reverse.
Sticky first may not be curable without a box rebuild. Mine is sticky too on the SC but not on my TC.
PVS
----- Original Message -----
From: pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 1:38 PM
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fw: Re: 67 TC continued
Hello fellow Roverers, sorry I only emailed you first time Eric!
Its running great but!
I am still in the test drive mode and have noticed its hard to get in to 1st gear, but easier if you go from 2nd to 1st, first?
The H pattern seems a bit sloppy! 2nd 3rd 4th are easy?
No whines from the gear box but!
It also pops out of reverse sometimes, if you dont go slow and hold it in?
Any advice appreciated!
Peter H
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat May 16 00:22:25 2009
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 21:22:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fw: Re: 67 TC continued
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Remember,............. in first gear, although you are pushing the stick foward, you are actually pulling the selector rod *out* of the box.
Decide if it easier for you to push the far left selector in or pull that rod out (whoops :-).......... anyway......... loosen the gear selector as Paul says and move the rod into position and slide the gear shift into that gear ( 1st or second). Then tighten the bolt tightly.
That should work.
That adjustment may well help your reverse selection.
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> hard to get in to?1st gear,?but easier if you go
> from?2nd to 1st, first?
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> The H pattern seems a bit sloppy! 2nd?3rd 4th are
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> No whines from the gear box but!
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From petesgarage04 at yahoo.com Fri May 15 23:35:38 2009
From: petesgarage04 at yahoo.com (Pete Holbrook)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 20:35:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fw: Re: 67 TC continued
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Hello fellow Roverers, sorry Eric!
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Its running great but!
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I am still in the test drive mode and have noticed its hard to get in to?1st gear,?but easier if you go from?2nd to 1st, first?
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The H pattern seems a bit sloppy! 2nd?3rd 4th are easy?
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From pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net Sat May 16 13:10:10 2009
From: pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net (pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 10:10:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] gear lever adj
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Thanks all,?for the great tips I will undertake this procedure soon!
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From veetwinrider at yahoo.com Sat May 16 13:27:48 2009
From: veetwinrider at yahoo.com (roland)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 10:27:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] gear lever adj
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I'd like to recommend using a synthetic transmission oil as well. I put in BG Synchro Shift and it made my P5 shift very smooth.
roland
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Thanks all,?for the great tips I will undertake this procedure soon!
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Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 14:10:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] gear lever adj
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Thanks Roland
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Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 10:27 AM
I'd like to recommend using a synthetic transmission oil as well. I put in
BG Synchro Shift and it made my P5 shift very smooth.
roland
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue May 19 21:47:45 2009
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 18:47:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD1 manual trans. for sale in Calif.
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Hi,
We have a new listing for a 5 speed SD1 for sale in Rodondo Beach, Calif., USA. Check out the details and photos from:
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From travellak1 at netzero.net Tue May 19 22:04:29 2009
From: travellak1 at netzero.net (Linus Tremaine)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 02:04:29 GMT
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] rover sedan sales brochure
Message-ID: <20090519.190429.27440.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com>
All,
Was at the local used book store and found a (roughly) 12"x15" 6-8 page sales brochure. It is for the rover 90 and 100 sedans ( i think)
They wanted ten bux for it, in pretty good shape.
anyone interested?
L
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From fmcardle at suffolk.lib.ny.us Tue May 19 23:27:59 2009
From: fmcardle at suffolk.lib.ny.us (fmcardle at suffolk.lib.ny.us)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 23:27:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] rover sedan sales brochure
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Hi Linus,
I'm Pete McArdle, and I would be very interested in the sales brochure.
Please forward to me either the info as to where I might buy the brochure
or your address with some info as to what you would want to complete the
transaction and send the brochure on to me.
Thanks so much for the info , hope to hear form you soon.
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PS , Didn't we do some business a few years ago. I'm the fellow in NY that
has the NOS Rover parts and have been in the Rover business in various
forms since the 50s.
> All,
> Was at the local used book store and found a (roughly) 12"x15" 6-8 page
> sales brochure. It is for the rover 90 and 100 sedans ( i think)
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> They wanted ten bux for it, in pretty good shape.
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From travellak1 at netzero.net Wed May 20 01:55:54 2009
From: travellak1 at netzero.net (Linus Tremaine)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 05:55:54 GMT
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] rover sedan sales brochure
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Pete,
yes. We traded a side cover gasket for a valve cover gasket. I have a land rover with the rover p4 110 engine.
Ill go back and get that brochure and we'll talk
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From: Paul.Smith at transend.com.au (Paul Smith)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 15:59:37 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] rover sedan sales brochure
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You mean with the Weslake head?
Not a 95 motor?
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Pete,
yes. We traded a side cover gasket for a valve cover gasket. I have a land rover with the rover p4 110 engine.
Ill go back and get that brochure and we'll talk
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Wed May 20 04:16:00 2009
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 10:16:00 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: SD1 manual trans. for sale in Calif.
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Splendi car.
I'd like to have it.
Best regards, Gianluca.
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Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD1 manual trans. for sale in Calif.
Hi,
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From peterhut at melbpc.org.au Wed May 20 06:43:47 2009
From: peterhut at melbpc.org.au (Peter Huttemeier)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 20:43:47 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD1 manual trans. for sale in Calif.
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On Tue, 19 May 2009 18:47:45 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
>
>Hi,
>We have a new listing for a 5 speed SD1 for sale in Rodondo Beach, Calif., USA. Check out the details and photos from:
Nice Vitesse wheels too. Or were they standard in US?
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From kkinard at att.net Wed May 20 07:23:21 2009
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 06:23:21 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD1 manual trans. for sale in Calif.
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Not available at all in the US. They must have been added later. -Kent K.
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> On Tue, 19 May 2009 18:47:45 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
>
>
>> Hi,
>> We have a new listing for a 5 speed SD1 for sale in Rodondo Beach, Calif., USA. Check out the details and photos from:
>>
>
> Nice Vitesse wheels too. Or were they standard in US?
>
>
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From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 06:28:10 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] rover sedan sales brochure
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Hi Linus and Paul,
I thought it was you and I that traded gaskets. I did that with somebody.
Paul, the 109 station wagon was available in the US with the P4 110
engine. I have, or used to have, the parts catalogue supplement for
that model.
Roverly,
Kent K.
Paul Smith wrote:
> You mean with the Weslake head?
> Not a 95 motor?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Linus Tremaine
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 May 2009 3:56 PM
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] rover sedan sales brochure
>
> Pete,
> yes. We traded a side cover gasket for a valve cover gasket. I have a land rover with the rover p4 110 engine.
>
> Ill go back and get that brochure and we'll talk
>
> Linus
>
From vmitps at netspace.net.au Wed May 20 07:55:33 2009
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 21:55:33 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] rover sedan sales brochure
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It wasn't here so far as I know.
The 95 motor was it.
With the series 3 the V8 was installed.
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Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] rover sedan sales brochure
> Hi Linus and Paul,
> I thought it was you and I that traded gaskets. I did that with somebody.
>
> Paul, the 109 station wagon was available in the US with the P4 110
> engine. I have, or used to have, the parts catalogue supplement for that
> model.
>
> Roverly,
> Kent K.
>
> Paul Smith wrote:
>> You mean with the Weslake head?
>> Not a 95 motor?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
>> On Behalf Of Linus Tremaine
>> Sent: Wednesday, 20 May 2009 3:56 PM
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] rover sedan sales brochure
>>
>> Pete,
>> yes. We traded a side cover gasket for a valve cover gasket. I have a
>> land rover with the rover p4 110 engine.
>>
>> Ill go back and get that brochure and we'll talk
>>
>> Linus
>>
>
>
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From travellak1 at netzero.net Wed May 20 10:43:10 2009
From: travellak1 at netzero.net (Linus Tremaine)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 14:43:10 GMT
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] rover sedan sales brochure
Message-ID: <20090520.074310.26829.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com>
Paul,
yes, the weslake head. It was put in 811 land rovers destined for the north american market.
Linus
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Thu May 21 12:34:20 2009
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 09:34:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Land Rover books for sale
Message-ID: <33535.83183.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
We have been asked to list some Land Rover manuals and a Range Rover reference on our website.
If you also have a Land Rover or Range Rover and think it might be worth a look, you are invited to visit this page:
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From danenberg123 at yahoo.com Thu May 21 13:17:01 2009
From: danenberg123 at yahoo.com (Bo Danenberger)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 10:17:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Land Rover books for sale
Message-ID: <12736.27283.qm@web33504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hello???? I have some 3 litre manuals for sale and would like to list them on the site for all.
I have (1) a parts book?and (2) a workshop manual for a MK I and the same for a MK III.
The MK III are still in the original shipping/selling sleaves. Both sets are nice.
Thank?you. Bo Danenberger?......central Illinois
--- On Thu, 5/21/09, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
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Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Land Rover books for sale
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Date: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 11:34 AM
We have been asked to list some Land Rover manuals and a Range Rover reference on our website.
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From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:13:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Land Rover books for sale
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Bo,
Malcolm, our RCCC President, is the person to email about posting ads on our website. Since his address is hotlinked on our website, I guess he wouldn't mind me posting his contact here:
mbtait at shaw.ca
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--- On Thu, 5/21/09, Bo Danenberger <danenberg123 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Bo Danenberger <danenberg123 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Land Rover books for sale
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 10:17 AM
> Hello???? I
> have some 3 litre manuals for sale and would like to list
> them on the site for all.
> I have (1) a parts book?and (2) a workshop manual
> for a MK I and the same for a MK III.
> The MK III are still in the original shipping/selling
> sleaves. Both sets are nice.
> Thank?you. Bo Danenberger?......central
> Illinois
>
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> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
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> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Date: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 11:34 AM
>
>
>
> We have been asked to list some Land Rover manuals and a
> Range Rover reference on our website.
> If you also have a Land Rover or Range Rover and think it
> might be worth a look, you are invited to visit this page:
>
> http://www.roverclub.ca/bynonmembers.htm
>
> Eric
>
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From lacpsyd6 at msn.com Fri May 22 10:09:42 2009
From: lacpsyd6 at msn.com (LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 08:09:42 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
Message-ID: <COL111-DS6FBE0C8355E500D9A356583560@phx.gbl>
I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth of ABC
gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my rebuild I
replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for
'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential itself, but
directly external to it as Ruth suggests below]
She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history on the S
is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing out of the
garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they then put it
drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the diff is the drive
side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you get into the higher
miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear and next thing you
know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set and have a good feel
or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means dropping the half shaft
and taking it out".
I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same thing as
the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification about what I'm
looking for/at it would be much appreciated.
Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S
From vern at inkspotco.com Fri May 22 10:42:07 2009
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 07:42:07 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
In-Reply-To: <COL111-DS6FBE0C8355E500D9A356583560@phx.gbl>
References: <COL111-DS6FBE0C8355E500D9A356583560@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6FEB18D8-C563-41B2-B4E9-AD4D4A4F2B40@inkspotco.com>
The stub axle is part of the diff. It is the flange that the half
shaft bolts to. To remove, you have to disconnect the halfshaft, the
handbrake linkage and either free the caliper from the stub axle
carrier or disconnect the hose or hoses (depending on LH or RH) from
the caliper. Four bolts hold the stub axle carrier to the diff.
The stub axle failure Ruth is talking about, by the way, is not
restricted to V8 cars, it happened quite often with the 4 cylinder
cars that were driven vigorously. The very first P6 I had dealing with
broke both stub axles at the same time, funnily enough on a last drive
before the insurance ran out at midnight, while doing a last donut in
a parking lot.
Yours
Vern
On 22-May-09, at 7:09 AM, LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE wrote:
> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth
> of ABC
> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my
> rebuild I
> replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for
> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential
> itself, but
> directly external to it as Ruth suggests below]
>
> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history
> on the S
> is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing out
> of the
> garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they then
> put it
> drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the diff is
> the drive
> side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you get into the
> higher
> miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear and next
> thing you
> know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set and have a
> good feel
> or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means dropping the
> half shaft
> and taking it out".
>
> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same
> thing as
> the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification about
> what I'm
> looking for/at it would be much appreciated.
>
>
> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S
>
>
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From gbrovers at aol.com Fri May 22 11:06:04 2009
From: gbrovers at aol.com (Bill Davis)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 09:06:04 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] looking for head, intake & carbs
Message-ID: <032E1A4C-4135-4F03-B206-81259F82FA3D@aol.com>
Group
I am looking for a cylinder head, intake manifold and dual carb set
up for a 105, 105S or 105R. All of the miscellaneous bits would be
nice too. Contact me off line or on if you can help.
Bill
From lafbery at telus.net Fri May 22 11:48:15 2009
From: lafbery at telus.net (Barry & Shirley Lafbery)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 08:48:15 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
In-Reply-To: <COL111-DS6FBE0C8355E500D9A356583560@phx.gbl>
References: <COL111-DS6FBE0C8355E500D9A356583560@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <DD1EBD2E590D46E88B0D5044289AF732@ChloePC>
Hi Lance,
If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest you
stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the side that
comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come loose, this
is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on different cars,
if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks it and
it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the heads of
the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the threads.
Barry
>
> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth of ABC
> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my rebuild
> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for
> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential itself,
> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below]
>
> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history on the
> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing out of
> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they then
> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the diff is
> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you get into
> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear and next
> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set and have
> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means dropping
> the half shaft and taking it out".
>
> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same thing
> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification about
> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated.
>
>
> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S
>
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From Nash4447 at cs.com Fri May 22 14:36:52 2009
From: Nash4447 at cs.com (Nash4447 at cs.com)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:36:52 EDT
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD1, TR8, 87 & up Range Rover heads
Message-ID: <c47.5966f046.37484ac4@cs.com>
Fellas
I have a nice pair of heads for the above applications should anyone be
interested. They should be hottanked and the valves ground, of course. The
valves are fine so the only parts required would be new stem seals - no big
deal.
$40 for the pair plus shipping or local pickup fine. I am in the Los
Angeles area. They are aluminum as you know so the fedex ground shipping cost
would not be obscene.
Glenn
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From geffandjulie at comcast.net Fri May 22 16:18:08 2009
From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:18:08 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
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References: <COL111-DS6FBE0C8355E500D9A356583560@phx.gbl>
<DD1EBD2E590D46E88B0D5044289AF732@ChloePC>
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My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from the loose
play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I understand
the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will eliminate it. I
have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon.
AvMedSafe
Geff and Julie McCarthy
677 NW Melinda Ave
Portland OR 97210
503-241-8468
503-799-3809 mobile
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
Hi Lance,
If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest you
stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the side that
comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come loose, this
is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on different cars,
if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks it and
it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the heads of
the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the threads.
Barry
>
> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth of ABC
> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my rebuild
> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for
> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential itself,
> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below]
>
> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history on the
> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing out of
> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they then
> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the diff is
> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you get into
> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear and next
> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set and have
> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means dropping
> the half shaft and taking it out".
>
> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same thing
> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification about
> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated.
>
>
> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S
>
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From rovercar at comcast.net Fri May 22 16:50:03 2009
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:50:03 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
In-Reply-To: <005301c9db1a$6d0de6b0$4729b410$@net>
References: <COL111-DS6FBE0C8355E500D9A356583560@phx.gbl> <DD1EBD2E590D46E88B0D5044289AF732@ChloePC>
<005301c9db1a$6d0de6b0$4729b410$@net>
Message-ID: <4A170FFB.1040208@comcast.net>
Geff McCarthy wrote:
> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from the loose
> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I understand
> the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will eliminate it. I
> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon.
>
> AvMedSafe
> Geff and Julie McCarthy
> 677 NW Melinda Ave
> Portland OR 97210
> 503-241-8468
> 503-799-3809 mobile
>
Geff,
I think you should triage this situation and AvMedSafe that sucker down
to Colorado. Lance's life may depend on it, and an extra set of hands is
always useful when you get into that area around the P6 differential...
Glen
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>
> Hi Lance,
> If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest you
> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the side that
> comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come loose, this
> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on different cars,
>
> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks it and
> it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the heads of
>
> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the threads.
>
> Barry
>
>
>
>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth of ABC
>> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my rebuild
>>
>
>
>> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for
>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential itself,
>> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below]
>>
>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history on the
>>
>
>
>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing out of
>> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they then
>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the diff is
>> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you get into
>>
>
>
>> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear and next
>>
>
>
>> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set and have
>>
>
>
>> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means dropping
>> the half shaft and taking it out".
>>
>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same thing
>> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification about
>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated.
>>
>>
>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Rovernet mailing list
>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca
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>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
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>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
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From vern at inkspotco.com Fri May 22 17:04:15 2009
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:04:15 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
In-Reply-To: <005301c9db1a$6d0de6b0$4729b410$@net>
References: <COL111-DS6FBE0C8355E500D9A356583560@phx.gbl>
<DD1EBD2E590D46E88B0D5044289AF732@ChloePC>
<005301c9db1a$6d0de6b0$4729b410$@net>
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More likely the spider gears are worn inside crown gear carrier. My
experience has been that the pinion & crown gear give no trouble,
other than the earlier mentioned crown wheel bolts backing out and
destroying the diff case ;-). But it is very good to know that you
have a height gauge. Is it the dual purpose one? The manual shows
three (rather, the 4 cyl manual, I assume the V8 is the same) tools,
push fit, press fit and the aforementioned dual one.
Yours
Vern
On 22-May-09, at 1:18 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from
> the loose
> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I
> understand
> the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will
> eliminate it. I
> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon.
>
> AvMedSafe
> Geff and Julie McCarthy
> 677 NW Melinda Ave
> Portland OR 97210
> 503-241-8468
> 503-799-3809 mobile
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> ] On
> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>
> Hi Lance,
> If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I
> suggest you
> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the
> side that
> comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come
> loose, this
> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on
> different cars,
>
> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks
> it and
> it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the
> heads of
>
> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the
> threads.
