[ROVERNET - UK] Re: rovernet Digest, Vol 26, Issue 18

Mon Jan 10 18:00:02 GMT 2005

By any remote chance, are the floats in the carbs leaking, thus losing 
buoyancy?  You could easily check them by immersing briefly in hot water and 
watching for bubbles.  If leaking, open one hole after marking the others 
with pins, and reseal with solder after emptying them.  That will get you by 
until you replace them with new ones.......Just a guess.......Ian Potts
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>   1.  crook carbys (rogerdm at iprimus.com.au)
>   2. Re:  crook carbys (Alan Gale)
>   3.  crook carbys (rover-rob at xtra.co.nz)
>   4. Re:  crook carbys (Mike Shaddick)
>   5. Re:  crook carbys (Barry Riseley)
>   6. Re:  crook carbys (Slatskars)
>   7. Re:  crook carbys (Slatskars)
>   8.  Volstang (sspmilr at netzero.net)
>   9. Re:  Oil filter for P5 3 litre (peter king)
>  10. RE:  Volstang (Craig Freeman)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 04:18:18 -0800
> From: rogerdm at iprimus.com.au
> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] crook carbys
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> Hi all
>
> The carbys on my 1974 3500S are overflowing. I have had this problem 
> before
> and have had the carbys overhauled by a specialist. The return of symptoms
> include a strong petrol smell as fuel spills out the overflow pipes during
> running but especially at idle, traffic lights etc. Variable idle speed,
> poor take off power from low revs but normal at high revs. I assume I have
> contaminants in my fuel tank which are spoiling the sealing of the fuel 
> float
> seats in the carbys. I have fitted a new fuel filter but perhaps something
> (water?) is getting past.
>
> I assume I need to take off the carbys and clean them out, replace the 
> filter
> and clean the tank.
>
> The experience of my fellow netters would be appreciated in this urgent 
> job.
> For example can compressed air be used to blow dirt from the seats thereby
> avoiding removing the carbys until a convenient weekend to effect proper
> repairs. What is the best way of cleaning the fuel tank of loose diamonds,
> gold coins and possibly rust/dirt/water?
>
> Advice appreciated as I suspect I am at risk of going up on flames
>
> Roger
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:39:15 +1100
> From: Alan Gale <agale at ihug.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] crook carbys
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
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> Rodger
> 1) Where are you?  If in Melbourne, go visit Wilson Carburettors in
> Airport West and speak to John Cheal.  He is an expert.  9330 3216
> 2) how long between overhaul and symptom return?
> 3) sounds like jets are not seating properly for some reason and
> therefore they are overflowing.
> 4) compressed air is a bit rough ...
> 5) when was the petrol tank last drained (ie fuel outlet removed and all
> inside allowed to drain and then dry?) If a long time then perhaps
> something has got into the float bowl and caused the inlet jet not to
> seat properly ... but if fuel filter is there, this is unlikely. It
> would be a pretty tough contaminant to eat at the seat.
>
> Cannot think of any solution other than a clean out, which is not what
> you wanted to hear.  perhaps others may know more than I.
> (I would have gone to John rather than tried to sort it myself).
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:15:11 +1300
> From: <rover-rob at xtra.co.nz>
> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] crook carbys
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> Hi,
> Overflowing Carbs can be caused by the floats "sinking" causing the excess 
> fuel to overflow out of the carbs. Check whether the floats are plastic or 
> brass and are leaking because of a split or pin hole.
> Regards, Rob
> Waikato Rover Car Club
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:24:56 +1100
> From: Mike Shaddick <mikshdik at ozemail.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] crook carbys
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>>Hi all
>>
>>The carbys on my 1974 3500S are overflowing. I have had this problem 
>>before
>>and have had the carbys overhauled by a specialist. The return of symptoms
>>include a strong petrol smell as fuel spills out the overflow pipes during
>>running but especially at idle, traffic lights etc. Variable idle speed,
>>poor take off power from low revs but normal at high revs. I assume I have
>>contaminants in my fuel tank which are spoiling the sealing of the fuel 
>>float
>>seats in the carbys. I have fitted a new fuel filter but perhaps something
>>(water?) is getting past.
