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From vmitps at netspace.net.au Sun Mar 1 00:05:07 2009
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:05:07 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Timing - 3500S
In-Reply-To: <COL114-W687071D013AEC6EC40C4C89EA80@phx.gbl>
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That may mean your carbs are in better condition than on the TC.
I have found SUs like a rich idle, but due to spindle air leaks are usually
lean.
Hence stalling under brakes.
(for the TC) Emery the needle in a drill, take it down in the last 1/8" by 1
thou all round.
PVS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian McDonald" <adrian.mcdonald at live.com>
To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Timing - 3500S
All
While I started messing around with the carburettors and timing a few weeks
ago, I was bemused by an intermittent fuel starvation problem, unfortunately
diagnosed some time after the initial meddling commenced. All the time I was
fiddling with the timing and mixture, I had a big lump of crud stuck in the
fuel supply line to the pump. I discovered this artifact when on (another)
test run and the thing slowed to a standstill. A coathanger up the pipe,
administered at the side of the road soon restored priper flow and within an
hour or so everything was fine again. I used the colortune to adjust the
mixture down from very rich, with a bright orange color to just on the
borderline blue. But when the engine is slowly opened up the color remains
blue. That worked for my 2000TC nicely, but I think it is easier for some
reason to see the color change with mixture adjustment on that motor. I
still can't really tell when it is too weak, hence I start at the rich end
and work down. Good thing is that my fuel problem led me to install new plug
leads, disassemble the carbs and clean them, install new fuel filters, and
remove a bunch of crappy old vacuum hose so I came out ahead...
Thanks to all for help from the bleachers.
Adrian
Now moved on to bodywork "repairs"
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From invite+yato060c at facebookmail.com Sun Mar 1 21:53:50 2009
From: invite+yato060c at facebookmail.com (Gordon Harrower)
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:53:50 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Check out my Facebook profile
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Hi The Original,
I set up a Facebook profile where I can post my pictures, videos and events and I want to add you as a friend so you can see it. First, you need to join Facebook! Once you join, you can also create your own profile.
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From gharrower200 at gmail.com Sun Mar 1 23:14:59 2009
From: gharrower200 at gmail.com (Gordon Harrower)
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 23:14:59 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Mistake--not Rover-related
Message-ID: <a8e2d8ce0903012014s3796dd14v116fc197692533f7@mail.gmail.com>
You all will accurately consider me a dope. I apologize for the Facebook
message. A little knowledge is, indeed, a dangerous thing. Please ignore
the message.
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From RoverP6 at gmx.de Tue Mar 3 06:06:21 2009
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:06:21 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Italian Rover P6 3500 S
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Message-ID: <7DC7577C2E50426F93CC43BD7F1ADD10@rw>
http://www.autoscout24.de/Details.aspx?id=bfzpptbuifyi
Very rare in Italy, I guess
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info
From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Tue Mar 3 06:15:22 2009
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:15:22 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Italian Rover P6 3500 S
In-Reply-To: <7DC7577C2E50426F93CC43BD7F1ADD10@rw>
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<7DC7577C2E50426F93CC43BD7F1ADD10@rw>
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Not so rare, but for a car which has been sitting for a long time the price could be quite high.
Then, are we sure of the low mileage?
This could be a reason for paying it 3500 euros, baut after a careful check.
I sold a 3500 S Mexico Brown for a symbolic price, but it was a parts car - I tought - and I never tried to turn the engine up.
The mechanic told me it was not seized and after an accurate, especially electric, clean, it turned up immediately.
Now he's repairing it, probably there's a blown head gasket, but he's able to repair it on his own and he told me that it is only a bit blown.
That's what happens!!
Ciao, gianluca.
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di RoverP6 at gmx.de
Inviato: marted? 3 marzo 2009 12.06
A: britcarnut at yahoo.com; The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Italian Rover P6 3500 S
http://www.autoscout24.de/Details.aspx?id=bfzpptbuifyi
Very rare in Italy, I guess
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Tue Mar 3 06:16:25 2009
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:16:25 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Italian Rover P6 2000 TC with mounted
LPG
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<7DC7577C2E50426F93CC43BD7F1ADD10@rw>
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http://cgi.ebay.it/ROVER-2000-tc_W0QQitemZ130290150376QQcmdZViewItemQQpt
ZAutomobile_IT?hash=item130290150376&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3
A758%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1309
Rover p6 2000 TC, with LPG
This is very rare by us, never seen one with LPG.
Best regards, gianluca.
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Tue Mar 3 10:24:20 2009
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:24:20 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: R: Italian Rover SD1 2.6
In-Reply-To: <AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A01ABDB9D@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel>
References: <228765.27551.qm@web36206.mail.mud.yahoo.com><7DC7577C2E50426F93CC43BD7F1ADD10@rw>
<AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A01ABDB9D@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel>
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http://www.secondamano.it/iad/car/object?adId=5782946&sid=xz0abcVDKMm787
288&pos=null&tot=null
Rover sd1 2.6
This is also very rare by us, more common was 2300 and also 3500.
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Tue Mar 3 12:07:43 2009
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 18:07:43 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover p6 on facebook
In-Reply-To: <AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A01ABDEAE@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel>
References: <228765.27551.qm@web36206.mail.mud.yahoo.com><7DC7577C2E50426F93CC43BD7F1ADD10@rw><AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A01ABDB9D@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel>
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http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5300362122#/group.php?gid=53003621
22
If someone is interested, there is this group and now I'm a member.
It would be beautiful if we all decided to take part also to this other
group.
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From gharrower200 at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 12:10:59 2009
From: gharrower200 at gmail.com (Gordon Harrower)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:10:59 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover p6 on facebook
In-Reply-To: <AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A01ABE009@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel>
References: <228765.27551.qm@web36206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<7DC7577C2E50426F93CC43BD7F1ADD10@rw>
<AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A01ABDB9D@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel>
<AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A01ABDEAE@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel>
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Be sure to add the 22 to Gianluca's link, or you'll wind up on my page,
which is pretty boring.
Gordon.
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:07 PM, <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com> wrote:
>
> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5300362122#/group.php?gid=53003621
> 22
>
> If someone is interested, there is this group and now I'm a member.
>
> It would be beautiful if we all decided to take part also to this other
> group.
>
> Best regards, Gianluca.
>
>
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Tue Mar 3 12:14:53 2009
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 18:14:53 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: R: Rover p6 on facebook
In-Reply-To: <a8e2d8ce0903030910j2c64d95cwa50df49fae427c9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <228765.27551.qm@web36206.mail.mud.yahoo.com><7DC7577C2E50426F93CC43BD7F1ADD10@rw><AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A01ABDB9D@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel><AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A01ABDEAE@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel><AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A01ABE009@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel>
<a8e2d8ce0903030910j2c64d95cwa50df49fae427c9@mail.gmail.com>
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Excuse me, which 22?
Ciao, gianluca.
________________________________
Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Gordon Harrower
Inviato: marted? 3 marzo 2009 18.11
A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover p6 on facebook
Be sure to add the 22 to Gianluca's link, or you'll wind up on my page, which is pretty boring.
Gordon.
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:07 PM, <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com> wrote:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5300362122#/group.php?gid=53003621
22
If someone is interested, there is this group and now I'm a member.
It would be beautiful if we all decided to take part also to this other
group.
Best regards, Gianluca.
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From gharrower200 at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 15:41:49 2009
From: gharrower200 at gmail.com (Gordon Harrower)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:41:49 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: R: Rover p6 on facebook
In-Reply-To: <AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A01ABE019@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel>
References: <228765.27551.qm@web36206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<7DC7577C2E50426F93CC43BD7F1ADD10@rw>
<AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A01ABDB9D@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel>
<AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A01ABDEAE@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel>
<AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A01ABE009@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel>
<a8e2d8ce0903030910j2c64d95cwa50df49fae427c9@mail.gmail.com>
<AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A01ABE019@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel>
Message-ID: <a8e2d8ce0903031241i606af1d9v5d8d46c9103a04c6@mail.gmail.com>
In the message I got, the last two digits of the link were on a separate
line and weren't included in the clickable part.
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:14 PM, <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com> wrote:
> Excuse me, which 22?
>
> Ciao, gianluca.
>
> ------------------------------
> *Da:* rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] *Per
> conto di *Gordon Harrower
> *Inviato:* marted? 3 marzo 2009 18.11
> *A:* The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> *Oggetto:* Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover p6 on facebook
>
> Be sure to add the 22 to Gianluca's link, or you'll wind up on my page,
> which is pretty boring.
>
> Gordon.
>
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:07 PM, <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5300362122#/group.php?gid=53003621
>> 22
>>
>> If someone is interested, there is this group and now I'm a member.
>>
>> It would be beautiful if we all decided to take part also to this other
>> group.
>>
>> Best regards, Gianluca.
>>
>>
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From roverman2 at verizon.net Wed Mar 4 13:31:45 2009
From: roverman2 at verizon.net (Dermot Harvey)
Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:31:45 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Italian Rover P6 3500 S
In-Reply-To: <AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A01ABDB94@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel>
References: <228765.27551.qm@web36206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<7DC7577C2E50426F93CC43BD7F1ADD10@rw>
<AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A01ABDB94@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel>
Message-ID: <4B32A6EB-E219-4032-9E46-0CFE6B99F3CE@verizon.net>
I remember seeing a brown 3500S in an underground garage in Rome many
years ago. It was very dusty and looked as though it had been there
for a long time.
I hope it got rescued!
Dermot Harvey
On Mar 3, 2009, at 6:15 AM, <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com>
<gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com> wrote:
> Not so rare, but for a car which has been sitting for a long time
> the price could be quite high.
> Then, are we sure of the low mileage?
>
> This could be a reason for paying it 3500 euros, baut after a
> careful check.
>
> I sold a 3500 S Mexico Brown for a symbolic price, but it was a
> parts car - I tought - and I never tried to turn the engine up.
> The mechanic told me it was not seized and after an accurate,
> especially electric, clean, it turned up immediately.
>
> Now he's repairing it, probably there's a blown head gasket, but
> he's able to repair it on his own and he told me that it is only a
> bit blown.
>
> That's what happens!!
>
> Ciao, gianluca.
>
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-
> bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di RoverP6 at gmx.de
> Inviato: marted? 3 marzo 2009 12.06
> A: britcarnut at yahoo.com; The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Italian Rover P6 3500 S
>
>
> http://www.autoscout24.de/Details.aspx?id=bfzpptbuifyi
>
> Very rare in Italy, I guess
>
> Rudiger
> www.RoverP6.info
>
>
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Thu Mar 5 09:27:38 2009
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:27:38 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: R: Italian Rover P6 3500 S
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Where was it?
I could have a llk!
Best regards, gianluca.
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Dermot Harvey
Inviato: mercoled? 4 marzo 2009 19.32
A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Italian Rover P6 3500 S
I remember seeing a brown 3500S in an underground garage in Rome many years ago. It was very dusty and looked as though it had been there for a long time.
I hope it got rescued!
Dermot Harvey
On Mar 3, 2009, at 6:15 AM, <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com> <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com> wrote:
> Not so rare, but for a car which has been sitting for a long time the
> price could be quite high.
> Then, are we sure of the low mileage?
>
> This could be a reason for paying it 3500 euros, baut after a careful
> check.
>
> I sold a 3500 S Mexico Brown for a symbolic price, but it was a parts
> car - I tought - and I never tried to turn the engine up.
> The mechanic told me it was not seized and after an accurate,
> especially electric, clean, it turned up immediately.
>
> Now he's repairing it, probably there's a blown head gasket, but he's
> able to repair it on his own and he told me that it is only a bit
> blown.
>
> That's what happens!!
>
> Ciao, gianluca.
>
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-
> bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di RoverP6 at gmx.de
> Inviato: marted? 3 marzo 2009 12.06
> A: britcarnut at yahoo.com; The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Italian Rover P6 3500 S
>
>
> http://www.autoscout24.de/Details.aspx?id=bfzpptbuifyi
>
> Very rare in Italy, I guess
>
> Rudiger
> www.RoverP6.info
>
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From sdibdin at hotmail.com Thu Mar 5 11:02:08 2009
From: sdibdin at hotmail.com (Hotmail)
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:02:08 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT- orphan cars
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Off topic, but Dermot's posting reminded me of an underground car park
I'd sometimes use in Central London. There were a few interesting
cars, including a very dusty DB4 with wire wheels. Under a dust cover
was something Itlanian that obviously hadn't gone anywhere for years.
Oh for a low loader!
Steven
Steven Dibdin
Design Prototyping Manager
Smart Design
601 w26 St
Suite 1820
New York
NY 10001
eMail Steven.Dibdin at smartdesignworldwide.com
Cell: 862.684.1166
On Mar 4, 2009, at 10:31, Dermot Harvey <roverman2 at verizon.net> wrote:
> I remember seeing a brown 3500S in an underground garage in Rome
> many years ago. It was very dusty and looked as though it had been
> there for a long time.
> I hope it got rescued!
>
> Dermot Harvey
>
> On Mar 3, 2009, at 6:15 AM, <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com> <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Not so rare, but for a car which has been sitting for a long time
>> the price could be quite high.
>> Then, are we sure of the low mileage?
>>
>> This could be a reason for paying it 3500 euros, baut after a
>> careful check.
>>
>> I sold a 3500 S Mexico Brown for a symbolic price, but it was a
>> parts car - I tought - and I never tried to turn the engine up.
>> The mechanic told me it was not seized and after an accurate,
>> especially electric, clean, it turned up immediately.
>>
>> Now he's repairing it, probably there's a blown head gasket, but
>> he's able to repair it on his own and he told me that it is only a
>> bit blown.
>>
>> That's what happens!!
>>
>> Ciao, gianluca.
>>
>>
>> -----Messaggio originale-----
>> Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-
>> bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di RoverP6 at gmx.de
>> Inviato: marted? 3 marzo 2009 12.06
>> A: britcarnut at yahoo.com; The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
>> Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Italian Rover P6 3500 S
>>
>>
>> http://www.autoscout24.de/Details.aspx?id=bfzpptbuifyi
>>
>> Very rare in Italy, I guess
>>
>> Rudiger
>> www.RoverP6.info
>>
>>
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Thu Mar 5 12:00:10 2009
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 18:00:10 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: OT- orphan cars
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In Udine, more or less 20 years ago, in the greyhound station there was the rover dealer with a underground garage.
Alsop there there were some interesting cars, for example a mercedes 220 in very good conditions of the late sixties, not the diesel one I mean, and some rovers.
I remmember a p5 which was later sold, and some mini 90.
This was the italian Mini, a national cat produced by Innocenti , wghich was very popular at that time and now very rare.
I saw one of these sonme days ago.
http://www.pagine70.com/vmnews/wmview.php?ArtID=578
Have a llok at this link.
Best regards, gianluca.
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Hotmail
Inviato: gioved? 5 marzo 2009 17.02
A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Cc: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT- orphan cars
Off topic, but Dermot's posting reminded me of an underground car park I'd sometimes use in Central London. There were a few interesting cars, including a very dusty DB4 with wire wheels. Under a dust cover was something Itlanian that obviously hadn't gone anywhere for years.
Oh for a low loader!
Steven
Steven Dibdin
Design Prototyping Manager
Smart Design
601 w26 St
Suite 1820
New York
NY 10001
eMail Steven.Dibdin at smartdesignworldwide.com
Cell: 862.684.1166
On Mar 4, 2009, at 10:31, Dermot Harvey <roverman2 at verizon.net> wrote:
> I remember seeing a brown 3500S in an underground garage in Rome many
> years ago. It was very dusty and looked as though it had been there
> for a long time.
> I hope it got rescued!
>
> Dermot Harvey
>
> On Mar 3, 2009, at 6:15 AM, <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com>
> <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Not so rare, but for a car which has been sitting for a long time the
>> price could be quite high.
>> Then, are we sure of the low mileage?
>>
>> This could be a reason for paying it 3500 euros, baut after a careful
>> check.
>>
>> I sold a 3500 S Mexico Brown for a symbolic price, but it was a parts
>> car - I tought - and I never tried to turn the engine up.
>> The mechanic told me it was not seized and after an accurate,
>> especially electric, clean, it turned up immediately.
>>
>> Now he's repairing it, probably there's a blown head gasket, but he's
>> able to repair it on his own and he told me that it is only a bit
>> blown.
>>
>> That's what happens!!
>>
>> Ciao, gianluca.
>>
>>
>> -----Messaggio originale-----
>> Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-
>> bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di RoverP6 at gmx.de
>> Inviato: marted? 3 marzo 2009 12.06
>> A: britcarnut at yahoo.com; The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
>> Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Italian Rover P6 3500 S
>>
>>
>> http://www.autoscout24.de/Details.aspx?id=bfzpptbuifyi
>>
>> Very rare in Italy, I guess
>>
>> Rudiger
>> www.RoverP6.info
>>
>>
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From wcpennington at juno.com Fri Mar 6 15:19:17 2009
From: wcpennington at juno.com (Connie and Joe)
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:19:17 GMT
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Need a little assistance
Message-ID: <20090306.141917.23682.0@webmail22.vgs.untd.com>
Ok....I am at my wits end!!! I have tried everything I know to change my email address from wcpennington at juno.com to wcpennington at torchlake.com Can someone please help me.