>
> Barry
>
>
>>
>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth
>> of ABC
>> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my
>> rebuild
>
>> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for
>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential
>> itself,
>> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below]
>>
>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history
>> on the
>
>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing
>> out of
>> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they
>> then
>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the
>> diff is
>> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you
>> get into
>
>> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear
>> and next
>
>> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set
>> and have
>
>> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means
>> dropping
>> the half shaft and taking it out".
>>
>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same
>> thing
>> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification
>> about
>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated.
>>
>>
>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S
>>
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From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:15:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
Message-ID: <871787.19677.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Another reason for rear end "clunking" is a worn "U" joint on one of the half-shafts or the propeller shaft. A person has 6 "U" joints to consider. That happened with me.
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--- On Fri, 5/22/09, Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net> wrote:
> From: Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
> To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Friday, May 22, 2009, 1:18 PM
> My "new" diff also clunks, but only
> when put into gear. It is from the loose
> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg.
> If I understand
> the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly
> will eliminate it. I
> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in
> Oregon.
>
> AvMedSafe
> Geff and Julie McCarthy
> 677 NW Melinda Ave
> Portland OR 97210
> 503-241-8468
> 503-799-3809 mobile
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On
> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking
> differential
>
> Hi Lance,
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? If you
> have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest you
> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and
> remove the side that
> comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have
> come loose, this
> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me
> on different cars,
>
> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing
> and cracks it and
> it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by
> drilling the heads of
>
> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread
> locker on the threads.
>
> Barry
>
>
> >
> > I would appreciate some help/deciphering some
> recommendations Ruth of ABC
> > gave me in sorting out my differential
> 'clunking'.? [As part of my rebuild
>
> > I replaced my old differential with a newer one which
> we checked for
> > 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the
> differential itself,
> > but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below]
> >
> > She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem
> from the history on the
>
> > S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes
> when backing out of
> > the garage and they just let the car roll close to a
> stop when they then
> > put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What
> happens in the diff is
> > the drive side (LH)? stub axles takes all the
> torque and once you get into
>
> > the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the
> drive gear and next
>
> > thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go
> the left set and have
>
> > a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It
> literally means dropping
> > the half shaft and taking it out".
> >
> > I'm not sure what she means by the "stub
> axle"????Is this the same thing
> > as the "half shaft"?.???If someone
> could give me a clarification about
> > what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated.
> >
> >
> > Lance La Certe, Psy.D.,? '70? 3500S
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From lacpsyd6 at msn.com Fri May 22 19:25:10 2009
From: lacpsyd6 at msn.com (LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 17:25:10 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Differential help
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Thanks to all who replied about my differential. I've just gotten it out
without killing myself (note to Glen!!). I had replaced all of the zercs on
the u-joints and lubricated all of them. None are frozen and none appear to
have too much play. None of the crown wheel bolts are loose.
Sooooooo, unless anyone has any other suggestions, I think the next move is
to go with having the differential rebuilt. I will be contacting Ruth at
ABC. Does anyone else have any ideas of contacts/sources for a differential
rebuild kit for a '70 3500S differential.
Thanks again for all of the help.
Lance La Certe, Psy.D.
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> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:36:52 EDT
> From: Nash4447 at cs.com
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD1, TR8, 87 & up Range Rover
> heads
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> Fellas
>
> I have a nice pair of heads for the above applications should anyone be
> interested. They should be hottanked and the valves ground, of course. The
> valves are fine so the only parts required would be new stem seals - no
> big
> deal.
>
> $40 for the pair plus shipping or local pickup fine. I am in the Los
> Angeles area. They are aluminum as you know so the fedex ground shipping
> cost
> would not be obscene.
>
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> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:18:08 -0700
> From: "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
> To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'"
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> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from the
> loose
> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I understand
> the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will eliminate it.
> I
> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon.
>
> AvMedSafe
> Geff and Julie McCarthy
> 677 NW Melinda Ave
> Portland OR 97210
> 503-241-8468
> 503-799-3809 mobile
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On
> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>
> Hi Lance,
> If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest you
> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the side that
> comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come loose,
> this
> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on different
> cars,
>
> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks it and
> it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the heads
> of
>
> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the
> threads.
>
> Barry
>
>
> >
> > I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth of
> > ABC
> > gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my
> > rebuild
>
> > I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for
> > 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential itself,
> > but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below]
> >
> > She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history on
> > the
>
> > S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing out of
> > the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they then
> > put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the diff
> > is
> > the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you get
> > into
>
> > the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear and
> > next
>
> > thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set and
> > have
>
> > a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means dropping
> > the half shaft and taking it out".
> >
> > I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same thing
> > as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification about
> > what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated.
> >
> >
> > Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
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> Geff McCarthy wrote:
> > My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from the
> > loose
> > play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I
> > understand
> > the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will eliminate
> > it. I
> > have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon.
> >
> > AvMedSafe
> > Geff and Julie McCarthy
> > 677 NW Melinda Ave
> > Portland OR 97210
> > 503-241-8468
> > 503-799-3809 mobile
> >
>
> Geff,
>
> I think you should triage this situation and AvMedSafe that sucker down
> to Colorado. Lance's life may depend on it, and an extra set of hands is
> always useful when you get into that area around the P6 differential...
>
> Glen
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> > On
> > Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
> > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
> > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
> >
> > Hi Lance,
> > If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest
> > you
> > stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the side
> > that
> > comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come loose,
> > this
> > is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on different
> > cars,
> >
> > if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks it
> > and
> > it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the
> > heads of
> >
> > the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the
> > threads.
> >
> > Barry
> >
> >
> >
> >> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth of
> >> ABC
> >> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my
> >> rebuild
> >>
> >
> >
> >> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for
> >> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential
> >> itself,
> >> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below]
> >>
> >> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history on
> >> the
> >>
> >
> >
> >> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing out of
> >> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they
> >> then
> >> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the diff
> >> is
> >> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you get
> >> into
> >>
> >
> >
> >> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear and
> >> next
> >>
> >
> >
> >> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set and
> >> have
> >>
> >
> >
> >> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means
> >> dropping
> >> the half shaft and taking it out".
> >>
> >> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same
> >> thing
> >> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification about
> >> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated.
> >>
> >>
> >> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S
> >>
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> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:04:15 -0700
> From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
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> More likely the spider gears are worn inside crown gear carrier. My
> experience has been that the pinion & crown gear give no trouble,
> other than the earlier mentioned crown wheel bolts backing out and
> destroying the diff case ;-). But it is very good to know that you
> have a height gauge. Is it the dual purpose one? The manual shows
> three (rather, the 4 cyl manual, I assume the V8 is the same) tools,
> push fit, press fit and the aforementioned dual one.
>
> Yours
> Vern
> On 22-May-09, at 1:18 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
>
> > My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from
> > the loose
> > play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I
> > understand
> > the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will
> > eliminate it. I
> > have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon.
> >
> > AvMedSafe
> > Geff and Julie McCarthy
> > 677 NW Melinda Ave
> > Portland OR 97210
> > 503-241-8468
> > 503-799-3809 mobile
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> > ] On
> > Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
> > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
> > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
> >
> > Hi Lance,
> > If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I
> > suggest you
> > stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the
> > side that
> > comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come
> > loose, this
> > is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on
> > different cars,
> >
> > if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks
> > it and
> > it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the
> > heads of
> >
> > the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the
> > threads.
> >
> > Barry
> >
> >
> >>
> >> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth
> >> of ABC
> >> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my
> >> rebuild
> >
> >> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for
> >> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential
> >> itself,
> >> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below]
> >>
> >> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history
> >> on the
> >
> >> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing
> >> out of
> >> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they
> >> then
> >> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the
> >> diff is
> >> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you
> >> get into
> >
> >> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear
> >> and next
> >
> >> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set
> >> and have
> >
> >> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means
> >> dropping
> >> the half shaft and taking it out".
> >>
> >> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same
> >> thing
> >> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification
> >> about
> >> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated.
> >>
> >>
> >> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S
> >>
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> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
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> Another reason for rear end "clunking" is a worn "U" joint on one of the
> half-shafts or the propeller shaft. A person has 6 "U" joints to consider.
> That happened with me.
>
> Eric
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> --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net> wrote:
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> > From: Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
> > To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'"
> > <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> > Received: Friday, May 22, 2009, 1:18 PM
> > My "new" diff also clunks, but only
> > when put into gear. It is from the loose
> > play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg.
> > If I understand
> > the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly
> > will eliminate it. I
> > have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in
> > Oregon.
> >
> > AvMedSafe
> > Geff and Julie McCarthy
> > 677 NW Melinda Ave
> > Portland OR 97210
> > 503-241-8468
> > 503-799-3809 mobile
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> > [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> > On
> > Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
> > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
> > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking
> > differential
> >
> > Hi Lance,
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? If you
> > have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest you
> > stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and
> > remove the side that
> > comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have
> > come loose, this
> > is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me
> > on different cars,
> >
> > if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing
> > and cracks it and
> > it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by
> > drilling the heads of
> >
> > the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread
> > locker on the threads.
> >
> > Barry
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I would appreciate some help/deciphering some
> > recommendations Ruth of ABC
> > > gave me in sorting out my differential
> > 'clunking'.? [As part of my rebuild
> >
> > > I replaced my old differential with a newer one which
> > we checked for
> > > 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the
> > differential itself,
> > > but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below]
> > >
> > > She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem
> > from the history on the
> >
> > > S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes
> > when backing out of
> > > the garage and they just let the car roll close to a
> > stop when they then
> > > put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What
> > happens in the diff is
> > > the drive side (LH)? stub axles takes all the
> > torque and once you get into
> >
> > > the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the
> > drive gear and next
> >
> > > thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go
> > the left set and have
> >
> > > a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It
> > literally means dropping
> > > the half shaft and taking it out".
> > >
> > > I'm not sure what she means by the "stub
> > axle"????Is this the same thing
> > > as the "half shaft"?.???If someone
> > could give me a clarification about
> > > what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated.
> > >
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> > > Lance La Certe, Psy.D.,? '70? 3500S
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From vern at inkspotco.com Fri May 22 22:13:23 2009
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 19:13:23 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Differential help
In-Reply-To: <COL111-DS6FAD51EC8EF8E476A3AB683560@phx.gbl>
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The next thing to do is take the crown wheel carrier and set it on the
bench. Insert stub axles back into the crown wheel carrier and rotate
them against each see how much freeplay there is. Ideally there should
be all but none, 5 degrees is acceptable but about where clunking
starts (5 degrees at the output in 15-20 degrees at the prop shaft).
If is is sloppy, then the problem lies in the gears with in the carrier.
Yours
Vern
On 22-May-09, at 4:25 PM, LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE wrote:
> Thanks to all who replied about my differential. I've just gotten
> it out
> without killing myself (note to Glen!!). I had replaced all of the
> zercs on
> the u-joints and lubricated all of them. None are frozen and none
> appear to
> have too much play. None of the crown wheel bolts are loose.
>
> Sooooooo, unless anyone has any other suggestions, I think the next
> move is
> to go with having the differential rebuilt. I will be contacting
> Ruth at
> ABC. Does anyone else have any ideas of contacts/sources for a
> differential
> rebuild kit for a '70 3500S differential.
>
> Thanks again for all of the help.
>
>
> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.
>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:36:52 EDT
>> From: Nash4447 at cs.com
>> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD1, TR8, 87 & up Range Rover
>> heads
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>> Fellas
>>
>> I have a nice pair of heads for the above applications should
>> anyone be
>> interested. They should be hottanked and the valves ground, of
>> course. The
>> valves are fine so the only parts required would be new stem seals
>> - no
>> big
>> deal.
>>
>> $40 for the pair plus shipping or local pickup fine. I am in the Los
>> Angeles area. They are aluminum as you know so the fedex ground
>> shipping
>> cost
>> would not be obscene.
>>
>> Glenn
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:18:08 -0700
>> From: "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>> To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'"
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>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from
>> the
>> loose
>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I
>> understand
>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will
>> eliminate it.
>> I
>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon.
>>
>> AvMedSafe
>> Geff and Julie McCarthy
>> 677 NW Melinda Ave
>> Portland OR 97210
>> 503-241-8468
>> 503-799-3809 mobile
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
>> ]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>>
>> Hi Lance,
>> If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I
>> suggest you
>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the
>> side that
>> comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come
>> loose,
>> this
>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on
>> different
>> cars,
>>
>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks
>> it and
>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the
>> heads
>> of
>>
>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the
>> threads.
>>
>> Barry
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth
>>> of
>>> ABC
>>> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my
>>> rebuild
>>
>>> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for
>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential
>>> itself,
>>> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below]
>>>
>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the
>>> history on
>>> the
>>
>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing
>>> out of
>>> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when
>>> they then
>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the
>>> diff
>>> is
>>> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you
>>> get
>>> into
>>
>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear
>>> and
>>> next
>>
>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set
>>> and
>>> have
>>
>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means
>>> dropping
>>> the half shaft and taking it out".
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same
>>> thing
>>> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification
>>> about
>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S
>>>
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>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:50:03 -0400
>> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
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>> Geff McCarthy wrote:
>>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from
>>> the
>>> loose
>>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I
>>> understand
>>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will
>>> eliminate
>>> it. I
>>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon.
>>>
>>> AvMedSafe
>>> Geff and Julie McCarthy
>>> 677 NW Melinda Ave
>>> Portland OR 97210
>>> 503-241-8468
>>> 503-799-3809 mobile
>>>
>>
>> Geff,
>>
>> I think you should triage this situation and AvMedSafe that sucker
>> down
>> to Colorado. Lance's life may depend on it, and an extra set of
>> hands is
>> always useful when you get into that area around the P6
>> differential...
>>
>> Glen
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
>>> ]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
>>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>>>
>>> Hi Lance,
>>> If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I
>>> suggest
>>> you
>>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the
>>> side
>>> that
>>> comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come
>>> loose,
>>> this
>>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on
>>> different
>>> cars,
>>>
>>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and
>>> cracks it
>>> and
>>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the
>>> heads of
>>>
>>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the
>>> threads.
>>>
>>> Barry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations
>>>> Ruth of
>>>> ABC
>>>> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my
>>>> rebuild
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked
>>>> for
>>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential
>>>> itself,
>>>> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below]
>>>>
>>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the
>>>> history on
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing
>>>> out of
>>>> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they
>>>> then
>>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the
>>>> diff
>>>> is
>>>> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you
>>>> get
>>>> into
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear
>>>> and
>>>> next
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set
>>>> and
>>>> have
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means
>>>> dropping
>>>> the half shaft and taking it out".
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same
>>>> thing
>>>> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification
>>>> about
>>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S
>>>>
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>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:04:15 -0700
>> From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
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>> More likely the spider gears are worn inside crown gear carrier. My
>> experience has been that the pinion & crown gear give no trouble,
>> other than the earlier mentioned crown wheel bolts backing out and
>> destroying the diff case ;-). But it is very good to know that you
>> have a height gauge. Is it the dual purpose one? The manual shows
>> three (rather, the 4 cyl manual, I assume the V8 is the same) tools,
>> push fit, press fit and the aforementioned dual one.
>>
>> Yours
>> Vern
>> On 22-May-09, at 1:18 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
>>
>>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from
>>> the loose
>>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I
>>> understand
>>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will
>>> eliminate it. I
>>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon.
>>>
>>> AvMedSafe
>>> Geff and Julie McCarthy
>>> 677 NW Melinda Ave
>>> Portland OR 97210
>>> 503-241-8468
>>> 503-799-3809 mobile
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
>>> ] On
>>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
>>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>>>
>>> Hi Lance,
>>> If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I
>>> suggest you
>>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the
>>> side that
>>> comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come
>>> loose, this
>>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on
>>> different cars,
>>>
>>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks
>>> it and
>>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the
>>> heads of
>>>
>>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the
>>> threads.
>>>
>>> Barry
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth
>>>> of ABC
>>>> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my
>>>> rebuild
>>>
>>>> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked
>>>> for
>>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential
>>>> itself,
>>>> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below]
>>>>
>>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history
>>>> on the
>>>
>>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing
>>>> out of
>>>> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they
>>>> then
>>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the
>>>> diff is
>>>> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you
>>>> get into
>>>
>>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear
>>>> and next
>>>
>>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set
>>>> and have
>>>
>>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means
>>>> dropping
>>>> the half shaft and taking it out".
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same
>>>> thing
>>>> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification
>>>> about
>>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S
>>>>
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>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:15:24 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
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>>
>> Another reason for rear end "clunking" is a worn "U" joint on one
>> of the
>> half-shafts or the propeller shaft. A person has 6 "U" joints to
>> consider.
>> That happened with me.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
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>> --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>>> To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'"
>>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>>> Received: Friday, May 22, 2009, 1:18 PM
>>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only
>>> when put into gear. It is from the loose
>>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg.
>>> If I understand
>>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly
>>> will eliminate it. I
>>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in
>>> Oregon.
>>>
>>> AvMedSafe
>>> Geff and Julie McCarthy
>>> 677 NW Melinda Ave
>>> Portland OR 97210
>>> 503-241-8468
>>> 503-799-3809 mobile
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
>>> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
>>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking
>>> differential
>>>
>>> Hi Lance,
>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? If you
>>> have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest you
>>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and
>>> remove the side that
>>> comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have
>>> come loose, this
>>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me
>>> on different cars,
>>>
>>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing
>>> and cracks it and
>>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by
>>> drilling the heads of
>>>
>>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread
>>> locker on the threads.
>>>
>>> Barry
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some
>>> recommendations Ruth of ABC
>>>> gave me in sorting out my differential
>>> 'clunking'.? [As part of my rebuild
>>>
>>>> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which
>>> we checked for
>>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the
>>> differential itself,
>>>> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below]
>>>>
>>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem
>>> from the history on the
>>>
>>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes
>>> when backing out of
>>>> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a
>>> stop when they then
>>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What
>>> happens in the diff is
>>>> the drive side (LH)? stub axles takes all the
>>> torque and once you get into
>>>
>>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the
>>> drive gear and next
>>>
>>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go
>>> the left set and have
>>>
>>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It
>>> literally means dropping
>>>> the half shaft and taking it out".
