[ROVERNET - UK] Dry carbs, gas line
Alice and Ian Potts
ianalice at shaw.ca
Mon Sep 18 19:19:51 BST 2006
Try disconnecting main feed from the reserve valve, and blow back to the
tank (with compressed air, if you run out of mouth blow!) Clearing the
internal filter of the tank is sometimes possible by doing this. Removal of
the transmitter from the tank is the next step, after CAREFULLY
draining the tank into buckets. Don't use a filament globe trouble lamp for
this, as a broken bulb, and subsequent hot filament will immolate
everything, including you!
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. Re: Speedo fluctuations (Stephen Beer)
> 2. RE: Speedo fluctuations (Paul Smith)
> 3. Re: O.T. Norton Commando (Stephen Beer)
> 4. Re: O.T. Norton Commando (sspmilr at netzero.net)
> 5. 2000 TC no fuel... (Nathan Obuch)
> 6. RE: 2000 TC no fuel... (Paul Smith)
> 7. RE: 2000 TC no fuel... (Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton)
> 8. Re: 2000 TC no fuel... (Eric Russell)
> 9. Re: Slats (Slatskars)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 20:46:37 -0500
> From: Stephen Beer <stephen at beerinc.com>
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Speedo fluctuations
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
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> Hello Peter,
>
> I used Tri-Flow sprayed liberally inside my Norton Commando's badly
> fluctuating and squealing tachometer ten years ago and it has been
> working ever since. I think the Teflon in it might help it have more
> staying power than WD-40.
>
> Stephen Beer
>
>
> On Sep 16, 2006, at 9:48 AM, Phil wrote:
>
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> I had the same problem with my 3500 speedo and followed all the same
>> suggestions that are repeated here. None worked. I finally partially
>> dismantled my speedo head and carefully applied WD40 to the bushes
>> inside.
>> This cured it. If all elso fails, why not...
>>
>> Philip Hodge
>> Bainbridge Island, WA
>> USA
>>
>> ***********************************************************************
>> ****
>>
>> From: <sspmilr at netzero.net>
>> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 8:13 AM
>> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] 1971 P6B NADA
>>
>>
>> Hi Roverists:
>>
>> Our speedometer is fluxuating wildly, at times at high speed. It has
>> never been rock solid stable from day one. It has always had a slight
>> fluxuation. Any ideas for a cure? Is there anyone who converts them
>> to an electric drive?
>>
>> Peter Miller
>> Arlington, Wa.
>> USA
>>
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:53:32 +1000
> From: "Paul Smith" <Paul.Smith at auroraenergy.com.au>
> Subject: RE: [ROVERNET - UK] Speedo fluctuations
> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
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> Is that a rubber isolated Commando, circa 73?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com
> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Beer
> Sent: Monday, 18 September 2006 11:47 am
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Speedo fluctuations
>
>
> Hello Peter,
>
> I used Tri-Flow sprayed liberally inside my Norton Commando's badly
> fluctuating and squealing tachometer ten years ago and it has been
> working ever since. I think the Teflon in it might help it have more
> staying power than WD-40.
>
> Stephen Beer
>
>
> On Sep 16, 2006, at 9:48 AM, Phil wrote:
>
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> I had the same problem with my 3500 speedo and followed all the same
>> suggestions that are repeated here. None worked. I finally partially
>> dismantled my speedo head and carefully applied WD40 to the bushes
>> inside.
>> This cured it. If all elso fails, why not...
>>
>> Philip Hodge
>> Bainbridge Island, WA
>> USA
>>
>> ***********************************************************************
>> ****
>>
>> From: <sspmilr at netzero.net>
>> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 8:13 AM
>> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] 1971 P6B NADA
>>
>>
>> Hi Roverists:
>>
>> Our speedometer is fluxuating wildly, at times at high speed. It has
>> never been rock solid stable from day one. It has always had a slight
>> fluxuation. Any ideas for a cure? Is there anyone who converts them
>> to an electric drive?
>>
>> Peter Miller
>> Arlington, Wa.
>> USA
>>
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:14:48 -0500
> From: Stephen Beer <stephen at beerinc.com>
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] O.T. Norton Commando
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
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> Hello Peter,
>
> All Commandos had the Isolastic rubber mountings.
>
> The earlier ones (including my '71 750) had to be adjusted with shims.
> Round about '73 they went to a vernier adjustment which I switched mine
> to.
> Much less klugy.
>
> A fussy, diabolical machine that sticks it's hand down the front of
> your trousers when the road gets curly.