Thanks,
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From vern at inkspotco.com Fri Mar 6 15:30:27 2009
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 12:30:27 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Need a little assistance
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HI Joe
You may have to wit for Russell to do that. He is currently away in a
warm clime on vacation, I believe
Yours
Vern
On 6-Mar-09, at 12:19 PM, Connie and Joe wrote:
> Ok....I am at my wits end!!! I have tried everything I know to
> change my email address from wcpennington at juno.com to wcpennington at torchlake.com
> Can someone please help me.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Pennington
>
>
>
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Fri Mar 6 16:10:01 2009
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:10:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Need a little assistance
In-Reply-To: <DC211AFD-13A0-4615-93E3-9782D809E07F@inkspotco.com>
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OK, Joe.
I gave it a shot.
Let me know if it works.
Eric
Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada
Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/
Webmaster of a variety of sites from:
http://www.websrus.ca
--- On Fri, 3/6/09, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote:
> From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Need a little assistance
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 12:30 PM
> HI Joe
>
> You may have to wit for Russell to do that. He is currently
> away in a warm clime on vacation, I believe
>
> Yours
> Vern
> On 6-Mar-09, at 12:19 PM, Connie and Joe wrote:
>
> > Ok....I am at my wits end!!! I have tried everything
> I know to change my email address from wcpennington at juno.com
> to wcpennington at torchlake.com Can someone please help me.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Joe Pennington
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From MarkCoorparoo at aol.com Mon Mar 9 09:45:58 2009
From: MarkCoorparoo at aol.com (MarkCoorparoo at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 09:45:58 EDT
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fwd: SPECIAL ROVERNET - BUSHFIRE APPEAL
Message-ID: <c18.4f121936.36e67796@aol.com>
Hi All.
It has been a bit tough lately down in these parts.
As PeterHutt sends in BruceRover, we have lost friends from Roves. There
are over 200 dead now from " that Saturday Night". Meanwhile here in Qld,
today, we have a Cat 5 cyclone (Hurricane - Typhoon ) running down the Great
Barrier Reef. I am nervous. I can handle windy weather, flooding but I have
problems with incinaration. The smell of burnt people, looses me..
Peter and all, all around the world, the Fire is a mongel..
We are gambling in Qld tonight that Cyclone Hamish will nick off into the
middle of the south Coral Sea and blow himself away. If Hamish comes ashore
he will wreck a lot of houses and boats. If he turns around to the west at Wide
Bay and then goes South a bit, He will fill our Dams for Ten Years. Some
houses will get wrecked, hopefully everyone survives. Hamish has been Cat 5. He
is a worry. The Big Easy Copped that. there is already a Trawler missing in the
Swains Reefs, one of the most difficult places to navigate in the world.
Great Fishing. Nowhere for Storm Safety. Lee Marvin has been in there.
Tonight, in SE Queensland we are worried about getting slapped around by
a big cyclone. It is less than 250 miles away at the moment, it was cat. 5 but
now is headed out into the the Tasman Sea, we hope..
BruceRover and PeterHutt, I have sent some dough south via Toll, RedCross a
nd TWU. I am hoping that a little bit will go North for the Floods and that
Red Cross won't muck around like they usually do. We have got $200M thrown into
the kitty, that has got to fix a few things. Just had an old mate on the
phone for a while, burnt out Crashing out, how do you fix Marysville ? That is
just out past Peter Brocks territory.
Burnt Out,
Mwj.
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From cfreeberg at juno.com Thu Mar 12 12:19:02 2009
From: cfreeberg at juno.com (carlin h freeberg)
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:19:02 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P6 parts?
Message-ID: <20090312.101038.3268.4.cfreeberg@juno.com>
I have what's left of a '68 P6 body: Trunk lid, doors & windows,
differential. I also have a couple of hoods that have been slightly bent
from opening en route. The windshield has cracks. I plan to have it
hauled away (no wheels) this spring. Anyone want parts from it --- free,
except for shipping/handling. I'm in Bellingham, WA.
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From crabapple at whidbey.net Thu Mar 12 13:36:43 2009
From: crabapple at whidbey.net (Crabapple Tree)
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:36:43 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P6 parts?
References: <20090312.101038.3268.4.cfreeberg@juno.com>
Message-ID: <52B087A8F36F4873BD167B1CB981B6C9@emily>
I hope this is the right way to contact Carlin. Carlin, I am interested in
some of your parts. I am on whidbey island, so not too far away. Thanks,
Paul Timms
----- Original Message -----
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To: <p6rovers at yahoo.com>; <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:19 AM
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P6 parts?
>I have what's left of a '68 P6 body: Trunk lid, doors & windows,
> differential. I also have a couple of hoods that have been slightly bent
> from opening en route. The windshield has cracks. I plan to have it
> hauled away (no wheels) this spring. Anyone want parts from it --- free,
> except for shipping/handling. I'm in Bellingham, WA.
> ____________________________________________________________
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From ABoasberg at webtv.net Thu Mar 12 20:45:03 2009
From: ABoasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg)
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:45:03 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P6 parts?
In-Reply-To: carlin h freeberg <cfreeberg@juno.com>'s message of Thu, 12
Mar 2009 09:19:02 -0700
Message-ID: <26053-49B9AC8F-6462@storefull-3113.bay.webtv.net>
Does the clock work?
Regards,
Albert
From sdibdin at hotmail.com Thu Mar 12 20:52:25 2009
From: sdibdin at hotmail.com (Steven Dibdin)
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:52:25 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] used to be parts now clocks
In-Reply-To: <26053-49B9AC8F-6462@storefull-3113.bay.webtv.net>
References: carlin h freeberg <cfreeberg@juno.com>'s message of Thu, 12 Mar
2009 09:19:02 -0700 <26053-49B9AC8F-6462@storefull-3113.bay.webtv.net>
Message-ID: <BAY106-W290033B8050FBB9DF86EEAB09C0@phx.gbl>
Hi Albert,
Most times you can fix the clock by removing it from the dash, carefully releasing the steel housing and cleaning the contacts for the winding mechanism. I did this two years ago on my TC and it's still going stonge.
Cheers,
Steven
From ABoasberg at webtv.net Thu Mar 12 21:29:17 2009
From: ABoasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg)
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:29:17 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] used to be parts now clocks
In-Reply-To: Steven Dibdin <sdibdin@hotmail.com>'s message of Fri, 13 Mar
2009 00:52:25 +0000
Message-ID: <26054-49B9B6ED-3736@storefull-3113.bay.webtv.net>
Dear Steven:
Thanks for the very useful tip!
Best regards,
Albert
From rababiuk at telusplanet.net Sat Mar 14 20:08:38 2009
From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net (Roy Babiuk)
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:08:38 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Upgrade radiator?
Message-ID: <C5E1A326.6234%rababiuk@telusplanet.net>
I'll be sending my radiator out for a re-core while the bottom rebuild is
being done. How many rows are standard for a 1970 TC radiator?
Any need or benefit to adding an extra row? Any reason not too?
I also see that many P6 owners in Britain add an electric fan ahead of the
radiator. Is there any advantage to doing this in our Canadian climate?
Thanks,
Roy
From sdibdin at hotmail.com Sun Mar 15 10:39:25 2009
From: sdibdin at hotmail.com (Steven Dibdin)
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:39:25 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Upgrade radiator?
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Hi Roy
I'm not sure about the number of rows on the rad, but I can tell you that the electric fan is a good thing generally. Unlinke a conventional fan it doesn't sap power and slow throttle response all the time. On top of that it allows the engine to heat up quicker from cold and aid cooling in traffic. (useful in the UK's crowed streets).
Hope that helpps,
Steven
From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Sun Mar 15 17:23:09 2009
From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson)
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 21:23:09 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan
Message-ID: <BAY119-W5425B8567CAB420DE62098DE9A0@phx.gbl>
Ok i'm wondering how much power would the electric fan save you since you still must run the generator/alternator off the pulley also ..........i can see the cooling aspect though
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From JYX95K at aol.com Sun Mar 15 17:28:10 2009
From: JYX95K at aol.com (JYX95K at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:28:10 EDT
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan
Message-ID: <bd7.45d70ca2.36eeccea@aol.com>
In a message dated 15/03/2009 21:23:48 GMT Standard Time,
rover2000nut at hotmail.com writes:
Ok i'm wondering how much power would the electric fan save you since you
still must run the generator/alternator off the pulley also ...........i can
see the cooling aspect though
I run a Kenlowe fan on my P6 2200 auto, without an engine fan - more to do
with trying to stop the thing from vapour locking and getting upset in
traffic, which it still does despite trying all methods.
I will vouch for fuel savings though - last year I got 30mpg overall on a
long trip. Excellent.
Cheers
Nick
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From Paul.Smith at transend.com.au Sun Mar 15 17:38:09 2009
From: Paul.Smith at transend.com.au (Paul Smith)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 08:38:09 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan
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I had a book with a graph of fan power consumption on a stationary
engine - to get an airflow at idle it drew 16hp at 5000rpm.
That was in The Design and Tuning of Competition Engines, D. Smith
Home P6s had a 4 blade fan, which is ok up to 32C.
Australian exports got a 6 blade fan that moves a ton of air - open
drivers door when idling and stick your hand down... but it does work up
to 40C.
I removed it and put a 5A fan in. It really wants around an 8A or so,
bit more air if climbing long hills in summer.
PVS
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Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan
Ok i'm wondering how much power would the electric fan save you since
you still must run the generator/alternator off the pulley also
..........i can see the cooling aspect though
Bill Robertson
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From mikshdik at ozemail.com.au Sun Mar 15 20:54:10 2009
From: mikshdik at ozemail.com.au (Mike Shaddick)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:54:10 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] peripatesis
Message-ID: <a06240803c5e3538a6247@[192.168.0.110]>
On the road again. I'll keep the the ozemail e-mail going for
another week or so but the new address is mikshdik at gmail.com
First stop is New Zealand then the West Indies. Cheers
From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Mon Mar 16 06:47:27 2009
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:47:27 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Electric fan and water vessel
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Lots of people in italy installed the electric fan, I do not have any
idea of power consumption.
A 6 blade fan could be a very good solution.
are they available?
I installed a 2 liters vessel in the corner of the engine bay of my p6,
it improved cooling and it is cheap and simple .
I wrote about in 2003 if I remember well, and a couple of years ago I re
- sent the message.
If someone is still interested...
best regards, gianluca.
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Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan
I had a book with a graph of fan power consumption on a stationary
engine - to get an airflow at idle it drew 16hp at 5000rpm.
That was in The Design and Tuning of Competition Engines, D. Smith
Home P6s had a 4 blade fan, which is ok up to 32C.
Australian exports got a 6 blade fan that moves a ton of air - open
drivers door when idling and stick your hand down... but it does work up
to 40C.
I removed it and put a 5A fan in. It really wants around an 8A or so,
bit more air if climbing long hills in summer.
PVS
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Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan
Ok i'm wondering how much power would the electric fan save you since
you still must run the generator/alternator off the pulley also
..........i can see the cooling aspect though
Bill Robertson
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From MarkCoorparoo at aol.com Mon Mar 16 08:01:36 2009
From: MarkCoorparoo at aol.com (MarkCoorparoo at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 08:01:36 EDT
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan, Regenerative.
Message-ID: <ced.528ff7cb.36ef99a0@aol.com>
Hi Paul and All,
Many decades ago I really started to contemplate
"Regenerative Braking". My Dad first mentioned the subject to me when I was
just a kid. He was a pretty good Industrial Chemist and Physicist. He is still
around, just gave up those disciplines almost half a century ago.
When I discovered that Ferdinand Porsche' first car was electric with a
motor in each wheel and first shown in 1901, these things got my attention .
In 1901 redundant and double redundant systems would have been unthought of, so
the first Porsche unfortunately had some problems and didn't succeed.
However with modern micro- electronics and integrated circuits the same basic
design would....
So how do we drive our electric fans and other goodies. Big Truck
alternators, 150 amps or up, sell for around $400 in Oz. They do 5-8,000 hours
before failure, two and a half to four years around town, then get recycled. On a
car, forever...
One of the projects that I wish to get to, is to stick a giant alternator
on the side of one of my Rover V8's and put some micro-electronics in place
that makes sure it only makes zundefolge when I stick my foot on the Brake
Pedal. That is prettly basic. On a trip to Sydney we would probably finish up with
a flat battery. So we have to add some other electronics. We need to pump up
the accumulater at every opputunity. If we could get into the Toyota Motor
Generator, the elecs would be be sorted .
The point of this, is that some of you guys who have more electronic
ability than I should take an advance into Rover Ecology. You put fossil remains
into your Rover to make it go fast, we should retreive as much as we can.
Regenerative stuff.
So you are worried about HydoCarbons, lets stretch them as far as I can.
The electrics have to be powered by DeCelerative Inertia. Love to do this one
day. I have burnt out again.
Regards,
MWJ.
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From ABoasberg at webtv.net Mon Mar 16 18:31:43 2009
From: ABoasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:31:43 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
In-Reply-To: Steven Dibdin <sdibdin@hotmail.com>'s message of Sun, 15 Mar
2009 14:39:25 +0000
Message-ID: <4863-49BED34F-14540@storefull-3112.bay.webtv.net>
Does anyone happen to know the original price of a 1970 Rover 3500S in
U.S. dollars when first offered for sale here?
Thanks.
Albert
From vern at inkspotco.com Mon Mar 16 18:43:53 2009
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:43:53 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
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Off the top of head, around $4000. Others may be able to narrow it
further.
Yours
Vern
On 16-Mar-09, at 3:31 PM, Albert Boasberg wrote:
> Does anyone happen to know the original price of a 1970 Rover 3500S in
> U.S. dollars when first offered for sale here?
>
> Thanks.
> Albert
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From ilcommodor at aol.com Mon Mar 16 19:02:15 2009
From: ilcommodor at aol.com (ilcommodor at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:02:15 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
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My memory was 5995 dollars. I know my parents were quoted 4200 for a 2000TC in ny in 1966.
Jamie kitman
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Does anyone happen to know the original price of a 1970 Rover 3500S in
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Thanks.
Albert
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From ABoasberg at webtv.net Mon Mar 16 19:07:12 2009
From: ABoasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:07:12 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
In-Reply-To: Vern Klukas <vern@inkspotco.com>'s message of Mon, 16 Mar 2009
15:43:53 -0700
Message-ID: <4863-49BEDBA0-14567@storefull-3112.bay.webtv.net>
Dear Vern:
Thanks for your estimate of around $4,000 for a 1970 3500S original
price.
That sounds a little low. I bought my 1969 TC 2000 brand new from a
Rover dealer (I still have it!) for $4,500, so the '70 3500S must have
cost more than that.
Kind regards,
Albert
From vern at inkspotco.com Mon Mar 16 19:08:47 2009
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:08:47 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
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Yes, I'm rethinking that number as well.
Yours
Vern
On 16-Mar-09, at 4:07 PM, Albert Boasberg wrote:
> Dear Vern:
>
> Thanks for your estimate of around $4,000 for a 1970 3500S original
> price.
>
> That sounds a little low. I bought my 1969 TC 2000 brand new from a
> Rover dealer (I still have it!) for $4,500, so the '70 3500S must have
> cost more than that.
>
> Kind regards,
> Albert
>
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From sdibdin at hotmail.com Mon Mar 16 19:50:45 2009
From: sdibdin at hotmail.com (Hotmail)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:50:45 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
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To Albert
I have ask, why do you want to know?:-)
Cheers
Steven
Steven Dibdin
Design Prototyping Manager
Smart Design
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Suite 1820
New York
NY 10001
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On Mar 16, 2009, at 19:08, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote:
> Yes, I'm rethinking that number as well.
>
> Yours
> Vern
> On 16-Mar-09, at 4:07 PM, Albert Boasberg wrote:
>
>> Dear Vern:
>>
>> Thanks for your estimate of around $4,000 for a 1970 3500S original
>> price.
>>
>> That sounds a little low. I bought my 1969 TC 2000 brand new from a
>> Rover dealer (I still have it!) for $4,500, so the '70 3500S must
>> have
>> cost more than that.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Albert
>>
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From ABoasberg at webtv.net Mon Mar 16 20:03:53 2009
From: ABoasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:03:53 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
In-Reply-To: Hotmail <sdibdin@hotmail.com>'s message of Mon, 16 Mar 2009
19:50:45 -0400
Message-ID: <11650-49BEE8E9-9122@storefull-3111.bay.webtv.net>
Dear Steve:
A fair question:
I plan to enter my 3500S in a local car show.
They have two different classifications for foreign car entries,
depending on original sales prices.
One class is for cars originally selling for under $5,000 and the other
is for cars selling for over $5,000.
So I wanted to know what class I should enter.
Best regards,
Albert
From sdibdin at hotmail.com Mon Mar 16 20:09:22 2009
From: sdibdin at hotmail.com (Hotmail)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:09:22 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
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Makes sense. Hope you do well.
Steven Dibdin
Design Prototyping Manager
Smart Design
601 w26 St
Suite 1820
New York
NY 10001
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Cell: 862.684.1166
On Mar 16, 2009, at 20:03, ABoasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg) wrote:
> Dear Steve:
>
> A fair question:
>
> I plan to enter my 3500S in a local car show.
>
> They have two different classifications for foreign car entries,
> depending on original sales prices.
>
> One class is for cars originally selling for under $5,000 and the
> other
> is for cars selling for over $5,000.
>
> So I wanted to know what class I should enter.
