[ROVERNET - UK] Re: Rover Person in Hemet

Joe Haslett innovplants at earthlink.net
Thu Apr 20 22:58:21 BST 2006


Hi, I did not properly title an earlier post, I am trying to reach a gentleman located I believe in Hemet, California. can you please respond off list.  
Thank you 
Joe Haslett

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>Today's Topics:
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>   1. Re:  Over - heating (Ali Al-Abbasi)
>   2. Re:  Magstars and Magnum 500's (Ted Holman)
>   3. Re:  Over - heating (Glen Wilson)
>   4.  Re: rovernet Digest, Vol 41, Issue 20 (Joe Haslett)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:35:34 -0400
>From: "Ali Al-Abbasi" <alialabbasi at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Over - heating
>To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
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>Do the sell Ken Lowe fans in the US?
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Ruotolo Gianluca (DD)" <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.it>
>To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
>Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 8:31 AM
>Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Over - heating
>
>
>
>In my opinion 93 C is a high temperature for a normal use, but, often, these 
>cars work with a temperature which is in the middle of the red on the inside 
>thermometer.
>
>I'll tell you what I did, then, if it's not enough, try something else, 
>there are another solutions.
>
>Now, I wanted to lower the temperature of the cooling water in my Rover 2000 
>TC.
>In Italy, in the seventies, the importer, Bepi Koelliker, sold a 
>supplementary electric fan to put in front of the radiator, but I have no 
>room because my car has an air conditioned set by Diavia which needs its own 
>radiator.
>So, in summer 2003 I decided to install an hydraulic vessel( approx. a pair 
>of liters ) in the corner of the engine bay and to connect it to the 
>radiator with two pipes. Temperature on the inside termometer dropped down, 
>and it worked well. I think the mechanic removed also the thermostat, but I 
>can' t be sure.
>
>In every case, the mechanic says that the TC fan is always working, 
>independently from the temperature of the thermostat, so a micro - 
>circulation of cold water from the vessel,  around the termostat, shouldn' t 
>prevent the fan from switching on and working.
>
>He was right and - in my case - it was a good solution.
>
>Try and let me know.
>
>Best regards, gianluca.
>
>-----Messaggio originale-----
>Da: rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com 
>[mailto:rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com] Per conto di Anthony LaVigna
>Inviato: gioved� 20 aprile 2006 3.07
>A: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
>Oggetto: [ROVERNET - UK] Over heating?
>
>
>I am trying to figure out the cause of a high temperature reading on a 1968 
>Rover 2000TC. A friend of mine just purchased a 1968 Rover 2000 TC. Before 
>he got a chance to drive the car, he discovered that the water pump was 
>leaking and had to be replaced. After replacing the water pump, the car's 
>temperature gauge reads in the middle of the red. He removed the thermostat 
>and it still was in the red. Thinking that it was a bad temperature sender, 
>he measured the temperature with an infrared thermometer and it read 93C, 
>which seems to be a number in the middle of the red. We are wondering what 
>is going on.
>
>Does anyone know the expected operating temperature for the car? If the car 
>is running hot, does anyone have any advice on the next steps? Are these 
>cars prone to radiator problems?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Tony
>
>
>
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>[mailto:rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com] Per conto di Kent Kinard
>Inviato: gioved� 20 aprile 2006 13.09
>A: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
>Oggetto: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Rover P6 wheels on EBAY
>
>
>Hi Rudiger,
>These are Magstars, manufactured in the USA by
>Kelsey-Hayes.  Looks like a nice set.
>
>Roverly,
>Kent K.
>
>--- RoverP6 at gmx.de wrote:
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>>
>> # 4632995769
>>
>> "Kelsey Hayes" wheels?
