[ROVERNET - UK] P5 Windshield, request for removal tips

[Kent Kinard]

Hi Geoff,

Thank you for the suggestion, but the P5 really is a different animal.  
There is no question of trying to save the seal.  Trim strips on the 
early P5's (possibly only Mk. I's) are plated steel rather than 
stainless and the plating will crack and peel when you try to remove the 
trim.  Underneath the trim strips are dozens of metal retainers attached 
through the rubber seal with Phillips screws, most of which are severely 
rusted in place and defy removal.  Once you get these out, you can cut 
away as much of the rubber seal as possible, but the screen will still 
be stuck like it was welded in.  I use a cutting wire to saw behind the 
glass, but there are some critical areas that won't allow the wire to 
pass.  I have broken two screens after having them 90% loose. 

I talked to Dirk today and he advised soaking the rubber in kerosene to 
soften and decompose it and break the bond with the screen.  I have some 
rubber that you couldn't cut with a laser so I may try a couple of 
months of soaking.  Dirk also advises numbering the steel retainers 
since they deform and placing one in the wrong position can stress the 
screen once everything is in place.  Did I mention that there are 
several different retainers used on the same screen and retainers for 
front screens differ from some rears.  I would put P5 screen removal and 
installation up there with P6 rear brakes on the frustration meter.

 And then there's the P5 dashboard....installed by left handed miniature 
monkeys with twice the screws necessary...a real quality piece but....

Roveremovedly,
Kent K.

Geoff Kirkpatrick wrote:
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> I don't have experience with a P5 windshield, but when I have removed windshields from other cars I find it easiest to sacrifice the rubber seal and simply cut all the way around with a utility knife.  Especially if you are removing a windshield from a parts car, there is no need to try to preserve the integrity of the old seal.  This makes removing the windshield intact a pretty simple proposition.
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> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:09:30 -0500
> From: Kent Kinard <kentkinard at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] P5 Windshield, request for removal tips
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> Hi Gordon,
> I hesitated to respond because I won't have time to take one out in the 
> next few months.  These windscreens are extremely difficult to remove 
> and I have broken two while trying to be very careful.  I want to put 
> the Sundym glass from my Mk. III into my Mk. II when I replace the 
> rubber and that means I have to successfully remove both for you to get 
> one.  I have another in a Mk. I parts car which has a repairable rock 
> chip.  I have doubts about getting that one out whole.
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> I'd be interested on any tips on successfully removing a P5 saloon 
> windscreen when the rubber is really rock hard (thirty-five years of 
> Texas sun).
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