>
> Best regards,
> Albert
>
>
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From ABoasberg at webtv.net Mon Mar 16 20:13:08 2009
From: ABoasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:13:08 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
In-Reply-To: Hotmail <sdibdin@hotmail.com>'s message of Mon, 16 Mar 2009
20:09:22 -0400
Message-ID: <11649-49BEEB14-14928@storefull-3111.bay.webtv.net>
Thanks, Steve, for your good wishes.
Best,
Albert
From smokeandsteam at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 20:16:17 2009
From: smokeandsteam at gmail.com (Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:16:17 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP1065697EF7F3B644AA84EFB0980@phx.gbl>
References: <11650-49BEE8E9-9122@storefull-3111.bay.webtv.net>
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>From the 1970 list suggested retail price at port of entry was $5,398
A/c was $498, tinted galls was $49.50, heated rear window and rood
rack $49.00, anmd the radio was $100 (extra for installation)
Hope this helps
Aidrian
From debby at dstas.com Mon Mar 16 19:00:17 2009
From: debby at dstas.com (Debby@dstas.com)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:00:17 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
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uggested Retail Price at Port of Entry $5,398.00
http://www.britishv8.org/Articles/Rover3500S-PressRelease2.htm
Debby in Beaumont, Texas USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vern Klukas" <vern at inkspotco.com>
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Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
Off the top of head, around $4000. Others may be able to narrow it
further.
Yours
Vern
On 16-Mar-09, at 3:31 PM, Albert Boasberg wrote:
> Does anyone happen to know the original price of a 1970 Rover 3500S in
> U.S. dollars when first offered for sale here?
>
> Thanks.
> Albert
>
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From ABoasberg at webtv.net Mon Mar 16 22:51:44 2009
From: ABoasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:51:44 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
In-Reply-To: Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton <smokeandsteam@gmail.com>'s message
of Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:16:17 -0700
Message-ID: <4862-49BF1040-23754@storefull-3112.bay.webtv.net>
Dear Aidrian:
Thanks very much for your detailed info.
Now I know which clasasification to enter.
Best regards.
Albert
From ABoasberg at webtv.net Mon Mar 16 22:58:32 2009
From: ABoasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:58:32 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
In-Reply-To: "Debby@dstas.com" <debby@dstas.com>'s message of Mon,
16 Mar 2009 18:00:17 -0500
Message-ID: <4864-49BF11D8-9326@storefull-3112.bay.webtv.net>
Dear Debby:
Right on the mark!
Thanks very much and with best wishes,
Albert
From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Tue Mar 17 05:17:28 2009
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:17:28 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
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It was a very expensive car.
Which was at that time the price iof a Cadillac?
And what is a " tinted gall" ?
Best regards, Gianluca.
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton
Inviato: marted? 17 marzo 2009 1.16
A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
>From the 1970 list suggested retail price at port of entry was $5,398
A/c was $498, tinted galls was $49.50, heated rear window and rood rack $49.00, anmd the radio was $100 (extra for installation)
Hope this helps
Aidrian
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From raymond.wilkins at bigpond.com Tue Mar 17 06:53:25 2009
From: raymond.wilkins at bigpond.com (Ray Wilkins)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:53:25 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
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Adrian must have a dyslexic computer! Tinted galls should be 'Tinted Glass
All Round (necessary with air conditioning)'. Very interesting. Firstly,
does it mean the windscreen was tinted? Illegal in Australia and probably
everywhere else as well. Also, necessary with air conditioning? I know it
certainly helps but necessary?
Ray Wilkins
Melbourne Australia
-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com
Sent: Tuesday, 17 March 2009 8:17 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
It was a very expensive car.
Which was at that time the price iof a Cadillac?
And what is a " tinted gall" ?
Best regards, Gianluca.
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per
conto di Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton
Inviato: marted? 17 marzo 2009 1.16
A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
>From the 1970 list suggested retail price at port of entry was $5,398
A/c was $498, tinted galls was $49.50, heated rear window and rood rack
$49.00, anmd the radio was $100 (extra for installation)
Hope this helps
Aidrian
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From irishrover1 at sympatico.ca Tue Mar 17 07:15:45 2009
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:15:45 -0300
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Happy St Pats Day
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From kkinard at att.net Tue Mar 17 09:04:30 2009
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:04:30 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
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Hi Ray,
Tinted glass was "mandatory option" with A/C, meaning you had to order
the glass to get the A/C (so supposedly no NAS A/C cars were produced
without tinted glass.) This includes the tinted windscreen which is not
illegal here. Albert's NAS P6B w/o A/C (California car) has tinted
glass all around. All my NAS P6B's with A/C have tinted glass. My 452
car (Series 2 RHD export) has tinted glass all around but I doubt that
it was original as the car is heavily modified.
I'd be interested to know if anyone has a NAS P6B w/o AC that came
without tinted glass.
Roverly,
Kent K.
Ray Wilkins wrote:
> Adrian must have a dyslexic computer! Tinted galls should be 'Tinted Glass
> All Round (necessary with air conditioning)'. Very interesting. Firstly,
> does it mean the windscreen was tinted? Illegal in Australia and probably
> everywhere else as well. Also, necessary with air conditioning? I know it
> certainly helps but necessary?
>
> Ray Wilkins
> Melbourne Australia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
> Behalf Of gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com
> Sent: Tuesday, 17 March 2009 8:17 PM
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
>
> It was a very expensive car.
> Which was at that time the price iof a Cadillac?
>
> And what is a " tinted gall" ?
>
> Best regards, Gianluca.
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per
> conto di Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton
> Inviato: marted? 17 marzo 2009 1.16
> A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
>
> >From the 1970 list suggested retail price at port of entry was $5,398
>
> A/c was $498, tinted galls was $49.50, heated rear window and rood rack
> $49.00, anmd the radio was $100 (extra for installation)
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Aidrian
>
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From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Tue Mar 17 09:29:40 2009
From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:29:40 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 3500S battery size?
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Can anyone confirm the correct battery size or group number for a P6B
3500S (trunk / boot mounting)? I would like to get a new battery to
take the next time I go to work on the car.
So far I have one vote for Group 25, which -- according to Interstate --
has dimensions of 9"L x 6 7/8" W x 8 3/4" H.
--Steve Manwell
>
From phing at videotron.ca Tue Mar 17 09:45:52 2009
From: phing at videotron.ca (Patrick Hiron)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:45:52 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 3500S battery size?
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Henry
I fitted a Group 47 with no problems
Patrick
-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of S Manwell
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:30 AM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 3500S battery size?
Can anyone confirm the correct battery size or group number for a P6B
3500S (trunk / boot mounting)? I would like to get a new battery to
take the next time I go to work on the car.
So far I have one vote for Group 25, which -- according to Interstate --
has dimensions of 9"L x 6 7/8" W x 8 3/4" H.
--Steve Manwell
>
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From vern at inkspotco.com Tue Mar 17 11:03:09 2009
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:03:09 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
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My TC has tinted glass, and I have owned at least two others with
tinted glass. None had AC
Yours
Vern
On 17-Mar-09, at 6:04 AM, Kent Kinard wrote:
> Hi Ray,
> Tinted glass was "mandatory option" with A/C, meaning you had to
> order the glass to get the A/C (so supposedly no NAS A/C cars were
> produced without tinted glass.) This includes the tinted windscreen
> which is not illegal here. Albert's NAS P6B w/o A/C (California
> car) has tinted glass all around. All my NAS P6B's with A/C have
> tinted glass. My 452 car (Series 2 RHD export) has tinted glass all
> around but I doubt that it was original as the car is heavily
> modified.
> I'd be interested to know if anyone has a NAS P6B w/o AC that came
> without tinted glass.
>
> Roverly,
> Kent K.
>
> Ray Wilkins wrote:
>> Adrian must have a dyslexic computer! Tinted galls should be
>> 'Tinted Glass
>> All Round (necessary with air conditioning)'. Very interesting.
>> Firstly,
>> does it mean the windscreen was tinted? Illegal in Australia and
>> probably
>> everywhere else as well. Also, necessary with air conditioning? I
>> know it
>> certainly helps but necessary?
>>
>> Ray Wilkins
>> Melbourne Australia
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
>> ] On
>> Behalf Of gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, 17 March 2009 8:17 PM
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S.
>> Dollars
>>
>> It was a very expensive car.
>> Which was at that time the price iof a Cadillac?
>>
>> And what is a " tinted gall" ?
>>
>> Best regards, Gianluca.
>> -----Messaggio originale-----
>> Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-
>> bounces at rovernet.ca] Per
>> conto di Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton
>> Inviato: marted? 17 marzo 2009 1.16
>> A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
>> Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S.
>> Dollars
>>
>> >From the 1970 list suggested retail price at port of entry was
>> $5,398
>>
>> A/c was $498, tinted galls was $49.50, heated rear window and rood
>> rack
>> $49.00, anmd the radio was $100 (extra for installation)
>>
>> Hope this helps
>>
>> Aidrian
>>
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From vern at inkspotco.com Tue Mar 17 11:07:06 2009
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:07:06 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 3500S battery size?
In-Reply-To: <49BFA5C4.9060703@alum.swarthmore.edu>
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You can't get the "correct" size, as it is not in the current "group
number system" in use today. I just measure the space and find the
closest match. The group 25 rings a bell, but the last battery I
bought was about 4 years ago, so memory is dim.
Yours
Vern
On 17-Mar-09, at 6:29 AM, S Manwell wrote:
>
> Can anyone confirm the correct battery size or group number for a
> P6B 3500S (trunk / boot mounting)? I would like to get a new
> battery to take the next time I go to work on the car.
>
> So far I have one vote for Group 25, which -- according to
> Interstate -- has dimensions of 9"L x 6 7/8" W x 8 3/4" H.
>
> --Steve Manwell
>>
>
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From slatskars at comcast.net Tue Mar 17 12:42:12 2009
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:42:12 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
In-Reply-To: <C43EAAA1-BA80-42D5-B0E2-24747460CF71@inkspotco.com>
Message-ID: <515552405.5087231237308132356.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
In August 1968, I bought a new 1968 Chrysler fully loaded 300 for $4500. This is for comparison, I make no claims about relative values!
Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vern Klukas" <vern at inkspotco.com>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:08:47 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
Yes, I'm rethinking that number as well.
Yours
Vern
On 16-Mar-09, at 4:07 PM, Albert Boasberg wrote:
> Dear Vern:
>
> Thanks for your estimate of around $4,000 for a 1970 3500S original
> price.
>
> That sounds a little low. I bought my 1969 TC 2000 brand new from a
> Rover dealer (I still have it!) for $4,500, so the '70 3500S must have
> cost more than that.
>
> Kind regards,
> Albert
>
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From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:09:10 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover p6 2000 TC e 2200 Tc sparkles
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Which sparkles do you use on your 4 cylinder engines?
Mine should be Champion NYC7.
What about yours?
Best regards, gianluca.
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From hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu Tue Mar 17 13:33:06 2009
From: hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu (Hank and Sally Manwell)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:33:06 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 3500S battery size?
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Wouldn't it be the same one that fits the Series II TC, which also has the
battery in the boot, Steve? The hold down frame for that battery is pretty
uncompromising in size and the terminals have to be in just the right
location for cutouts in the cover or the cover can't be fitted. Of course
my Series II cars are not with me in Florida for the winter, so I can't be
much help with those dimensions terminal locations.
Hank
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Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 3500S battery size?
>
> Can anyone confirm the correct battery size or group number for a P6B
> 3500S (trunk / boot mounting)? I would like to get a new battery to
> take the next time I go to work on the car.
>
> So far I have one vote for Group 25, which -- according to Interstate --
> has dimensions of 9"L x 6 7/8" W x 8 3/4" H.
>
> --Steve Manwell
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From brian_humphreys at btconnect.com Tue Mar 17 13:36:43 2009
From: brian_humphreys at btconnect.com (Brian Humphreys)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:36:43 -0000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover p6 2000 TC e 2200 Tc
sparkles
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I use NGK BP6ES ...... because that's what the charts say in the motor factors.
However, I found this the other day when searching for plug heat ratings. I can't remember the site I found it, but I downloaded the chart and made it accessible - you can find it here:
http://www.thehumphreys.me.uk/P6Rover/Spark%20Plug%20Heat%20Range%20Comparison.jpg
But that implies that we should be using BP7ES from NGK in our TC's, because as you say, the P6 book does specify Champion N7Y.
I haven't had any problems though.....
Brian.
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From sdibdin at hotmail.com Tue Mar 17 14:05:20 2009
From: sdibdin at hotmail.com (Steven Dibdin)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:05:20 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover p6 2000 TC e 2200 Tc
sparkles
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Hi Gianluca,
I know my SI TC has N6Y specified, but later cars (SII) had N7Y specified to reduce sooting up at idle. I now use N7Y and have noticed an improvement in running. The N7Y is a hotter spark plug, but I haven't noticed any pre-ignition (pinging) so I think I'm okay.
Cheers,
Steven
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Tue Mar 17 14:15:41 2009
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:15:41 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: R: Rover p6 2000 TC e 2200 Tc sparkles
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Dear friends,
thanks everyone for your kindness and your suggestions.
I will go on using Nyc7, it was only to know.
in these days the mechanic is repairing the car, because the starter engine has gone.
Sparkles were very dirty, I did not know because the car was going well but one sunday the engine did not start.
air filters were ok, carburettors were ok so I tried and tried, it turned up but I took too long the key in the starting position so the starting engine has gone.
With the occasion I will change the sparklesand i will buy again Nyc7.
Best regards, Gianluca.
________________________________
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Inviato: marted? 17 marzo 2009 19.05
A: RoverNet
Cc: brian at thehumphreys.me.uk
Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover p6 2000 TC e 2200 Tc sparkles
Hi Gianluca,
I know my SI TC has N6Y specified, but later cars (SII) had N7Y specified to reduce sooting up at idle. I now use N7Y and have noticed an improvement in running. The N7Y is a hotter spark plug, but I haven't noticed any pre-ignition (pinging) so I think I'm okay.
Cheers,
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From vern at inkspotco.com Tue Mar 17 14:15:07 2009
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:15:07 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover p6 2000 TC e 2200 Tc
sparkles
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I would suggest using fine wire plugs, AKA platinum or iridium. Solves
the fouling problem completely, plus will last 3 to 4 times more than
a normal spark plug.
Yours
Vern
On 17-Mar-09, at 10:09 AM, <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com> wrote:
> Which sparkles do you use on your 4 cylinder engines?
>
> Mine should be Champion NYC7.
>
> What about yours?
>
> Best regards, gianluca.
>
>
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Tue Mar 17 14:21:24 2009
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:21:24 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: R: Rover p6 2000 TC e 2200 Tcsparkles
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Please send complete references.
Are they available in Europe or in Italy?
maybe on e- bay...
Are they the same for 2000 TC and for 2200 TC?
best regards, gianluca.
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Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Vern Klukas
Inviato: marted? 17 marzo 2009 19.15
A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover p6 2000 TC e 2200 Tcsparkles
I would suggest using fine wire plugs, AKA platinum or iridium. Solves the fouling problem completely, plus will last 3 to 4 times more than a normal spark plug.
Yours
Vern
On 17-Mar-09, at 10:09 AM, <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com> wrote:
Which sparkles do you use on your 4 cylinder engines?
Mine should be Champion NYC7.
What about yours?
Best regards, gianluca.
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From vern at inkspotco.com Tue Mar 17 14:43:45 2009
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:43:45 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: R: Rover p6 2000 TC e 2200
Tcsparkles
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The NGK number for their Iridium plug is BPR6EIX (remember the 6 is
the heat range, you can go to the 7 plug as well.
They also supply a platinum plug for a little less money, the iridium
plugs are quite pricey. They will be available in your neck of the
woods.
Yours
Vern
On 17-Mar-09, at 11:21 AM, <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com> <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com
> wrote:
> Please send complete references.
>
> Are they available in Europe or in Italy?
>
> maybe on e- bay...
>
> Are they the same for 2000 TC and for 2200 TC?
>
> best regards, gianluca.
>
> Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-
> bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Vern Klukas
> Inviato: marted? 17 marzo 2009 19.15
> A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover p6 2000 TC e 2200
> Tcsparkles
>
> I would suggest using fine wire plugs, AKA platinum or iridium.
> Solves the fouling problem completely, plus will last 3 to 4 times
> more than a normal spark plug.
>
> Yours
> Vern
> On 17-Mar-09, at 10:09 AM, <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com> wrote:
>
>> Which sparkles do you use on your 4 cylinder engines?
>>
>> Mine should be Champion NYC7.
>>
>> What about yours?
>>
>> Best regards, gianluca.
>>
>>
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Tue Mar 17 14:49:23 2009
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:49:23 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: R: R: Rover p6 2000 TC e
2200Tcsparkles
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Thanks, Vern!
best regards, Gianluca.
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A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: R: Rover p6 2000 TC e 2200Tcsparkles
The NGK number for their Iridium plug is BPR6EIX (remember the 6 is the heat range, you can go to the 7 plug as well.
They also supply a platinum plug for a little less money, the iridium plugs are quite pricey. They will be available in your neck of the woods.
Yours
Vern
On 17-Mar-09, at 11:21 AM, <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com> <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com> wrote:
Please send complete references.
Are they available in Europe or in Italy?
maybe on e- bay...
Are they the same for 2000 TC and for 2200 TC?
best regards, gianluca.
________________________________
Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Vern Klukas
Inviato: marted? 17 marzo 2009 19.15
A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover p6 2000 TC e 2200 Tcsparkles
I would suggest using fine wire plugs, AKA platinum or iridium. Solves the fouling problem completely, plus will last 3 to 4 times more than a normal spark plug.