>
> S>
>
>
> On Sep 17, 2006, at 7:53 PM, Paul Smith wrote:
>
>> Is that a rubber isolated Commando, circa 73?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com
>> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Beer
>> Sent: Monday, 18 September 2006 11:47 am
>> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
>> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Speedo fluctuations
>>
>>
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>> I used Tri-Flow sprayed liberally inside my Norton Commando's badly
>> fluctuating and squealing tachometer ten years ago and it has been
>> working ever since. I think the Teflon in it might help it have more
>> staying power than WD-40.
>>
>> Stephen Beer
>>
>>
>> On Sep 16, 2006, at 9:48 AM, Phil wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Peter,
>>>
>>> I had the same problem with my 3500 speedo and followed all the same
>>> suggestions that are repeated here. None worked. I finally partially
>>> dismantled my speedo head and carefully applied WD40 to the bushes
>>> inside.
>>> This cured it. If all elso fails, why not...
>>>
>>> Philip Hodge
>>> Bainbridge Island, WA
>>> USA
>>>
>>> **********************************************************************
>>> *
>>> ****
>>>
>>> From: <sspmilr at netzero.net>
>>> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 8:13 AM
>>> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] 1971 P6B NADA
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Roverists:
>>>
>>> Our speedometer is fluxuating wildly, at times at high speed. It has
>>> never been rock solid stable from day one. It has always had a slight
>>> fluxuation. Any ideas for a cure? Is there anyone who converts them
>>> to an electric drive?
>>>
>>> Peter Miller
>>> Arlington, Wa.
>>> USA
>>>
>>>
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>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 02:51:41 GMT
> From: "sspmilr at netzero.net" <sspmilr at netzero.net>
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] O.T. Norton Commando
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
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> Sounds like a "trill" ride to me!
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:00:56 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] 2000 TC no fuel...
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
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> Greetings, Rovernetters:
>
> I'm trying to get my '69 2000TC on the road so I
> can finally have my first Rover driving experience...I
> did some brake repairs, and now the darn thing won't
> run!
> I've discovered that there's no fuel getting to
> the carbs. Found a kind of funky hose on the suction
> side of the fuel pump (between the reserve tap valve
> and the pump.) Replaced that, new compression fittings
> and such, still no joy. Stuck a hose from the suction
> side of the pump into a glass of petrol --it runs fine
> and sucks the glass down in a hurry. (This is a late
> TC with the return line which recirculates excess fuel
> back to the tank.)
> At this point, I'm thinking that I have an air
> leak somewhere between the reserve tap and the tank,
> but what are the odds of BOTH the main & reserve lines
> having a leak? Is it possible that the reserve tap
> itself has an air leak? I will bypass it as my next
> step, I suppose.
> Final question: it seems that considering the
> position of the gas (petrol) tank and that the pickup
> is located on the bottom, gas would practically
> gravity feed out of there! Is that so?
> I'd be interested in any advice on this
> situation. I'm sure I can eventually sort it out
> myself (I mean, it's just a few bits of hose, a tank,
> a valve & a pump) but thought I'd check the
> collective wisdom of the Rovernet first to avoid
> reinventing the wheel.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Nathan
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:16:31 +1000
> From: "Paul Smith" <Paul.Smith at auroraenergy.com.au>
> Subject: RE: [ROVERNET - UK] 2000 TC no fuel...
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> Yes it gravity feeds to the pump when the car is level; it even gravity
> feeds to the carbs when the tank is full.
> First thing to check is the reserve tap itself; is the arm with the inner
> cable pointing in the same direction as either of the inlet hoses? If it
> is halfway between them, fuel flow is blocked.
> If that is clear and petrol is not leaking out somewhere, then it sounds
> like tank sludge is blocking the outlets.
>
> PVS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com
> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com]On Behalf Of Nathan Obuch
> Sent: Monday, 18 September 2006 2:01 pm
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] 2000 TC no fuel...
>
>
> Greetings, Rovernetters:
>
> I'm trying to get my '69 2000TC on the road so I
> can finally have my first Rover driving experience...I
> did some brake repairs, and now the darn thing won't
> run!
> I've discovered that there's no fuel getting to
> the carbs. Found a kind of funky hose on the suction
> side of the fuel pump (between the reserve tap valve
> and the pump.) Replaced that, new compression fittings
> and such, still no joy. Stuck a hose from the suction
> side of the pump into a glass of petrol --it runs fine
> and sucks the glass down in a hurry. (This is a late
> TC with the return line which recirculates excess fuel
> back to the tank.)
> At this point, I'm thinking that I have an air
> leak somewhere between the reserve tap and the tank,
> but what are the odds of BOTH the main & reserve lines
> having a leak? Is it possible that the reserve tap
> itself has an air leak? I will bypass it as my next
> step, I suppose.
