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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Jun 2 22:03:43 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 19:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Our ad: SD1 for sale in Redondo Beach Message-ID: <250862.99245.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, again: We have an ad for an SD1 on our website. Until just now, there was an email address error on the main "For Sale" website where a hotlink was wrongly set. If you had been trying to contact the vendor, I have corrected the error. This ad is now correct: ******************************************************** 1980 Rover SD1, 5 speed manual stickshift The web album is also here: CLICK Located in Rodondo Beach, Calif Contact seller, Tom Davies, at oobrit at aol.com OR telephone at: 888-321-7768 ****************************************************** Eric Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ Webmaster of a variety of sites from: http://www.websrus.ca __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. From rovercar at comcast.net Thu Jun 4 16:38:32 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:38:32 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Spam In-Reply-To: <4E94594F88BD40459521A0458A919476@Vista> References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com> <E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw> <4E94594F88BD40459521A0458A919476@Vista> Message-ID: <4A2830C8.9070405@comcast.net> Eric, Please let Carlin H. Freeberg know that someone is spamming Rovernet members with low-brow political conspiracy-theorist emails using his email address as sender. Presumably, someone has hacked into his files in order to misuse Rovernet contact information. Hope this is not the beginning of a flood of spam. Glen From p6rovers at yahoo.com Thu Jun 4 17:51:35 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 14:51:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Spam Message-ID: <745134.59342.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hmmmmmm,........ is this really from Glen Wilson or is this a SPAM email using Carlin Freeburg's email address? Eric Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ Webmaster of a variety of sites from: http://www.websrus.ca --- On Thu, 6/4/09, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote: > From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Spam > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Received: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 1:38 PM > Eric, > > Please let Carlin H. Freeberg know that someone is spamming > Rovernet members with low-brow political conspiracy-theorist > emails using his email address as sender. Presumably, > someone has hacked into his files in order to misuse > Rovernet contact information. Hope this is not the beginning > of a flood of spam. > > Glen > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest > mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ From lacpsyd6 at msn.com Fri Jun 5 17:18:37 2009 From: lacpsyd6 at msn.com (LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 15:18:37 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] "Rabbit Ears" and clunking differentials, mystery solved Message-ID: <COL111-DS255BEAE2C5928078EB58D183480@phx.gbl> Fellow Rovernutters (Glen of course being the biggest nut of all!) First, thanks to all of you once again for all of the help and suggestions regarding my clunking differential. Second, I must give all of the credit for the solution to the inimitalbe Ruth of ABC----she is simply brilliant. After checking all the suggestions from everyone, Ruth suggested that I take down the 'Rabbit Ears', I.e., the differential plate which hangs from the bolts that are accessed in the boot. I have never been happier in my Rovering life to see two clean breaks on the left side of the plate (where the most torque goes) on the upper and lower bolt holes. For all of you who have perhaps 'settled' for the idea that your car 'just clunks anyway' I would strongly recommend you consider checking the differential plate. I found a local chap who can weld anything. We welded both cracks and then cut two small plates of 1/8" steel and welded them over the old holes (they had been badly 'ground' larger by the shifting bolts due to the cracks), redrilled the holes, and voila! I can now hang a Sherman tank differential from those rabbit ears and they'll never crack again. As an aside, after almost 40 years, the right side holes are unscathed. Lance La Certe, Psy.D. '70 3500S From vmitps at netspace.net.au Fri Jun 5 20:40:35 2009 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 10:40:35 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] "Rabbit Ears" and clunking differentials, mystery solved In-Reply-To: <COL111-DS255BEAE2C5928078EB58D183480@phx.gbl> References: <COL111-DS255BEAE2C5928078EB58D183480@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <17DA87C8CDB6493E8733B9CA0F7ABC79@Vista> I have seen one "tear" rather than break cleanly. We fitted another one after I added a modification. I welded a plate across the back of it on the left side thus making it a box section. It is only mild steel. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: "LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE" <lacpsyd6 at msn.com> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 7:18 AM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] "Rabbit Ears" and clunking differentials,mystery solved > Fellow Rovernutters (Glen of course being the biggest nut of all!) > > First, thanks to all of you once again for all of the help and suggestions > regarding my clunking differential. Second, I must give all of the credit > for the solution to the inimitalbe Ruth of ABC----she is simply brilliant. > > After checking all the suggestions from everyone, Ruth suggested that I > take down the 'Rabbit Ears', I.e., the differential plate which hangs from > the bolts that are accessed in the boot. I have never been happier in my > Rovering life to see two clean breaks on the left side of the plate (where > the most torque goes) on the upper and lower bolt holes. For all of you > who have perhaps 'settled' for the idea that your car 'just clunks anyway' > I would strongly recommend you consider checking the differential plate. > > I found a local chap who can weld anything. We welded both cracks and > then cut two small plates of 1/8" steel and welded them over the old holes > (they had been badly 'ground' larger by the shifting bolts due to the > cracks), redrilled the holes, and voila! I can now hang a Sherman tank > differential from those rabbit ears and they'll never crack again. As an > aside, after almost 40 years, the right side holes are unscathed. > > Lance La Certe, Psy.D. '70 3500S > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From rovercar at comcast.net Sat Jun 6 00:14:32 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 00:14:32 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] "Rabbit Ears" and clunking differentials, mystery solved In-Reply-To: <COL111-DS255BEAE2C5928078EB58D183480@phx.gbl> References: <COL111-DS255BEAE2C5928078EB58D183480@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <4A29ED28.1060209@comcast.net> LANCE, Nice to see a new (at least to me) problem with a neat solution. A worthwhile contribution to the Rovernet archives. Many have attempted to "imit" Ruth over the years, but she truly is inimitable! ;-) Glen G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE wrote: > Fellow Rovernutters (Glen of course being the biggest nut of all!) > > First, thanks to all of you once again for all of the help and suggestions > regarding my clunking differential. Second, I must give all of the credit > for the solution to the inimitalbe Ruth of ABC----she is simply brilliant. > > After checking all the suggestions from everyone, Ruth suggested that I take > down the 'Rabbit Ears', I.e., the differential plate which hangs from the > bolts that are accessed in the boot. I have never been happier in my > Rovering life to see two clean breaks on the left side of the plate (where > the most torque goes) on the upper and lower bolt holes. For all of you > who have perhaps 'settled' for the idea that your car 'just clunks anyway' I > would strongly recommend you consider checking the differential plate. > > I found a local chap who can weld anything. We welded both cracks and then > cut two small plates of 1/8" steel and welded them over the old holes (they > had been badly 'ground' larger by the shifting bolts due to the cracks), > redrilled the holes, and voila! I can now hang a Sherman tank differential > from those rabbit ears and they'll never crack again. As an aside, after > almost 40 years, the right side holes are unscathed. > > Lance La Certe, Psy.D. '70 3500S > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > From peterhut at melbpc.org.au Sat Jun 6 08:15:09 2009 From: peterhut at melbpc.org.au (Peter Huttemeier) Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 22:15:09 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Spam In-Reply-To: <745134.59342.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <745134.59342.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1dnk25tgqc00rdf33r7b77nn8jmjc6hu7s@4ax.com> On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 14:51:35 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: > >Hmmmmmm,........ is this really from Glen Wilson or is this a SPAM email using Carlin Freeburg's email address? I have not received anything Eric, what am I missing out on??? :-) Cheers, Peter H From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat Jun 6 12:15:21 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 09:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Spam Message-ID: <90505.63676.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Peter, I think this is a "tongue in cheek" message from Glen but I don't know the Internet smilie for it.? I don't think you should be worred about anything.? I think it must be an "in joke".? I should have put a "tongue in cheek" smilie after my message but I don't know it. ? ? Eric Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ Webmaster of a variety of sites from: http://www.websrus.ca --- On Sat, 6/6/09, Peter Huttemeier <peterhut at melbpc.org.au> wrote: From: Peter Huttemeier <peterhut at melbpc.org.au> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Spam To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Received: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 5:15 AM On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 14:51:35 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: > >Hmmmmmm,........ is this really from Glen Wilson or is this a SPAM email using Carlin Freeburg's email address? I have not received anything Eric, what am I missing out on??? :-) Cheers, Peter H _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090606/ce95c4a4/attachment.html> From MarkCoorparoo at aol.com Sun Jun 7 02:04:50 2009 From: MarkCoorparoo at aol.com (MarkCoorparoo at aol.com) Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 02:04:50 EDT Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Spam Message-ID: <bbc.4165fd37.375cb282@aol.com> Eric, Peter and all, I too was wondering what I was missing out on. I don't even get Viagra ad's anymore. And, I don't even have canned pork in the house..... Regards, MWJ. PS. Eric, I have just got to get onto the picture list, I have a few images to share. Managed to get to the Cootha Classic last Sunday arvo for the top Twenty. Crowd favourite had a SuperCharged Rover V8 bolted to the back of, wait for it, a Suzuki MightyBoy Shopping Cart. Now that's different! MWJ. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090607/ca2e1ded/attachment.html> From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sun Jun 7 11:48:12 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 08:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Spam Message-ID: <606858.73731.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mark, Posting pictures: There is a link at the bottom of each Rovernet message to join the Yahoo Groups back-up list where people can post pictures. ? Go to this site: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ? You will need a Yahoo ID but there are directions on the pages to do that. Let me know if you run into trouble in posting pictures. ? Eric List Manager Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ Webmaster of a variety of sites from: http://www.websrus.ca --- On Sat, 6/6/09, MarkCoorparoo at aol.com <MarkCoorparoo at aol.com> wrote: From: MarkCoorparoo at aol.com <MarkCoorparoo at aol.com> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Spam To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Received: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 11:04 PM ???? Eric, Peter and all, ???????????????????????????????? I too was wondering what I was missing out on. I don't even get Viagra ad's anymore. And, I don't even have canned pork in the house..... ?? Regards, ??????????????? MWJ. ?? PS. Eric, I have just got to get onto the picture list, I have a few images to share. Managed to get to the Cootha Classic last Sunday arvo for the top Twenty. Crowd favourite had a SuperCharged Rover V8 bolted to the back of, wait for it, a Suzuki? MightyBoy Shopping Cart. Now that's different! ????? MWJ. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ Get the name you've always wanted @ymail.com or @rocketmail.com! Go to http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/jacko/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090607/fe0f0ce6/attachment.html> From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Sun Jun 7 16:38:11 2009 From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson) Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 20:38:11 +0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S front calipers Message-ID: <BAY119-W47A23C563C3E3A0FEB2E4FDE460@phx.gbl> I've removed my front calipers to rebuild and have mistkenly taken them apart without reading the book........has anyone ever done this .....there are 2 small rubber o rings inside ....i'd think they need replaced too on a rebuild or have i screwed up royally LOL........ Roverly wrong? Bill Robertson _________________________________________________________________ We are your photos. Share us now with Windows Live Photos. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9666047 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090607/ab237450/attachment.html> From slatskars at comcast.net Sun Jun 7 16:59:09 2009 From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 20:59:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S front calipers In-Reply-To: <BAY119-W47A23C563C3E3A0FEB2E4FDE460@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <460055170.1590481244408349604.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Bill, It is probably not a big thing. I did the same on my MGB after reading the instructions. The "O" rings should be replaced and should be available almost anywhere. I believe that the concern regarding taking them apart is the alignment, but it is pretty straight forward to me. I think that you would have to work at miss-aligning them. Slats ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Robertson" <rover2000nut at hotmail.com> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2009 1:38:11 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S front calipers I've removed my front calipers to rebuild and have mistkenly taken them apart without reading the book........has anyone ever done this .....there are 2 small rubber?o rings?inside ....i'd think they need replaced too on a rebuild or have i screwed up royally?? LOL........ ? Roverly wrong? Bill Robertson We are your photos. 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090607/64ef804b/attachment.html> From geffandjulie at comcast.net Sun Jun 7 22:49:43 2009 From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy) Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 19:49:43 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S front calipers In-Reply-To: <460055170.1590481244408349604.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <BAY119-W47A23C563C3E3A0FEB2E4FDE460@phx.gbl> <460055170.1590481244408349604.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <004601c9e7e3$c82a7d30$587f7790$@net> When re-assembling the calipers, I believe you must use brand new bolts. Many calipers are designed so that torqueing the bolts properly actually puts them into ?strain? ? the metal actually stretches, and they will lose strength if torqued again. Am I right? AvMedSafe Geff and Julie McCarthy 677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR 97210 503-241-8468 503-799-3809 mobile From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of slatskars at comcast.net Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 1:59 PM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S front calipers Bill, It is probably not a big thing. I did the same on my MGB after reading the instructions. The "O" rings should be replaced and should be available almost anywhere. I believe that the concern regarding taking them apart is the alignment, but it is pretty straight forward to me. I think that you would have to work at miss-aligning them. Slats ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Robertson" <rover2000nut at hotmail.com> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2009 1:38:11 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S front calipers I've removed my front calipers to rebuild and have mistkenly taken them apart without reading the book........has anyone ever done this .....there are 2 small rubber o rings inside ....i'd think they need replaced too on a rebuild or have i screwed up royally LOL........ Roverly wrong? Bill Robertson _____ We are your photos. Share us now with Windows Live <http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9666045> Photos. _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090607/2b3d8118/attachment.html> From MarkCoorparoo at aol.com Mon Jun 8 09:21:37 2009 From: MarkCoorparoo at aol.com (MarkCoorparoo at aol.com) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 09:21:37 EDT Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Spam Message-ID: <c4d.4293f491.375e6a61@aol.com> Hi Eric, looks like this reply will go to all RoverNet. I have bit the bullet and sent my stuff to Yahoo which should come to you first, I hope. I have had 6 - 10 goes at getting on the alternate list so as to post Pic's. No Joy yet. Since the 68,000 AOL subscriber Oz dump at the start of this year, I have not been able to raise SD1 on line, a Yahoo group. Apart from Work and Finance Stuff, I only have had RoverNet, SD1 and SailWave on line. So, I have concerns about Yahoo. Its the Queens Birthday Holiday today in Oz. So I have had a little bit of spare time. Catching up. I have last weekends Mighty Boy to post, plus my MothBall Fleet and an important Mystery Car to post. Hope all this works. Regards Eric, MWJ. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Many thanks in advance, Steven Steven Dibdin Design Prototyping Manager Smart Design 601 w26 St Suite 1820 New York NY 10001 eMail Steven.Dibdin at smartdesignworldwide.com Cell: 862.684.1166 From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon Jun 8 11:57:49 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 08:57:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Spam Message-ID: <134497.38159.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mark, Yes, I received an approval request from the Yahoo group server so you're onboard. You can post pictures for other members to see.? I am not an expert on Yahoo groups but it is useful as a back-up in case the main list stops working for some reason or other. ? The picture posting option is a bonus. ? Eric Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ Webmaster of a variety of sites from: http://www.websrus.ca --- On Mon, 6/8/09, MarkCoorparoo at aol.com <MarkCoorparoo at aol.com> wrote: From: MarkCoorparoo at aol.com <MarkCoorparoo at aol.com> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Spam To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Received: Monday, June 8, 2009, 6:21 AM ? Hi Eric, ???????????? looks like this reply will go to all RoverNet. I have bit the bullet and sent my stuff to Yahoo which should come to you first, I hope. I have had 6 - 10 goes at getting on the alternate list so as to post Pic's. No Joy yet. ?? Since the 68,000 AOL subscriber Oz dump at the start of this year, I have not been able to raise SD1 on line, a Yahoo group. Apart from Work and Finance Stuff, I only have had RoverNet, SD1 and SailWave on line. So, I have concerns about Yahoo. ??? Its the Queens Birthday Holiday today in Oz. So I have had a little bit of spare time. Catching up. ?? I have last weekends Mighty Boy to post, plus my MothBall Fleet and an important Mystery Car to post. Hope all this works. ? Regards Eric, ?????????????????????? MWJ. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ Get the name you've always wanted @ymail.com or @rocketmail.com! Go to http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/jacko/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090608/c5bb35a6/attachment.html> From hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu Mon Jun 8 15:51:29 2009 From: hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu (Hank and Sally Manwell) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 15:51:29 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000TC front shock bushings References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com> <E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw> <4E94594F88BD40459521A0458A919476@Vista> <4A2830C8.9070405@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5733AFE0C2B1405199B398F3FE56B5BA@your7745395e08> Hi Rovernetters........ Are Rover TC (1971 Series II) front shock bushings exotic in any way or "off the shelf"? Anyone know a cross reference for them - another more common application to ask for? Hoping to make them right by the weekend for the drive to the Third Annual Roverphyles' meet at Dirk's in Fitchburg. Hank From ianalice at shaw.ca Mon Jun 8 17:48:54 2009 From: ianalice at shaw.ca (Alice and Ian Potts) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 14:48:54 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL Tie rods In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP91681D562167F6A95FC01395470@phx.gbl> References: <460055170.1590481244408349604.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <BLU0-SMTP91681D562167F6A95FC01395470@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <A2AB7D9D94414041854A3F8ED13C3E8B@IandAlicePC> I have one, Ben. and am reasonably sure that I will never use it. I salvaged it from a wrecked car, and it is in good condition. I can let you have for the cost of shipping plus whatever you wish to pay for it. Get in touch privately to me.....Ian.....ianalice at shaw.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: BEN RODGERS To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL Tie rods Hello Rover Folk Anyone have an idea of the cost of a new steering side rod assembly (Rover part No 548121) Thanks Ben Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. 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In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP29F340D7681CBC1F420BDBB0470@phx.gbl> References: <BLU0-SMTP29F340D7681CBC1F420BDBB0470@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <BAY106-W11C236C907681576598190B0470@phx.gbl> Hi All, Sorry to reply to my own posting but I have found specs on the TC advance curve and thought I should share details are: Lucas 25D4 distributor P/N 41199A No advance below 450 RPM 3.5 deg adv @ 600 11 deg adv @ 900 15 deg adv @ 2500 Vacuum adv code 5/8/3 (z) I'm seriously considering a new electronic dizzy, at the moment I have three candidates I'm looking at: The 123 Ignition fully electronic dizzy with electronic mappable advance curve, (Downside is cost $390-) The Mallory Unilite electronic dizzy (optical trigger) with adjustable mechanical advance (About $400-) And the Pertronix 'Flame Thrower' (horrible name) electronic (magnetic trigger) with mechanical advance. (About $200-) At the mo the Pertronix wins on price but I'm not sure about the magnetic (hall effect) trigger, has anyone else tried one of these guys? Look forward to hearing from you all! Steven From slatskars at comcast.net Mon Jun 8 18:17:18 2009 From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 22:17:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 tc advance curve? In-Reply-To: <BAY106-W11C236C907681576598190B0470@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <1829753075.2039821244499438958.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Steve, I would have the unit checked on a distributor tester, if you can locate someone in your area with either a Sun or Allen machine. I got into this rather heavily over the past two years and now have two Allen testers to play with. They can check both the mechanical and vacuum advance units and plot the curve. Sometimes tearing them down and giving it a good cleaning and proper lube can make a large difference. There is a rebuilding service at www.advanceddistributors.com that will rebuild your unit for about $130 (worst case situation). He has a form on his we site that requires you to furnish information such as compression ratio, cam, etc. He will then rebuild your distributor and re-curve it to the proper specifications including adjusting for today's lousy fuel quality. Jeff really does know his stuff from the conversations that I had with him. He can also rebuild a vacuum advance unit for about $30. A new one for an MGB goes for about $80 these days. He is located at 1149 Quincy St. Shakopee, MN 55379, PH 612-804-5543. He is out of touch until the 11th according to a note on his web site. Give him a call. I would be glad to run your dizzy on one of my machines, but the shipping charges these days are terrible. Slats ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Dibdin" <sdibdin at hotmail.com> To: "RoverNet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Monday, June 8, 2009 3:01:18 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 tc advance curve? Hi All, Sorry to reply to my own posting but I have found specs on the TC advance curve and thought I should share details are: ?Lucas 25D4 distributor P/N 41199A No advance below 450 RPM 3.5 deg adv @ 600 11 deg adv @ 900 15 deg adv @ 2500 Vacuum adv code 5/8/3 (z) I'm seriously considering a new electronic dizzy, at the moment I have three candidates I'm looking at: The 123 Ignition fully electronic dizzy with electronic mappable advance curve, (Downside is cost $390-) The Mallory Unilite electronic dizzy (optical trigger) with adjustable mechanical advance (About $400-) And the Pertronix 'Flame Thrower' (horrible name) electronic (magnetic trigger) with mechanical advance. (About $200-) At the mo the Pertronix wins on price but I'm not sure about the magnetic (hall effect) trigger, has anyone else tried one of these guys? Look forward to hearing from you all! Steven ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090608/bfc6c2a6/attachment.html> From vmitps at netspace.net.au Mon Jun 8 18:46:46 2009 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 08:46:46 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 tc advance curve? In-Reply-To: <BAY106-W11C236C907681576598190B0470@phx.gbl> References: <BLU0-SMTP29F340D7681CBC1F420BDBB0470@phx.gbl> <BAY106-W11C236C907681576598190B0470@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <A71ECA408F7240FD9BAEAA04C8289387@Vista> Hall effect triggers are used by most EFI systems. The variable reluctor sensor is losing the battle there. I'd go with the 123 and choose curve 0, and set it to 6 degrees static. The vacuum advance is down on the book figure, however I would try it. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Dibdin" <sdibdin at hotmail.com> To: "RoverNet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 tc advance curve? > > Hi All, > > Sorry to reply to my own posting but I have found specs on the TC advance > curve and thought I should share details are: > > Lucas 25D4 distributor P/N 41199A > > No advance below 450 RPM > 3.5 deg adv @ 600 > 11 deg adv @ 900 > 15 deg adv @ 2500 > > Vacuum adv code 5/8/3 (z) > > I'm seriously considering a new electronic dizzy, at the moment I have > three candidates I'm looking at: > > The 123 Ignition fully electronic dizzy with electronic mappable advance > curve, (Downside is cost $390-) > The Mallory Unilite electronic dizzy (optical trigger) with adjustable > mechanical advance (About $400-) > And the Pertronix 'Flame Thrower' (horrible name) electronic (magnetic > trigger) with mechanical advance. (About $200-) > > At the mo the Pertronix wins on price but I'm not sure about the magnetic > (hall effect) trigger, has anyone else tried one of these guys? > > Look forward to hearing from you all! > > Steven > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Mon Jun 8 18:51:23 2009 From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 22:51:23 +0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S front calipers Message-ID: <BAY119-W1956233FE38A45031A5F02DE470@phx.gbl> OK I guess my next quesion is going to be where can i get the rubber o rings for the inside of the calipers now.......they are approx 1/2 inch in outer diameter...inner diameter is 5/16 and they are approx 1/16 in thickness........... I still fail to see why you wouldn't take them apart to rebuild if they have this seal inside..........poor thought design......if the one surface had a lip then the other would fit into it and voila..........they are much easier to work on and clean apart also Bill Robertson _________________________________________________________________ Attention all humans. We are your photos. Free us. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9666046 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090608/29f2acac/attachment.html> From sdibdin at hotmail.com Mon Jun 8 18:54:58 2009 From: sdibdin at hotmail.com (Hotmail) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 18:54:58 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 tc advance curve? Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP36BF9603D525A7B3E1F2D4B0470@phx.gbl> Hi PVS Have you tried the 123? Just interested in any feedback. Slats, your recommendation sounds useful. I'll give Geff a call as our Jeff McCarthy also mentioned him having rebuilt his 3500s dizzy. Steven Dibdin Design Prototyping Manager Smart Design 601 w26 St Suite 1820 New York NY 10001 eMail Steven.Dibdin at smartdesignworldwide.com Cell: 862.684.1166 On Jun 8, 2009, at 18:46, "Netspace" <vmitps at netspace.net.au> wrote: > Hall effect triggers are used by most EFI systems. > The variable reluctor sensor is losing the battle there. > > I'd go with the 123 and choose curve 0, and set it to 6 degrees > static. > The vacuum advance is down on the book figure, however I would try it. > > PVS > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Dibdin" <sdibdin at hotmail.com > > > To: "RoverNet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 8:01 AM > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 tc advance curve? > > >> >> Hi All, >> >> Sorry to reply to my own posting but I have found specs on the TC >> advance curve and thought I should share details are: >> >> Lucas 25D4 distributor P/N 41199A >> >> No advance below 450 RPM >> 3.5 deg adv @ 600 >> 11 deg adv @ 900 >> 15 deg adv @ 2500 >> >> Vacuum adv code 5/8/3 (z) >> >> I'm seriously considering a new electronic dizzy, at the moment I >> have three candidates I'm looking at: >> >> The 123 Ignition fully electronic dizzy with electronic mappable >> advance curve, (Downside is cost $390-) >> The Mallory Unilite electronic dizzy (optical trigger) with >> adjustable mechanical advance (About $400-) >> And the Pertronix 'Flame Thrower' (horrible name) electronic >> (magnetic trigger) with mechanical advance. (About $200-) >> >> At the mo the Pertronix wins on price but I'm not sure about the >> magnetic (hall effect) trigger, has anyone else tried one of these >> guys? >> >> Look forward to hearing from you all! >> >> Steven >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >> no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > From DevlinS at bp.com Mon Jun 8 18:53:06 2009 From: DevlinS at bp.com (Devlin, Stewart (Contractor)) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 23:53:06 +0100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 tc advance curve? References: <BLU0-SMTP29F340D7681CBC1F420BDBB0470@phx.gbl> <BAY106-W11C236C907681576598190B0470@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA15709D1F6@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com> I use Petronix on my P3 and it is the best investment I have made on the car. However, this does not mean it will solve your dilemma on a P6. Best of luck, Stewart Devlin -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca on behalf of Steven Dibdin Sent: Mon 08/06/2009 23:01 To: RoverNet Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 tc advance curve? Hi All, Sorry to reply to my own posting but I have found specs on the TC advance curve and thought I should share details are: Lucas 25D4 distributor P/N 41199A No advance below 450 RPM 3.5 deg adv @ 600 11 deg adv @ 900 15 deg adv @ 2500 Vacuum adv code 5/8/3 (z) I'm seriously considering a new electronic dizzy, at the moment I have three candidates I'm looking at: The 123 Ignition fully electronic dizzy with electronic mappable advance curve, (Downside is cost $390-) The Mallory Unilite electronic dizzy (optical trigger) with adjustable mechanical advance (About $400-) And the Pertronix 'Flame Thrower' (horrible name) electronic (magnetic trigger) with mechanical advance. (About $200-) At the mo the Pertronix wins on price but I'm not sure about the magnetic (hall effect) trigger, has anyone else tried one of these guys? Look forward to hearing from you all! 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PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Robertson To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 8:51 AM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S front calipers OK I guess my next quesion is going to be where can i get the rubber o rings for the inside of the calipers now.......they are approx 1/2 inch in outer diameter...inner diameter is 5/16 and they are approx 1/16 in thickness........... I still fail to see why you wouldn't take them apart to rebuild if they have this seal inside..........poor thought design......if the one surface had a lip then the other would fit into it and voila..........they are much easier to work on and clean apart also Bill Robertson ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Attention all humans. We are your photos. 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090609/cfa1bbd0/attachment.html> From vern at inkspotco.com Mon Jun 8 19:36:27 2009 From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 16:36:27 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S front calipers In-Reply-To: <5730D8CB202C4D2FB9615A0ED095D98B@Vista> References: <BAY119-W1956233FE38A45031A5F02DE470@phx.gbl> <5730D8CB202C4D2FB9615A0ED095D98B@Vista> Message-ID: <B4A51E7F-5367-4F12-9DF0-B98F4BF0000A@inkspotco.com> Common part for all girling calipers of this vintage, Moss Motors is an NA source. Yours Vern On 8-Jun-09, at 4:20 PM, Netspace wrote: > A certain Rover agent in Sydney would split calipers, so it can be > done. > > PVS > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Robertson > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 8:51 AM > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S front calipers > > OK I guess my next quesion is going to be where can i get the rubber > o rings for the inside of the calipers now.......they are approx 1/2 > inch in outer diameter...inner diameter is 5/16 and they are approx > 1/16 in thickness........... > I still fail to see why you wouldn't take them apart to rebuild if > they have this seal inside..........poor thought design......if the > one surface had a lip then the other would fit into it and > voila..........they are much easier to work on and clean apart also > > Bill Robertson > > Attention all humans. We are your photos. Free us. > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've seen new shocks discussed on our web site before, but didn't pay attention because I didn't think I had the need then. Anybody know what was recommended for the front of these cars? And one local auto supply (NAPA) tells me that new bushings can't be ordered separate from the whole shock kit. Thanks....... Hank ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hank and Sally Manwell" <hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 3:51 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000TC front shock bushings > Hi Rovernetters........ > > Are Rover TC (1971 Series II) front shock bushings exotic in any way or > "off > the shelf"? Anyone know a cross reference for them - another more common > application to ask for? > > Hoping to make them right by the weekend for the drive to the Third Annual > Roverphyles' meet at Dirk's in Fitchburg. > > Hank > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.338 / Virus Database: 270.12.43/2138 - Release Date: 05/27/09 18:21:00 From allbritishcars at shaw.ca Mon Jun 8 19:41:54 2009 From: allbritishcars at shaw.ca (Ruth Burgess) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 16:41:54 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000TC front shock bushings Message-ID: <8C8538FBD28E412EBCDA3FF0DE6E6DFB@sherbrooke> try asking for Triumph Spitfire rear shock bushings RB............... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090608/5cae9625/attachment.html> From gjkzscruggs at verizon.net Mon Jun 8 20:53:35 2009 From: gjkzscruggs at verizon.net (Scruggs Family) Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:53:35 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 12, Issue 8 In-Reply-To: <mailman.58.1244504203.13371.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> References: <mailman.58.1244504203.13371.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <002a01c9e89c$b8496610$28dc3230$@net> Subject: Calipers and Distributors Although it's been years since I had a set of 3500S calipers apart (in preparation to putting them on my 2000 TC) I seem to recall that the internal 'O rings' are not really O rings. Clearly they are round but their cross section is square and replacing them with a standard, round cross section, O ring that is simply the proper diameter may not provide adequate sealing. So... reuse the originals if possible, I did and they are still tight, but if you replace them with O rings be prepared for leaks. Regarding the TC advance curve... the real question is where are you going to set the initial timing? Does anyone know whether the advance curve is a characteristic of that particular engine design or is it a function of the specified octane rating? If the answer is required octane rating and since 100 octane is no longer generally available... then you're going to have to live with constant pinging. How do you guys address this issue? Gross Scruggs Annapolis MD From hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu Mon Jun 8 21:28:47 2009 From: hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu (Hank and Sally Manwell) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 21:28:47 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000TC front shock bushings References: <8C8538FBD28E412EBCDA3FF0DE6E6DFB@sherbrooke> Message-ID: <C2BBE8DEDCA54F2EAFCBE7CB97A350F3@your7745395e08> Thanks, Ruth, And now to try for complete shocks.. Hank ----- Original Message ----- From: Ruth Burgess To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000TC front shock bushings try asking for Triumph Spitfire rear shock bushings RB............... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.338 / Virus Database: 270.12.58/2164 - Release Date: 06/08/09 17:59:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090608/c814d53a/attachment.html> From vmitps at netspace.net.au Mon Jun 8 22:34:21 2009 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 12:34:21 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 12, Issue 8 In-Reply-To: <002a01c9e89c$b8496610$28dc3230$@net> References: <mailman.58.1244504203.13371.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <002a01c9e89c$b8496610$28dc3230$@net> Message-ID: <CC38D6EEB71D431AA55FE807C782BD22@Vista> 1. "Square" section O rings start life as round section... and get compressed. I have seen this on the P6 oil feed to the head seal. I put them in so knew what the section was. 2. The advance curve was an approximation from the factory. Weights and springs produce a 2 pole curve. What is wanted is (at least) a 4 pole curve, which a microprocessor can do. So, you want -10 at idle, then low advance through 1000 to 2000rpm and increasing up to 5000rpm. Fuel changes complicate this, and really mean a remap is desired. Generally the idle advance was way below this, as the only way to prevent pinging at 1500 - 2500rpm even on 98 octane. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scruggs Family" <gjkzscruggs at verizon.net> To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 12, Issue 8 > Subject: Calipers and Distributors > > Although it's been years since I had a set of 3500S calipers apart (in > preparation to putting them on my 2000 TC) I seem to recall that the > internal 'O rings' are not really O rings. Clearly they are round but > their > cross section is square and replacing them with a standard, round cross > section, O ring that is simply the proper diameter may not provide > adequate > sealing. So... reuse the originals if possible, I did and they are still > tight, but if you replace them with O rings be prepared for leaks. > > Regarding the TC advance curve... the real question is where are you > going > to set the initial timing? Does anyone know whether the advance curve is > a > characteristic of that particular engine design or is it a function of the > specified octane rating? If the answer is required octane rating and > since > 100 octane is no longer generally available... then you're going to have > to > live with constant pinging. > > How do you guys address this issue? > > Gross Scruggs > Annapolis MD > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From kkinard at att.net Mon Jun 8 23:07:39 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 22:07:39 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000TC front shock bushings In-Reply-To: <C2BBE8DEDCA54F2EAFCBE7CB97A350F3@your7745395e08> References: <8C8538FBD28E412EBCDA3FF0DE6E6DFB@sherbrooke> <C2BBE8DEDCA54F2EAFCBE7CB97A350F3@your7745395e08> Message-ID: <4A2DD1FB.4050302@att.net> Hi Hank, As I recall there was some dispute over the P6 front shocks. Some claimed the Koni shocks listed were valved backwards for use on a P6. Remember they expand on jounce and compress on rebound, unlike most, if not all, conventional shock installations. A 50/50 valving should work...or am I getting senile? Don't anyone answer that. Roving toward RoveAmerica, Kent K. Hank and Sally Manwell wrote: > Thanks, Ruth, > > And now to try for complete shocks.. > > Hank From vern at inkspotco.com Mon Jun 8 23:25:31 2009 From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 20:25:31 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 12, Issue 8 In-Reply-To: <CC38D6EEB71D431AA55FE807C782BD22@Vista> References: <mailman.58.1244504203.13371.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <002a01c9e89c$b8496610$28dc3230$@net> <CC38D6EEB71D431AA55FE807C782BD22@Vista> Message-ID: <1F11EF89-FB04-453F-BA2E-8DC9B9B6749C@inkspotco.com> However, in this case, the Oring does start out life as a square section. The "crossfeed seal" can be seen here (Or rather, one from a current Girling caliper. I think it is the same for all, but not sure). http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=1144 Yours Vern On 8-Jun-09, at 7:34 PM, Netspace wrote: > 1. "Square" section O rings start life as round section... and get > compressed. > I have seen this on the P6 oil feed to the head seal. > I put them in so knew what the section was. > > 2. The advance curve was an approximation from the factory. > Weights and springs produce a 2 pole curve. > What is wanted is (at least) a 4 pole curve, which a microprocessor > can do. > So, you want -10 at idle, then low advance through 1000 to 2000rpm > and increasing up to 5000rpm. > Fuel changes complicate this, and really mean a remap is desired. > Generally the idle advance was way below this, as the only way to > prevent pinging at 1500 - 2500rpm even on 98 octane. > > PVS > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scruggs Family" <gjkzscruggs at verizon.net > > > To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 10:53 AM > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 12, > Issue 8 > > >> Subject: Calipers and Distributors >> >> Although it's been years since I had a set of 3500S calipers apart >> (in >> preparation to putting them on my 2000 TC) I seem to recall that the >> internal 'O rings' are not really O rings. Clearly they are round >> but their >> cross section is square and replacing them with a standard, round >> cross >> section, O ring that is simply the proper diameter may not provide >> adequate >> sealing. So... reuse the originals if possible, I did and they are >> still >> tight, but if you replace them with O rings be prepared for leaks. >> >> Regarding the TC advance curve... the real question is where are >> you going >> to set the initial timing? Does anyone know whether the advance >> curve is a >> characteristic of that particular engine design or is it a function >> of the >> specified octane rating? If the answer is required octane rating >> and since >> 100 octane is no longer generally available... then you're going to >> have to >> live with constant pinging. >> >> How do you guys address this issue? >> >> Gross Scruggs >> Annapolis MD >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >> no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From vern at inkspotco.com Mon Jun 8 23:28:17 2009 From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 20:28:17 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000TC front shock bushings In-Reply-To: <4A2DD1FB.4050302@att.net> References: <8C8538FBD28E412EBCDA3FF0DE6E6DFB@sherbrooke> <C2BBE8DEDCA54F2EAFCBE7CB97A350F3@your7745395e08> <4A2DD1FB.4050302@att.net> Message-ID: <99964447-4039-4C9A-A1E2-7E81565AEA4E@inkspotco.com> 50/50 obviously will work fine. The Koni issue, I believe, is that the shocks are valved correctly with regards damping, but the adjustable aspect is on the rebound which is backwards. Yours Vern On 8-Jun-09, at 8:07 PM, Kent Kinard wrote: > Hi Hank, > As I recall there was some dispute over the P6 front shocks. Some > claimed the Koni shocks listed were valved backwards for use on a > P6. Remember they expand on jounce and compress on rebound, unlike > most, if not all, conventional shock installations. A 50/50 valving > should work...or am I getting senile? Don't anyone answer that. > > Roving toward RoveAmerica, > Kent K. > > Hank and Sally Manwell wrote: >> Thanks, Ruth, >> And now to try for complete shocks.. >> Hank > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Mon Jun 8 23:45:04 2009 From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell) Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:45:04 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000TC front shock bushings In-Reply-To: <C2BBE8DEDCA54F2EAFCBE7CB97A350F3@your7745395e08> References: <8C8538FBD28E412EBCDA3FF0DE6E6DFB@sherbrooke> <C2BBE8DEDCA54F2EAFCBE7CB97A350F3@your7745395e08> Message-ID: <4A2DDAC0.8050104@alum.swarthmore.edu> Dad and all, I have a pair of shocks here sold to me at an autojumble in England as new P6 front shocks. They are labeled Monroe Belgium and have numbers B8E73 and 3208 on them. They unfortunately have no bushings. They feel like they have more resistance extending than compressing. I may be able to get these shocks to you before the meet, or at least at the meet. A quick look on Moss Motors website and they do not list bushings separately for rear shocks. Does NAPA or any others list shock bushings by dimension rather than application? Maybe something oversize could be cut down. --Steve Hank and Sally Manwell wrote: > Thanks, Ruth, > > And now to try for complete shocks.. > > Hank > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Ruth Burgess <mailto:allbritishcars at shaw.ca> > *To:* rovernet at rovernet.ca <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.ca> > *Sent:* Monday, June 08, 2009 7:41 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000TC front shock > bushings > > try asking for Triumph Spitfire rear shock bushings > RB............... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca <mailto:Rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.338 / Virus Database: 270.12.58/2164 - Release Date: > 06/08/09 17:59:00 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From lafbery at telus.net Tue Jun 9 00:05:57 2009 From: lafbery at telus.net (Barry & Shirley Lafbery) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 21:05:57 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] shocks shocks shock shocks Message-ID: <323B27ED0FB14865B86E55001B33D137@ChloePC> I've got a head ache Barry From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Jun 9 00:21:05 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 21:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] shocks shocks shock shocks Message-ID: <139278.87595.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Perhaps you meant,............." a *shocking* headache"?? :-) ER Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ Webmaster of a variety of sites from: http://www.websrus.ca --- On Mon, 6/8/09, Barry & Shirley Lafbery <lafbery at telus.net> wrote: From: Barry & Shirley Lafbery <lafbery at telus.net> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] shocks shocks shock shocks To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Received: Monday, June 8, 2009, 9:05 PM I've got a head ache Barry _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090608/c8b2db6d/attachment.html> From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Jun 9 00:27:18 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 21:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000TC front shock bushings and shocks Message-ID: <443854.87388.