Yours
Vern
On 17-Mar-09, at 10:09 AM, <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com> wrote:
Which sparkles do you use on your 4 cylinder engines?
Mine should be Champion NYC7.
What about yours?
Best regards, gianluca.
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From: Paul.Smith at transend.com.au (Paul Smith)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:04:23 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
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Windscreens can have a 35% tint here.
I have one in the 3500.
It is hard to get a clear screen now!
PVS
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Ray Wilkins
Sent: Tuesday, 17 March 2009 9:53 PM
To: 'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
Adrian must have a dyslexic computer! Tinted galls should be 'Tinted Glass
All Round (necessary with air conditioning)'. Very interesting. Firstly,
does it mean the windscreen was tinted? Illegal in Australia and probably
everywhere else as well. Also, necessary with air conditioning? I know it
certainly helps but necessary?
Ray Wilkins
Melbourne Australia
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com
Sent: Tuesday, 17 March 2009 8:17 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
It was a very expensive car.
Which was at that time the price iof a Cadillac?
And what is a " tinted gall" ?
Best regards, Gianluca.
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per
conto di Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton
Inviato: marted? 17 marzo 2009 1.16
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Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
>From the 1970 list suggested retail price at port of entry was $5,398
A/c was $498, tinted galls was $49.50, heated rear window and rood rack
$49.00, anmd the radio was $100 (extra for installation)
Hope this helps
Aidrian
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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:08:31 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: R: Rover p6 2000 TC e 2200 Tc
sparkles
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The starter motors tend to bend their shaft or split their pinion gear.
A good electrical shop can straighten the shaft.
PVS
________________________________
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Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2009 5:16 AM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Cc: brian at thehumphreys.me.uk
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: R: Rover p6 2000 TC e 2200 Tc sparkles
Dear friends,
thanks everyone for your kindness and your suggestions.
I will go on using Nyc7, it was only to know.
in these days the mechanic is repairing the car, because the starter engine has gone.
Sparkles were very dirty, I did not know because the car was going well but one sunday the engine did not start.
air filters were ok, carburettors were ok so I tried and tried, it turned up but I took too long the key in the starting position so the starting engine has gone.
With the occasion I will change the sparklesand i will buy again Nyc7.
Best regards, Gianluca.
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Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Steven Dibdin
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Cc: brian at thehumphreys.me.uk
Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover p6 2000 TC e 2200 Tc sparkles
Hi Gianluca,
I know my SI TC has N6Y specified, but later cars (SII) had N7Y specified to reduce sooting up at idle. I now use N7Y and have noticed an improvement in running. The N7Y is a hotter spark plug, but I haven't noticed any pre-ignition (pinging) so I think I'm okay.
Cheers,
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From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Wed Mar 18 06:31:22 2009
From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:01:22 +1030
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan
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Paul Smith wrote:
<snip>
>
> Home P6s had a 4 blade fan, which is ok up to 32C.
>
> Australian exports got a 6 blade fan that moves a ton of air - open
> drivers door when idling and stick your hand down... but it does work up
> to 40C.
>
> I removed it and put a 5A fan in. It really wants around an 8A or so,
> bit more air if climbing long hills in summer.
Hi Paul
What brand of fan were you using?
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
From vmitps at netspace.net.au Wed Mar 18 07:00:46 2009
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:00:46 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan
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Still using it - some cheapo thing from Supercheap.
I reckon they'd have one now that is spot on.
Can take a picture of it if you wish.
PVS
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Read" <defender110 at ozemail.com.au>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan
> Paul Smith wrote:
>
> <snip>
>>
>> Home P6s had a 4 blade fan, which is ok up to 32C.
>>
>> Australian exports got a 6 blade fan that moves a ton of air - open
>> drivers door when idling and stick your hand down... but it does work up
>> to 40C.
>>
>> I removed it and put a 5A fan in. It really wants around an 8A or so,
>> bit more air if climbing long hills in summer.
>
> Hi Paul
> What brand of fan were you using?
>
> Cheers
> Dave
> South Oz
>
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From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Wed Mar 18 15:10:19 2009
From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 05:40:19 +1030
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan
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Bill Robertson wrote:
> Ok i'm wondering how much power would the electric fan save you since you still must run the generator/alternator off the pulley also ..........i can see the cooling aspect though
>
>
>
> Bill Robertson
Hi Bill
Not trying to rain on anyone's parade here, just "balancing the books"
so to speak.
Check out http://www.aaroncake.net/rx-7/efanmyth.htm
It's origin is Mazda RX7 based, but can be translated to any vehicle
system, as their cooling systems all operate the same.
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
From vern at inkspotco.com Wed Mar 18 15:43:49 2009
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:43:49 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan
In-Reply-To: <49C1471B.3050403@ozemail.com.au>
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In reading that article, the gist is correct but there are several
logical and factual errors in the logic and calculations the fellow
uses. (for example, he adds the inefficiency of the alternator to the
electrical side, but that inefficiency is on the mechanical side of
the equation) The effect is to exaggerate the misconception he is
talking about.
And it is important to note that P6s have a direct drive fan, which
continues to draw increasing amounts of power up until it begins to
cavitate at something like 4000 rpm.
But as I said, the gist is correct.
Yours
Vern
On 18-Mar-09, at 12:10 PM, David Read wrote:
> Bill Robertson wrote:
>> Ok i'm wondering how much power would the electric fan save you
>> since you still must run the generator/alternator off the pulley
>> also ..........i can see the cooling aspect though Bill Robertson
>
> Hi Bill
> Not trying to rain on anyone's parade here, just "balancing the
> books" so to speak.
> Check out http://www.aaroncake.net/rx-7/efanmyth.htm
>
> It's origin is Mazda RX7 based, but can be translated to any vehicle
> system, as their cooling systems all operate the same.
>
> Cheers
> Dave
> South Oz
>
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From vmitps at netspace.net.au Thu Mar 19 02:49:54 2009
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:49:54 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan
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Actually I reckon it is largely inapplicable to P6s.
No clutch and no thermal control on a P6, and it assumes the pulley fan
works as well at cooling (er no...).
It also assumes you do not need assisted cooling above 20mph, which is bunk
on a decent hillclimb.
It does not look at the mech inefficiency of the viscous coupling.
PVS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vern Klukas" <vern at inkspotco.com>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan
> In reading that article, the gist is correct but there are several
> logical and factual errors in the logic and calculations the fellow uses.
> (for example, he adds the inefficiency of the alternator to the
> electrical side, but that inefficiency is on the mechanical side of the
> equation) The effect is to exaggerate the misconception he is talking
> about.
>
> And it is important to note that P6s have a direct drive fan, which
> continues to draw increasing amounts of power up until it begins to
> cavitate at something like 4000 rpm.
>
> But as I said, the gist is correct.
>
> Yours
> Vern
> On 18-Mar-09, at 12:10 PM, David Read wrote:
>
>> Bill Robertson wrote:
>>> Ok i'm wondering how much power would the electric fan save you since
>>> you still must run the generator/alternator off the pulley also
>>> ..........i can see the cooling aspect though Bill Robertson
>>
>> Hi Bill
>> Not trying to rain on anyone's parade here, just "balancing the books"
>> so to speak.
>> Check out http://www.aaroncake.net/rx-7/efanmyth.htm
>>
>> It's origin is Mazda RX7 based, but can be translated to any vehicle
>> system, as their cooling systems all operate the same.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Dave
>> South Oz
>>
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From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Thu Mar 19 06:05:49 2009
From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:35:49 +1030
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan
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Peter,
Considering the P6's were made primarily for UK conditions, I am not
suprised at their poor cooling performance under Oz conditions.
AFAIK, most factory fitted electric fan sets are used due to underbonnet
space restrictions than performance.
My imported 3.5LV8 '76 2 door Rangie had a factory fitted "tropical"
radiator (an extra row of cooling fins) to cope with the Oz climate.
Would run all day in low gear cruising the steep High Country tracks.
I almost never heard the viscous/fan assembly get to the temp where it
would lock solidly.
The coupling mechanical inefficiency is deliberate, they will only lock
solidly at their set maximum airflow temp. (you can certainly hear the
air roar when this happens!!)
At all lower temps they deliberately slip to reduce power drag and noise
level and allow the thermostat to do it's thing.
I am retro fitting a new AU$200 Oz Defender/Rangie viscous to my P6B
..... should give me no cooling problems AND run much quieter and more
economically at higher revs.
No need to uprate my alt to handle the 18 extra amps needed to supply
dual 12" Davis Craig fans. Their advertised life is 1500 hrs at 80
degrees C (approx 2 years at 2 hrs a day)
To me KISS is king - (and cheaper).
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
Netspace wrote:
> Actually I reckon it is largely inapplicable to P6s.
> No clutch and no thermal control on a P6, and it assumes the pulley fan
> works as well at cooling (er no...).
> It also assumes you do not need assisted cooling above 20mph, which is
> bunk on a decent hillclimb.
> It does not look at the mech inefficiency of the viscous coupling.
>
> PVS
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vern Klukas" <vern at inkspotco.com>
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 6:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan
>
>
>> In reading that article, the gist is correct but there are several
>> logical and factual errors in the logic and calculations the fellow
>> uses. (for example, he adds the inefficiency of the alternator to the
>> electrical side, but that inefficiency is on the mechanical side of
>> the equation) The effect is to exaggerate the misconception he is
>> talking about.
>>
>> And it is important to note that P6s have a direct drive fan, which
>> continues to draw increasing amounts of power up until it begins to
>> cavitate at something like 4000 rpm.
>>
>> But as I said, the gist is correct.
>>
>> Yours
>> Vern
>> On 18-Mar-09, at 12:10 PM, David Read wrote:
>>
>>> Bill Robertson wrote:
>>>> Ok i'm wondering how much power would the electric fan save you
>>>> since you still must run the generator/alternator off the pulley
>>>> also ..........i can see the cooling aspect though Bill Robertson
>>>
>>> Hi Bill
>>> Not trying to rain on anyone's parade here, just "balancing the
>>> books" so to speak.
>>> Check out http://www.aaroncake.net/rx-7/efanmyth.htm
>>>
>>> It's origin is Mazda RX7 based, but can be translated to any vehicle
>>> system, as their cooling systems all operate the same.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Dave
>>> South Oz
>>>
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From geffandjulie at comcast.net Thu Mar 19 10:43:35 2009
From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:43:35 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan
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<49C218FD.1040701@ozemail.com.au>
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My NADA 3500S also has the viscous fan coupling, but the fan always sounds
very loud, and I have never heard it change with extreme heat. On the other
hand, here in the Pac NW, there is no heat!
AvMedSafe
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Portland OR 97210
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-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of David Read
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 3:06 AM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan
Peter,
Considering the P6's were made primarily for UK conditions, I am not
suprised at their poor cooling performance under Oz conditions.
AFAIK, most factory fitted electric fan sets are used due to underbonnet
space restrictions than performance.
My imported 3.5LV8 '76 2 door Rangie had a factory fitted "tropical"
radiator (an extra row of cooling fins) to cope with the Oz climate.
Would run all day in low gear cruising the steep High Country tracks.
I almost never heard the viscous/fan assembly get to the temp where it
would lock solidly.
The coupling mechanical inefficiency is deliberate, they will only lock
solidly at their set maximum airflow temp. (you can certainly hear the
air roar when this happens!!)
At all lower temps they deliberately slip to reduce power drag and noise
level and allow the thermostat to do it's thing.
I am retro fitting a new AU$200 Oz Defender/Rangie viscous to my P6B
..... should give me no cooling problems AND run much quieter and more
economically at higher revs.
No need to uprate my alt to handle the 18 extra amps needed to supply
dual 12" Davis Craig fans. Their advertised life is 1500 hrs at 80
degrees C (approx 2 years at 2 hrs a day)
To me KISS is king - (and cheaper).
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
Netspace wrote:
> Actually I reckon it is largely inapplicable to P6s.
> No clutch and no thermal control on a P6, and it assumes the pulley fan
> works as well at cooling (er no...).
> It also assumes you do not need assisted cooling above 20mph, which is
> bunk on a decent hillclimb.
> It does not look at the mech inefficiency of the viscous coupling.
>
> PVS
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vern Klukas" <vern at inkspotco.com>
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 6:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan
>
>
>> In reading that article, the gist is correct but there are several
>> logical and factual errors in the logic and calculations the fellow
>> uses. (for example, he adds the inefficiency of the alternator to the
>> electrical side, but that inefficiency is on the mechanical side of
>> the equation) The effect is to exaggerate the misconception he is
>> talking about.
>>
>> And it is important to note that P6s have a direct drive fan, which
>> continues to draw increasing amounts of power up until it begins to
>> cavitate at something like 4000 rpm.
>>
>> But as I said, the gist is correct.
>>
>> Yours
>> Vern
>> On 18-Mar-09, at 12:10 PM, David Read wrote:
>>
>>> Bill Robertson wrote:
>>>> Ok i'm wondering how much power would the electric fan save you
>>>> since you still must run the generator/alternator off the pulley
>>>> also ..........i can see the cooling aspect though Bill Robertson
>>>
>>> Hi Bill
>>> Not trying to rain on anyone's parade here, just "balancing the
>>> books" so to speak.
>>> Check out http://www.aaroncake.net/rx-7/efanmyth.htm
>>>
>>> It's origin is Mazda RX7 based, but can be translated to any vehicle
>>> system, as their cooling systems all operate the same.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Dave
>>> South Oz
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From Paul.Smith at transend.com.au Thu Mar 19 16:58:48 2009
From: Paul.Smith at transend.com.au (Paul Smith)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:58:48 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan
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The point about the coupling is it is a waste in itself.
Usually electric fans sit closer to the rad and move as much air through
it for less power.
The first one I know of being used was in a VW Passat. It worked well,
and VW had enough brains to put the control thermoswitch at the bottom
of the radiator.
PVS
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Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan
Peter,
Considering the P6's were made primarily for UK conditions, I am not
suprised at their poor cooling performance under Oz conditions.
AFAIK, most factory fitted electric fan sets are used due to underbonnet
space restrictions than performance.
My imported 3.5LV8 '76 2 door Rangie had a factory fitted "tropical"
radiator (an extra row of cooling fins) to cope with the Oz climate.
Would run all day in low gear cruising the steep High Country tracks.
I almost never heard the viscous/fan assembly get to the temp where it
would lock solidly.
The coupling mechanical inefficiency is deliberate, they will only lock
solidly at their set maximum airflow temp. (you can certainly hear the
air roar when this happens!!)
At all lower temps they deliberately slip to reduce power drag and noise
level and allow the thermostat to do it's thing.
I am retro fitting a new AU$200 Oz Defender/Rangie viscous to my P6B
..... should give me no cooling problems AND run much quieter and more
economically at higher revs.
No need to uprate my alt to handle the 18 extra amps needed to supply
dual 12" Davis Craig fans. Their advertised life is 1500 hrs at 80
degrees C (approx 2 years at 2 hrs a day)
To me KISS is king - (and cheaper).
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
Netspace wrote:
> Actually I reckon it is largely inapplicable to P6s.
> No clutch and no thermal control on a P6, and it assumes the pulley
fan
> works as well at cooling (er no...).
> It also assumes you do not need assisted cooling above 20mph, which is
> bunk on a decent hillclimb.
> It does not look at the mech inefficiency of the viscous coupling.
>
> PVS
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vern Klukas" <vern at inkspotco.com>
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 6:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan
>
>
>> In reading that article, the gist is correct but there are several
>> logical and factual errors in the logic and calculations the fellow
>> uses. (for example, he adds the inefficiency of the alternator to the
>> electrical side, but that inefficiency is on the mechanical side of
>> the equation) The effect is to exaggerate the misconception he is
>> talking about.
>>
>> And it is important to note that P6s have a direct drive fan, which
>> continues to draw increasing amounts of power up until it begins to
>> cavitate at something like 4000 rpm.
>>
>> But as I said, the gist is correct.
>>
>> Yours
>> Vern
>> On 18-Mar-09, at 12:10 PM, David Read wrote:
>>
>>> Bill Robertson wrote:
>>>> Ok i'm wondering how much power would the electric fan save you
>>>> since you still must run the generator/alternator off the pulley
>>>> also ..........i can see the cooling aspect though Bill Robertson
>>>
>>> Hi Bill
>>> Not trying to rain on anyone's parade here, just "balancing the
>>> books" so to speak.
>>> Check out http://www.aaroncake.net/rx-7/efanmyth.htm
>>>
>>> It's origin is Mazda RX7 based, but can be translated to any vehicle
>>> system, as their cooling systems all operate the same.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Dave
>>> South Oz
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From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Thu Mar 19 19:29:22 2009
From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:59:22 +1030
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan
In-Reply-To: <6CE7C92082F5B240AE5DCF985CCB526506B1FB@TNSV46.ad.transend.com.au>
References: <BAY119-W5425B8567CAB420DE62098DE9A0@phx.gbl><49C1471B.3050403@ozemail.com.au> <12ED459B-F206-4D0E-8E33-5A39BD288578@inkspotco.com><66395D8612A341F098957004271F029D@Vista> <49C218FD.1040701@ozemail.com.au>
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Hi
Browse http://www.daviescraig.com.au
If you wish to go the whole hog, you can also bypass that pesky power
sapping belt driven water pump and replace it with an electric unit! <VBG>.
