[ROVERNET - UK] People who buy Rovers

Eric Russell p6rovers at yahoo.com
Mon Apr 7 06:14:52 BST 2008


Have you seen *this* write-up?
Eric

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeDion_axle>


--- phing <phing at videotron.ca> wrote:

> Glen
> Rover never built an " estate car ' If one had an "
> estate ' one had a fleet of Land Rovers and a staff
> to ferry one and one's 
> guests, guns etc  to the shootin' and tow the hoss
> boxes to the  huntin ' The peons rode their Rover
> safety bicycles to their 
> duties.Rover eventually introduced the Range Rover
> for the nouveau riche owner driver , the sort of
> feller  who probably drove 
> vulgar Jaguars on the road
>  Setriously my 122S Volvo with a Ruddspeed
> performance package  was cheaper , faster , better
> built, had more  interior room and a 
> bigger trunk, than a P6  .It was a great rally car ,
> mine was hammered unmercifully and wouldn't break
> .For its era it was as good 
> looking as the P6 . Sticking the spare wheel on the
> trunk lid didn't help the P6's looks or rearward 
> vision .It did emphasise the 
> Land Rover connection
> I never saw the point of the De Dion axle , all the
> complications of IRS and none of the advantages . It
> was effectively most of  a 
> well located solid axle  , with  disc brakes hidden
> inboard and  the added confusion a sliding joint.
> The Volvo had a well located 
> solid axle , no sliding joint ,  accesible outboard
> disc brakes and an intelligent hand brake . You
> could argue abstruse benefits of 
> reduced %unsprung weight , but this was not apparent
> in real life .
> Cheers
>  patrick
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Glen Wilson" <rovercar at comcast.net>
> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 11:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] People who buy Rovers
> 
> 
> > phing wrote:
> >> Glen
> >> It's a pity Rover didn't invest in competent
> dealers who were equally , "interesting , stylish
> and better appointed" . The 
> >> Toronto Rover shop in the 60s was manned by a
> bunch of effettee pseudo " English gents ' who
> looked down on the punters who 
> >> fought their way through the pottted palms to see
> the ' motors ' .Their  general attitude was  " One
> invests in a Wover , one 
> >> doesn't need to test drive a superior motor. A
> gentleman does not discuss price ; one's man looks
> after such sordid details "
> >> Their incompetence, Rover's evil reputation for
> variable quality control  and the ridiculous size of
> the P6 trunk were the 
> >> reasons I bought two brick out house Volvos in
> the 60s
> >> Cheers
> >> Patrick
> >
> > Well, I don't think the P6 trunk was
> "ridiculously" small. If you want to give up the
> styling or and the DeDion rear suspension, 
> > you can have a bigger trunk. It's possible to
> design a good-looking car with a big trunk, but
> there are trade-offs. The original 
> > P4 boot was vastly more sexy than the later P4
> rear end.
> >
> > Besides, Patrick, you man will load the fitted
> luggage for you anyway, so why complain?
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> > Offering a model line for sale in the United
> States in 1960's without a station wagon (estate)
> probably indicated that Rover was 
> > just trying to sell a few cars as a boutique
> marque rather than making a serious attempt to sell
> a lot of cars in the USA.  Rover 
> > automobiles actually sold pretty well in the USA
> given the small amount of effort Rover invested in
> the undertaking.
> >
> > And, of course, you could buy a lot of car in the
> USA for the $4300 Rover wanted for the sporty new
> 3500S by 1969. The Pontiac GTO 
> > hardtop sold for a base price of $3,080 in 1969. 
> The convertible model sold at a base price of
> $3,553. For a lot of Americans, 
> > that was not quite even a no-brainer. The Buick
> Electra 225 was about equal in price to the 3500S at
> $4,400, if you wanted luxury 
> > and trunk space!
> >
> > Glen
> >
> > Glen
> >
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