>>
>> Rudiger
>> www.RoverP6.info
>>
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>Message: 2
>Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 07:14:51 -0700
>From: "Ted Holman" <ted_holman at vintagesuzuki.com>
>Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Magstars and Magnum 500's
>To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
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>Steve
>The trim rings appear to fit the wheels almost to well to be generic. They 
>have a cut out for the valve stem that is shaped in a different manner, 
>almost a purposeful cut to accommodate the lip and position of the stem. It 
>might be a trim ring that was produced in that time period that is no longer 
>being made, but I got the impression that they were made for the 
>application. The wheels shown on the cover look like several sets I have on 
>cars which have the standard bolt pattern. The wheels you are referring to 
>were different from latter all steel, chrome wheels?
>Ted
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "S Manwell" <smanwell at sprintmail.com>
>To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
>Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 5:08 AM
>Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Magstars and Magnum 500's
>
>
>> Ted,
>>
>> The 2000TC on the cover of this brochure is wearing Magnum 500's (the 
>> later Rostyles look similar, but have a different offset and a more convex 
>> center):
>>
>> http://clubs.hemmings.com/clubsites/rovercar/nadatc/nada.htm
>>
>> or   http://beerinc.com/rstca/models.html   then click on "NADA 2000 TC"
>>
>> The same brochure features both Magstars and Magnum 500's in the inside 
>> page.  Interestingly, the Magstar photo shows a chrome rim, though 
>> ultimately Rover only offered the black painted rim on Magstars.
>> The trim rings you refer to were not a Rover accessory, but I imagine they 
>> would dress up the black rim nicely.
>>
>> --Steve
>>
>>
>> Ted Holman wrote:
>>
>>> Good morning
>>>
>>> Where can a person see an image of the chrome Magnum500 wheel you 
>>> referred to?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "S Manwell" <smanwell at sprintmail.com>
>>> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 4:17 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Rover P6 wheels on EBAY
>>>
>>>
>>>> Rudiger,
>>>>
>>>> These are Magstar wheels.  They were accessories for North American 
>>>> market P6 Rovers in roughly 1966 through 1968.  They were made for Rover 
>>>> North America by Kelsey Hayes before Rostyle wheels were available from 
>>>> the UK. Kelsey Hayes has been making wheels for many different auto 
>>>> manufacturers since at least the 1920's.  The other well known 
>>>> application for Magstars was the Shelby-modified Ford Mustangs 
>>>> (different rim size and bolt pattern though).
>>>>
>>>> Magstar wheel center caps are available from Shelby Mustang sources, but 
>>>> for some reason they have a cobra head where the viking ship should be.
>>>>
>>>> To answer the bolt pattern question that always comes up next, the Rover 
>>>> Magstars have the same bolt pattern and stud size as the standard P6 
>>>> wheel, but they require unique lug nuts.  The chrome Magnum500 wheel, on 
>>>> the other hand, requires a different hub with different bolt circle and 
>>>> different size lug nuts.  The Magnum 500 was offered at the same time as 
>>>> an option for NADA Rover 2000's and also made by Kelsey Hayes for Rover. 
>>>> The similar-looking chrome Rostyle wheel replaced this wheel as an 
>>>> option sometime in 1968 and, thankfully, it fits the standard P6 hub.
>>>>
>>>> Taking a further step into the obscure, the Magnum500 was also an option 
>>>> on many other American cars from each of the major makes including GM. 
>>>> I speculate that GM would not allow Kelsey Hayes to supply Magnum 500's 
>>>> to Rover with the P6 bolt circle, because many (most?, all?) GM cars 
>>>> used the same pattern.  I don't believe any GM cars used the Magstar 
>>>> wheel, so that may explain why it does use the P6 bolt pattern.
>>>>
>>>> Obscuriously,
>>>>
>>>> Steve Manwell
>>>>
>>>> RoverP6 at gmx.de wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> # 4632995769
>>>>>
>>>>> "Kelsey Hayes" wheels?
>>>>>
>>>>> Rudiger
>>>>> www.RoverP6.info
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 11:46:22 -0400
>From: Glen Wilson <glenwilson at cavtel.net>
>Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Over - heating
>To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
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>Al,
>
>I would recommend checking the radiator first. I had a 1967 TC that
>overheated. Had the radiator professionally cleaned and rodded, and the
>problem went away. Even if there is sludge in the engine, this may get
>you into the normal range without further attention. It makes sense to
>do this first before extra fans and so forth.