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub
>>> axle"????Is this the same thing
>>>> as the "half shaft"?.???If someone
>>> could give me a clarification about
>>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.,? '70? 3500S
>>>>
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Fri May 22 22:23:11 2009
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 19:23:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Differential help
Message-ID: <630682.25142.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
PS. I know where gears are available :-)
Eric
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--- On Fri, 5/22/09, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote:
> From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Differential help
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Friday, May 22, 2009, 7:13 PM
> The next thing to do is take the
> crown wheel carrier and set it on the bench. Insert stub
> axles back into the crown wheel carrier and rotate them
> against each see how much freeplay there is. Ideally there
> should be all but none, 5 degrees is acceptable but about
> where clunking starts (5 degrees at the output in 15-20
> degrees at the prop shaft).
>
> If is is sloppy, then the problem lies in the gears with in
> the carrier.
>
> Yours
> Vern
> On 22-May-09, at 4:25 PM, LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks to all who replied about my differential.?
> I've just gotten it out
> > without killing myself (note to Glen!!).? I had
> replaced all of the zercs on
> > the u-joints and lubricated all of them.? None
> are frozen and none appear to
> > have too much play.? None of the crown wheel
> bolts are loose.
> >
> > Sooooooo, unless anyone has any other suggestions, I
> think the next move is
> > to go with having the differential rebuilt.? I
> will be contacting Ruth at
> > ABC.? Does anyone else have any ideas of
> contacts/sources for a differential
> > rebuild kit for a '70 3500S differential.
> >
> > Thanks again for all of the help.
> >
> >
> > Lance La Certe, Psy.D.
> >
> >
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> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:36:52 EDT
> >> From: Nash4447 at cs.com
> >> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD1, TR8, 87
> & up Range Rover
> >> heads
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> >> Fellas
> >>
> >> I have a nice pair of heads for the above
> applications should anyone be
> >> interested. They should be hottanked and the
> valves ground, of course. The
> >> valves are fine so the only parts required would
> be new stem seals - no
> >> big
> >> deal.
> >>
> >> $40 for the pair plus shipping or local pickup
> fine. I am in the Los
> >> Angeles area. They are aluminum as you know so the
> fedex? ground shipping
> >> cost
> >> would not be obscene.
> >>
> >> Glenn
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> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:18:08 -0700
> >> From: "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking
> differential
> >> To: "'The original list for Rover car
> enthusiasts.'"
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> >>
> >> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into
> gear. It is from the
> >> loose
> >> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft
> 10-20 deg. If I understand
> >> the book correctly, setting the pinion height
> correctly will eliminate it.
> >> I
> >> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need,
> located in Oregon.
> >>
> >> AvMedSafe
> >> Geff and Julie McCarthy
> >> 677 NW Melinda Ave
> >> Portland OR 97210
> >> 503-241-8468
> >> 503-799-3809 mobile
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> >> On
> >> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
> >> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
> >> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking
> differential
> >>
> >> Hi Lance,
> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ? If
> you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest you
> >> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down
> and remove the side that
> >> comes of and you will find that the crown wheel
> bolts have come loose,
> >> this
> >> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened
> twice to me on different
> >> cars,
> >>
> >> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the
> casing and cracks it and
> >> it is usually none repairable. I solved the
> problem by drilling the heads
> >> of
> >>
> >> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting
> thread locker on the
> >> threads.
> >>
> >> Barry
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some
> recommendations Ruth of
> >>> ABC
> >>> gave me in sorting out my differential
> 'clunking'.? [As part of my
> >>> rebuild
> >>
> >>> I replaced my old differential with a newer
> one which we checked for
> >>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not
> in the differential itself,
> >>> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests
> below]
> >>>
> >>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one
> problem from the history on
> >>> the
> >>
> >>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the
> brakes when backing out of
> >>> the garage and they just let the car roll
> close to a stop when they then
> >>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good.
> What happens in the diff
> >>> is
> >>> the drive side (LH)? stub axles takes all
> the torque and once you get
> >>> into
> >>
> >>> the higher miles it starts to twist the
> splines in the drive gear and
> >>> next
> >>
> >>> thing you know they snap and you have lost
> drive. Go the left set and
> >>> have
> >>
> >>> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle.
> It literally means dropping
> >>> the half shaft and taking it out".
> >>>
> >>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub
> axle"????Is this the same thing
> >>> as the "half shaft"?.???If
> someone could give me a clarification about
> >>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much
> appreciated.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.,? '70? 3500S
> >>>
> >>>
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> >> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:50:03 -0400
> >> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking
> differential
> >> To: "The original list for Rover car
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> >> Geff McCarthy wrote:
> >>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put
> into gear. It is from the
> >>> loose
> >>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft
> 10-20 deg. If I
> >>> understand
> >>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height
> correctly will eliminate
> >>> it. I
> >>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need,
> located in Oregon.
> >>>
> >>> AvMedSafe
> >>> Geff and Julie McCarthy
> >>> 677 NW Melinda Ave
> >>> Portland OR 97210
> >>> 503-241-8468
> >>> 503-799-3809 mobile
> >>>
> >>
> >> Geff,
> >>
> >> I think you should triage this situation and
> AvMedSafe that sucker down
> >> to Colorado. Lance's life may depend on it, and an
> extra set of hands is
> >> always useful when you get into that area around
> the P6 differential...
> >>
> >> Glen
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> >>> On
> >>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
> >>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
> >>> To: The original list for Rover car
> enthusiasts.
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL]
> Clunking differential
> >>>
> >>> Hi Lance,
> >>>? ? ? ? ? ?
> ? If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I
> suggest
> >>> you
> >>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit
> down and remove the side
> >>> that
> >>> comes of and you will find that the crown
> wheel bolts have come loose,
> >>> this
> >>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened
> twice to me on different
> >>> cars,
> >>>
> >>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits
> the casing and cracks it
> >>> and
> >>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the
> problem by drilling the
> >>> heads of
> >>>
> >>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting
> thread locker on the
> >>> threads.
> >>>
> >>> Barry
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering
> some recommendations Ruth of
> >>>> ABC
> >>>> gave me in sorting out my differential
> 'clunking'.? [As part of my
> >>>> rebuild
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I replaced my old differential with a
> newer one which we checked for
> >>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is
> not in the differential
> >>>> itself,
> >>>> but directly external to it as Ruth
> suggests below]
> >>>>
> >>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one
> problem from the history on
> >>>> the
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using
> the brakes when backing out of
> >>>> the garage and they just let the car roll
> close to a stop when they
> >>>> then
> >>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty
> good. What happens in the diff
> >>>> is
> >>>> the drive side (LH)? stub axles takes
> all the torque and once you get
> >>>> into
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the
> splines in the drive gear and
> >>>> next
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost
> drive. Go the left set and
> >>>> have
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub
> axle. It literally means
> >>>> dropping
> >>>> the half shaft and taking it out".
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub
> axle"????Is this the same
> >>>> thing
> >>>> as the "half shaft"?.???If
> someone could give me a clarification about
> >>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much
> appreciated.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.,? '70?
> 3500S
> >>>>
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> >> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:04:15 -0700
> >> From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking
> differential
> >> To: "The original list for Rover car
> enthusiasts."
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> >> More likely the spider gears are worn inside crown
> gear carrier. My
> >> experience has been that the pinion & crown
> gear give no trouble,
> >> other than the earlier mentioned crown wheel bolts
> backing out and
> >> destroying the diff case ;-). But it is very good
> to know that you
> >> have a height gauge. Is it the dual purpose one?
> The manual shows
> >> three (rather, the 4 cyl manual, I assume the V8
> is the same) tools,
> >> push fit, press fit and the aforementioned dual
> one.
> >>
> >> Yours
> >> Vern
> >> On 22-May-09, at 1:18 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
> >>
> >>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put
> into gear. It is from
> >>> the loose
> >>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft
> 10-20 deg. If I
> >>> understand
> >>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height
> correctly will
> >>> eliminate it. I
> >>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need,
> located in Oregon.
> >>>
> >>> AvMedSafe
> >>> Geff and Julie McCarthy
> >>> 677 NW Melinda Ave
> >>> Portland OR 97210
> >>> 503-241-8468
> >>> 503-799-3809 mobile
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> >>> ] On
> >>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
> >>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
> >>> To: The original list for Rover car
> enthusiasts.
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL]
> Clunking differential
> >>>
> >>> Hi Lance,
> >>>? ? ? ? ?
> ???If you have a clunking in the diff. on a
> 3500s I
> >>> suggest you
> >>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit
> down and remove the
> >>> side that
> >>> comes of and you will find that the crown
> wheel bolts have come
> >>> loose, this
> >>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened
> twice to me on
> >>> different cars,
> >>>
> >>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits
> the casing and cracks
> >>> it and
> >>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the
> problem by drilling the
> >>> heads of
> >>>
> >>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting
> thread locker on the
> >>> threads.
> >>>
> >>> Barry
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering
> some recommendations Ruth
> >>>> of ABC
> >>>> gave me in sorting out my differential
> 'clunking'.? [As part of my
> >>>> rebuild
> >>>
> >>>> I replaced my old differential with a
> newer one which we checked for
> >>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is
> not in the differential
> >>>> itself,
> >>>> but directly external to it as Ruth
> suggests below]
> >>>>
> >>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one
> problem from the history
> >>>> on the
> >>>
> >>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using
> the brakes when backing
> >>>> out of
> >>>> the garage and they just let the car roll
> close to a stop when they
> >>>> then
> >>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty
> good. What happens in the
> >>>> diff is
> >>>> the drive side (LH)? stub axles takes
> all the torque and once you
> >>>> get into
> >>>
> >>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the
> splines in the drive gear
> >>>> and next
> >>>
> >>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost
> drive. Go the left set
> >>>> and have
> >>>
> >>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub
> axle. It literally means
> >>>> dropping
> >>>> the half shaft and taking it out".
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub
> axle"????Is this the same
> >>>> thing
> >>>> as the "half shaft"?.???If
> someone could give me a clarification
> >>>> about
> >>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much
> appreciated.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.,? '70?
> 3500S
> >>>>
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> >> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:15:24 -0700 (PDT)
> >> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking
> differential
> >> To: "The original list for Rover car
> enthusiasts."
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> >>
> >> Another reason for rear end "clunking" is a worn
> "U" joint on one of the
> >> half-shafts or the propeller shaft. A person has 6
> "U" joints to consider.
> >> That happened with me.
> >>
> >> Eric
> >>
> >>
> >> Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada
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> >> --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> From: Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL]
> Clunking differential
> >>> To: "'The original list for Rover car
> enthusiasts.'"
> >>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> >>> Received: Friday, May 22, 2009, 1:18 PM
> >>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only
> >>> when put into gear. It is from the loose
> >>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft
> 10-20 deg.
> >>> If I understand
> >>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height
> correctly
> >>> will eliminate it. I
> >>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need,
> located in
> >>> Oregon.
> >>>
> >>> AvMedSafe
> >>> Geff and Julie McCarthy
> >>> 677 NW Melinda Ave
> >>> Portland OR 97210
> >>> 503-241-8468
> >>> 503-799-3809 mobile
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> >>> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> >>> On
> >>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
> >>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
> >>> To: The original list for Rover car
> enthusiasts.
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL]
> Clunking
> >>> differential
> >>>
> >>> Hi Lance,
> >>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? If you
> >>> have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I
> suggest you
> >>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit
> down and
> >>> remove the side that
> >>> comes of and you will find that the crown
> wheel bolts have
> >>> come loose, this
> >>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened
> twice to me
> >>> on different cars,
> >>>
> >>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits
> the casing
> >>> and cracks it and
> >>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the
> problem by
> >>> drilling the heads of
> >>>
> >>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting
> thread
> >>> locker on the threads.
> >>>
> >>> Barry
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering
> some
> >>> recommendations Ruth of ABC
> >>>> gave me in sorting out my differential
> >>> 'clunking'.? [As part of my rebuild
> >>>
> >>>> I replaced my old differential with a
> newer one which
> >>> we checked for
> >>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is
> not in the
> >>> differential itself,
> >>>> but directly external to it as Ruth
> suggests below]
> >>>>
> >>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one
> problem
> >>> from the history on the
> >>>
> >>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using
> the brakes
> >>> when backing out of
> >>>> the garage and they just let the car roll
> close to a
> >>> stop when they then
> >>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty
> good. What
> >>> happens in the diff is
> >>>> the drive side (LH)? stub axles takes all
> the
> >>> torque and once you get into
> >>>
> >>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the
> splines in the
> >>> drive gear and next
> >>>
> >>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost
> drive. Go
> >>> the left set and have
> >>>
> >>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub
> axle. It
> >>> literally means dropping
> >>>> the half shaft and taking it out".
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub
> >>> axle"????Is this the same thing
> >>>> as the "half shaft"?.???If someone
> >>> could give me a clarification about
> >>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much
> appreciated.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.,? '70? 3500S
> >>>>
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From: gbrovers at aol.com (Bill Davis)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 22:38:36 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Differential help
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Message-ID: <1325F4CD-7271-4F28-B2C1-8F43216D0574@aol.com>
I know some Rover cars used the Rover diff i.e. the differential
found in the Land Rover until recently. The P5 I used to own had the
identical diff to a Land Rover other than it had a different ratio. So
the question is, does the 3500 have the Rover differential?
The reason I'm asking is that I own a Land Rover differential
remanufacturing business so rebuilding Rover car differentials would
be a snap for us. I'm new to this forum (about a week or two) and
didn't join to promote differential rebuilding but I thought I would
throw it out as a resource. I'd be happy to try and answer the
original question but didn't save it so if whoever originally asked it
throws it back out, I'll take a crack at it.
Bill
On May 22, 2009, at 8:23 PM, Eric Russell wrote:
>
> PS. I know where gears are available :-)
> Eric
>
>
> Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada
> Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/
> Webmaster of a variety of sites from:
> http://www.websrus.ca
>
>
> --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Differential help
>> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> >
>> Received: Friday, May 22, 2009, 7:13 PM
>> The next thing to do is take the
>> crown wheel carrier and set it on the bench. Insert stub
>> axles back into the crown wheel carrier and rotate them
>> against each see how much freeplay there is. Ideally there
>> should be all but none, 5 degrees is acceptable but about
>> where clunking starts (5 degrees at the output in 15-20
>> degrees at the prop shaft).
>>
>> If is is sloppy, then the problem lies in the gears with in
>> the carrier.
>>
>> Yours
>> Vern
>> On 22-May-09, at 4:25 PM, LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks to all who replied about my differential.
>> I've just gotten it out
>>> without killing myself (note to Glen!!). I had
>> replaced all of the zercs on
>>> the u-joints and lubricated all of them. None
>> are frozen and none appear to
>>> have too much play. None of the crown wheel
>> bolts are loose.
>>>
>>> Sooooooo, unless anyone has any other suggestions, I
>> think the next move is
>>> to go with having the differential rebuilt. I
>> will be contacting Ruth at
>>> ABC. Does anyone else have any ideas of
>> contacts/sources for a differential
>>> rebuild kit for a '70 3500S differential.
>>>
>>> Thanks again for all of the help.
>>>
>>>
>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.
>>>
>>>
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>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:36:52 EDT
>>>> From: Nash4447 at cs.com
>>>> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD1, TR8, 87
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>>>> Fellas
>>>>
>>>> I have a nice pair of heads for the above
>> applications should anyone be
>>>> interested. They should be hottanked and the
>> valves ground, of course. The
>>>> valves are fine so the only parts required would
>> be new stem seals - no
>>>> big
>>>> deal.
>>>>
>>>> $40 for the pair plus shipping or local pickup
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>>>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:18:08 -0700
>>>> From: "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking
>> differential
>>>> To: "'The original list for Rover car
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>>>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into
>> gear. It is from the
>>>> loose
>>>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft
>> 10-20 deg. If I understand
>>>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height
>> correctly will eliminate it.
>>>> I
>>>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need,
>> located in Oregon.
>>>>
>>>> AvMedSafe
>>>> Geff and Julie McCarthy
>>>> 677 NW Melinda Ave
>>>> Portland OR 97210
>>>> 503-241-8468
>>>> 503-799-3809 mobile
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
>> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
>>>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking
>> differential
>>>>
>>>> Hi Lance,
>>>> If
>> you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest you
>>>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down
>> and remove the side that
>>>> comes of and you will find that the crown wheel
>> bolts have come loose,
>>>> this
>>>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened
>> twice to me on different
>>>> cars,
>>>>
>>>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the
>> casing and cracks it and
>>>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the
>> problem by drilling the heads
>>>> of
>>>>
>>>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting
>> thread locker on the
>>>> threads.
>>>>
>>>> Barry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some
>> recommendations Ruth of
>>>>> ABC
>>>>> gave me in sorting out my differential
>> 'clunking'. [As part of my
>>>>> rebuild
>>>>
>>>>> I replaced my old differential with a newer
>> one which we checked for
>>>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not
>> in the differential itself,
>>>>> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests
>> below]
>>>>>
>>>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one
>> problem from the history on
>>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the
>> brakes when backing out of
>>>>> the garage and they just let the car roll
>> close to a stop when they then
>>>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good.
>> What happens in the diff
>>>>> is
>>>>> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all
>> the torque and once you get
>>>>> into
>>>>
>>>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the
>> splines in the drive gear and
>>>>> next
>>>>
>>>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost
>> drive. Go the left set and
>>>>> have
>>>>
>>>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle.
>> It literally means dropping
>>>>> the half shaft and taking it out".
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub
>> axle"? Is this the same thing
>>>>> as the "half shaft"?. If
>> someone could give me a clarification about
>>>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much
>> appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:50:03 -0400
>>>> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking
>> differential
>>>> To: "The original list for Rover car
>> enthusiasts."
>>>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
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>>>> Geff McCarthy wrote:
>>>>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put
>> into gear. It is from the
>>>>> loose
>>>>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft
>> 10-20 deg. If I
>>>>> understand
>>>>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height
>> correctly will eliminate
>>>>> it. I
>>>>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need,
>> located in Oregon.
