[ROVERNET - UK] P6 Brakes - even more ??s

Mon Feb 4 21:16:01 GMT 2008

Eric
 You may be right ,it could be the sensible way to go after all ; but this is no longer a simple ?  maintenance project . It has 
turned into a man vs. machine grudge match , with tribal over tones . My home town is all of 15 miles from Solihull and we never 
ever trusted "them from Brumagem [ Birmingham }"to get anything  right  , including motor cars . "They "built Austin 7s "we" built 
Sunbeams , Stars , Clynos and all sorts of other splendidly engineered motors , none of which survived the Gt Depression .
The differential WILL come off !! Remember Mallory who,when asked why he wanted to climb Everest, said " Because it's there " At the 
moment I feel like the doomed Captain Oates who said " I'm going outside , and may be some little time "
watch this space .
 Cheers
 Patrick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 1:26 AM
Subject: RE: [ROVERNET - UK] P6 Brakes - even more ??s


> Yes, Patrick may have to reconsider removing the
> halfshafts and remove the calipers (usually in a pair
> as one brake hose doesn't want to come off)as an
> assembly.
>
> Eric
>
> --- Ray Wilkins <raymond.wilkins at bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>> I think we should have a separate discussion group
>> just for P6 rear brakes!
>> After having done it once, on my back with minimal
>> clearance and not
>> removing the drive shafts from the diff I will say
>> that 'yes' it can be done
>> but with many a cuss and plenty of black stuff
>> dropping onto the face etc.
>> Oh how I wish I had either a hoist or a pit - and
>> I'm seriously thinking
>> about the latter. There is no easy or right way.
>> Just take your time and try
>> to remain patient - and try to ensure there is
>> no-one nearby who is easily
>> offending by bad language! I do have to say that I
>> would not have had the
>> courage to attempt this job without the advise
>> offered by members of this
>> group. Thank you.
>>
>> Ray Wilkins
>> 1976 P6B
>> Melbourne Australia
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com
>> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com] On Behalf
>> Of Geff McCarthy
>> Sent: Monday, 4 February 2008 4:19 PM
>> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
>> Subject: RE: [ROVERNET - UK] P6 Brakes - even more
>> ??s
>>
>> I have removed the rear brakes several times without
>> disassembling the diff.
>> Disassemble as much as you can: remove handbrake,
>> take out pads, remove
>> lines. If I remember correctly the right side brake
>> can be slid off and
>> around first, then the left. I think I have left the
>> flexible connecting
>> hose installed, as it is hard to install once the
>> brakes are back on. Not
>> easy, but a lot easier than dropping the diff and
>> half shafts.
>>
>> AvMedSafe
>> Geff and Julie McCarthy
>> 677 NW Melinda Ave
>> Portland OR 97210
>> 503-241-8468
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>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com
>> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com] On Behalf
>> Of phing
>> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 8:01 PM
>> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
>> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] P6 Brakes - even more
>> ??s
>>
>> Hi Guys
>>  Yes I had found the locking tabs , and flattened
>> them  before my cry for
>> help . I bought a Canadian Tire breaker bar this
>> afternoon
>> , but had trouble getting it into position . I would
>> have done better if I
>> had access to a lift . I finally shifted 4 of the
>> nuts
>> with a combination of heat and the impact wrench . I
>> will try Ruth's trick
>> of a big hammer and a drift tomorrow .
>>  As an aside can any one explain why some E Bay
>> vendors will not ship
>> outside of the continental USA . Canada is only just
>> the other
>> side of the " world's longest undefended border " We
>> are supposed to have
>> free trade agreement , which in theory should work
>> both
>> ways ?
>> Cheers
>>  Patrick
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
>> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 6:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] P6 Brakes - even more
>> ??s
>>
>>
>> > That's an excellent tip for a "first-timer".
>> > Otherwise, "No way, Jose".
>> >
>> > Eric
>> >
>> > --- Netspace <vmitps at netspace.net.au> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Presumably you lifted the tabs?
>> >> I have never had any real trouble.
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "phing" <phing at videotron.ca>
>> >> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
>> >> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 5:04 PM
>> >> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] P6 Brakes - even more
>> ??s
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Hi
>> >> > I've decided to remove the diff to get at the
>> rear
>> >> brakes . I can't move
>> >> > the bolts securing the drive shafts to the
>> discs .
>> >> So far I've used
>> >> > penetrating oils , extensions on socket wrench
>> >> ratchets , and a DeWalt
>> >> > electric impact wrench,   with no results .
>> What's
>> >> the next step ? Heat ,
>> >> > it's a bit close to the fuel pump and piping ?
>> >> Clever applied violence
>> >> > using jacks and ring spanners ?? Is it possible
>> to
>> >> shear the bolts if I
>> >> > try too hard ?
>> >> > As  always any advice will be welcome
>> >> > Cheers
>> >> > Patrick
>> >> >
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