>
>Glen
>
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 4
>Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:44:38 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
>From: Joe Haslett <innovplants at earthlink.net>
>Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Re: rovernet Digest, Vol 41, Issue 20
>To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
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>Hi,
>
>I am trying to reach a gentleman located in Hemet(?) California.  Could you please respond off list.
>
>Thank you,
>
>Joe Haslett
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>>Today's Topics:
>>
>>   1. Re:  Rover P6 wheels on EBAY (Kent Kinard)
>>   2. Re:  Rover P6 wheels on EBAY (S Manwell)
>>   3. Re:  Rover P6 wheels on EBAY (S Manwell)
>>   4. Re:  Rover P6 wheels on EBAY (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
>>   5. Re:  Rover P6 wheels on EBAY (Ted Holman)
>>   6. Re:  Rover P6 wheels on EBAY (Ted Holman)
>>   7.  Magstars and Magnum 500's (S Manwell)
>>   8.  Over - heating (Ruotolo Gianluca (DD))
>>
>>
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>Message: 1
>>Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 04:08:52 -0700 (PDT)
>>From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at swbell.net>
>>Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Rover P6 wheels on EBAY
>>To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
>>Message-ID: <20060420110852.72058.qmail at web82210.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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>>
>>Hi Rudiger,
>>These are Magstars, manufactured in the USA by
>>Kelsey-Hayes.  Looks like a nice set.
>>
>>Roverly,
>>Kent K.
>>
>>--- RoverP6 at gmx.de wrote:
>>
>>> 
>>> # 4632995769
>>> 
>>> "Kelsey Hayes" wheels?
>>> 
>>> Rudiger
>>> www.RoverP6.info
>>> 
>>> 
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>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>Message: 2
>>Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 07:17:40 -0400
>>From: S Manwell <smanwell at sprintmail.com>
>>Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Rover P6 wheels on EBAY
>>To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
>>Message-ID: <44476DD4.9010600 at sprintmail.com>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>>Rudiger,
>>
>>These are Magstar wheels.  They were accessories for North American 
>>market P6 Rovers in roughly 1966 through 1968.  They were made for Rover 
>>North America by Kelsey Hayes before Rostyle wheels were available from 
>>the UK.  Kelsey Hayes has been making wheels for many different auto 
>>manufacturers since at least the 1920's.  The other well known 
>>application for Magstars was the Shelby-modified Ford Mustangs 
>>(different rim size and bolt pattern though).
>>
>>Magstar wheel center caps are available from Shelby Mustang sources, but 
>>for some reason they have a cobra head where the viking ship should be.
>>
>>To answer the bolt pattern question that always comes up next, the Rover 
>>Magstars have the same bolt pattern and stud size as the standard P6 
>>wheel, but they require unique lug nuts.  The chrome Magnum500 wheel, on 
>>the other hand, requires a different hub with different bolt circle and 
>>different size lug nuts.  The Magnum 500 was offered at the same time as 
>>an option for NADA Rover 2000's and also made by Kelsey Hayes for 
>>Rover.  The similar-looking chrome Rostyle wheel replaced this wheel as 
>>an option sometime in 1968 and, thankfully, it fits the standard P6 hub.
>>
>>Taking a further step into the obscure, the Magnum500 was also an option 
>>on many other American cars from each of the major makes including GM.  
>>I speculate that GM would not allow Kelsey Hayes to supply Magnum 500's 
>>to Rover with the P6 bolt circle, because many (most?, all?) GM cars 
>>used the same pattern.  I don't believe any GM cars used the Magstar 
>>wheel, so that may explain why it does use the P6 bolt pattern.
>>
>>Obscuriously,
>>
>>Steve Manwell
>>
>>RoverP6 at gmx.de wrote:
>>
>>># 4632995769
>>>
>>>"Kelsey Hayes" wheels?