>>>>>
>>>>> AvMedSafe
>>>>> Geff and Julie McCarthy
>>>>> 677 NW Melinda Ave
>>>>> Portland OR 97210
>>>>> 503-241-8468
>>>>> 503-799-3809 mobile
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Geff,
>>>>
>>>> I think you should triage this situation and
>> AvMedSafe that sucker down
>>>> to Colorado. Lance's life may depend on it, and an
>> extra set of hands is
>>>> always useful when you get into that area around
>> the P6 differential...
>>>>
>>>> Glen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
>> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
>>>>> To: The original list for Rover car
>> enthusiasts.
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL]
>> Clunking differential
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Lance,
>>>>>
>> If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I
>> suggest
>>>>> you
>>>>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit
>> down and remove the side
>>>>> that
>>>>> comes of and you will find that the crown
>> wheel bolts have come loose,
>>>>> this
>>>>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened
>> twice to me on different
>>>>> cars,
>>>>>
>>>>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits
>> the casing and cracks it
>>>>> and
>>>>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the
>> problem by drilling the
>>>>> heads of
>>>>>
>>>>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting
>> thread locker on the
>>>>> threads.
>>>>>
>>>>> Barry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering
>> some recommendations Ruth of
>>>>>> ABC
>>>>>> gave me in sorting out my differential
>> 'clunking'. [As part of my
>>>>>> rebuild
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I replaced my old differential with a
>> newer one which we checked for
>>>>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is
>> not in the differential
>>>>>> itself,
>>>>>> but directly external to it as Ruth
>> suggests below]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one
>> problem from the history on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using
>> the brakes when backing out of
>>>>>> the garage and they just let the car roll
>> close to a stop when they
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty
>> good. What happens in the diff
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes
>> all the torque and once you get
>>>>>> into
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the
>> splines in the drive gear and
>>>>>> next
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost
>> drive. Go the left set and
>>>>>> have
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub
>> axle. It literally means
>>>>>> dropping
>>>>>> the half shaft and taking it out".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub
>> axle"? Is this the same
>>>>>> thing
>>>>>> as the "half shaft"?. If
>> someone could give me a clarification about
>>>>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much
>> appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70
>> 3500S
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>> Message: 4
>>>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:04:15 -0700
>>>> From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking
>> differential
>>>> To: "The original list for Rover car
>> enthusiasts."
>>>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
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>>>> More likely the spider gears are worn inside crown
>> gear carrier. My
>>>> experience has been that the pinion & crown
>> gear give no trouble,
>>>> other than the earlier mentioned crown wheel bolts
>> backing out and
>>>> destroying the diff case ;-). But it is very good
>> to know that you
>>>> have a height gauge. Is it the dual purpose one?
>> The manual shows
>>>> three (rather, the 4 cyl manual, I assume the V8
>> is the same) tools,
>>>> push fit, press fit and the aforementioned dual
>> one.
>>>>
>>>> Yours
>>>> Vern
>>>> On 22-May-09, at 1:18 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put
>> into gear. It is from
>>>>> the loose
>>>>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft
>> 10-20 deg. If I
>>>>> understand
>>>>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height
>> correctly will
>>>>> eliminate it. I
>>>>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need,
>> located in Oregon.
>>>>>
>>>>> AvMedSafe
>>>>> Geff and Julie McCarthy
>>>>> 677 NW Melinda Ave
>>>>> Portland OR 97210
>>>>> 503-241-8468
>>>>> 503-799-3809 mobile
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
>> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
>>>>> ] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
>>>>> To: The original list for Rover car
>> enthusiasts.
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL]
>> Clunking differential
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Lance,
>>>>>
>> If you have a clunking in the diff. on a
>> 3500s I
>>>>> suggest you
>>>>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit
>> down and remove the
>>>>> side that
>>>>> comes of and you will find that the crown
>> wheel bolts have come
>>>>> loose, this
>>>>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened
>> twice to me on
>>>>> different cars,
>>>>>
>>>>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits
>> the casing and cracks
>>>>> it and
>>>>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the
>> problem by drilling the
>>>>> heads of
>>>>>
>>>>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting
>> thread locker on the
>>>>> threads.
>>>>>
>>>>> Barry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering
>> some recommendations Ruth
>>>>>> of ABC
>>>>>> gave me in sorting out my differential
>> 'clunking'. [As part of my
>>>>>> rebuild
>>>>>
>>>>>> I replaced my old differential with a
>> newer one which we checked for
>>>>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is
>> not in the differential
>>>>>> itself,
>>>>>> but directly external to it as Ruth
>> suggests below]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one
>> problem from the history
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>
>>>>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using
>> the brakes when backing
>>>>>> out of
>>>>>> the garage and they just let the car roll
>> close to a stop when they
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty
>> good. What happens in the
>>>>>> diff is
>>>>>> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes
>> all the torque and once you
>>>>>> get into
>>>>>
>>>>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the
>> splines in the drive gear
>>>>>> and next
>>>>>
>>>>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost
>> drive. Go the left set
>>>>>> and have
>>>>>
>>>>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub
>> axle. It literally means
>>>>>> dropping
>>>>>> the half shaft and taking it out".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub
>> axle"? Is this the same
>>>>>> thing
>>>>>> as the "half shaft"?. If
>> someone could give me a clarification
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much
>> appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70
>> 3500S
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>> Message: 5
>>>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:15:24 -0700 (PDT)
>>>> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking
>> differential
>>>> To: "The original list for Rover car
>> enthusiasts."
>>>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
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>>>>
>>>> Another reason for rear end "clunking" is a worn
>> "U" joint on one of the
>>>> half-shafts or the propeller shaft. A person has 6
>> "U" joints to consider.
>>>> That happened with me.
>>>>
>>>> Eric
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada
>>>> Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/
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>>>>
>>>> --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From: Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL]
>> Clunking differential
>>>>> To: "'The original list for Rover car
>> enthusiasts.'"
>>>>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>>>>> Received: Friday, May 22, 2009, 1:18 PM
>>>>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only
>>>>> when put into gear. It is from the loose
>>>>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft
>> 10-20 deg.
>>>>> If I understand
>>>>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height
>> correctly
>>>>> will eliminate it. I
>>>>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need,
>> located in
>>>>> Oregon.
>>>>>
>>>>> AvMedSafe
>>>>> Geff and Julie McCarthy
>>>>> 677 NW Melinda Ave
>>>>> Portland OR 97210
>>>>> 503-241-8468
>>>>> 503-799-3809 mobile
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
>>>>> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
>>>>> To: The original list for Rover car
>> enthusiasts.
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL]
>> Clunking
>>>>> differential
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Lance,
>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? If you
>>>>> have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I
>> suggest you
>>>>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit
>> down and
>>>>> remove the side that
>>>>> comes of and you will find that the crown
>> wheel bolts have
>>>>> come loose, this
>>>>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened
>> twice to me
>>>>> on different cars,
>>>>>
>>>>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits
>> the casing
>>>>> and cracks it and
>>>>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the
>> problem by
>>>>> drilling the heads of
>>>>>
>>>>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting
>> thread
>>>>> locker on the threads.
>>>>>
>>>>> Barry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering
>> some
>>>>> recommendations Ruth of ABC
>>>>>> gave me in sorting out my differential
>>>>> 'clunking'.? [As part of my rebuild
>>>>>
>>>>>> I replaced my old differential with a
>> newer one which
>>>>> we checked for
>>>>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is
>> not in the
>>>>> differential itself,
>>>>>> but directly external to it as Ruth
>> suggests below]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one
>> problem
>>>>> from the history on the
>>>>>
>>>>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using
>> the brakes
>>>>> when backing out of
>>>>>> the garage and they just let the car roll
>> close to a
>>>>> stop when they then
>>>>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty
>> good. What
>>>>> happens in the diff is
>>>>>> the drive side (LH)? stub axles takes all
>> the
>>>>> torque and once you get into
>>>>>
>>>>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the
>> splines in the
>>>>> drive gear and next
>>>>>
>>>>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost
>> drive. Go
>>>>> the left set and have
>>>>>
>>>>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub
>> axle. It
>>>>> literally means dropping
>>>>>> the half shaft and taking it out".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub
>>>>> axle"????Is this the same thing
>>>>>> as the "half shaft"?.???If someone
>>>>> could give me a clarification about
>>>>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much
>> appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.,? '70? 3500S
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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From vmitps at netspace.net.au Sat May 23 03:02:09 2009
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 17:02:09 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Differential help
In-Reply-To: <1325F4CD-7271-4F28-B2C1-8F43216D0574@aol.com>
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The p6 diffs are different to the p4/p5/landy diffs.
However many of the principles are the same, the idler gears may have the
same number of teeth etc.
PVS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Davis" <gbrovers at aol.com>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Differential help
I know some Rover cars used the Rover diff i.e. the differential
found in the Land Rover until recently. The P5 I used to own had the
identical diff to a Land Rover other than it had a different ratio. So
the question is, does the 3500 have the Rover differential?
The reason I'm asking is that I own a Land Rover differential
remanufacturing business so rebuilding Rover car differentials would
be a snap for us. I'm new to this forum (about a week or two) and
didn't join to promote differential rebuilding but I thought I would
throw it out as a resource. I'd be happy to try and answer the
original question but didn't save it so if whoever originally asked it
throws it back out, I'll take a crack at it.
Bill
On May 22, 2009, at 8:23 PM, Eric Russell wrote:
>
> PS. I know where gears are available :-)
> Eric
>
>
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> --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Differential help
>> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> >
>> Received: Friday, May 22, 2009, 7:13 PM
>> The next thing to do is take the
>> crown wheel carrier and set it on the bench. Insert stub
>> axles back into the crown wheel carrier and rotate them
>> against each see how much freeplay there is. Ideally there
>> should be all but none, 5 degrees is acceptable but about
>> where clunking starts (5 degrees at the output in 15-20
>> degrees at the prop shaft).
>>
>> If is is sloppy, then the problem lies in the gears with in
>> the carrier.
>>
>> Yours
>> Vern
>> On 22-May-09, at 4:25 PM, LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks to all who replied about my differential.
>> I've just gotten it out
>>> without killing myself (note to Glen!!). I had
>> replaced all of the zercs on
>>> the u-joints and lubricated all of them. None
>> are frozen and none appear to
>>> have too much play. None of the crown wheel
>> bolts are loose.
>>>
>>> Sooooooo, unless anyone has any other suggestions, I
>> think the next move is
>>> to go with having the differential rebuilt. I
>> will be contacting Ruth at
>>> ABC. Does anyone else have any ideas of
>> contacts/sources for a differential
>>> rebuild kit for a '70 3500S differential.
>>>
>>> Thanks again for all of the help.
>>>
>>>
>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.
>>>
>>>
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>>>> 1. SD1, TR8, 87 & up Range
>> Rover heads (Nash4447 at cs.com)
>>>> 2. Re: Clunking differential
>> (Geff McCarthy)
>>>> 3. Re: Clunking differential
>> (Glen Wilson)
>>>> 4. Re: Clunking differential
>> (Vern Klukas)
>>>> 5. Re: Clunking differential
>> (Eric Russell)
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>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:36:52 EDT
>>>> From: Nash4447 at cs.com
>>>> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD1, TR8, 87
>> & up Range Rover
>>>> heads
>>>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>>>> Message-ID: <c47.5966f046.37484ac4 at cs.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Fellas
>>>>
>>>> I have a nice pair of heads for the above
>> applications should anyone be
>>>> interested. They should be hottanked and the
>> valves ground, of course. The
>>>> valves are fine so the only parts required would
>> be new stem seals - no
>>>> big
>>>> deal.
>>>>
>>>> $40 for the pair plus shipping or local pickup
>> fine. I am in the Los
>>>> Angeles area. They are aluminum as you know so the
>> fedex ground shipping
>>>> cost
>>>> would not be obscene.
>>>>
>>>> Glenn
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>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:18:08 -0700
>>>> From: "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking
>> differential
>>>> To: "'The original list for Rover car
>> enthusiasts.'"
>>>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
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>>>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into
>> gear. It is from the
>>>> loose
>>>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft
>> 10-20 deg. If I understand
>>>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height
>> correctly will eliminate it.
>>>> I
>>>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need,
>> located in Oregon.
>>>>
>>>> AvMedSafe
>>>> Geff and Julie McCarthy
>>>> 677 NW Melinda Ave
>>>> Portland OR 97210
>>>> 503-241-8468
>>>> 503-799-3809 mobile
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
>> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
>>>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking
>> differential
>>>>
>>>> Hi Lance,
>>>> If
>> you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest you
>>>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down
>> and remove the side that
>>>> comes of and you will find that the crown wheel
>> bolts have come loose,
>>>> this
>>>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened
>> twice to me on different
>>>> cars,
>>>>
>>>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the
>> casing and cracks it and
>>>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the
>> problem by drilling the heads
>>>> of
>>>>
>>>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting
>> thread locker on the
>>>> threads.
>>>>
>>>> Barry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some
>> recommendations Ruth of
>>>>> ABC
>>>>> gave me in sorting out my differential
>> 'clunking'. [As part of my
>>>>> rebuild
>>>>
>>>>> I replaced my old differential with a newer
>> one which we checked for
>>>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not
>> in the differential itself,
>>>>> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests
>> below]
>>>>>
>>>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one
>> problem from the history on
>>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the
>> brakes when backing out of
>>>>> the garage and they just let the car roll
>> close to a stop when they then
>>>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good.
>> What happens in the diff
>>>>> is
>>>>> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all
>> the torque and once you get
>>>>> into
>>>>
>>>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the
>> splines in the drive gear and
>>>>> next
>>>>
>>>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost
>> drive. Go the left set and
>>>>> have
>>>>
>>>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle.
>> It literally means dropping
>>>>> the half shaft and taking it out".
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub
>> axle"? Is this the same thing
>>>>> as the "half shaft"?. If
>> someone could give me a clarification about
>>>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much
>> appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:50:03 -0400
>>>> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking
>> differential
>>>> To: "The original list for Rover car
>> enthusiasts."
>>>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
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>>>> Geff McCarthy wrote:
>>>>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put
>> into gear. It is from the
>>>>> loose
>>>>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft
>> 10-20 deg. If I
>>>>> understand
>>>>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height
>> correctly will eliminate
>>>>> it. I
>>>>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need,
>> located in Oregon.
>>>>>
>>>>> AvMedSafe
>>>>> Geff and Julie McCarthy
>>>>> 677 NW Melinda Ave
>>>>> Portland OR 97210
>>>>> 503-241-8468
>>>>> 503-799-3809 mobile
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Geff,
>>>>
>>>> I think you should triage this situation and
>> AvMedSafe that sucker down
>>>> to Colorado. Lance's life may depend on it, and an
>> extra set of hands is
>>>> always useful when you get into that area around
>> the P6 differential...
>>>>
>>>> Glen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
>> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
>>>>> To: The original list for Rover car
>> enthusiasts.
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL]
>> Clunking differential
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Lance,
>>>>>
>> If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I
>> suggest
>>>>> you
>>>>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit
>> down and remove the side
>>>>> that
>>>>> comes of and you will find that the crown
>> wheel bolts have come loose,
>>>>> this
>>>>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened
>> twice to me on different
>>>>> cars,
>>>>>
>>>>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits
>> the casing and cracks it
>>>>> and
>>>>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the
>> problem by drilling the
>>>>> heads of
>>>>>
>>>>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting
>> thread locker on the
>>>>> threads.
>>>>>
>>>>> Barry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering
>> some recommendations Ruth of
>>>>>> ABC
>>>>>> gave me in sorting out my differential
>> 'clunking'. [As part of my
>>>>>> rebuild
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I replaced my old differential with a
>> newer one which we checked for
>>>>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is
>> not in the differential
>>>>>> itself,
>>>>>> but directly external to it as Ruth
>> suggests below]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one
>> problem from the history on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using
>> the brakes when backing out of
>>>>>> the garage and they just let the car roll
>> close to a stop when they
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty
>> good. What happens in the diff
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes
>> all the torque and once you get
>>>>>> into
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the
>> splines in the drive gear and
>>>>>> next
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost
>> drive. Go the left set and
>>>>>> have
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub
>> axle. It literally means
>>>>>> dropping
>>>>>> the half shaft and taking it out".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub
>> axle"? Is this the same
>>>>>> thing
>>>>>> as the "half shaft"?. If
>> someone could give me a clarification about
>>>>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much
>> appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70
>> 3500S
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>> Message: 4
>>>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:04:15 -0700
>>>> From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking
>> differential
>>>> To: "The original list for Rover car
>> enthusiasts."
>>>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
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>>>> More likely the spider gears are worn inside crown
>> gear carrier. My
>>>> experience has been that the pinion & crown
>> gear give no trouble,
>>>> other than the earlier mentioned crown wheel bolts
>> backing out and
>>>> destroying the diff case ;-). But it is very good
>> to know that you
>>>> have a height gauge. Is it the dual purpose one?
>> The manual shows
>>>> three (rather, the 4 cyl manual, I assume the V8
>> is the same) tools,
>>>> push fit, press fit and the aforementioned dual
>> one.
>>>>
>>>> Yours
>>>> Vern
>>>> On 22-May-09, at 1:18 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put
>> into gear. It is from
>>>>> the loose
>>>>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft
>> 10-20 deg. If I
>>>>> understand
>>>>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height
>> correctly will
>>>>> eliminate it. I
>>>>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need,
>> located in Oregon.
>>>>>
>>>>> AvMedSafe
>>>>> Geff and Julie McCarthy
>>>>> 677 NW Melinda Ave
>>>>> Portland OR 97210
>>>>> 503-241-8468
>>>>> 503-799-3809 mobile
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
>> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
>>>>> ] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
>>>>> To: The original list for Rover car
>> enthusiasts.