>>
> When cleaning out the floats and seats, it may be worth your while to
> check that the needles are firmly in place and have not dropped.
>
> Wink Martindale
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:11:49 +1100
> From: Barry Riseley <barry-riseley at trump.net.au>
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] crook carbys
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com,rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
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> Hello Everyone,
> I rather suspect that the SU Caries we are dealing with in this thread are
> really of much later type/specification than the ones I am used to dealing
> with.
>
> For what it is worth though, I have experienced frustrating flooding of 
> "H"
> type SU's despite what I had thought to be thorough replacement and
> adjustments "in the float bowl.
>
> What I have found is that in these earlier type carbies, if there is
> sideways movement on the needle actuating lever where it hinges onto the
> float bowl cover, then it is possible for this lever to "stick.
>
> Similarly, if this lever binds on the two little "posts" which hold the
> lever pin, then the lever can bind.
>
> The cure is to carefully adjust (bend) the two little "flaps" on the hinge
> end of the lever, so that there is just clearance to allow free movement,
> without sideways play.
>
> I have a 1928 Austin Seven which has had an SU fitted, and until Boxing
> Day, had this exact problem.
>
> But, like I said at the outset, the later carbies probably have different
> float construction.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Barry R.
> Tasmania
>
>
> At 09:24 AM 10/01/2005, Mike Shaddick wrote:
>
>> >Hi all
>> >
>> >The carbys on my 1974 3500S are overflowing. I have had this problem 
>> >before
>> >and have had the carbys overhauled by a specialist. The return of 
>> >symptoms
>> >include a strong petrol smell as fuel spills out the overflow pipes 
>> >during
>> >running but especially at idle, traffic lights etc. Variable idle speed,
>> >poor take off power from low revs but normal at high revs. I assume I 
>> >have
>> >contaminants in my fuel tank which are spoiling the sealing of the fuel
>> float
>> >seats in the carbys. I have fitted a new fuel filter but perhaps 
>> >something
>> >(water?) is getting past.
>> >
>>  When cleaning out the floats and seats, it may be worth your while to
>>check that the needles are firmly in place and have not dropped.
>>
>>Wink Martindale
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:07:56 -0800
> From: "Slatskars" <slatskars at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] crook carbys
> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
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> Sounds very much like float needles sticking. Sometimes just cleaning will
> do the job, but not always. I have had very good luck with "Grosse Jets"
> available from Moss. I personally like them, but some folks do not. I had 
> a
> sticking needle in a "Factory New" H type for an MGTF that was cured
> instantly by changing it to Grosse Jets.
>
> Slats
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> From: <rogerdm at iprimus.com.au>
> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 4:18 AM
> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] crook carbys
>
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> The carbys on my 1974 3500S are overflowing. I have had this problem
>> before
>> and have had the carbys overhauled by a specialist. The return of 
>> symptoms
>> include a strong petrol smell as fuel spills out the overflow pipes 
>> during
>> running but especially at idle, traffic lights etc. Variable idle speed,
>> poor take off power from low revs but normal at high revs. I assume I 
>> have
>> contaminants in my fuel tank which are spoiling the sealing of the fuel
>> float
>> seats in the carbys. I have fitted a new fuel filter but perhaps 
>> something
>> (water?) is getting past.
>>
>> I assume I need to take off the carbys and clean them out, replace the
>> filter
>> and clean the tank.
>>
>> The experience of my fellow netters would be appreciated in this urgent
>> job.
>> For example can compressed air be used to blow dirt from the seats 
>> thereby
>> avoiding removing the carbys until a convenient weekend to effect proper
>> repairs. What is the best way of cleaning the fuel tank of loose 
>> diamonds,
>> gold coins and possibly rust/dirt/water?
>>
>> Advice appreciated as I suspect I am at risk of going up on flames
>>
>> Roger
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:26:43 -0800
> From: "Slatskars" <slatskars at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] crook carbys
> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
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> After sending the previous message regarding Grosse Jets, I remembered 
> that
> on many H types there is a spring loaded pin sticking up out off the top 
> of
> the float chamber cover. Tapping that pin will sometimes clear a bit of
> foreign material from the needle seat. This causes the float to bounce up
> and down.