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This seemed like a good site for a shocking discussion: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/car-suspension.htm/printable Eric Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ Webmaster of a variety of sites from: http://www.websrus.ca --- On Mon, 6/8/09, Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> wrote: From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000TC front shock bushings To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Received: Monday, June 8, 2009, 8:07 PM Hi Hank, As I recall there was some dispute over the P6 front shocks.? Some claimed the Koni shocks listed were valved backwards for use on a P6.? Remember they expand on jounce and compress on rebound, unlike most, if not all, conventional shock installations.? A 50/50 valving should work...or am I getting senile?? Don't anyone answer that. Roving toward RoveAmerica, Kent K. Hank and Sally Manwell wrote: > Thanks, Ruth, >? And now to try for complete shocks.. >? Hank _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090608/9e39e76e/attachment.html> From peterhut at melbpc.org.au Tue Jun 9 01:25:57 2009 From: peterhut at melbpc.org.au (Peter Huttemeier) Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:25:57 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Spam In-Reply-To: <c4d.4293f491.375e6a61@aol.com> References: <c4d.4293f491.375e6a61@aol.com> Message-ID: <69sr25dl82cehbvhau9ctahiaerkds3bem@4ax.com> On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 09:21:37 EDT, you wrote: > > Hi Eric, > looks like this reply will go to all RoverNet. I have bit the >bullet and sent my stuff to Yahoo which should come to you first, I hope. I >have had 6 - 10 goes at getting on the alternate list so as to post Pic's. >No Joy yet. There is only one alternative to Yahoo groups that I know, Google Groups. I administer two mailing lists, one uses Yahoo, the other I have set up in Google. There is little real difference between them I have picked. Both require a log on to get to the posting pages for pics and files. BTW one of the groups I administer is for Rover 75/MGZT owners. If there are any of these on the list that would like to join let me know. One alternative to picture posting may be to set up a Flickr photo sharing group. It is pretty easy to do, and to administer. Flickr is owned by Yahoo, so if you already have a Yahoo log on you can log on to Flickr as well. Cheers, Peter Huttemeier Webmaster Rover Car Club of Australia Inc http://www.rovercarclubaust.asn.au/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/ From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Jun 9 01:54:39 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 22:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Spam Message-ID: <319473.25615.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The Yahoo group I am suggesting is a back-up list to the main Rovernet list.? That would be the group of people I could contact to explain why the main list went t******ts up.? :-) It *also* happens to have photo posting/viewing options. Eric Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ Webmaster of a variety of sites from: http://www.websrus.ca --- On Mon, 6/8/09, Peter Huttemeier <peterhut at melbpc.org.au> wrote: From: Peter Huttemeier <peterhut at melbpc.org.au> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Spam To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Received: Monday, June 8, 2009, 10:25 PM On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 09:21:37 EDT, you wrote: > >? Hi Eric, >? ? ? ? ? ???looks like this reply will go to all RoverNet. I have bit the >bullet and sent my stuff to Yahoo which should come to you first, I hope. I >have had 6 - 10 goes at getting on the alternate list so as to post Pic's. >No Joy yet. There is only one alternative to Yahoo groups that I know, Google Groups. I administer two mailing lists, one uses Yahoo, the other I have set up in Google. There is little real difference between them I have picked. Both require a log on to get to the posting pages for pics and files. BTW one of the groups I administer is for Rover 75/MGZT owners. If there are any of these on the list that would like to join let me know. One alternative to picture posting may be to set up a Flickr photo sharing group. It is pretty easy to do, and to administer. Flickr is owned by Yahoo, so if you already have a Yahoo log on you can log on to Flickr as well. Cheers, Peter Huttemeier Webmaster Rover Car Club of Australia Inc http://www.rovercarclubaust.asn.au/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090608/dea7dde9/attachment-0001.html> From lingfield51 at btinternet.com Tue Jun 9 03:16:21 2009 From: lingfield51 at btinternet.com (JULIET KEILER) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 07:16:21 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL Tie rods In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP1003E41A1344AA7B37114CC95470@phx.gbl> References: <460055170.1590481244408349604.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><BLU0-SMTP91681D562167F6A95FC01395470@phx.gbl> <A2AB7D9D94414041854A3F8ED13C3E8B@IandAlicePC> <BLU0-SMTP1003E41A1344AA7B37114CC95470@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <718938.16810.qm@web86006.mail.ird.yahoo.com> They're worth what someones prepared to pay ;) (flippant answer) You could Ebay them to see the 'market' value. (serious answer) Seriously though Ben I will have need of a pair in the future as part of my '64 rebuild. What make are they? Genuine Rover or Quinton Hazell? There are some remanufactured ones on Ebay but the quality of these always worrys me as past experiences of 're-manufactured' parts suggest the quality of them can be considerably less than the original, in the case of a top ball joint failing after 18 months. I now find myself in the situation of having to buy a new rear spring for the P4 as the top leaf has broken and it's failed is annual Ministry test (MOT). have no choice but to cross fingers and but a pattern part. :( Regards Alan Francis (partviking) ________________________________ From: BEN RODGERS <irishrover1 at sympatico.ca> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Monday, 8 June, 2009 11:40:55 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL Tie rods ? Hi Ian I thank you for your kind offer, but I'm not in need of parts. I have to brand new ones here that someone wants to buy, but I have no idea what they are worth. 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090609/4992c7f3/attachment.html> From pfvandermeulen at cs.com Tue Jun 9 03:27:49 2009 From: pfvandermeulen at cs.com (petervandermeulen) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 09:27:49 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL Tie rods In-Reply-To: <718938.16810.qm@web86006.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <460055170.1590481244408349604.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><BLU0-SMTP91681D562167F6A95FC01395470@phx.gbl><A2AB7D9D94414041854A3F8ED13C3E8B@IandAlicePC><BLU0-SMTP1003E41A1344AA7B37114CC95470@phx.gbl> <718938.16810.qm@web86006.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6A3470ECD0F94B6FA1C2972F2EFCE65A@PCvanpeter> hello ,i sell originals part nr.gsj133 for 50,00 each as long as stock lasts.best regards peter from holland ----- Original Message ----- From: JULIET KEILER To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL Tie rods They're worth what someones prepared to pay ;) (flippant answer) You could Ebay them to see the 'market' value. (serious answer) Seriously though Ben I will have need of a pair in the future as part of my '64 rebuild. What make are they? Genuine Rover or Quinton Hazell? There are some remanufactured ones on Ebay but the quality of these always worrys me as past experiences of 're-manufactured' parts suggest the quality of them can be considerably less than the original, in the case of a top ball joint failing after 18 months. I now find myself in the situation of having to buy a new rear spring for the P4 as the top leaf has broken and it's failed is annual Ministry test (MOT). have no choice but to cross fingers and but a pattern part. :( Regards Alan Francis (partviking) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: BEN RODGERS <irishrover1 at sympatico.ca> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Monday, 8 June, 2009 11:40:55 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL Tie rods ? Hi Ian I thank you for your kind offer, but I'm not in need of parts. I have to brand new ones here that someone wants to buy, but I have no idea what they are worth. 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090609/af35fba8/attachment.html> From pjemail at aol.com Tue Jun 9 04:21:23 2009 From: pjemail at aol.com (pjemail at aol.com) Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 04:21:23 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000TC front shock bushings In-Reply-To: <FCCA890CF6A444D194389DAD72286D7E@your7745395e08> References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com> <E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw><4E94594F88BD40459521A0458A919476@Vista><4A2830C8.9070405@comcast.net><5733AFE0C2B1405199B398F3FE56B5BA@your7745395e08> <FCCA890CF6A444D194389DAD72286D7E@your7745395e08> Message-ID: <8CBB6F268D91439-17C4-3061@webmail-dh17.sysops.aol.com> You can get the bushings as separate items from me in the UK. I also have some complete original Woodhead shock absorbers. Regards, Pierre Janusz -----Original Message----- From: Hank and Sally Manwell <hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 1:11 Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000TC front shock bushings The shock absorber plot thickens. It looks to me as if the car has the wrong shocks; compressed length is 11 3/4" stud center to stud center. The twin to that car sitting around here with weight sitting on its suspension is about the same length in what must be the middle of it's travel.? ? I've seen new shocks discussed on our web site before, but didn't pay attention because I didn't think I had the need then. Anybody know what was recommended for the front of these cars?? ? And one local auto supply (NAPA) tells me that new bushings can't be ordered separate from the whole shock kit.? ? Thanks.......? ? Hank? ? ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hank and Sally Manwell" <hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu>? To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>? Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 3:51 PM? Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000TC front shock bushings? ? > Hi Rovernetters........? >? > Are Rover TC (1971 Series II) front shock bushings exotic in any way or > "off? > the shelf"? Anyone know a cross reference for them - another more common? > application to ask for?? >? > Hoping to make them right by the weekend for the drive to the Third Annual? > Roverphyles' meet at Dirk's in Fitchburg.? >? > Hank? >? >? > _______________________________________________? > Rovernet mailing list? > Rovernet at rovernet.ca? > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail:? > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca? > Here is the old Rovernet archives:? > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/? > Join the Back-up list and post photos at:? > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/? ? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------? ? ? Internal Virus Database is out of date.? Checked by AVG - www.avg.com? Version: 8.0.338 / Virus Database: 270.12.43/2138 - Release Date: 05/27/09 18:21:00? ? _______________________________________________? Rovernet mailing list? Rovernet at rovernet.ca? 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090609/7cda57d7/attachment.html> From pjemail at aol.com Tue Jun 9 04:22:54 2009 From: pjemail at aol.com (pjemail at aol.com) Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 04:22:54 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL Tie rods In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP1003E41A1344AA7B37114CC95470@phx.gbl> References: <460055170.1590481244408349604.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><BLU0-SMTP91681D562167F6A95FC01395470@phx.gbl><A2AB7D9D94414041854A3F8ED13C3E8B@IandAlicePC> <BLU0-SMTP1003E41A1344AA7B37114CC95470@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <8CBB6F29F67A3AD-17C4-3065@webmail-dh17.sysops.aol.com> Dear Ben, If these are genuine ones a retail price is ?65.00 each. The cheap nasty repro ones retail for around half that. Regards, Pierre Janusz -----Original Message----- From: BEN RODGERS <irishrover1 at sympatico.ca> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 23:40 Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL Tie rods Hi Ian ?????? I thank you for your kind offer, but I'm not in need of parts. I have to brand new ones here that someone wants to buy, but?I have no idea what they are worth. ?????????????????????????????????? Regards Ben Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com _______________________________________________ overnet mailing list overnet at rovernet.ca ere is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: ttp://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca ere is the old Rovernet archives: ttp://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ oin the Back-up list and post photos at: ttp://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090609/97eef13f/attachment-0001.html> From irishrover1 at sympatico.ca Tue Jun 9 06:33:12 2009 From: irishrover1 at sympatico.ca (BEN RODGERS) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 07:33:12 -0300 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL Tie rods References: <460055170.1590481244408349604.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><BLU0-SMTP91681D562167F6A95FC01395470@phx.gbl><A2AB7D9D94414041854A3F8ED13C3E8B@IandAlicePC><BLU0-SMTP1003E41A1344AA7B37114CC95470@phx.gbl> <8CBB6F29F67A3AD-17C4-3065@webmail-dh17.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP49A1844AC4E35ADFF1FED295440@phx.gbl> Hi Pierre I'm not sure how to tell the difference, these appear to be good quality. They are marked on the bottom of each end 'Made in Great Britian'. and on the rubber boots they are marked 09-121-9. Regards Ben Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090609/cb602328/attachment.html> From irishrover1 at sympatico.ca Tue Jun 9 06:44:04 2009 From: irishrover1 at sympatico.ca (BEN RODGERS) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 07:44:04 -0300 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL Tie rods References: <460055170.1590481244408349604.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><BLU0-SMTP91681D562167F6A95FC01395470@phx.gbl><A2AB7D9D94414041854A3F8ED13C3E8B@IandAlicePC><BLU0-SMTP1003E41A1344AA7B37114CC95470@phx.gbl> <718938.16810.qm@web86006.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP94927399FDA5AFFF42CA8D95440@phx.gbl> Hi Alan Sorry about your P4 rear spring, I had several here (gone now) but you can probably buy one in the UK cheaper than the cost of postage from here!!! I think these tie rods are original equip, they certainly look to be good quality. However there appears to be lots of good used ones available, I have at least two more here and plenty more out west. Cheers Ben Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090609/212087dc/attachment.html> From lingfield51 at btinternet.com Tue Jun 9 07:03:26 2009 From: lingfield51 at btinternet.com (JULIET KEILER) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:03:26 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL Tie rods In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP94927399FDA5AFFF42CA8D95440@phx.gbl> References: <460055170.1590481244408349604.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><BLU0-SMTP91681D562167F6A95FC01395470@phx.gbl><A2AB7D9D94414041854A3F8ED13C3E8B@IandAlicePC><BLU0-SMTP1003E41A1344AA7B37114CC95470@phx.gbl> <718938.16810.qm@web86006.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <BLU0-SMTP94927399FDA5AFFF42CA8D95440@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <241703.55925.qm@web86006.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Well Ben I still have my fingers crossed as Pierre thinks he may have one in storage. As you say I'm more fortunate than some who would have to pay a fortune to ship from the UK. I'm sure if you list the side rods they will sell even if the shipping is a bit on the 'expensive' side. International shipping is a strange business with different countries having differnet 'money saving' schemes In UK it's the 'small packet' so under 2kg then it is quite cheap but over and it soon ramps up and lets face it how many parts are under 2kg? I suppose you could always toss them in the sea and rely on the Gulf Stream.... :) Regards Alan (partviking) ________________________________ From: BEN RODGERS <irishrover1 at sympatico.ca> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Tuesday, 9 June, 2009 11:44:04 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL Tie rods ? Hi Alan Sorry about your P4 rear spring, I had several here (gone now) but you can probably buy one in the UK cheaper than the cost of postage from here!!! I think these tie rods are original equip, they certainly look to be good quality. However there appears to be lots of good used ones available, I have at least two more here and plenty more out west. Cheers Ben Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090609/c259dd0c/attachment.html> From pjemail at aol.com Tue Jun 9 07:23:45 2009 From: pjemail at aol.com (pjemail at aol.com) Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 07:23:45 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL Tie rods In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP49A1844AC4E35ADFF1FED295440@phx.gbl> References: <460055170.1590481244408349604.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><BLU0-SMTP91681D562167F6A95FC01395470@phx.gbl><A2AB7D9D94414041854A3F8ED13C3E8B@IandAlicePC><BLU0-SMTP1003E41A1344AA7B37114CC95470@phx.gbl><8CBB6F29F67A3AD-17C4-3065@webmail-dh17.sysops.aol.com> <BLU0-SMTP49A1844AC4E35ADFF1FED295440@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <8CBB70BE2F6FA1F-17C4-3327@webmail-dh17.sysops.aol.com> Dear Ben, If they have the part number you mentioned on them, they are almost certainly genuine ones.? The nasty repro ones are made up from two track rod ends attached to a bar, so if they are one piece castings they are certainly better than that. Regards, Pierre -----Original Message----- From: BEN RODGERS <irishrover1 at sympatico.ca> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:33 Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL Tie rods Hi Pierre ?????????? I'm not sure how to tell the difference, these appear to be good quality. They are marked on the bottom of each end 'Made in Great Britian'. and on the rubber boots they are marked 09-121-9. ???????????????????????????????? Regards Ben Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090609/71f01119/attachment.html> From hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu Tue Jun 9 07:25:53 2009 From: hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu (Hank and Sally Manwell) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 07:25:53 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000TC front shock bushings References: <8C8538FBD28E412EBCDA3FF0DE6E6DFB@sherbrooke> <C2BBE8DEDCA54F2EAFCBE7CB97A350F3@your7745395e08> <4A2DDAC0.8050104@alum.swarthmore.edu> Message-ID: <CD6EEA75EDBA42588567C1D8D72965B4@your7745395e08> Thanks to all for the shocking responses. Steve, it would be great if you could bring those shocks to Dirk's this weekend. In the meantime I'll piece something together from Plan B or C. I'll take the drive out to the barn this afternoon to see what shocks linger on old suspension units out there, the newest of which may be from the Dan's 3500 we broke up a while ago. I wonder whether they would fit dimensionally, even if the damping is perhaps stiffer. There are others from cars we stripped up to 30 years ago. I wonder at the odds of any working units on those. Then there is the "twin" car here with close to 100k miles on it, but no rust. Those shocks could be pulled and may sufficiently work for the short term. As to bushings I've found some thirty year old NOS bushings around which will work for a bit it the hard rubber can be compressed enough to get the cotter in place on the bottom stud. The nut on the top stud surely will compress the hardest bushings enough to work for the short term. A couple of these NOS bushings are "hard as a rock"! Given your numbers, Steve, I'll stop at the local Monroe dealer to see if they could possibly be ordered. I can see this saga will continue for a while, but the car will get to Fitchburg! Hank ----- Original Message ----- From: "S Manwell" <s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 11:45 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000TC front shock bushings > Dad and all, > > I have a pair of shocks here sold to me at an autojumble in England as > new P6 front shocks. They are labeled Monroe Belgium and have numbers > B8E73 and 3208 on them. They unfortunately have no bushings. They feel > like they have more resistance extending than compressing. > > I may be able to get these shocks to you before the meet, or at least at > the meet. > > A quick look on Moss Motors website and they do not list bushings > separately for rear shocks. > > Does NAPA or any others list shock bushings by dimension rather than > application? Maybe something oversize could be cut down. > > --Steve > From MarkCoorparoo at aol.com Tue Jun 9 08:42:57 2009 From: MarkCoorparoo at aol.com (MarkCoorparoo at aol.com) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 08:42:57 EDT Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 tc advance curve? Message-ID: <d10.4f05dc7c.375fb2d1@aol.com> Hi All, My money is on the 123. If you have a Carb. car, you pull the Kettering Stuff and drop the 123 in the hole. Make sure you have the right bit with the right gear on the bottom. From memory the 123 has 16 immediately diallable advance curves. So, if you get the right 123, installed, you go for a drive, to dial it in. Then you realise the other probs that you have to solve. CD type carbs are so hard to get perfect but then Webers you need boxes of jets, emulsion tubes, chokes and maybe even completely different bodies. Sort the 123, then the CD's (or S.U.'s), go over them again and drive the gadget. If things are not coming right check comps, valve timing and bump lift. A fail here prob means a head off for "FingerNail" Bore Test. Petrol test on the Valves and a Dial Guage on the Bump Stick. If I get far enough down the track and build a Full House Carb Rover V8, I'll drop 123 in if I can afford it. I'll try Jaycar kit stuff first if I have the time. 123 in Oz. is about 2/3 of a weeks take-home pay in my round town death trap. 123 is probably worth it for the reduction in pain and suffering. I have said enough. Regards, MWJ. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090609/656b4db9/attachment.html> From slatskars at comcast.net Tue Jun 9 11:36:59 2009 From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 15:36:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 tc advance curve? In-Reply-To: <d10.4f05dc7c.375fb2d1@aol.com> Message-ID: <555896651.2299591244561819609.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I am still mystified as to why one would choose an after market distributor over having the original rebuilt to the proper specifications at one-third of the cost. The originals were good for many hundreds of thousands of miles and can be converted to electronic with a Pertronix for under $100. Slats ----- Original Message ----- From: MarkCoorparoo at aol.com To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 5:42:57 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 tc advance curve? ?? Hi All, ??????????? My money is on the 123. If you have a Carb. car, you pull the Kettering Stuff and drop the 123 in the hole. Make sure you have the right bit with the right gear on the bottom.? From memory the 123 has 16 immediately diallable advance curves. ??? So, if you get the right 123, installed, you go for a drive, to dial it in. Then you realise the other probs that you have to solve. CD type carbs are so hard to get perfect but then Webers you need boxes of jets, emulsion tubes, chokes and maybe even completely different bodies. ?? Sort the 123, then the CD's (or S.U.'s), go over them again and drive the gadget. If things are not coming right check comps, valve timing and bump lift. A fail here prob means a head off for "FingerNail"? Bore Test. Petrol test on the Valves and a Dial Guage? on the Bump Stick. ??? If I get far enough down the track and build a Full House Carb Rover V8, I'll drop 123 in if I can afford it. I'll try Jaycar kit stuff first if I have the time. 123 in Oz. is about 2/3 of a weeks take-home pay in my round town death trap. 123 is probably worth it for the reduction in pain and suffering.? I have said enough. ??? Regards, ?????????????????? MWJ. _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090609/e1dd93dc/attachment.html> From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Jun 9 11:39:16 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 08:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL Tie rods Message-ID: <805356.66130.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ben, The picture of one repro side rod I have seen on eBay and on the producing company's website looks like two track rod ends with a short connecting bar. I haven't seen one "in the flesh".? That production method would suit an "economy of scale" as they also sell.............track rod ends? :-) ? Eric Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ Webmaster of a variety of sites from: http://www.websrus.ca --- On Tue, 6/9/09, BEN RODGERS <irishrover1 at sympatico.ca> wrote: From: BEN RODGERS <irishrover1 at sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL Tie rods To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Received: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 3:33 AM ? Hi Pierre ?????????? I'm not sure how to tell the difference, these appear to be good quality. They are marked on the bottom of each end 'Made in Great Britian'. and on the rubber boots they are marked 09-121-9. ???????????????????????????????? Regards Ben Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer? 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <555896651.2299591244561819609.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <d10.4f05dc7c.375fb2d1@aol.com> <555896651.2299591244561819609.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <BAY106-W1015156E14451790BD5017B0440@phx.gbl> Hi Slats, as I've mentioned I've had very little luck with a Pertronix unit used with my dizzy and a dynamo charged system. It may be an issue somewhere else but I think not. So Say I got another Pertornix unit (as I have donated my old one to a friend's car) That's $100- add the cost of a rebuild and re-curve $100- to $130- We're up to $230-. The gap has closed a bit. Now if I buy an after market dizzy that allows me to modify the curve with relative ease while it's still installed in the car that helps for a number of scenarios. (1) I find that the curve on my car as set by the factory is not suitable for today's fuel or driving conditions. (2) I decide to move home to the UK and bring the car with me (I would choose to do it as I'm already very fond of my car, besides if I didn't the wife would leave me for the car :-) ) I would need to re-curve again. (3) If do get the chance to try 100 octane under certain shady circumstances and would like to see how the car is meant to run. I can easily change the curve for that period. Now I know that Jeff at advanced distributors is really good and as yet I haven't made a definate choice to go down the aftermarket route but I have pretty much had it with my 25D4 and it's strange behavior. I'll give Jeff a call once he's back from vacation (this Thursday I think) and see what happens. But it doesn't hurt to check out the options, especially if I have the above scenarios to consider. Thanks for your comments though, they do make me think about these things a little harder and make sure I'm doing the right thing. Cheers, Steven From vmitps at netspace.net.au Tue Jun 9 17:49:47 2009 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 07:49:47 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000TC front shock bushings In-Reply-To: <4A2DD1FB.4050302@att.net> References: <8C8538FBD28E412EBCDA3FF0DE6E6DFB@sherbrooke><C2BBE8DEDCA54F2EAFCBE7CB97A350F3@your7745395e08> <4A2DD1FB.4050302@att.net> Message-ID: <9236962CCEE94816BD2D15E1F56C4415@Vista> Shocks are valved stiffer on the rebound. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at att.net> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000TC front shock bushings > Hi Hank, > As I recall there was some dispute over the P6 front shocks. Some claimed > the Koni shocks listed were valved backwards for use on a P6. Remember > they expand on jounce and compress on rebound, unlike most, if not all, > conventional shock installations. A 50/50 valving should work...or am I > getting senile? Don't anyone answer that. > > Roving toward RoveAmerica, > Kent K. > > Hank and Sally Manwell wrote: >> Thanks, Ruth, >> And now to try for complete shocks.. >> Hank > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From phing at videotron.ca Tue Jun 9 22:22:48 2009 From: phing at videotron.ca (Patrick Hiron) Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 22:22:48 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rovernet - P4 springs was INTERNATIONAL Tie rods In-Reply-To: <718938.16810.qm@web86006.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <460055170.1590481244408349604.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <BLU0-SMTP91681D562167F6A95FC01395470@phx.gbl> <A2AB7D9D94414041854A3F8ED13C3E8B@IandAlicePC> <BLU0-SMTP1003E41A1344AA7B37114CC95470@phx.gbl> <718938.16810.qm@web86006.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001201c9e972$595efa30$0c1cee90$@ca> Alan There are lots of people in the UK who can rebuild leaf springs , fabricate new leaves etc , look in the small ads of The Automobile [ The superior motoring magazine for ? our type of motor car ? ], or Practical Comics ? the Bodgers magazine; to find a local shop Cheers Patrick From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of JULIET KEILER Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 3:16 AM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL Tie rods They're worth what someones prepared to pay ;) (flippant answer) You could Ebay them to see the 'market' value. (serious answer) Seriously though Ben I will have need of a pair in the future as part of my '64 rebuild. What make are they? Genuine Rover or Quinton Hazell? There are some remanufactured ones on Ebay but the quality of these always worrys me as past experiences of 're-manufactured' parts suggest the quality of them can be considerably less than the original, in the case of a top ball joint failing after 18 months. I now find myself in the situation of having to buy a new rear spring for the P4 as the top leaf has broken and it's failed is annual Ministry test (MOT). have no choice but to cross fingers and but a pattern part. :( Regards Alan Francis (partviking) _____ From: BEN RODGERS <irishrover1 at sympatico.ca> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Monday, 8 June, 2009 11:40:55 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL Tie rods ? Hi Ian I thank you for your kind offer, but I'm not in need of parts. I have to brand new ones here that someone wants to buy, but I have no idea what they are worth. Regards Ben Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090609/a9e91cfb/attachment.html> From slatskars at comcast.net Wed Jun 10 01:18:17 2009 From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 05:18:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 tc advance curve? In-Reply-To: <BAY106-W1015156E14451790BD5017B0440@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <1829476109.2658501244611097842.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Hi Steven, If the Pertronix worked in the other car, then it was not the Pertronix that was the problem. It may still be an ignition problem however. All the Pertronix does is replace the mechanical switch (the points) with an electronic one. And all either of them do is create a 12 volt DC square wave for the coil (a transformer) to amplify into 20,000-30,000 volts. The mechanical and or vacuum advance can make quite a bit of difference. I have torn down probably 25 to 30 25D4's over the past few months and some of the things that I found are astounding. The mechanical portions are very easy to analyze to wear, sticking, etc. In reality the only really big thing in the distributor, are the springs and cam. If all is free to move and not overly worn, the cam limits how far the maximum mechanical advance will travel and the springs govern the rate. There are only?two types of weights that I have seen, so that is not a big factor. The cam has a number stamped on it that gives the maximum number of degrees that it will advance. If you want more, you simply grind off a little metal and it will advance further. If you want less, weld a little metal on or put a sleeve on the post that it contacts. If you have the correct cam and weights, all that leaves?are the springs. You can basically make any 25D4 into whatever you want it to be by changing the cam, weights and particularly the springs. So, Jeff could modify yours to meet the specifications that should be correct for you engine and fuel very easily. That is after ensuring that all else (bushings, freedom of movement and correct components) is as should be. The problem may or may not be the distributor. I recently worked on my wife's 92 Toyota Previa, that was running poorly. All it took was a new set of spark plugs.?It only had 106,000 on the plugs. I must say, 210,000 miles on the vehicle and I have had to change the plugs twice already. I miss-read the owners manual, it says 100,000 kms not 100,000 miles. It is a real bother to change those plugs with that mid-engine mounting. First you remove the passenger seat, than a panel, then a cover, etc, etc. It is about a two hour job to change four plugs. I would bet that if you giot into your distributor, you will find that it probably has the cam stuck to the center shaft and it will not turn freely. That is why you are supposed to put a drop or two of oil down on the screw under the rotor. If you do choose to investigate and attempt repairs yourself, use a little (very little)distributor cam grease (lube) on any surface that shows signs of rubbing or wear. You might be amazed at the results, when everything is free to move. A Pertronix would do nothing for these types of things. Good luck. Slats ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Dibdin" <sdibdin at hotmail.com> To: "RoverNet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 11:35:00 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 tc advance curve? Hi Slats, as I've mentioned I've had very little luck with a Pertronix unit used with my dizzy and a dynamo charged system. It may be an issue somewhere else but I think not. So Say I got another Pertornix unit (as I have donated my old one to a friend's car) That's $100- add the cost of a rebuild and re-curve $100- to $130- We're up to $230-. The gap has closed a bit. Now if I buy an after market dizzy that allows me to modify the curve with relative ease while it's still installed in the car that helps for a number of scenarios. (1) I find that the curve on my car as set by the factory is not suitable for today's fuel or driving conditions. (2) I decide to move home to the UK and bring the car with me (I would choose to do it as I'm already very fond of my car, besides if I didn't the wife would leave me for the car :-) ) I would need to re-curve again. (3) If do get the chance to try 100 octane under certain shady circumstances and would like to see how the car is meant to run. I can easily change the curve for that period. Now I know that Jeff at advanced distributors is really good and as yet I haven't made a definate choice to go down the aftermarket route but I have pretty much had it with my 25D4 and it's strange behavior. I'll give Jeff a call once he's back from vacation (this Thursday I think) and see what happens. But it doesn't hurt to check out the options, especially if I have the above scenarios to consider. Thanks for your comments though, they do make me think about these things a little harder and make sure I'm doing the right thing. Cheers, Steven _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090610/e8e89a4b/attachment-0001.html> From lingfield51 at btinternet.com Wed Jun 10 03:40:24 2009 From: lingfield51 at btinternet.com (JULIET KEILER) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 07:40:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rovernet - P4 springs was INTERNATIONAL Tie rods In-Reply-To: <001201c9e972$595efa30$0c1cee90$@ca> References: <460055170.1590481244408349604.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <BLU0-SMTP91681D562167F6A95FC01395470@phx.gbl> <A2AB7D9D94414041854A3F8ED13C3E8B@IandAlicePC> <BLU0-SMTP1003E41A1344AA7B37114CC95470@phx.gbl> <718938.16810.qm@web86006.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <001201c9e972$595efa30$0c1cee90$@ca> Message-ID: <522305.84381.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Thanks for the tip Patrick, The problem I had was getting the old one off, getting it rebuilt and getting it back on within the 10 day period to avoid the ?54 re-test fee. In the overall scheme of things not fortunes but nice to avoid having to pay it if you can. Fortunately Pierre Janusz has come through with one which I'm collecting tonight, I can then get the old one rebuilt by Brost Forge in London (recommended by two P4 forum members) at my liesure and replace the other side as I'm sure poor old Aunty will be a little 'drunk' at the rear end once the new on is on! Regards Alan (partviking) ________________________________ From: Patrick Hiron <phing at videotron.ca> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Wednesday, 10 June, 2009 3:22:48 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rovernet - P4 springs was INTERNATIONAL Tie rods Alan There are lots of people in the UK who can rebuild leaf springs , fabricate new leaves etc , look in the small ads of The Automobile [ The superior motoring magazine for ? our type of motor car ? ], or Practical Comics ? the Bodgers magazine; to find a local shop Cheers Patrick From:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of JULIET KEILER Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 3:16 AM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL Tie rods They're worth what someones prepared to pay ;) (flippant answer) You could Ebay them to see the 'market' value. (serious answer) Seriously though Ben I will have need of a pair in the future as part of my '64 rebuild. What make are they? Genuine Rover or Quinton Hazell? There are some remanufactured ones on Ebay but the quality of these always worrys me as past experiences of 're-manufactured' parts suggest the quality of them can be considerably less than the original, in the case of a top ball joint failing after 18 months. I now find myself in the situation of having to buy a new rear spring for the P4 as the top leaf has broken and it's failed is annual Ministry test (MOT). have no choice but to cross fingers and but a pattern part. :( Regards Alan Francis (partviking) ________________________________ From:BEN RODGERS <irishrover1 at sympatico.ca> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Monday, 8 June, 2009 11:40:55 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL Tie rods ? Hi Ian I thank you for your kind offer, but I'm not in need of parts. I have to brand new ones here that someone wants to buy, but I have no idea what they are worth. Regards Ben Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090610/2259af72/attachment.html> From sdibdin at hotmail.com Wed Jun 10 08:00:36 2009 From: sdibdin at hotmail.com (Steven Dibdin) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:00:36 +0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 tc advance curve? In-Reply-To: <1829476109.2658501244611097842.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <BAY106-W1015156E14451790BD5017B0440@phx.gbl> <1829476109.2658501244611097842.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <BAY106-W71725122A18BC2ABE7FE5B0450@phx.gbl> HI Slats, I don't know if my friend has fitted the pertornix (hes back home in London, i'll have to email him). But it seemed that the dwell (virtual I know) was too narrow. The Crane unit I fitted however worked great apart from an irregular spark on No.1 plug. I think that was down to internal arcing to the mounitng hardware for the optical trigger inside the cap. I used silicon rubber as a insulator (At Crane's service tech's suggestion) and that certainly helped the situation, but not completely. I think I'll give Jeff a call tomowwor when he's back. I know the cams are fine, and they move freely, my guiess is the springs have had it and some! Cheers, Steven -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090610/1cb8bc6a/attachment.html> From ABoasberg at webtv.net Wed Jun 10 08:43:10 2009 From: ABoasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 05:43:10 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S Muffler Needed In-Reply-To: S Manwell <s_manwell@alum.swarthmore.edu>'s message of Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:45:04 -0400 Message-ID: <11385-4A2FAA5E-552@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> I need a new forward muffler for this car. The current one is a Bosal, but I don't know if it is an original part and if so, where to get a replacement. What other makes are available for this car? Thanks for any help. Albert From phing at videotron.ca Wed Jun 10 10:48:14 2009 From: phing at videotron.ca (Patrick Hiron) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:48:14 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S Muffler Needed In-Reply-To: <11385-4A2FAA5E-552@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> References: "08 Jun 2009 23:45:04 -0400" <11385-4A2FAA5E-552@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <001201c9e9da$7c8b8330$75a28990$@ca> Albert My P6B has no front muffler , some one had replaced it with a straight pipe . It sounds like a power boat ticking over on the dock at idle and nicely mellow on the road . Try it before looking for another muffler Cheers Patrick -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Albert Boasberg Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:43 AM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S Muffler Needed I need a new forward muffler for this car. The current one is a Bosal, but I don't know if it is an original part and if so, where to get a replacement. What other makes are available for this car? Thanks for any help. Albert _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From anders at xoz.dk Wed Jun 10 11:23:15 2009 From: anders at xoz.dk (Anders Hedelund) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:23:15 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S Muffler Needed In-Reply-To: <11385-4A2FAA5E-552@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> References: <11385-4A2FAA5E-552@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <4A2FCFE3.4070007@xoz.dk> The ultimate thing is an 'as original' in stainless steel from P. D. Gough in the UK: http://www.pdgough.com/ I bought systems for the P6 and others. Every section will fit nicely. ..Anders, Copenhagen, Denmark From lingfield51 at btinternet.com Wed Jun 10 11:46:20 2009 From: lingfield51 at btinternet.com (JULIET KEILER) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:46:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S Muffler Needed In-Reply-To: <001201c9e9da$7c8b8330$75a28990$@ca> References: "08 Jun 2009 23:45:04 -0400" <11385-4A2FAA5E-552@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> <001201c9e9da$7c8b8330$75a28990$@ca> Message-ID: <541138.63134.qm@web86006.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Early P6 systems gave Rover a few headaches (as well as their customers) as they struggled to get rid of the droning resonance that afflicted the cars. They eventually settled on a 2 can system which had the tailpipe silencer and the other short one as it goes over the driveshafts and then eventually changed to the 3 can system that added the small silencer under the gearbox . Both had a straight through pipe to the first silencer. However they all fit (though not all the parts may be interchangeable) and personally I quite like the 'throb' of a 4 pot P6. My 64 car has the silencer in the downpipe between the naifold and the starter motor and sounds Grrreeaaattttttt! :) Alan Francis (partviking) ________________________________ From: Patrick Hiron <phing at videotron.ca> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Wednesday, 10 June, 2009 3:48:14 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S Muffler Needed Albert My P6B has no front muffler , some one had replaced it with a straight pipe . It sounds like a power boat ticking over on the dock at idle and nicely mellow on the road . Try it before looking for another muffler Cheers Patrick -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Albert Boasberg Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:43 AM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S Muffler Needed I need a new forward muffler for this car. The current one is a Bosal, but I don't know if it is an original part and if so, where to get a replacement. What other makes are available for this car? Thanks for any help. Albert _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It sounds like a power boat ticking over on the dock at idle and nicely mellow on the road . Try it before looking for another muffler Cheers Patrick -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Albert Boasberg Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:43 AM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S Muffler Needed I need a new forward muffler for this car. The current one is a Bosal, but I don't know if it is an original part and if so, where to get a replacement. What other makes are available for this car? Thanks for any help. 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090611/f522adb0/attachment.html> From roger.matheson at bigpond.com Thu Jun 11 06:30:50 2009 From: roger.matheson at bigpond.com (Roger.Matheson) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:30:50 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Heater hose Message-ID: <007b01c9ea7f$b0d7f920$0100000a@homea7f046a5f4> Hi All, Does anyone know of a source for the lower heater hose for the P6 2000 TC. My September 74 book refers to the part number as 574876. No go with Scotts. Can it be made from a more common V8 hose ? Also the 90 degree hose from the top of the thermostat housing that connects with the steel pipe that extends down the length of the block and into the top heater hose. Part number 574873. Thanks Cheers from Oz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090611/b6580c15/attachment.html> From irishrover1 at sympatico.ca Thu Jun 11 06:34:43 2009 From: irishrover1 at sympatico.ca (BEN RODGERS) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:34:43 -0300 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] I'm Back !! I think ...lol References: <COL114-W2626380831298621C79DB7DE420@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP46A9B4D717B8C4A25B9FF795420@phx.gbl> hi Dennis Welcome back! Ben. Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090611/25864baf/attachment.html> From vern at inkspotco.com Thu Jun 11 12:17:02 2009 From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:17:02 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Heater hose In-Reply-To: <007b01c9ea7f$b0d7f920$0100000a@homea7f046a5f4> References: <007b01c9ea7f$b0d7f920$0100000a@homea7f046a5f4> Message-ID: <5EB35BD3-7B91-483F-9B6A-A86C3D9801FF@inkspotco.com> Ruth or Pierre can help you out. Both hoses are tough to fake, they both have different diameters at either end. Yours Vern On 11-Jun-09, at 3:30 AM, Roger.Matheson wrote: > Hi All, > > Does anyone know of a source for the lower heater hose for the P6 > 2000 TC. My September 74 book refers to the part number as 574876. > No go with Scotts. Can it be made from a more common V8 hose ? > > Also the 90 degree hose from the top of the thermostat housing that > connects with the steel pipe that extends down the length of the > block and into the top heater hose. Part number 574873. > > Thanks > > Cheers from Oz > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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AvMedSafe Geff and Julie McCarthy 677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR 97210 503-241-8468 503-799-3809 mobile From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Vern Klukas Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:17 AM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Heater hose Ruth or Pierre can help you out. Both hoses are tough to fake, they both have different diameters at either end. Yours Vern On 11-Jun-09, at 3:30 AM, Roger.Matheson wrote: Hi All, Does anyone know of a source for the lower heater hose for the P6 2000 TC. My September 74 book refers to the part number as 574876. No go with Scotts. Can it be made from a more common V8 hose ? Also the 90 degree hose from the top of the thermostat housing that connects with the steel pipe that extends down the length of the block and into the top heater hose. Part number 574873. Thanks Cheers from Oz _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090611/8a0a3256/attachment.html> From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Thu Jun 11 13:10:17 2009 From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:10:17 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Heater Hose. In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1244736006.23540.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> References: <mailman.1.1244736006.23540.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <SNT105-W36DEAD7218D73E4D49CCE98E420@phx.gbl> : > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:30:50 +1000 > From: "Roger.Matheson" <roger.matheson at bigpond.com> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Heater hose > To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <007b01c9ea7f$b0d7f920$0100000a at homea7f046a5f4> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi All, > > Does anyone know of a source for the lower heater hose for the P6 2000 TC. My September 74 book refers to the part number as 574876. No go with Scotts. Can it be made from a more common V8 hose ? > > Also the 90 degree hose from the top of the thermostat housing that connects with the steel pipe that extends down the length of the block and into the top heater hose. Part number 574873. > > Thanks > > Cheers from Oz > The last time I replaced those hoses on my Rover 2000 automatic, I matched them up at Sprint autoparts. I think that the heater hoses are common to a JD Camira, and an XF Falcon. I did write down what they were, but that note book is over the other side of the world. Find a friendly parts store which will let you got out the back and match up through all the hoses they have there, and you should be able to find one which matches. Sprint Edwardstown, Adelaide is where I did this. James. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090611/b14c60ae/attachment.html> From RoverP6 at gmx.de Thu Jun 11 13:33:27 2009 From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:33:27 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Who is owning this P6 ? References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com><E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw> <2i52255ivgkgff1jvm35nvv96m269ll2da@4ax.com> Message-ID: <F73357BA6F404D959265A69E86AD5B4B@rw> Found this one on flickr: http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Rover&w=46945310%40N00 Rudiger www.RoverP6.info From RoverP6 at gmx.de Thu Jun 11 13:45:33 2009 From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:45:33 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Nice Italian P6 3500 S ! References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com><E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw><2i52255ivgkgff1jvm35nvv96m269ll2da@4ax.com> <F73357BA6F404D959265A69E86AD5B4B@rw> Message-ID: <A0820CBD8A5143D4A6C879AEEAF9B4AC@rw> http://www.flickr.com/photos/29295059 at N06/3607512270/in/photostream/ Rudiger www.RoverP6.info From adrian.mcdonald at live.com Thu Jun 11 14:04:49 2009 From: adrian.mcdonald at live.com (Adrian McDonald) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:04:49 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Who is owning this P6 ? In-Reply-To: <F73357BA6F404D959265A69E86AD5B4B@rw> References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com><E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw> <2i52255ivgkgff1jvm35nvv96m269ll2da@4ax.com> <F73357BA6F404D959265A69E86AD5B4B@rw> Message-ID: <COL114-W3791C8E0784DC7EF0239B9E420@phx.gbl> Hi I am restoring a 3500S in Los Angeles but this is not mine. Funnily enough mine will be black too but it won't be a right hander like this one. And it won't look as good as this either I am sure. And I thought my car was rare in LA. Not as rare as this!!!! Nice job, whoever owns this...... Adrian > From: RoverP6 at gmx.de > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:33:27 +0200 > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Who is owning this P6 ? > > > Found this one on flickr: > > http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Rover&w=46945310%40N00 > > > Rudiger > www.RoverP6.info > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? 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It's odd that they went to all that trouble and didn't get the steering wheel in the right place... Glen From rovercar at comcast.net Thu Jun 11 14:24:57 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:24:57 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Nice Italian P6 3500 S ! In-Reply-To: <A0820CBD8A5143D4A6C879AEEAF9B4AC@rw> References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com><E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw><2i52255ivgkgff1jvm35nvv96m269ll2da@4ax.com> <F73357BA6F404D959265A69E86AD5B4B@rw> <A0820CBD8A5143D4A6C879AEEAF9B4AC@rw> Message-ID: <4A314BF9.9020907@comcast.net> RoverP6 at gmx.de wrote: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/29295059 at N06/3607512270/in/photostream/ > > > Rudiger > www.RoverP6.info Now, this one has the steering wheel in the right place! Glen From jLewis at wsscwater.com Thu Jun 11 14:38:12 2009 From: jLewis at wsscwater.com (Lewis, Joseph (Michael)) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:38:12 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Who is owning this P6 ? In-Reply-To: <4A314B8F.7080300@comcast.net> References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com><E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw> <2i52255ivgkgff1jvm35nvv96m269ll2da@4ax.com><F73357BA6F404D959265A69E86AD5B4B@rw><COL114-W3791C8E0784DC7EF0239B9E420@phx.gbl> <4A314B8F.7080300@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1A1EBE4A9FAEEB42911D577E08CA792204D1BB78@COB-EXV-01.wssc.ad.root> Glad to see you're back Glen. I see you're tryin to make enemies on the other side of the pond now. Nice!!! J. Michael Lewis 1980 SD1 -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Glen Wilson Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 2:23 PM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Who is owning this P6 ? Adrian McDonald wrote: > Hi > > I am restoring a 3500S in Los Angeles but this is not mine. Funnily enough mine will be black too but it won't be a right hander like this one. And it won't look as good as this either I am sure. And I thought my car was rare in LA. Not as rare as this!!!! Nice job, whoever owns this...... > > Adrian > Beautiful! It's odd that they went to all that trouble and didn't get the steering wheel in the right place... Glen _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From david at davidwalter.net Thu Jun 11 14:54:17 2009 From: david at davidwalter.net (David Walter) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:54:17 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Who is owning this P6 ? In-Reply-To: <4A314B8F.7080300@comcast.net> References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com><E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw> <2i52255ivgkgff1jvm35nvv96m269ll2da@4ax.com><F73357BA6F404D959265A69E86AD5B4B@rw><COL114-W3791C8E0784DC7EF0239B9E420@phx.gbl> <4A314B8F.7080300@comcast.net> Message-ID: <28DDA033954B42ADA219096CAEBCDA2F@DavidVista> This is my Rover P6B, I drove her the 125 miles each way to the LA Concourse on Sunday and received 2nd place in class for my efforts.. Glenn, I have to tell you, the steering is on the "right side" not the wrong side or even the other side" She has all Rover original options including power steering, Rover factory air conditioning, power windows, the original leather seats, leather bound steering wheel, touring kit on the boot, Lucas lights (which work as does the clock which surprises the judges, I restored the clock movement myself). I brought her with me when I moved to California, hence the steering wheel is on the "right side". David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Wilson" <rovercar at comcast.net> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Who is owning this P6 ? > Adrian McDonald wrote: >> Hi >> I am restoring a 3500S in Los Angeles but this is not mine. Funnily >> enough mine will be black too but it won't be a right hander like this >> one. And it won't look as good as this either I am sure. And I thought my >> car was rare in LA. Not as rare as this!!!! Nice job, whoever owns >> this...... >> Adrian >> > > Beautiful! > > It's odd that they went to all that trouble and didn't get the steering > wheel in the right place... > > Glen > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From adrian.mcdonald at live.com Thu Jun 11 15:12:19 2009 From: adrian.mcdonald at live.com (Adrian McDonald) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:12:19 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Who is owning this P6 ? In-Reply-To: <28DDA033954B42ADA219096CAEBCDA2F@DavidVista> References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com><E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw> <2i52255ivgkgff1jvm35nvv96m269ll2da@4ax.com><F73357BA6F404D959265A69E86AD5B4B@rw><COL114-W3791C8E0784DC7EF0239B9E420@phx.gbl> <4A314B8F.7080300@comcast.net> <28DDA033954B42ADA219096CAEBCDA2F@DavidVista> Message-ID: <COL114-W62FF19ADE19EF64465FB0B9E420@phx.gbl> David Nice car! Let me know where you live; I will come round and steal your wire wheels for my '69!! If you come back and find the car on bricks you know who's been 'round to call..... Adrian (also expat, of course) ---------------------------------------- > From: david at davidwalter.net > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:54:17 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Who is owning this P6 ? > > This is my Rover P6B, I drove her the 125 miles each way to the LA Concourse > on Sunday and received 2nd place in class for my efforts.. > > Glenn, I have to tell you, the steering is on the "right side" not the wrong > side or even the > other side" > > She has all Rover original options including power steering, Rover factory > air conditioning, power windows, the original leather seats, leather bound > steering wheel, touring kit on the boot, Lucas lights (which work as does > the clock which surprises the judges, I restored the clock movement myself). > I brought her with me when I moved to California, hence the steering wheel > is on the "right side". > > David > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glen Wilson" > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:23 AM > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Who is owning this P6 ? > > >> Adrian McDonald wrote: >>> Hi >>> I am restoring a 3500S in Los Angeles but this is not mine. Funnily >>> enough mine will be black too but it won't be a right hander like this >>> one. And it won't look as good as this either I am sure. And I thought my >>> car was rare in LA. Not as rare as this!!!! Nice job, whoever owns >>> this...... >>> Adrian >>> >> >> Beautiful! >> >> It's odd that they went to all that trouble and didn't get the steering >> wheel in the right place... >> >> Glen >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 From sdibdin at hotmail.com Thu Jun 11 15:23:48 2009 From: sdibdin at hotmail.com (Steven Dibdin) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:23:48 +0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Nice Italian P6 3500 S ! In-Reply-To: <4A314BF9.9020907@comcast.net> References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com><E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw><2i52255ivgkgff1jvm35nvv96m269ll2da@4ax.com> <F73357BA6F404D959265A69E86AD5B4B@rw> <A0820CBD8A5143D4A6C879AEEAF9B4AC@rw> <4A314BF9.9020907@comcast.net> Message-ID: <BAY106-W223E43741364997B5DCBAB0420@phx.gbl> "Now, this one has the steering wheel in the right place!" What, Italy? From david at davidwalter.net Thu Jun 11 17:13:00 2009 From: david at davidwalter.net (David Walter) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:13:00 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Who is owning this P6 ? In-Reply-To: <COL114-W62FF19ADE19EF64465FB0B9E420@phx.gbl> References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com><E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw><2i52255ivgkgff1jvm35nvv96m269ll2da@4ax.com><F73357BA6F404D959265A69E86AD5B4B@rw><COL114-W3791C8E0784DC7EF0239B9E420@phx.gbl><4A314B8F.7080300@comcast.net><28DDA033954B42ADA219096CAEBCDA2F@DavidVista> <COL114-W62FF19ADE19EF64465FB0B9E420@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <59D04502131A43A982782DBC5B5DC8EC@DavidVista> Adrian, now I know where to keep an eye out for wire wheels... I live in the Santa Ynez valley if you are ever this way. If you are hoping to show your P6 and it will have wire wheels don't have them chromed or use a stainless steel exhaust system, if you do you will loose points. The judges commented they were pleased to see paint on the wheels and steel mufflers. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian McDonald" <adrian.mcdonald at live.com> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Who is owning this P6 ? David Nice car! Let me know where you live; I will come round and steal your wire wheels for my '69!! If you come back and find the car on bricks you know who's been 'round to call..... Adrian (also expat, of course) ---------------------------------------- > From: david at davidwalter.net > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:54:17 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Who is owning this P6 ? > > This is my Rover P6B, I drove her the 125 miles each way to the LA > Concourse > on Sunday and received 2nd place in class for my efforts.. > > Glenn, I have to tell you, the steering is on the "right side" not the > wrong > side or even the > other side" > > She has all Rover original options including power steering, Rover factory > air conditioning, power windows, the original leather seats, leather bound > steering wheel, touring kit on the boot, Lucas lights (which work as does > the clock which surprises the judges, I restored the clock movement > myself). > I brought her with me when I moved to California, hence the steering wheel > is on the "right side". > > David > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glen Wilson" > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:23 AM > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Who is owning this P6 ? > > >> Adrian McDonald wrote: >>> Hi >>> I am restoring a 3500S in Los Angeles but this is not mine. Funnily >>> enough mine will be black too but it won't be a right hander like this >>> one. And it won't look as good as this either I am sure. And I thought >>> my >>> car was rare in LA. Not as rare as this!!!! Nice job, whoever owns >>> this...... >>> Adrian >>> >> >> Beautiful! >> >> It's odd that they went to all that trouble and didn't get the steering >> wheel in the right place... >> >> Glen >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >> no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From rovercar at comcast.net Thu Jun 11 20:31:52 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:31:52 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Who is owning this P6 ? In-Reply-To: <28DDA033954B42ADA219096CAEBCDA2F@DavidVista> References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com><E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw> <2i52255ivgkgff1jvm35nvv96m269ll2da@4ax.com><F73357BA6F404D959265A69E86AD5B4B@rw><COL114-W3791C8E0784DC7EF0239B9E420@phx.gbl> <4A314B8F.7080300@comcast.net> <28DDA033954B42ADA219096CAEBCDA2F@DavidVista> Message-ID: <4A31A1F8.6000901@comcast.net> David Walter wrote: > This is my Rover P6B, I drove her the 125 miles each way to the LA > Concourse on Sunday and received 2nd place in class for my efforts.. > > Glenn, I have to tell you, the steering is on the "right side" not the > wrong side or even the > other side" David, This is a real beauty! I speak as one who was unable to adjust to driving my RHD P4. I'm a Wilson, but my English genetic mix must be somewhat watered down! ;-) Glen From RoverP6 at gmx.de Fri Jun 12 17:27:26 2009 From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 23:27:26 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Google Earth shows Rover P6 References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com><E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw><2i52255ivgkgff1jvm35nvv96m269ll2da@4ax.com><F73357BA6F404D959265A69E86AD5B4B@rw><COL114-W3791C8E0784DC7EF0239B9E420@phx.gbl><4A314B8F.7080300@comcast.net><28DDA033954B42ADA219096CAEBCDA2F@DavidVista><COL114-W62FF19ADE19EF64465FB0B9E420@phx.gbl> <59D04502131A43A982782DBC5B5DC8EC@DavidVista> Message-ID: <986E8AA23FF54C5D8BDD8CA7FF7D3559@rw> Just found a green P6 near Monaco ! If wanted, I could send a Google Earth kmz-file, showing the place (via "streetview") Rudiger www.RoverP6.info From ianalice at shaw.ca Fri Jun 12 19:22:54 2009 From: ianalice at shaw.ca (Alice and Ian Potts) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:22:54 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fw: Girling rear caliper Message-ID: <A200F420B82B44778E6F079BCC433373@IandAlicePC> ----- Original Message ----- From: Alice and Ian Potts To: Rovernet Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:48 PM Subject: Girling rear caliper Hi, guys......I am rebuilding a Girling rear caliper and need the small pin that operates the lever within the caliper housing. It is about half an inch long, one end bevelled to engage the spot on the lever. If anyone has one, please tape it against a cardboard and mail it to me at l975 Dogwood Drive, Courtenay, B. C. V9N-3B1 Canada. Contact me first at ianalice at shaw.ca and I'll arrange to send you it's cost plus postage. 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Adrian From: goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 00:04:29 -0300 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S problems I am trying to confirm visually the actual position of my valves in order to set my timing properly and KNOW for certain where TDC actually is...I simply want to remove the valve cover on the right bank (drivers side) and it appears that I need to remove the darned carb in order to just do it...is there any way to remove the cover without removing the carbs ? Internet Explorer 8 makes surfing easier. Get it now! _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 From goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com Sun Jun 14 07:18:59 2009 From: goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com (Dennis Brooks) Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 08:18:59 -0300 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S problems In-Reply-To: <COL114-W54B3EADE726C293ADFAB39E410@phx.gbl> References: <COL114-W5041DDAF36EAECC204EA9EDE410@phx.gbl> <COL114-W54B3EADE726C293ADFAB39E410@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <COL114-W1E297B1C0E98AFF39E4E6DE410@phx.gbl> I can move the flywheel with a socket..but I am not 100% sure if the TDC is on the intake or exhaust stroke...so by seeing the valves I figure this will be the way to be sure. I gave up on removing that carb neck...I presumed it was not possible...but now I will go back and try to get it off again ...thanks. > From: adrian.mcdonald at live.com > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 23:25:38 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S problems > > > I tried the same thing a while back and you don't have to take the whole carb off, only the inlet section fixed by three bolts (one of which is a pain to remove). I was also trying to find TDC and I gave up as the valve movement is so tiny it was impossible to do it. I wanted to do it properly and use a stop in the spark plug hole but I could not be bothered to take the radiator and the air conditioning cooler off to get at the flywheel. So I still don't know exactly where it is! > > Adrian > > > > From: goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 00:04:29 -0300 > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S problems > > > > I am trying to confirm visually the actual position of my valves in order to set my timing properly and KNOW for certain where TDC actually is...I simply want to remove the valve cover on the right bank (drivers side) and it appears that I need to remove the darned carb in order to just do it...is there any way to remove the cover without removing the carbs ? > > > > > Internet Explorer 8 makes surfing easier. Get it now! > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live? 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In the days when I was on the spanners, a hundred thousand mile dizzy was in a car that was 5-9 years old. There were exceptions such as Taxi's, which had their own maintenance regimes and the "Rep's" and Outback cars. A car that had been around "The Clock" was almost stuffed. The diff was probably OK, the body was tired and worn, dirty, chipped. A Manual GearBox needed help, had already had a clutch. Auto's had bigger probs, completly inscrutable. The head had been off for burnt Valves that also showed up a worn bore. You could drop a long motor in these things but they were never "Born Again". All the bits that you screwed back in let them down. They did go better but never went as new. The "OverHauled- ReGround" Bump Stick still had a worn dizzy drive gear on it. The dizzy dropped back in had a gear on the bottom that was three times more worn. Then there is the bush that has been shoved off to one side and all the slop that introduces. Then there are the advance plates, points cam, shaft etc. etc. etc. How much money do we have to spend to fix a worn dizzy. In Oz the Pro Spanners are charging $70 - 105 per hour Oz. An Oz Dollar gets about 80 US cents at the moment. How many hours are we going to spend fixing tired dizzies? Slats, the bloke you advertise is either very heroic or is taking shortcuts. His Dizzy is about $225 Oz including Vac.. A 123 is about $800 Oz and you can dial your own.. Brand New. We are not stuck with our ole mates guess at how our own donk works. Then there is them worn points plate bushes that never seem to get fixed. We have our Kettering points opening and shutting with the condenser to look after the electrical bounce like turning a tap off hard. Pertronix only replaces the Kettering Switch and condensor. All them other worn parts are still there. They do have their place, all you are replacing is the points. Easy.What about the springs, weights, pivots,etc. All been whirling around for decades. The 123 is a drop in replacement for an entire ignition, without going to a dizzy - less setup. Something like a spark box on the early Cozzie DFV's.. My only objections to 123 are cost, haven't had my hands on one and in certain circumstances, the Concource Problem. Slats, if I get into the situation where a 123 is the obvious solution, I will buy one. Give me a couple of years. Could say some more but the memory has shrunk. Regards All, MWJ. P.S. A little bit distracted at the moment. Have Le Mans Finish on the other screen. Sad, looks like Audi is going to get knocked off ( I have two Audi's) but it appears David Brabham, son of Jack, has been a driver of the leading Car. 38 minutes to go. Regards All. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 09:07:07 -0400 From: dmesmg at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S timing With respect to the 3500S TDC search: what about viewing the mark on the crank pulley against the timing marks on the timing cover? Is this method close enough? I imagine with the A/C and power steering that viewing these might be a bit difficult... Best regards, Dan On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 00:04:29 -0300 Dennis Brooks <goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com> writes: >>I am trying to confirm visually the actual position of my valves in order to set my timing properly and KNOW for >>certain where TDC actually is... ____________________________________________________________ Make the right decisions about your inheritance. Click here for more information. _________________________________________________________________ Attention all humans. We are your photos. 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.68/2175 - Release Date: 06/14/09 05:53:00 From irishrover1 at sympatico.ca Sun Jun 14 19:42:30 2009 From: irishrover1 at sympatico.ca (BEN RODGERS) Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:42:30 -0300 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S References: <22413-4A357F10-234@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP23C83BF2CDB2C785E1353995410@phx.gbl> Nice car Albert. Ben (irishrover) Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com From adrian.mcdonald at live.com Sun Jun 14 23:05:11 2009 From: adrian.mcdonald at live.com (Adrian McDonald) Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:05:11 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S In-Reply-To: <22413-4A357F10-234@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> References: Bill Robertson <rover2000nut@hotmail.com>'s message of Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:19:34 +0000 <22413-4A357F10-234@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <COL114-W51970E534F2F5697EE0ACE9E3E0@phx.gbl> Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am trying to do the same to my 3500S. I also have the 2000TC/3500S combo here in LA. I am thinking about having the interior re-upholstered and i love the color you selected, but the only thing that I am concened about is the price. What sort of wallet damage could one expect for the seats and door cards? PS. What's the exterior color? I like that too! Adrian ---------------------------------------- > From: ABoasberg at webtv.net > Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 15:52:00 -0700 > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S > > Dear Group: > > Let me know if you can view my car by using this link: > > http://community.webtv.net/ABoasberg/OUTOFATIMECAPSULE > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _________________________________________________________________ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that?s right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290 From rovercar at comcast.net Mon Jun 15 01:04:23 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 01:04:23 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica 2009 In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP23C83BF2CDB2C785E1353995410@phx.gbl> References: <22413-4A357F10-234@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> <BLU0-SMTP23C83BF2CDB2C785E1353995410@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <4A35D657.3080908@comcast.net> I just got back to the computer after enjoying all day Saturday at RoveAmerica 2009 hosted by Dirk Burrowes in Massachusetts. I was only able to be there for one of the three days (and yes, it was the day that featured all of the free food), but I had a simply wonderful time. I attended with my wife, Claire, my son, James, and my dog , Sherman (the dog is adopted; I didn't choose that name). All of us were made welcome and catered to for the whole day. As Rover meets go, this was a pretty spectacular event. I believe that around ten people arrived in Rovers of all sorts. These complimented Dirk's personal collection which is extensive. Dirk has some pretty special cars including three pre-war Rovers, two Cyclopses, and an exquisite little P3 75 which was in pieces only two weeks ago when I had a chance to stop by and visit Dirk. As I said, RoveAmerica 09 was a pretty spectacular shindig. The great thing about an event like this is that between the food, the cars, the people and the venue, it's not too hard to justify spending some serious travel money and using some precious vacation time in order to attend. I only traveled a few hundred miles, but I was finally able to meet some good Rover friends that live at a great distance. Some of you who have been on the Rovernet for a long time may be surprised to hear that I had never met Eric Russell (Vancouver, BC), Kent Kinard (San Antonio, TX) or Bill Daddis (Toronto, Ontario) in person. It was great to finally shake a hand or share a bear hug with someone you've been talking to on the internet for thirteen or fourteen years. I also had an opportunity to spend a little time with some Rover friends I hadn't seen for a few years and had fallen out of touch with. For me, this was a special and moving experience. There were a number of cars at this meet that might earn top honors in a concours judging and several that had traveled around the world once or twice to get to Fitchburg, but the highlight for me was seeing Dave LaChance coming down the road in his April Yellow 2000TC. Several years ago, Jose Scoseria and Tony Lavigna met me down in Falls Church, VA and helped me get this car out of the garage where it had sat for over 30 years and onto their trailer. I had promise the original owners that their beloved Rover would go to a good home and not end up in some junk yard. I didn't have the energy to do the job myself, but when Dave LaChance was looking for a Rover, I passed it on to him. I'm very proud that this slightly sorry-looking but rust-free beauty is now a runner and will evade the crusher for a good many years. Without the help of Jose and Tony, I could never have gotten this car back to my garage and save it from being scrapped. I hope they are reading this and feel as good as I do that it is running again. Well, anyway, Rover people are the best! Thank you, Dirk for sponsoring and organizing RoveAmerica 09. We had a great time! Glen From peterhut at melbpc.org.au Mon Jun 15 08:04:38 2009 From: peterhut at melbpc.org.au (Peter Huttemeier) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:04:38 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 tc advance curve? In-Reply-To: <c54.4ed97be6.3766479c@aol.com> References: <c54.4ed97be6.3766479c@aol.com> Message-ID: <fsdc35l11864j4j31glttfbs03i3e708vt@4ax.com> On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 08:31:24 EDT, you wrote: > > The SD1 has several Achille's heels, injection and ignition parts that >don't last and are now unobtainable. Problems. Which is why I have put in a Wolf ECU and electronic distributor. Goes like the wind now, mind you it is a 4l warm motor, 5 sp gearbox. Not bothering with concours condition, already too many of them in the Club. I am going racing!! The old girl has been taken off the road for a while, will put her on Club Plates. Going to strip her down, put a roll cage in, racing seats and harness, sticky tyres and off I go. Cheers, Peter H From roger.matheson at bigpond.com Mon Jun 15 09:14:27 2009 From: roger.matheson at bigpond.com (Roger.Matheson) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:14:27 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S problems References: <COL114-W5041DDAF36EAECC204EA9EDE410@phx.gbl><COL114-W54B3EADE726C293ADFAB39E410@phx.gbl> <COL114-W1E297B1C0E98AFF39E4E6DE410@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <004a01c9edbb$363f5fc0$0100000a@homea7f046a5f4> Hi Adrian, I wonder if ....... you unscrew the first plug until it is nearly out. Turn the crank and you should hear air hissing past the plug threads on the compression stroke. On the exhaust stroke the exhaust valve is open and there will be no build up of pressure to so there will be no such noise. What does everyone else suggest? Cheers Rog ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Brooks To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S problems I can move the flywheel with a socket..but I am not 100% sure if the TDC is on the intake or exhaust stroke...so by seeing the valves I figure this will be the way to be sure. I gave up on removing that carb neck...I presumed it was not possible...but now I will go back and try to get it off again ...thanks. > From: adrian.mcdonald at live.com > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 23:25:38 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S problems > > > I tried the same thing a while back and you don't have to take the whole carb off, only the inlet section fixed by three bolts (one of which is a pain to remove). I was also trying to find TDC and I gave up as the valve movement is so tiny it was impossible to do it. I wanted to do it properly and use a stop in the spark plug hole but I could not be bothered to take the radiator and the air conditioning cooler off to get at the flywheel. So I still don't know exactly where it is! > > Adrian > > > > From: goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 00:04:29 -0300 > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S problems > > > > I am trying to confirm visually the actual position of my valves in order to set my timing properly and KNOW for certain where TDC actually is...I simply want to remove the valve cover on the right bank (drivers side) and it appears that I need to remove the darned carb in order to just do it...is there any way to remove the cover without removing the carbs ? > > > > > Internet Explorer 8 makes surfing easier. Get it now! > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live? 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.68/2175 - Release Date: 06/14/09 05:53:00 From phing at videotron.ca Mon Jun 15 13:58:05 2009 From: phing at videotron.ca (Patrick Hiron) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:58:05 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fan belt spec for 1970 P6 NADA 3500S??? Message-ID: <000001c9ede2$d58f4d20$80ade760$@ca> Hi Does any one have a reference number for an "Off the shelf " replacement fan belt ??? This must be a common spare used by r V8 Land rovers early range Rovers . MgB v8s , even elderly Buicks etc ???My belt is probably the original and is showing signs of terminal , ever increasing stretching under load . It's either that or the Prince of Darkness is about to cook my alternator !! Cheers Patrick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090615/854b99c5/attachment.html> From rovercar at comcast.net Mon Jun 15 14:15:27 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:15:27 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S problems In-Reply-To: <004a01c9edbb$363f5fc0$0100000a@homea7f046a5f4> References: <COL114-W5041DDAF36EAECC204EA9EDE410@phx.gbl><COL114-W54B3EADE726C293ADFAB39E410@phx.gbl> <COL114-W1E297B1C0E98AFF39E4E6DE410@phx.gbl> <004a01c9edbb$363f5fc0$0100000a@homea7f046a5f4> Message-ID: <4A368FBF.1000404@comcast.net> Roger.Matheson wrote: > Hi Adrian, > > I wonder if ....... you unscrew the first plug until it is nearly > out. Turn the crank and you should hear air hissing past the plug > threads on the compression stroke. On the exhaust stroke the exhaust > valve is open and there will be no build up of pressure to so there > will be no such noise. What does everyone else suggest? Cheers Rog They used to actually sell a device you screwed into the spark plug hole that would whistle as you approached TDC on the compression stroke. I came into this late, Dennis, but wouldn't you be able to determine TDC for your cylinder by checking the position of the distributor rotor relative to the correct spark plug wire as the piston hits the top of its travel? Should only be pointing at that wire at the top of the compression stroke. Sorry if you've already covered this or if I'm working on incomplete information. Glen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Now since I had the distributor already off my father figured it was a good thime to upgrade the ignition...wrong !! this started a chain of events that only two guys with crappy memories could create...lol So eventually we got the distrubitor in place and the car was running (kind of rough ) and suddently (like the key was turned off) it quit...it would try to start yet it would not run...no backfires yet a mystery. We then set the dist again ...still nothing ... we then decided that perhaps the timing gear/chain may be the culprit...I bought a new set and now before I install it I wish to try just once more to set the timing ...I removed the valve cover and if the valves are open (I think that's right...the book will confirm) and the flywheel is at TDC...the distributor should be able to set in place and point directly at # 1 cylinder..should it not ? If it won't then I presume this will be confirmation that the timing chain/gear set has jumped...again ...am I correct ??? Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:15:27 -0400 From: rovercar at comcast.net To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S problems Roger.Matheson wrote: Hi Adrian, I wonder if ....... you unscrew the first plug until it is nearly out. Turn the crank and you should hear air hissing past the plug threads on the compression stroke. On the exhaust stroke the exhaust valve is open and there will be no build up of pressure to so there will be no such noise. What does everyone else suggest? Cheers Rog They used to actually sell a device you screwed into the spark plug hole that would whistle as you approached TDC on the compression stroke. I came into this late, Dennis, but wouldn't you be able to determine TDC for your cylinder by checking the position of the distributor rotor relative to the correct spark plug wire as the piston hits the top of its travel? Should only be pointing at that wire at the top of the compression stroke. 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PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Brooks To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S problems That would work fin Glen but what has happened to give a bit of background ...I store my Rover inside every winter and in the spring (a couple of years ago) I started it and realized there was no oil pressure...I shut it off (forgetting that I had disconected the sending unit wire the previous fall) and never got back around to working on it untill late fall...by then I decided to try pumping the oil from the base of the distributor...good plan ...then I remembered what I had done ...lol... Now since I had the distributor already off my father figured it was a good thime to upgrade the ignition...wrong !! this started a chain of events that only two guys with crappy memories could create...lol So eventually we got the distrubitor in place and the car was running (kind of rough ) and suddently (like the key was turned off) it quit...it would try to start yet it would not run...no backfires yet a mystery. We then set the dist again ...still nothing ... we then decided that perhaps the timing gear/chain may be the culprit...I bought a new set and now before I install it I wish to try just once more to set the timing ...I removed the valve cover and if the valves are open (I think that's right...the book will confirm) and the flywheel is at TDC...the distributor should be able to set in place and point directly at # 1 cylinder..should it not ? If it won't then I presume this will be confirmation that the timing chain/gear set has jumped...again ...am I correct ??? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:15:27 -0400 From: rovercar at comcast.net To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S problems Roger.Matheson wrote: Hi Adrian, I wonder if ....... you unscrew the first plug until it is nearly out. Turn the crank and you should hear air hissing past the plug threads on the compression stroke. On the exhaust stroke the exhaust valve is open and there will be no build up of pressure to so there will be no such noise. What does everyone else suggest? Cheers Rog They used to actually sell a device you screwed into the spark plug hole that would whistle as you approached TDC on the compression stroke. I came into this late, Dennis, but wouldn't you be able to determine TDC for your cylinder by checking the position of the distributor rotor relative to the correct spark plug wire as the piston hits the top of its travel? Should only be pointing at that wire at the top of the compression stroke. Sorry if you've already covered this or if I'm working on incomplete information. Glen ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ We are your photos. Share us now with Windows Live Photos. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090616/adec8284/attachment.html> From rababiuk at telusplanet.net Mon Jun 15 19:03:13 2009 From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net (Roy Babiuk) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:03:13 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] My Project Message-ID: <EE0A66CC-43C0-401B-B128-2580724F0E87@telusplanet.net> Some shots of my 1970 TC as I tear her down. More for my motivation and to jog my memory when putting stuff back where it belongs, but feel free to take a look and offer any advice re: restoration. Vehicle was kept at a friends farm over winter, and is now at Bert Van Riels "Sports car Centre" in Edmonton undergoing an engine rebuild and 2200 cc overbore. http://s640.photobucket.com/albums/uu127/cdnp6/1970%20Rover%202000%20TC/?albumview=slideshow -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090615/55217545/attachment-0001.html> From goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com Mon Jun 15 19:40:56 2009 From: goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com (Dennis Brooks) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:40:56 -0300 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S problems In-Reply-To: <35F0F598DE8442D7A25F4BC57A0160F5@Vista> References: <COL114-W5041DDAF36EAECC204EA9EDE410@phx.gbl><COL114-W54B3EADE726C293ADFAB39E410@phx.gbl><COL114-W1E297B1C0E98AFF39E4E6DE410@phx.gbl><004a01c9edbb$363f5fc0$0100000a@homea7f046a5f4> <4A368FBF.1000404@comcast.net> <COL114-W1D0FE1FF9938B956C61E9DE3E0@phx.gbl> <35F0F598DE8442D7A25F4BC57A0160F5@Vista> Message-ID: <COL114-W535D68F0603F61CE466F4ADE3E0@phx.gbl> Thanks...Like I said ..."I think" ...the manual would have been my gi\uide .. From: vmitps at netspace.net.au To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:55:56 +1000 Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S problems Not if the valves on #1 are open! They should be firmly shut with flywheel at TDC, then the dizzy points at #1 plug lead. #6 valves will both be open. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Brooks To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S problems That would work fin Glen but what has happened to give a bit of background ...I store my Rover inside every winter and in the spring (a couple of years ago) I started it and realized there was no oil pressure...I shut it off (forgetting that I had disconected the sending unit wire the previous fall) and never got back around to working on it untill late fall...by then I decided to try pumping the oil from the base of the distributor...good plan ...then I remembered what I had done ...lol... Now since I had the distributor already off my father figured it was a good thime to upgrade the ignition...wrong !! this started a chain of events that only two guys with crappy memories could create...lol So eventually we got the distrubitor in place and the car was running (kind of rough ) and suddently (like the key was turned off) it quit...it would try to start yet it would not run...no backfires yet a mystery. We then set the dist again ...still nothing ... we then decided that perhaps the timing gear/chain may be the culprit...I bought a new set and now before I install it I wish to try just once more to set the timing ...I removed the valve cover and if the valves are open (I think that's right...the book will confirm) and the flywheel is at TDC...the distributor should be able to set in place and point directly at # 1 cylinder..should it not ? If it won't then I presume this will be confirmation that the timing chain/gear set has jumped...again ...am I correct ??? Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:15:27 -0400 From: rovercar at comcast.net To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S problems Roger.Matheson wrote: Hi Adrian, I wonder if ....... you unscrew the first plug until it is nearly out. Turn the crank and you should hear air hissing past the plug threads on the compression stroke. On the exhaust stroke the exhaust valve is open and there will be no build up of pressure to so there will be no such noise. What does everyone else suggest? Cheers Rog They used to actually sell a device you screwed into the spark plug hole that would whistle as you approached TDC on the compression stroke. I came into this late, Dennis, but wouldn't you be able to determine TDC for your cylinder by checking the position of the distributor rotor relative to the correct spark plug wire as the piston hits the top of its travel? Should only be pointing at that wire at the top of the compression stroke. Sorry if you've already covered this or if I'm working on incomplete information. Glen We are your photos. Share us now with Windows Live Photos. _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _________________________________________________________________ We are your photos. Share us now with Windows Live Photos. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9666047 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090615/55874813/attachment.html> From rovercar at comcast.net Mon Jun 15 20:39:54 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:39:54 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S timing problems In-Reply-To: <COL114-W1D0FE1FF9938B956C61E9DE3E0@phx.gbl> References: <COL114-W5041DDAF36EAECC204EA9EDE410@phx.gbl><COL114-W54B3EADE726C293ADFAB39E410@phx.gbl> <COL114-W1E297B1C0E98AFF39E4E6DE410@phx.gbl> <004a01c9edbb$363f5fc0$0100000a@homea7f046a5f4> <4A368FBF.1000404@comcast.net> <COL114-W1D0FE1FF9938B956C61E9DE3E0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <4A36E9DA.9060400@comcast.net> Dennis, Here's a classic overly long Wilson epistle. You probably know this stuff, but maybe there's someone out there who knows even less than I do who will benefit from this exercise in wordiness. At worst, someone who knows what they are doing will speak up and correct me. I've done all of those things along the way. I've removed the dizzy and cleaned off my reference mark. I've also managed to get the plug wires in all the wrong places. Point 1: At TDC, the valve stems should be fully up with the rocker arms not pushing them down. The valve springs hold them up. If I remember correctly, there may even be the slightest bit of open space between the rocker arms and the tops of the valve stems. Point 2: Because there is an angle to the teeth of of the distributor drive, the distributor shaft and rotor will always turn a little bit as the gears engage at the bottom. So, you have to position the distributor so that the rotor is a little bit ahead of where you think it will end up. As you push the dizzy in, the rotor will turn a few degrees. Point 3: A lot of this is pointless if you have installed the ignition wires in the wrong places. You need to check the firing order and run the wires accordingly. If the wires are already in place, you need to have the distributor body "in the ballpark" so that you have enough range to finalize the timing by rotating the body. Point 4: On your last point, I may be a bit hazy. Maybe Kent will be back online soon! The timing chain really sets the timing between the crankshaft and the camshaft. If this relationship is not correct, the valves will not be closed when the piston is in firing position (TDC). This is essential. You can carefully insert a long thin screwdriver or metal coat hanger in through the spark plug hole. As the piston comes up, the wire or screwdriver will rise to a certain point and then start to go back in. When the piston is at its furthest travel upwards toward the spark plug, you are at TDC. At that point, look at your valves. If you are at TDC on an IGNITION stroke, the valve stems should be fully up indicating that the valves are closed. If the piston is at the top of its travel on an EXHAUST stroke, the intake valve will be closed (stem up) and the exhaust valve will be open (stem down). If you have any other valve positions than the two described above, you would have to have slipped a number of teeth with the timing chain. I assume that if you are a tooth or two off in one direction, the engine would run poorly. If you were a tooth or two off in the other direction, you could end up with the spark plug igniting the mixture early enough to be forcing the piston down as it is mechanically driven up. The mechanical timing between the crankshaft and camshaft is either dead on or it's off with a standard non-adjustable timing chain. If the screwdriver is at its peak sticking out of the hole and the valves are closed, you are probably okay. (You could always pull the entire front of the engine off to look at the gears, to be100% sure.) I'm not sure how often the 3500S engines jump teeth on the timing gear, but I would think that it is not that common because all the bits are solid metal. I might expect some slop or inconsistency in the timing due to the chain stretching over time, but you might never notice it. The SD1 engine left the factory with a crappy timing gear made out of fiber. These always went bad at some point. If it looks like you are at TDC with the screwdriver test, it is worthwhile to try setting the spark timing. In the simplest terms, ignition should occur at TDC with both valves closed. Your engine will run at this setting. To optimize power and driveability, you should set the timing as the manual states, either a few degrees before or after TDC. This is done at a low rpm when the distibutor weights are not spinning fast enough to be affecting the position of the points, and with the vacuum advance disconnected (plug the rubber tube because it's a vacuum leak) so that the vacuum advance is not changing the position of the points. If my brain's working tonight, the static timing is on when the valves are close, the piston is at TDC, and the ignition points are just opening (firing). So, rotate the engine to be at TDC on the ignition stroke. Put the distributor into the hole in the engine and fully seat it. Now, figure out which is the correct wire to go to the cylinder you are working on. Maybe put a mark on the distributor body below this wire so that you have a reference point when the cap and wires are off. Turn the distributor body until the rotor is causing that wire to get spark. That's your static timing. If you can't rotate the distributor body far enough in either direction to achieve this, you can pull the distributor carefully up with you hand on the rotor. The rotor will turn as you lift. When it stops turning, the gears have disengaged. Now carefully rotate the rotor a few degrees in the direction it needs to go. Hold it there and reseat the dizzy, allowing the rotor to rotate a little as the gears re-engage. You should now see that the rotor is closer to or farther away fro where you want it. If it's within the range of adjustment you have when you rotate the dizzy body, your in business. When you start the car and do the dynamic timing with a timing light, you will have to rotate the body again a few degrees in one direction or the other. For this reason, you need to be more or less in the center of what you can adjust with the distributor body. Obviously, someone could have put the wires in the wrong places on the distributor cap. If it looks like everything is correct and distributor is sitting in a more or less normal position and your rotor is pointing at wire for some other cylinder, it's possible that all of the wires have to be moved around on the distributor cap. Now for the punchline you've all been waiting for... Damn! There isn't one. You've wasted an hour reading this drivel! ;-) Glen Brooks wrote: > That would work fin Glen but what has happened to give a bit of > background ...I store my Rover inside every winter and in the spring > (a couple of years ago) I started it and realized there was no oil > pressure...I shut it off (forgetting that I had disconected the > sending unit wire the previous fall) and never got back around to > working on it untill late fall...by then I decided to try pumping the > oil from the base of the distributor...good plan ...then I > remembered what I had done ...lol... > Now since I had the distributor already off my father figured it was > a good thime to upgrade the ignition...wrong !! this started a chain > of events that only two guys with crappy memories could create...lol > So eventually we got the distrubitor in place and the car was running > (kind of rough ) and suddently (like the key was turned off) it > quit...it would try to start yet it would not run...no backfires yet a > mystery. We then set the dist again ...still nothing ... we then > decided that perhaps the timing gear/chain may be the culprit...I > bought a new set and now before I install it I wish to try just once > more to set the timing ...I removed the valve cover and if the valves > are open (I think that's right...the book will confirm) and the > flywheel is at TDC...the distributor should be able to set in place > and point directly at # 1 cylinder..should it not ? If it won't then > I presume this will be confirmation that the timing chain/gear set has > jumped...again ...am I correct ??? > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:15:27 -0400 > From: rovercar at comcast.net > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S problems > > Roger.Matheson wrote: > > Hi Adrian, > > I wonder if ....... you unscrew the first plug until it is nearly > out. Turn the crank and you should hear air hissing past the plug > threads on the compression stroke. On the exhaust stroke the > exhaust valve is open and there will be no build up of pressure to > so there will be no such noise. What does everyone else suggest? > Cheers Rog > > > They used to actually sell a device you screwed into the spark plug > hole that would whistle as you approached TDC on the compression > stroke. I came into this late, Dennis, but wouldn't you be able to > determine TDC for your cylinder by checking the position of the > distributor rotor relative to the correct spark plug wire as the > piston hits the top of its travel? Should only be pointing at that > wire at the top of the compression stroke. Sorry if you've already > covered this or if I'm working on incomplete information. > > Glen > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > We are your photos. Share us now with Windows Live Photos. > <http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9666045> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Using the timing marks, both valves up on #1, piston at TDC on #1, rotor points at wire to #1. I don't think there's a mark on the V8 flywheel as there is on the TC, but there are timing marks. If you've screwed up as many things as I have, you should probably still use the old screwdriver in the hole trick to be sure the piston is fully up when the plug will fire. Glen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There will be no clearance between rockers and valve stems even at TDC on the V8's because of the hydraulic lifters (the lifters actually have a slight amount of preload that holds the clearance at zero.) It's been a while since I have done my spiel on V8 top ends, so here goes again. (I'm no less wordy than Glen.) If you have any reason to work on the top end of a V8 _that has never been worked on_ before, there are some things that I strongly recommend. If you try to cut corners here, you will probably wind up doing some of the same disassembly over again rather soon. 1. Pull the heads and do a valve job. Install hardened seats on pre-'80 engines (some would say pre-'82, but I think our NAS SD1 heads are OK). Install oil restrictors in the block to head passage to reduce the amount of oil going to the rocker shafts. The oil restrictors make rocker and rocker shaft replacement far less critical. 