>>>
>>>Rudiger
>>>www.RoverP6.info
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>Message: 3
>>Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 07:20:17 -0400
>>From: S Manwell <smanwell at sprintmail.com>
>>Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Rover P6 wheels on EBAY
>>To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
>>Message-ID: <44476E71.70701 at sprintmail.com>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>>Morning Kent,
>>
>>Your succinct answer beat my verbose one to the punch.
>>
>>--Steve
>>
>>Kent Kinard wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Rudiger,
>>>These are Magstars, manufactured in the USA by
>>>Kelsey-Hayes.  Looks like a nice set.
>>>
>>>Roverly,
>>>Kent K.
>>>
>>>--- RoverP6 at gmx.de wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>># 4632995769
>>>>
>>>>"Kelsey Hayes" wheels?
>>>>
>>>>Rudiger
>>>>www.RoverP6.info
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>    
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>  
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>------------------------------
>>
>>Message: 4
>>Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:25:34 +0200
>>From: <RoverP6 at gmx.de>
>>Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Rover P6 wheels on EBAY
>>To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
>>Message-ID: <01c601c6646d$a8336070$6502a8c0 at p6>
>>Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>>
>>Thanks for replying, Kent
>>
>>Rudiger
>>www.RoverP6.info
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
>>Von: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at swbell.net>
>>An: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
>>Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. April 2006 13:08
>>Betreff: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Rover P6 wheels on EBAY
>>
>>
>>> Hi Rudiger,
>>> These are Magstars, manufactured in the USA by
>>> Kelsey-Hayes.  Looks like a nice set.
>>>
>>> Roverly,
>>> Kent K.
>>>
>>> --- RoverP6 at gmx.de wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> > # 4632995769
>>> >
>>> > "Kelsey Hayes" wheels?
>>> >
>>> > Rudiger
>>> > www.RoverP6.info
>>> >
>>> >
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>>
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>>
>>Message: 5
>>Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 04:45:36 -0700
>>From: "Ted Holman" <ted_holman at vintagesuzuki.com>
>>Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Rover P6 wheels on EBAY
>>To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
>>Message-ID: <001d01c6646f$f2866800$6663a8c0 at owner6kqvxlfnt>
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>>Just to add the puzzle, this is my sale on eBay. I saw Kelsey Hayes stamped 
>>on the back side when I was listing them and added it to the information. I 
>>cleaned up another set and with the trim rings, they look great.
>>Ted
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: <RoverP6 at gmx.de>
>>To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
>>Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 4:25 AM
>>Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Rover P6 wheels on EBAY
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for replying, Kent
>>>
>>> Rudiger
>>> www.RoverP6.info
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at swbell.net>
>>> An: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. April 2006 13:08
>>> Betreff: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Rover P6 wheels on EBAY
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Rudiger,
>>>> These are Magstars, manufactured in the USA by
>>>> Kelsey-Hayes.  Looks like a nice set.
>>>>
>>>> Roverly,
>>>> Kent K.
>>>>
>>>> --- RoverP6 at gmx.de wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > # 4632995769
>>>> >
>>>> > "Kelsey Hayes" wheels?
>>>> >
>>>> > Rudiger
>>>> > www.RoverP6.info
>>>> >
>>>> >
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>>Message: 6
>>Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 04:55:48 -0700
>>From: "Ted Holman" <ted_holman at vintagesuzuki.com>
>>Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Rover P6 wheels on EBAY
>>To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
>>Message-ID: <004301c66471$5d2ead60$6663a8c0 at owner6kqvxlfnt>
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>>Good morning
>>
>>Where can a person see an image of the chrome Magnum500 wheel you referred 
>>to?
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "S Manwell" <smanwell at sprintmail.com>
>>To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
>>Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 4:17 AM
>>Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Rover P6 wheels on EBAY
>>
>>
>>> Rudiger,
>>>
>>> These are Magstar wheels.  They were accessories for North American market 
>>> P6 Rovers in roughly 1966 through 1968.  They were made for Rover North 
>>> America by Kelsey Hayes before Rostyle wheels were available from the UK. 
