[ROVERNET - UK] Rebuild approach for Ali

Dirk Burrowes dirk at vy-tek.com
Mon May 29 13:11:33 BST 2006


Hi Ali,

I have been working night and day to get a number of P6s both V8s and TCs
going.

I can tell you from experience after dealing with cars that basically have
not been running for years.

1) ALL brakes areas will need to be redone. Start with sending your Brake
boosters to be rebuilt. If you decide to do this call me or let me know and
I will give you a number for a rebuild in CA.

2) Front calipers will need new pistons and seals same with the rears. Also
you will need to replace the flexable brake lines. Either Ruth or JR Wadhams
will have these. Both are good people and it is not as expensive to ship
from the UK as everyone tells you. I do it almost every week now.

3) Remove and rebuild the fuel pump and clean lines and flush gas take.

4) Remove and carburetors and manifold. Send carbs to Joe Curto in NY
Have rebuilt replace manifold gasket or it WILL leak

5) Drain all fluids from motor and Trans replace filters.

6) Remove spark plugs squirt Marvel mystery oil in each cylinder try to
rotate engine by hand.

7) Drain antifreeze if any and flush with water by removing bottom hose.
Refill with water only.

8) Tear off the pieces of hanging muffler and exhaust pipe. When ordering
pay very careful attention to year of car as they changed the exhaust
components weekly at Rover.

Ok so far you are into the car for about $2000 if you have done what I
suggest. I have tried not to do all of the above before but I was just
delaying the inevitable so take this approach if you want to drive the car
this summer.

You are welcome to call me any time and I have a shipment coming from JR
Wadhams if you would like to get a small order in for some of your parts
needs. Ruth as Kent says is very good as well at ABC.

Good Luck
Dirk
978-502-2289

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[ROVERNET-UK]

Today's Topics:

   1.  Rover 3500S parts interchangeability (Ali Al-Abbasi)
   2. Re:  Rover 3500S parts interchangeability (Kent Kinard)
   3. RE:  Parts Catalogue Rover 2000 (Clyde Cook)
   4. Re:  Parts Catalogue Rover 2000 (Tom Total)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 22:37:32 -0400
From: "Ali Al-Abbasi" <alialabbasi at hotmail.com>
Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Rover 3500S parts interchangeability
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All, I'm about to get started in my effort to bring the 3500S back to life.
>From what I understand from the previous owner, he parked it after the
brake
master cylinder went out which would make sense as the car had no brakes
what so ever.

So now that I'm trying to bring it back I know that I will have to get parts
for it and probably at short notice.

So here are my questions:
1. What parts can be found at the local parts vendor for this car?
2. Are there any parts that are interchangeable with the BUICK 215?
3. Are there any parts that are interchangeable with the Land Rover or MG or
any other car so that in an effort to find a part, I can try the alternative
at the local world pac vendor.

Look forward to hearing from you.

Regards

Al





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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 22:45:45 -0500
From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at wcc.net>
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Rover 3500S parts interchangeability
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Hi Al,
Answers in order:

>1. What parts can be found at the local parts vendor for this car?
>  
>
Virtually none.  Any that are catalogued will be special order.  The 
exceptions are the Buick 215 interchanges below.

>2. Are there any parts that are interchangeable with the BUICK 215?
>  
>
Engine rebuild items are most likely to be available but only on special 
order.  Buick last used these engines in 1963.
Intake and exhaust valves, camshaft, timing chain set, lifters, cam 
bearings, pistons and rings (use lower compression) all interchange with 
Buick 215
A Buick water pump will bolt to the Rover front cover but uses a 
different fan hub.  Pistons are available from Silvolite.

>3. Are there any parts that are interchangeable with the Land Rover or MG
or
>any other car so that in an effort to find a part, I can try the
alternative
>at the local world pac vendor.
>  
>
Transmission rebuild components are available from Northwest 
Transmission and interchange with some some early AMC (Borg Warner 35).  
Some of the brake components will interchange with Ford(UK) and Jaguar, 
but it takes great parts knowledge to track these down (Ruth is a 
certified genius).  Window lift motors are identical to some Cadillacs 
from the same period.  The engine was used in Range Rover  '70-'94, Land 
Rover 90 and 110 (and briefly in 109's as the Stage 1), MGBV8-'74-'76, 
Rover SD1, Triumph TR8, so some components from these engines will 
interchange but generally only up to 1976. No other vehicle was 
officially imported with the P6B spec engine, so you must know the 
"family" to do much parts swapping.  Lucas electrical components are 
used by most British cars but it takes a whole book to determine 
interchanges.

Nothing comes quickly or easily for these cars as most components are 
unique.  James Dean, Dermot Harvey, Ruth Burgess are most likely to have 
parts on this continent. It's worth paying more to keep these folks in 
business.  There are several suppliers in the UK but freight is getting 
really expensive.  Parts ARE available.  I can't think of anything that 
is actually unobtainable, but you must be patient and be ready to spend 
far more money than the car will ever be worth.

Why don't we take this step by step and see what you actually need first.

Roverly,
Kent K.




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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 17:32:58 +1200
From: "Clyde Cook" <ccook at netaccess.co.nz>
Subject: RE: [ROVERNET - UK] Parts Catalogue Rover 2000
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Tom
There is a shop in Christchurch New Zealand that may have that
catalogue.
The last time I was looking through the Rover area I noticed some
catalogues on the 2000 model.
Next time I'm in Christchurch I'll have a look and see what's there.
It maybe 2 or 3 weeks time is this okay?
Clyde 

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Hello,

I am looking for the very first Rover 2000 Parts Catalogue # 4541,
issued in
October 1963.
Does anybody have one for sale?

Tom.


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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 11:56:15 +0200
From: "Tom Total" <tom-total at gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Parts Catalogue Rover 2000
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Hello Clyde,

that sounds great !!!
Many thanks !!!

Please give me a short note if they have it or buy it if it is not too
expensive (let's say about US$ 25).

Tom.


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> Tom
> There is a shop in Christchurch New Zealand that may have that
> catalogue.
> The last time I was looking through the Rover area I noticed some
> catalogues on the 2000 model.
> Next time I'm in Christchurch I'll have a look and see what's there.
> It maybe 2 or 3 weeks time is this okay?
> Clyde
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com] On Behalf Of Tom Total
> Sent: Saturday, 27 May 2006 11:43 a.m.
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Parts Catalogue Rover 2000
>
> Hello,
>
> I am looking for the very first Rover 2000 Parts Catalogue # 4541,
> issued in
> October 1963.
> Does anybody have one for sale?
>
> Tom.
>
>
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