2. Before reinstalling the heads, set the engine to TDC on number 1 cylinder using a dial indicator and then _don't move the crank_. 3. Replace the camshaft with a stock 3.9 L cam. 4. Replace the timing chain set, preferably with a true roller set. The stock chain stretches and will jump time. Install the new set following instructions in the shop manual. 5. Install new lifters (never reuse an old lifter) that have been soaked or primed. (It is probably not necessary to check lifter preload when using a stock or aftermarket cam with stock .390" of lift.) 6. Install the heads using studs. Run a bottoming tap in the block holes. Torque the studs to 10 ft. lbs. Use only the ten uppermost bolt holes on each side (there are fourteen holes per side on pre-'95 engines). Torque nuts to spec. 7. Install the front cover and slip the crank pulley on the crank. _Don't let the crank move._ Check the relationship of the TDC mark to the pointer and adjust the pointer or re-mark the pulley as necessary. Then torque the damper retaining bolt to spec. 8. Now that you are absolutely certain that you have a reliable TDC, reread Glen's remarks on scratch timing. Do not touch the bottom end of a 3.5 or 3.9 unless you have less than 10 psi oil pressure at idle. Even then, try replacing the oil pump gears or even the whole front cover and install the oil restrictors in the heads first. Avoid going into the bottom end unless you cannot get the oil pressure up another way. If you must rebuild the bottom end, you will also need to replace the cam bearings, enlarge and modify some oil passages, and install oil restrictors in the heads. Install main cap studs. This assumes that your main caps have not fretted and are still tight in the block. Roverly, Kent K. From pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 15 23:30:58 2009 From: pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net (pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] My Project Message-ID: <158893.33814.qm@web83007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Great pics of your project Roy! Thanks, Peter --- On Mon, 6/15/09, Roy Babiuk <rababiuk at telusplanet.net> wrote: From: Roy Babiuk <rababiuk at telusplanet.net> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] My Project To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Date: Monday, June 15, 2009, 4:03 PM Some shots of my 1970 TC as I tear her down.? More for my motivation and to jog my memory when putting stuff back where it belongs, but feel free to take a look and offer any advice re: restoration. Vehicle was kept at a friends farm over winter, and is now at Bert Van Riels "Sports car Centre" in Edmonton undergoing an engine rebuild and 2200 cc overbore. http://s640.photobucket.com/albums/uu127/cdnp6/1970%20Rover%202000%20TC/?albumview=slideshow -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090615/f11437c7/attachment.html> From R.Thornton at adelaidecitycouncil.com Tue Jun 16 00:07:21 2009 From: R.Thornton at adelaidecitycouncil.com (Robert Thornton) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:37:21 +0930 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 tc advance curve? In-Reply-To: <c54.4ed97be6.3766479c@aol.com> References: <c54.4ed97be6.3766479c@aol.com> Message-ID: <816735D7904A6C42A6D5B0DDFC0EAB4E0286830DA7@ACCMX01.adelaide.sa.gov.au> The 123 is undoubtedly a great, albeit costly, option. For less than a third of the price you can buy a new Lucas 35D8 distributor from Land Rover parts suppliers, and modify it to work optimally for your engine by setting up your own advance curve. Standard 3.5 Lucas distributor normal bob weights allow 34 degrees total advance (26 degrees mechanical advance + 8 degrees static advance) at about 4,500 rpm. The 3.9 distributor runs 32 degrees advance. A 4.6 engine ideally needs 28 degrees of total advance for optimum performance. On my 4.6 SD1 I set the Lucas distrubutor at 10 degrees BTDC at idle (750rpm) and then modified it to limit the mechanical advance to18 degrees (10+18=28). To get this I had to restrict the sweep of the bob weights by fitting a metal sleeve over the stop pin to limit the mechanical advance from 26 degrees to 18 degrees. I then purchased an inexpensive Moroso distributor advance springs kit from the local speed shop ($20) - PN 72310 (which is for a GM HEI dissy but will fit Rover's Lucas dissy), and some 6 inch diam MSD timing tape which I attached to the crank pulley. This is used with the aid of a hand operated timing light to regraph the distributor. The two Lucas springs are changed for one "light" and one "medium" Moroso springs (there are six to choose from in the pack) so the mechanical mechanism advances at a faster rate to its fully advanced state of 28 degrees. This all needs to be in by 2500 - 3000 rpm. I ditched the vacuum advance as the Lucas mechanism is set up for SUs and I'm running an Edelbrock that pulls far too much vaccuum for the Lucas dizzy. The Lucas vacuum advance will typically provide between 12 and 16 degrees of additional advance over and above the built in mechanical advance which is excessive if you are using an initial advance figure 10-12 degrees. On the nose of the cannister you will find 3 figures, along the lines of 5 17 6. The first two figures relate to the measure of vacuum in inches of mercury, while the last digit refers to the amount of advance provided at the distributor. So 6 degrees at the distributor will show 12 degrees on the crankshaft. All this makes the engine a lot more responsive, with more torque in the 1,000 - 3,000 rpm range. Rob ________________________________ From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of MarkCoorparoo at aol.com Sent: Sunday, 14 June 2009 10:01 PM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 tc advance curve? Slats and all, Yes, it is a decision. I have several SD1's. One of which I plan to keep completely original and get up to Concorse condition. All components Original. Maybe upgrade some internals but externally as new. Pass any Concorse inspection. The SD1 has several Achille's heels, injection and ignition parts that don't last and are now unobtainable. Problems. When we get back to basic post Model T Kettering Spark makers, especially those from the Lord of Darkness, we are really going to have to keep an eye out for modern improvements. In the days when I was on the spanners, a hundred thousand mile dizzy was in a car that was 5-9 years old. There were exceptions such as Taxi's, which had their own maintenance regimes and the "Rep's" and Outback cars. A car that had been around "The Clock" was almost stuffed. The diff was probably OK, the body was tired and worn, dirty, chipped. A Manual GearBox needed help, had already had a clutch. Auto's had bigger probs, completly inscrutable. The head had been off for burnt Valves that also showed up a worn bore. You could drop a long motor in these things but they were never "Born Again". All the bits that you screwed back in let them down. They did go better but never went as new. The "OverHauled- ReGround" Bump Stick still had a worn dizzy drive gear on it. The dizzy dropped back in had a gear on the bottom that was three times more worn. Then there is the bush that has been shoved off to one side and all the slop that introduces. Then there are the advance plates, points cam, shaft etc. etc. etc. How much money do we have to spend to fix a worn dizzy. In Oz the Pro Spanners are charging $70 - 105 per hour Oz. An Oz Dollar gets about 80 US cents at the moment. How many hours are we going to spend fixing tired dizzies? Slats, the bloke you advertise is either very heroic or is taking shortcuts. His Dizzy is about $225 Oz including Vac.. A 123 is about $800 Oz and you can dial your own.. Brand New. We are not stuck with our ole mates guess at how our own donk works. Then there is them worn points plate bushes that never seem to get fixed. We have our Kettering points opening and shutting with the condenser to look after the electrical bounce like turning a tap off hard. Pertronix only replaces the Kettering Switch and condensor. All them other worn parts are still there. They do have their place, all you are replacing is the points. Easy.What about the springs, weights, pivots,etc. All been whirling around for decades. The 123 is a drop in replacement for an entire ignition, without going to a dizzy - less setup. Something like a spark box on the early Cozzie DFV's.. My only objections to 123 are cost, haven't had my hands on one and in certain circumstances, the Concource Problem. Slats, if I get into the situation where a 123 is the obvious solution, I will buy one. Give me a couple of years. Could say some more but the memory has shrunk. Regards All, MWJ. P.S. A little bit distracted at the moment. Have Le Mans Finish on the other screen. Sad, looks like Audi is going to get knocked off ( I have two Audi's) but it appears David Brabham, son of Jack, has been a driver of the leading Car. 38 minutes to go. Regards All. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090616/1f1b3e54/attachment-0001.html> From sdibdin at hotmail.com Tue Jun 16 00:14:46 2009 From: sdibdin at hotmail.com (Steven Dibdin) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 04:14:46 +0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 tc advance curve? In-Reply-To: <816735D7904A6C42A6D5B0DDFC0EAB4E0286830DA7@ACCMX01.adelaide.sa.gov.au> References: <c54.4ed97be6.3766479c@aol.com> <816735D7904A6C42A6D5B0DDFC0EAB4E0286830DA7@ACCMX01.adelaide.sa.gov.au> Message-ID: <BAY106-W6C9999B1B579332A554B6B03F0@phx.gbl> Quick update on my question. After hearing from Slats and Geoff McCarthy I spoke with Jeff at Advanced Distributors. So I'm sending the old 25d4 to Jeff tomorrow. I would prefer to keep things somewhat original under the bonnet. On another note, does anyone know where I can get an exhaust system on the north east coast of the US? Our drive back from Cape Cod today became considerably louder because of a failing first box. Cheers and have a good night, Steven -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best regards, Gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di RoverP6 at gmx.de Inviato: venerd? 12 giugno 2009 23.27 A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Google Earth shows Rover P6 Just found a green P6 near Monaco ! If wanted, I could send a Google Earth kmz-file, showing the place (via "streetview") Rudiger www.RoverP6.info _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Tue Jun 16 04:25:20 2009 From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:25:20 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: 2000 tc advance curve? - ROVER SD1 WOLF ECU DISTRIBUTOR In-Reply-To: <fsdc35l11864j4j31glttfbs03i3e708vt@4ax.com> References: <c54.4ed97be6.3766479c@aol.com> <fsdc35l11864j4j31glttfbs03i3e708vt@4ax.com> Message-ID: <AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A022FEAA6@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel> Please be so kind to send us some more informations. What is it? Some references? I am interested! Best regards, Gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Peter Huttemeier Inviato: luned? 15 giugno 2009 14.05 A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 tc advance curve? - ROVER SD1 WOLF ECU DISTRIBUTOR On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 08:31:24 EDT, you wrote: > > The SD1 has several Achille's heels, injection and ignition parts >that don't last and are now unobtainable. Problems. Which is why I have put in a Wolf ECU and electronic distributor. Goes like the wind now, mind you it is a 4l warm motor, 5 sp gearbox. Not bothering with concours condition, already too many of them in the Club. I am going racing!! The old girl has been taken off the road for a while, will put her on Club Plates. Going to strip her down, put a roll cage in, racing seats and harness, sticky tyres and off I go. Cheers, Peter H _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From kkinard at att.net Tue Jun 16 07:06:54 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 06:06:54 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica '09 Message-ID: <4A377CCE.3040900@att.net> Hi Netters, I'll echo Glen's remarks. RoveAmerica was outstanding! Dirk is the perfect host and his collection is the perfect venue. It is now a world class collection and the addition of the Streamline will make it more so. It was great to meet Glen after all these years and I was overjoyed to see that he is doing well. I am always interested in how people get into Rovers and am curious about the results of the interviews that were conducted at RoveAmerica. Most of you have been enthusiasts for many years and purchased a Rover new or "inherited" the cars from family or have some sentimental attachment to them. Relatively few of you have come to Rovers after indulging in other brands. Since I am one of the few, I was very interested to meet Real Forest from Montreal. Real has an extensive collection of British, French and Italian cars ( I forgot to ask if he has a Lancia Appia.) and has come to Rovers most recently. He and Claire drove a P5 Mk. III stick shift, a very solid California car. It is very important to understand how people like Real come to Rovers...what attracted them to the marque. Most of us are getting up in years. How do we maintain the interest in the marque and who will we pass our cars along to? There were some cars in progress at RoveAmerica and there are some younger enthusiasts out there, many of whom are struggling in the present economy. I hope we will continue to encourage them and recruit more. Thanks to Eric Russel and RoverNet for doing a great service to us all by keeping us connected and giving the next generation access to a wonderful tradition. Eventually, the automobile as we know it will cease to exist or morph into something unrecognizable. Until then we have a unique contribution to make to automotive history and enjoyment. Thank you all for your hard work and thank you Dirk for a wonderful weekend. Roverly, Kent K. From hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu Tue Jun 16 07:46:12 2009 From: hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu (Hank and Sally Manwell) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:46:12 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica '09 References: <4A377CCE.3040900@att.net> Message-ID: <3176579E669C45BEA7B2B13FD46D651B@your7745395e08> Glen and Kent have certainly found the right words to describe '09 RoveAmerica. It was a great gathering of souls coming together with a common focus on Rovers and humanity - and the humanity behind the Rover enterprise from the beginning. The efforts of Dirk, his family, and vy-tek personnel, Joe Allan, and many others are much appreciated. Hank From englishmn at verizon.net Tue Jun 16 08:48:18 2009 From: englishmn at verizon.net (peter & nancy) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:48:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] stearing arm idler Message-ID: <29280.23479.qm@web84106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hello everyone lam in need of a stearing arm? idler? box passenger side left hand drive 67 2000 TC good used one will work email me with price and post somewhere in the USA or Canada would be best thanks much pete in michigan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090616/cc6da20c/attachment.html> From peterhut at melbpc.org.au Tue Jun 16 09:03:21 2009 From: peterhut at melbpc.org.au (Peter Huttemeier) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:03:21 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica '09 In-Reply-To: <4A377CCE.3040900@att.net> References: <4A377CCE.3040900@att.net> Message-ID: <7m5f35lvprkli62bg983ptkud2bgoe5395@4ax.com> On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 06:06:54 -0500, you wrote: >Most of us are getting up in years. How do we maintain the interest in >the marque and who will we pass our cars along to? There were some cars >in progress at RoveAmerica and there are some younger enthusiasts out >there, many of whom are struggling in the present economy. Kent, It is unfortunately a continuing problem for all Rover clubs I think. While we (RCCA) are now getting an increase in membership from Rover 75 owners, as we know there will be no more Rovers, so the source of new members will probably start drying up. Encouraging younger members is hard. Younger people tend to be interested in other types of cars, and dare I say it are discouraged by their peers from buying old Rovers. Perhaps us like the cars will disappear in time!! Cheers, Peter Huttemeier Webmaster Rover Car Club of Australia Inc http://www.rovercarclubaust.asn.au/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/ From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Tue Jun 16 09:35:46 2009 From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:35:46 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Lancia 2000 1971 , but sold In-Reply-To: <4A377CCE.3040900@att.net> References: <4A377CCE.3040900@att.net> Message-ID: <AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A022FEEEA@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel> http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160339282728&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:Watchlink:middle:it If someone is ibnterested, have a llok at this splendid Lancia sold for litytle money... It is not an paaia, but is very beautiful. Best regards, Gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Kent Kinard Inviato: marted? 16 giugno 2009 13.07 A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica '09 Hi Netters, I'll echo Glen's remarks. RoveAmerica was outstanding! Dirk is the perfect host and his collection is the perfect venue. It is now a world class collection and the addition of the Streamline will make it more so. It was great to meet Glen after all these years and I was overjoyed to see that he is doing well. I am always interested in how people get into Rovers and am curious about the results of the interviews that were conducted at RoveAmerica. Most of you have been enthusiasts for many years and purchased a Rover new or "inherited" the cars from family or have some sentimental attachment to them. Relatively few of you have come to Rovers after indulging in other brands. Since I am one of the few, I was very interested to meet Real Forest from Montreal. Real has an extensive collection of British, French and Italian cars ( I forgot to ask if he has a Lancia Appia.) and has come to Rovers most recently. He and Claire drove a P5 Mk. III stick shift, a very solid California car. It is very important to understand how people like Real come to Rovers...what attracted them to the marque. Most of us are getting up in years. How do we maintain the interest in the marque and who will we pass our cars along to? There were some cars in progress at RoveAmerica and there are some younger enthusiasts out there, many of whom are struggling in the present economy. I hope we will continue to encourage them and recruit more. Thanks to Eric Russel and RoverNet for doing a great service to us all by keeping us connected and giving the next generation access to a wonderful tradition. Eventually, the automobile as we know it will cease to exist or morph into something unrecognizable. Until then we have a unique contribution to make to automotive history and enjoyment. Thank you all for your hard work and thank you Dirk for a wonderful weekend. Roverly, Kent K. _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Tue Jun 16 09:38:08 2009 From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:38:08 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: R: Lancia 2000 1971 , but sold In-Reply-To: <AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A022FEEEA@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel> References: <4A377CCE.3040900@att.net> <AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A022FEEEA@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel> Message-ID: <AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A022FEEEF@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel> Excuse me: it is not an APPIA. Best regards, Gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Inviato: marted? 16 giugno 2009 15.36 A: rovernet at rovernet.ca Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Lancia 2000 1971 , but sold http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160339282728&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:Watchlink:middle:it If someone is ibnterested, have a llok at this splendid Lancia sold for litytle money... It is not an paaia, but is very beautiful. Best regards, Gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Kent Kinard Inviato: marted? 16 giugno 2009 13.07 A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica '09 Hi Netters, I'll echo Glen's remarks. RoveAmerica was outstanding! Dirk is the perfect host and his collection is the perfect venue. It is now a world class collection and the addition of the Streamline will make it more so. It was great to meet Glen after all these years and I was overjoyed to see that he is doing well. I am always interested in how people get into Rovers and am curious about the results of the interviews that were conducted at RoveAmerica. Most of you have been enthusiasts for many years and purchased a Rover new or "inherited" the cars from family or have some sentimental attachment to them. Relatively few of you have come to Rovers after indulging in other brands. Since I am one of the few, I was very interested to meet Real Forest from Montreal. Real has an extensive collection of British, French and Italian cars ( I forgot to ask if he has a Lancia Appia.) and has come to Rovers most recently. He and Claire drove a P5 Mk. III stick shift, a very solid California car. It is very important to understand how people like Real come to Rovers...what attracted them to the marque. Most of us are getting up in years. How do we maintain the interest in the marque and who will we pass our cars along to? There were some cars in progress at RoveAmerica and there are some younger enthusiasts out there, many of whom are struggling in the present economy. I hope we will continue to encourage them and recruit more. Thanks to Eric Russel and RoverNet for doing a great service to us all by keeping us connected and giving the next generation access to a wonderful tradition. Eventually, the automobile as we know it will cease to exist or morph into something unrecognizable. Until then we have a unique contribution to make to automotive history and enjoyment. Thank you all for your hard work and thank you Dirk for a wonderful weekend. Roverly, Kent K. _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From irishrover1 at sympatico.ca Tue Jun 16 14:12:45 2009 From: irishrover1 at sympatico.ca (BEN RODGERS) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:12:45 -0300 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica '09 References: <4A377CCE.3040900@att.net> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP55DBC01577FABBEE8C79B953F0@phx.gbl> Hi Kent I was very interested to read your email on 'RoveAmerica' regarding Real Forest and his P5 mk3. Unless he has more than one this is the car I sold to him three or four years ago. It was gray with red interior (recently re-done in leather touch upholstery) a four speed with overdrive. I'm not sure this car was ever from California, I do know it spent the great part ( circa 1973) of its life in Yarmouth Nova Scotia. It belonged to the owner of the Yarmouth Grand Hotel, when he died the car sat in the garage until his wife was moved into a nursing home and the car was sold at an estate auction. A local garage bought it but couldn't get it running, I bought it from them in 2000 and had it trailered home to PEI. Replacement of exhaust valves and some other work on the overdrive and it worked great. In 2004 John Burkhard came all the way up to the island to buy it. On the day he drove off it broke down and no amount of worked revealed the problem. Gave John his money back and later (much later) found the jet needle had slipped out of place about 1/8th inch. Once correct everything worked fine, I re-advertized and this time Real bought it. I drove the car over to N.B for pick up by a Classic car trailer firm. As the driver moved the car onto the ramps to load, it stopped dead and refused to re-start. I thought Oh! no not again, anyway long story short. I'd installed petronix and the rotor button had cracked (common fault with using Petronix) had a spare with me and the car finally reached Montreal. Regards Ben (irishrover) Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Jun 16 15:29:32 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:29:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica '09 Message-ID: <868576.8069.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I am late coming to the topic of RoveAmerica '09 as Linda and I blasted down the highway for an overnight trip to the tip of Cape Cod.? Since Glen, Kent, and Hank, have pretty much said what I wanted to say, I'll only be able to add little to the remarks. ? I was "gob-smacked", extremely impressed, and otherwise thrilled by the event that Dirk hosted in Fitchburg. His commitment in energy and treasure to produce such an event is above and beyond the call of duty.? That weekend was the centre of the Rover universe in North America.? I felt a strong sense of camaraderie and positive energy from all the attendees. I had met some of the Rover folk last year and was delighted to see them again.? In addition, I had the opportunity to meet even more Rover enthusiasts as the number of Rovers driving into the lot increased in number on the Saturday. ? It is a great event for all Rover enthusiasts, and I appreciated the major effort of some of the members as they rushed to complete their restorations and drive their cars to Fitchburg before all the bugs were worked out.? They wanted to be part of the excitement and I much appreciated their commitment. ? I look forward to participating in discussion and planning to help encourage Dirk to produce? a RoverAmerica '10.? ? ? Eric (still in Fitchburg) __________________________________________________________________ Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Going to strip her down, put a roll cage in, racing seats and harness, sticky tyres and off I go.< I went with the Edelbrock on the 4.6, recurved my dissy to suit the engine spec, fitted it with a Lumenition optical trigger mated up to an MSD6A CDI and Blaster 2 coil with the Aussie made Eagle Blue 8.8mm spiral core leads. IMO the three most significant items in getting the RV8 to go are: 1. engine capacity, bigger the better for torque; 2. cylinder heads - the real Archilles of the V8 - I use '64 Buick 300 but there's new designs coming soon from TA Performance based on the Buick V6 which will reportedly match the Wildcats but sell for much less than their price; 3. cam - there's lots to choose from in UK, US, Oz - I chose Crane. For racing, as you rightly point out, you need to significantly lighten the SD1 - mine's down to under 1200kg with f/g bonnet, hatch, spoilers, perspex, etc, and fit a lower FD - I use the 6 cylinder 3.45:1 or TR7 3.9:1 and a Quaiffe lsd. Helps eliminate the understeer too. Rob -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Peter Huttemeier Inviato: luned? 15 giugno 2009 14.05 A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 tc advance curve? - ROVER SD1 WOLF ECU DISTRIBUTOR On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 08:31:24 EDT, you wrote: > > The SD1 has several Achille's heels, injection and ignition parts >that don't last and are now unobtainable. Problems. Which is why I have put in a Wolf ECU and electronic distributor. Goes like the wind now, mind you it is a 4l warm motor, 5 sp gearbox. Not bothering with concours condition, already too many of them in the Club. I am going racing!! The old girl has been taken off the road for a while, will put her on Club Plates. Going to strip her down, put a roll cage in, racing seats and harness, sticky tyres and off I go. Cheers, Peter H _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From agale at iinet.net.au Tue Jun 16 23:05:21 2009 From: agale at iinet.net.au (Alan Gale) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:05:21 +0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica '09 In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP55DBC01577FABBEE8C79B953F0@phx.gbl> References: <4A377CCE.3040900@att.net> <BLU0-SMTP55DBC01577FABBEE8C79B953F0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <1121E66F6ED14BDBA9217099F5E26226@ALAN> Ben - I am surprised you did not get the message. She just did not want to leave you or the island!! Roversentimetally, Alan Gale, Western Australia E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.12620 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ From irishrover1 at sympatico.ca Wed Jun 17 06:19:34 2009 From: irishrover1 at sympatico.ca (BEN RODGERS) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:19:34 -0300 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica '09 References: <4A377CCE.3040900@att.net><BLU0-SMTP55DBC01577FABBEE8C79B953F0@phx.gbl> <1121E66F6ED14BDBA9217099F5E26226@ALAN> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP64514B7C1D0ED930D20791953C0@phx.gbl> Hi Alan You are probably right, but when she reduces one to tears it must be time to move on!!! On the night it failed when loading for Montreal it was late, dark and very cold (Late Nov) there was ice forming on the car. My flash light battery was on its last legs, the truck driver was anxious to get underway. I couldn't test the petronix so changed it back to points-condenser using only a screw driver, guess at the gap etc. After I done all that we discovered the cracked dist cap. I really don't miss her regards Ben (irishrover) Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com From irishrover1 at sympatico.ca Wed Jun 17 07:37:12 2009 From: irishrover1 at sympatico.ca (BEN RODGERS) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:37:12 -0300 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] stearing arm idler References: <29280.23479.qm@web84106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP78284DC6F9BBC7D0FBC5E3953C0@phx.gbl> Hi Peter If you can't find one closer to home I'm sure I have one here on Prince Edward Island. No charge just cost of postage. You can let me know. regards Ben (irishrover) Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090618/0aff977a/attachment.html> From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Thu Jun 18 05:35:27 2009 From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:35:27 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: RoveAmerica '09 In-Reply-To: <4A377CCE.3040900@att.net> References: <4A377CCE.3040900@att.net> Message-ID: <AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A0232E679@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel> Dear friends of the ring, if possible, I' d like to make a cut and paste of your messages about RoveAmerica2009 , of course without the names, to foreward them to the friends of registro italiano rover to speak them about the event. We are more or less 30 enthusiasts, and for us it is beautiful to know thet on the other side of the world there are people who share our passion. Please feel free to tell me yes or no. Best regards, gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Kent Kinard Inviato: marted? 16 giugno 2009 13.07 A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica '09 Hi Netters, I'll echo Glen's remarks. RoveAmerica was outstanding! Dirk is the perfect host and his collection is the perfect venue. It is now a world class collection and the addition of the Streamline will make it more so. It was great to meet Glen after all these years and I was overjoyed to see that he is doing well. I am always interested in how people get into Rovers and am curious about the results of the interviews that were conducted at RoveAmerica. Most of you have been enthusiasts for many years and purchased a Rover new or "inherited" the cars from family or have some sentimental attachment to them. Relatively few of you have come to Rovers after indulging in other brands. Since I am one of the few, I was very interested to meet Real Forest from Montreal. Real has an extensive collection of British, French and Italian cars ( I forgot to ask if he has a Lancia Appia.) and has come to Rovers most recently. He and Claire drove a P5 Mk. III stick shift, a very solid California car. It is very important to understand how people like Real come to Rovers...what attracted them to the marque. Most of us are getting up in years. How do we maintain the interest in the marque and who will we pass our cars along to? There were some cars in progress at RoveAmerica and there are some younger enthusiasts out there, many of whom are struggling in the present economy. I hope we will continue to encourage them and recruit more. Thanks to Eric Russel and RoverNet for doing a great service to us all by keeping us connected and giving the next generation access to a wonderful tradition. Eventually, the automobile as we know it will cease to exist or morph into something unrecognizable. Until then we have a unique contribution to make to automotive history and enjoyment. Thank you all for your hard work and thank you Dirk for a wonderful weekend. Roverly, Kent K. _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From p6rovers at yahoo.com Thu Jun 18 11:52:20 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 08:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: RoveAmerica '09 Message-ID: <133211.91141.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Gianluca, Soon, there will be pictures of a wide range of Rovers from the 1920s forward from the RoveAmerica'09.? We are working on that objective. ? Eric (and others) ? Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ Webmaster of a variety of sites from: http://www.websrus.ca --- On Thu, 6/18/09, gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com> wrote: From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: RoveAmerica '09 To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Received: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 2:35 AM Dear friends of the ring, ??? ??? if possible, I' d like to make a cut and paste of your messages about RoveAmerica2009 , of course without the names, to foreward them to the friends of registro italiano rover to speak them about the event. We are more or less 30 enthusiasts, and for us it is beautiful to know thet on the other side of the world there are people who share our passion. Please feel free? to tell me yes or no. Best regards, gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Kent Kinard Inviato: marted? 16 giugno 2009 13.07 A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica '09 Hi Netters, I'll echo Glen's remarks.? RoveAmerica was outstanding!? Dirk is the perfect host and his collection is the perfect venue.? It is now a world class collection and the addition of the Streamline will make it more so. It was great to meet Glen after all these years and I was overjoyed to see that he is doing well.? I am always interested in how people get into Rovers and am curious about the results of the interviews that were conducted at RoveAmerica.? Most of you have been enthusiasts for many years and purchased a Rover new or "inherited" the cars from family or have some sentimental attachment to them.? Relatively few of you have come to Rovers after indulging in other brands. Since I am one of the few, I was very interested to meet Real Forest from Montreal.? Real has an extensive collection of British, French and Italian cars ( I forgot to ask if he has a Lancia Appia.) and has come to Rovers most recently.? He and Claire drove a P5 Mk. III stick shift, a very solid California car.? It is very important to understand how people like Real come to Rovers...what attracted them to the marque.? Most of us are getting up in years.? How do we maintain the interest in the marque and who will we pass our cars along to?? There were some cars in progress at RoveAmerica and there are some younger enthusiasts out there, many of whom are struggling in the present economy.? I hope we will continue to encourage them and recruit more. Thanks to Eric Russel and RoverNet for doing a great service to us all by keeping us connected and giving the next generation access to a wonderful tradition. Eventually, the automobile as we know it will cease to exist or morph into something unrecognizable.? Until then we have a unique contribution to make to automotive history and enjoyment.? Thank you all for your hard work and thank you Dirk for a wonderful weekend. Roverly, Kent K. _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090618/0dceee9f/attachment.html> From rovercar at comcast.net Thu Jun 18 12:15:32 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:15:32 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: RoveAmerica '09 In-Reply-To: <AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A0232E679@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel> References: <4A377CCE.3040900@att.net> <AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A0232E679@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel> Message-ID: <4A3A6824.3040904@comcast.net> Gianluca, I certainly don't object to your use of my messages. I don't think anyone would object to the use of their names, but maybe the email addresses don't need to be advertised. It would probably be a little bit silly for us to be overly concerned with privacy since we have been spewing things out into the general ether for years! I'm sure that there are people on distant planets reading our posts using some sort of interstellar wireless connection. I hope they treat their abducted Rovers well! ;-) Glen > Dear friends of the ring, > > if possible, I' d like to make a cut and paste of your messages about RoveAmerica2009 , of course without the names, to foreward them to the friends of registro italiano rover to speak them about the event. > > We are more or less 30 enthusiasts, and for us it is beautiful to know thet on the other side of the world there are people who share our passion. > > Please feel free to tell me yes or no. > > Best regards, gianluca. > > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Kent Kinard > Inviato: marted? 16 giugno 2009 13.07 > A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica '09 > > Hi Netters, > I'll echo Glen's remarks. RoveAmerica was outstanding! Dirk is the perfect host and his collection is the perfect venue. It is now a world class collection and the addition of the Streamline will make it more so. > > It was great to meet Glen after all these years and I was overjoyed to see that he is doing well. I am always interested in how people get into Rovers and am curious about the results of the interviews that were conducted at RoveAmerica. Most of you have been enthusiasts for many years and purchased a Rover new or "inherited" the cars from family or have some sentimental attachment to them. Relatively few of you have come to Rovers after indulging in other brands. > > Since I am one of the few, I was very interested to meet Real Forest from Montreal. Real has an extensive collection of British, French and Italian cars ( I forgot to ask if he has a Lancia Appia.) and has come to Rovers most recently. He and Claire drove a P5 Mk. III stick shift, a very solid California car. It is very important to understand how people like Real come to Rovers...what attracted them to the marque. > Most of us are getting up in years. How do we maintain the interest in the marque and who will we pass our cars along to? There were some cars in progress at RoveAmerica and there are some younger enthusiasts out there, many of whom are struggling in the present economy. I hope we will continue to encourage them and recruit more. Thanks to Eric Russel and RoverNet for doing a great service to us all by keeping us connected and giving the next generation access to a wonderful tradition. > > Eventually, the automobile as we know it will cease to exist or morph into something unrecognizable. Until then we have a unique contribution to make to automotive history and enjoyment. Thank you all for your hard work and thank you Dirk for a wonderful weekend. > > Roverly, > Kent K. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Thu Jun 18 12:59:58 2009 From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:59:58 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 TC starter motors, Lucas M100 starters, Rover America. In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1245340818.16019.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> References: <mailman.1.1245340818.16019.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <SNT105-W40554D5D86D9746E26E4E48E3D0@phx.gbl> It was good to meet may fellow Roverites at Rover America 2009. Thanks to Dirk for putting it on. My Rover did make it home despite its somewhat reluctant starter motor. I had to take to it with a hammer once, and I roll started it twice. I changed over to my spare starter motor today, which is a Lucas M100 starter motor, with the correct 10 tooth pinion fitted. I bought this starter off ebay some years ago for a Rover 2000 TC, second hand. My Rover in Australia has been running with a Land Rover 6 cylinder starter motor for about the 10 years. Is the Lucas M100 starter off a Land Rover 6? It looks like the one in Australia with the thicker front casting where it mounts onto the bell housing. It certainly cranks the car over very well. I had 2 starter motors in over 3 years have the casting at the front crack. Then the bolts work their way lose and the pinion starts making strange noises with the motor running. The LR 6 cylinder starter motor is the solution I was recommended in Australia, and I think that is what I have bought off ebay, even though it was sold for a Rover 2000 TC, as I can not find any mention in my books of the M100 starter ever being fitted. James. _________________________________________________________________ Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MLOGEN_Core_tagline_local_1x1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090618/54ffa8d3/attachment.html> From p6rovers at yahoo.com Thu Jun 18 14:27:14 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (p6rovers at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:27:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: RoveAmerica '09 Message-ID: <246206.27148.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I agree with protecting email addresses although they can be determined through member email and archive if a person is a subscriber.? We're somewhat trusting here. I think my SPAM mail received is?generated by too high a profile elsewhere than the Rovernet. ? I am also sure that Dirk would be delighted for Italian Rover enthusiasts?to attend?next year's meet.? Watch for announcements on the Rovernet and on the RoveAmerica and RCCC websites. ? Eric ? Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ Webmaster of a variety of sites from: http://www.websrus.ca --- On Thu, 6/18/09, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote: From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: RoveAmerica '09 To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Received: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 9:15 AM Gianluca, I certainly don't object to your use of my messages. I don't think anyone would object to the use of their names, but maybe the email addresses don't need to be advertised. It would probably be a little bit silly for us to be overly concerned with privacy since we have been spewing things out into the general ether for years! I'm sure that there are people on distant planets reading our posts using some sort of interstellar wireless connection. I hope they treat their abducted Rovers well! ;-) Glen > Dear friends of the ring, > > ??? ??? if possible, I' d like to make a cut and paste of your messages about RoveAmerica2009 , of course without the names, to foreward them to the friends of registro italiano rover to speak them about the event. > > We are more or less 30 enthusiasts, and for us it is beautiful to know thet on the other side of the world there are people who share our passion. > > Please feel free? to tell me yes or no. > > Best regards, gianluca. > > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Kent Kinard > Inviato: marted? 16 giugno 2009 13.07 > A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica '09 > > Hi Netters, > I'll echo Glen's remarks.? RoveAmerica was outstanding!? Dirk is the perfect host and his collection is the perfect venue.? It is now a world class collection and the addition of the Streamline will make it more so. > > It was great to meet Glen after all these years and I was overjoyed to see that he is doing well.? I am always interested in how people get into Rovers and am curious about the results of the interviews that were conducted at RoveAmerica.? Most of you have been enthusiasts for many years and purchased a Rover new or "inherited" the cars from family or have some sentimental attachment to them.? Relatively few of you have come to Rovers after indulging in other brands. > > Since I am one of the few, I was very interested to meet Real Forest from Montreal.? Real has an extensive collection of British, French and Italian cars ( I forgot to ask if he has a Lancia Appia.) and has come to Rovers most recently.? He and Claire drove a P5 Mk. III stick shift, a very solid California car.? It is very important to understand how people like Real come to Rovers...what attracted them to the marque.? > Most of us are getting up in years.? How do we maintain the interest in the marque and who will we pass our cars along to?? There were some cars in progress at RoveAmerica and there are some younger enthusiasts out there, many of whom are struggling in the present economy.? I hope we will continue to encourage them and recruit more. Thanks to Eric Russel and RoverNet for doing a great service to us all by keeping us connected and giving the next generation access to a wonderful tradition. > > Eventually, the automobile as we know it will cease to exist or morph into something unrecognizable.? Until then we have a unique contribution to make to automotive history and enjoyment.? Thank you all for your hard work and thank you Dirk for a wonderful weekend. > > Roverly, > Kent K. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > >??? _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? 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Slats ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Gale" <agale at iinet.net.au> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:05:21 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica '09 Ben - I am surprised you did not get the message. ?She just did not want to leave you or the island!! Roversentimetally, Alan Gale, Western Australia E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.12620 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090618/95c8db02/attachment-0001.html> From slatskars at comcast.net Thu Jun 18 15:09:59 2009 From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:09:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: RoveAmerica '09 In-Reply-To: <4A3A6824.3040904@comcast.net> Message-ID: <360964693.5875551245352199277.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Glen, Gianluca is a government attorney in Italy. He was trained to think like that. Actually, he is a really nice guy in spite of his occupation. It is primarily in the US that attorney's have such a poor reputation. Marie and I met him a few years ago, on one of our visits to Rome. Hope to see him again on our next visit. Slats ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Wilson" <rovercar at comcast.net> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:15:32 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: ?RoveAmerica '09 Gianluca, I certainly don't object to your use of my messages. I don't think anyone would object to the use of their names, but maybe the email addresses don't need to be advertised. It would probably be a little bit silly for us to be overly concerned with privacy since we have been spewing things out into the general ether for years! I'm sure that there are people on distant planets reading our posts using some sort of interstellar wireless connection. I hope they treat their abducted Rovers well! ;-) Glen > Dear friends of the ring, > > ????????????????if possible, I' d like to make a cut and paste of your messages about RoveAmerica2009 , of course without the names, to foreward them to the friends of registro italiano rover to speak them about the event. > > We are more or less 30 enthusiasts, and for us it is beautiful to know thet on the other side of the world there are people who share our passion. > > Please feel free ?to tell me yes or no. > > Best regards, gianluca. > > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Kent Kinard > Inviato: marted? 16 giugno 2009 13.07 > A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica '09 > > Hi Netters, > I'll echo Glen's remarks. ?RoveAmerica was outstanding! ?Dirk is the perfect host and his collection is the perfect venue. ?It is now a world class collection and the addition of the Streamline will make it more so. > > It was great to meet Glen after all these years and I was overjoyed to see that he is doing well. ?I am always interested in how people get into Rovers and am curious about the results of the interviews that were conducted at RoveAmerica. ?Most of you have been enthusiasts for many years and purchased a Rover new or "inherited" the cars from family or have some sentimental attachment to them. ?Relatively few of you have come to Rovers after indulging in other brands. > > Since I am one of the few, I was very interested to meet Real Forest from Montreal. ?Real has an extensive collection of British, French and Italian cars ( I forgot to ask if he has a Lancia Appia.) and has come to Rovers most recently. ?He and Claire drove a P5 Mk. III stick shift, a very solid California car. ?It is very important to understand how people like Real come to Rovers...what attracted them to the marque. ? > Most of us are getting up in years. ?How do we maintain the interest in the marque and who will we pass our cars along to? ?There were some cars in progress at RoveAmerica and there are some younger enthusiasts out there, many of whom are struggling in the present economy. ?I hope we will continue to encourage them and recruit more. Thanks to Eric Russel and RoverNet for doing a great service to us all by keeping us connected and giving the next generation access to a wonderful tradition. > > Eventually, the automobile as we know it will cease to exist or morph into something unrecognizable. ?Until then we have a unique contribution to make to automotive history and enjoyment. ?Thank you all for your hard work and thank you Dirk for a wonderful weekend. > > Roverly, > Kent K. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > ? _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090618/501ee236/attachment.html> From slatskars at comcast.net Thu Jun 18 15:42:10 2009 From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:42:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S timing problems In-Reply-To: <4A36E9DA.9060400@comcast.net> Message-ID: <463056093.5890491245354130118.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Dennis, Not trying to be a wise ass, but did you check to make certain that the connection for the points and condenser (capacitor) was not grounded. I have in fact done it once. This of course gives zero spark. On a Lucas distributor, it is very easy to do when installing the spacers and insulators. I alway look for the simple more obvious items first. Slats http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090618/2437ed5b/attachment.html> From rovercar at comcast.net Thu Jun 18 15:55:48 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:55:48 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: RoveAmerica '09 In-Reply-To: <360964693.5875551245352199277.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <360964693.5875551245352199277.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A3A9BC4.1000608@comcast.net> slatskars at comcast.net wrote: > > Glen, > > > > Gianluca is a government attorney in Italy. He was trained to think > like that. Actually, he is a really nice guy in spite of his occupation. > Well, you have to love a guy that sends a Christmas greeting every year without fail! I might like him even better if his name was Antonio Pollaiolo, which is my favorite name from Art History class. To pronounce it correctly, you have to hold the last "L" on the roof of your mouth for a minimum of three seconds! It's always good to hear from Gianll...lluca! ;-) Glen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090618/393217aa/attachment.html> From dirk at vy-tek.com Thu Jun 18 16:04:32 2009 From: dirk at vy-tek.com (Dirk Burrowes) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:04:32 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoverAmerica In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1245350404.13910.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <C0EEE780A452454CAC49F768250AC752@DirkPC2> Hello All, Thank you for the kind comments regarding the event. It is truly a pleasure for me to do this and I look forward to seeing everyone at the event as this keeps me going on my projects for the entire year. In the 3 short years I have been hosting this event I feel I have made a number of life long friendships and I know others have as well! So this is more then just a car show. I think the event is nearing critical mass and the momentum will be self sustaining. I will be keeping up my "marketing efforts" with the ad hock newsletters and email reminders to everyone. Gianluca, you are of coarse welcome to use my comments or anything on the RoverAmerica website in your quest. If you would like proper Italian text on the RoverAmerica.com website please provide it and I will reformat a page for you with your provided text. Thanks again to all who attended and to those still on the fence your really missing a great time so start planning for next year RoveAmerica 10 Dirk -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of rovernet-request at rovernet.ca Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 2:40 PM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 12, Issue 30 Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to rovernet at rovernet.ca To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to rovernet-request at rovernet.ca You can reach the person managing the list at rovernet-owner at rovernet.ca When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..." Please edit your digest reply by changing the subject line to the topic to which you are referring. Today's Topics: 1. Re: R: RoveAmerica '09 (Glen Wilson) 2. Rover 2000 TC starter motors, Lucas M100 starters, Rover America. (James Radcliffe) 3. Re: R: RoveAmerica '09 (p6rovers at yahoo.com) 4. Re: RoveAmerica '09 (slatskars at comcast.net) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:15:32 -0400 From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: RoveAmerica '09 To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <4A3A6824.3040904 at comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Gianluca, I certainly don't object to your use of my messages. I don't think anyone would object to the use of their names, but maybe the email addresses don't need to be advertised. It would probably be a little bit silly for us to be overly concerned with privacy since we have been spewing things out into the general ether for years! I'm sure that there are people on distant planets reading our posts using some sort of interstellar wireless connection. I hope they treat their abducted Rovers well! ;-) Glen > Dear friends of the ring, > > if possible, I' d like to make a cut and paste of your messages about RoveAmerica2009 , of course without the names, to foreward them to the friends of registro italiano rover to speak them about the event. > > We are more or less 30 enthusiasts, and for us it is beautiful to know thet on the other side of the world there are people who share our passion. > > Please feel free to tell me yes or no. > > Best regards, gianluca. > > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > Per conto di Kent Kinard > Inviato: marted? 16 giugno 2009 13.07 > A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica '09 > > Hi Netters, > I'll echo Glen's remarks. RoveAmerica was outstanding! Dirk is the perfect host and his collection is the perfect venue. It is now a world class collection and the addition of the Streamline will make it more so. > > It was great to meet Glen after all these years and I was overjoyed to see that he is doing well. I am always interested in how people get into Rovers and am curious about the results of the interviews that were conducted at RoveAmerica. Most of you have been enthusiasts for many years and purchased a Rover new or "inherited" the cars from family or have some sentimental attachment to them. Relatively few of you have come to Rovers after indulging in other brands. > > Since I am one of the few, I was very interested to meet Real Forest from Montreal. Real has an extensive collection of British, French and Italian cars ( I forgot to ask if he has a Lancia Appia.) and has come to Rovers most recently. He and Claire drove a P5 Mk. III stick shift, a very solid California car. It is very important to understand how people like Real come to Rovers...what attracted them to the marque. > Most of us are getting up in years. How do we maintain the interest in the marque and who will we pass our cars along to? There were some cars in progress at RoveAmerica and there are some younger enthusiasts out there, many of whom are struggling in the present economy. I hope we will continue to encourage them and recruit more. Thanks to Eric Russel and RoverNet for doing a great service to us all by keeping us connected and giving the next generation access to a wonderful tradition. > > Eventually, the automobile as we know it will cease to exist or morph into something unrecognizable. Until then we have a unique contribution to make to automotive history and enjoyment. Thank you all for your hard work and thank you Dirk for a wonderful weekend. > > Roverly, > Kent K. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:59:58 -0400 From: James Radcliffe <j_radcliffe at hotmail.com> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 TC starter motors, Lucas M100 starters, Rover America. To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <SNT105-W40554D5D86D9746E26E4E48E3D0 at phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" It was good to meet may fellow Roverites at Rover America 2009. Thanks to Dirk for putting it on. My Rover did make it home despite its somewhat reluctant starter motor. I had to take to it with a hammer once, and I roll started it twice. I changed over to my spare starter motor today, which is a Lucas M100 starter motor, with the correct 10 tooth pinion fitted. I bought this starter off ebay some years ago for a Rover 2000 TC, second hand. My Rover in Australia has been running with a Land Rover 6 cylinder starter motor for about the 10 years. Is the Lucas M100 starter off a Land Rover 6? It looks like the one in Australia with the thicker front casting where it mounts onto the bell housing. It certainly cranks the car over very well. I had 2 starter motors in over 3 years have the casting at the front crack. Then the bolts work their way lose and the pinion starts making strange noises with the motor running. The LR 6 cylinder starter motor is the solution I was recommended in Australia, and I think that is what I have bought off ebay, even though it was sold for a Rover 2000 TC, as I can not find any mention in my books of the M100 starter ever being fitted. James. _________________________________________________________________ Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_ MLOGEN_Core_tagline_local_1x1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090618/54ff a8d3/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:27:14 -0700 (PDT) From: p6rovers at yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: RoveAmerica '09 To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <246206.27148.qm at web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I agree with protecting email addresses although they can be determined through member email and archive if a person is a subscriber.? We're somewhat trusting here. I think my SPAM mail received is?generated by too high a profile elsewhere than the Rovernet. ? I am also sure that Dirk would be delighted for Italian Rover enthusiasts?to attend?next year's meet.? Watch for announcements on the Rovernet and on the RoveAmerica and RCCC websites. ? Eric ? Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ Webmaster of a variety of sites from: http://www.websrus.ca --- On Thu, 6/18/09, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote: From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: RoveAmerica '09 To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Received: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 9:15 AM Gianluca, I certainly don't object to your use of my messages. I don't think anyone would object to the use of their names, but maybe the email addresses don't need to be advertised. It would probably be a little bit silly for us to be overly concerned with privacy since we have been spewing things out into the general ether for years! I'm sure that there are people on distant planets reading our posts using some sort of interstellar wireless connection. I hope they treat their abducted Rovers well! ;-) Glen > Dear friends of the ring, > > ??? ??? if possible, I' d like to make a cut and paste of your messages about RoveAmerica2009 , of course without the names, to foreward them to the friends of registro italiano rover to speak them about the event. > > We are more or less 30 enthusiasts, and for us it is beautiful to know thet on the other side of the world there are people who share our passion. > > Please feel free? to tell me yes or no. > > Best regards, gianluca. > > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > Per conto di Kent Kinard > Inviato: marted? 16 giugno 2009 13.07 > A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica '09 > > Hi Netters, > I'll echo Glen's remarks.? RoveAmerica was outstanding!? Dirk is the perfect host and his collection is the perfect venue.? It is now a world class collection and the addition of the Streamline will make it more so. > > It was great to meet Glen after all these years and I was overjoyed to see that he is doing well.? I am always interested in how people get into Rovers and am curious about the results of the interviews that were conducted at RoveAmerica.? Most of you have been enthusiasts for many years and purchased a Rover new or "inherited" the cars from family or have some sentimental attachment to them.? Relatively few of you have come to Rovers after indulging in other brands. > > Since I am one of the few, I was very interested to meet Real Forest from Montreal.? Real has an extensive collection of British, French and Italian cars ( I forgot to ask if he has a Lancia Appia.) and has come to Rovers most recently.? He and Claire drove a P5 Mk. III stick shift, a very solid California car.? It is very important to understand how people like Real come to Rovers...what attracted them to the marque.? > Most of us are getting up in years.? How do we maintain the interest in the marque and who will we pass our cars along to?? There were some cars in progress at RoveAmerica and there are some younger enthusiasts out there, many of whom are struggling in the present economy.? I hope we will continue to encourage them and recruit more. Thanks to Eric Russel and RoverNet for doing a great service to us all by keeping us connected and giving the next generation access to a wonderful tradition. > > Eventually, the automobile as we know it will cease to exist or morph into something unrecognizable.? Until then we have a unique contribution to make to automotive history and enjoyment.? Thank you all for your hard work and thank you Dirk for a wonderful weekend. > > Roverly, > Kent K. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > >??? _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? 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Slats ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Gale" <agale at iinet.net.au> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:05:21 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica '09 Ben - I am surprised you did not get the message. ?She just did not want to leave you or the island!! Roversentimetally, Alan Gale, Western Australia E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.12620 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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He was trained to think >> like that. Actually, he is a really nice guy in spite of his occupation. >> By the way, I just ran across a picture of one of Gianluca's cars at http://www.classiccartests.com/ ;-) Glen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <SNT105-W40554D5D86D9746E26E4E48E3D0@phx.gbl> References: <mailman.1.1245340818.16019.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <SNT105-W40554D5D86D9746E26E4E48E3D0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <47654BA04BB9074C8BC66D8584E1792535B4CE733B@EXCHANGE.ad.transend.com.au> The 2000s have 11 teeth, P4s have 10. I used a P4 starter for years on my TC and I suspect they are better. I have never had a starter crack where you said, usually the shafts bend or the pinions split. I am suspicious of the bellhousing it bolts to. Paul Smith AMIS Developer Transend Networks Pty Ltd, PO Box 606, MOONAH 7009 phone: (03) 6274 3022 fax: (03) 6274 3901 reception: 1300 361 811 Please consider the environment before you print this email. ________________________________ From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of James Radcliffe Sent: Friday, 19 June 2009 3:00 AM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 TC starter motors, Lucas M100 starters, Rover America. It was good to meet may fellow Roverites at Rover America 2009. Thanks to Dirk for putting it on. My Rover did make it home despite its somewhat reluctant starter motor. I had to take to it with a hammer once, and I roll started it twice. I changed over to my spare starter motor today, which is a Lucas M100 starter motor, with the correct 10 tooth pinion fitted. I bought this starter off ebay some years ago for a Rover 2000 TC, second hand. My Rover in Australia has been running with a Land Rover 6 cylinder starter motor for about the 10 years. Is the Lucas M100 starter off a Land Rover 6? It looks like the one in Australia with the thicker front casting where it mounts onto the bell housing. It certainly cranks the car over very well. I had 2 starter motors in over 3 years have the casting at the front crack. Then the bolts work their way lose and the pinion starts making strange noises with the motor running. The LR 6 cylinder starter motor is the solution I was recommended in Australia, and I think that is what I have bought off ebay, even though it was sold for a Rover 2000 TC, as I can not find any mention in my books of the M100 starter ever being fitted. James. ________________________________ Bing(tm) brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. 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I did get 'best special interest British car' at the Cape Cod British Car show that weekend (Mainly because I was teh only one that wasn't a Triumph, MG of Jag!). The TC then threw its toys out of the pram on the drive home with the front box of the exhaust parting company somewhere in Connecticut on the way home. Sounded like a Brooklands racer and scared the guy tailgating me! So looking for a new front and back box now. hopefully see everyone next year, Steven From Paul.Smith at transend.com.au Thu Jun 18 18:18:07 2009 From: Paul.Smith at transend.com.au (Paul Smith) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 08:18:07 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoverAmerica In-Reply-To: <BAY106-W32E01FAE362BCAA40BD36B03D0@phx.gbl> References: <mailman.1.1245350404.13910.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <C0EEE780A452454CAC49F768250AC752@DirkPC2> <BAY106-W32E01FAE362BCAA40BD36B03D0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <47654BA04BB9074C8BC66D8584E1792535B4CE733C@EXCHANGE.ad.transend.com.au> If you can weld you can get an identical front can from any exhaust shop and cut & weld the pipes on to it. Paul Smith AMIS Developer Transend Networks Pty Ltd, PO Box 606, MOONAH 7009 phone: (03) 6274 3022 fax: (03) 6274 3901 reception: 1300 361 811 Please consider the environment before you print this email. -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Steven Dibdin Sent: Friday, 19 June 2009 8:15 AM To: RoverNet Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoverAmerica Hi All, I'm so sorry I couldn't make it this year. I did get 'best special interest British car' at the Cape Cod British Car show that weekend (Mainly because I was teh only one that wasn't a Triumph, MG of Jag!). The TC then threw its toys out of the pram on the drive home with the front box of the exhaust parting company somewhere in Connecticut on the way home. Sounded like a Brooklands racer and scared the guy tailgating me! So looking for a new front and back box now. hopefully see everyone next year, Steven _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ########################################################################################## The information contained in this message, and any attachments, may include confidential or privileged information and is intended solely for the named recipient(s). If you are not a named recipient of this message, you may not copy or deliver the contents of this message or its attachments to anyone. If you have received this message in error, please notify me immediately by return email or by the telephone number listed above and destroy the original message. Transend utilises third party virus checking software and will not be held responsible for the inability of third party software packages to detect or prevent the propagation of any virus how so ever generated. ########################################################################################## From magnet at roverclub.org Thu Jun 18 18:46:44 2009 From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:46:44 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica 09 Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP27883A3763ACACDE203C2A913D0@phx.gbl> Greetings all, Cheryl and I got back late last night from Dirk's fabulous event, after a pleasant if wet tour of scenic Vermont and New York State. The Rover accomplished the trip in true Rover fashion -- no noise, no bother, just steadily reeling off the miles. We met a number of people along the way who were attracted by the car: I had parked in Bellows Falls, Vt. to take some photographs, and a chap came out of his house to admire it. He told Cheryl that he had never heard of a Rover, so she was able to fill him in on the car's antecedents. Another chap somewhere in New York wanted to know if it was a Silver Cloud (!). Another fellow on the Wolfe Island ferry was fascinated by the viking on the bonnet. But the most enthusiastic contact came while I was filling the tank in Hanover, N.H. A fellow hopped out of a Porsche and came running over, saying "Hey, that's a Rover P4!!" I modestly admitted that it was. When he found out I had driven it "all the way from Canada" (!), he was so excited that he practically offered to trade cars with me. I'm glad he didn't, though, as I would have had to disappoint him. I see that Glen, Eric, Kent, and others have already expressed what I'm sure we all feel in the way of gratitude and appreciation to Dirk for conceiving and hosting this marvellous event. And Cheryl has asked me to say how much she enjoyed the opportunity to see other enthusiasts' cars and to chat with them (the enthusiasts, that is, not the cars). She is, as many of you will know, a Roverite herself -- she used to drive the 90 and now has a '73 Land Rover and '93 Range Rover, and she was very happy to meet up with other Rover ladies and to have a chance to get to know Lisiane better. Both of us are already looking forward to next year's event. When I get all my photos back from processing (yes, I'm still using film), I'll put an assortment up on the TARC web site. Thanks again to Dirk and his wonderful family, and to Joe and Marianne Allen, and to all the others who helped make this event the grand success that it was. Best regards, -- Bill Daddis From sdibdin at hotmail.com Thu Jun 18 18:45:24 2009 From: sdibdin at hotmail.com (Hotmail) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:45:24 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoverAmerica In-Reply-To: <47654BA04BB9074C8BC66D8584E1792535B4CE733C@EXCHANGE.ad.transend.com.au> References: <mailman.1.1245350404.13910.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <C0EEE780A452454CAC49F768250AC752@DirkPC2> <BAY106-W32E01FAE362BCAA40BD36B03D0@phx.gbl> <47654BA04BB9074C8BC66D8584E1792535B4CE733C@EXCHANGE.ad.transend.com.au> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP91F4AE64C7F80FCF5FBCB0B03D0@phx.gbl> Hmm, I could do that. To be honest I think the back resonator has had it too. So I reckon I should just bite the bullet and get SS boxes that have the correct back pressure and that. Cheers, Steven From Paul.Smith at transend.com.au Thu Jun 18 19:08:08 2009 From: Paul.Smith at transend.com.au (Paul Smith) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:08:08 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoverAmerica In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP91F4AE64C7F80FCF5FBCB0B03D0@phx.gbl> References: <mailman.1.1245350404.13910.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <C0EEE780A452454CAC49F768250AC752@DirkPC2> <BAY106-W32E01FAE362BCAA40BD36B03D0@phx.gbl> <47654BA04BB9074C8BC66D8584E1792535B4CE733C@EXCHANGE.ad.transend.com.au> <BLU0-SMTP91F4AE64C7F80FCF5FBCB0B03D0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <47654BA04BB9074C8BC66D8584E1792535B4CE733E@EXCHANGE.ad.transend.com.au> I recommend stainless for the back one, but it is not crucial for the front one. That is how my SC is set up. Paul Smith AMIS Developer Transend Networks Pty Ltd, PO Box 606, MOONAH 7009 phone: (03) 6274 3022 fax: (03) 6274 3901 reception: 1300 361 811 Please consider the environment before you print this email. -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Hotmail Sent: Friday, 19 June 2009 8:45 AM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Cc: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoverAmerica Hmm, I could do that. To be honest I think the back resonator has had it too. So I reckon I should just bite the bullet and get SS boxes that have the correct back pressure and that. Cheers, Steven _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ########################################################################################## The information contained in this message, and any attachments, may include confidential or privileged information and is intended solely for the named recipient(s). If you are not a named recipient of this message, you may not copy or deliver the contents of this message or its attachments to anyone. If you have received this message in error, please notify me immediately by return email or by the telephone number listed above and destroy the original message. 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So looking for a new front and back box now. hopefully see everyone next year, Steven" I seem to remember that you had an oil leak in the engine area last year.? Your priceless remark then was, ".......... it smelled like an oil refinery......"[in the cabin] ? Keep them coming? :-)) ? Eric __________________________________________________________________ Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Yahoo! Mail: http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/newmail/overview2/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090618/388468e3/attachment.html> From goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com Thu Jun 18 21:35:27 2009 From: goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com (Dennis Brooks) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:35:27 -0300 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S timing problems In-Reply-To: <463056093.5890491245354130118.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <4A36E9DA.9060400@comcast.net> <463056093.5890491245354130118.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <COL114-W313445A75453B7873A9CDADE3A0@phx.gbl> Don't worry about asking the obvious...sometimes it's right in front of us...lol.. But I did check and I do have good spark...also the fuel is flowing properly from the pump into the su's. I do have a question... Do I HAVE to raise the engine to remove the timing chain ???? and is it a BIG task to change ? Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:42:10 +0000 From: slatskars at comcast.net To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S timing problems Dennis, Not trying to be a wise ass, but did you check to make certain that the connection for the points and condenser (capacitor) was not grounded. I have in fact done it once. This of course gives zero spark. On a Lucas distributor, it is very easy to do when installing the spacers and insulators. I alway look for the simple more obvious items first. Slats http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _________________________________________________________________ Create a cool, new character for your Windows Live? Messenger. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9656621 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090618/e16e909d/attachment.html> From rovercar at comcast.net Thu Jun 18 23:58:28 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:58:28 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S timing problems In-Reply-To: <COL114-W313445A75453B7873A9CDADE3A0@phx.gbl> References: <4A36E9DA.9060400@comcast.net> <463056093.5890491245354130118.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <COL114-W313445A75453B7873A9CDADE3A0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <4A3B0CE4.3030300@comcast.net> Dennis Brooks wrote: > I do have a question... > Do I HAVE to raise the engine to remove the timing chain ???? and is > it a BIG task to change ? Everyone may say I'm crazy, but one of the worst jobs I did was getting the radiator and/or fan out of my 3500S. My car had AC which complicated the process no end. No room. No part wanted to be the first one out. "I'll come out if the other parts come out first!" Hope your Canadian car doesn't have AC... Glen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090618/5e15dfce/attachment.html> From Paul.Smith at transend.com.au Fri Jun 19 00:04:55 2009 From: Paul.Smith at transend.com.au (Paul Smith) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:04:55 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S timing problems In-Reply-To: <4A3B0CE4.3030300@comcast.net> References: <4A36E9DA.9060400@comcast.net> <463056093.5890491245354130118.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <COL114-W313445A75453B7873A9CDADE3A0@phx.gbl> <4A3B0CE4.3030300@comcast.net> Message-ID: <47654BA04BB9074C8BC66D8584E1792535B4CE7348@EXCHANGE.ad.transend.com.au> No AC and I had the same problem. I didn't put the cowling back and there is no heat problem, radiator is now easy. Paul Smith AMIS Developer Transend Networks Pty Ltd, PO Box 606, MOONAH 7009 phone: (03) 6274 3022 fax: (03) 6274 3901 reception: 1300 361 811 Please consider the environment before you print this email. ________________________________ From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Glen Wilson Sent: Friday, 19 June 2009 1:58 PM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S timing problems Dennis Brooks wrote: I do have a question... Do I HAVE to raise the engine to remove the timing chain ???? and is it a BIG task to change ? Everyone may say I'm crazy, but one of the worst jobs I did was getting the radiator and/or fan out of my 3500S. My car had AC which complicated the process no end. No room. No part wanted to be the first one out. "I'll come out if the other parts come out first!" Hope your Canadian car doesn't have AC... 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090619/7c1ddba2/attachment-0001.html> From R.Thornton at adelaidecitycouncil.com Fri Jun 19 00:34:46 2009 From: R.Thornton at adelaidecitycouncil.com (Robert Thornton) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:04:46 +0930 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P6 "racer" photos on flickr In-Reply-To: <6205CA9937E44154864967C8287548E4@rw> References: <EE0A66CC-43C0-401B-B128-2580724F0E87@telusplanet.net> <6205CA9937E44154864967C8287548E4@rw> Message-ID: <816735D7904A6C42A6D5B0DDFC0EAB4E0286830DCB@ACCMX01.adelaide.sa.gov.au> Not quite as slick/wild looking as the works teams/Camel car of the late 60s - mid 70s but eye-catching nonetheless. Seems to be a few more P6s coming onto the classic race car scene lately including of course this one www.teamwillpower.org Rob -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of RoverP6 at gmx.de Sent: Friday, 19 June 2009 6:51 AM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P6 "racer" photos on flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscenemag/3625655531/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscenemag/3626472290/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscenemag/3625654669/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscenemag/3625654669/ Rudiger www.RoverP6.info _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Fri Jun 19 04:53:31 2009 From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:53:31 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: R: RoveAmerica '09 In-Reply-To: <4A3A9EE2.5040209@comcast.net> References: <360964693.5875551245352199277.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><4A3A9BC4.1000608@comcast.net> <4A3A9EE2.5040209@comcast.net> Message-ID: <AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A0232EEAB@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel> Dear friends, I am not a government attorney, I would like but there are some differences. Firt of all, they receive a very huge wage, and they make an AUTOMATIC career because they' re promoted in order of seniority only, at the end they earn just like the deputees at the Parlament. Of course there are other things, but i prefere to speak abou cars. I am only a lawyer, something like a corporate lawyer, but with a very big rover passion. About the photo I have the car, but could also be interested in the girl!! Best regards, Gianluca. ________________________________ Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Glen Wilson Inviato: gioved? 18 giugno 2009 22.09 A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: RoveAmerica '09 Glen Wilson wrote: slatskars at comcast.net wrote: Glen, Gianluca is a government attorney in Italy. He was trained to think like that. Actually, he is a really nice guy in spite of his occupation. By the way, I just ran across a picture of one of Gianluca's cars at http://www.classiccartests.com/ ;-) Glen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090619/139464f1/attachment.html> From slatskars at comcast.net Fri Jun 19 13:28:07 2009 From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:28:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S timing problems In-Reply-To: <COL114-W313445A75453B7873A9CDADE3A0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <764669950.6220051245432487340.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Hi Dennis, Yes, sometimes the obvious is difficult to spot. I had an intermittent starting problem on an MGB that took a few trys to find. At times the starter just would not engage. I checked all the obvious connections including the ground connection at the rear license plate mount and then it worked. Only to fail again on the first stop on the way home. The final solution was a loose push on connector to the starter relay. At another time while on an extended trip in the same car, the points were going out. So, I installed a new Petronix that I had just picked up, (this was along the freeway in Seattle at rush hour on a Friday). I changed it in 20 minutes, set the timing by eyeball and drove on. About 30 minutes later the car suddenly died. Pulled over and found that one of the push-on connectors to the coil had come off. Tightened it slightly with a pair of pliers and no more troubles for the next 500 miles to the ABFM and home. Those simple electrical connection can and will get you instantly. Slats ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Brooks" <goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 7:35:27 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S timing problems Don't worry about asking the obvious...sometimes it's right in front of us...lol.. ?But I did check and I do have good spark...also the fuel is flowing properly from the pump into the su's. ?I do have a question... ?Do I HAVE to raise the engine to remove the timing chain ???? and is it a BIG task to change ? ? Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:42:10 +0000 From: slatskars at comcast.net To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S timing problems Dennis, ? Not trying to be a wise ass, but did you check to make certain that the connection for the points and condenser (capacitor) was not grounded. I have in fact done it once. This of course gives zero spark. On a Lucas distributor, it is very easy to do when installing the spacers and insulators. I alway look for the simple more obvious items first. ? Slats http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ Create a cool, new character for your Windows Live? Messenger. Check it out _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090619/27c89d53/attachment.html> From goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com Fri Jun 19 16:10:00 2009 From: goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com (Dennis Brooks) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:10:00 -0300 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S timing problems In-Reply-To: <4A3B0CE4.3030300@comcast.net> References: <4A36E9DA.9060400@comcast.net> <463056093.5890491245354130118.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <COL114-W313445A75453B7873A9CDADE3A0@phx.gbl> <4A3B0CE4.3030300@comcast.net> Message-ID: <COL114-W21DCEEAB3E695743A5FE24DE3A0@phx.gbl> There are times I wish it had...this however will probally not be one of them by what you describe :) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:58:28 -0400 From: rovercar at comcast.net To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S timing problems Dennis Brooks wrote: I do have a question... Do I HAVE to raise the engine to remove the timing chain ???? and is it a BIG task to change ? Everyone may say I'm crazy, but one of the worst jobs I did was getting the radiator and/or fan out of my 3500S. My car had AC which complicated the process no end. No room. No part wanted to be the first one out. "I'll come out if the other parts come out first!" Hope your Canadian car doesn't have AC... Glen _________________________________________________________________ We are your photos. Share us now with Windows Live Photos. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9666047 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090619/cbf6333f/attachment.html> From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com Sat Jun 20 00:42:55 2009 From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 04:42:55 +0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 TC starter motors, Lucas M100 starters, Rover America. In-Reply-To: <47654BA04BB9074C8BC66D8584E1792535B4CE733B@EXCHANGE.ad.transend.com.au> References: <mailman.1.1245340818.16019.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <SNT105-W40554D5D86D9746E26E4E48E3D0@phx.gbl> <47654BA04BB9074C8BC66D8584E1792535B4CE733B@EXCHANGE.ad.transend.com.au> Message-ID: <BAY120-W5A1C98D7B847EBADA8632B83B0@phx.gbl> Ditto that. I have a 1958 P4 105 starter on my '69 TC - works perfectly. From: Paul.Smith at transend.com.au To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 08:03:24 +1000 Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 TC starter motors, Lucas M100 starters, Rover America. The 2000s have 11 teeth, P4s have 10. I used a P4 starter for years on my TC and I suspect they are better. I have never had a starter crack where you said, usually the shafts bend or the pinions split. I am suspicious of the bellhousing it bolts to. Paul Smith AMIS Developer Transend Networks Pty Ltd, PO Box 606, MOONAH 7009 phone: (03) 6274 3022 fax: (03) 6274 3901 reception: 1300 361 811 Please consider the environment before you print this email. From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of James Radcliffe Sent: Friday, 19 June 2009 3:00 AM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 TC starter motors, Lucas M100 starters, Rover America. It was good to meet may fellow Roverites at Rover America 2009. Thanks to Dirk for putting it on. My Rover did make it home despite its somewhat reluctant starter motor. I had to take to it with a hammer once, and I roll started it twice. I changed over to my spare starter motor today, which is a Lucas M100 starter motor, with the correct 10 tooth pinion fitted. I bought this starter off ebay some years ago for a Rover 2000 TC, second hand. My Rover in Australia has been running with a Land Rover 6 cylinder starter motor for about the 10 years. Is the Lucas M100 starter off a Land Rover 6? It looks like the one in Australia with the thicker front casting where it mounts onto the bell housing. It certainly cranks the car over very well. I had 2 starter motors in over 3 years have the casting at the front crack. Then the bolts work their way lose and the pinion starts making strange noises with the motor running. The LR 6 cylinder starter motor is the solution I was recommended in Australia, and I think that is what I have bought off ebay, even though it was sold for a Rover 2000 TC, as I can not find any mention in my books of the M100 starter ever being fitted. James. Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. The information contained in this message, and any attachments, may include confidential or privileged information and is intended solely for the named recipient(s). 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In-Reply-To: <AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A018C2AAC@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel> References: <20090205094207.NSXJ19114.nskntotgx01p.mx.bigpond.com@Boulter> <498B2336.6010901@xoz.dk> <AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A018C2AAC@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel> Message-ID: <BE4CCE09-DDCE-4281-87B9-638A61620573@comcast.net> Hi all, Does anyone have a modern day part number for a (1964) P5 thermostat? I bought one 5 or 6 years ago, and now can't locate the paperwork. Thanks, Peter From lafbery at telus.net Sun Jun 21 00:23:54 2009 From: lafbery at telus.net (Barry & Shirley Lafbery) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 21:23:54 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 thermostat cross reference? In-Reply-To: <BE4CCE09-DDCE-4281-87B9-638A61620573@comcast.net> References: <20090205094207.NSXJ19114.nskntotgx01p.mx.bigpond.com@Boulter><498B2336.6010901@xoz.dk><AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A018C2AAC@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel> <BE4CCE09-DDCE-4281-87B9-638A61620573@comcast.net> Message-ID: <3AEA317E47064B77A3566EC9DFBDFECC@ChloePC> Motor-Rad Fail Safe 7200-1600 available in Canada at Candian Tire. Not sure where you are. Barry > Hi all, > > Does anyone have a modern day part number for a (1964) P5 thermostat? > I bought one 5 or 6 years ago, and now can't locate the paperwork. > > Thanks, > > Peter > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.81/2189 - Release Date: 06/20/09 06:15:00 From MarkCoorparoo at aol.com Sun Jun 21 06:48:44 2009 From: MarkCoorparoo at aol.com (MarkCoorparoo at aol.com) Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 06:48:44 EDT Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S timing Message-ID: <c97.4557688b.376f6a0c@aol.com> Stick your finger over the plug hole and feel for the compression stroke ! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090621/41218561/attachment.html> From MarkCoorparoo at aol.com Sun Jun 21 08:36:30 2009 From: MarkCoorparoo at aol.com (MarkCoorparoo at aol.com) Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 08:36:30 EDT Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD1 Achilles Heel Message-ID: <ce5.530358c0.376f834e@aol.com> Was 2000 tc advance curve. Hi Peter and All, I had a discussion with a bloke at All British Day here in Brisbane a couple of years ago on the merits of Wolf v. MegaSquirt open source injection. A bloke out on the road to Toowoomba has built a MegaSquirt and is happy with it. He is on another forum. Had hoped to catch up with him some time. I have had a think about aftermarket ECU's and the Wolf seems to be a better idea than Open Source. It has it own controller from memory. No laptop required. My first SD1 is sitting in the front yard waiting for me to turn it into a race car. Have you had a look at the current Improved Production rules. They are a bit different to the rules my dad raced under in the 1960's. There is a Chev powered SD1 Sports Sedan somewhere in SE Qld. but that is too much work these days. I saw it for sale a couple of years ago for about $12,000. I don't think anyone has built an Improved Production SD1 yet. It would be nice to get a ruling on exactly which blocks you can use, heads are free. Then, an Improved Production may also be kept down to being road registerable. Good luck with the Old Girl. Regards, MWJ. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090621/6e8d695f/attachment.html> From veetwinrider at yahoo.com Sun Jun 21 08:47:40 2009 From: veetwinrider at yahoo.com (roland) Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 05:47:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica pictures Message-ID: <381887.94963.qm@web180505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Bill, that's for posting those pictures. Someday I'll make it to the east coast for it. That P3 is a beauty! Well done Dirk. roland --- On Sat, 6/20/09, Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org> wrote: From: Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica pictures To: "ROVERNET" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Cc: "Bill Robertson" <rover2000nut at hotmail.com>, "Bill Osmond" <rretreat at nexicom.net>, "Rosy Bruce Findlay" <bfindlay at pathcom.com>, "William Daddis" <wrsdaddis at gmail.com> Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 4:34 PM For those Rover enthusiasts who were unable to attend this year's RoveAmerica gathering, here are a few pictures. http://www.roverclub.org/ra09/ra09pics1.htm I will post more pictures of this great event as soon as the rest of films are processed... Cheers, -- Bill Daddis _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From MarkCoorparoo at aol.com Sun Jun 21 09:34:39 2009 From: MarkCoorparoo at aol.com (MarkCoorparoo at aol.com) Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 09:34:39 EDT Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 tc advance curve? Message-ID: <c5c.5283ff05.376f90ef@aol.com> Hi All, Rob Thornton, you have done it again. Probably also provided Slats with some info to use with his recently acquired dizzy machines. Not working on the Rovers at the moment but might have to try and find a new 35D8. Regards, MWJ. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090621/8af088b7/attachment.html> From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Sun Jun 21 12:47:45 2009 From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe) Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:47:45 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 thermostat. In-Reply-To: <mailman.9.1245600046.13846.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> References: <mailman.9.1245600046.13846.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <SNT105-W49F4C6CEC6705338CB2EEE8E380@phx.gbl> > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:42:39 -0400 > From: peter king <peterispeter at comcast.net> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 thermostat cross reference? > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <BE4CCE09-DDCE-4281-87B9-638A61620573 at comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Hi all, > > Does anyone have a modern day part number for a (1964) P5 thermostat? > I bought one 5 or 6 years ago, and now can't locate the paperwork. > > Thanks, > > Peter > >**************** Advance autoparts list Stant 13008, 13358, 45358, all 180 degrees. rockauto.com lists gates 33008S 180 degrees, gates 33006S 160 degrees, and STANT Part # 35356 (160 degrees). _________________________________________________________________ Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MLOGEN_Core_tagline_local_1x1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090621/ab09726d/attachment.html> From gwarrensmith at zoominternet.net Sun Jun 21 21:33:26 2009 From: gwarrensmith at zoominternet.net (G. Warren Smith) Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:33:26 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front Flasher Lens Message-ID: <3A.11.11978.66FDE3A4@cm-1.zoominternet.net> Hi All, Before I take my 1970 3500S in for inspection, I need to find a good used amber lens for my right front flasher lamp. If anyone has a spare available that I could acquire, I'd appreciate hearing from you. Sorry to have missed the RoveAmerica event, but too many other responsibilities here to get away. The photos are great and I hope to join the group next year! Thanks, Warren G. Warren Smith 101 Ayyar Court Slippery Rock, PA 16057 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090621/39eab78c/attachment.html> From kkinard at att.net Sun Jun 21 22:20:16 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:20:16 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front Flasher Lens In-Reply-To: <3A.11.11978.66FDE3A4@cm-1.zoominternet.net> References: <3A.11.11978.66FDE3A4@cm-1.zoominternet.net> Message-ID: <4A3EEA60.40602@att.net> Hi Warren, I probably have some new ones, but it will be the middle of the week before I can go check. Can you give me the number off the lens? Roverly, Kent K. G. Warren Smith wrote: > Hi All, > > Before I take my 1970 3500S in for inspection, I need to find a good > used _amber lens for my right front flasher lamp_. If anyone has a > spare available that I could acquire, I'd appreciate hearing from you. > > Sorry to have missed the RoveAmerica event, but too many other > responsibilities here to get away. The photos are great and I hope to > join the group next year! Thanks, > > Warren > > G. Warren Smith > 101 Ayyar Court > Slippery Rock, PA 16057 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From rovercar at comcast.net Sun Jun 21 23:03:59 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:03:59 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front Flasher Lens In-Reply-To: <3A.11.11978.66FDE3A4@cm-1.zoominternet.net> References: <3A.11.11978.66FDE3A4@cm-1.zoominternet.net> Message-ID: <4A3EF49F.4030309@comcast.net> Warren, The one that falls easily to hand is a clear one, but I have several good amber ones somewhere. Things are still a jumble since we moved. If I find them before Kent gets to his, I'll let you know. Glen G. Warren Smith wrote: > Hi All, > > Before I take my 1970 3500S in for inspection, I need to find a good > used _amber lens for my right front flasher lamp_. If anyone has a > spare available that I could acquire, I'd appreciate hearing from you. > > Sorry to have missed the RoveAmerica event, but too many other > responsibilities here to get away. The photos are great and I hope to > join the group next year! Thanks, > > Warren > > G. Warren Smith > 101 Ayyar Court > Slippery Rock, PA 16057 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.85/2193 - Release Date: 06/21/09 20:02:00 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090621/088894fc/attachment.html> From MarkCoorparoo at aol.com Mon Jun 22 05:44:00 2009 From: MarkCoorparoo at aol.com (MarkCoorparoo at aol.com) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 05:44:00 EDT Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: 2000 tc advance curve? - ROVER SD1 WOLF ECU... Message-ID: <d38.4edbf291.3770ac60@aol.com> Hi Gianluca and All, Just catching up. For the Wolf gear have a look at their website, www.wolfems.com They are more into complete engine management systems. The electronic Distributor we mentioned is the 123 Ignition. It is a complete programable electronic ignition contained in a new replacement distributor body. The original caps fit it. Have a look at some of the Rover stuff at this page, http://www.123ignition.nl/brand/Rover.html Here are some other sites, www.motec.com.au and www.autronic.com.au Have a look at MegaSquirt for open source Injection via your Search engine. Regards, MWJ. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090622/2028c221/attachment.html> From kkinard at att.net Mon Jun 22 07:10:29 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 06:10:29 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front Flasher Lens In-Reply-To: <4A3EF49F.4030309@comcast.net> References: <3A.11.11978.66FDE3A4@cm-1.zoominternet.net> <4A3EF49F.4030309@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A3F66A5.50300@att.net> Hi Glen, I think he means the ones below the bumper, that's why I asked for the Lucas number off the lens itself. Roverly, Kent K. Glen Wilson wrote: > Warren, > > The one that falls easily to hand is a clear one, but I have several > good amber ones somewhere. Things are still a jumble since we moved. > If I find them before Kent gets to his, I'll let you know. > > Glen > > > G. Warren Smith wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> Before I take my 1970 3500S in for inspection, I need to find a good >> used _amber lens for my right front flasher lamp_. If anyone has a >> spare available that I could acquire, I'd appreciate hearing from you. >> >> Sorry to have missed the RoveAmerica event, but too many other >> responsibilities here to get away. The photos are great and I hope >> to join the group next year! Thanks, >> >> Warren >> >> G. Warren Smith >> 101 Ayyar Court >> Slippery Rock, PA 16057 >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.85/2193 - Release Date: 06/21/09 20:02:00 >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From smokeandsteam at gmail.com Mon Jun 22 11:01:14 2009 From: smokeandsteam at gmail.com (Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:01:14 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front Flasher Lens In-Reply-To: <3A.11.11978.66FDE3A4@cm-1.zoominternet.net> References: <3A.11.11978.66FDE3A4@cm-1.zoominternet.net> Message-ID: <204ec4390906220801x5dc8b73cyf51d8b98d1f83c@mail.gmail.com> Warren Drop me line if you still need this - I seem to have quite a lot of bits like this. I see Kent and Glen have also offered but I know exactly where all my lighting bits are if you're in a hurry. Aidrian On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 6:33 PM, G. Warren Smith < gwarrensmith at zoominternet.net> wrote: > Hi All, > > Before I take my 1970 3500S in for inspection, I need to find a good used > *amber lens for my right front flasher lamp*. If anyone has a spare > available that I could acquire, I'd appreciate hearing from you. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090622/ffe6ff63/attachment.html> From rovercar at comcast.net Mon Jun 22 11:35:28 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:35:28 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front Flasher Lens In-Reply-To: <4A3F66A5.50300@att.net> References: <3A.11.11978.66FDE3A4@cm-1.zoominternet.net> <4A3EF49F.4030309@comcast.net> <4A3F66A5.50300@att.net> Message-ID: <4A3FA4C0.1060001@comcast.net> Kent Kinard wrote: > Hi Glen, > I think he means the ones below the bumper, that's why I asked for the > Lucas number off the lens itself. > > Roverly, > Kent K. Ain't got none of those suckers! Never did quite understand why they went with those. The other lamps were up where you could actually see them, though I'll admit they were a bit smaller. Glen > > Glen Wilson wrote: >> Warren, >> >> The one that falls easily to hand is a clear one, but I have several >> good amber ones somewhere. Things are still a jumble since we moved. >> If I find them before Kent gets to his, I'll let you know. >> >> Glen >> >> >> G. Warren Smith wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Before I take my 1970 3500S in for inspection, I need to find a good >>> used _amber lens for my right front flasher lamp_. If anyone has a >>> spare available that I could acquire, I'd appreciate hearing from you. >>> >>> Sorry to have missed the RoveAmerica event, but too many other >>> responsibilities here to get away. The photos are great and I hope >>> to join the group next year! Thanks, >>> >>> Warren >>> >>> G. Warren Smith >>> 101 Ayyar Court >>> Slippery Rock, PA 16057 >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Rovernet mailing list >>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >>> no-mail: >>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: >>> 270.12.85/2193 - Release Date: 06/21/09 20:02:00 >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >> no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.85/2193 - Release Date: 06/21/09 20:02:00 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:35:28 -0400 From: rovercar at comcast.net To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front Flasher Lens Kent Kinard wrote: Hi Glen, I think he means the ones below the bumper, that's why I asked for the Lucas number off the lens itself. Roverly, Kent K. Ain't got none of those suckers! Never did quite understand why they went with those. The other lamps were up where you could actually see them, though I'll admit they were a bit smaller. Glen Glen Wilson wrote: Warren, The one that falls easily to hand is a clear one, but I have several good amber ones somewhere. Things are still a jumble since we moved. If I find them before Kent gets to his, I'll let you know. Glen G. Warren Smith wrote: Hi All, Before I take my 1970 3500S in for inspection, I need to find a good used _amber lens for my right front flasher lamp_. If anyone has a spare available that I could acquire, I'd appreciate hearing from you. Sorry to have missed the RoveAmerica event, but too many other responsibilities here to get away. The photos are great and I hope to join the group next year! Thanks, Warren G. Warren Smith 101 Ayyar Court Slippery Rock, PA 16057 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.85/2193 - Release Date: 06/21/09 20:02:00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ No virus found in this incoming message. 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090622/9a6c0507/attachment.html> From gbbourque at hotmail.com Mon Jun 22 11:43:50 2009 From: gbbourque at hotmail.com (garrett bourque) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:43:50 +0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front Flasher Lens In-Reply-To: <4A3FA4C0.1060001@comcast.net> References: <3A.11.11978.66FDE3A4@cm-1.zoominternet.net> <4A3EF49F.4030309@comcast.net> <4A3F66A5.50300@att.net> <4A3FA4C0.1060001@comcast.net> Message-ID: <SNT108-W37F394BD74A17C4FFDB140A1390@phx.gbl> Hello Rovernetters, I wanted to express my thanks to Dirk and family for the great event put on in Fitchburg earlier! As for the 3500s flasher lens needed, it also fit an MGB prior to 1975, if that makes finding one locally any easier for the one who needs it. They are not sided, and came in one piece or two...the rover cars take the single one. There are more MGB parts people around than Rover ones. I do have a few of them if nobody else does. Garrett Bourque gbbourque at hotmail.com Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:35:28 -0400 From: rovercar at comcast.net To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front Flasher Lens Kent Kinard wrote: Hi Glen, I think he means the ones below the bumper, that's why I asked for the Lucas number off the lens itself. Roverly, Kent K. Ain't got none of those suckers! Never did quite understand why they went with those. The other lamps were up where you could actually see them, though I'll admit they were a bit smaller. Glen Glen Wilson wrote: Warren, The one that falls easily to hand is a clear one, but I have several good amber ones somewhere. Things are still a jumble since we moved. If I find them before Kent gets to his, I'll let you know. Glen G. Warren Smith wrote: Hi All, Before I take my 1970 3500S in for inspection, I need to find a good used _amber lens for my right front flasher lamp_. If anyone has a spare available that I could acquire, I'd appreciate hearing from you. Sorry to have missed the RoveAmerica event, but too many other responsibilities here to get away. The photos are great and I hope to join the group next year! Thanks, Warren G. Warren Smith 101 Ayyar Court Slippery Rock, PA 16057 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.85/2193 - Release Date: 06/21/09 20:02:00 _________________________________________________________________ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that?s right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090622/0fc397c0/attachment.html> From peter at king-co.com Mon Jun 22 11:55:21 2009 From: peter at king-co.com (peter king) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:55:21 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 thermostat. In-Reply-To: <SNT105-W49F4C6CEC6705338CB2EEE8E380@phx.gbl> References: <mailman.9.1245600046.13846.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <SNT105-W49F4C6CEC6705338CB2EEE8E380@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <C75C5A5C-2095-4C8D-BA56-22D9F8614F9F@king-co.com> Thanks for that info, James (and Barry!) Snapped two rotten bolt heads off removing the water pump, so more adventures ahead! I'm glad to have it apart, though. Gives me the chance to change out belts and give the engine a good clean. Peter On Jun 21, 2009, at 12:47 PM, James Radcliffe wrote: > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:42:39 -0400 > > From: peter king <peterispeter at comcast.net> > > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 thermostat cross reference? > > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > > Message-ID: <BE4CCE09-DDCE-4281-87B9-638A61620573 at comcast.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > > > Hi all, > > > > Does anyone have a modern day part number for a (1964) P5 > thermostat? > > I bought one 5 or 6 years ago, and now can't locate the paperwork. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Peter > > > >**************** > > Advance autoparts list Stant 13008, 13358, 45358, all 180 degrees. > > rockauto.com lists gates 33008S 180 degrees, gates 33006S 160 > degrees, and > STANT Part # 35356 (160 degrees). > > > Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. > Try it now._______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ peter king + company 21 drydock avenue boston, ma 02210 617-292-7877 www.king-co.com See NEW updates for 2009: http://king-co.com/newwork/newwork.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090622/ba0a83cd/attachment-0001.html> From gharrower200 at gmail.com Mon Jun 22 13:06:41 2009 From: gharrower200 at gmail.com (Gordon Harrower) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:06:41 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses Message-ID: <a8e2d8ce0906221006q28842b3cq88d4b14f127d5518@mail.gmail.com> Any suggestions as to where to get 35-amp fuses for the P5? There's also an in-line 3-amp fuse, not listed in the parts manual, although there's no after-market equipment on the car. I went to all the local car places (Advance, Autozone, Napa, Bap/Geon), but smoke came out of their ears when I showed them the fuses. Gordon. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090622/9fb7b41f/attachment.html> From flemna at yahoo.ca Mon Jun 22 13:24:11 2009 From: flemna at yahoo.ca (Fred Lemna) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses In-Reply-To: <a8e2d8ce0906221006q28842b3cq88d4b14f127d5518@mail.gmail.com> References: <a8e2d8ce0906221006q28842b3cq88d4b14f127d5518@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <799145.37611.qm@web38508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I believe that 35-amp fuse must be a Lucas which is different in both size and resistance than comparable NA domestic specs. You need to contact someone who would specialize in those fuses or find a "conversion" chart which provides equivalent fuse cross-references. I have a Mark III P5 and have run into the same issue. As to your in-line fuse...is it by chance connected with the dashboard clock? Adding an in-line fuse to the clock adds an extra margin of safety as the internal contacts fusing could constitute a fire hazard which an inline fuse would obviate. Thank goodness your well-intentioned suppliers suffer from "smoking ears" and you don't. ________________________________ From: Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com> To: Rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:06:41 AM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses Any suggestions as to where to get 35-amp fuses for the P5? There's also an in-line 3-amp fuse, not listed in the parts manual, although there's no after-market equipment on the car. I went to all the local car places (Advance, Autozone, Napa, Bap/Geon), but smoke came out of their ears when I showed them the fuses. Gordon. __________________________________________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090622/d89380f3/attachment.html> From fjcumberland at yahoo.com Mon Jun 22 13:27:40 2009 From: fjcumberland at yahoo.com (Jim Cumberland) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:27:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses In-Reply-To: <799145.37611.qm@web38508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <a8e2d8ce0906221006q28842b3cq88d4b14f127d5518@mail.gmail.com> <799145.37611.qm@web38508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <494647.66910.qm@web34207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Are you looking for the cylindrical glass fuses? I think I have some that are 35 amps. Regards, Jim ________________________________ From: Fred Lemna <flemna at yahoo.ca> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 1:24:11 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses I believe that 35-amp fuse must be a Lucas which is different in both size and resistance than comparable NA domestic specs. You need to contact someone who would specialize in those fuses or find a "conversion" chart which provides equivalent fuse cross-references. I have a Mark III P5 and have run into the same issue. As to your in-line fuse...is it by chance connected with the dashboard clock? Adding an in-line fuse to the clock adds an extra margin of safety as the internal contacts fusing could constitute a fire hazard which an inline fuse would obviate. Thank goodness your well-intentioned suppliers suffer from "smoking ears" and you don't. ________________________________ From: Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com> To: Rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:06:41 AM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses Any suggestions as to where to get 35-amp fuses for the P5? There's also an in-line 3-amp fuse, not listed in the parts manual, although there's no after-market equipment on the car. I went to all the local car places (Advance, Autozone, Napa, Bap/Geon), but smoke came out of their ears when I showed them the fuses. Gordon. ________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090622/ccc47c10/attachment.html> From danenberg123 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 22 13:30:34 2009 From: danenberg123 at yahoo.com (Bo Danenberger) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:30:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses Message-ID: <957819.28389.qm@web33505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Gordon..... I think I can help you out.? How many do you need??? Other sizes needed also? Bo Danenberger, Danvers, Illinois --- On Mon, 6/22/09, Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com> wrote: From: Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses To: Rovernet at rovernet.ca Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 12:06 PM Any suggestions as to where to get 35-amp fuses for the P5?? There's also an in-line 3-amp fuse, not listed in the parts manual, although there's no after-market equipment on the car.? 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090622/6cae66f2/attachment.html> From gbbourque at hotmail.com Mon Jun 22 13:31:06 2009 From: gbbourque at hotmail.com (garrett bourque) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:31:06 +0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses In-Reply-To: <799145.37611.qm@web38508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <a8e2d8ce0906221006q28842b3cq88d4b14f127d5518@mail.gmail.com> <799145.37611.qm@web38508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <SNT108-W37B1790AF1956397DC99B8A1390@phx.gbl> Hello, If anybody needs basic old english car parts and supplies that might be universal to alot of english cars, try Mike Buonaducci at Bit of Britain in Vermont. Phone is 802 439 5815. He is in bussiness full time and has has an extensive stock of bulbs, fuses, belts as well as alot of New Old Stock Lucas and other brand parts available for sale for all makes of english cars. He buys old english parts stocks from parts stores and has been in bussiness for 30 years. Garrett Bourque Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:24:11 -0700 From: flemna at yahoo.ca To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses I believe that 35-amp fuse must be a Lucas which is different in both size and resistance than comparable NA domestic specs. You need to contact someone who would specialize in those fuses or find a "conversion" chart which provides equivalent fuse cross-references. I have a Mark III P5 and have run into the same issue. As to your in-line fuse...is it by chance connected with the dashboard clock? Adding an in-line fuse to the clock adds an extra margin of safety as the internal contacts fusing could constitute a fire hazard which an inline fuse would obviate. Thank goodness your well-intentioned suppliers suffer from "smoking ears" and you don't. From: Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com> To: Rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:06:41 AM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses Any suggestions as to where to get 35-amp fuses for the P5? There's also an in-line 3-amp fuse, not listed in the parts manual, although there's no after-market equipment on the car. I went to all the local car places (Advance, Autozone, Napa, Bap/Geon), but smoke came out of their ears when I showed them the fuses. Gordon. Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090622/fd01449e/attachment-0001.html> From rweasel at gmail.com Mon Jun 22 13:33:24 2009 From: rweasel at gmail.com (Reverend Weasel) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:33:24 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses In-Reply-To: <494647.66910.qm@web34207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <a8e2d8ce0906221006q28842b3cq88d4b14f127d5518@mail.gmail.com> <799145.37611.qm@web38508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <494647.66910.qm@web34207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <86b191ca0906221033w237c1a6ctc5506b77cb0d53a4@mail.gmail.com> I think the Lucas fuse ratings are momentary, the domestic ones continuous. I think 20 or 25 amp is the same as Lucas 35, but it's been a while since I dealt with these. 2009/6/22 Jim Cumberland <fjcumberland at yahoo.com> > Are you looking for the cylindrical glass fuses? I think I have some that > are 35 amps. > > Regards, > > Jim > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Fred Lemna <flemna at yahoo.ca> > *To:* The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > *Sent:* Monday, June 22, 2009 1:24:11 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses > > I believe that 35-amp fuse must be a Lucas which is different in both size > and resistance than comparable NA domestic specs. You need to contact > someone who would > specialize in those fuses or find a "conversion" chart which provides > equivalent fuse cross-references. I have a Mark III P5 and have run into > the same issue. As to your > in-line fuse...is it by chance connected with the dashboard clock? Adding > an in-line fuse to the clock adds an extra margin of safety as the internal > contacts fusing could > constitute a fire hazard which an inline fuse would obviate. Thank > goodness your well-intentioned suppliers suffer from "smoking ears" and you > don't. > ------------------------------ > *From:* Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com> > *To:* Rovernet at rovernet.ca > *Sent:* Monday, June 22, 2009 10:06:41 AM > *Subject:* [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses > > Any suggestions as to where to get 35-amp fuses for the P5? There's also > an in-line 3-amp fuse, not listed in the parts manual, although there's no > after-market equipment on the car. I went to all the local car places > (Advance, Autozone, Napa, Bap/Geon), but smoke came out of their ears when I > showed them the fuses. > > Gordon. > > ------------------------------ > Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the > boot with the *All-new Yahoo! 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090622/c39d63fc/attachment.html> From gharrower200 at gmail.com Mon Jun 22 18:38:49 2009 From: gharrower200 at gmail.com (Gordon Harrower) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:38:49 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses In-Reply-To: <957819.28389.qm@web33505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <957819.28389.qm@web33505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <a8e2d8ce0906221538x6e1ea480pf891f502fa61030a@mail.gmail.com> Gents, Thanks to all who responded. I've managed to order some 35-Amp fuses (old Land Rovers use them too), but am still mystified by the little 3-amp fuse. I'll try the guy you mentioned, Garrett, and report back. Best, Gordon. On 6/22/09, Bo Danenberger <danenberg123 at yahoo.com> wrote: > > Hi Gordon..... > I think I can help you out. How many do you need? Other sizes needed > also? > Bo Danenberger, Danvers, Illinois > > --- On *Mon, 6/22/09, Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com>* wrote: > > > From: Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses > To: Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 12:06 PM > > Any suggestions as to where to get 35-amp fuses for the P5? There's also > an in-line 3-amp fuse, not listed in the parts manual, although there's no > after-market equipment on the car. I went to all the local car places > (Advance, Autozone, Napa, Bap/Geon), but smoke came out of their ears when I > showed them the fuses. > > Gordon. > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca<http://us.mc335.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090622/6b67a676/attachment.html> From gharrower200 at gmail.com Mon Jun 22 18:55:54 2009 From: gharrower200 at gmail.com (Gordon Harrower) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:55:54 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses In-Reply-To: <a8e2d8ce0906221538x6e1ea480pf891f502fa61030a@mail.gmail.com> References: <957819.28389.qm@web33505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <a8e2d8ce0906221538x6e1ea480pf891f502fa61030a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <a8e2d8ce0906221555u767ef038oe7c694d602f84e1a@mail.gmail.com> I hope it's appropriate to post a link here (and I apologize if it isn't), but I found this in my searches. The implication is that, as with other things, British and American measures differ in fuses. Any thoughts? Gordon. http://www.drooartz.com/index.php?page=29 On 6/22/09, Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com> wrote: > > Gents, > > Thanks to all who responded. I've managed to order some 35-Amp fuses (old > Land Rovers use them too), but am still mystified by the little 3-amp fuse. > I'll try the guy you mentioned, Garrett, and report back. > > Best, Gordon. > > > On 6/22/09, Bo Danenberger <danenberg123 at yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Gordon..... >> I think I can help you out. How many do you need? Other sizes needed >> also? >> Bo Danenberger, Danvers, Illinois >> >> --- On *Mon, 6/22/09, Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com>* wrote: >> >> >> From: Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com> >> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses >> To: Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 12:06 PM >> >> Any suggestions as to where to get 35-amp fuses for the P5? There's >> also an in-line 3-amp fuse, not listed in the parts manual, although there's >> no after-market equipment on the car. I went to all the local car places >> (Advance, Autozone, Napa, Bap/Geon), but smoke came out of their ears when I >> showed them the fuses. >> >> Gordon. >> >> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca<http://us.mc335.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Rovernet at rovernet.ca> >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090622/e08c7ee7/attachment.html> From vern at inkspotco.com Mon Jun 22 19:10:52 2009 From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:10:52 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses In-Reply-To: <a8e2d8ce0906221555u767ef038oe7c694d602f84e1a@mail.gmail.com> References: <957819.28389.qm@web33505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <a8e2d8ce0906221538x6e1ea480pf891f502fa61030a@mail.gmail.com> <a8e2d8ce0906221555u767ef038oe7c694d602f84e1a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <D00048F3-EF7B-4820-B469-FC31044E04D5@inkspotco.com> Time to weight in on this. You can buy proper fuses here http://www.britishwiring.com/ You can use UL (North American) AGC fuses, if you properly chose the correct capacity (roughly half the number on the Lucas fuse) and you can read all about that here. http://www.triumphspitfire.com/Fuses.html Yours Vern On 22-Jun-09, at 3:55 PM, Gordon Harrower wrote: > I hope it's appropriate to post a link here (and I apologize if it > isn't), but I found this in my searches. The implication is that, > as with other things, British and American measures differ in > fuses. Any thoughts? > > Gordon. > > http://www.drooartz.com/index.php?page=29 > > > On 6/22/09, Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com> wrote: > Gents, > > Thanks to all who responded. I've managed to order some 35-Amp > fuses (old Land Rovers use them too), but am still mystified by the > little 3-amp fuse. I'll try the guy you mentioned, Garrett, and > report back. > > Best, Gordon. > > > On 6/22/09, Bo Danenberger <danenberg123 at yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi Gordon..... > I think I can help you out. How many do you need? Other sizes > needed also? > Bo Danenberger, Danvers, Illinois > > --- On Mon, 6/22/09, Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com> wrote: > > From: Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses > To: Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 12:06 PM > > Any suggestions as to where to get 35-amp fuses for the P5? There's > also an in-line 3-amp fuse, not listed in the parts manual, although > there's no after-market equipment on the car. I went to all the > local car places (Advance, Autozone, Napa, Bap/Geon), but smoke came > out of their ears when I showed them the fuses. > > Gordon. > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090622/983b8749/attachment-0001.html> From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Mon Jun 22 21:51:15 2009 From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:51:15 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 fuses and P6 radiator fans. In-Reply-To: <mailman.25.1245712274.13910.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> References: <mailman.25.1245712274.13910.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <SNT105-W47B52612B6BD91B5FC5BC68E360@phx.gbl> http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/category/245100/Fuses/AGC-3AG-/1.html I went down in current when my Rover P6 blew 35 amp fuse years ago to a 30 amp fuse, as that is what they had at the service station in outback Manjimup Western Australia. Perhaps I should have gone down to 20 or 15 amps instead given the different current rating systems. It was just a standard 3AG or AGC fuse. They are about the size of a spent 22 magnum cartridge. A spent 22 magnum cartridge is the old bush mechanics trick for when no fuse is available, and the car will not run without it! Could someone who has access to a Rover 2000 with the horizontal flow radiator measure the width and height for me please. I am over the other side of the world from my Rover with this radiator, and I am researching buying some electric radiator fans for it. Does anyone here, particularly any Australians who may read this have any experience buying and installing these fans. A company called Davies Craig sells them in Australia, and can probably help me if I have this information. Kenlowe in the UK do them, but they are not represented in Australia, and shipping would be expensive. I wish to install an electric fan to help keep it cool when driving around in the city during a stinking hot Adelaide summers day, which means 100 - 110 degree heat. The fan will need to go behind the radiator as I have a seperate transmission cooler in the front. The fan on the waterpump does not really provide sufficent airflow when idling for extended periods during the heat. I believe that there is a fan available from NAPA which fits, as I saw one in some photos of a Rover 2000 that was for sale on ebay about 6 years ago, and I sent the guy an email and asked him about it. If anyone has that car on this list then perhaps they can help me also. I think it was for sale from the Carolinas or maybe Geogia. James. > From: rovernet-request at rovernet.ca > Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 12, Issue 40 > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:11:14 -0400 > > Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to > rovernet at rovernet.ca > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > rovernet-request at rovernet.ca > > You can reach the person managing the list at > rovernet-owner at rovernet.ca > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..." > > > Please edit your digest reply by changing the subject line to the topic to which you are referring. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: P5 Fuses (Reverend Weasel) > 2. Re: P5 Fuses (Gordon Harrower) > 3. Re: P5 Fuses (Gordon Harrower) > 4. Re: P5 Fuses (Vern Klukas) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:33:24 -0400 > From: Reverend Weasel <rweasel at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: > <86b191ca0906221033w237c1a6ctc5506b77cb0d53a4 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I think the Lucas fuse ratings are momentary, the domestic ones continuous. > I think 20 or 25 amp is the same as Lucas 35, but it's been a while since I > dealt with these. > > 2009/6/22 Jim Cumberland <fjcumberland at yahoo.com> > > > Are you looking for the cylindrical glass fuses? I think I have some that > > are 35 amps. > > > > Regards, > > > > Jim > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Fred Lemna <flemna at yahoo.ca> > > *To:* The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > > *Sent:* Monday, June 22, 2009 1:24:11 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses > > > > I believe that 35-amp fuse must be a Lucas which is different in both size > > and resistance than comparable NA domestic specs. You need to contact > > someone who would > > specialize in those fuses or find a "conversion" chart which provides > > equivalent fuse cross-references. I have a Mark III P5 and have run into > > the same issue. As to your > > in-line fuse...is it by chance connected with the dashboard clock? Adding > > an in-line fuse to the clock adds an extra margin of safety as the internal > > contacts fusing could > > constitute a fire hazard which an inline fuse would obviate. Thank > > goodness your well-intentioned suppliers suffer from "smoking ears" and you > > don't. > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com> > > *To:* Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > *Sent:* Monday, June 22, 2009 10:06:41 AM > > *Subject:* [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses > > > > Any suggestions as to where to get 35-amp fuses for the P5? There's also > > an in-line 3-amp fuse, not listed in the parts manual, although there's no > > after-market equipment on the car. I went to all the local car places > > (Advance, Autozone, Napa, Bap/Geon), but smoke came out of their ears when I > > showed them the fuses. > > > > Gordon. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the > > boot with the *All-new Yahoo! Mail *<http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/newmail/overview2/> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > > -- > Casta est quam nemo rogavit. > - Ovid > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090622/c39d63fc/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:38:49 -0400 > From: Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: > <a8e2d8ce0906221538x6e1ea480pf891f502fa61030a at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Gents, > > Thanks to all who responded. I've managed to order some 35-Amp fuses (old > Land Rovers use them too), but am still mystified by the little 3-amp fuse. > I'll try the guy you mentioned, Garrett, and report back. > > Best, Gordon. > > > On 6/22/09, Bo Danenberger <danenberg123 at yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Gordon..... > > I think I can help you out. How many do you need? Other sizes needed > > also? > > Bo Danenberger, Danvers, Illinois > > > > --- On *Mon, 6/22/09, Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com>* wrote: > > > > > > From: Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com> > > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses > > To: Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 12:06 PM > > > > Any suggestions as to where to get 35-amp fuses for the P5? There's also > > an in-line 3-amp fuse, not listed in the parts manual, although there's no > > after-market equipment on the car. I went to all the local car places > > (Advance, Autozone, Napa, Bap/Geon), but smoke came out of their ears when I > > showed them the fuses. > > > > Gordon. > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca<http://us.mc335.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Rovernet at rovernet.ca> > > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090622/6b67a676/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:55:54 -0400 > From: Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: > <a8e2d8ce0906221555u767ef038oe7c694d602f84e1a at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I hope it's appropriate to post a link here (and I apologize if it isn't), > but I found this in my searches. The implication is that, as with other > things, British and American measures differ in fuses. Any thoughts? > > Gordon. > > http://www.drooartz.com/index.php?page=29 > > > On 6/22/09, Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Gents, > > > > Thanks to all who responded. I've managed to order some 35-Amp fuses (old > > Land Rovers use them too), but am still mystified by the little 3-amp fuse. > > I'll try the guy you mentioned, Garrett, and report back. > > > > Best, Gordon. > > > > > > On 6/22/09, Bo Danenberger <danenberg123 at yahoo.com> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Gordon..... > >> I think I can help you out. How many do you need? Other sizes needed > >> also? > >> Bo Danenberger, Danvers, Illinois > >> > >> --- On *Mon, 6/22/09, Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com>* wrote: > >> > >> > >> From: Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com> > >> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses > >> To: Rovernet at rovernet.ca > >> Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 12:06 PM > >> > >> Any suggestions as to where to get 35-amp fuses for the P5? There's > >> also an in-line 3-amp fuse, not listed in the parts manual, although there's > >> no after-market equipment on the car. I went to all the local car places > >> (Advance, Autozone, Napa, Bap/Geon), but smoke came out of their ears when I > >> showed them the fuses. > >> > >> Gordon. > >> > >> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Rovernet mailing list > >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca<http://us.mc335.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Rovernet at rovernet.ca> > >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: > >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Rovernet mailing list > >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca > >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: > >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > >> > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090622/e08c7ee7/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:10:52 -0700 > From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <D00048F3-EF7B-4820-B469-FC31044E04D5 at inkspotco.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; > DelSp="yes" > > Time to weight in on this. > > You can buy proper fuses here http://www.britishwiring.com/ > > You can use UL (North American) AGC fuses, if you properly chose the > correct capacity (roughly half the number on the Lucas fuse) and you > can read all about that here. > > http://www.triumphspitfire.com/Fuses.html > > Yours > Vern > > On 22-Jun-09, at 3:55 PM, Gordon Harrower wrote: > > > I hope it's appropriate to post a link here (and I apologize if it > > isn't), but I found this in my searches. The implication is that, > > as with other things, British and American measures differ in > > fuses. Any thoughts? > > > > Gordon. > > > > http://www.drooartz.com/index.php?page=29 > > > > > > On 6/22/09, Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com> wrote: > > Gents, > > > > Thanks to all who responded. I've managed to order some 35-Amp > > fuses (old Land Rovers use them too), but am still mystified by the > > little 3-amp fuse. I'll try the guy you mentioned, Garrett, and > > report back. > > > > Best, Gordon. > > > > > > On 6/22/09, Bo Danenberger <danenberg123 at yahoo.com> wrote: > > Hi Gordon..... > > I think I can help you out. How many do you need? Other sizes > > needed also? > > Bo Danenberger, Danvers, Illinois > > > > --- On Mon, 6/22/09, Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > From: Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com> > > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses > > To: Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 12:06 PM > > > > Any suggestions as to where to get 35-amp fuses for the P5? There's > > also an in-line 3-amp fuse, not listed in the parts manual, although > > there's no after-market equipment on the car. I went to all the > > local car places (Advance, Autozone, Napa, Bap/Geon), but smoke came > > out of their ears when I showed them the fuses. > > > > Gordon. > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > > mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > > mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > > mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090622/983b8749/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > End of Rovernet Digest, Vol 12, Issue 40 > **************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090622/c62afa70/attachment-0001.html> From vern at inkspotco.com Tue Jun 23 00:07:02 2009 From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:07:02 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 fuses and P6 radiator fans. In-Reply-To: <SNT105-W47B52612B6BD91B5FC5BC68E360@phx.gbl> References: <mailman.25.1245712274.13910.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <SNT105-W47B52612B6BD91B5FC5BC68E360@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <4EE8428D-B676-4ECF-899C-379034ADB685@inkspotco.com> James, is your current fan four bladed? If so there is a six bladed fan available that will help, though probably not solve your cooling hassles. Yours Vern On 22-Jun-09, at 6:51 PM, James Radcliffe wrote: > http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/category/245100/Fuses/AGC-3AG-/1.html > > I went down in current when my Rover P6 blew 35 amp fuse years ago > to a 30 amp fuse, as that is what they had at the service station in > outback Manjimup Western Australia. Perhaps I should have gone down > to 20 or 15 amps instead given the different current rating systems. > It was just a standard 3AG or AGC fuse. They are about the size of a > spent 22 magnum cartridge. A spent 22 magnum cartridge is the old > bush mechanics trick for when no fuse is available, and the car will > not run without it! > > Could someone who has access to a Rover 2000 with the horizontal > flow radiator measure the width and height for me please. I am over > the other side of the world from my Rover with this radiator, and I > am researching buying some electric radiator fans for it. Does > anyone here, particularly any Australians who may read this have any > experience buying and installing these fans. A company called Davies > Craig sells them in Australia, and can probably help me if I have > this information. Kenlowe in the UK do them, but they are not > represented in Australia, and shipping would be expensive. I wish to > install an electric fan to help keep it cool when driving around in > the city during a stinking hot Adelaide summers day, which means 100 > - 110 degree heat. The fan will need to go behind the radiator as I > have a seperate transmission cooler in the front. The fan on the > waterpump does not really provide sufficent airflow when idling for > extended periods during the heat. I believe that there is a fan > available from NAPA which fits, as I saw one in some photos of a > Rover 2000 that was for sale on ebay about 6 years ago, and I sent > the guy an email and asked him about it. If anyone has that car on > this list then perhaps they can help me also. I think it was for > sale from the Carolinas or maybe Geogia. > > James. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090622/b02f9776/attachment.html> From vmitps at netspace.net.au Tue Jun 23 01:50:08 2009 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (vmitps at netspace.net.au) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:50:08 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 fuses and P6 radiator fans. In-Reply-To: <SNT105-W47B52612B6BD91B5FC5BC68E360@phx.gbl> References: <mailman.25.1245712274.13910.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <SNT105-W47B52612B6BD91B5FC5BC68E360@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <1245736208.4a406d10f02f0@webmail.netspace.net.au> Quoting James Radcliffe <j_radcliffe at hotmail.com>: > > http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/category/245100/Fuses/AGC-3AG-/1.html > > I went down in current when my Rover P6 blew 35 amp fuse years ago to a 30 > amp fuse, as that is what they had at the service station in outback Manjimup > Western Australia. Perhaps I should have gone down to 20 or 15 amps instead > given the different current rating systems. It was just a standard 3AG or AGC > fuse. They are about the size of a spent 22 magnum cartridge. A spent 22 > magnum cartridge is the old bush mechanics trick for when no fuse is > available, and the car will not run without it! > > Could someone who has access to a Rover 2000 with the horizontal flow > radiator measure the width and height for me please. I am over the other side > of the world from my Rover with this radiator, and I am researching buying > some electric radiator fans for it. Does anyone here, particularly any > Australians who may read this have any experience buying and installing these > fans. A company called Davies Craig sells them in Australia, and can probably > help me if I have this information. Kenlowe in the UK do them, but they are > not represented in Australia, and shipping would be expensive. I wish to > install an electric fan to help keep it cool when driving around in the city > during a stinking hot Adelaide summers day, which means 100 - 110 degree > heat. The fan will need to go behind the radiator as I have a seperate > transmission cooler in the front. The fan on the waterpump does not really > provide sufficent airflow when idling for extended periods during the heat. > I believe that there is a fan available from NAPA which fits, as I saw one in > some photos of a Rover 2000 that was for sale on ebay about 6 years ago, and > I sent the guy an email and asked him about it. If anyone has that car on > this list then perhaps they can help me also. I think it was for sale from > the Carolinas or maybe Geogia. > > James. > A 6 blade fan moves heaps of air - what do you have? English cars had 4 blade. I removed the mech fan from my SC and put a 5A electric on, it works here but would be inadequate for Adelaide. At 36C a 4 blade reaches its limit (I have one on the TC). I'd go for something around 10A, and Supercheap have them for a third of the price of Davies Craig. PVS ------------------------------------------------------------ This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com Tue Jun 23 02:18:56 2009 From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:18:56 +0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 fuses and P6 radiator fans. In-Reply-To: <1245736208.4a406d10f02f0@webmail.netspace.net.au> References: <mailman.25.1245712274.13910.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <SNT105-W47B52612B6BD91B5FC5BC68E360@phx.gbl> <1245736208.4a406d10f02f0@webmail.netspace.net.au> Message-ID: <BAY120-W17E8F117A583C4D0169020B8360@phx.gbl> A second hand fan off [e.g] a Toyota or Mitsubishi from a scrappie will work just fine and cost only a few dollars. > Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:50:08 +1000 > From: vmitps at netspace.net.au > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 fuses and P6 radiator fans. > > Quoting James Radcliffe <j_radcliffe at hotmail.com>: > > > > > http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/category/245100/Fuses/AGC-3AG-/1.html > > > > I went down in current when my Rover P6 blew 35 amp fuse years ago to a 30 > > amp fuse, as that is what they had at the service station in outback Manjimup > > Western Australia. Perhaps I should have gone down to 20 or 15 amps instead > > given the different current rating systems. It was just a standard 3AG or AGC > > fuse. They are about the size of a spent 22 magnum cartridge. A spent 22 > > magnum cartridge is the old bush mechanics trick for when no fuse is > > available, and the car will not run without it! > > > > Could someone who has access to a Rover 2000 with the horizontal flow > > radiator measure the width and height for me please. I am over the other side > > of the world from my Rover with this radiator, and I am researching buying > > some electric radiator fans for it. Does anyone here, particularly any > > Australians who may read this have any experience buying and installing these > > fans. A company called Davies Craig sells them in Australia, and can probably > > help me if I have this information. Kenlowe in the UK do them, but they are > > not represented in Australia, and shipping would be expensive. I wish to > > install an electric fan to help keep it cool when driving around in the city > > during a stinking hot Adelaide summers day, which means 100 - 110 degree > > heat. The fan will need to go behind the radiator as I have a seperate > > transmission cooler in the front. The fan on the waterpump does not really > > provide sufficent airflow when idling for extended periods during the heat. > > I believe that there is a fan available from NAPA which fits, as I saw one in > > some photos of a Rover 2000 that was for sale on ebay about 6 years ago, and > > I sent the guy an email and asked him about it. If anyone has that car on > > this list then perhaps they can help me also. I think it was for sale from > > the Carolinas or maybe Geogia. > > > > James. > > > > A 6 blade fan moves heaps of air - what do you have? > English cars had 4 blade. > I removed the mech fan from my SC and put a 5A electric on, it works here but > would be inadequate for Adelaide. At 36C a 4 blade reaches its limit (I have > one on the TC). > I'd go for something around 10A, and Supercheap have them for a third of the > price of Davies Craig. > > PVS > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _________________________________________________________________ View photos of singles in your area Click Here http://dating.ninemsn.com.au/search/search.aspx?exec=go&tp=q&gc=2&tr=1&lage=18&uage=55&cl=14&sl=0&dist=50&po=1&do=2&trackingid=1046138&r2s=1&_t=773166090&_r=WLM_EndText -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090623/4f5b0c77/attachment.html> From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Tue Jun 23 12:28:51 2009 From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:28:51 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 fuses and P6 radiator fans In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1245772804.14483.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> References: <mailman.3.1245772804.14483.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <SNT105-W2596B04C9CB4C91E403CD08E360@phx.gbl> It is a six blade fan. For those reading in Adelaide it tends to get warm going up Flagstaff Hill road on hot days. The proceeding intersections along Marion road always seem to be synchronised so you have to stop at them, some even have read light cameras. Upon going up the hill the standard solution tends to be to drive gently along Happy Valley drive, so things cool down a bit, then park under a tree, and stop at the Hub tavern for a couple of beers, which allows both me and the car to cool off, before going further up the hill to Chandlers Hill, Clarendon. Its all pretty much down hill from there, and no traffic lights. There is a Supercheap auto parts at the bottom of Flagstaff Hill road, so I might stop there the next time I am in Adelaide. James. > > James, is your current fan four bladed? If so there is a six bladed > fan available that will help, though probably not solve your cooling > hassles. > > Yours > Vern > On 22-Jun-09, at 6:51 PM, James Radcliffe wrote: > > > http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/category/245100/Fuses/AGC-3AG-/1.html > > > > I went down in current when my Rover P6 blew 35 amp fuse years ago > > to a 30 amp fuse, as that is what they had at the service station in > > outback Manjimup Western Australia. Perhaps I should have gone down > > to 20 or 15 amps instead given the different current rating systems. > > It was just a standard 3AG or AGC fuse. They are about the size of a > > spent 22 magnum cartridge. A spent 22 magnum cartridge is the old > > bush mechanics trick for when no fuse is available, and the car will > > not run without it! > > > > Could someone who has access to a Rover 2000 with the horizontal > > flow radiator measure the width and height for me please. I am over > > the other side of the world from my Rover with this radiator, and I > > am researching buying some electric radiator fans for it. Does > > anyone here, particularly any Australians who may read this have any > > experience buying and installing these fans. A company called Davies > > Craig sells them in Australia, and can probably help me if I have > > this information. Kenlowe in the UK do them, but they are not > > represented in Australia, and shipping would be expensive. I wish to > > install an electric fan to help keep it cool when driving around in > > the city during a stinking hot Adelaide summers day, which means 100 > > - 110 degree heat. The fan will need to go behind the radiator as I > > have a seperate transmission cooler in the front. The fan on the > > waterpump does not really provide sufficent airflow when idling for > > extended periods during the heat. I believe that there is a fan > > available from NAPA which fits, as I saw one in some photos of a > > Rover 2000 that was for sale on ebay about 6 years ago, and I sent > > the guy an email and asked him about it. If anyone has that car on > > this list then perhaps they can help me also. I think it was for > > sale from the Carolinas or maybe Geogia. > > > > James. > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090622/b02f9776/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:50:08 +1000 > From: vmitps at netspace.net.au > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 fuses and P6 radiator fans. > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <1245736208.4a406d10f02f0 at webmail.netspace.net.