Interesting to note that Davis Craig also sell viscous couplings for the
KISS crowd.
;-)
On a side cooling issue - I have recently replaced my ageing
Defender110's 2.5L 300Tdi with a 2.8L HS2800 unit.
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~defender110 at ozemail.com.au/mypage/hs2800.htm
One of my biggest concerns was the extra heat load the 2.8 generates for
the standard cooling system as the 2.8 has power ratings 30% higher than
the 2.5 and 50% more torque. Being more efficient than the 300tdi, it
apparently generates *less* heat at similar power outputs - bonus!!
The only precautions taken was a complete rebuild of the standard rad,
covering up the 12mm emergency core freeze bypass hole between the
adjacent header tanks, replacing the 10 year old viscous coupling/fan,
ensuring a "close" fit of the rad shroud and using a decent Penrite coolant.
I recently towed my 1200kg camper through the alpine high country area
with ease, albeit slowly on the steeper grades. <g>
The 375NM torque at 1400rpm certainly helped here.
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
Paul Smith wrote:
> The point about the coupling is it is a waste in itself.
> Usually electric fans sit closer to the rad and move as much air through
> it for less power.
> The first one I know of being used was in a VW Passat. It worked well,
> and VW had enough brains to put the control thermoswitch at the bottom
> of the radiator.
>
> PVS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On Behalf Of David Read
> Sent: Thursday, 19 March 2009 9:06 PM
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan
>
> Peter,
> Considering the P6's were made primarily for UK conditions, I am not
> suprised at their poor cooling performance under Oz conditions.
>
> AFAIK, most factory fitted electric fan sets are used due to underbonnet
>
> space restrictions than performance.
>
> My imported 3.5LV8 '76 2 door Rangie had a factory fitted "tropical"
> radiator (an extra row of cooling fins) to cope with the Oz climate.
> Would run all day in low gear cruising the steep High Country tracks.
> I almost never heard the viscous/fan assembly get to the temp where it
> would lock solidly.
>
> The coupling mechanical inefficiency is deliberate, they will only lock
> solidly at their set maximum airflow temp. (you can certainly hear the
> air roar when this happens!!)
> At all lower temps they deliberately slip to reduce power drag and noise
>
> level and allow the thermostat to do it's thing.
>
> I am retro fitting a new AU$200 Oz Defender/Rangie viscous to my P6B
> ..... should give me no cooling problems AND run much quieter and more
> economically at higher revs.
> No need to uprate my alt to handle the 18 extra amps needed to supply
> dual 12" Davis Craig fans. Their advertised life is 1500 hrs at 80
> degrees C (approx 2 years at 2 hrs a day)
>
> To me KISS is king - (and cheaper).
>
> Cheers
> Dave
> South Oz
From Paul.Smith at transend.com.au Thu Mar 19 19:39:37 2009
From: Paul.Smith at transend.com.au (Paul Smith)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:39:37 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan
In-Reply-To: <49C2D552.6050407@ozemail.com.au>
References: <BAY119-W5425B8567CAB420DE62098DE9A0@phx.gbl><49C1471B.3050403@ozemail.com.au> <12ED459B-F206-4D0E-8E33-5A39BD288578@inkspotco.com><66395D8612A341F098957004271F029D@Vista> <49C218FD.1040701@ozemail.com.au><6CE7C92082F5B240AE5DCF985CCB526506B1FB@TNSV46.ad.transend.com.au>
<49C2D552.6050407@ozemail.com.au>
Message-ID: <6CE7C92082F5B240AE5DCF985CCB526506B200@TNSV46.ad.transend.com.au>
That might overload my 30A Holden alternator... but yes it is the next
step.
Actually I have a background project to fit a Megasquirt to it. It just
doesn't yet read the VR sensor when cranking. Grrr. So I may use an op
amp to preamplify it...
PVS
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
On Behalf Of David Read
Sent: Friday, 20 March 2009 10:29 AM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan
Hi
Browse http://www.daviescraig.com.au
If you wish to go the whole hog, you can also bypass that pesky power
sapping belt driven water pump and replace it with an electric unit!
<VBG>.
Interesting to note that Davis Craig also sell viscous couplings for the
KISS crowd.
;-)
On a side cooling issue - I have recently replaced my ageing
Defender110's 2.5L 300Tdi with a 2.8L HS2800 unit.
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~defender110 at ozemail.com.au/mypage/hs2800.
htm
One of my biggest concerns was the extra heat load the 2.8 generates for
the standard cooling system as the 2.8 has power ratings 30% higher than
the 2.5 and 50% more torque. Being more efficient than the 300tdi, it
apparently generates *less* heat at similar power outputs - bonus!!
The only precautions taken was a complete rebuild of the standard rad,
covering up the 12mm emergency core freeze bypass hole between the
adjacent header tanks, replacing the 10 year old viscous coupling/fan,
ensuring a "close" fit of the rad shroud and using a decent Penrite
coolant.
I recently towed my 1200kg camper through the alpine high country area
with ease, albeit slowly on the steeper grades. <g>
The 375NM torque at 1400rpm certainly helped here.
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
Paul Smith wrote:
> The point about the coupling is it is a waste in itself.
> Usually electric fans sit closer to the rad and move as much air
through
> it for less power.
> The first one I know of being used was in a VW Passat. It worked
well,
> and VW had enough brains to put the control thermoswitch at the bottom
> of the radiator.
>
> PVS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
[mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On Behalf Of David Read
> Sent: Thursday, 19 March 2009 9:06 PM
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan
>
> Peter,
> Considering the P6's were made primarily for UK conditions, I am not
> suprised at their poor cooling performance under Oz conditions.
>
> AFAIK, most factory fitted electric fan sets are used due to
underbonnet
>
> space restrictions than performance.
>
> My imported 3.5LV8 '76 2 door Rangie had a factory fitted "tropical"
> radiator (an extra row of cooling fins) to cope with the Oz climate.
> Would run all day in low gear cruising the steep High Country tracks.
> I almost never heard the viscous/fan assembly get to the temp where it
> would lock solidly.
>
> The coupling mechanical inefficiency is deliberate, they will only
lock
> solidly at their set maximum airflow temp. (you can certainly hear the
> air roar when this happens!!)
> At all lower temps they deliberately slip to reduce power drag and
noise
>
> level and allow the thermostat to do it's thing.
>
> I am retro fitting a new AU$200 Oz Defender/Rangie viscous to my P6B
> ..... should give me no cooling problems AND run much quieter and more
> economically at higher revs.
> No need to uprate my alt to handle the 18 extra amps needed to supply
> dual 12" Davis Craig fans. Their advertised life is 1500 hrs at 80
> degrees C (approx 2 years at 2 hrs a day)
>
> To me KISS is king - (and cheaper).
>
> Cheers
> Dave
> South Oz
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From roverfreak619 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 19 22:11:09 2009
From: roverfreak619 at yahoo.com (Rover freak)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:11:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan
Message-ID: <934370.5136.qm@web111302.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Hello,?
?I have a 1967 TC 2000 Rover manual with A/C? .. i too have installed an electric fan,, as a pusher,,in front of the radiator,, i had to put brackets to move the radiator back,, and the engine itself has a 5 blade system..i had installed alone with a alternator with build in internal regulator.? A much better and small alternator with higher amps,, well the fan doesnt do much cool as for driving but in traffic or at idle is the only difference in temp,, and much inproved.? along with the electric fan i had put a temp on /off switch, what i did was drilled a hole on top of the thermostate housing, with very littel thread being careful and screwed in the sensor.? The car is a daily driver now,, i had done this abiout a year ago......thanks? Nelson O'R.
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P6 Rover 1967 TC2000 manual?? A/C
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From britcarnut at yahoo.com Fri Mar 20 15:46:48 2009
From: britcarnut at yahoo.com (Geoff Kirkpatrick)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:46:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan
Message-ID: <399699.47149.qm@web36201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
They go back at least a bit further than a VW Passat, because my Jensen Interceptor has twin electric cooling fans as standard equipment. It's a 1973 but I think even the earlier Interceptors are the same. Some years back I stripped a '71 or '72 Mercedes 280SE which also had an electric fan. It's still sitting in my parts stash, waiting for me to come up with a use for it.
Geoff
"This is the final test of a gentleman: his respect for those who can be of no possible service to him."
- William Lyon Phelps
Geoff Kirkpatrick, 382 Riverside Avenue, Ben Lomond, CA 95005, USA
> The point about the coupling is it is a waste in itself.
> Usually electric fans sit closer to the rad and move as
> much air through
> it for less power.
> The first one I know of being used was in a VW
> Passat.? It worked well,
> and VW had enough brains to put the control thermoswitch at
> the bottom
> of the radiator.
>
> PVS
>
>
From slatskars at comcast.net Fri Mar 20 19:34:50 2009
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:34:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electric fan
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For several years, I had a class A motorhome, in which?the temperature guage would read quite high when in heavy traffic. So, I had a pair of electric pancake fans added in front of the radiator to push additional air. Because of the compact design of the engine compartment there was not sufficent room to install a thermostat, so I had a a manual switch installed. When in heavy traffic or up a very long grade, I would turn them on. Made quite a difference, particularly in traffic. Any good radiator shop should be abble to handle this. I used Mac's Radiator in Portland, OR.
Slats
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From lacpsyd6 at msn.com Sat Mar 21 17:51:18 2009
From: lacpsyd6 at msn.com (LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:51:18 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] NAS P6B w/o AC and no tinted glass
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Kent,
My 1970 3500S was ordered for San Francisco, so no a/c was ordered. As a
result the car has no tinted glass.
Lance La Certe, Psy.D.
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> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:17:28 +0100
> From: <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S.
> Dollars
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> It was a very expensive car.
> Which was at that time the price iof a Cadillac?
>
> And what is a " tinted gall" ?
>
> Best regards, Gianluca.
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per
> conto di Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton
> Inviato: marted? 17 marzo 2009 1.16
> A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
>
> >From the 1970 list suggested retail price at port of entry was $5,398
>
> A/c was $498, tinted galls was $49.50, heated rear window and rood rack
> $49.00, anmd the radio was $100 (extra for installation)
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Aidrian
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> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:53:25 +1100
> From: "Ray Wilkins" <raymond.wilkins at bigpond.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S.
> Dollars
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> Adrian must have a dyslexic computer! Tinted galls should be 'Tinted Glass
> All Round (necessary with air conditioning)'. Very interesting. Firstly,
> does it mean the windscreen was tinted? Illegal in Australia and probably
> everywhere else as well. Also, necessary with air conditioning? I know it
> certainly helps but necessary?
>
> Ray Wilkins
> Melbourne Australia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On
> Behalf Of gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com
> Sent: Tuesday, 17 March 2009 8:17 PM
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
>
> It was a very expensive car.
> Which was at that time the price iof a Cadillac?
>
> And what is a " tinted gall" ?
>
> Best regards, Gianluca.
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per
> conto di Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton
> Inviato: marted? 17 marzo 2009 1.16
> A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
>
> >From the 1970 list suggested retail price at port of entry was $5,398
>
> A/c was $498, tinted galls was $49.50, heated rear window and rood rack
> $49.00, anmd the radio was $100 (extra for installation)
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Aidrian
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> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:15:45 -0300
> From: "BEN RODGERS" <irishrover1 at sympatico.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Happy St Pats Day
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> Hi Folks
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:04:30 -0500
> From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S.
> Dollars
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> Hi Ray,
> Tinted glass was "mandatory option" with A/C, meaning you had to order
> the glass to get the A/C (so supposedly no NAS A/C cars were produced
> without tinted glass.) This includes the tinted windscreen which is not
> illegal here. Albert's NAS P6B w/o A/C (California car) has tinted
> glass all around. All my NAS P6B's with A/C have tinted glass. My 452
> car (Series 2 RHD export) has tinted glass all around but I doubt that
> it was original as the car is heavily modified.
>
> I'd be interested to know if anyone has a NAS P6B w/o AC that came
> without tinted glass.
>
> Roverly,
> Kent K.
>
> Ray Wilkins wrote:
> > Adrian must have a dyslexic computer! Tinted galls should be 'Tinted
> > Glass
> > All Round (necessary with air conditioning)'. Very interesting. Firstly,
> > does it mean the windscreen was tinted? Illegal in Australia and
> > probably
> > everywhere else as well. Also, necessary with air conditioning? I know
> > it
> > certainly helps but necessary?
> >
> > Ray Wilkins
> > Melbourne Australia
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> > On
> > Behalf Of gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, 17 March 2009 8:17 PM
> > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
> >
> > It was a very expensive car.
> > Which was at that time the price iof a Cadillac?
> >
> > And what is a " tinted gall" ?
> >
> > Best regards, Gianluca.
> >
> > -----Messaggio originale-----
> > Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> > Per
> > conto di Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton
> > Inviato: marted? 17 marzo 2009 1.16
> > A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> > Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S. Dollars
> >
> > >From the 1970 list suggested retail price at port of entry was $5,398
> >
> > A/c was $498, tinted galls was $49.50, heated rear window and rood rack
> > $49.00, anmd the radio was $100 (extra for installation)
> >
> > Hope this helps
> >
> > Aidrian
> >
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:29:40 -0400
> From: S Manwell <s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 3500S battery size?
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
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>
> Can anyone confirm the correct battery size or group number for a P6B
> 3500S (trunk / boot mounting)? I would like to get a new battery to
> take the next time I go to work on the car.
>
> So far I have one vote for Group 25, which -- according to Interstate --
> has dimensions of 9"L x 6 7/8" W x 8 3/4" H.
>
> --Steve Manwell
> >
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:45:52 -0400
> From: Patrick Hiron <phing at videotron.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 3500S battery size?
> To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'"
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> Henry
> I fitted a Group 47 with no problems
> Patrick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On
> Behalf Of S Manwell
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:30 AM
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 3500S battery size?
>
>
> Can anyone confirm the correct battery size or group number for a P6B
> 3500S (trunk / boot mounting)? I would like to get a new battery to
> take the next time I go to work on the car.
>
> So far I have one vote for Group 25, which -- according to Interstate --
> has dimensions of 9"L x 6 7/8" W x 8 3/4" H.
>
> --Steve Manwell
> >
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:03:09 -0700
> From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S.
> Dollars
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
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> My TC has tinted glass, and I have owned at least two others with
> tinted glass. None had AC
>
> Yours
> Vern
> On 17-Mar-09, at 6:04 AM, Kent Kinard wrote:
>
> > Hi Ray,
> > Tinted glass was "mandatory option" with A/C, meaning you had to
> > order the glass to get the A/C (so supposedly no NAS A/C cars were
> > produced without tinted glass.) This includes the tinted windscreen
> > which is not illegal here. Albert's NAS P6B w/o A/C (California
> > car) has tinted glass all around. All my NAS P6B's with A/C have
> > tinted glass. My 452 car (Series 2 RHD export) has tinted glass all
> > around but I doubt that it was original as the car is heavily
> > modified.
> > I'd be interested to know if anyone has a NAS P6B w/o AC that came
> > without tinted glass.
> >
> > Roverly,
> > Kent K.
> >
> > Ray Wilkins wrote:
> >> Adrian must have a dyslexic computer! Tinted galls should be
> >> 'Tinted Glass
> >> All Round (necessary with air conditioning)'. Very interesting.
> >> Firstly,
> >> does it mean the windscreen was tinted? Illegal in Australia and
> >> probably
> >> everywhere else as well. Also, necessary with air conditioning? I
> >> know it
> >> certainly helps but necessary?
> >>
> >> Ray Wilkins
> >> Melbourne Australia
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> >> ] On
> >> Behalf Of gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com
> >> Sent: Tuesday, 17 March 2009 8:17 PM
> >> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> >> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S.
> >> Dollars
> >>
> >> It was a very expensive car.
> >> Which was at that time the price iof a Cadillac?
> >>
> >> And what is a " tinted gall" ?
> >>
> >> Best regards, Gianluca.
> >> -----Messaggio originale-----
> >> Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-
> >> bounces at rovernet.ca] Per
> >> conto di Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton
> >> Inviato: marted? 17 marzo 2009 1.16
> >> A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> >> Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S in U.S.
> >> Dollars
> >>
> >> >From the 1970 list suggested retail price at port of entry was
> >> $5,398
> >>
> >> A/c was $498, tinted galls was $49.50, heated rear window and rood
> >> rack
> >> $49.00, anmd the radio was $100 (extra for installation)
> >>
> >> Hope this helps
> >>
> >> Aidrian
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:07:06 -0700
> From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 3500S battery size?
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Message-ID: <F0C4E90C-A2C0-460D-95A4-7BEA5A619B9C at inkspotco.com>
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>
> You can't get the "correct" size, as it is not in the current "group
> number system" in use today. I just measure the space and find the
> closest match. The group 25 rings a bell, but the last battery I
> bought was about 4 years ago, so memory is dim.
>
> Yours
> Vern
> On 17-Mar-09, at 6:29 AM, S Manwell wrote:
>
> >
> > Can anyone confirm the correct battery size or group number for a
> > P6B 3500S (trunk / boot mounting)? I would like to get a new
> > battery to take the next time I go to work on the car.
> >
> > So far I have one vote for Group 25, which -- according to
> > Interstate -- has dimensions of 9"L x 6 7/8" W x 8 3/4" H.