>
> Have you determined that both carbs are sticking or just one. Isolating 
> the
> problem may lead you to the source.
>
> Slats
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <rogerdm at iprimus.com.au>
> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 4:18 AM
> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] crook carbys
>
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> The carbys on my 1974 3500S are overflowing. I have had this problem
>> before
>> and have had the carbys overhauled by a specialist. The return of 
>> symptoms
>> include a strong petrol smell as fuel spills out the overflow pipes 
>> during
>> running but especially at idle, traffic lights etc. Variable idle speed,
>> poor take off power from low revs but normal at high revs. I assume I 
>> have
>> contaminants in my fuel tank which are spoiling the sealing of the fuel
>> float
>> seats in the carbys. I have fitted a new fuel filter but perhaps 
>> something
>> (water?) is getting past.
>>
>> I assume I need to take off the carbys and clean them out, replace the
>> filter
>> and clean the tank.
>>
>> The experience of my fellow netters would be appreciated in this urgent
>> job.
>> For example can compressed air be used to blow dirt from the seats 
>> thereby
>> avoiding removing the carbys until a convenient weekend to effect proper
>> repairs. What is the best way of cleaning the fuel tank of loose 
>> diamonds,
>> gold coins and possibly rust/dirt/water?
>>
>> Advice appreciated as I suspect I am at risk of going up on flames
>>
>> Roger
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:40:07 GMT
> From: "sspmilr at netzero.net" <sspmilr at netzero.net>
> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Volstang
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> Message-ID: <20050109.184101.9032.66330 at webmail03.lax.untd.com>
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>
> Hi Roverists:
>
> Does anyone know what a "Volstang" car is?
>
> Peter Miller
> Port Orchard, Wa.
> USA
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:45:57 -0500
> From: peter king <peter at king-co.com>
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Oil filter for P5 3 litre
> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
> Message-ID: <BE0764A5.2891%peter at king-co.com>
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> One more P5 oil filter for the list: Fram CH853PL
>
> -Peter K
>
>
>
>> From: iudkuy wcygiohs <iudkuy at yahoo.com>
>> Reply-To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
>> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 18:10:09 -0800 (PST)
>> To: "Scott's Old Auto Rubber" <scottsoldautorubber at bigpond.com.au>,
>> rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
>> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Oil filter for P5 3 litre
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> My mistake. I looked at your list on your site and
>> must have missed it. Next time.
>>
>> What does the Z1 refer to?
>>
>> Peter B
>>
>>
>> --- Scott's Old Auto Rubber
>> <scottsoldautorubber at bigpond.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> We have these in stock for $9.00 ea + freight.
>>> Thankyou,
>>> Scott.
>>> www.scottsoldautorubber.com.au
>>> Automotive Rubber and Seals for Many Makes and
>>> Models,
>>> Melbourne,  Australia.
>>> Phone and Fax: - 61- 3 - 9563 3023
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>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Craig Freeman"
>>> <CraigFreeman at techtonics.co.nz>
>>> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, 7 January 2005 10:15 AM
>>> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Oil filter for P5 3 litre
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to source an oil filter for my 1963 P5
>>> 3 litre MkII - does
>>> anyone have a cross reference for a fram filter or
>>> the like?
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully I can then pop into the local super
>>> cheap auto parts store and
>>> buy something off the shelf.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Craig Freeman
>>>> Wellington
>>>> New Zealand
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:57:41 +1300
> From: "Craig Freeman" <CraigFreeman at techtonics.co.nz>
> Subject: RE: [ROVERNET - UK] Volstang
> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
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> Mustang powered Volvo?
>
> There are a few pictures on the web of old Volvos people have dropped 
> Mustang V8's into, just do a Google search on Volstang.
>
> Cheers
>
> Craig Freeman
> NZ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sspmilr at netzero.net [mailto:sspmilr at netzero.net]
> Sent: Monday, 10 January 2005 3:40 p.m.
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Volstang
>
>
>
> Hi Roverists:
>
> Does anyone know what a "Volstang" car is?
>
> Peter Miller
> Port Orchard, Wa.
> USA
>
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