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL]
>> Clunking differential
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Lance,
>>>>>
>> If you have a clunking in the diff. on a
>> 3500s I
>>>>> suggest you
>>>>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit
>> down and remove the
>>>>> side that
>>>>> comes of and you will find that the crown
>> wheel bolts have come
>>>>> loose, this
>>>>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened
>> twice to me on
>>>>> different cars,
>>>>>
>>>>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits
>> the casing and cracks
>>>>> it and
>>>>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the
>> problem by drilling the
>>>>> heads of
>>>>>
>>>>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting
>> thread locker on the
>>>>> threads.
>>>>>
>>>>> Barry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering
>> some recommendations Ruth
>>>>>> of ABC
>>>>>> gave me in sorting out my differential
>> 'clunking'. [As part of my
>>>>>> rebuild
>>>>>
>>>>>> I replaced my old differential with a
>> newer one which we checked for
>>>>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is
>> not in the differential
>>>>>> itself,
>>>>>> but directly external to it as Ruth
>> suggests below]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one
>> problem from the history
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>
>>>>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using
>> the brakes when backing
>>>>>> out of
>>>>>> the garage and they just let the car roll
>> close to a stop when they
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty
>> good. What happens in the
>>>>>> diff is
>>>>>> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes
>> all the torque and once you
>>>>>> get into
>>>>>
>>>>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the
>> splines in the drive gear
>>>>>> and next
>>>>>
>>>>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost
>> drive. Go the left set
>>>>>> and have
>>>>>
>>>>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub
>> axle. It literally means
>>>>>> dropping
>>>>>> the half shaft and taking it out".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub
>> axle"? Is this the same
>>>>>> thing
>>>>>> as the "half shaft"?. If
>> someone could give me a clarification
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much
>> appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70
>> 3500S
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>> Message: 5
>>>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:15:24 -0700 (PDT)
>>>> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking
>> differential
>>>> To: "The original list for Rover car
>> enthusiasts."
>>>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>>>> Message-ID: <871787.19677.qm at web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Another reason for rear end "clunking" is a worn
>> "U" joint on one of the
>>>> half-shafts or the propeller shaft. A person has 6
>> "U" joints to consider.
>>>> That happened with me.
>>>>
>>>> Eric
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada
>>>> Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From: Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL]
>> Clunking differential
>>>>> To: "'The original list for Rover car
>> enthusiasts.'"
>>>>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>>>>> Received: Friday, May 22, 2009, 1:18 PM
>>>>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only
>>>>> when put into gear. It is from the loose
>>>>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft
>> 10-20 deg.
>>>>> If I understand
>>>>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height
>> correctly
>>>>> will eliminate it. I
>>>>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need,
>> located in
>>>>> Oregon.
>>>>>
>>>>> AvMedSafe
>>>>> Geff and Julie McCarthy
>>>>> 677 NW Melinda Ave
>>>>> Portland OR 97210
>>>>> 503-241-8468
>>>>> 503-799-3809 mobile
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
>>>>> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
>>>>> To: The original list for Rover car
>> enthusiasts.
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL]
>> Clunking
>>>>> differential
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Lance,
>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? If you
>>>>> have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I
>> suggest you
>>>>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit
>> down and
>>>>> remove the side that
>>>>> comes of and you will find that the crown
>> wheel bolts have
>>>>> come loose, this
>>>>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened
>> twice to me
>>>>> on different cars,
>>>>>
>>>>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits
>> the casing
>>>>> and cracks it and
>>>>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the
>> problem by
>>>>> drilling the heads of
>>>>>
>>>>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting
>> thread
>>>>> locker on the threads.
>>>>>
>>>>> Barry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering
>> some
>>>>> recommendations Ruth of ABC
>>>>>> gave me in sorting out my differential
>>>>> 'clunking'.? [As part of my rebuild
>>>>>
>>>>>> I replaced my old differential with a
>> newer one which
>>>>> we checked for
>>>>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is
>> not in the
>>>>> differential itself,
>>>>>> but directly external to it as Ruth
>> suggests below]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one
>> problem
>>>>> from the history on the
>>>>>
>>>>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using
>> the brakes
>>>>> when backing out of
>>>>>> the garage and they just let the car roll
>> close to a
>>>>> stop when they then
>>>>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty
>> good. What
>>>>> happens in the diff is
>>>>>> the drive side (LH)? stub axles takes all
>> the
>>>>> torque and once you get into
>>>>>
>>>>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the
>> splines in the
>>>>> drive gear and next
>>>>>
>>>>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost
>> drive. Go
>>>>> the left set and have
>>>>>
>>>>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub
>> axle. It
>>>>> literally means dropping
>>>>>> the half shaft and taking it out".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub
>>>>> axle"????Is this the same thing
>>>>>> as the "half shaft"?.???If someone
>>>>> could give me a clarification about
>>>>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much
>> appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.,? '70? 3500S
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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From kkinard at att.net Sat May 23 10:23:58 2009
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 09:23:58 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] North American P5B Owners Free Offer
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Hi Netters,
If you own a P5B, either Saloon or Coupe, and live in North America, I
will send you a pair of genuine Rover P5B cufflinks if you will send me
a picture of your car and VIN. This offer is good for the first twelve
cars only and Dirk only gets one pair:-) I am betting that there aren't
twelve P5B owners in North America.
Bill Davis, who just recently joined the list, has a P5B Coupe _LHD_,
though he hasn't shared the details as yet.
Roverfreeofferly,
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From geffandjulie at comcast.net Sat May 23 11:32:06 2009
From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 08:32:06 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
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Sorry, I don't know which it is. It is a huge, heavy steel cylinder!
AvMedSafe
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677 NW Melinda Ave
Portland OR 97210
503-241-8468
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-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Vern Klukas
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 2:04 PM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
More likely the spider gears are worn inside crown gear carrier. My
experience has been that the pinion & crown gear give no trouble,
other than the earlier mentioned crown wheel bolts backing out and
destroying the diff case ;-). But it is very good to know that you
have a height gauge. Is it the dual purpose one? The manual shows
three (rather, the 4 cyl manual, I assume the V8 is the same) tools,
push fit, press fit and the aforementioned dual one.
Yours
Vern
On 22-May-09, at 1:18 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from
> the loose
> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I
> understand
> the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will
> eliminate it. I
> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon.
>
> AvMedSafe
> Geff and Julie McCarthy
> 677 NW Melinda Ave
> Portland OR 97210
> 503-241-8468
> 503-799-3809 mobile
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> ] On
> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>
> Hi Lance,
> If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I
> suggest you
> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the
> side that
> comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come
> loose, this
> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on
> different cars,
>
> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks
> it and
> it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the
> heads of
>
> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the
> threads.
>
> Barry
>
>
>>
>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth
>> of ABC
>> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my
>> rebuild
>
>> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for
>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential
>> itself,
>> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below]
>>
>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history
>> on the
>
>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing
>> out of
>> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they
>> then
>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the
>> diff is
>> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you
>> get into
>
>> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear
>> and next
>
>> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set
>> and have
>
>> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means
>> dropping
>> the half shaft and taking it out".
>>
>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same
>> thing
>> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification
>> about
>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated.
>>
>>
>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S
>>
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From geffandjulie at comcast.net Sat May 23 11:35:04 2009
From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 08:35:04 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Spare P6 Differential help
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I have a spare P6 3500S diff, if needed. It has a welded case, but worked
fine when I elected to replace it. I replaced it because of its "clunk" when
engaging the transmission. The new one has the same clunk. Go figure. I
would only expect a nominal fee for it, but postage will be daunting.
(Portland, Oregon.)
AvMedSafe
Geff and Julie McCarthy
677 NW Melinda Ave
Portland OR 97210
503-241-8468
503-799-3809 mobile
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 4:25 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Differential help
Thanks to all who replied about my differential. I've just gotten it out
without killing myself (note to Glen!!). I had replaced all of the zercs on
the u-joints and lubricated all of them. None are frozen and none appear to
have too much play. None of the crown wheel bolts are loose.
Sooooooo, unless anyone has any other suggestions, I think the next move is
to go with having the differential rebuilt. I will be contacting Ruth at
ABC. Does anyone else have any ideas of contacts/sources for a differential
rebuild kit for a '70 3500S differential.
Thanks again for all of the help.
Lance La Certe, Psy.D.
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> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:36:52 EDT
> From: Nash4447 at cs.com
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD1, TR8, 87 & up Range Rover
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> Fellas
>
> I have a nice pair of heads for the above applications should anyone be
> interested. They should be hottanked and the valves ground, of course. The
> valves are fine so the only parts required would be new stem seals - no
> big
> deal.
>
> $40 for the pair plus shipping or local pickup fine. I am in the Los
> Angeles area. They are aluminum as you know so the fedex ground shipping
> cost
> would not be obscene.
>
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> From: "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
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> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from the
> loose
> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I understand
> the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will eliminate it.
> I
> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon.
>
> AvMedSafe
> Geff and Julie McCarthy
> 677 NW Melinda Ave
> Portland OR 97210
> 503-241-8468
> 503-799-3809 mobile
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On
> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>
> Hi Lance,
> If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest you
> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the side that
> comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come loose,
> this
> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on different
> cars,
>
> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks it and
> it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the heads
> of
>
> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the
> threads.
>
> Barry
>
>
> >
> > I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth of
> > ABC
> > gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my
> > rebuild
>
> > I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for
> > 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential itself,
> > but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below]
> >
> > She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history on
> > the
>
> > S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing out of
> > the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they then
> > put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the diff
> > is
> > the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you get
> > into
>
> > the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear and
> > next
>
> > thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set and
> > have
>
> > a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means dropping
> > the half shaft and taking it out".
> >
> > I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same thing
> > as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification about
> > what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated.
> >
> >
> > Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:50:03 -0400
> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
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>
> Geff McCarthy wrote:
> > My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from the
> > loose
> > play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I
> > understand
> > the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will eliminate
> > it. I
> > have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon.
> >
> > AvMedSafe
> > Geff and Julie McCarthy
> > 677 NW Melinda Ave
> > Portland OR 97210
> > 503-241-8468
> > 503-799-3809 mobile
> >
>
> Geff,
>
> I think you should triage this situation and AvMedSafe that sucker down
> to Colorado. Lance's life may depend on it, and an extra set of hands is
> always useful when you get into that area around the P6 differential...
>
> Glen
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> > On
> > Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
> > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
> > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
> >
> > Hi Lance,
> > If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest
> > you
> > stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the side
> > that
> > comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come loose,
> > this
> > is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on different
> > cars,
> >
> > if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks it
> > and
> > it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the
> > heads of
> >
> > the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the
> > threads.
> >
> > Barry
> >
> >
> >
> >> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth of
> >> ABC
> >> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my
> >> rebuild
> >>
> >
> >
> >> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for
> >> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential
> >> itself,
> >> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below]
> >>
> >> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history on
> >> the
> >>
> >
> >
> >> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing out of
> >> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they
> >> then
> >> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the diff
> >> is
> >> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you get
> >> into
> >>
> >
> >
> >> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear and
> >> next
> >>
> >
> >
> >> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set and
> >> have
> >>
> >
> >
> >> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means
> >> dropping
> >> the half shaft and taking it out".
> >>
> >> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same
> >> thing
> >> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification about
> >> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated.
> >>
> >>
> >> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S
> >>
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> From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com>
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> More likely the spider gears are worn inside crown gear carrier. My
> experience has been that the pinion & crown gear give no trouble,
> other than the earlier mentioned crown wheel bolts backing out and
> destroying the diff case ;-). But it is very good to know that you
> have a height gauge. Is it the dual purpose one? The manual shows
> three (rather, the 4 cyl manual, I assume the V8 is the same) tools,
> push fit, press fit and the aforementioned dual one.
>
> Yours
> Vern
> On 22-May-09, at 1:18 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
>
> > My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from
> > the loose
> > play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I
> > understand
> > the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will
> > eliminate it. I
> > have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon.
> >
> > AvMedSafe
> > Geff and Julie McCarthy
> > 677 NW Melinda Ave
> > Portland OR 97210
> > 503-241-8468
> > 503-799-3809 mobile
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> > ] On
> > Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
> > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
> > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
> >
> > Hi Lance,
> > If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I
> > suggest you
> > stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the
> > side that
> > comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come
> > loose, this
> > is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on
> > different cars,
> >
> > if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks
> > it and
> > it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the
> > heads of
> >
> > the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the
> > threads.
> >
> > Barry
> >
> >
> >>
> >> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth
> >> of ABC
> >> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my
> >> rebuild
> >
> >> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for
> >> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential
> >> itself,
> >> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below]
> >>
> >> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history
> >> on the
> >
> >> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing
> >> out of
> >> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they
> >> then
> >> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the
> >> diff is
> >> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you
> >> get into
> >
> >> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear
> >> and next
> >
> >> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set
> >> and have
> >
> >> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means
> >> dropping
> >> the half shaft and taking it out".
> >>
> >> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same
> >> thing
> >> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification
> >> about
> >> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated.
> >>
> >>
> >> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S
> >>
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> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:15:24 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
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>
> Another reason for rear end "clunking" is a worn "U" joint on one of the
> half-shafts or the propeller shaft. A person has 6 "U" joints to consider.
> That happened with me.
>
> Eric
>
>
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>
> --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > From: Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
> > To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'"
> > <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> > Received: Friday, May 22, 2009, 1:18 PM
> > My "new" diff also clunks, but only
> > when put into gear. It is from the loose
> > play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg.
> > If I understand
> > the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly
> > will eliminate it. I
> > have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in
> > Oregon.
> >
> > AvMedSafe
> > Geff and Julie McCarthy
> > 677 NW Melinda Ave
> > Portland OR 97210
> > 503-241-8468
> > 503-799-3809 mobile
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> > [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> > On
> > Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
> > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
> > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking
> > differential
> >
> > Hi Lance,
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? If you
> > have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest you
> > stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and
> > remove the side that
> > comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have
> > come loose, this
> > is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me
> > on different cars,
> >
> > if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing
> > and cracks it and
> > it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by
> > drilling the heads of
> >
> > the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread
> > locker on the threads.
> >
> > Barry
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I would appreciate some help/deciphering some
> > recommendations Ruth of ABC
> > > gave me in sorting out my differential
> > 'clunking'.? [As part of my rebuild
> >
> > > I replaced my old differential with a newer one which
> > we checked for
> > > 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the
> > differential itself,
> > > but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below]
> > >
> > > She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem
> > from the history on the
> >
> > > S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes
> > when backing out of
> > > the garage and they just let the car roll close to a
> > stop when they then
> > > put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What
> > happens in the diff is
> > > the drive side (LH)? stub axles takes all the
> > torque and once you get into
> >
> > > the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the
> > drive gear and next
> >
> > > thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go
> > the left set and have
> >
> > > a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It
> > literally means dropping
> > > the half shaft and taking it out".
> > >
> > > I'm not sure what she means by the "stub
> > axle"????Is this the same thing
> > > as the "half shaft"?.???If someone
> > could give me a clarification about
> > > what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated.
> > >
> > >
> > > Lance La Certe, Psy.D.,? '70? 3500S
> > >
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From vern at inkspotco.com Sat May 23 12:09:18 2009
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Main)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 09:09:18 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
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There should be a part number on it somewhere. The dual use one is
605004. The other two numbers are 600299 & 601998
Yours
Vern
Inkspot Type & Design
250 864 5619
Sent from my iPhone
On 23-May-09, at 8:32, "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net> wrote:
> Sorry, I don't know which it is. It is a huge, heavy steel cylinder!
>
> AvMedSafe
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> ] On
> Behalf Of Vern Klukas
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 2:04 PM
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>
> More likely the spider gears are worn inside crown gear carrier. My
> experience has been that the pinion & crown gear give no trouble,
> other than the earlier mentioned crown wheel bolts backing out and
> destroying the diff case ;-). But it is very good to know that you
> have a height gauge. Is it the dual purpose one? The manual shows
> three (rather, the 4 cyl manual, I assume the V8 is the same) tools,
> push fit, press fit and the aforementioned dual one.
>
> Yours
> Vern
> On 22-May-09, at 1:18 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
>
>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from
>> the loose
>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I
>> understand
>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will
>> eliminate it. I
>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon.
>>
>> AvMedSafe
>> Geff and Julie McCarthy
>> 677 NW Melinda Ave
>> Portland OR 97210
>> 503-241-8468
>> 503-799-3809 mobile
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
>> ] On
>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>>
>> Hi Lance,
>> If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I
>> suggest you
>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the
>> side that
>> comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come
>> loose, this
>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on
>> different cars,
>>
>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks
>> it and
>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the
>> heads of
>>
>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the
>> threads.
>>
>> Barry
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth
>>> of ABC
>>> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my
>>> rebuild
>>
>>> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for
>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential
>>> itself,
>>> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below]
>>>
>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history
>>> on the
>>
>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing
>>> out of
>>> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they
>>> then
>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the
>>> diff is
>>> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you
>>> get into
>>
>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear
>>> and next
>>
>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set
>>> and have
>>
>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means
>>> dropping
>>> the half shaft and taking it out".
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same
>>> thing
>>> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification
>>> about
>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Rovernet mailing list
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>>> no-mail:
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From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Sat May 23 13:44:23 2009
From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 03:14:23 +0930
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5B camper
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Hi all
A rare beast ;-)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/albertsbite/2495512522
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
From kkinard at att.net Sat May 23 14:21:45 2009
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 13:21:45 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5B camper
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Hi Dave,
This is a well known car in UK P5 club. I believe it has been heavily
modified in addition to the camper conversion. It has an SD1 engine and
a ZF22HP gearbox from a Sherpa V8 van. It is known as Wholly Roadworthy.
Roverly,
Kent K.
David Read wrote:
> Hi all
> A rare beast ;-)
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/albertsbite/2495512522
>
> Cheers
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> South Oz
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From irishrover1 at sympatico.ca Sat May 23 16:31:57 2009
From: irishrover1 at sympatico.ca (BEN RODGERS)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 17:31:57 -0300
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5B camper
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Hi Kent,etal
There is a P5 camper conversion featured in James L
Taylors book 'The Post War Rovers P4 and P5. its found on page 133.
