[ROVERNET - UK] P6s in USA
Dirk Burrowes
dirk at vy-tek.com
Thu Oct 11 04:01:42 BST 2007
Hi Rudiger,
Feel free to give Craig my name and email I have several P6s that might suit
him.
Dirk
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[ROVERNET-UK]
Today's Topics:
1. Re: Re:Rough running SD1 (Glen Wilson)
2. Rover P6 in Canada (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
3. Re: SV: [ROVERNET - UK] Re:Rough running SD1 (Kent Kinard)
4. RE: Re:Rough running SD1 (Lewis, Joseph (Michael))
5. Re: Rover P6 in Canada (Brooks)
6. Re: Rover P6 in Canada (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
7. Re: P5 (David Read)
8. Re: Re:Rough running SD1 (Kent Kinard)
9. Re: P5 (Kent Kinard)
10. RE: P5 (Winchester, Miles)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:08:10 -0400
From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Re:Rough running SD1
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Oh, yeah..
Michael, sometimes that Turmeric paint ionizes the atmosphere around the
car causing odd combustion problems.
;-)
Glen
Lewis, Joseph (Michael) wrote:
> Thanks all. A lot of good info.
>
> J. Michael Lewis
>
>
> 1980 SD1 turmeric
> 1980 SD1 aqua
>
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:57:54 +0200
From: <RoverP6 at gmx.de>
Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Rover P6 in Canada
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I just got this request:
"Dear Rudiger, I live in Toronto, Canada. Do you know of any P6's in Canada
or the U.S.A. which are
in good shape and
might be for sale in the near future? Best Regards, Craig"
Any offer / idea?
I would forward replies to Craig.
Thanks
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:41:36 -0500
From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at wcc.net>
Subject: Re: SV: [ROVERNET - UK] Re:Rough running SD1
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Hi Jan,
I assume you are using the fuel injection system that came
on the 1988 Range Rover and that the ECU is the "4CU" type
in use in the UK at that time. This system has many
similarities to the 4CU system used on NAS SD1's but one
major difference. The NAS ECU's were made to work with
catalytic converters (I think that is true of the
Australian market cars as well). The NAS ECU's will not
work on UK/Euro systems without cats. Other than that,
the faults are the same.
Yes, you may use a points type distributor as a substitute
for your electronic unit provided you also use the points
type coil and ballast resistor (or suitable resistance
wire). I have run K&N filters on the 4CU system in the
past with no problems.
Roverly,
Kent K.
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:15:47 +0200
<jan.tillberg at sqc.se> wrote:
> Hi there everyone!
>
> I have the similar problem with my EFI. I put a
>rangerover 3,5 l V8 from 1988 into my -73 P6. Perhaps I
>was asking for trouble.. Anyway, It has a week idle, runs
>unevenly and sometimes weak. I've put a K&N airfilter -
>so perhaps it gives to little resistance? I will test
>the system according to your advices.
>
> My question is: Can I use an old contact breaker
>distributor to compare with the electronic one? Or will
>something in the ECU finally have had it?
>
> I heard that the EFI is basically the same as the Bosch
>fuel injection found in 1988 Volvos - anyone knows what
>parts are interchangable?
>
> I have never run the engine before I bought it but it's
>restored mechanically.
> Cheers
>
> Jan Tillberg
>
> Stockholm Sweden
>
>
>
> -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
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>[mailto:rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com] Fvr Dermot
>Harvey
> Skickat: den 10 oktober 2007 16:42
> Till: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> Dmne: [ROVERNET - UK] Re:Rough running SD1
>
> My first guess would be partially clogged fuel
>injectors, but it's worth checking your fuel line
>pressure first. Find an old mechanical oil pressure
>gauge. Depressurize the system and attach the oil
>pressure gauge to the cold start fuel injector. Take the
>hose from the air filter to the airflow meter off. Stick
>a rag in the airflow meter. This will turn on the fuel
>pump when the ignition is on. You should get a steady
>reading of about 40 psi. Turn the ignition off and watch
>how slowly the pressure drops - the longer it takes the
>better.
> If your fuel pressure is OK you should remove the fuel
>injectors and test them for flow rate and spray pattern.
>This is a messy procedure.
> I have a test rig using an old fuel pump and pressure
>regulator. The injectors should deliver 125 to 150 ml per
>minute and you should have a conical spray pattern. You
>might be able to find a shop that has testing and
>cleaning equipment for fuel injectors. Sometimes the
>injectors can be cleaned.If not you can buy new or
>rebuilt ones.
> Before you put everything back together, be sure your
>fuel filters are reasonably new and carefully check the
>rubber fuel lines. If there is any sign of checking or
>cracking you should replace the rubber lines making sure
>only to use high pressure fuel injection hose.
> The other possibility is that your ignition module is
>faulty. I think by now most people are using Lumenition
>or Pertronix modules, but if you have the original module
>inside the distributor it has probably about had it.
>
> Good Luck!
>
> Dermot Harvey
> Spectral Kinetics
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:44:42 -0400
From: "Lewis, Joseph \(Michael\)" <jLewis at wsscwater.com>
Subject: RE: [ROVERNET - UK] Re:Rough running SD1
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Everybody's a funny man.
Hey everybody; Glen's got jokes!!!
J. Michael Lewis
1980 SD1 turmeric
1980 SD1 aqua
Oh, yeah..