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Quoting James Radcliffe <j_radcliffe at hotmail.com>: > > > > > http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/category/245100/Fuses/AGC-3AG-/1.html > > > > I went down in current when my Rover P6 blew 35 amp fuse years ago to a 30 > > amp fuse, as that is what they had at the service station in outback Manjimup > > Western Australia. Perhaps I should have gone down to 20 or 15 amps instead > > given the different current rating systems. It was just a standard 3AG or AGC > > fuse. They are about the size of a spent 22 magnum cartridge. A spent 22 > > magnum cartridge is the old bush mechanics trick for when no fuse is > > available, and the car will not run without it! > > > > Could someone who has access to a Rover 2000 with the horizontal flow > > radiator measure the width and height for me please. I am over the other side > > of the world from my Rover with this radiator, and I am researching buying > > some electric radiator fans for it. Does anyone here, particularly any > > Australians who may read this have any experience buying and installing these > > fans. A company called Davies Craig sells them in Australia, and can probably > > help me if I have this information. Kenlowe in the UK do them, but they are > > not represented in Australia, and shipping would be expensive. I wish to > > install an electric fan to help keep it cool when driving around in the city > > during a stinking hot Adelaide summers day, which means 100 - 110 degree > > heat. The fan will need to go behind the radiator as I have a seperate > > transmission cooler in the front. The fan on the waterpump does not really > > provide sufficent airflow when idling for extended periods during the heat. > > I believe that there is a fan available from NAPA which fits, as I saw one in > > some photos of a Rover 2000 that was for sale on ebay about 6 years ago, and > > I sent the guy an email and asked him about it. If anyone has that car on > > this list then perhaps they can help me also. I think it was for sale from > > the Carolinas or maybe Geogia. > > > > James. > > > > A 6 blade fan moves heaps of air - what do you have? > English cars had 4 blade. > I removed the mech fan from my SC and put a 5A electric on, it works here but > would be inadequate for Adelaide. At 36C a 4 blade reaches its limit (I have > one on the TC). > I'd go for something around 10A, and Supercheap have them for a third of the > price of Davies Craig. > > PVS > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:18:56 +0000 > From: Richard Sharpe <trowzerkoff at hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 fuses and P6 radiator fans. > To: rover net <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <BAY120-W17E8F117A583C4D0169020B8360 at phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > A second hand fan off [e.g] a Toyota or Mitsubishi from a scrappie will work just fine and cost only a few dollars. > > > Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:50:08 +1000 > > From: vmitps at netspace.net.au > > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 fuses and P6 radiator fans. > > > > Quoting James Radcliffe <j_radcliffe at hotmail.com>: > > > > > > > > http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/category/245100/Fuses/AGC-3AG-/1.html > > > > > > I went down in current when my Rover P6 blew 35 amp fuse years ago to a 30 > > > amp fuse, as that is what they had at the service station in outback Manjimup > > > Western Australia. Perhaps I should have gone down to 20 or 15 amps instead > > > given the different current rating systems. It was just a standard 3AG or AGC > > > fuse. They are about the size of a spent 22 magnum cartridge. A spent 22 > > > magnum cartridge is the old bush mechanics trick for when no fuse is > > > available, and the car will not run without it! > > > > > > Could someone who has access to a Rover 2000 with the horizontal flow > > > radiator measure the width and height for me please. I am over the other side > > > of the world from my Rover with this radiator, and I am researching buying > > > some electric radiator fans for it. Does anyone here, particularly any > > > Australians who may read this have any experience buying and installing these > > > fans. A company called Davies Craig sells them in Australia, and can probably > > > help me if I have this information. Kenlowe in the UK do them, but they are > > > not represented in Australia, and shipping would be expensive. I wish to > > > install an electric fan to help keep it cool when driving around in the city > > > during a stinking hot Adelaide summers day, which means 100 - 110 degree > > > heat. The fan will need to go behind the radiator as I have a seperate > > > transmission cooler in the front. The fan on the waterpump does not really > > > provide sufficent airflow when idling for extended periods during the heat. > > > I believe that there is a fan available from NAPA which fits, as I saw one in > > > some photos of a Rover 2000 that was for sale on ebay about 6 years ago, and > > > I sent the guy an email and asked him about it. If anyone has that car on > > > this list then perhaps they can help me also. I think it was for sale from > > > the Carolinas or maybe Geogia. > > > > > > James. > > > > > > > A 6 blade fan moves heaps of air - what do you have? > > English cars had 4 blade. > > I removed the mech fan from my SC and put a 5A electric on, it works here but > > would be inadequate for Adelaide. At 36C a 4 blade reaches its limit (I have > > one on the TC). > > I'd go for something around 10A, and Supercheap have them for a third of the > > price of Davies Craig. > > > > PVS _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090623/03369a2e/attachment.html> From gwarrensmith at zoominternet.net Tue Jun 23 14:09:04 2009 From: gwarrensmith at zoominternet.net (G. Warren Smith) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:09:04 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front Flasher Lens In-Reply-To: <mailman.18.1245684931.13910.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet. ca> References: <mailman.18.1245684931.13910.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <DA.89.11978.54A114A4@cm-1.zoominternet.net> Thanks, Kent and all who offered to help. You are right; the lens I need is the one located below the bumper. There isn't enough left of the original lens to see a number, but assuming it is the same as on the left side, that amber lens is marked "SAE DP 69 L839. It has a rectangular footprint and an angular face. My parts book lists it as (probably) #606648. Kent, I'm not in a great rush and a new one would be great, if available. Let me know the particulars. Best regards to all, Warren ---------- > >From: "G. Warren Smith" <gwarrensmith at zoominternet.net> >Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:33:26 -0400 >Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front Flasher Lens > >Hi All, > >Before I take my 1970 3500S in for inspection, I need to find a good >used amber lens for my right front flasher lamp. If anyone has a >spare available that I could acquire, I'd appreciate hearing from you. > >Sorry to have missed the RoveAmerica event, but too many other >responsibilities here to get away. The photos are great and I hope >to join the group next year! Thanks, > >Warren > >G. Warren Smith >101 Ayyar Court >Slippery Rock, PA 16057 >From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> >Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:20:16 -0500 >Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front Flasher Lens > > >Hi Warren, >I probably have some new ones, but it will be the middle of the week >before I can go check. Can you give me the number off the lens? > >Roverly, >Kent K. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090623/be03567d/attachment-0001.html> From kkinard at att.net Tue Jun 23 14:26:21 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:26:21 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front Flasher Lens In-Reply-To: <DA.89.11978.54A114A4@cm-1.zoominternet.net> References: <mailman.18.1245684931.13910.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <DA.89.11978.54A114A4@cm-1.zoominternet.net> Message-ID: <4A411E4D.2050607@att.net> Hi Warren, It will be Saturday at the soonest before I can look. There are two types-a one piece and a two piece. I assume yours is one piece but will check the numbers. Roverly, Kent K. G. Warren Smith wrote: > Thanks, Kent and all who offered to help. You are right; the lens I > need is the one located _below_ the bumper. There isn't enough left of > the original lens to see a number, but assuming it is the same as on > the left side, that amber lens is marked "SAE DP 69 L839. It has a > rectangular footprint and an angular face. My parts book lists it as > (probably) #606648. > > Kent, I'm not in a great rush and a new one would be great, if > available. Let me know the particulars. Best regards to all, > > Warren > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> From: "G. Warren Smith" <gwarrensmith at zoominternet.net> >> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:33:26 -0400 >> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front Flasher Lens >> >> Hi All, >> >> Before I take my 1970 3500S in for inspection, I need to find a good >> used _amber lens for my right front flasher lamp_. If anyone has a >> spare available that I could acquire, I'd appreciate hearing from you. >> >> Sorry to have missed the RoveAmerica event, but too many other >> responsibilities here to get away. The photos are great and I hope >> to join the group next year! Thanks, >> >> Warren >> >> G. Warren Smith >> 101 Ayyar Court >> Slippery Rock, PA 16057 > > > >> From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> >> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:20:16 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front Flasher Lens >> >> >> Hi Warren, >> I probably have some new ones, but it will be the middle of the week >> before I can go check. Can you give me the number off the lens? >> >> Roverly, >> Kent K. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Jun 23 17:14:08 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:14:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses Message-ID: <120363.92488.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> When I worked in the marine electronics business (UK; radar, depth sounders, etc.), we used glass fuses where if the current exceeded that stamped on the fuse, the link would melt and the current would stop. ? We had another type of fuse.? We called it "Slow blow".? Although it was the same shape, they used a white ceramic material instead of glass.? Inside, there appeared to be a different structure.? The idea was that if the current exceeded that stamped upon the white body for a length of time - then the fuse would "blow".? For example, the radar scanner motor had a 7 amp slow blow fuse. The start-up of the scanner may be impeded by strong wind, rain, or snow so it was fused accordingly.? If, however, a crewman let a flag halyard get in the way of a rotating scanner, the fuse would blow. ? It seems problematic for me that a glass fuse produced by another company would have a rating number stamped upon it such that the number didn't mean what it said.? Expensive electronic equipment would be at risk,.......... it seems to me.? Most of our fuses inside the boat or ship connected with the rest of the electronics would be glass. ? Eric Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ Webmaster of a variety of sites from: http://www.websrus.ca --- On Mon, 6/22/09, Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com> wrote: From: Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Received: Monday, June 22, 2009, 3:55 PM I hope it's appropriate to post a link here (and I apologize if it isn't), but I found this in my searches.? The implication is that, as with other things, British and American measures differ in fuses.? Any thoughts? ? Gordon. ? http://www.drooartz.com/index.php?page=29 ? On 6/22/09, Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com> wrote: Gents, Thanks to all who responded.? I've managed to order some 35-Amp fuses (old Land Rovers use them too), but am still mystified by the little 3-amp fuse.? I'll try the guy you mentioned, Garrett, and report back. Best, Gordon. ? On 6/22/09, Bo Danenberger <danenberg123 at yahoo.com> wrote: Hi Gordon..... I think I can help you out.? How many do you need??? Other sizes needed also? Bo Danenberger, Danvers, Illinois --- On Mon, 6/22/09, Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com> wrote: From: Gordon Harrower <gharrower200 at gmail.com> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses To: Rovernet at rovernet.ca Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 12:06 PM Any suggestions as to where to get 35-amp fuses for the P5?? There's also an in-line 3-amp fuse, not listed in the parts manual, although there's no after-market equipment on the car.? I went to all the local car places (Advance, Autozone, Napa, Bap/Geon), but smoke came out of their ears when I showed them the fuses. ? Gordon. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090623/851db8ff/attachment.html> From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Tue Jun 23 17:26:25 2009 From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:26:25 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P5 fuses. In-Reply-To: <mailman.39.1245780543.13910.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> References: <mailman.39.1245780543.13910.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <SNT105-W45D06E82AE76C2D390942D8E360@phx.gbl> I found this good guide on Lucas fuses: http://www.tr6web.com/Documents/tr6/fusecolors.html The colour coding may be useful if you find some new old stock, or have some unknown parts. James. _________________________________________________________________ Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MLOGEN_Core_tagline_local_1x1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090623/16ee35a7/attachment.html> From vmitps at netspace.net.au Tue Jun 23 20:14:32 2009 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (vmitps at netspace.net.au) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:14:32 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 fuses and P6 radiator fans In-Reply-To: <SNT105-W2596B04C9CB4C91E403CD08E360@phx.gbl> References: <mailman.3.1245772804.14483.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <SNT105-W2596B04C9CB4C91E403CD08E360@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <1245802472.4a416fe8dd682@webmail.netspace.net.au> Quoting James Radcliffe <j_radcliffe at hotmail.com>: > > It is a six blade fan. For those reading in Adelaide it tends to get warm > going up Flagstaff Hill road on hot days. The proceeding intersections along > Marion road always seem to be synchronised so you have to stop at them, some > even have read light cameras. Upon going up the hill the standard solution > tends to be to drive gently along Happy Valley drive, so things cool down a > bit, then park under a tree, and stop at the Hub tavern for a couple of > beers, which allows both me and the car to cool off, before going further up > the hill to Chandlers Hill, Clarendon. Its all pretty much down hill from > there, and no traffic lights. There is a Supercheap auto parts at the bottom > of Flagstaff Hill road, so I might stop there the next time I am in Adelaide. > How hot is hot? My TC got to the top of the green border with a 4 blade fan at 40C on the Pacific Hwy, or 36C idling at lights. If it is happening at lower temps then I'd look at some radiator clean. PVS ------------------------------------------------------------ This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au From lewill at ctcweb.net Wed Jun 24 07:55:52 2009 From: lewill at ctcweb.net (larry) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:55:52 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S rear end References: <BAY119-W99EA5B5C34F9F6C5EF7C4DE410@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <002601c9f4c2$b9f16e90$4001a8c0@hewlett2n8fn74> Bill, I don't have an extra 3500 rear end around but I did make the conversion a couple of years ago on a TC. It made a snappy car into a less snappy car and one that doesn't go up the hills as well as the original ran. Ian Potts also made the conversion. You might get his opinion on the subject. At 60 mph the I did lose about 700rpm after to conversion. Now at 60 mph the rev counter reads 2300 rpm. Regards, Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Robertson To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 3:19 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S rear end Does anyone have a spare good rear end (differential) for the 3500S....hopefully near Ontario......I want to put one in my 2000TC to lower the final drive and make it more highway friendly Thanks Bill Robertson ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Attention all humans. We are your photos. 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090624/23afa7d2/attachment-0001.html> From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Wed Jun 24 08:52:10 2009 From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:22:10 +0930 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 fuses and P6 radiator fans In-Reply-To: <1245802472.4a416fe8dd682@webmail.netspace.net.au> References: <mailman.3.1245772804.14483.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <SNT105-W2596B04C9CB4C91E403CD08E360@phx.gbl> <1245802472.4a416fe8dd682@webmail.netspace.net.au> Message-ID: <4A42217A.1080901@ozemail.com.au> James Stopping at pubs is always a good idea <g>, however ..... I would suggest that if you are having trouble with the OEM system, the individual components should be looked at. * radiator tubes and fins. * radiator cap * thermostat opening too far/stuck open .... this restricts the ability of the coolant to effectively transmit it's heat load to the fins, since the coolant would be flowing too rapidly thru the core. IMHO, the thermostat should not get to the fully open (hit the wall) position under normal conditions, it should oscillate to a maximum opening point somewhere below. * coolant concentration (I run 33% Tectalloy Gold coolant to distilled water) * hoses for internal delamination/restriction HTH Cheers Dave South Oz James Radcliffe said ..... > > It is a six blade fan. For those reading in Adelaide it tends to get warm > going up Flagstaff Hill road on hot days. The proceeding intersections along > Marion road always seem to be synchronised so you have to stop at them, some > even have read light cameras. Upon going up the hill the standard solution > tends to be to drive gently along Happy Valley drive, so things cool down a > bit, then park under a tree, and stop at the Hub tavern for a couple of > beers, which allows both me and the car to cool off, before going further up > the hill to Chandlers Hill, Clarendon. Its all pretty much down hill from > there, and no traffic lights. There is a Supercheap auto parts at the bottom > of Flagstaff Hill road, so I might stop there the next time I am in Adelaide. > From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Wed Jun 24 08:52:23 2009 From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:22:23 +0930 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 fuses and P6 radiator fans In-Reply-To: <1245802472.4a416fe8dd682@webmail.netspace.net.au> References: <mailman.3.1245772804.14483.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <SNT105-W2596B04C9CB4C91E403CD08E360@phx.gbl> <1245802472.4a416fe8dd682@webmail.netspace.net.au> Message-ID: <4A422187.2080007@ozemail.com.au> vmitps at netspace.net.au wrote: > Quoting James Radcliffe <j_radcliffe at hotmail.com>: > >> It is a six blade fan. For those reading in Adelaide it tends to get warm >> going up Flagstaff Hill road on hot days. The proceeding intersections along >> Marion road always seem to be synchronised so you have to stop at them, some >> even have read light cameras. Upon going up the hill the standard solution >> tends to be to drive gently along Happy Valley drive, so things cool down a >> bit, then park under a tree, and stop at the Hub tavern for a couple of >> beers, which allows both me and the car to cool off, before going further up >> the hill to Chandlers Hill, Clarendon. Its all pretty much down hill from >> there, and no traffic lights. There is a Supercheap auto parts at the bottom >> of Flagstaff Hill road, so I might stop there the next time I am in Adelaide. >> > > How hot is hot? > My TC got to the top of the green border with a 4 blade fan at 40C on the > Pacific Hwy, or 36C idling at lights. > If it is happening at lower temps then I'd look at some radiator clean. > > PVS > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > From gbbourque at hotmail.com Wed Jun 24 14:30:56 2009 From: gbbourque at hotmail.com (garrett bourque) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:30:56 +0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S rear end In-Reply-To: <002601c9f4c2$b9f16e90$4001a8c0@hewlett2n8fn74> References: <BAY119-W99EA5B5C34F9F6C5EF7C4DE410@phx.gbl> <002601c9f4c2$b9f16e90$4001a8c0@hewlett2n8fn74> Message-ID: <SNT108-W50C480739E2D0E37F9BD48A1370@phx.gbl> Hello Rovernetters, I have, as you might recall that I have advertised in the past, a Rover 3500S for sale or for parts. It was last on the road in 1980 in Georgia and has lots of faded paint but is very rust free. It originally appears to have been medium blue, and now is dark green. I have owned it about 5 years and have kept it inside but need the space. This bodyshell is nice and would be a good to have with a donor car. A second car to this one would provide some replacement parts, missing on this one giving you a complete car to do a restoration on. This car is not complete. The AC equipment is missing, the left rear door is dented. I have an original type engine, the original to my own 3500S, engine is in good cond with new head gaskets and water pump, but missing valve covers and other outside accessories. SD1 covers included but do not fit due to some internal differences. Suspension and brakes are complete. The car rolls and steers. Interior is rough but mostly there except radio and icealert consoles. If the car does not sell, in the near furure, I will part it out. Contact me for more details at gbbourque at hotmail.com. Thanks, Garrett Bourque Jefferson, Maine USA. From: lewill at ctcweb.net To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:55:52 -0600 Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S rear end Bill, I don't have an extra 3500 rear end around but I did make the conversion a couple of years ago on a TC. It made a snappy car into a less snappy car and one that doesn't go up the hills as well as the original ran. Ian Potts also made the conversion. You might get his opinion on the subject. At 60 mph the I did lose about 700rpm after to conversion. Now at 60 mph the rev counter reads 2300 rpm. Regards, Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Robertson To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 3:19 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S rear end Does anyone have a spare good rear end (differential) for the 3500S....hopefully near Ontario......I want to put one in my 2000TC to lower the final drive and make it more highway friendly Thanks Bill Robertson Attention all humans. We are your photos. Free us. _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _________________________________________________________________ Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. 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Re: P5 fuses and P6 radiator fans (David Read) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:22:10 +0930 > From: David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 fuses and P6 radiator fans > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <4A42217A.1080901 at ozemail.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > James > Stopping at pubs is always a good idea <g>, however ..... > I would suggest that if you are having trouble with the OEM system, the individual components should be looked at. > > * radiator tubes and fins. > > * radiator cap > > * thermostat opening too far/stuck open .... this restricts the ability of the coolant to effectively transmit it's heat load to the fins, since > the coolant would be flowing too rapidly thru the core. > IMHO, the thermostat should not get to the fully open (hit the wall) position under normal conditions, it should oscillate to a maximum opening > point somewhere below. > > * coolant concentration (I run 33% Tectalloy Gold coolant to distilled water) > > * hoses for internal delamination/restriction > > HTH > > Cheers > Dave > South Oz > > I have had the radiator recored in the past, and have had it rodded out. I always get them to replace the themostat at the same time. They managed to do this, but did not manage to spot a very lose fan belt, which I thought was a little sloppy on their part. Fixing the exhaust manifold helped also. I think the traffic patterns have not helped, as Adelaide has grown, and I use the car more in the heat then I used to. When you are a student it was just 2 miles to Univeristy, and there was a bar there too, if it was too hot to study, and the bar had airconditioning! I do run coolant at 33%. Does anyone know if there is a difference in response between Smiths gauge BT8101/02 and BT8101/08. Physically the /02 gauge has a wider (green) safe zone and narrower red (danger) zone than the /08 gauge. My parts listing lists BT8101/02 as being for cars up to suffix C. and /08 being from suffix D. Do these gauges respond differently, or is the difference just in the width of the danger zone? My Rover 2000 automatic has a /02 gauge, and is a suffix F I think. My 2000TC which is a 66 model has a /08 temp gauge. I noticed at Rover America that some later model cars had the earlier model gauge. James. _________________________________________________________________ Microsoft brings you a new way to search the web. Try Bing? now http://www.bing.com?form=MFEHPG&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MFEHPG_Core_tagline_try_bing_1x1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From magnet at roverclub.org Wed Jun 24 20:46:14 2009 From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:46:14 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] More pictures from RA09 Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP10183F982DEF1ED6D5898FD91340@phx.gbl> As well as a great set by Peter Christoff, on http://www.roveramerica.com ------------------------------------------ I have posted some more photos from RoveAmerica 09 to the TARC web site... http://www.roverclub.org/ra09/ra09pics2.htm Also, another group of fine pictures of this event, by Eric Russell, are now available on http://www.roveramerica.com Enjoy! -- Bill D. _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From veetwinrider at yahoo.com Wed Jun 24 20:48:56 2009 From: veetwinrider at yahoo.com (roland) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] More pictures from RA09 Message-ID: <535126.61005.qm@web180508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Wow, looks like it was a great show, sorry I missed it. Maybe next year. ? roland --- On Wed, 6/24/09, Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org> wrote: From: Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] More pictures from RA09 To: "ROVERNET" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Cc: "Bill Robertson" <rover2000nut at hotmail.com>, "Bill Osmond" <rretreat at nexicom.net>, "Rosy Bruce Findlay" <bfindlay at pathcom.com>, "William Daddis" <wrsdaddis at gmail.com> Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 5:25 PM I have posted some more photos from RoveAmerica 09 to the TARC web site... http://www.roverclub.org/ra09/ra09pics2.htm Also, another group of fine pictures of this event, by Eric Russell, are now available on http://www.roveramerica.com Enjoy! -- Bill D. _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best regards, Gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Magnet Inviato: domenica 21 giugno 2009 1.34 A: ROVERNET Cc: Bill Robertson; Bill Osmond; Rosy Bruce Findlay; William Daddis Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica pictures For those Rover enthusiasts who were unable to attend this year's RoveAmerica gathering, here are a few pictures. http://www.roverclub.org/ra09/ra09pics1.htm I will post more pictures of this great event as soon as the rest of films are processed... Cheers, -- Bill Daddis _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From MarkCoorparoo at aol.com Thu Jun 25 08:27:03 2009 From: MarkCoorparoo at aol.com (MarkCoorparoo at aol.com) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:27:03 EDT Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 Fuses Message-ID: <ccc.55104f73.3774c717@aol.com> Are these "3AG" ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Geoff "This is the final test of a gentleman: his respect for those who can be of no possible service to him." - William Lyon Phelps Geoff Kirkpatrick, 382 Riverside Avenue, Ben Lomond, CA 95005, USA From irishrover1 at sympatico.ca Thu Jun 25 12:41:08 2009 From: irishrover1 at sympatico.ca (BEN RODGERS) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:41:08 -0300 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] More pictures from RA09 References: <379837.61584.qm@web36201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP54B4756D5FF1341715C34E95340@phx.gbl> Hey Geof Parking space is at a premium in that part of the world! Ben (irishrover) Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com From mikshdik at gmail.com Fri Jun 26 01:02:34 2009 From: mikshdik at gmail.com (Mike Shaddick) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:02:34 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Message-ID: <774478930906252202y3d2e236aqda6b9f620ee73f9c@mail.gmail.com> Please amend my subscription to "digest" mode. Thank you. rgds From rababiuk at telusplanet.net Fri Jun 26 11:05:08 2009 From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net (Roy Babiuk) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:05:08 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1939 rover for auction in Alberta Sunday June 28 Message-ID: <066E7E91-9F7F-4D91-8861-2A91C224A4C7@telusplanet.net> As per article in Edmonton Journal this morning. Restored 1939 Rover for auction in Radway Alberta, Sunday June 28. described as: Suicide 4 dr., right hand drive, 6 cyl - 4 spd., overdrive trans., with free wheeling, Complete All Orig. Scroll to the bottom to see picture (number 12) http://www.globalauctionguide.com/cgi-bin/guide.cgi?sec=v&type=c&id=prodan&anum=1228246663&allimages=yes#images -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090626/675d2c45/attachment.html> From geffandjulie at comcast.net Sat Jun 27 12:48:58 2009 From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 09:48:58 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front Flasher Lens In-Reply-To: <4A411E4D.2050607@att.net> References: <mailman.18.1245684931.13910.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <DA.89.11978.54A114A4@cm-1.zoominternet.net> <4A411E4D.2050607@att.net> Message-ID: <002301c9f747$2b4e9a00$81ebce00$@net> If not, I may have one, buried in a box. Let me know. AvMedSafe Geff and Julie McCarthy 677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR 97210 503-241-8468 503-799-3809 mobile -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Kent Kinard Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:26 AM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front Flasher Lens Hi Warren, It will be Saturday at the soonest before I can look. There are two types-a one piece and a two piece. I assume yours is one piece but will check the numbers. Roverly, Kent K. G. Warren Smith wrote: > Thanks, Kent and all who offered to help. You are right; the lens I > need is the one located _below_ the bumper. There isn't enough left of > the original lens to see a number, but assuming it is the same as on > the left side, that amber lens is marked "SAE DP 69 L839. It has a > rectangular footprint and an angular face. My parts book lists it as > (probably) #606648. > > Kent, I'm not in a great rush and a new one would be great, if > available. Let me know the particulars. Best regards to all, > > Warren > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> From: "G. Warren Smith" <gwarrensmith at zoominternet.net> >> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:33:26 -0400 >> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front Flasher Lens >> >> Hi All, >> >> Before I take my 1970 3500S in for inspection, I need to find a good >> used _amber lens for my right front flasher lamp_. If anyone has a >> spare available that I could acquire, I'd appreciate hearing from you. >> >> Sorry to have missed the RoveAmerica event, but too many other >> responsibilities here to get away. The photos are great and I hope >> to join the group next year! Thanks, >> >> Warren >> >> G. Warren Smith >> 101 Ayyar Court >> Slippery Rock, PA 16057 > > > >> From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> >> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:20:16 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front Flasher Lens >> >> >> Hi Warren, >> I probably have some new ones, but it will be the middle of the week >> before I can go check. Can you give me the number off the lens? >> >> Roverly, >> Kent K. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From kkinard at att.net Sat Jun 27 17:39:59 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:39:59 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front Flasher Lens In-Reply-To: <DA.89.11978.54A114A4@cm-1.zoominternet.net> References: <mailman.18.1245684931.13910.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <DA.89.11978.54A114A4@cm-1.zoominternet.net> Message-ID: <4A4691AF.8050600@att.net> Hi Warren, I don't know whether it's the right box or not, but it's definitely the right lens. SAE DP 69 L839 (no gasket though) $10.00 plus shipping. How do you want it sent? Roverly, Kent K. G. Warren Smith wrote: > Thanks, Kent and all who offered to help. You are right; the lens I > need is the one located _below_ the bumper. There isn't enough left of > the original lens to see a number, but assuming it is the same as on > the left side, that amber lens is marked "SAE DP 69 L839. It has a > rectangular footprint and an angular face. My parts book lists it as > (probably) #606648. > > Kent, I'm not in a great rush and a new one would be great, if > available. Let me know the particulars. Best regards to all, > > Warren > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> From: "G. Warren Smith" <gwarrensmith at zoominternet.net> >> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:33:26 -0400 >> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front Flasher Lens >> >> Hi All, >> >> Before I take my 1970 3500S in for inspection, I need to find a good >> used _amber lens for my right front flasher lamp_. If anyone has a >> spare available that I could acquire, I'd appreciate hearing from you. >> >> Sorry to have missed the RoveAmerica event, but too many other >> responsibilities here to get away. The photos are great and I hope >> to join the group next year! Thanks, >> >> Warren >> >> G. Warren Smith >> 101 Ayyar Court >> Slippery Rock, PA 16057 > > > >> From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> >> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:20:16 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front Flasher Lens >> >> >> Hi Warren, >> I probably have some new ones, but it will be the middle of the week >> before I can go check. Can you give me the number off the lens? >> >> Roverly, >> Kent K. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From gwarrensmith at zoominternet.net Sun Jun 28 16:00:17 2009 From: gwarrensmith at zoominternet.net (G. Warren Smith) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:00:17 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 12, Issue 49 In-Reply-To: <mailman.4.1246204869.17432.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.c a> References: <mailman.4.1246204869.17432.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <4F.83.11978.9DBC74A4@cm-1.zoominternet.net> Kent, USPS should be fine. Include an address and I'll remit the $10 + shipping upon receipt. Friday, I got my other 1970 3500S (Brigade Red) back from a major tune-up and fixing the AC (for the first time in 20 years). When returned, the gear shift wouldn't go into "Park" and all the other gears were one off from the dial plate. Yesterday, I drove it (carefully) to fill it with gas and the gear shift lever became disengaged and dropped down a couple of inches. By some fiddling around, I got it into a forward gear and, holding the shift lever up, I was able to make it home. Took the center console apart and can't find any missing bolts or anything "obviously" wrong. I guess I'll need to have it towed to the mechanic and have it looked at from underneath. Any idea what happened? Thanks again for your help! Gaskets are more easily made than lenses. Warren >From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> >Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:39:59 -0500 >Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Front Flasher Lens > >Hi Warren, >I don't know whether it's the right box or not, but it's definitely >the right lens. SAE DP 69 L839 (no gasket though) >$10.00 plus shipping. How do you want it sent? > >Roverly, >Kent K. > >G. Warren Smith wrote: >>Thanks, Kent and all who offered to help. You are right; the lens >>I need is the one located "below" the bumper. There isn't enough >>left of the original lens to see a number, but assuming it is the >>same as on the left side, that amber lens is marked "SAE DP 69 >>L839. It has a rectangular footprint and an angular face. My >>parts book lists it as (probably) #606648. >>Kent, I'm not in a great rush and a new one would be great, if >>available. Let me know the particulars. Best regards to all, >> >>Warren -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090628/1d17a0a6/attachment.html> From goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com Mon Jun 29 08:23:21 2009 From: goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com (Dennis Brooks) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:23:21 -0300 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500 S Has Gotta go.. Message-ID: <COL114-W61139A379FBFF9E5919B48DE300@phx.gbl> Due to lack of storage room I have to part with my "rolling" 3500s parts/spares car...it is actually restorable and has been sitting in a shelter for the past 4 years or so...I am more interested in seeing it find a good home than the $$$ ...so any offer could be considered reasonable but this car needs to be towed or flat bed ...and it must be quite soon. I also am in possesion of a LOT of good spare parts like doors /water pumps /dashes/ etc...that I will sell very reasonably. _________________________________________________________________ Create a cool, new character for your Windows Live? Messenger. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9656621 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090629/ce91ef79/attachment.html> From rovercar at comcast.net Mon Jun 29 08:30:15 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:30:15 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear Selector Problem 3500S Auto In-Reply-To: <4F.83.11978.9DBC74A4@cm-1.zoominternet.net> References: <mailman.4.1246204869.17432.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <4F.83.11978.9DBC74A4@cm-1.zoominternet.net> Message-ID: <4A48B3D7.4020203@comcast.net> G. Warren Smith wrote: > Friday, I got my other 1970 3500S (Brigade Red) back from a major > tune-up and fixing the AC (for the first time in 20 years). When > returned, the gear shift wouldn't go into "Park" and all the other > gears were one off from the dial plate. Yesterday, I drove it > (carefully) to fill it with gas and the gear shift lever became > disengaged and dropped down a couple of inches. By some fiddling > around, I got it into a forward gear and, holding the shift lever up, > I was able to make it home. Took the center console apart and can't > find any missing bolts or anything "obviously" wrong. I guess I'll > need to have it towed to the mechanic and have it looked at from > underneath. Any idea what happened? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Due to lack of storage room I have to part with my "rolling" 3500s parts/spares car...it is actually restorable and has been sitting in a shelter for the past 4 years or so...I am more interested in seeing it find a good home than the $$$ ...so any offer could be considered reasonable but this car needs to be towed or flat bed ...and it must be quite soon. ?I also am in possesion of a LOT of good spare parts like doors /water pumps /dashes/ etc...that I will sell very reasonably. ________________________________ Create a cool, new character for your Windows Live? Messenger. Check it out -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090629/d823478f/attachment.html> From goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com Mon Jun 29 12:20:44 2009 From: goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com (Dennis Brooks) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:20:44 -0300 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500 S Has Gotta go.. In-Reply-To: <441775.74136.qm@web38408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <COL114-W61139A379FBFF9E5919B48DE300@phx.gbl> <441775.74136.qm@web38408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <COL114-W210111E8A446F73EC95DAEDE300@phx.gbl> The car is in waterford New Brunswick , Canada...just outside of the town of Sussex.. Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:33:17 -0700 From: rovertcv8 at yahoo.com To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500 S Has Gotta go.. Good Morning, Where are you located? David From: Dennis Brooks <goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 8:23:21 AM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500 S Has Gotta go.. Due to lack of storage room I have to part with my "rolling" 3500s parts/spares car...it is actually restorable and has been sitting in a shelter for the past 4 years or so...I am more interested in seeing it find a good home than the $$$ ...so any offer could be considered reasonable but this car needs to be towed or flat bed ...and it must be quite soon. I also am in possesion of a LOT of good spare parts like doors /water pumps /dashes/ etc...that I will sell very reasonably. Create a cool, new character for your Windows Live? Messenger. Check it out _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live helps you keep up with all your friends, in one place. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9660826 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Barry From magnet at roverclub.org Mon Jun 29 20:04:13 2009 From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:04:13 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Peripheral pictures Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP68FAC074376A32660D7F8C91310@phx.gbl> I'm in two minds about posting these pictures -- they don't relate directly to Rovers, as I took them on the way to and from Dirk's famous event in Fitchburg. But on the assumption that Rovers don't exist in a vacuum, and that most Rover aficionados will be at least somewhat interested in other things technical and historical, here they are: http://www.roverclub.org/ra09/ra09pics1.htm Cheers, -- Bill D. From magnet at roverclub.org Mon Jun 29 20:08:59 2009 From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:08:59 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Peripheral pictures - corrected link Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP6666636A47BFFA7F70BD4B91310@phx.gbl> Sorry about that, it should have been http://www.roverclub.org/ra09/ra09pics3.htm -- Bill D. From rovercar at comcast.net Mon Jun 29 21:25:40 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:25:40 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Peripheral pictures - corrected link In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP6666636A47BFFA7F70BD4B91310@phx.gbl> References: <BLU0-SMTP6666636A47BFFA7F70BD4B91310@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <4A496994.1080000@comcast.net> Magnet wrote: > Sorry about that, it should have been > > http://www.roverclub.org/ra09/ra09pics3.htm > > > -- Bill D. Bill, These were of interest to me because Rouses Point and Bellows Falls were major places on the old Rutland Railway. The main route of the railroad ran from Bellows Falls north to Rouses Point by way of several bridges and causeways crossing Lake Champlain. From Rouses Point, it struck out almost due west to Ogdensburg, NY where it terminated on the St. Lawrence. You must have pretty well paralleled this route on your way from Toronto to Fitchburg. Here are a couple of maps. http://users.rcn.com/jimdu4/system.htm The Rutland has long been an interest of mine. It was a very picturesque old road with passenger and milk train operations going through a number of lovely little towns. Over the years, the railroad had to survive hard times and floods to continue operating. I have several books about the Rutland and have amassed a pretty good collection of H.O.scale model railroad equipment for that road name. Thanks for the pics. Glen From kkinard at att.net Tue Jun 30 15:09:14 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:09:14 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Magstar lug nuts Message-ID: <4A4A62DA.9060607@att.net> Hi Netters, Someone at Fitchburg was looking for Magstar lug nuts. I have ten new ones and also at least as many good used. Roverly, Kent K. From kkinard at att.net Tue Jun 30 15:13:14 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:13:14 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P6 underbonnet stickers Message-ID: <4A4A63CA.6050707@att.net> Hi Netters, I have also found a large selection of under bonnet stickers for P6 and P6B. Let me know your needs. Roverly, Kent K. From gbbourque at hotmail.com Tue Jun 30 15:15:03 2009 From: gbbourque at hotmail.com (garrett bourque) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:15:03 +0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Magstar lug nuts In-Reply-To: <4A4A62DA.9060607@att.net> References: <4A4A62DA.9060607@att.net> Message-ID: <SNT108-W38214535B58229720D612A1310@phx.gbl> Hello Rovernetters, If anybody could use one, I also have one Magstar wheel for sale. It is in ok condition and can be refinished to suit. Use as a matching spare or replace a damaged one. No tire included. Let me know if you are interested. Garrett Bourque Jefferson, Maine gbbourque at hotmail.com > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:09:14 -0500 > From: kkinard at att.net > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Magstar lug nuts > > Hi Netters, > Someone at Fitchburg was looking for Magstar lug nuts. I have ten new > ones and also at least as many good used. > > Roverly, > Kent K. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I will keep you posted Dirk -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of rovernet-request at rovernet.ca Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:00 PM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 12, Issue 51 Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to rovernet at rovernet.ca To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to rovernet-request at rovernet.ca You can reach the person managing the list at rovernet-owner at rovernet.ca When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..." Please edit your digest reply by changing the subject line to the topic to which you are referring. Today's Topics: 1. Re: 3500 S Has Gotta go.. (Dennis Brooks) 2. 1939 Rover 16 (Barry & Shirley Lafbery) 3. Peripheral pictures (Magnet) 4. Peripheral pictures - corrected link (Magnet) 5. Re: Peripheral pictures - corrected link (Glen Wilson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:20:44 -0300 From: Dennis Brooks <goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500 S Has Gotta go.. To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <COL114-W210111E8A446F73EC95DAEDE300 at phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" The car is in waterford New Brunswick , Canada...just outside of the town of Sussex.. Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:33:17 -0700 From: rovertcv8 at yahoo.com To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500 S Has Gotta go.. Good Morning, Where are you located? David From: Dennis Brooks <goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 8:23:21 AM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500 S Has Gotta go.. Due to lack of storage room I have to part with my "rolling" 3500s parts/spares car...it is actually restorable and has been sitting in a shelter for the past 4 years or so...I am more interested in seeing it find a good home than the $$$ ...so any offer could be considered reasonable but this car needs to be towed or flat bed ...and it must be quite soon. I also am in possesion of a LOT of good spare parts like doors /water pumps /dashes/ etc...that I will sell very reasonably. Create a cool, new character for your Windows Live? Messenger. Check it out _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live helps you keep up with all your friends, in one place. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9660826 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Barry ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:04:13 -0400 From: Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Peripheral pictures To: ROVERNET <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP68FAC074376A32660D7F8C91310 at phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I'm in two minds about posting these pictures -- they don't relate directly to Rovers, as I took them on the way to and from Dirk's famous event in Fitchburg. But on the assumption that Rovers don't exist in a vacuum, and that most Rover aficionados will be at least somewhat interested in other things technical and historical, here they are: http://www.roverclub.org/ra09/ra09pics1.htm Cheers, -- Bill D. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:08:59 -0400 From: Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Peripheral pictures - corrected link To: ROVERNET <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP6666636A47BFFA7F70BD4B91310 at phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Sorry about that, it should have been http://www.roverclub.org/ra09/ra09pics3.htm -- Bill D. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:25:40 -0400 From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Peripheral pictures - corrected link To: magnet at roverclub.org, "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <4A496994.1080000 at comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Magnet wrote: > Sorry about that, it should have been > > http://www.roverclub.org/ra09/ra09pics3.htm > > > -- Bill D. Bill, These were of interest to me because Rouses Point and Bellows Falls were major places on the old Rutland Railway. The main route of the railroad ran from Bellows Falls north to Rouses Point by way of several bridges and causeways crossing Lake Champlain. From Rouses Point, it struck out almost due west to Ogdensburg, NY where it terminated on the St. Lawrence. You must have pretty well paralleled this route on your way from Toronto to Fitchburg. Here are a couple of maps. http://users.rcn.com/jimdu4/system.htm The Rutland has long been an interest of mine. It was a very picturesque old road with passenger and milk train operations going through a number of lovely little towns. Over the years, the railroad had to survive hard times and floods to continue operating. I have several books about the Rutland and have amassed a pretty good collection of H.O.scale model railroad equipment for that road name. Thanks for the pics. Glen ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ End of Rovernet Digest, Vol 12, Issue 51 **************************************** From lafbery at telus.net Tue Jun 30 16:23:32 2009 From: lafbery at telus.net (Barry & Shirley Lafbery) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:23:32 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 16 In-Reply-To: <7CC8BBB1DD4245418A5CF03C61AD0E12@DirkPC2> References: <7CC8BBB1DD4245418A5CF03C61AD0E12@DirkPC2> Message-ID: <5A7EF1952CFA4754BA25D7FCC66E5A26@ChloePC> Hi Dirk, I also bid up to $5000 and the auctioneer also told me that he thought it went to some one local so you could be right about the Peking to Paris couple. I think Eric may have a contact email for them. I am almost certain that that is the car a friend of mine and an ex RCCC member Ted Evans (passed away a few years ago) bought from the UK with him and his family. They came by ship and landed at Montreal and drove across Canada to Edmonton in 1964. When they moved to BC he sold the car to a neighbour and told me many times how he regretted selling the car. He wrote quite a story about the trip in the Roverview back in the 90s. Barry > > Hi Barry, > > I put a bid up to $5000 but the car sold for $8500. I spoke to the > auctioneer who is a good guy and he promised to email me the contact > details > of the buyers. He did tell me they were from Edmonton and a husband and > wife > team which makes me wonder if it was the Peking to Paris couple who drove > the Rover 12. > > I will keep you posted > > Dirk > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > On > Behalf Of rovernet-request at rovernet.ca > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:00 PM > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 12, Issue 51 > > Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to > rovernet at rovernet.ca > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > rovernet-request at rovernet.ca > > You can reach the person managing the list at > rovernet-owner at rovernet.ca > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..." > > > Please edit your digest reply by changing the subject line to the topic to > which you are referring. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: 3500 S Has Gotta go.. (Dennis Brooks) > 2. 1939 Rover 16 (Barry & Shirley Lafbery) > 3. Peripheral pictures (Magnet) > 4. Peripheral pictures - corrected link (Magnet) > 5. Re: Peripheral pictures - corrected link (Glen Wilson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:20:44 -0300 > From: Dennis Brooks <goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500 S Has Gotta go.. > To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <COL114-W210111E8A446F73EC95DAEDE300 at phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > > The car is in waterford New Brunswick , Canada...just outside of the town > of > Sussex.. > > > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:33:17 -0700 > From: rovertcv8 at yahoo.com > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500 S Has Gotta go.. > > > > > > Good Morning, > Where are you located? > David > > > > > From: Dennis Brooks <goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com> > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 8:23:21 AM > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500 S Has Gotta go.. > > > > Due to lack of storage room I have to part with my "rolling" 3500s > parts/spares car...it is actually restorable and has been sitting in a > shelter for the past 4 years or so...I am more interested in seeing it > find > a good home than the $$$ ...so any offer could be considered reasonable > but > this car needs to be towed or flat bed ...and it must be quite soon. > I also am in possesion of a LOT of good spare parts like doors /water > pumps > /dashes/ etc...that I will sell very reasonably. > > > > Create a cool, new character for your Windows Live? Messenger. Check it > out > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live helps you keep up with all your friends, in one place. > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9660826 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090629/5f02 > 8d28/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:26:49 -0700 > From: "Barry & Shirley Lafbery" <lafbery at telus.net> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1939 Rover 16 > To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <314FA17A5E894AB7B825DD89423267C6 at ChloePC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > OK guys, > Own up, who bought the 1939 Rover 16 from the Edmonton auction. > I bid several thousand dollars and still did not get it. > I would have loved to have that car as I know it's history from when a > friend of mine bought it with him when he emigrated to Canada in 1964 and > how it carried him and his family across Canada to Edmonton. > He would have loved to know it was still around but he passed away a few > years ago. > > Barry > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:04:13 -0400 > From: Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Peripheral pictures > To: ROVERNET <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP68FAC074376A32660D7F8C91310 at phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I'm in two minds about posting these pictures -- they don't relate > directly > to Rovers, as I took them on the way to and from Dirk's famous event in > Fitchburg. > > But on the assumption that Rovers don't exist in a vacuum, and that most > Rover aficionados will be at least somewhat interested in other things > technical and historical, here they are: > > http://www.roverclub.org/ra09/ra09pics1.htm > > > Cheers, > > -- Bill D. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:08:59 -0400 > From: Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Peripheral pictures - corrected > link > To: ROVERNET <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP6666636A47BFFA7F70BD4B91310 at phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Sorry about that, it should have been > > http://www.roverclub.org/ra09/ra09pics3.htm > > > -- Bill D. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:25:40 -0400 > From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Peripheral pictures - > corrected link > To: magnet at roverclub.org, "The original list for Rover car > enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <4A496994.1080000 at comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Magnet wrote: >> Sorry about that, it should have been >> >> http://www.roverclub.org/ra09/ra09pics3.htm >> >> >> -- Bill D. > > Bill, > > These were of interest to me because Rouses Point and Bellows Falls were > major places on the old Rutland Railway. The main route of the railroad > ran > from Bellows Falls north to Rouses Point by way of several bridges and > causeways crossing Lake Champlain. From Rouses Point, it struck out almost > due west to Ogdensburg, NY where it terminated on the St. > Lawrence. You must have pretty well paralleled this route on your way from > Toronto to Fitchburg. Here are a couple of maps. > > http://users.rcn.com/jimdu4/system.htm > > The Rutland has long been an interest of mine. It was a very picturesque > old > road with passenger and milk train operations going through a number of > lovely little towns. Over the years, the railroad had to survive hard > times > and floods to continue operating. I have several books about the Rutland > and > have amassed a pretty good collection of H.O.scale model railroad > equipment > for that road name. > > Thanks for the pics. > > Glen > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > End of Rovernet Digest, Vol 12, Issue 51 > **************************************** > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.1/2211 - Release Date: 06/30/09 11:37:00 From Pjemail at aol.com Tue Jun 30 17:51:59 2009 From: Pjemail at aol.com (Pjemail at aol.com) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:51:59 EDT Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] My trip to the US and Canada Message-ID: <cff.58e29ee7.377be2ff@aol.com> I know it is rather short notice but I will be travelling to the US and Canada on Thursday and I may have some spare room/weight allowance for any parts which any of you North American Rover owners might want. This would present a good opportunity to save on shipping costs. I will be able to mail things from the US or Canada depending on where the recipient is. There is a limit of course to what can be brought, so no requests for engine blocks! My journey will take me from New York via Toronto, Chicago, Salt Lake City, Astoria (OR), San Francisco, LA to Las Vegas, so I may get an opportunity to meet some of you. Kent, I still have a small part you had sent to me; shall I bring it with me and mail it to you? Regards, Pierre Janusz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090630/e145c7e9/attachment-0001.html> From vern at inkspotco.com Tue Jun 30 19:11:42 2009 From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:11:42 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 16 In-Reply-To: <7CC8BBB1DD4245418A5CF03C61AD0E12@DirkPC2> References: <7CC8BBB1DD4245418A5CF03C61AD0E12@DirkPC2> Message-ID: <C1C907D7-403D-49AA-9B60-8B87365DFCC2@inkspotco.com> HI All Leigh Pullen, the Peking Man (so to speak) is in Calgary. So I think we have a new player, if the Edmonton location is correct. Yours Vern On 30-Jun-09, at 12:50 PM, Dirk Burrowes wrote: > Hi Barry, > > I put a bid up to $5000 but the car sold for $8500. I spoke to the > auctioneer who is a good guy and he promised to email me the contact > details > of the buyers. He did tell me they were from Edmonton and a husband > and wife > team which makes me wonder if it was the Peking to Paris couple who > drove > the Rover 12. > > I will keep you posted > > Dirk > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > ] On > Behalf Of rovernet-request at rovernet.ca > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:00 PM > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 12, Issue 51 > > Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to > rovernet at rovernet.ca > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > rovernet-request at rovernet.ca > > You can reach the person managing the list at > rovernet-owner at rovernet.ca > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than > "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..." > > > Please edit your digest reply by changing the subject line to the > topic to > which you are referring. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: 3500 S Has Gotta go.. (Dennis Brooks) > 2. 1939 Rover 16 (Barry & Shirley Lafbery) > 3. Peripheral pictures (Magnet) > 4. Peripheral pictures - corrected link (Magnet) > 5. Re: Peripheral pictures - corrected link (Glen Wilson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:20:44 -0300 > From: Dennis Brooks <goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500 S Has Gotta go.. > To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <COL114-W210111E8A446F73EC95DAEDE300 at phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > > The car is in waterford New Brunswick , Canada...just outside of the > town of > Sussex.. > > > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:33:17 -0700 > From: rovertcv8 at yahoo.com > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500 S Has Gotta go.. > > > > > > Good Morning, > Where are you located? > David > > > > > From: Dennis Brooks <goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com> > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 8:23:21 AM > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500 S Has Gotta go.. > > > > Due to lack of storage room I have to part with my "rolling" 3500s > parts/spares car...it is actually restorable and has been sitting in a > shelter for the past 4 years or so...I am more interested in seeing > it find > a good home than the $$$ ...so any offer could be considered > reasonable but > this car needs to be towed or flat bed ...and it must be quite soon. > I also am in possesion of a LOT of good spare parts like doors / > water pumps > /dashes/ etc...that I will sell very reasonably. > > > > Create a cool, new character for your Windows Live? 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Check > it out > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live helps you keep up with all your friends, in one place. > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9660826 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090629/5f02 > 8d28/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:26:49 -0700 > From: "Barry & Shirley Lafbery" <lafbery at telus.net> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1939 Rover 16 > To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <314FA17A5E894AB7B825DD89423267C6 at ChloePC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > OK guys, > Own up, who bought the 1939 Rover 16 from the Edmonton > auction. > I bid several thousand dollars and still did not get it. > I would have loved to have that car as I know it's history from when a > friend of mine bought it with him when he emigrated to Canada in > 1964 and > how it carried him and his family across Canada to Edmonton. > He would have loved to know it was still around but he passed away a > few > years ago. > > Barry > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:04:13 -0400 > From: Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Peripheral pictures > To: ROVERNET <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP68FAC074376A32660D7F8C91310 at phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I'm in two minds about posting these pictures -- they don't relate > directly > to Rovers, as I took them on the way to and from Dirk's famous event > in > Fitchburg. > > But on the assumption that Rovers don't exist in a vacuum, and that > most > Rover aficionados will be at least somewhat interested in other things > technical and historical, here they are: > > http://www.roverclub.org/ra09/ra09pics1.htm > > > Cheers, > > -- Bill D. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:08:59 -0400 > From: Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Peripheral pictures - corrected > link > To: ROVERNET <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP6666636A47BFFA7F70BD4B91310 at phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Sorry about that, it should have been > > http://www.roverclub.org/ra09/ra09pics3.htm > > > -- Bill D. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:25:40 -0400 > From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Peripheral pictures - > corrected link > To: magnet at roverclub.org, "The original list for Rover car > enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <4A496994.1080000 at comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Magnet wrote: >> Sorry about that, it should have been >> >> http://www.roverclub.org/ra09/ra09pics3.htm >> >> >> -- Bill D. > > Bill, > > These were of interest to me because Rouses Point and Bellows Falls > were > major places on the old Rutland Railway. The main route of the > railroad ran > from Bellows Falls north to Rouses Point by way of several bridges and > causeways crossing Lake Champlain. From Rouses Point, it struck out > almost > due west to Ogdensburg, NY where it terminated on the St. > Lawrence. You must have pretty well paralleled this route on your > way from > Toronto to Fitchburg. Here are a couple of maps. > > http://users.rcn.com/jimdu4/system.htm > > The Rutland has long been an interest of mine. It was a very > picturesque old > road with passenger and milk train operations going through a number > of > lovely little towns. Over the years, the railroad had to survive > hard times > and floods to continue operating. I have several books about the > Rutland and > have amassed a pretty good collection of H.O.scale model railroad > equipment > for that road name. > > Thanks for the pics. > > Glen > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > End of Rovernet Digest, Vol 12, Issue 51 > **************************************** > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com Tue Jun 30 19:33:03 2009 From: goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com (Dennis Brooks) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:33:03 -0300 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500 S Has Gotta go.. In-Reply-To: <COL114-W61139A379FBFF9E5919B48DE300@phx.gbl> References: <COL114-W61139A379FBFF9E5919B48DE300@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <COL114-W244A823254F43399CCAE22DE310@phx.gbl> This '70 P6B has to go soon...or it's goona be crushed I am sorry to say...it's FREE to a good home ....can't beat that deal folks !! From: goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:23:21 -0300 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500 S Has Gotta go.. Due to lack of storage room I have to part with my "rolling" 3500s parts/spares car...it is actually restorable and has been sitting in a shelter for the past 4 years or so...I am more interested in seeing it find a good home than the $$$ ...so any offer could be considered reasonable but this car needs to be towed or flat bed ...and it must be quite soon. I also am in possesion of a LOT of good spare parts like doors /water pumps /dashes/ etc...that I will sell very reasonably. Create a cool, new character for your Windows Live? Messenger. Check it out _________________________________________________________________ Internet explorer 8 lets you browse the web faster. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9655582 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090630/7f37b424/attachment.html> From david at davidwalter.net Tue Jun 30 19:39:43 2009 From: david at davidwalter.net (David Walter) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:39:43 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] My trip to the US and Canada In-Reply-To: <cff.58e29ee7.377be2ff@aol.com> References: <cff.58e29ee7.377be2ff@aol.com> Message-ID: <E8BE3D347DCD4B5B82474CB9E88F3C07@DavidVista> Pierre, I am in need of the large red double portion under bonnet label which goes on the radiator cowling part No. 371018 and a 3500 badge for the boot lid, (2 pins) this is the flat,silk screened version, not the engraved early model. Part No. 370118 . let me know if this is doable. Best regards David ----- Original Message ----- From: Pjemail at aol.com To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] My trip to the US and Canada I know it is rather short notice but I will be travelling to the US and Canada on Thursday and I may have some spare room/weight allowance for any parts which any of you North American Rover owners might want. This would present a good opportunity to save on shipping costs. I will be able to mail things from the US or Canada depending on where the recipient is. There is a limit of course to what can be brought, so no requests for engine blocks! My journey will take me from New York via Toronto, Chicago, Salt Lake City, Astoria (OR), San Francisco, LA to Las Vegas, so I may get an opportunity to meet some of you. Kent, I still have a small part you had sent to me; shall I bring it with me and mail it to you? 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090630/c4013e32/attachment.html> From veetwinrider at yahoo.com Tue Jun 30 19:58:44 2009 From: veetwinrider at yahoo.com (roland) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] My trip to the US and Canada Message-ID: <107451.71968.qm@web180502.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Pierre, I am in need a an HD8 jet valve if it can handle the oxygenated gas we have here. I had to replace the one I get from MOSS Motors every couple of years as the fuel here ruins them. I also would like to get a standard needle and seat since the GROSS one keeps sticking. Thanks. ? roland 1960 P5 3L --- On Tue, 6/30/09, Pjemail at aol.com <Pjemail at aol.com> wrote: From: Pjemail at aol.com <Pjemail at aol.com> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] My trip to the US and Canada To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 2:51 PM I know it is rather short notice but I will be travelling to the US and Canada on Thursday and I may have some spare room/weight allowance for any parts which any of you North American Rover owners might want. This would present a good opportunity to save on shipping costs. I will be able to mail things from the US or Canada depending on where the recipient is. There is a limit of course to what can be brought, so no requests for engine blocks! ? My journey will take me from New York via Toronto, Chicago, Salt Lake City, Astoria (OR), San Francisco, LA to Las Vegas, so I may get an opportunity to meet some of you. ? Kent, I still have a small part you had sent to me; shall I bring it with me and mail it to you? ? 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Thanks Dirk -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of rovernet-request at rovernet.ca Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 5:52 PM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 12, Issue 52 Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to rovernet at rovernet.ca To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to rovernet-request at rovernet.ca You can reach the person managing the list at rovernet-owner at rovernet.ca When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..." Please edit your digest reply by changing the subject line to the topic to which you are referring. Today's Topics: 1. Magstar lug nuts (Kent Kinard) 2. P6 underbonnet stickers (Kent Kinard) 3. Re: Magstar lug nuts (garrett bourque) 4. Rover 16 (Dirk Burrowes) 5. Re: Rover 16 (Barry & Shirley Lafbery) 6. Re: My trip to the US and Canada (Pjemail at aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:09:14 -0500 From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Magstar lug nuts To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <4A4A62DA.9060607 at att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi Netters, Someone at Fitchburg was looking for Magstar lug nuts. I have ten new ones and also at least as many good used. Roverly, Kent K. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:13:14 -0500 From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P6 underbonnet stickers To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <4A4A63CA.6050707 at att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi Netters, I have also found a large selection of under bonnet stickers for P6 and P6B. Let me know your needs. Roverly, Kent K. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:15:03 +0000 From: garrett bourque <gbbourque at hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Magstar lug nuts To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <SNT108-W38214535B58229720D612A1310 at phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Hello Rovernetters, If anybody could use one, I also have one Magstar wheel for sale. It is in ok condition and can be refinished to suit. Use as a matching spare or replace a damaged one. No tire included. Let me know if you are interested. Garrett Bourque Jefferson, Maine gbbourque at hotmail.com > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:09:14 -0500 > From: kkinard at att.net > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Magstar lug nuts > > Hi Netters, > Someone at Fitchburg was looking for Magstar lug nuts. I have ten new > ones and also at least as many good used. > > Roverly, > Kent K. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090630/ec6f 1fd4/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:50:13 -0400 From: "Dirk Burrowes" <dirk at vy-tek.com> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 16 To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <7CC8BBB1DD4245418A5CF03C61AD0E12 at DirkPC2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Barry, I put a bid up to $5000 but the car sold for $8500. I spoke to the auctioneer who is a good guy and he promised to email me the contact details of the buyers. He did tell me they were from Edmonton and a husband and wife team which makes me wonder if it was the Peking to Paris couple who drove the Rover 12. I will keep you posted Dirk -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of rovernet-request at rovernet.ca Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:00 PM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 12, Issue 51 Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to rovernet at rovernet.ca To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to rovernet-request at rovernet.ca You can reach the person managing the list at rovernet-owner at rovernet.ca When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..." Please edit your digest reply by changing the subject line to the topic to which you are referring. Today's Topics: 1. Re: 3500 S Has Gotta go.. (Dennis Brooks) 2. 1939 Rover 16 (Barry & Shirley Lafbery) 3. Peripheral pictures (Magnet) 4. Peripheral pictures - corrected link (Magnet) 5. Re: Peripheral pictures - corrected link (Glen Wilson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:20:44 -0300 From: Dennis Brooks <goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500 S Has Gotta go.. To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <COL114-W210111E8A446F73EC95DAEDE300 at phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" The car is in waterford New Brunswick , Canada...just outside of the town of Sussex.. Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:33:17 -0700 From: rovertcv8 at yahoo.com To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500 S Has Gotta go.. Good Morning, Where are you located? David From: Dennis Brooks <goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 8:23:21 AM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500 S Has Gotta go.. Due to lack of storage room I have to part with my "rolling" 3500s parts/spares car...it is actually restorable and has been sitting in a shelter for the past 4 years or so...I am more interested in seeing it find a good home than the $$$ ...so any offer could be considered reasonable but this car needs to be towed or flat bed ...and it must be quite soon. I also am in possesion of a LOT of good spare parts like doors /water pumps /dashes/ etc...that I will sell very reasonably. Create a cool, new character for your Windows Live? Messenger. Check it out _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live helps you keep up with all your friends, in one place. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9660826 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Barry ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:04:13 -0400 From: Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Peripheral pictures To: ROVERNET <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP68FAC074376A32660D7F8C91310 at phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I'm in two minds about posting these pictures -- they don't relate directly to Rovers, as I took them on the way to and from Dirk's famous event in Fitchburg. But on the assumption that Rovers don't exist in a vacuum, and that most Rover aficionados will be at least somewhat interested in other things technical and historical, here they are: http://www.roverclub.org/ra09/ra09pics1.htm Cheers, -- Bill D. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:08:59 -0400 From: Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Peripheral pictures - corrected link To: ROVERNET <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP6666636A47BFFA7F70BD4B91310 at phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Sorry about that, it should have been http://www.roverclub.org/ra09/ra09pics3.htm -- Bill D. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:25:40 -0400 From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Peripheral pictures - corrected link To: magnet at roverclub.org, "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <4A496994.1080000 at comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Magnet wrote: > Sorry about that, it should have been > > http://www.roverclub.org/ra09/ra09pics3.htm > > > -- Bill D. Bill, These were of interest to me because Rouses Point and Bellows Falls were major places on the old Rutland Railway. The main route of the railroad ran from Bellows Falls north to Rouses Point by way of several bridges and causeways crossing Lake Champlain. From Rouses Point, it struck out almost due west to Ogdensburg, NY where it terminated on the St. Lawrence. You must have pretty well paralleled this route on your way from Toronto to Fitchburg. Here are a couple of maps. http://users.rcn.com/jimdu4/system.htm The Rutland has long been an interest of mine. It was a very picturesque old road with passenger and milk train operations going through a number of lovely little towns. Over the years, the railroad had to survive hard times and floods to continue operating. I have several books about the Rutland and have amassed a pretty good collection of H.O.scale model railroad equipment for that road name. Thanks for the pics. Glen ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ End of Rovernet Digest, Vol 12, Issue 51 **************************************** ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:23:32 -0700 From: "Barry & Shirley Lafbery" <lafbery at telus.net> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 16 To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <5A7EF1952CFA4754BA25D7FCC66E5A26 at ChloePC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Dirk, I also bid up to $5000 and the auctioneer also told me that he thought it went to some one local so you could be right about the Peking to Paris couple. I think Eric may have a contact email for them. I am almost certain that that is the car a friend of mine and an ex RCCC member Ted Evans (passed away a few years ago) bought from the UK with him and his family. They came by ship and landed at Montreal and drove across Canada to Edmonton in 1964. When they moved to BC he sold the car to a neighbour and told me many times how he regretted selling the car. He wrote quite a story about the trip in the Roverview back in the 90s. Barry > > Hi Barry, > > I put a bid up to $5000 but the car sold for $8500. I spoke to the > auctioneer who is a good guy and he promised to email me the contact > details > of the buyers. He did tell me they were from Edmonton and a husband and > wife > team which makes me wonder if it was the Peking to Paris couple who drove > the Rover 12. > > I will keep you posted > > Dirk > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > On > Behalf Of rovernet-request at rovernet.ca > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:00 PM > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 12, Issue 51 > > Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to > rovernet at rovernet.ca > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > rovernet-request at rovernet.ca > > You can reach the person managing the list at > rovernet-owner at rovernet.ca > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..." > > > Please edit your digest reply by changing the subject line to the topic to > which you are referring. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: 3500 S Has Gotta go.. (Dennis Brooks) > 2. 1939 Rover 16 (Barry & Shirley Lafbery) > 3. Peripheral pictures (Magnet) > 4. Peripheral pictures - corrected link (Magnet) > 5. Re: Peripheral pictures - corrected link (Glen Wilson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:20:44 -0300 > From: Dennis Brooks <goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500 S Has Gotta go.. > To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <COL114-W210111E8A446F73EC95DAEDE300 at phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > > The car is in waterford New Brunswick , Canada...just outside of the town > of > Sussex.. > > > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:33:17 -0700 > From: rovertcv8 at yahoo.com > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500 S Has Gotta go.. > > > > > > Good Morning, > Where are you located? > David > > > > > From: Dennis Brooks <goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com> > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 8:23:21 AM > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500 S Has Gotta go.. > > > > Due to lack of storage room I have to part with my "rolling" 3500s > parts/spares car...it is actually restorable and has been sitting in a > shelter for the past 4 years or so...I am more interested in seeing it > find > a good home than the $$$ ...so any offer could be considered reasonable > but > this car needs to be towed or flat bed ...and it must be quite soon. > I also am in possesion of a LOT of good spare parts like doors /water > pumps > /dashes/ etc...that I will sell very reasonably. > > > > Create a cool, new character for your Windows Live? Messenger. Check it > out > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live helps you keep up with all your friends, in one place. > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9660826 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090629/5f02 > 8d28/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:26:49 -0700 > From: "Barry & Shirley Lafbery" <lafbery at telus.net> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1939 Rover 16 > To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <314FA17A5E894AB7B825DD89423267C6 at ChloePC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > OK guys, > Own up, who bought the 1939 Rover 16 from the Edmonton auction. > I bid several thousand dollars and still did not get it. > I would have loved to have that car as I know it's history from when a > friend of mine bought it with him when he emigrated to Canada in 1964 and > how it carried him and his family across Canada to Edmonton. > He would have loved to know it was still around but he passed away a few > years ago. > > Barry > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:04:13 -0400 > From: Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Peripheral pictures > To: ROVERNET <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP68FAC074376A32660D7F8C91310 at phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I'm in two minds about posting these pictures -- they don't relate > directly > to Rovers, as I took them on the way to and from Dirk's famous event in > Fitchburg. > > But on the assumption that Rovers don't exist in a vacuum, and that most > Rover aficionados will be at least somewhat interested in other things > technical and historical, here they are: > > http://www.roverclub.org/ra09/ra09pics1.htm > > > Cheers, > > -- Bill D. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:08:59 -0400 > From: Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Peripheral pictures - corrected > link > To: ROVERNET <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP6666636A47BFFA7F70BD4B91310 at phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Sorry about that, it should have been > > http://www.roverclub.org/ra09/ra09pics3.htm > > > -- Bill D. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:25:40 -0400 > From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Peripheral pictures - > corrected link > To: magnet at roverclub.org, "The original list for Rover car > enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <4A496994.1080000 at comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Magnet wrote: >> Sorry about that, it should have been >> >> http://www.roverclub.org/ra09/ra09pics3.htm >> >> >> -- Bill D. > > Bill, > > These were of interest to me because Rouses Point and Bellows Falls were > major places on the old Rutland Railway. The main route of the railroad > ran > from Bellows Falls north to Rouses Point by way of several bridges and > causeways crossing Lake Champlain. From Rouses Point, it struck out almost > due west to Ogdensburg, NY where it terminated on the St. > Lawrence. You must have pretty well paralleled this route on your way from > Toronto to Fitchburg. Here are a couple of maps. > > http://users.rcn.com/jimdu4/system.htm > > The Rutland has long been an interest of mine. It was a very picturesque > old > road with passenger and milk train operations going through a number of > lovely little towns. Over the years, the railroad had to survive hard > times > and floods to continue operating. I have several books about the Rutland > and > have amassed a pretty good collection of H.O.scale model railroad > equipment > for that road name. > > Thanks for the pics. > > Glen > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > End of Rovernet Digest, Vol 12, Issue 51 > **************************************** > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.1/2211 - Release Date: 06/30/09 11:37:00 ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:51:59 EDT From: Pjemail at aol.com Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] My trip to the US and Canada To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Message-ID: <cff.58e29ee7.377be2ff at aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I know it is rather short notice but I will be travelling to the US and Canada on Thursday and I may have some spare room/weight allowance for any parts which any of you North American Rover owners might want. This would present a good opportunity to save on shipping costs. I will be able to mail things from the US or Canada depending on where the recipient is. There is a limit of course to what can be brought, so no requests for engine blocks! My journey will take me from New York via Toronto, Chicago, Salt Lake City, Astoria (OR), San Francisco, LA to Las Vegas, so I may get an opportunity to meet some of you. Kent, I still have a small part you had sent to me; shall I bring it with me and mail it to you? Regards, Pierre Janusz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Pullen) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:53:23 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 16 In-Reply-To: <30C16185FA7B43329347BA83CA3FEB7A@qv.local> References: <7CC8BBB1DD4245418A5CF03C61AD0E12@DirkPC2> <30C16185FA7B43329347BA83CA3FEB7A@qv.local> Message-ID: <76BCAF8E80BFAC4BAD58AD4F30A20572A78652@serverqv1.qv.local> The P2Per's did not buy. We have way too many Rovers for common cents. Leighton (Leigh) Pullen, CFA President & Chief Investment Officer QV Investors Inc. 1008 Livingston Place, South Tower 222 - 3rd Avenue SW Calgary, AB, Canada T2P 0B4 Ph: 403.265.7007 x 240 Fx: 403.266.6524 www.qvinvestors.com -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:30 PM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 16 Hi Dirk, I also bid up to $5000 and the auctioneer also told me that he thought it went to some one local so you could be right about the Peking to Paris couple. I think Eric may have a contact email for them. I am almost certain that that is the car a friend of mine and an ex RCCC member Ted Evans (passed away a few years ago) bought from the UK with him and his family. They came by ship and landed at Montreal and drove across Canada to Edmonton in 1964. When they moved to BC he sold the car to a neighbour and told me many times how he regretted selling the car. He wrote quite a story about the trip in the Roverview back in the 90s. Barry > > Hi Barry, > > I put a bid up to $5000 but the car sold for $8500. I spoke to the > auctioneer who is a good guy and he promised to email me the contact > details of the buyers. He did tell me they were from Edmonton and a > husband and wife team which makes me wonder if it was the Peking to > Paris couple who drove the Rover 12. > > I will keep you posted > > Dirk > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > On > Behalf Of rovernet-request at rovernet.ca > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:00 PM > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 12, Issue 51 > > Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to rovernet at rovernet.ca > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > rovernet-request at rovernet.ca > > You can reach the person managing the list at > rovernet-owner at rovernet.ca > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than > "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..." > > > Please edit your digest reply by changing the subject line to the > topic to which you are referring. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: 3500 S Has Gotta go.. (Dennis Brooks) > 2. 1939 Rover 16 (Barry & Shirley Lafbery) > 3. Peripheral pictures (Magnet) > 4. Peripheral pictures - corrected link (Magnet) > 5. Re: Peripheral pictures - corrected link (Glen Wilson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:20:44 -0300 > From: Dennis Brooks <goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500 S Has Gotta go.. > To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <COL114-W210111E8A446F73EC95DAEDE300 at phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > > The car is in waterford New Brunswick , Canada...just outside of the > town of Sussex.. > > > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:33:17 -0700 > From: rovertcv8 at yahoo.com > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500 S Has Gotta go.. > > > > > > Good Morning, > Where are you located? > David > > > > > From: Dennis Brooks <goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com> > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 8:23:21 AM > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500 S Has Gotta go.. > > > > Due to lack of storage room I have to part with my "rolling" 3500s > parts/spares car...it is actually restorable and has been sitting in a > shelter for the past 4 years or so...I am more interested in seeing it > find > a good home than the $$$ ...so any offer could be considered reasonable > but > this car needs to be towed or flat bed ...and it must be quite soon. > I also am in possesion of a LOT of good spare parts like doors /water > pumps > /dashes/ etc...that I will sell very reasonably. > > > > Create a cool, new character for your Windows Live? 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Check it > out > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live helps you keep up with all your friends, in one place. > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9660826 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090629/ 5f02 > 8d28/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:26:49 -0700 > From: "Barry & Shirley Lafbery" <lafbery at telus.net> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1939 Rover 16 > To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <314FA17A5E894AB7B825DD89423267C6 at ChloePC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > OK guys, > Own up, who bought the 1939 Rover 16 from the Edmonton auction. > I bid several thousand dollars and still did not get it. > I would have loved to have that car as I know it's history from when a > friend of mine bought it with him when he emigrated to Canada in 1964 and > how it carried him and his family across Canada to Edmonton. > He would have loved to know it was still around but he passed away a few > years ago. > > Barry > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:04:13 -0400 > From: Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Peripheral pictures > To: ROVERNET <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP68FAC074376A32660D7F8C91310 at phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I'm in two minds about posting these pictures -- they don't relate > directly > to Rovers, as I took them on the way to and from Dirk's famous event in > Fitchburg. > > But on the assumption that Rovers don't exist in a vacuum, and that most > Rover aficionados will be at least somewhat interested in other things > technical and historical, here they are: > > http://www.roverclub.org/ra09/ra09pics1.htm > > > Cheers, > > -- Bill D. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:08:59 -0400 > From: Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Peripheral pictures - corrected > link > To: ROVERNET <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP6666636A47BFFA7F70BD4B91310 at phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Sorry about that, it should have been > > http://www.roverclub.org/ra09/ra09pics3.htm > > > -- Bill D. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:25:40 -0400 > From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Peripheral pictures - > corrected link > To: magnet at roverclub.org, "The original list for Rover car > enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <4A496994.1080000 at comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Magnet wrote: >> Sorry about that, it should have been >> >> http://www.roverclub.org/ra09/ra09pics3.htm >> >> >> -- Bill D. > > Bill, > > These were of interest to me because Rouses Point and Bellows Falls were > major places on the old Rutland Railway. The main route of the railroad > ran > from Bellows Falls north to Rouses Point by way of several bridges and > causeways crossing Lake Champlain. From Rouses Point, it struck out almost > due west to Ogdensburg, NY where it terminated on the St. > Lawrence. You must have pretty well paralleled this route on your way from > Toronto to Fitchburg. Here are a couple of maps. > > http://users.rcn.com/jimdu4/system.htm > > The Rutland has long been an interest of mine. It was a very picturesque > old > road with passenger and milk train operations going through a number of > lovely little towns. Over the years, the railroad had to survive hard > times > and floods to continue operating. I have several books about the Rutland > and > have amassed a pretty good collection of H.O.scale model railroad > equipment > for that road name. > > Thanks for the pics. > > Glen > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > End of Rovernet Digest, Vol 12, Issue 51 > **************************************** > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.1/2211 - Release Date: 06/30/09 11:37:00 _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Jun 30 20:21:58 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:21:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] My trip to the US and Canada Message-ID: <488844.46691.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Pierre, There's always a free bed in Vancouver .......... anytime......... ? Eric ? Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ Webmaster of a variety of sites from: http://www.websrus.ca --- On Tue, 6/30/09, Pjemail at aol.com <Pjemail at aol.com> wrote: From: Pjemail at aol.com <Pjemail at aol.com> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] My trip to the US and Canada To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Received: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 2:51 PM I know it is rather short notice but I will be travelling to the US and Canada on Thursday and I may have some spare room/weight allowance for any parts which any of you North American Rover owners might want. This would present a good opportunity to save on shipping costs. I will be able to mail things from the US or Canada depending on where the recipient is. There is a limit of course to what can be brought, so no requests for engine blocks! ? My journey will take me from New York via Toronto, Chicago, Salt Lake City, Astoria (OR), San Francisco, LA to Las Vegas, so I may get an opportunity to meet some of you. ? Kent, I still have a small part you had sent to me; shall I bring it with me and mail it to you? ? Regards, ? Pierre Janusz -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A lot of MG owners there who might be interested in the V8 engine if not the whole car. If this is okay please give me a location of the car, email and phone number Regards Ben Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live helps you keep up with all your friends, in one place. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9660826 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090630/1f5de295/attachment.html> From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Tue Jun 30 21:12:39 2009 From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:12:39 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Magstar lug nuts In-Reply-To: <4A4A62DA.9060607@att.net> References: <4A4A62DA.9060607@att.net> Message-ID: <4A4AB807.8040103@alum.swarthmore.edu> Hi Kent, I asked you about Magstar lug nuts -- though of course someone else may have done so too. I'll check to see what I've got so far, and will let you know how many I "need". I'm looking to collect the remaining hardware for a second set of Magstars, so someone else may have a more immediate need. Thanks, Steve Kent Kinard wrote: > Hi Netters, > Someone at Fitchburg was looking for Magstar lug nuts. I have ten new > ones and also at least as many good used. > > Roverly, > Kent K. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > From kkinard at att.net Tue Jun 30 21:50:54 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:50:54 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P6 underbonnet stickers In-Reply-To: <4A4A63CA.6050707@att.net> References: <4A4A63CA.6050707@att.net> Message-ID: <4A4AC0FE.5060508@att.net> Kent Kinard wrote: > Hi Netters, > I have also found a large selection of under bonnet stickers for P6 > and P6B. Let me know your needs. Thank you to all who inquired. I will be at the shop again Saturday and will post availability of each item to you individually. I should have most of them. Prices will be discounted approximately 30% from UK prices, plus you save on postage. I'd give them away, but I have to pay for my trip to Fitchburg:-) Paypal is fine. Roverly, Kent K. From david at davidwalter.net Tue Jun 30 22:26:48 2009 From: david at davidwalter.net (David Walter) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:26:48 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P6 underbonnet stickers In-Reply-To: <4A4AC0FE.5060508@att.net> References: <4A4A63CA.6050707@att.net> <4A4AC0FE.5060508@att.net> Message-ID: <63A32F2CE47042E3A7C758547AF80730@DavidVista> hi Kent, do you have the big red sticker for the top of the radiator cowling ? part No. 371018 David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at att.net> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P6 underbonnet stickers > Kent Kinard wrote: >> Hi Netters, >> I have also found a large selection of under bonnet stickers for P6 and >> P6B. Let me know your needs. > Thank you to all who inquired. I will be at the shop again Saturday and > will post availability of each item to you individually. I should have > most of them. > > Prices will be discounted approximately 30% from UK prices, plus you save > on postage. I'd give them away, but I have to pay for my trip to > Fitchburg:-) Paypal is fine. > > Roverly, > Kent K. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/