Regards Ben
(irishrover)
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From vmitps at netspace.net.au Sat May 23 18:18:03 2009
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 08:18:03 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Spare P6 Differential help
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Rovers Always have lots of backlash.
I rate it as a design flaw.
PVS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 1:35 AM
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Spare P6 Differential help
>I have a spare P6 3500S diff, if needed. It has a welded case, but worked
> fine when I elected to replace it. I replaced it because of its "clunk"
> when
> engaging the transmission. The new one has the same clunk. Go figure. I
> would only expect a nominal fee for it, but postage will be daunting.
> (Portland, Oregon.)
>
> AvMedSafe
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On
> Behalf Of LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 4:25 PM
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Differential help
>
> Thanks to all who replied about my differential. I've just gotten it out
> without killing myself (note to Glen!!). I had replaced all of the zercs
> on
>
> the u-joints and lubricated all of them. None are frozen and none appear
> to
>
> have too much play. None of the crown wheel bolts are loose.
>
> Sooooooo, unless anyone has any other suggestions, I think the next move
> is
> to go with having the differential rebuilt. I will be contacting Ruth at
> ABC. Does anyone else have any ideas of contacts/sources for a
> differential
>
> rebuild kit for a '70 3500S differential.
>
> Thanks again for all of the help.
>
>
> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.
>
>
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>> which you are referring.
>>
>> Today's Topics:
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>> 1. SD1, TR8, 87 & up Range Rover heads (Nash4447 at cs.com)
>> 2. Re: Clunking differential (Geff McCarthy)
>> 3. Re: Clunking differential (Glen Wilson)
>> 4. Re: Clunking differential (Vern Klukas)
>> 5. Re: Clunking differential (Eric Russell)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:36:52 EDT
>> From: Nash4447 at cs.com
>> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD1, TR8, 87 & up Range Rover
>> heads
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
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>>
>> Fellas
>>
>> I have a nice pair of heads for the above applications should anyone be
>> interested. They should be hottanked and the valves ground, of course.
>> The
>> valves are fine so the only parts required would be new stem seals - no
>> big
>> deal.
>>
>> $40 for the pair plus shipping or local pickup fine. I am in the Los
>> Angeles area. They are aluminum as you know so the fedex ground shipping
>> cost
>> would not be obscene.
>>
>> Glenn
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>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:18:08 -0700
>> From: "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>> To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'"
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>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from the
>> loose
>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I understand
>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will eliminate
>> it.
>
>> I
>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon.
>>
>> AvMedSafe
>> Geff and Julie McCarthy
>> 677 NW Melinda Ave
>> Portland OR 97210
>> 503-241-8468
>> 503-799-3809 mobile
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>>
>> Hi Lance,
>> If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest
>> you
>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the side
>> that
>> comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come loose,
>> this
>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on different
>> cars,
>>
>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks it
>> and
>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the heads
>> of
>>
>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the
>> threads.
>>
>> Barry
>>
>>
>> >
>> > I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth of
>> > ABC
>> > gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my
>> > rebuild
>>
>> > I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for
>> > 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential
>> > itself,
>> > but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below]
>> >
>> > She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history on
>> > the
>>
>> > S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing out of
>> > the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they
>> > then
>> > put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the diff
>> > is
>> > the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you get
>> > into
>>
>> > the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear and
>> > next
>>
>> > thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set and
>> > have
>>
>> > a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means
>> > dropping
>> > the half shaft and taking it out".
>> >
>> > I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same
>> > thing
>> > as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification about
>> > what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated.
>> >
>> >
>> > Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S
>> >
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>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:50:03 -0400
>> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
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>> Geff McCarthy wrote:
>> > My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from the
>> > loose
>> > play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I
>> > understand
>> > the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will eliminate
>> > it. I
>> > have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon.
>> >
>> > AvMedSafe
>> > Geff and Julie McCarthy
>> > 677 NW Melinda Ave
>> > Portland OR 97210
>> > 503-241-8468
>> > 503-799-3809 mobile
>> >
>>
>> Geff,
>>
>> I think you should triage this situation and AvMedSafe that sucker down
>> to Colorado. Lance's life may depend on it, and an extra set of hands is
>> always useful when you get into that area around the P6 differential...
>>
>> Glen
>>
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
>> > [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
>
>> > On
>> > Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
>> > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
>> > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
>> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>> >
>> > Hi Lance,
>> > If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest
>> > you
>> > stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the side
>> > that
>> > comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come loose,
>> > this
>> > is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on different
>> > cars,
>> >
>> > if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks it
>> > and
>> > it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the
>> > heads of
>> >
>> > the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the
>> > threads.
>> >
>> > Barry
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth of
>> >> ABC
>> >> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my
>> >> rebuild
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for
>> >> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential
>> >> itself,
>> >> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below]
>> >>
>> >> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history on
>> >> the
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing out
>> >> of
>> >> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they
>> >> then
>> >> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the diff
>> >> is
>> >> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you get
>> >> into
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear and
>> >> next
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set and
>> >> have
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means
>> >> dropping
>> >> the half shaft and taking it out".
>> >>
>> >> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same
>> >> thing
>> >> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification about
>> >> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S
>> >>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:04:15 -0700
>> From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
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>> More likely the spider gears are worn inside crown gear carrier. My
>> experience has been that the pinion & crown gear give no trouble,
>> other than the earlier mentioned crown wheel bolts backing out and
>> destroying the diff case ;-). But it is very good to know that you
>> have a height gauge. Is it the dual purpose one? The manual shows
>> three (rather, the 4 cyl manual, I assume the V8 is the same) tools,
>> push fit, press fit and the aforementioned dual one.
>>
>> Yours
>> Vern
>> On 22-May-09, at 1:18 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
>>
>> > My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from
>> > the loose
>> > play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I
>> > understand
>> > the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will
>> > eliminate it. I
>> > have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon.
>> >
>> > AvMedSafe
>> > Geff and Julie McCarthy
>> > 677 NW Melinda Ave
>> > Portland OR 97210
>> > 503-241-8468
>> > 503-799-3809 mobile
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
>> > ] On
>> > Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
>> > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
>> > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
>> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>> >
>> > Hi Lance,
>> > If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I
>> > suggest you
>> > stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the
>> > side that
>> > comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come
>> > loose, this
>> > is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on
>> > different cars,
>> >
>> > if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks
>> > it and
>> > it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the
>> > heads of
>> >
>> > the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the
>> > threads.
>> >
>> > Barry
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth
>> >> of ABC
>> >> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my
>> >> rebuild
>> >
>> >> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for
>> >> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential
>> >> itself,
>> >> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below]
>> >>
>> >> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history
>> >> on the
>> >
>> >> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing
>> >> out of
>> >> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they
>> >> then
>> >> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the
>> >> diff is
>> >> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you
>> >> get into
>> >
>> >> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear
>> >> and next
>> >
>> >> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set
>> >> and have
>> >
>> >> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means
>> >> dropping
>> >> the half shaft and taking it out".
>> >>
>> >> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same
>> >> thing
>> >> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification
>> >> about
>> >> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S
>> >>
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>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:15:24 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
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>> Another reason for rear end "clunking" is a worn "U" joint on one of the
>> half-shafts or the propeller shaft. A person has 6 "U" joints to
>> consider.
>
>> That happened with me.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
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>> --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> > From: Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
>> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>> > To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'"
>> > <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>> > Received: Friday, May 22, 2009, 1:18 PM
>> > My "new" diff also clunks, but only
>> > when put into gear. It is from the loose
>> > play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg.
>> > If I understand
>> > the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly
>> > will eliminate it. I
>> > have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in
>> > Oregon.
>> >
>> > AvMedSafe
>> > Geff and Julie McCarthy
>> > 677 NW Melinda Ave
>> > Portland OR 97210
>> > 503-241-8468
>> > 503-799-3809 mobile
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
>> > [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
>> > On
>> > Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
>> > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
>> > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
>> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking
>> > differential
>> >
>> > Hi Lance,
>> > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? If you
>> > have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest you
>> > stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and
>> > remove the side that
>> > comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have
>> > come loose, this
>> > is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me
>> > on different cars,
>> >
>> > if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing
>> > and cracks it and
>> > it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by
>> > drilling the heads of
>> >
>> > the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread
>> > locker on the threads.
>> >
>> > Barry
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > > I would appreciate some help/deciphering some
>> > recommendations Ruth of ABC
>> > > gave me in sorting out my differential
>> > 'clunking'.? [As part of my rebuild
>> >
>> > > I replaced my old differential with a newer one which
>> > we checked for
>> > > 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the
>> > differential itself,
>> > > but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below]
>> > >
>> > > She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem
>> > from the history on the
>> >
>> > > S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes
>> > when backing out of
>> > > the garage and they just let the car roll close to a
>> > stop when they then
>> > > put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What
>> > happens in the diff is
>> > > the drive side (LH)? stub axles takes all the
>> > torque and once you get into
>> >
>> > > the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the
>> > drive gear and next
>> >
>> > > thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go
>> > the left set and have
>> >
>> > > a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It
>> > literally means dropping
>> > > the half shaft and taking it out".
>> > >
>> > > I'm not sure what she means by the "stub
>> > axle"????Is this the same thing
>> > > as the "half shaft"?.???If someone
>> > could give me a clarification about
>> > > what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Lance La Certe, Psy.D.,? '70? 3500S
>> > >
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From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Sun May 24 03:06:07 2009
From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 16:36:07 +0930
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Spare P6 Differential help
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Flaw? ..... FLAW??
Can't be, it must be a design feature!
Same as Land Rovers.
;-)
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
Netspace wrote:
> Rovers Always have lots of backlash.
> I rate it as a design flaw.
>
> PVS
<snip>
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sun May 24 14:46:13 2009
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 11:46:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was Spare P6 Differential help now Rover
design features :-J
Message-ID: <741650.23032.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Yes,........ feature...... how could we forget the Rover under carriage lubrication and anti-rust system or the concept that Rover should be given male dog names for their propensity to mark their territory .... design feature... :-)
Eric
Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada
Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/
Webmaster of a variety of sites from:
http://www.websrus.ca
--- On Sun, 5/24/09, David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> From: David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Spare P6 Differential help
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 12:06 AM
> Flaw? ..... FLAW??
> Can't be, it must be a design feature!
> Same as Land Rovers.
>
> ;-)
>
> Cheers
> Dave
> South Oz
>
>
> Netspace wrote:
> > Rovers Always have lots of backlash.
> > I rate it as a design flaw.
> >
> > PVS
>
> <snip>
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From phing at videotron.ca Mon May 25 00:11:10 2009
From: phing at videotron.ca (Patrick Hiron)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 00:11:10 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] NADA P6 How do I check instrument panel
printed circuit board ??
Message-ID: <000e01c9dcee$d5f2dc00$81d89400$@ca>
Hi
I removed my complete instrument panel to change the speedometer and
replace all the panel and warning lights . I must have screwed up the re
assembly because I got a neat little "Pfht "accompanied by a puff of smoke
from the clock end of the panel when I turned on the ignition .
After this minor set back I removed the panel and checked :
There is no obvious sign of damage- burnt wires ,scorch marks etc - any
where on the panel
All the fuses , none had blown and all are OK
All the new light bulbs are OK when checked individually in a bulb holder
connected across the battery
All the individual wires to the instruments , the panel ground connection
and the multiplugs are in their correct locations, and are firmly plugged
in .
The ammeter works , I have not checked the other instruments
The dash lights and rheostat work properly with the ignition off and on
The head light warning light works properly - when the ignition is OFF[ see
below ]
The flashing indicator warning lights flash properly.
The oil pressure warning light works
The clock works
However the brake and ignition warning lights don't work
The main beam warning light works properly with the ignition OFF .It comes
on when the ignition is turned ON and the lights are switched OFF
BUT it works properly with ignition ON and the head lights switched ON!!
My first thought is that I have blown the ballast resistor across the panel
light rheostat . this is in the right area for the observed puff of smoke
and could explain why there are no blown fuses ? Is this feasible ? If so
what is the spec for a replacement resistor ?
Next guess is a problem with the printed circuit board . I assume I would
need to pull the panel apart to be able to see and check the circuits . Much
of the panel is obscured by the instruments . Can the circuits be repaired
with a b lob of solder ??
Before I do any more damage
Is there any way of checking that the ignition warning light and brake
circuits are OK upstream of the panel warning lights IE is there a live feed
into the panel and the problem lies in the in the panel , or is the
problem elsewhere ??
May be the panel ground connection, a flimsy looking wire is broken ??
Time is of the essence since we have a local show next weekend and the dash
board is a disaster area I would appreciate any comments ASAP
Cheers
Patrick
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Mon May 25 05:35:28 2009
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 11:35:28 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: North American P5B Owners Free Offer
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It is a pity I do not have one!
Best regards, Gianluca.
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
Per conto di Kent Kinard
Inviato: sabato 23 maggio 2009 16.24
A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] North American P5B Owners Free Offer
Hi Netters,
If you own a P5B, either Saloon or Coupe, and live in North America, I
will send you a pair of genuine Rover P5B cufflinks if you will send me
a picture of your car and VIN. This offer is good for the first twelve
cars only and Dirk only gets one pair:-) I am betting that there aren't
twelve P5B owners in North America.
Bill Davis, who just recently joined the list, has a P5B Coupe _LHD_,
though he hasn't shared the details as yet.
Roverfreeofferly,
Kent K.
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Mon May 25 05:36:16 2009
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 11:36:16 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: P5B camper
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Dear friends, I've seen it.
I can' t say i like it very much, but, if it is an unique feature, i could agree.
Personally I had a very old Alfa Romeo camprer, probably the first mass produced in italy.
I bought it in 1992 more or less, I bought it from a friend who had previously bought it in 1976.
The camper was a four places, ome door Laveda roulotte mounted on an Alfa Romeo A 12 van with perkins diesel engine, wich shared partof the machanics with Giulia super.
It was sky blue, the only colour available.
Sky blue was, at that time, the colour of Laverda Roulottes and this was also the colour of alfa romeo vans used by Societ? autostrade.
This engine was also mounted on the Giulia Super diesel, an absolutely unsuccessful car produced in maybe 4500 ones, which made the fastest salloon of the world in his category a mule.
Another strange conversion, but a very good remembrance.
Best regards, hear you soon, Gianluca.
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Inviato: sabato 23 maggio 2009 20.22
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Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5B camper
Hi Dave,
This is a well known car in UK P5 club. I believe it has been heavily modified in addition to the camper conversion. It has an SD1 engine and a ZF22HP gearbox from a Sherpa V8 van. It is known as Wholly Roadworthy.
Roverly,
Kent K.
David Read wrote:
> Hi all
> A rare beast ;-)
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/albertsbite/2495512522
>
> Cheers
> Dave
> South Oz
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From geffandjulie at comcast.net Mon May 25 12:16:11 2009
From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 09:16:11 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
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I checked and under the rust is 605004. I would lend it to anyone needing if
for a rebuild.
AvMedSafe
Geff and Julie McCarthy
677 NW Melinda Ave
Portland OR 97210
503-241-8468
503-799-3809 mobile
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From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Vern Main
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 9:09 AM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
There should be a part number on it somewhere. The dual use one is
605004. The other two numbers are 600299 & 601998
Yours
Vern
Inkspot Type & Design
250 864 5619
Sent from my iPhone
On 23-May-09, at 8:32, "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net> wrote:
> Sorry, I don't know which it is. It is a huge, heavy steel cylinder!
>
> AvMedSafe
> Geff and Julie McCarthy
> 677 NW Melinda Ave
> Portland OR 97210
> 503-241-8468
> 503-799-3809 mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> ] On
> Behalf Of Vern Klukas
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 2:04 PM
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>
> More likely the spider gears are worn inside crown gear carrier. My
> experience has been that the pinion & crown gear give no trouble,
> other than the earlier mentioned crown wheel bolts backing out and
> destroying the diff case ;-). But it is very good to know that you
> have a height gauge. Is it the dual purpose one? The manual shows
> three (rather, the 4 cyl manual, I assume the V8 is the same) tools,
> push fit, press fit and the aforementioned dual one.
>
> Yours
> Vern
> On 22-May-09, at 1:18 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
>
>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from
>> the loose
>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I
>> understand
>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will
>> eliminate it. I
>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon.
>>
>> AvMedSafe
>> Geff and Julie McCarthy
>> 677 NW Melinda Ave
>> Portland OR 97210
>> 503-241-8468
>> 503-799-3809 mobile
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
>> ] On
>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>>
>> Hi Lance,
>> If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I
>> suggest you
>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the
>> side that
>> comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come
>> loose, this
>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on
>> different cars,
>>
>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks
>> it and
>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the
>> heads of
>>
>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the
>> threads.
>>
>> Barry
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth
>>> of ABC
>>> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my
>>> rebuild
>>
>>> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for
>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential
>>> itself,
>>> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below]
>>>
>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history
>>> on the
>>
>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing
>>> out of
>>> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they
>>> then
>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the
>>> diff is
>>> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you
>>> get into
>>
>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear
>>> and next
>>
>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set
>>> and have
>>
>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means
>>> dropping
>>> the half shaft and taking it out".
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same
>>> thing
>>> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification
>>> about
>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S
>>>
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From vern at inkspotco.com Mon May 25 12:37:13 2009
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 09:37:13 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
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Good to know.
Yours
Vern
On 25-May-09, at 9:16 AM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
> I checked and under the rust is 605004. I would lend it to anyone
> needing if
> for a rebuild.
>
> AvMedSafe
> Geff and Julie McCarthy
> 677 NW Melinda Ave
> Portland OR 97210
> 503-241-8468
> 503-799-3809 mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> ] On
> Behalf Of Vern Main
> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 9:09 AM
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>
> There should be a part number on it somewhere. The dual use one is
> 605004. The other two numbers are 600299 & 601998
>
> Yours
> Vern
>
> Inkspot Type & Design
> 250 864 5619
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 23-May-09, at 8:32, "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I don't know which it is. It is a huge, heavy steel cylinder!