> Final question: it seems that considering the
> position of the gas (petrol) tank and that the pickup
> is located on the bottom, gas would practically
> gravity feed out of there! Is that so?
> I'd be interested in any advice on this
> situation. I'm sure I can eventually sort it out
> myself (I mean, it's just a few bits of hose, a tank,
> a valve & a pump) but thought I'd check the
> collective wisdom of the Rovernet first to avoid
> reinventing the wheel.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Nathan
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:28:16 -0700
> From: "Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton" <smokeandsteam at san.rr.com>
> Subject: RE: [ROVERNET - UK] 2000 TC no fuel...
> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
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>>> it possible that the reserve tap
> itself has an air leak? I will bypass it as my next
> step, I suppose.<<
>
> Yes they can and do leak; usually this manifests as small puddles of
> petrol
> under the car. Air leaks probably wouldn't be big enough to inhibit flow
> without other symptoms (like petrol getting out when the air's not coming
> in)
>
> If you're getting no fuel and there's no noticeable fluid leak it sounds
> as
> if the lines are blocked, or that the reserve tap itself has got gummed up
> or out of alignment.
>
> Given the age of the car I would be inclined to replace all the fuel lines
> as a matter of course -they can get brittle over time. It would make sense
> to pull the tank and clean it as well
>
> Aidrian
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:29:55 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] 2000 TC no fuel...
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
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> Nathan,
> Firstly, take all safety precautions with
> gasoline/petrol.
>
> A large bag of Kitty Litter for spills.
> Fire extinguisher nearby (I have 2 in the garage).
> Containers to catch the fuel.
> Rags or paper towels.
>
> I have one of those inline gasoline siphons and 2 off
> 5 gallon red gas cans/tanks.
>
> Check the fuel gauge and siphon most of the gas into
> storage tanks (better than on the floor of your
> garage).
>
> There are two thick fuel lines running from the tank.
> One line is the reserve and one line is the main feed.
>
> You can undo the connection where the lines attach to
> the reserve switch and be sure the gasoline can flow
> easily out when held low down and into a container.
> Gasoline should flow easily out of each time.
>
> The reserve line come from a feed at the bottom of the
> tank but is protected by a nylon screen.
> The main line draws from higher up and has no screen.
>
> You could have debris in the tank which is blocking
> the pipes or the debris may be trapped in the main
> line as it may have got sucked up and into the pipe in
> the tank.
>
> You can undo the connections at the tank and blow air
> into the line (hand pump?) (garage air?) (portable
> air tank filled at a service station?). Perhaps you
> can blow out any strange material.
>
> I believe you said that you tested the operation of
> the fuel pump and it is pumping.
>
> Another test is to remove the connection where the
> fuel feed enters the top of the front float bowl.
> Place the fitting end into a tin or unbreakable
> container. This test assumes the fuel line are
> connected to the reserve tap again.
>
> Use the hand lever at the bottom of the pump to pump
> fuel into this tin. You should see a good flow each
> time you pump.
>
> Hope that gives you some more ideas.
>
> Eric
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:35:25 -0700
> From: "Slatskars" <slatskars at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Slats
> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
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>
> Hi Kent,
>
> Home now. I checked the returned/rejected email and it was indeed sent to
> your most current address kkinard at wcc.net. No idea why it was rejected. As
> stated earlier, I will work on the P-5 this week.
>
> Using the computers at the hotels was a little strange. The next time I
> will
> take my laptop along.
>
> Roving and confused.
>
> Slats
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at wcc.net>
> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 7:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Slats
>
>
>>I don't have anyone blocked, but this is the second time this has come up.
>>When you pull up a name in most address books, the oldest address may be
>>the one that comes up first.
>>
>> Eric had sent me three emails to my old address, which no longer works,
>> because he just pulled up my name from his address book without actually
>> looking to see if the address matched my latest posts. I have done the
>> same thing myself. It is harder to delete old addresses than it is to
>> add
>> new ones so I just leave the old one in there and trust my memory to know
>> the difference.
>>
>> Many folks have more than one active mailbox. When I send those people
>> emails, I often cc their other boxes, which doesn't help them at all, but
>> allows me to be more confident that the message will be delivered.
>>
>> What did you want to tell me? The kkinard at wcc.net is the current
>> address.
>>
>> Roverly,
>> Kent K.
>>
>> On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 00:26:05 -0400
>> Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> Slatskars wrote:
>>>> Kent,
>>>>
>>>> Tried to send you an email direct, but got "blacklisted"?? Do you have
>>>> me blocked or something?
>>>>
>>>> Slats
>>>
>>> Gosh! What a great idea!
>>>
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> Glen
>>>
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