> >
> > --Steve Manwell
> >>
> >
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From sdibdin at hotmail.com Sun Mar 22 13:35:20 2009
From: sdibdin at hotmail.com (Hotmail)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:35:20 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front end alignment
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Hi All
I have got my TC back together after rebuilding the steering box. Now
that I have lighter steering I'm noticing that the steering pulls very
slighly to the right. My question is, does anyone have reccomendations
on what to look for in an alignment shop to deal with this?
Many thanks,
Steven
From kkinard at att.net Sun Mar 22 13:47:04 2009
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:47:04 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] NAS P6B w/o AC and no tinted glass
In-Reply-To: <COL111-DS236EDEA90B3364809E2C783940@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.24.1237302424.26510.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
<COL111-DS236EDEA90B3364809E2C783940@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <49C67998.2040808@att.net>
LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE wrote:
> Kent,
>
> My 1970 3500S was ordered for San Francisco, so no a/c was ordered. As a
> result the car has no tinted glass.
>
> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.
>
>
Thanks, Lance. That one.
Kent K.
From Paul.Smith at transend.com.au Sun Mar 22 17:06:32 2009
From: Paul.Smith at transend.com.au (Paul Smith)
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:06:32 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front end alignment
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Castor is likely to be less positive on that side.
Alternative is camber is positive there.
Stick to the book figure maximum for castor (0.5), and aim for 0 camber.
Shimming under the top arm mounts can fix minor amounts of either. You
should correct the spring lengths too if shimming, but that is hard.
PVS who has had bad alignment on TC
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Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front end alignment
Hi All
I have got my TC back together after rebuilding the steering box. Now
that I have lighter steering I'm noticing that the steering pulls very
slighly to the right. My question is, does anyone have reccomendations
on what to look for in an alignment shop to deal with this?
Many thanks,
Steven
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sun Mar 22 18:20:57 2009
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:20:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front end alignment
Message-ID: <596701.74795.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Steve,
Had that problem.
I bought a large spanner to fit the lock nut on the track rod ends. I loosened the nuts in my garage. I put "Never Seize" compound on the exposed threads. I tightened up the nuts and drove to my tire shop who also claimed to do "laser" alignment. I bought a photocopy of that section of the workshop manual that dealt with alignment, the spanner, and a very large pair of "Vice Grips (Mole grips)" to rotate the track rod as the alignment technician was adjusting the wheels for "toe-in".
His electronic equipment provided a before and after print-out of the alignment information. The final result was well within the technical specs.
Eric
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> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front end alignment
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 2:06 PM
> Castor is likely to be less positive
> on that side.
> Alternative is camber is positive there.
> Stick to the book figure maximum for castor (0.5), and aim
> for 0 camber.
> Shimming under the top arm mounts can fix minor amounts of
> either.? You
> should correct the spring lengths too if shimming, but that
> is hard.
>
> PVS who has had bad alignment on TC
>
>
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> that I have lighter steering I'm noticing that the steering
> pulls very?
> slighly to the right. My question is, does anyone have
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From ianalice at shaw.ca Mon Mar 23 00:00:22 2009
From: ianalice at shaw.ca (Alice and Ian Potts)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:00:22 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front end alignment
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Steve, I had a toe-out problem with a second-hand car and was able to
correct it by turning the tie bar after releasing the large lock nuts on the
tie-bar. But with the purchase of 2 long perfectly straight pieces of l" x
4" lumber, and laying each carefully on blocks adjacent to the wheels, it
was possible to measure the distances to the rim edges of the wheels for a
zero toe-in or toe-out. The full weight of the car must be on a level
surface (shop floor) and the front wheels, of course, in as near straight
ahead as possible. Get the picture? It worked for me without going to an
alignment shop, but cost lies in buying the lumber! Cheers, Ian Potts
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> Hi All
>
> I have got my TC back together after rebuilding the steering box. Now
> that I have lighter steering I'm noticing that the steering pulls very
> slighly to the right. My question is, does anyone have reccomendations
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From: sdibdin at hotmail.com (Hotmail)
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:20:58 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front end alignment
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Hi Paul
Thanks for the reply. I have set the tracking and i'm pretty sure it's
1/16" toe in as spec. I did wonder if the spring cushion on the right
hand side has broken down (I should check ride height on both sides)
do you think that would affect castor angle? Looking at the system I
thought maybe it could.
It I need to shim the top arm mounds on the baulkhead do you know a
source for the shims? If not I could make some I guess.
Cheers,
Steven
Steven Dibdin
Design Prototyping Manager
Smart Design
601 w26 St
Suite 1820
New York
NY 10001
eMail Steven.Dibdin at smartdesignworldwide.com
Cell: 862.684.1166
On Mar 22, 2009, at 17:06, "Paul Smith" <Paul.Smith at transend.com.au>
wrote:
> Castor is likely to be less positive on that side.
> Alternative is camber is positive there.
> Stick to the book figure maximum for castor (0.5), and aim for 0
> camber.
> Shimming under the top arm mounts can fix minor amounts of either.
> You
> should correct the spring lengths too if shimming, but that is hard.
>
> PVS who has had bad alignment on TC
>
>
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>
> Hi All
>
> I have got my TC back together after rebuilding the steering box. Now
> that I have lighter steering I'm noticing that the steering pulls very
> slighly to the right. My question is, does anyone have reccomendations
> on what to look for in an alignment shop to deal with this?
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> Many thanks,
>
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From MarkCoorparoo at aol.com Mon Mar 23 09:37:06 2009
From: MarkCoorparoo at aol.com (MarkCoorparoo at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:37:06 EDT
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front end alignment
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Hi All,
Was just trying to work out the "Pull to the Right", in those
Nations on the other side of the Pacific. Here in Oz., she's headed for the
centreline. I think Steven is in the Eastern Pacific, so she's headed for the kerb.
It is always just about impossible to get the Castors equal, so I used to
make the "error" on the side closest to the kerb, that is I would allow it to
be slightly more positive. This would tend to make the car try to drive up
the camber of the road.You can never get the Castors equal so this is the best
alternative.
However, before even taking the car to the suspension shop, make sure it
is not the tyres. Change the fronts from one side to the other and see if
that has an effect. P6's are an incredibly hard car to get right if the front
alignment is out. Toe in is not too hard but they look as though that was all
the factory intended to be adjusted. However because of the way the longitudinal
upper conrol arms bracket bolts to the firewall, Castor and Camber can also
be adjusted. Camber is easy once going this deep into the trim under the dash,
if I remember correctly (it has been over 30 years). Your thinnest shims can
make major changes to Camber on a P6.
Castor is a much bigger problem due to the amount of shims that have to
be added. Put some in, check it again, have another go, get the camber right
again. Four bolts (from Memory) each time and a bit of a "wrestle and lever"
with that upper control arm. I think from vague memory, I had to have a
helper, the spring was the "Wrestling Opponent". This usually happens because the
car has had a prang, hit from the side on a front wheel. Undiagnosed damage is
that the Firewall structure is probably bent.
A unique problem I woke up to in the era was that the pivot of the upper
control arm may be different from side to side. I think the only car I know of
that can have this problem is the P6. I had one come back after I spent hours
trying to get it right and I was sure it was right but the owner complained
that it was a Pig, under brakes, it was supposedly going all over the joint. I
had a discussion with the bloke and discovered that he only had the problem
bigtime when on the long windy road to his Suburb in the outer north of Sydney.
Seems he was cracking 105 MPH on the straights ( which was "Prima Facie"
legal back then in NSW).
So I took it for one of my favourite "Blats", down past a Girls School in
Cremorne, (the nearest Girls School to the Girls School where Elle MacPherson
went to School ), a suburban street where I had been over 90 mph, the P6b got
over 75, then approaching the next intersection I nailed the brakes to pull
her up. As the nose dropped, she just went all over the joint, as I tried to
correct the weirdness. A very strange car. I took it back to the workshop, put
it over the pit and had a deep and meaningfull discussion with the owner.
The owner then told me he had been in a rather large prang with the car
in the Sydney CBD. I was just a half reasonable front end mechanic in the
best place to be on the spanners in Oz at the time and this Guy was a fairly
serious Company Director. A mate of my Boss.
Apparently, he had been at an inner city intersection, when the lights
went green. Couldn't see to his right but the bus beside him took off in the turn
right lane, so he did too. Suddenly the Bus stopped, he couldn't stop as
quick and stuck his nose out in front, whereupon this XJ6 that had run the red
light took off most of his RHF corner. He also gave the back guard a bit of a
bang when it got spun into the bus. The Jag spun on down the road and was a real
mess. Knocked over a couple of traffic lights and hit a couple of other cars.
Win for the Poms - everyone opened the doors and stepped out.!!!
The Jag was a write off, the Rover wasn't quite but it had all sorts of
stuff replaced, including a cut and shut on the RHF lower A Pillar Firewall
Rail and sill for starters. When I went down to Neutral Bay and harrassed my
customers who had fixed the car, I discovered that the appys had done the job. I
had a big win there.
The kids had jigged the wreck up perfectly, picked away all the damaged
panels, removed the damaged RHF Rail, attached the new one and starting with a
new bit of firewall cut from a new part set about getting the windscreen
apperture right. Along with the doors and Bonnett. Wrong P6's are different.
When they Porta Powered the newly welded in bits of Firewall to meet up with
the A Pillar so the Windscreen would fit, they cocked the mounting points for
the upper arm over by about 15 -18 degrees.
So as you turned left at speed and the car heeled over, you got massive
under steer. Nail the brakes at high speed and it turned left. The outer end of
that upper arm was going to the outside as the suspension compressed. Lovely
car. This all from vague memory. I'm tired again.
Regards Mark Jones.
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From slatskars at comcast.net Mon Mar 23 11:28:56 2009
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:28:56 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front end alignment
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A very simple and inexpensive device can be made very easily to set toe-in or toe-out (front wheel drive). Simply take a piece of aluminum tubing or PVC pipe 3/8 to 1/2 inch inside diameter, cut it about a foot shorter than the distance between the wheels (inside). You will also need apiece of wooden dowel rod small enough to fit inside the tubing. Drill a small hole (1/8 inch)?in the tubing?in a location that will leave the dowel rod exposed enough to extend to reach the wheel rim allowing enough for the spring that will also be inserted?(not a critical measurement), insert a cotter pin through this hole. Drop a small coil spring (available at most any hardware store) into the tube. Insert the dowel rod, cut to the length that will fit the assembly between the wheel with spring tension. Install the device towards the rear of the wheels at the maximum height that you can without interfering with the frame. Measure the distance from the device to the ground for reference as you will use the same measurement later. Put a piece of masking tape around the exposed dowel near the end of the tubing, but leave enough dowel exposed to measure from the tubing should to the tape. Then roll the car forward until the device is at the same height above the ground as the previous measurement and again measure the distance from the tubing end to the tape. The difference is your top-in or toe-out. This device will probably cost you less than $5, stores easily and works like a charm.
Slats
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Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front end alignment
Hi Paul
Thanks for the reply. I have set the tracking and i'm pretty sure it's ?
1/16" toe in as spec. I did wonder if the spring cushion on the right ?
hand side has broken down (I should check ride height on both sides) ?
do you think that would affect castor angle? Looking at the system I ?
thought maybe it could.
It I need to shim the top arm mounds on the baulkhead do you know a ?
source for the shims? If not I could make some I guess.
Cheers,
Steven
Steven Dibdin
Design Prototyping Manager
Smart Design
601 w26 St
Suite 1820
New York
NY 10001
eMail Steven.Dibdin at smartdesignworldwide.com
Cell: 862.684.1166
On Mar 22, 2009, at 17:06, "Paul Smith" <Paul.Smith at transend.com.au> ?
wrote:
> Castor is likely to be less positive on that side.
> Alternative is camber is positive there.
> Stick to the book figure maximum for castor (0.5), and aim for 0 ?
> camber.
> Shimming under the top arm mounts can fix minor amounts of either. ?
> You
> should correct the spring lengths too if shimming, but that is hard.
>
> PVS who has had bad alignment on TC
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> ]
> On Behalf Of Hotmail
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> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front end alignment
>
> Hi All
>
> I have got my TC back together after rebuilding the steering box. Now
> that I have lighter steering I'm noticing that the steering pulls very
> slighly to the right. My question is, does anyone have reccomendations
> on what to look for in an alignment shop to deal with this?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Steven
>
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From TheOrganDoctor at aol.com Mon Mar 23 12:43:20 2009
From: TheOrganDoctor at aol.com (TheOrganDoctor at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:43:20 EDT
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Toe In
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I must be having a bad day 'cause I don't get this at all.
In a message dated 3/23/2009 12:00:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rovernet-request at rovernet.ca writes:
A very simple and inexpensive device can be made very easily to set toe-in or
toe-out (front wheel drive). Simply take a piece of aluminum tubing or PVC
pipe 3/8 to 1/2 inch inside diameter, cut it about a foot shorter than the
distance between the wheels (inside). You will also need apiece of wooden dowel rod
small enough to fit inside the tubing. Drill a small hole (1/8 inch)?in the
tubing?in a location that will leave the dowel rod exposed enough to extend to
reach the wheel rim allowing enough for the spring that will also be
inserted?(not a critical measurement), insert a cotter pin through this hole. Drop a
small coil spring (available at most any hardware store) into the tube. Insert
the dowel rod, cut to the length that will fit the assembly between the wheel
with spring tension. Install the device towards the rear of the wheels at the
maximum height that you can without interfering with the frame. Measure the
distance from the device to the ground for reference as you will use the same
measurement later. Put a piece of masking tape around the exposed dowel near the
end of the tubing, but leave enough dowel exposed to measure from the tubing
should to the tape. Then roll the car forward until the device is at the same
height above the ground as the previous measurement and again measure the
distance from the tubing end to the tape. The difference is your top-in or toe-out.
This device will probably cost you less than $5, stores easily and works like
a charm.
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From Paul.Smith at transend.com.au Mon Mar 23 17:13:01 2009
From: Paul.Smith at transend.com.au (Paul Smith)
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:13:01 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front end alignment
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It does affect it.
The castor goes slightly more positive as the suspension dives, and the
camber negative. However the effect is not as great as uneven tyre
pressures. I run mine at 33psi.
I have GMH Holden shims in my TC.
I'd reckon any older frontend shop would have them.
I can take a photo on the weekend if desired.
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Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front end alignment
Hi Paul
Thanks for the reply. I have set the tracking and i'm pretty sure it's
1/16" toe in as spec. I did wonder if the spring cushion on the right
hand side has broken down (I should check ride height on both sides)
do you think that would affect castor angle? Looking at the system I
thought maybe it could.
It I need to shim the top arm mounds on the baulkhead do you know a
source for the shims? If not I could make some I guess.
Cheers,
Steven
Steven Dibdin
Design Prototyping Manager
Smart Design
601 w26 St
Suite 1820
New York
NY 10001
eMail Steven.Dibdin at smartdesignworldwide.com
Cell: 862.684.1166
On Mar 22, 2009, at 17:06, "Paul Smith" <Paul.Smith at transend.com.au>
wrote:
> Castor is likely to be less positive on that side.
> Alternative is camber is positive there.
> Stick to the book figure maximum for castor (0.5), and aim for 0
> camber.
> Shimming under the top arm mounts can fix minor amounts of either.
> You
> should correct the spring lengths too if shimming, but that is hard.
>
> PVS who has had bad alignment on TC
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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[mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> ]
> On Behalf Of Hotmail
> Sent: Monday, 23 March 2009 4:35 AM
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front end alignment
>
> Hi All
>
> I have got my TC back together after rebuilding the steering box. Now
> that I have lighter steering I'm noticing that the steering pulls very
> slighly to the right. My question is, does anyone have reccomendations
> on what to look for in an alignment shop to deal with this?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Steven
>
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From Paul.Smith at transend.com.au Mon Mar 23 17:23:14 2009
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:23:14 +1100
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I forgot to say - if it pulls more under brakes then castor is 90%
likely as the problem.
If brakes make no difference, look at camber.
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Hi Paul
Thanks for the reply. I have set the tracking and i'm pretty sure it's
1/16" toe in as spec. I did wonder if the spring cushion on the right
hand side has broken down (I should check ride height on both sides)
do you think that would affect castor angle? Looking at the system I
thought maybe it could.
It I need to shim the top arm mounds on the baulkhead do you know a
source for the shims? If not I could make some I guess.
Cheers,
Steven
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On Mar 22, 2009, at 17:06, "Paul Smith" <Paul.Smith at transend.com.au>
wrote:
> Castor is likely to be less positive on that side.
> Alternative is camber is positive there.
> Stick to the book figure maximum for castor (0.5), and aim for 0
> camber.
> Shimming under the top arm mounts can fix minor amounts of either.
> You
> should correct the spring lengths too if shimming, but that is hard.
>
> PVS who has had bad alignment on TC
>
>
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> Hi All
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> I have got my TC back together after rebuilding the steering box. Now
> that I have lighter steering I'm noticing that the steering pulls very
> slighly to the right. My question is, does anyone have reccomendations
> on what to look for in an alignment shop to deal with this?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Steven
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From sdibdin at hotmail.com Mon Mar 23 18:32:56 2009
From: sdibdin at hotmail.com (Hotmail)
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:32:56 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front end alignment
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Hey Paul
Thanks for all the advice. I don't think it's caster as it doesn't
pull under braking any more than normal. I'm ashamed to say I haven't
checked tyre pressures yet. Now you mention it that should have been
my first thing along with swapping the front tyres.
I'll keep you posted as the adventure unfolds.