>>> Kelsey Hayes has been making wheels for many different auto manufacturers 
>>> since at least the 1920's.  The other well known application for Magstars 
>>> was the Shelby-modified Ford Mustangs (different rim size and bolt pattern 
>>> though).
>>>
>>> Magstar wheel center caps are available from Shelby Mustang sources, but 
>>> for some reason they have a cobra head where the viking ship should be.
>>>
>>> To answer the bolt pattern question that always comes up next, the Rover 
>>> Magstars have the same bolt pattern and stud size as the standard P6 
>>> wheel, but they require unique lug nuts.  The chrome Magnum500 wheel, on 
>>> the other hand, requires a different hub with different bolt circle and 
>>> different size lug nuts.  The Magnum 500 was offered at the same time as 
>>> an option for NADA Rover 2000's and also made by Kelsey Hayes for Rover. 
>>> The similar-looking chrome Rostyle wheel replaced this wheel as an option 
>>> sometime in 1968 and, thankfully, it fits the standard P6 hub.
>>>
>>> Taking a further step into the obscure, the Magnum500 was also an option 
>>> on many other American cars from each of the major makes including GM.  I 
>>> speculate that GM would not allow Kelsey Hayes to supply Magnum 500's to 
>>> Rover with the P6 bolt circle, because many (most?, all?) GM cars used the 
>>> same pattern.  I don't believe any GM cars used the Magstar wheel, so that 
>>> may explain why it does use the P6 bolt pattern.
>>>
>>> Obscuriously,
>>>
>>> Steve Manwell
>>>
>>> RoverP6 at gmx.de wrote:
>>>
>>>># 4632995769
>>>>
>>>>"Kelsey Hayes" wheels?
>>>>
>>>>Rudiger
>>>>www.RoverP6.info
>>>>
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>>Message: 7
>>Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:08:06 -0400
>>From: S Manwell <smanwell at sprintmail.com>
>>Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Magstars and Magnum 500's
>>To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
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>>Ted,
>>
>>The 2000TC on the cover of this brochure is wearing Magnum 500's (the 
>>later Rostyles look similar, but have a different offset and a more 
>>convex center):
>>
>>http://clubs.hemmings.com/clubsites/rovercar/nadatc/nada.htm
>>
>>or   http://beerinc.com/rstca/models.html   then click on "NADA 2000 TC"
>>
>>The same brochure features both Magstars and Magnum 500's in the inside 
>>page.  Interestingly, the Magstar photo shows a chrome rim, though 
>>ultimately Rover only offered the black painted rim on Magstars. 
>>
>>The trim rings you refer to were not a Rover accessory, but I imagine 
>>they would dress up the black rim nicely.
>>
>>--Steve
>>
>>
>>Ted Holman wrote:
>>
>>> Good morning
>>>
>>> Where can a person see an image of the chrome Magnum500 wheel you 
>>> referred to?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "S Manwell" <smanwell at sprintmail.com>
>>> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 4:17 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Rover P6 wheels on EBAY
>>>
>>>
>>>> Rudiger,
>>>>
>>>> These are Magstar wheels.  They were accessories for North American 
>>>> market P6 Rovers in roughly 1966 through 1968.  They were made for 
>>>> Rover North America by Kelsey Hayes before Rostyle wheels were 
>>>> available from the UK. Kelsey Hayes has been making wheels for many 
>>>> different auto manufacturers since at least the 1920's.  The other 
>>>> well known application for Magstars was the Shelby-modified Ford 
>>>> Mustangs (different rim size and bolt pattern though).
>>>>
>>>> Magstar wheel center caps are available from Shelby Mustang sources, 
>>>> but for some reason they have a cobra head where the viking ship 
>>>> should be.
>>>>
>>>> To answer the bolt pattern question that always comes up next, the 
>>>> Rover Magstars have the same bolt pattern and stud size as the 
>>>> standard P6 wheel, but they require unique lug nuts.  The chrome 
>>>> Magnum500 wheel, on the other hand, requires a different hub with 
>>>> different bolt circle and different size lug nuts.  The Magnum 500 
>>>> was offered at the same time as an option for NADA Rover 2000's and 
>>>> also made by Kelsey Hayes for Rover. The similar-looking chrome 
>>>> Rostyle wheel replaced this wheel as an option sometime in 1968 and, 
>>>> thankfully, it fits the standard P6 hub.