Michael, sometimes that Turmeric paint ionizes the atmosphere around the
car causing odd combustion problems.
;-)
Glen
Lewis, Joseph (Michael) wrote:
> Thanks all. A lot of good info.
>
> J. Michael Lewis
>
>
> 1980 SD1 turmeric
> 1980 SD1 aqua
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:37:47 -0300
From: "Brooks" <restore at nbnet.nb.ca>
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Rover P6 in Canada
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I will have one for sale very soon plus a full array of spare parts..
He can email @ restore at nbnet.nb.ca
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Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Rover P6 in Canada
>
> I just got this request:
>
> "Dear Rudiger, I live in Toronto, Canada. Do you know of any P6's in
> Canada or the U.S.A. which are in good shape and
> might be for sale in the near future? Best Regards, Craig"
>
>
> Any offer / idea?
>
> I would forward replies to Craig.
>
> Thanks
>
> Rudiger
> www.RoverP6.info
>
>
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:43:44 +0200
From: <RoverP6 at gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Rover P6 in Canada
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Will forward your message to Craig
Thanks
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info
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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Oktober 2007 21:37
Betreff: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Rover P6 in Canada
>I will have one for sale very soon plus a full array of spare parts..
>
> He can email @ restore at nbnet.nb.ca
>
>
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> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 2:57 PM
> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Rover P6 in Canada
>
>
>>
>> I just got this request:
>>
>> "Dear Rudiger, I live in Toronto, Canada. Do you know of any P6's in
Canada or the U.S.A. which
>> are in good shape and
>> might be for sale in the near future? Best Regards, Craig"
>>
>>
>> Any offer / idea?
>>
>> I would forward replies to Craig.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Rudiger
>> www.RoverP6.info
>>
>>
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:30:59 +0930
From: David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au>
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] P5
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Oops, sorry. I did have a vague impression that the NAS units may have
been different ...
With both my SD1 and Rangie, I mounted the amplifier remotely with a kit
and shielded leads to keep it out of the hot radiator air blast.
Problems ceased.
The grey cell that held the information on the kit I used has since died
(along with many of his mates), sorry.
The unit is pictured, lower left, here in the Rangie...
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~defender110@ozemail.com.au/mypage/images/airp
ump.JPG
I eventually solved all the SD1 problems by replacing the
* ECU
* Air flap intake sensor
* injector ballast resistor box
by fitting a Haltech digital fuel control unit.
Oh yes ... replacing the Federal flat pleneum with a *real* plenum and
an attached 4.6L made a little difference as well.
;-)
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
Kent Kinard wrote:
> Joseph may be confused by David's comment about the ingnition amplifier
> module. NAS distributors have the amplifier mounted inside the
> distributor...bad idea. If this goes bad you must replace the
> distributor. You can use a later distributor with the external module
> or use another distributor..Mallory, Buick, MSD, etc. Some Rover
> modules are mounted on the outside of the distributor and some are
> mounted on the fender well (inner wing).
<snip>
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:16:49 -0500
From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at wcc.net>
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Re:Rough running SD1
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We have tried to adjust to Glen's sense of humor for
years...without much success...but we'll keep trying:-)
Roverepostedly,
Kent K.
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:44:42 -0400
"Lewis, Joseph \(Michael\)" <jLewis at wsscwater.com>
wrote:
> Everybody's a funny man.
>
> Hey everybody; Glen's got jokes!!!
>
> J. Michael Lewis
>
>
> 1980 SD1 turmeric
> 1980 SD1 aqua
>
>
> Oh, yeah..
>
> Michael, sometimes that Turmeric paint ionizes the
>atmosphere around the
>
> car causing odd combustion problems.
>
> ;-)
>
> Glen
>
>
>
> Lewis, Joseph (Michael) wrote:
>> Thanks all. A lot of good info.
>>
>> J. Michael Lewis
>>
>>
>> 1980 SD1 turmeric
>> 1980 SD1 aqua
>>
>>
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:31:52 -0500
From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at wcc.net>
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] P5
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> I eventually solved all the SD1 problems by replacing
>the
> * ECU
> * Air flap intake sensor
> * injector ballast resistor box
> by fitting a Haltech digital fuel control unit.
>
> Oh yes ... replacing the Federal flat pleneum with a
>*real* plenum and an attached 4.6L made a little
>difference as well.
> ;-)
>
> Cheers
> Dave
> South Oz
Dave has a sense of humor, too.
I am nearing completion of a long term project (insanity?)
5.1 litre/ST400 (dual stall converter) in SD1. Have
eliminated all problems ahead of firewall...iron block and
heads, no A/C, 600cfm Carter carb, HEI dizzy, Corvette
radiator,four pot calipers, vented discs and MANUAL rack.
I will need the forearms of a gorilla to steer it, but
all the roads in west Texas are straight, right?
Does anyone have a decent set of SD1 carpet?
Roverly,
Kent K.
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:01:39 +1000
From: "Winchester, Miles" <Miles.Winchester at ArvinMeritor.com>
Subject: RE: [ROVERNET - UK] P5
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Hi Kent,
Sounds like you have created a monster :). I have the blue carpet put
aside and possibly a better match for your car is the dark brown carpet
but it is still in the 2300S parts car. If you can't come up with
anything locally I can send this over next year,
Cheers Miles
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