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On Mar 23, 2009, at 17:23, "Paul Smith" <Paul.Smith at transend.com.au>
wrote:
> I forgot to say - if it pulls more under brakes then castor is 90%
> likely as the problem.
> If brakes make no difference, look at camber.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> ]
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>
> Hi Paul
>
> Thanks for the reply. I have set the tracking and i'm pretty sure it's
> 1/16" toe in as spec. I did wonder if the spring cushion on the right
> hand side has broken down (I should check ride height on both sides)
> do you think that would affect castor angle? Looking at the system I
> thought maybe it could.
>
> It I need to shim the top arm mounds on the baulkhead do you know a
> source for the shims? If not I could make some I guess.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Steven
>
> Steven Dibdin
> Design Prototyping Manager
> Smart Design
> 601 w26 St
> Suite 1820
> New York
> NY 10001
> eMail Steven.Dibdin at smartdesignworldwide.com
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> On Mar 22, 2009, at 17:06, "Paul Smith" <Paul.Smith at transend.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> Castor is likely to be less positive on that side.
>> Alternative is camber is positive there.
>> Stick to the book figure maximum for castor (0.5), and aim for 0
>> camber.
>> Shimming under the top arm mounts can fix minor amounts of either.
>> You
>> should correct the spring lengths too if shimming, but that is hard.
>>
>> PVS who has had bad alignment on TC
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>>
>> Hi All
>>
>> I have got my TC back together after rebuilding the steering box. Now
>> that I have lighter steering I'm noticing that the steering pulls
>> very
>> slighly to the right. My question is, does anyone have
>> reccomendations
>> on what to look for in an alignment shop to deal with this?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
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From RoverP6 at gmx.de Mon Mar 23 18:37:53 2009
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:37:53 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P6 safety
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From slatskars at comcast.net Tue Mar 24 01:11:11 2009
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:11:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Toe In
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It is a tube with a spring loaded dowel inserted that is placed between the rims as far to the rear as you can place it. Measure the distance from the end of the tube to the piece of tape on the dowel and record it. Keep the tube?level and measure the distance from the tube to the ground so that when you roll the car back the tube will be at the same height for the second measurement of the tape to the end of the tube. Subtract one from the other and that is the amount of toe-in or toe-out that you have. The device stays in place until the second measurement is completed or you make an adjustment.
Slats
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I must be having a bad day 'cause I don't get this at all.
In a message dated 3/23/2009 12:00:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rovernet-request at rovernet.ca writes:
A very simple and inexpensive device can be made very easily to set toe-in or toe-out (front wheel drive). Simply take a piece of aluminum tubing or PVC pipe 3/8 to 1/2 inch inside diameter, cut it about a foot shorter than the distance between the wheels (inside). You will also need apiece of wooden dowel rod small enough to fit inside the tubing. Drill a small hole (1/8 inch)?in the tubing?in a location that will leave the dowel rod exposed enough to extend to reach the wheel rim allowing enough for the spring that will also be inserted?(not a critical measurement), insert a cotter pin through this hole. Drop a small coil spring (available at most any hardware store) into the tube. Insert the dowel rod, cut to the length that will fit the assembly between the wheel with spring tension. Install the device towards the rear of the wheels at the maximum height that you can without interfering with the frame. Measure the distance from the device to the ground for reference as you will use the same measurement later. Put a piece of masking tape around the exposed dowel near the end of the tubing, but leave enough dowel exposed to measure from the tubing should to the tape. Then roll the car forward until the device is at the same height above the ground as the previous measurement and again measure the distance from the tubing end to the tape. The difference is your top-in or toe-out. This device will probably cost you less than $5, stores easily and works like a charm.
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Tue Mar 24 05:12:57 2009
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:12:57 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover P6 safety
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Thanks, Rudiger.
What we all know is still incredible thinking back to the cars of the sixties.
I will foreward it to the friends of registro italiano Rover.
Best regards, Gianluca.
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Mar 24 14:09:00 2009
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:09:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover P6 safety
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Good one, Rudiger and Gianluca.
I have added it to our list of YouTube videos:
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> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover P6 safety
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> Received: Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 2:12 AM
> Thanks, Rudiger.
>
> What we all know is still incredible thinking back to the
> cars of the sixties.
>
> I will foreward it to the friends of registro italiano
> Rover.
>
> Best regards, Gianluca.
>
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> Per conto di RoverP6 at gmx.de
> Inviato: luned? 23 marzo 2009 23.38
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>
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From RoverP6 at gmx.de Tue Mar 24 14:22:37 2009
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:22:37 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover P6 safety
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Good idea, Eric !
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Good one, Rudiger and Gianluca.
I have added it to our list of YouTube videos:
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> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover P6 safety
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Received: Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 2:12 AM
> Thanks, Rudiger.
>
> What we all know is still incredible thinking back to the
> cars of the sixties.
>
> I will foreward it to the friends of registro italiano
> Rover.
>
> Best regards, Gianluca.
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
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> Per conto di RoverP6 at gmx.de
> Inviato: luned? 23 marzo 2009 23.38
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From RoverP6 at gmx.de Tue Mar 24 14:32:04 2009
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:32:04 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover P6 safety
References: <492049.21782.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<08BC82FFBFCF44CFB9A992564E7770C2@rw>
Message-ID: <CF961B0D9E444969BAB992BE178D1037@rw>
By the way:
I really like THIS vid clip - enjoy :-))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWzQQdpgq0g&feature=channel
Rudiger
-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: <RoverP6 at gmx.de>
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<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. M?rz 2009 19:22
Betreff: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover P6 safety
Good idea, Eric !
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info
-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
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An: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. M?rz 2009 19:09
Betreff: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover P6 safety
Good one, Rudiger and Gianluca.
I have added it to our list of YouTube videos:
http://www.roverclub.ca/p6utubemovies.htm
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--- On Tue, 3/24/09, gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com
<gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com> wrote:
> From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover P6 safety
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Received: Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 2:12 AM
> Thanks, Rudiger.
>
> What we all know is still incredible thinking back to the
> cars of the sixties.
>
> I will foreward it to the friends of registro italiano
> Rover.
>
> Best regards, Gianluca.
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> Per conto di RoverP6 at gmx.de
> Inviato: luned? 23 marzo 2009 23.38
> A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P6 safety
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rYfXkJmzuw&feature=related
>
>
> Rudiger
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Mar 24 20:03:10 2009
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:03:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT Test
Message-ID: <571564.67220.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Mar 24 20:07:00 2009
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:07:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet messages?
Message-ID: <96655.38516.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Strange thing....
I haven't read recent messages from Rudiger in my usual email inbox for the Rovernet. However, I can see the messages in the archive.
Has anyone else not received messages from Rudiger dated March 23?
Has anyone received his messages?
Going mad - just checking.
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From hhstubbs at shaw.ca Tue Mar 24 23:04:49 2009
From: hhstubbs at shaw.ca (Harold Stubbs)
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:04:49 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet messages?
In-Reply-To: <96655.38516.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <96655.38516.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <F17E79CE-F150-4D56-958C-9CA30B7DBA33@shaw.ca>
Hi Eric how are you feeling? Did you take that holiday that you
where planning to take with Linda?
Thanks Harold.
On 24-Mar-09, at 5:07 PM, Eric Russell wrote:
>
> Strange thing....
> I haven't read recent messages from Rudiger in my usual email inbox
> for the Rovernet. However, I can see the messages in the archive.
>
> Has anyone else not received messages from Rudiger dated March 23?
> Has anyone received his messages?
>
> Going mad - just checking.
>
> Eric
>
>
>
>
> Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada
> Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Mar 24 23:16:24 2009
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:16:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet messages?
Message-ID: <42883.35422.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
I think I'll reply offline. Great to see you on the Rovernet, though.
Eric
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--- On Tue, 3/24/09, Harold Stubbs <h
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Mar 24 23:16:26 2009
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:16:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet messages?
Message-ID: <800517.91620.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
I think I'll reply offline. Great to see you on the Rovernet, though.
Eric
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--- On Tue, 3/24/09, Harold Stubbs <hhstubbs at shaw.ca> wrote:
> From: Harold Stubbs <hhstubbs at shaw.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet messages?
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 8:04 PM
> Hi Eric how are you feeling??
> Did you take that holiday that you where planning to take
> with Linda?
>
> Thanks Harold.
>
>
> On 24-Mar-09, at 5:07 PM, Eric Russell wrote:
>
> >
> > Strange thing....
> > I haven't read recent messages from Rudiger in my
> usual email inbox for the Rovernet.? However, I can see
> the messages in the archive.
> >
> > Has anyone else not received messages from Rudiger
> dated March 23?
> > Has anyone received his messages?
> >
> > Going mad - just checking.
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada
> > Website:? http://www.roverclub.ca/
> > Webmaster of a variety of sites from:
> > http://www.websrus.ca
> >
> >
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Mar 24 23:26:58 2009
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (p6rovers at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:26:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet multiples
Message-ID: <59726.98460.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Is anyone else getting duplicate messages in addition to a correspondent back east and myself? (Not that I know what to do about that :-(
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From Paul.Smith at transend.com.au Tue Mar 24 23:28:39 2009
From: Paul.Smith at transend.com.au (Paul Smith)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:28:39 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet multiples
In-Reply-To: <59726.98460.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <59726.98460.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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No.
Haven't joined Rovernet with 2 mail accounts?
PVS
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Sent: Wednesday, 25 March 2009 2:27 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet multiples
Is anyone else getting duplicate messages in addition to a correspondent back east and myself? (Not that I know what to do about that :-(
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Mar 24 23:58:53 2009
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:58:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test multiples (using Firefox)
Message-ID: <254802.20792.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Changed my browser.
Checking for duplicate messages from me to the list.
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Wed Mar 25 07:35:43 2009
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:35:43 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: R: Rover P6 safety
In-Reply-To: <CF961B0D9E444969BAB992BE178D1037@rw>
References: <492049.21782.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com><08BC82FFBFCF44CFB9A992564E7770C2@rw>
<CF961B0D9E444969BAB992BE178D1037@rw>
Message-ID: <AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A01CB01D6@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel>
Dear Eric, dear Rudiger, thanks.
Best regards, Gianluca.
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di RoverP6 at gmx.de
Inviato: marted? 24 marzo 2009 19.32
A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover P6 safety
By the way:
I really like THIS vid clip - enjoy :-))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWzQQdpgq0g&feature=channel
Rudiger
-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: <RoverP6 at gmx.de>
An: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. M?rz 2009 19:22
Betreff: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover P6 safety
Good idea, Eric !
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info
-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
An: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. M?rz 2009 19:09
Betreff: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover P6 safety
Good one, Rudiger and Gianluca.
I have added it to our list of YouTube videos:
http://www.roverclub.ca/p6utubemovies.htm
Eric
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--- On Tue, 3/24/09, gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com
<gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com> wrote:
> From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover P6 safety
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Received: Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 2:12 AM
> Thanks, Rudiger.
>
> What we all know is still incredible thinking back to the
> cars of the sixties.
>
> I will foreward it to the friends of registro italiano
> Rover.
>
> Best regards, Gianluca.
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> Per conto di RoverP6 at gmx.de
> Inviato: luned? 23 marzo 2009 23.38
> A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P6 safety
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rYfXkJmzuw&feature=related
>
>
> Rudiger
> www.RoverP6.info
>
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From lewill at ctcweb.net Wed Mar 25 07:48:50 2009
From: lewill at ctcweb.net (larry)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 05:48:50 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet multiples
References: <59726.98460.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001e01c9ad3f$bbc7fb00$4001a8c0@hewlett2n8fn74>
Eric, I get two messages that are the same all the time. Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:26 PM
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet multiples
Is anyone else getting duplicate messages in addition to a correspondent
back east and myself? (Not that I know what to do about that :-(
Eric
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From magnet at roverclub.org Wed Mar 25 07:58:35 2009
From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:58:35 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet multiples
In-Reply-To: <001e01c9ad3f$bbc7fb00$4001a8c0@hewlett2n8fn74>
References: <59726.98460.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<001e01c9ad3f$bbc7fb00$4001a8c0@hewlett2n8fn74>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP144E7EFC2E48C511A88EA991900@phx.gbl>
Same here. Have done for a couple of years. Don't think I have dupl.
subcriptions...
Cheers,
-- Bill D.
=========================================
larry wrote:
> Eric, I get two messages that are the same all the time. Larry
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:26 PM
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet multiples
>
>
>
> Is anyone else getting duplicate messages in addition to a
> correspondent back east and myself? (Not that I know what to do about
> that :-(
> Eric
>
> Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada
> Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/
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>
>
>
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From mark.brown.rover at gmail.com Wed Mar 25 08:03:08 2009
From: mark.brown.rover at gmail.com (Mark Brown)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:03:08 -0300
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet multiples
In-Reply-To: <59726.98460.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <59726.98460.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B6A4315B-8D9B-4748-A2F1-AE73E7C48078@gmail.com>
I only get one copy of each message.
Mark Brown
On 25-Mar-09, at 12:26 AM, p6rovers at yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Is anyone else getting duplicate messages in addition to a
> correspondent back east and myself? (Not that I know what to do
> about that :-(
> Eric
>
> Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada
> Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/
> Webmaster of a variety of sites from:
> http://www.websrus.ca
>
>
>
>
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From RoverP6 at gmx.de Wed Mar 25 08:21:11 2009
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:21:11 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet multiples
References: <59726.98460.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<B6A4315B-8D9B-4748-A2F1-AE73E7C48078@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F013014EF762466EBD482D9CFB0A0D33@rw>
Same here
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info
-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: "Mark Brown" <mark.brown.rover at gmail.com>
An: <p6rovers at yahoo.com>; "The original list for Rover car
enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 25. M?rz 2009 13:03
Betreff: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet multiples
>I only get one copy of each message.
>
> Mark Brown
>
>
From lingfield51 at btinternet.com Wed Mar 25 08:26:18 2009
From: lingfield51 at btinternet.com (JULIET KEILER)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:26:18 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet multiples
In-Reply-To: <F013014EF762466EBD482D9CFB0A0D33@rw>
References: <59726.98460.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<B6A4315B-8D9B-4748-A2F1-AE73E7C48078@gmail.com>
<F013014EF762466EBD482D9CFB0A0D33@rw>
Message-ID: <197538.90486.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Me Too
Alan Francis (partviking)
________________________________
From: "RoverP6 at gmx.de" <RoverP6 at gmx.de>
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, 25 March, 2009 12:21:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet multiples
Same here
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info
-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: "Mark Brown" <mark.brown.rover at gmail.com>
An: <p6rovers at yahoo.com>; "The original list for Rover car
enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 25. M?rz 2009 13:03
Betreff: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet multiples
>I only get one copy of each message.
>
> Mark Brown
>
>
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From sdibdin at hotmail.com Wed Mar 25 08:26:39 2009
From: sdibdin at hotmail.com (Steven Dibdin)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:26:39 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet multiples
In-Reply-To: <F013014EF762466EBD482D9CFB0A0D33@rw>
References: <59726.98460.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<B6A4315B-8D9B-4748-A2F1-AE73E7C48078@gmail.com>
<F013014EF762466EBD482D9CFB0A0D33@rw>
Message-ID: <BAY106-W36E03EE2797AFF3D65832EB0900@phx.gbl>
I'm only getting one copy of each message. But I'm not getting Eric's mails at all. He's not even showing up in my junk folder...
From jLewis at wsscwater.com Wed Mar 25 08:38:26 2009
From: jLewis at wsscwater.com (Lewis, Joseph (Michael))
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:38:26 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet multiples
In-Reply-To: <59726.98460.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <59726.98460.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1A1EBE4A9FAEEB42911D577E08CA792204D1B983@COB-EXV-01.wssc.ad.root>
I only get one message.
J. Michael Lewis
jlewis at wsscwater.com
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of p6rovers at yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 11:27 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet multiples
Is anyone else getting duplicate messages in addition to a correspondent back east and myself? (Not that I know what to do about that :-(
Eric
Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada
Website:? http://www.roverclub.ca/
Webmaster of a variety of sites from:
http://www.websrus.ca
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Wed Mar 25 11:08:01 2009
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:08:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Multiple message survey - thanks
Message-ID: <663248.34597.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Thanks to all to participated in my multiple message survey.
I *believe* that my multiple message problem was generated by my use of the browser, Safari for Windows, in order to read and send Rovernet messages.
When I clicked "Send", the URL window had a blue bar which *very* slowly moved across the URL. When it sometimes stopped, I pressed the "Enter" key and perhaps that helped create a duplication. (This slowness occurred with other uses of the browser.)
I have switched back to Firefox and it works almost instantly.
I hope that that will stop some people receiving duplicate messages.
Fingers crossed ....... :-)
Eric
Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada
Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/
Webmaster of a variety of sites from:
http://www.websrus.ca
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From slatskars at comcast.net Wed Mar 25 13:13:55 2009
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:13:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Multiple message survey - thanks
In-Reply-To: <663248.34597.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <821326011.1158681238001235703.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
I had this problem several years ago. It was my computer not the senders.
Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 8:08:01 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Multiple message survey - thanks
Thanks to all to participated in my multiple message survey.
I *believe* that my multiple message problem was generated by my use of the browser, Safari for Windows, in order to read and send Rovernet messages.
When I clicked "Send", the URL window had a blue bar which *very* slowly moved across the URL. When it sometimes stopped, I pressed the "Enter" key and perhaps that helped create a duplication. (This slowness occurred with other uses of the browser.)