>>
>> AvMedSafe
>> Geff and Julie McCarthy
>> 677 NW Melinda Ave
>> Portland OR 97210
>> 503-241-8468
>> 503-799-3809 mobile
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
>> ] On
>> Behalf Of Vern Klukas
>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 2:04 PM
>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>>
>> More likely the spider gears are worn inside crown gear carrier. My
>> experience has been that the pinion & crown gear give no trouble,
>> other than the earlier mentioned crown wheel bolts backing out and
>> destroying the diff case ;-). But it is very good to know that you
>> have a height gauge. Is it the dual purpose one? The manual shows
>> three (rather, the 4 cyl manual, I assume the V8 is the same) tools,
>> push fit, press fit and the aforementioned dual one.
>>
>> Yours
>> Vern
>> On 22-May-09, at 1:18 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
>>
>>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from
>>> the loose
>>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I
>>> understand
>>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will
>>> eliminate it. I
>>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon.
>>>
>>> AvMedSafe
>>> Geff and Julie McCarthy
>>> 677 NW Melinda Ave
>>> Portland OR 97210
>>> 503-241-8468
>>> 503-799-3809 mobile
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
>>> ] On
>>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery
>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM
>>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>>>
>>> Hi Lance,
>>> If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I
>>> suggest you
>>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the
>>> side that
>>> comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come
>>> loose, this
>>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on
>>> different cars,
>>>
>>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks
>>> it and
>>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the
>>> heads of
>>>
>>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the
>>> threads.
>>>
>>> Barry
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth
>>>> of ABC
>>>> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my
>>>> rebuild
>>>
>>>> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked
>>>> for
>>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential
>>>> itself,
>>>> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below]
>>>>
>>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history
>>>> on the
>>>
>>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing
>>>> out of
>>>> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they
>>>> then
>>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the
>>>> diff is
>>>> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you
>>>> get into
>>>
>>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear
>>>> and next
>>>
>>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set
>>>> and have
>>>
>>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means
>>>> dropping
>>>> the half shaft and taking it out".
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same
>>>> thing
>>>> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification
>>>> about
>>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Rovernet mailing list
>>>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca
>>>> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or
>>>> no-mail:
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>>>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
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>>>
>>>
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From sdibdin at hotmail.com Tue May 26 09:22:17 2009
From: sdibdin at hotmail.com (Hotmail)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 09:22:17 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Top link strengthening plate
In-Reply-To: <DD13C022-9FD1-4DBB-92B8-8D6DFA48C387@inkspotco.com>
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Hi All
I've been checking through the front suspension section of the Rover
manual for my 2000 TC and noticed that they have a strengthening plate
that mounts behind the inner top link mount and the top of the outer
mount. I've checked both sides of the car and apart from the holes on
the top of the outer mounts there is no evidence that they were
fitted. The holes have no evidence of ever being used and mounts would
need replacing or helicoils to make the holes servicable.
My question is: Were these actually fitted in production? In your
opinion are they required?
Thanks in advance,
Steven D
Steven Dibdin
Design Prototyping Manager
Smart Design
601 w26 St
Suite 1820
New York
NY 10001
eMail Steven.Dibdin at smartdesignworldwide.com
Cell: 862.684.1166
On May 25, 2009, at 12:37, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote:
> Good to know.
>
> Yours
> Vern
> On 25-May-09, at 9:16 AM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
>
>> I checked and under the rust is 605004. I would lend it to anyone
>> needing if
>> for a rebuild.
>>
>> AvMedSafe
>> Geff and Julie McCarthy
>> 677 NW Melinda Ave
>> Portland OR 97210
>> 503-241-8468
>> 503-799-3809 mobile
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
>> ] On
>> Behalf Of Vern Main
>> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 9:09 AM
>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>>
>> There should be a part number on it somewhere. The dual use one is
>> 605004. The other two numbers are 600299 & 601998
>>
>> Yours
>> Vern
>>
>> Inkspot Type & Design
>> 250 864 5619
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 23-May-09, at 8:32, "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, I don't know which it is. It is a huge, heavy steel cylinder!
>>>
>
From vern at inkspotco.com Tue May 26 14:16:08 2009
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 11:16:08 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Top link strengthening plate
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP1639150B603C13DB928906B0520@phx.gbl>
References: <COL111-DS6FBE0C8355E500D9A356583560@phx.gbl> <DD1EBD2E590D46E88B0D5044289AF732@ChloePC> <005301c9db1a$6d0de6b0$4729b410$@net> <E3FFB7A0-A567-47CE-955A-4DAB4BC4A340@inkspotco.com> <001901c9dbbb$a1c61390$e5523ab0$@net>
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Was only fitted to early cars and were dropped probably somewhere
around 1966-67. I have seen them on a couple of 1966 cars, the very
early (possibly prototype) TC I owned for a while and a SC.
Yours
Vern
On 26-May-09, at 6:22 AM, Hotmail wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I've been checking through the front suspension section of the Rover
> manual for my 2000 TC and noticed that they have a strengthening
> plate that mounts behind the inner top link mount and the top of the
> outer mount. I've checked both sides of the car and apart from the
> holes on the top of the outer mounts there is no evidence that they
> were fitted. The holes have no evidence of ever being used and
> mounts would need replacing or helicoils to make the holes servicable.
>
> My question is: Were these actually fitted in production? In your
> opinion are they required?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Steven D
>
> Steven Dibdin
> Design Prototyping Manager
> Smart Design
> 601 w26 St
> Suite 1820
> New York
> NY 10001
> eMail Steven.Dibdin at smartdesignworldwide.com
> Cell: 862.684.1166
>
> On May 25, 2009, at 12:37, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote:
>
>> Good to know.
>>
>> Yours
>> Vern
>> On 25-May-09, at 9:16 AM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
>>
>>> I checked and under the rust is 605004. I would lend it to anyone
>>> needing if
>>> for a rebuild.
>>>
>>> AvMedSafe
>>> Geff and Julie McCarthy
>>> 677 NW Melinda Ave
>>> Portland OR 97210
>>> 503-241-8468
>>> 503-799-3809 mobile
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
>>> ] On
>>> Behalf Of Vern Main
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 9:09 AM
>>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>>>
>>> There should be a part number on it somewhere. The dual use one is
>>> 605004. The other two numbers are 600299 & 601998
>>>
>>> Yours
>>> Vern
>>>
>>> Inkspot Type & Design
>>> 250 864 5619
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 23-May-09, at 8:32, "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry, I don't know which it is. It is a huge, heavy steel
>>>> cylinder!
>>>>
>>
>
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From sdibdin at hotmail.com Tue May 26 14:36:09 2009
From: sdibdin at hotmail.com (Steven Dibdin)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 18:36:09 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Top link strengthening plate
In-Reply-To: <D4CA512A-DBC3-4AA3-B6C2-787923906D78@inkspotco.com>
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<DD1EBD2E590D46E88B0D5044289AF732@ChloePC>
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<E3FFB7A0-A567-47CE-955A-4DAB4BC4A340@inkspotco.com>
<001901c9dbbb$a1c61390$e5523ab0$@net>
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Thanks Vern! I checked a few photos online of the front suspension set up and noticed they didn't have it either. Good to know.
Steven
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From geffandjulie at comcast.net Tue May 26 17:44:33 2009
From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 14:44:33 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Top link strengthening plate
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References: <COL111-DS6FBE0C8355E500D9A356583560@phx.gbl> <DD1EBD2E590D46E88B0D5044289AF732@ChloePC> <005301c9db1a$6d0de6b0$4729b410$@net> <E3FFB7A0-A567-47CE-955A-4DAB4BC4A340@inkspotco.com> <001901c9dbbb$a1c61390$e5523ab0$@net> <DD6CB520-321C-42EA-9449-ECEAD442E2AF@inkspotco.com> <003201c9dd54$1f72fa30$5e58ee90$@net> <DD13C022-9FD1-4DBB-92B8-8D6DFA48C387@inkspotco.com> <BLU0-SMTP1639150B603C13DB928906B0520@phx.gbl>
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I have a set of strengthener plates that I bought years ago, but never
installed. I understood that they were only useful if the car was used very
aggressively as perhaps in rally driving. I am not sure which suspension
location for which they are intended, but they are shaped to fit.
AvMedSafe
Geff and Julie McCarthy
677 NW Melinda Ave
Portland OR 97210
503-241-8468
503-799-3809 mobile
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Vern Klukas
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:16 AM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Top link strengthening plate
Was only fitted to early cars and were dropped probably somewhere
around 1966-67. I have seen them on a couple of 1966 cars, the very
early (possibly prototype) TC I owned for a while and a SC.
Yours
Vern
On 26-May-09, at 6:22 AM, Hotmail wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I've been checking through the front suspension section of the Rover
> manual for my 2000 TC and noticed that they have a strengthening
> plate that mounts behind the inner top link mount and the top of the
> outer mount. I've checked both sides of the car and apart from the
> holes on the top of the outer mounts there is no evidence that they
> were fitted. The holes have no evidence of ever being used and
> mounts would need replacing or helicoils to make the holes servicable.
>
> My question is: Were these actually fitted in production? In your
> opinion are they required?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Steven D
>
> Steven Dibdin
> Design Prototyping Manager
> Smart Design
> 601 w26 St
> Suite 1820
> New York
> NY 10001
> eMail Steven.Dibdin at smartdesignworldwide.com
> Cell: 862.684.1166
>
> On May 25, 2009, at 12:37, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote:
>
>> Good to know.
>>
>> Yours
>> Vern
>> On 25-May-09, at 9:16 AM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
>>
>>> I checked and under the rust is 605004. I would lend it to anyone
>>> needing if
>>> for a rebuild.
>>>
>>> AvMedSafe
>>> Geff and Julie McCarthy
>>> 677 NW Melinda Ave
>>> Portland OR 97210
>>> 503-241-8468
>>> 503-799-3809 mobile
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
>>> ] On
>>> Behalf Of Vern Main
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 9:09 AM
>>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>>>
>>> There should be a part number on it somewhere. The dual use one is
>>> 605004. The other two numbers are 600299 & 601998
>>>
>>> Yours
>>> Vern
>>>
>>> Inkspot Type & Design
>>> 250 864 5619
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 23-May-09, at 8:32, "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry, I don't know which it is. It is a huge, heavy steel
>>>> cylinder!
>>>>
>>
>
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From vern at inkspotco.com Tue May 26 17:50:44 2009
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 14:50:44 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Top link strengthening plate
In-Reply-To: <000c01c9de4b$2913b280$7b3b1780$@net>
References: <COL111-DS6FBE0C8355E500D9A356583560@phx.gbl> <DD1EBD2E590D46E88B0D5044289AF732@ChloePC> <005301c9db1a$6d0de6b0$4729b410$@net> <E3FFB7A0-A567-47CE-955A-4DAB4BC4A340@inkspotco.com> <001901c9dbbb$a1c61390$e5523ab0$@net> <DD6CB520-321C-42EA-9449-ECEAD442E2AF@inkspotco.com> <003201c9dd54$1f72fa30$5e58ee90$@net> <DD13C022-9FD1-4DBB-92B8-8D6DFA48C387@inkspotco.com> <BLU0-SMTP1639150B603C13DB928906B0520@phx.gbl>
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I think you have the stiffeners for the lower link of the front
suspension, not the bits Steven is talking about. Steven's question
was about some parts that were fitted to the first production cars and
then dropped in later production.
Yours
Vern
On 26-May-09, at 2:44 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
> I have a set of strengthener plates that I bought years ago, but never
> installed. I understood that they were only useful if the car was
> used very
> aggressively as perhaps in rally driving. I am not sure which
> suspension
> location for which they are intended, but they are shaped to fit.
>
> AvMedSafe
> Geff and Julie McCarthy
> 677 NW Melinda Ave
> Portland OR 97210
> 503-241-8468
> 503-799-3809 mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> ] On
> Behalf Of Vern Klukas
> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:16 AM
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Top link strengthening plate
>
> Was only fitted to early cars and were dropped probably somewhere
> around 1966-67. I have seen them on a couple of 1966 cars, the very
> early (possibly prototype) TC I owned for a while and a SC.
>
> Yours
> Vern
> On 26-May-09, at 6:22 AM, Hotmail wrote:
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> I've been checking through the front suspension section of the Rover
>> manual for my 2000 TC and noticed that they have a strengthening
>> plate that mounts behind the inner top link mount and the top of the
>> outer mount. I've checked both sides of the car and apart from the
>> holes on the top of the outer mounts there is no evidence that they
>> were fitted. The holes have no evidence of ever being used and
>> mounts would need replacing or helicoils to make the holes
>> servicable.
>>
>> My question is: Were these actually fitted in production? In your
>> opinion are they required?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Steven D
>>
>> Steven Dibdin
>> Design Prototyping Manager
>> Smart Design
>> 601 w26 St
>> Suite 1820
>> New York
>> NY 10001
>> eMail Steven.Dibdin at smartdesignworldwide.com
>> Cell: 862.684.1166
>>
>> On May 25, 2009, at 12:37, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Good to know.
>>>
>>> Yours
>>> Vern
>>> On 25-May-09, at 9:16 AM, Geff McCarthy wrote:
>>>
>>>> I checked and under the rust is 605004. I would lend it to anyone
>>>> needing if
>>>> for a rebuild.
>>>>
>>>> AvMedSafe
>>>> Geff and Julie McCarthy
>>>> 677 NW Melinda Ave
>>>> Portland OR 97210
>>>> 503-241-8468
>>>> 503-799-3809 mobile
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
>>>> ] On
>>>> Behalf Of Vern Main
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 9:09 AM
>>>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential
>>>>
>>>> There should be a part number on it somewhere. The dual use one is
>>>> 605004. The other two numbers are 600299 & 601998
>>>>
>>>> Yours
>>>> Vern
>>>>
>>>> Inkspot Type & Design
>>>> 250 864 5619
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On 23-May-09, at 8:32, "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, I don't know which it is. It is a huge, heavy steel
>>>>> cylinder!
>>>>>
>>>
>>
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From vern at inkspotco.com Thu May 28 01:02:08 2009
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 22:02:08 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Paging Ben Rodgers
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References: <60cf9fc10905061927y3cf22d0am9cd662a28402e13e@mail.gmail.com>
<60cf9fc10905102025ya8a6d04n4287d28707174de2@mail.gmail.com>
<BLU0-SMTP1844C7DC0E541CC3B0465395630@phx.gbl>
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This is a request for Ben to get a hold of me. I'm trying to deliver
your newest edition of the Roverview, and I keep get a bounce off your
e-mail address.
Yours
Vern
vern at inkspotco.com
On 11-May-09, at 4:17 AM, BEN RODGERS wrote:
> Hi Kevin
> The car doesn't look too bad in the photos, just a pity we
> are too far apart or I'd be interested in it. The 71 is a series 2
> and quite rare just over 200 were produced. It has a few nice
> features the early TC lacked. Same dash and gauges as the P6B and
> the spare wheel can be carried on the trunk lid. What condition and
> colour is the interior?, and what mileage? I have a TC Series Two.
> that originally came from Germany, if interested you can see photo
> on my web page listed below.
> Best luck in finding a buyer.
> Ben (irishrover)
> Visit our website and blog at
> www.irishroversbooks.com
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From twinklsun at yahoo.com Thu May 28 12:12:43 2009
From: twinklsun at yahoo.com (twinklsun)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 09:12:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Finding a new home for my 80
Message-ID: <428096.57779.qm@web50509.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Long time, guys.
I'm at a crossroads and it's time to consider giving my Rover a new home. Grad school is coming up and we have an abundance of stuff I don't want to have to move across the countryside. The car's more than just stuff, and the more I see her in the driveway the less I like the idea, but it's on the list. (We rolled her out two days ago for some sun and a wash. She's been garaged for the entire time she's been here.)
If there's anyone out there who would give her a good home and not kill her to feed a larger beast, I'm open to adopting her out.
I'm asking what I paid, $1500, and that includes the books and two bottles of neatsfoot oil for the leather.
Just drop me a line if you want more info.
Laine in Michigan.
From RoverP6 at gmx.de Fri May 29 10:07:05 2009
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 16:07:05 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian Rovernet
members
References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com>
Message-ID: <E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw>
Is "The Classic Rover Car Club of Tasmania " still alive?
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info
From cort_maryann at charter.net Fri May 29 13:50:38 2009
From: cort_maryann at charter.net (cort_maryann at charter.net)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 12:50:38 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Finding a new home for my 80
References: <428096.57779.qm@web50509.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003801c9e085$fda040e0$dff2834b@DELL5150>
Laine;
Is it a P4 80 ? If so I would like more info.
Thanks Cort
----- Original Message -----
From: "twinklsun" <twinklsun at yahoo.com>
To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 11:12 AM
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Finding a new home for my 80
>
> Long time, guys.
>
> I'm at a crossroads and it's time to consider giving my Rover a new home.
> Grad school is coming up and we have an abundance of stuff I don't want to
> have to move across the countryside. The car's more than just stuff, and
> the more I see her in the driveway the less I like the idea, but it's on
> the list. (We rolled her out two days ago for some sun and a wash. She's
> been garaged for the entire time she's been here.)
>
> If there's anyone out there who would give her a good home and not kill
> her to feed a larger beast, I'm open to adopting her out.
>
> I'm asking what I paid, $1500, and that includes the books and two bottles
> of neatsfoot oil for the leather.
>
> Just drop me a line if you want more info.
>
> Laine in Michigan.
>
>
>
>
>
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From vmitps at netspace.net.au Fri May 29 17:42:40 2009
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 07:42:40 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian
Rovernetmembers
In-Reply-To: <E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw>
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<E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw>
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I live in Tas and have never heard of it...
PVS
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Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 12:07 AM
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian
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> Is "The Classic Rover Car Club of Tasmania " still alive?
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>
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From wattsclassiccars at bigpond.com Sat May 30 02:53:07 2009
From: wattsclassiccars at bigpond.com (Ken Watts)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 16:53:07 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 36
References: <mailman.7.1243612814.23387.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
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Hi
The Classic Rover Car Club of Tasmania, as far as I know has not existed for
probably about 10 years.