>>>>
>>>> Taking a further step into the obscure, the Magnum500 was also an 
>>>> option on many other American cars from each of the major makes 
>>>> including GM.  I speculate that GM would not allow Kelsey Hayes to 
>>>> supply Magnum 500's to Rover with the P6 bolt circle, because many 
>>>> (most?, all?) GM cars used the same pattern.  I don't believe any GM 
>>>> cars used the Magstar wheel, so that may explain why it does use the 
>>>> P6 bolt pattern.
>>>>
>>>> Obscuriously,
>>>>
>>>> Steve Manwell
>>>>
>>>> RoverP6 at gmx.de wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> # 4632995769
>>>>>
>>>>> "Kelsey Hayes" wheels?
>>>>>
>>>>> Rudiger
>>>>> www.RoverP6.info
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>Message: 8
>>Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 14:31:51 +0200
>>From: "Ruotolo Gianluca \(DD\)" <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.it>
>>Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Over - heating
>>To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
>>Message-ID:
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>>
>>In my opinion 93 C is a high temperature for a normal use, but, often, these cars work with a temperature which is in the middle of the red on the inside thermometer.
>>
>>I'll tell you what I did, then, if it's not enough, try something else, there are another solutions.
>>
>>Now, I wanted to lower the temperature of the cooling water in my Rover 2000 TC. 
>>In Italy, in the seventies, the importer, Bepi Koelliker, sold a supplementary electric fan to put in front of the radiator, but I have no room because my car has an air conditioned set by Diavia which needs its own radiator. 
>>So, in summer 2003 I decided to install an hydraulic vessel( approx. a pair of liters ) in the corner of the engine bay and to connect it to the radiator with two pipes. Temperature on the inside termometer dropped down, and it worked well. I think the mechanic removed also the thermostat, but I can' t be sure.
>>
>>In every case, the mechanic says that the TC fan is always working, independently from the temperature of the thermostat, so a micro - circulation of cold water from the vessel,  around the termostat, shouldn' t prevent the fan from switching on and working. 
>>
>>He was right and - in my case - it was a good solution.
>>
>>Try and let me know.
>>
>>Best regards, gianluca.
>>
>>-----Messaggio originale-----
>>Da: rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com [mailto:rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com] Per conto di Anthony LaVigna
>>Inviato: gioved� 20 aprile 2006 3.07
>>A: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
>>Oggetto: [ROVERNET - UK] Over heating?
>>
>>
>>I am trying to figure out the cause of a high temperature reading on a 1968 Rover 2000TC. A friend of mine just purchased a 1968 Rover 2000 TC. Before he got a chance to drive the car, he discovered that the water pump was leaking and had to be replaced. After replacing the water pump, the car's temperature gauge reads in the middle of the red. He removed the thermostat and it still was in the red. Thinking that it was a bad temperature sender, he measured the temperature with an infrared thermometer and it read 93C, which seems to be a number in the middle of the red. We are wondering what is going on.
>>
>>Does anyone know the expected operating temperature for the car? If the car is running hot, does anyone have any advice on the next steps? Are these cars prone to radiator problems?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Tony
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>Inviato: gioved� 20 aprile 2006 13.09
>>A: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
>>Oggetto: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Rover P6 wheels on EBAY
>>
>>
>>Hi Rudiger,
>>These are Magstars, manufactured in the USA by
>>Kelsey-Hayes.  Looks like a nice set.
>>
>>Roverly,
>>Kent K.
>>
>>--- RoverP6 at gmx.de wrote:
>>
>>> 
>>> # 4632995769
>>> 
>>> "Kelsey Hayes" wheels?
>>> 
>>> Rudiger
>>> www.RoverP6.info
>>> 
>>> 
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