I have switched back to Firefox and it works almost instantly.
I hope that that will stop some people receiving duplicate messages.
Fingers crossed ....... :-)
Eric
Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada
Website: ?http://www.roverclub.ca/
Webmaster of a variety of sites from:
http://www.websrus.ca
?? ? ?__________________________________________________________________
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From scottsoldautorubber at bigpond.com.au Thu Mar 26 00:47:06 2009
From: scottsoldautorubber at bigpond.com.au (Scott's Old Auto Rubber)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:47:06 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet multiples
Message-ID: <35DE980E31CF47B49EDB9190D7E0B929@userpc>
We have been getting duplicates for a long time.
Thankyou,
Scott.
www.scottsoldautorubber.com.au
Open 9 - 5.00 Monday to Friday.
Closed Saturday and Sunday.
Automotive Rubber and Seals for Many Makes and Models,
P.O. Box 107 (12 Haughton Road) Oakleigh, Melbourne 3166, Australia.
Phone and Fax: + 61- 3 - 9563 3023
http://www.xe.net/pca/ (Currency Converter)
Eric, I get two messages that are the same all the time. Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:26 PM
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet multiples
Is anyone else getting duplicate messages in addition to a correspondent
back east and myself? (Not that I know what to do about that :-(
Eric
Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada
Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/
Webmaster of a variety of sites from:
http://www.websrus.ca
__________________________________________________________________
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Mail: http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/newmail/overview2/
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From vern at inkspotco.com Thu Mar 26 01:02:38 2009
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:02:38 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet multiples
In-Reply-To: <35DE980E31CF47B49EDB9190D7E0B929@userpc>
References: <35DE980E31CF47B49EDB9190D7E0B929@userpc>
Message-ID: <8C7CBBF7-528E-40D2-B494-961DD4926FFA@inkspotco.com>
I, on the other hand, have not. The Black Forest awaits!
Yours
Vern
On 25-Mar-09, at 9:47 PM, Scott's Old Auto Rubber wrote:
> We have been getting duplicates for a long time.
> Thankyou,
> Scott.
>
> www.scottsoldautorubber.com.au Open 9 - 5.00 Monday to Friday.
> Closed Saturday and Sunday.
> Automotive Rubber and Seals for Many Makes and Models,
> P.O. Box 107 (12 Haughton Road) Oakleigh, Melbourne 3166, Australia.
> Phone and Fax: + 61- 3 - 9563 3023
> http://www.xe.net/pca/ (Currency Converter)
>
> Eric, I get two messages that are the same all the time. Larry -----
> Original Message ----- From: <p6rovers at yahoo.com> To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:26 PM Subject: [Rovernet -
> INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet multiples Is anyone else getting duplicate
> messages in addition to a correspondent back east and myself? (Not
> that I know what to do about that :-( Eric Webmaster of The Rover
> Car Club of Canada Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ Webmaster of a
> variety of sites from: http://www.websrus.ca
> __________________________________________________________________
> Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new
> Yahoo! Mail: http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/newmail/overview2/
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From RoverP6 at gmx.de Thu Mar 26 10:48:06 2009
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:48:06 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Search for Garry Kerr from NZ
References: <492049.21782.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com><08BC82FFBFCF44CFB9A992564E7770C2@rw><CF961B0D9E444969BAB992BE178D1037@rw>
<AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A01CB01D6@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel>
Message-ID: <7488F96C11F44818BAD947345965A8A8@rw>
Is this gentleman (owner of a Rover P6 3500) on Rovernet?
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info
From gharrower200 at gmail.com Fri Mar 27 23:44:41 2009
From: gharrower200 at gmail.com (Gordon Harrower)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:44:41 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Oil Filter for P5
Message-ID: <a8e2d8ce0903272044x3f69b154w2e8cf3ffa5413843@mail.gmail.com>
Is the oil filter (paper element) used in the P5 and Land Rover 2.6 used in
any more-common cars? I can order one, but I'm wondering if it might be
possible to find one locally (i.e. quickly) if an MG or something shares it.
Thanks, Gordon.
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From flemna at yahoo.ca Sat Mar 28 00:44:31 2009
From: flemna at yahoo.ca (Fred Lemna)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:44:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Oil Filter for P5
Message-ID: <209148.72629.qm@web38503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
A comparable is found in Baldwin P188, a well-designed and constructed crossover oil filter. Although Baldwin no longer makes this filter,
NOS seems to be available from Filter-Fab (931.526.3146), for $7.76 (American) with an minimum order of 12. It must be a
Baldwin filter that you order, as other "crossovers"manufacturers attached to P188 are not comparable.
________________________________
From: Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com>
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 8:44:41 PM
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Oil Filter for P5
Is the oil filter (paper element) used in the P5 and Land Rover 2.6 used in any more-common cars? I can order one, but I'm wondering if it might be possible to find one locally (i.e. quickly) if an MG or something shares it.
Thanks, Gordon.
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From travellak1 at netzero.net Sat Mar 28 00:52:41 2009
From: travellak1 at netzero.net (Linus Tremaine)
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 04:52:41 GMT
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Oil Filter for P5
Message-ID: <20090327.215241.26476.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com>
Gordon,
I have tried this many times myself. I ordered one once and it came in a fram box. So, I went to the auto parts store armed with a fram part number and still couldnt get one. I have given up trying to find one, but maybe someone smarter than me has had better luck.
these part numbers are listed as alternates on teriann wakemans land rover page:
Fram ch853pl
napa 1315
wix 51315-- i know for a fact that this one is wrong.
the land rover book lists the filter as ACff24
I believe the crossland part number is 422
Land rover parts suppliers list it as RTC3183
Good luck!
Linus Tremaine
67 land rover NADA #601
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From RoverP6 at gmx.de Sat Mar 28 04:54:28 2009
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:54:28 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Some Rover photos on Flickr
References: <492049.21782.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com><08BC82FFBFCF44CFB9A992564E7770C2@rw><CF961B0D9E444969BAB992BE178D1037@rw><AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A01CB01D6@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel>
<7488F96C11F44818BAD947345965A8A8@rw>
Message-ID: <EB2CA229A4934BE194C671864729A3D3@rw>
http://www.flickr.com/groups/rovercars/pool/
Rudiger
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From MarkCoorparoo at aol.com Sat Mar 28 09:57:42 2009
From: MarkCoorparoo at aol.com (MarkCoorparoo at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:57:42 EDT
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front end alignment
Message-ID: <bed.39cdd1a8.36ff86d6@aol.com>
Ian, Steve and all,
I, once in desperation, at about 3.30 am on a
Sunday morning (Saturday Night ? ), on the third consequetive "All-Nighter",
was with a crew that was running what was probably the best Mini Sports Sedan
in NSW at the time. After Saturday practise, we all finished up back in the
workshop trying to solve the problem of Oil Surge, on the straights. We learnt
what was causing it later on that sunday.
However, during the engine out time, we also changed the front sub frame
back from an experimental setup to a conventional Brick rubber setup. We
changed the Sub Frames. Big Night. Approaching 3.00am I was handed the job of
setting up the chassis.
So, I have this tottally stuffed crew trying to level and square this car
and I didn't have any of my regurlar gear.
With a couple of spirit levels, four jack stands and string lines (like
a F5000 frame), a steel ruler and a kids school protractor that we found all
the angles within half an hour and was out of the joint by 4 am.
Back at 9am. we missed the Oil Surge cause, the car went briliantly for
18 laps of a 20 lap race and then blew its gear box to bits. That wrecked the
engine as well. Anybody who as ever had a Brick engine in bits will
understand.
Started this reply about tuesday night, truck time got in the way. Must
read the rest of the reponces and then reply further.
Key, when setting Toe-In, just make sure that the steering box is on
centre. Burnt out try to finish tomorrow.
Regards,
Mark Jones.
P.S. My friend Christine, secretary of the Morris Minors, has invited me
to their Annual Aussie event at Southbank here in Bris., at Easter, if anyone
is interested.
MWJ.
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From gharrower200 at gmail.com Sat Mar 28 10:00:48 2009
From: gharrower200 at gmail.com (Gordon Harrower)
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:00:48 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Oil Filter for P5
In-Reply-To: <20090327.215241.26476.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com>
References: <20090327.215241.26476.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <a8e2d8ce0903280700p15c6cb77v9e6a43f1ab45dc90@mail.gmail.com>
Thanks all. I'll go foraging today and see what I can find, order one just
to be safe.
Gordon.
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Linus Tremaine <travellak1 at netzero.net>wrote:
> Gordon,
> I have tried this many times myself. I ordered one once and it came in a
> fram box. So, I went to the auto parts store armed with a fram part number
> and still couldnt get one. I have given up trying to find one, but maybe
> someone smarter than me has had better luck.
>
> these part numbers are listed as alternates on teriann wakemans land rover
> page:
>
> Fram ch853pl
> napa 1315
> wix 51315-- i know for a fact that this one is wrong.
>
> the land rover book lists the filter as ACff24
>
> I believe the crossland part number is 422
> Land rover parts suppliers list it as RTC3183
>
>
> Good luck!
>
> Linus Tremaine
> 67 land rover NADA #601
>
> ____________________________________________________________
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From veetwinrider at yahoo.com Sat Mar 28 10:47:11 2009
From: veetwinrider at yahoo.com (roland)
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:47:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Oil Filter for P5
In-Reply-To: <a8e2d8ce0903280700p15c6cb77v9e6a43f1ab45dc90@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <989062.57152.qm@web180512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Gordon, they still list it on the Baldwin site.
http://www.bfwebexpress.com/catalog.asp
Good luck.
roland
--- On Sat, 3/28/09, Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com> wrote:
From: Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Oil Filter for P5
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Date: Saturday, March 28, 2009, 7:00 AM
Thanks all.? I'll go foraging today and see what I can find, order one just to be safe.?
Gordon.
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Linus Tremaine <travellak1 at netzero.net> wrote:
Gordon,
I have tried this many times myself. I ordered one once and it came in a fram box. So, I went to the auto parts store armed with a fram part number and still couldnt get one. I have given up trying to find one, but maybe someone smarter than me has had better luck.
these part numbers are listed as alternates on teriann wakemans land rover page:
Fram ch853pl
napa 1315
wix 51315-- i know for a fact that this one is wrong.
the land rover book lists the filter as ACff24
I believe the crossland part number is 422
Land rover parts suppliers list it as RTC3183
Good luck!
Linus Tremaine
67 land rover NADA #601
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From drnaramata at yahoo.com Mon Mar 30 01:11:03 2009
From: drnaramata at yahoo.com (Gatrell David)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:11:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Oil Filter for P5
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Message-ID: <676325.61578.qm@web65503.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
Following this thread I Googled Baldwin Filter. Under "contact us" I filled in their form to request they contact me when they have P 188 filters in stock. I have just one left on my shelf and I will put it in soon. When I tried to re-order a month or so ago I was told they are no longer available. Possibly if several of us on this list put in a similar request Baldwin will set up and do a run.
David
1965 Mk IIc
From Pjemail at aol.com Tue Mar 31 03:23:54 2009
From: Pjemail at aol.com (Pjemail at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:23:54 EDT
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Oil Filter for P5
Message-ID: <c6b.5158a05b.37031f0a@aol.com>
Dear Gordon,
I don't think any other vehicles use this filter than the Rover/Land Rover
models.
Regards,
Pierre
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Mar 31 13:04:34 2009
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:04:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 8 Question
Message-ID: <468662.67395.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
We received the following question from a person writing an article for AutoWeek.
If you can comment on his question, I will forward your answers.
Eric
**************************************************
Hello,
My name is Nick Kurczewski. I'm an automotive journalist, presently working on a story for AutoWeek magazine (USA) about a 1923 air-cooled Rover 8. I got to drive the car in India, of all places, and simply need a little additional information from experts (i.e. you) to complete the article. Hope you'll be able to help with 2 quick questions:
--What was the price of a Rover 8 circa 1923?
--And what might be the value of the car today?
Any and all insight you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! And I'll be sure to ask AutoWeek to mail you a copy of the magazine once the story is published.
Sincerely,
Nick Kurczewski
Automotive Journalist
Paris, France
Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada
Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/
Webmaster of a variety of sites from:
http://www.websrus.ca
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From lafbery at telus.net Tue Mar 31 14:16:25 2009
From: lafbery at telus.net (Barry & Shirley Lafbery)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:16:25 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 8 Question
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References: <468662.67395.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6BB6C77603524DD383F930109D816FBC@ChloePC>
Hi Eric,
The 193 Rover 8 cost 220 ukp, special paint work was another
5ukp, side curtains to a hood cost 3ukp and a flush fitting speedometer cost
7ukp.
as cost now, no idea, I think Dirk burrows bought one from australia.
Hope this helps
Barry
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 8 Question
>
>
> We received the following question from a person writing an article for
> AutoWeek.
>
> If you can comment on his question, I will forward your answers.
>
> Eric
>
> **************************************************
> Hello,
>
> My name is Nick Kurczewski. I'm an automotive journalist, presently
> working on a story for AutoWeek magazine (USA) about a 1923 air-cooled
> Rover 8. I got to drive the car in India, of all places, and simply need
> a little additional information from experts (i.e. you) to complete the
> article. Hope you'll be able to help with 2 quick questions:
>
> --What was the price of a Rover 8 circa 1923?
> --And what might be the value of the car today?
>
> Any and all insight you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
> And I'll be sure to ask AutoWeek to mail you a copy of the magazine once
> the story is published.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Nick Kurczewski
> Automotive Journalist
> Paris, France
> Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada
> Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/
> Webmaster of a variety of sites from:
> http://www.websrus.ca
>
>
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From phing at videotron.ca Tue Mar 31 22:40:15 2009
From: phing at videotron.ca (Patrick Hiron)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:40:15 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 8 Question
In-Reply-To: <468662.67395.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <468662.67395.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c9b273$306c31f0$914495d0$@ca>
Hi Eric
I remember taking part in a " 100years of the British Automobile Rally in
Mumbai several years ago . I was a passenger in a Rover 8. The car performed
splendidly on a very hot , humid day when many more modern cars overheated
climbing steep hills in heavy traffic . The air cooled engine never missed a
beat , although the exhaust pipes glowed cherry red at times. I can forward
some pictures of the Rover to Nick if he needs them
The coming of the Austin 7, a much more advanced and cheaper small car ,
spelled the end for this Rover and other British " light cars"
Cheers
Patrick
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Eric Russell
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:05 PM
To: INTERNATIONAL Rovernet
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 8 Question
We received the following question from a person writing an article for
AutoWeek.
If you can comment on his question, I will forward your answers.
Eric
**************************************************
Hello,
My name is Nick Kurczewski. I'm an automotive journalist, presently working
on a story for AutoWeek magazine (USA) about a 1923 air-cooled Rover 8. I
got to drive the car in India, of all places, and simply need a little
additional information from experts (i.e. you) to complete the article.
Hope you'll be able to help with 2 quick questions:
--What was the price of a Rover 8 circa 1923?
--And what might be the value of the car today?
Any and all insight you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
And I'll be sure to ask AutoWeek to mail you a copy of the magazine once the
story is published.
Sincerely,
Nick Kurczewski
Automotive Journalist
Paris, France
Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada
Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/
Webmaster of a variety of sites from:
http://www.websrus.ca
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Mar 31 23:43:06 2009
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:43:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 8 Question
Message-ID: <813952.26730.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Thanks Patrick.
I have also forwarded your message to Nick.
Eric
Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada
Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/
Webmaster of a variety of sites from:
http://www.websrus.ca
--- On Tue, 3/31/09, Patrick Hiron <phing at videotron.ca> wrote:
> From: Patrick Hiron <phing at videotron.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 8 Question
> To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 7:40 PM
> Hi Eric
> I remember taking part in a " 100years of the British
> Automobile Rally in
> Mumbai several years ago . I was a passenger in a Rover 8.
> The car performed
> splendidly on a very hot , humid day when many more modern
> cars overheated
> climbing steep hills in heavy traffic . The air cooled
> engine never missed a
> beat , although the exhaust pipes glowed cherry red at
> times. I can forward
> some pictures of the Rover to Nick if he needs them
> The coming of the Austin 7, a much more advanced and
> cheaper small car ,
> spelled the end for this Rover and other British "
> light? cars"
> Cheers?
> Patrick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On
> Behalf Of Eric Russell
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:05 PM
> To: INTERNATIONAL Rovernet
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 8 Question
>
>
> We received the following question from a person writing an
> article for
> AutoWeek.
>
> If you can comment on his question, I will forward your
> answers.
>
> Eric
>
> **************************************************
> Hello,
>
> My name is Nick Kurczewski.? I'm an automotive
> journalist, presently working
> on a story for AutoWeek magazine (USA) about a 1923
> air-cooled Rover 8.? I
> got to drive the car in India, of all places, and simply
> need a little
> additional information from experts (i.e. you) to complete
> the article.
> Hope you'll be able to help with 2 quick questions:
>
> --What was the price of a Rover 8 circa 1923?
> --And what might be the value of the car today?
>
> Any and all insight you can provide would be greatly
> appreciated.? Thanks!
> And I'll be sure to ask AutoWeek to mail you a copy of the
> magazine once the
> story is published.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Nick Kurczewski
> Automotive Journalist
> Paris, France
> Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada
> Website:? http://www.roverclub.ca/
> Webmaster of a variety of sites from:
> http://www.websrus.ca
>
>
> ? ? ?
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