Ken
Launceston Tasmania Australia
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>
> Long time, guys.
>
> I'm at a crossroads and it's time to consider giving my Rover a new home.
> Grad school is coming up and we have an abundance of stuff I don't want to
> have to move across the countryside. The car's more than just stuff, and
> the more I see her in the driveway the less I like the idea, but it's on
> the list. (We rolled her out two days ago for some sun and a wash. She's
> been garaged for the entire time she's been here.)
>
> If there's anyone out there who would give her a good home and not kill
> her to feed a larger beast, I'm open to adopting her out.
>
> I'm asking what I paid, $1500, and that includes the books and two bottles
> of neatsfoot oil for the leather.
>
> Just drop me a line if you want more info.
>
> Laine in Michigan.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 16:07:05 +0200
> From: <RoverP6 at gmx.de>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian Rovernet
> members
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
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> Is "The Classic Rover Car Club of Tasmania " still alive?
>
>
> Rudiger
> www.RoverP6.info
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>
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From RoverP6 at gmx.de Sat May 30 03:14:47 2009
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 09:14:47 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 36
References: <mailman.7.1243612814.23387.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
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Thanks for this info, Ken
Regards from Germany,
Rudiger
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Gesendet: Samstag, 30. Mai 2009 08:53
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> Hi
>
> The Classic Rover Car Club of Tasmania, as far as I know has not
> existed for probably about 10 years.
>
> Ken
>
> Launceston Tasmania Australia
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>> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 09:12:43 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: twinklsun <twinklsun at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Finding a new home for my 80
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>>
>> Long time, guys.
>>
>> I'm at a crossroads and it's time to consider giving my Rover a new
>> home. Grad school is coming up and we have an abundance of stuff I
>> don't want to have to move across the countryside. The car's more
>> than just stuff, and the more I see her in the driveway the less I
>> like the idea, but it's on the list. (We rolled her out two days
>> ago for some sun and a wash. She's been garaged for the entire time
>> she's been here.)
>>
>> If there's anyone out there who would give her a good home and not
>> kill her to feed a larger beast, I'm open to adopting her out.
>>
>> I'm asking what I paid, $1500, and that includes the books and two
>> bottles of neatsfoot oil for the leather.
>>
>> Just drop me a line if you want more info.
>>
>> Laine in Michigan.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 16:07:05 +0200
>> From: <RoverP6 at gmx.de>
>> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian
>> Rovernet
>> members
>> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
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>> Is "The Classic Rover Car Club of Tasmania " still alive?
>>
>>
>> Rudiger
>> www.RoverP6.info
>>
>>
>>
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From peterhut at melbpc.org.au Sat May 30 07:27:15 2009
From: peterhut at melbpc.org.au (Peter Huttemeier)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 21:27:15 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian Rovernet
members
In-Reply-To: <E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw>
References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com>
<E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw>
Message-ID: <2i52255ivgkgff1jvm35nvv96m269ll2da@4ax.com>
On Fri, 29 May 2009 16:07:05 +0200, you wrote:
>Is "The Classic Rover Car Club of Tasmania " still alive?
No Rudiger.
Many Rover owners in Tasmania are members of the RCCA, some may also
be members of other interstate Rover clubs, but I know we have around
12 members here at the moment including I.
In April I relocated to Tasmania from Melbourne, and now live on the
East Coast in a place called Little Swanport.
At that time I got myself a new beastie, a 2003 MGZT Tourer. It is of
course based on the Rover 75 Tourer, but is a little more of a
driver's car and a little better performing and much better handling.
I still have Rover 800 Sterling and the old 4 litre manual SE which
will go into storage for a few years while undergoing restoration
work.
I am planning (with the help of other local members) a Tasmanian Rove
for Easter 2011. There is a car ferry from Melbourne to northern
Tasmania, so there will be members coming from Victoria to get
together with our Tasmanian members for a drive around the island
state.
Cheers,
Peter Huttemeier
Webmaster
Rover Car Club of Australia Inc
http://www.rovercarclubaust.asn.au/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/
From peterhut at melbpc.org.au Sat May 30 07:28:08 2009
From: peterhut at melbpc.org.au (Peter Huttemeier)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 21:28:08 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian
Rovernetmembers
In-Reply-To: <4E94594F88BD40459521A0458A919476@Vista>
References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com>
<E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw>
<4E94594F88BD40459521A0458A919476@Vista>
Message-ID: <o06225ltukpn2gg77go4c319p5ouqebd97@4ax.com>
On Sat, 30 May 2009 07:42:40 +1000, you wrote:
>I live in Tas and have never heard of it...
>
>PVS
Where abouts? I am up on the East Coast at Little Swanport.
Cheers,
Peter H
From vmitps at netspace.net.au Sat May 30 07:40:42 2009
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 21:40:42 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our
AustralianRovernetmembers
In-Reply-To: <o06225ltukpn2gg77go4c319p5ouqebd97@4ax.com>
References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com><E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw><4E94594F88BD40459521A0458A919476@Vista>
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Message-ID: <875818E6F20643248A901D1FF840741B@Vista>
Hobart, as is Mr Risely with the blue 105.
Have also seen a decrepit 90, a beautiful 100, and a few immaculate P6Bs.
One other 2000.
At St Marys you have a white P5 with Ian Summers, and he has a TC/SF waiting
for restore if you are interested.
PVS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Huttemeier" <peterhut at melbpc.org.au>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our
AustralianRovernetmembers
> On Sat, 30 May 2009 07:42:40 +1000, you wrote:
>
>>I live in Tas and have never heard of it...
>>
>>PVS
>
> Where abouts? I am up on the East Coast at Little Swanport.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Peter H
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From giannid at bigpond.com Sat May 30 08:04:17 2009
From: giannid at bigpond.com (Gianni D'Ortenzio)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 22:04:17 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian Rovernet
members
In-Reply-To: <2i52255ivgkgff1jvm35nvv96m269ll2da@4ax.com>
References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com>
<E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw>
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Message-ID: <CD1EF5E5-1F8D-441C-9B7E-AC9CFA9EF91A@bigpond.com>
fantastic idea Peter
book me in, I am bound to have at least one running car by then!
hope it is all going well for you in Tassie
Cheers Gianni
On 30/05/2009, at 9:27 PM, Peter Huttemeier wrote:
> On Fri, 29 May 2009 16:07:05 +0200, you wrote:
>
>> Is "The Classic Rover Car Club of Tasmania " still alive?
>
> No Rudiger.
>
> Many Rover owners in Tasmania are members of the RCCA, some may also
> be members of other interstate Rover clubs, but I know we have around
> 12 members here at the moment including I.
>
> In April I relocated to Tasmania from Melbourne, and now live on the
> East Coast in a place called Little Swanport.
>
> At that time I got myself a new beastie, a 2003 MGZT Tourer. It is of
> course based on the Rover 75 Tourer, but is a little more of a
> driver's car and a little better performing and much better handling.
>
> I still have Rover 800 Sterling and the old 4 litre manual SE which
> will go into storage for a few years while undergoing restoration
> work.
>
> I am planning (with the help of other local members) a Tasmanian Rove
> for Easter 2011. There is a car ferry from Melbourne to northern
> Tasmania, so there will be members coming from Victoria to get
> together with our Tasmanian members for a drive around the island
> state.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Peter Huttemeier
> Webmaster
> Rover Car Club of Australia Inc
> http://www.rovercarclubaust.asn.au/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/
>
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From vmitps at netspace.net.au Sat May 30 08:07:01 2009
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 22:07:01 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian
Rovernetmembers
In-Reply-To: <CD1EF5E5-1F8D-441C-9B7E-AC9CFA9EF91A@bigpond.com>
References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com><E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw><2i52255ivgkgff1jvm35nvv96m269ll2da@4ax.com>
<CD1EF5E5-1F8D-441C-9B7E-AC9CFA9EF91A@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <151A6946841445CBBE4476F207C33464@Vista>
What happened to the manual OD P5...
PVS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gianni D'Ortenzio" <giannid at bigpond.com>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian
Rovernetmembers
> fantastic idea Peter
> book me in, I am bound to have at least one running car by then!
> hope it is all going well for you in Tassie
> Cheers Gianni
>
>
> On 30/05/2009, at 9:27 PM, Peter Huttemeier wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 29 May 2009 16:07:05 +0200, you wrote:
>>
>>> Is "The Classic Rover Car Club of Tasmania " still alive?
>>
>> No Rudiger.
>>
>> Many Rover owners in Tasmania are members of the RCCA, some may also
>> be members of other interstate Rover clubs, but I know we have around
>> 12 members here at the moment including I.
>>
>> In April I relocated to Tasmania from Melbourne, and now live on the
>> East Coast in a place called Little Swanport.
>>
>> At that time I got myself a new beastie, a 2003 MGZT Tourer. It is of
>> course based on the Rover 75 Tourer, but is a little more of a
>> driver's car and a little better performing and much better handling.
>>
>> I still have Rover 800 Sterling and the old 4 litre manual SE which
>> will go into storage for a few years while undergoing restoration
>> work.
>>
>> I am planning (with the help of other local members) a Tasmanian Rove
>> for Easter 2011. There is a car ferry from Melbourne to northern
>> Tasmania, so there will be members coming from Victoria to get
>> together with our Tasmanian members for a drive around the island
>> state.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Peter Huttemeier
>> Webmaster
>> Rover Car Club of Australia Inc
>> http://www.rovercarclubaust.asn.au/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
>
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From peterhut at melbpc.org.au Sat May 30 08:35:42 2009
From: peterhut at melbpc.org.au (Peter Huttemeier)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 22:35:42 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian Rovernet
members
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On Sat, 30 May 2009 22:04:17 +1000, you wrote:
>fantastic idea Peter
>book me in, I am bound to have at least one running car by then!
>hope it is all going well for you in Tassie
It has not been officially announced as a club event yet Gianni, but
the committee has signed off on it and asked me to get the
organisation started. A few other Tassie members have offered to help,
and we have in fact just booked the lawns of Parliament House in
Hobart for a formal display on Easter Saturday.
As I (or we including the navigatrix) are the holders of the
Navigation Trial trophy, I will also be organising a little trial for
some spirited competition!! Hehe.
The tour will have to encompass our Muirland Homestead, I think the
site of 20 or so Rovers (and almost Rovers) on the property with the
sheep, ducks and geese will just be wonderful. :-)
Cheers,
Peter H
From peterhut at melbpc.org.au Sat May 30 08:38:42 2009
From: peterhut at melbpc.org.au (Peter Huttemeier)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 22:38:42 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our
AustralianRovernetmembers
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On Sat, 30 May 2009 21:40:42 +1000, you wrote:
>Hobart, as is Mr Risely with the blue 105.
>Have also seen a decrepit 90, a beautiful 100, and a few immaculate P6Bs.
>One other 2000.
>At St Marys you have a white P5 with Ian Summers, and he has a TC/SF waiting
>for restore if you are interested.
I think I will have my hands full with one restorer thanks!! :-) But
always happy to meet any Rover owners in this part of the country.
If you are coming up this way give me a buzz, and drop in.
Cheers,
Peter H
From giannid at bigpond.com Sat May 30 19:24:17 2009
From: giannid at bigpond.com (Gianni D'Ortenzio)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:24:17 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian Rovernet
members
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sounds even better now Peter
looking forward to it even more now
Cheers Gianni
Gianni D'Ortenzio
1948 P3 4 light
1949 P3 6 light
1969 P5BC
1971 P6B
2004 Landrover Defender
On 30/05/2009, at 10:35 PM, Peter Huttemeier wrote:
> On Sat, 30 May 2009 22:04:17 +1000, you wrote:
>
>> fantastic idea Peter
>> book me in, I am bound to have at least one running car by then!
>> hope it is all going well for you in Tassie
>
>
> It has not been officially announced as a club event yet Gianni, but
> the committee has signed off on it and asked me to get the
> organisation started. A few other Tassie members have offered to help,
> and we have in fact just booked the lawns of Parliament House in
> Hobart for a formal display on Easter Saturday.
>
> As I (or we including the navigatrix) are the holders of the
> Navigation Trial trophy, I will also be organising a little trial for
> some spirited competition!! Hehe.
>
> The tour will have to encompass our Muirland Homestead, I think the
> site of 20 or so Rovers (and almost Rovers) on the property with the
> sheep, ducks and geese will just be wonderful. :-)
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Peter H
>
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From giannid at bigpond.com Sat May 30 19:32:50 2009
From: giannid at bigpond.com (Gianni D'Ortenzio)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:32:50 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian
Rovernetmembers
In-Reply-To: <151A6946841445CBBE4476F207C33464@Vista>
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long story...
local fellow lusted after it and kept annoying me about selling it to
him
one moment of weakness (with a pile of bills in front of me... it is
really expensive having country kids living in Melbourne) and an offer
of twice what it owed me and he took it off my hands and has proceeded
to run it into the ground! I can't bear to see it about town, it is
falling apart and he prides himself on running it without maintenance
and then crowing about how long it goes for without putting a spanner
to it. In fairness he has had a P5 as his daily drive for more than 30
years and loves them but not in a classical caring way!
when $ improved, I bought the P5BC and have since spent buckets more
than the o/d manual P5mkII coupe cost me, converting it to manual
first and then re-engine and re-brake, re-suspension, re-steering
etc... oh yes I almost forgot...regretting it!
Cheers Gianni
Gianni D'Ortenzio
1948 P3 4 light
1949 P3 6 light
1969 P5BC
1971 P6B
2004 Landrover Defender
On 30/05/2009, at 10:07 PM, Netspace wrote:
> What happened to the manual OD P5...
>
> PVS
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gianni D'Ortenzio" <giannid at bigpond.com
> >
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca
> >
> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 10:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian
> Rovernetmembers
>
>
>> fantastic idea Peter
>> book me in, I am bound to have at least one running car by then!
>> hope it is all going well for you in Tassie
>> Cheers Gianni
>>
>>
>> On 30/05/2009, at 9:27 PM, Peter Huttemeier wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 29 May 2009 16:07:05 +0200, you wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is "The Classic Rover Car Club of Tasmania " still alive?
>>>
>>> No Rudiger.
>>>
>>> Many Rover owners in Tasmania are members of the RCCA, some may also
>>> be members of other interstate Rover clubs, but I know we have
>>> around
>>> 12 members here at the moment including I.
>>>
>>> In April I relocated to Tasmania from Melbourne, and now live on the
>>> East Coast in a place called Little Swanport.
>>>
>>> At that time I got myself a new beastie, a 2003 MGZT Tourer. It is
>>> of
>>> course based on the Rover 75 Tourer, but is a little more of a
>>> driver's car and a little better performing and much better
>>> handling.
>>>
>>> I still have Rover 800 Sterling and the old 4 litre manual SE which
>>> will go into storage for a few years while undergoing restoration
>>> work.
>>>
>>> I am planning (with the help of other local members) a Tasmanian
>>> Rove
>>> for Easter 2011. There is a car ferry from Melbourne to northern
>>> Tasmania, so there will be members coming from Victoria to get
>>> together with our Tasmanian members for a drive around the island
>>> state.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Peter Huttemeier
>>> Webmaster
>>> Rover Car Club of Australia Inc
>>> http://www.rovercarclubaust.asn.au/
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/
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From giannid at bigpond.com Sat May 30 19:41:27 2009
From: giannid at bigpond.com (Gianni D'Ortenzio)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:41:27 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 coupe rear window trim
In-Reply-To: <151A6946841445CBBE4476F207C33464@Vista>
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I have to replace the trim on my rear window as it fell off at high
speed and disappeared!
it had been put back on with a new rubber but instead of clips and
proper fixings there was a pile of glue and mastic!
have sourced new trim and made the necessary little bolts to hold the
trim on to the C pillar
the manual is silent on the type of clips needed for the coupe, only
illustrating those for the saloon
are they the same?
how do you go about fitting the trim?
I looked at it and it seems that nothing fits together easily
can the right clips be sources for the coupe if they are different?
have lots of saloon fittings but I can't seem to make them work
Cheers Gianni
Gianni D'Ortenzio
1948 P3 4 light
1949 P3 6 light
1969 P5BC
1971 P6B
2004 Landrover Defender
From MarkCoorparoo at aol.com Sat May 30 22:51:36 2009
From: MarkCoorparoo at aol.com (MarkCoorparoo at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 22:51:36 EDT
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian Rovernet
members
Message-ID: <ce8.5548a435.37534ab8@aol.com>
Hi All,
Great idea. How about doing it around Tassie Targa time, One
day I will Get down there for that, combining it with a Rove would be
wonderful.
Trying to get enough things done so that I can get up to the "Cootha
Classic" this afternoon. There was a P6b running at the last Speed on Tweed.
Would like to see that on Mt. Cootha.
Regards,
MWJ.
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From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Sat May 30 23:20:42 2009
From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 03:20:42 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] British Car Week
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For all who do not know or have not heard.............Next week......June1-8 is British Car Week...........An event worldwide in which you are encouraged to show and drive your British car to promote British car awareness to the public..........More information and a greater description is available at britishcarweek.org........A great way to promote Rovers (and others marques) to more of the public.............How many of you have been asked...........What is it.....Who makes it.............Lets get those Rovers out and drive them
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From jaguru at bellsouth.net Sun May 31 15:39:30 2009
From: jaguru at bellsouth.net (James Dean)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 12:39:30 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S AC system
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I need a 3500S air conditioning system. If anyone has all or parts of a system, please contact me offline with details. Thank you, James Dean, Ft. Lauderdale jaguru at bellsouth.net Phone cell 954 524 7278, toll free 1 877 524 8787. Thank you. In the US or outside the US is fine.
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Hi All,
Great idea. How about doing it around Tassie Targa time, One day I will Get down there for that, combining it with a Rove would be wonderful.
Trying to get enough things done so that I can get up to the "Cootha Classic" this afternoon. There was a P6b running at the last Speed on Tweed. Would like to see that on Mt. Cootha.
Regards,
MWJ.
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